Refueling A Union Pacific Eastbound Stack Train At Thompsonville Rd Perry Ks
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Hello everyone, I ended up getting a great catch today. Everyone has been asking me about how often they refuel at Thompsonville Rd in Perry Ks. I ended up getting chatter on my radio about refueling, and I knew where they were going, so I was able to get there before they did.i hope you all enjoy this video. Thank you for watching, and always God bless.
Nice little contract that guy has with the RR. Also, the timing of the deceleration was great!
Yes, it was, and thank you
At a steel mill I use to work at, the fuel truck (similar to that one) called a locomotive to come on the track next to the road. It was on the 3rd track from the road. Our new superintendent heard this and told the truck driver to pull the hose across 2 tracks to fuel the locomotive. The driver tried to explain, that the shoulder was to soft as he would have to park on the shoulder for the hose to reach. He was told, “do as you’re told or go home”! The driver did as he was told, and the right side of the truck sank, almost going over except for the large step on the back of the truck. He was able to fuel that locomotive, but the yardmaster had to call every locomotive in the area, to stop what they were doing, and come to the fuel truck, so the fuel truck could be emptied. I believe it took over 2 hours, for the truck to be emptied and pulled out. This is what happens when management is staffed by who you know, not what you know. The superintendent use to be a scaleman, who would sleep all the time, whose Mom worked in the main office.
Why was this superintendent bossing someone who wasn't his employee?
Normally with CSX we can’t pull the hose across a live track unless it’s blocked with the derailer. There is a fueling spur that is usually used. I’ve sat for hours waiting to fuel a power unit that I could throw a rock at to be moved over to me.
Same problem with the Boeing Max planes. Same problem in the EPO , European Patent Office: One Greek became vice-president and a couple of months later there were lots of Greek principal-directors and directors. Although 31 countries are members of the EPO.
@@utubewatcher806 Railroad, truck drivers, general laborers, equipment operators, track gang, locomotive’s shop, Heavy equipment shops all fell under this superintendent.
@@blauer25510ldm
I thought I've seen some big trains before but this is next level. Super cool. I never gave remote refueling a thought before.
Thank you
Wow, that was pretty cool! Thats a nice contract for the trucking company. The logo on the truck was epic
Thank you. I like the logo it so cool
Dealing with railroads sucks, a whole lot of hurry up and wait. We’ve had to switch drivers because they ran out of hours waiting for locomotives to show up or they call and tell you they are sitting at a location 20 miles away in the woods down a two track.
Great Video, Interesting to see a refuel in the country, thanks for sharing
Thank you. I'm glad you like it
Good video , could have better if you could have gotten closer to the fuel truck and away from grade crossing bell.
@mikewild4504 Yeah, if I could get around better. I get a round with a cane.
That is a very long train and only three engines. Great video.
Yes, it was, and thank you
thank you for sharing he did not waste time filling and holding the train up any longer than neccessary
He was fast
OUTSTANDING! 👍 That was a very long train. You have a new subscriber.
Thank you
That's what the RR'S CALL A SPLASH AND DASH@@GreyBeardTrains
Very cool. I've never seen that before. What a huge train.
Thank you, and yes it was
Great video. You should invest in a tripod for stability. I kept having to adjust my frame to keep a visual on the refueling guy. I often wondered where and how refueling took place, so thanks for the education.
Nice recording. It was very interesting to hear the UP EMD SD70ACe-t4 P6AH. I have never heard a 4-cycle engine in an EMD locomotive. Well there was once a UP SD90MAC with the H engine in it on Norfork Southern rails in South Carolina. It sounds like a quieter version of the GE-Wabtec FDL-16. I believe that the engine installed in the SD70ACe-t4 locomotives is sn evolution of that prototype. It would've been great if Progress Rail-EMD had kept trying to perfect the 90MAC H engine by field testing it on several class ones as demonstration models. They wouldn't have been caught by surprise at Tier4.
Thank you for the information, and I heard Union Pacific is working on some electric powered locomotives
Great video. Never saw motive power fueled before in the field...vandalized loco a rarity too...😮
Thank u
I see this all the time at a train station in Oshawa Canada. GO Transit passenger trains are fueled up at the end of line, before leaving on their return trips.
How cool to have a train meet while refueling! I am not sure why the telephone poles are bothering so many viewers. Life has poles in the way all through it. And lots of people depend on the power from the poles. And as the DPUs went past, we could see the smoke coming from the stack of the second locomotive.
Thank you
That was a great catch Grey Beard! I am new at this and have not seen this happening in Florida . . .yet!
Thank you so much. It would be nice if you could catch it sometime.
At 1st glance I thought only one locomotive I thought to myself dang !! but then when you said there was mids. I knew it was a long train
It was a long train
Pretty cool thanks for sharing this
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it
Prolly not too much. My guesstimation is 500gal for each loco. Remember refueling like this costs extra. The DPUs just need enough to make it to the next yard that has servicing. I am up in Gothenburg, NE (also UPRR - 43miles east of Bailey yard at North Platte, NE), so I have no idea where that would be in KS.
Been to Baily yard. Awesome place.
Great Video about Refueling. Thanks for filming and sharing. I enjoy listening to you people having your scanners programed into the Rail-Road Frequenies and you get tolisten to some of their conversaions and other rail road operational activities.
By the way, one of these days I want to install the Railroad fequencies into my Realistic Tandy Radio Shack PRO-2022 Scanner. Can anybody tell me (or list for me), what Frequencies the Railroads use especially in my area. I've tried to look them up but only get confused. There seems to be a lot of them.
Besides the main lines here in my area - there is also the local railroad named the "Eastern Idaho Rail Road" that just serves the local towns and our local industries of the Mini-Cassia area of Cassia and Minidoka counties as well as the Twin Falls county area.
You can Google railroad frequencies, and you can see what is around you . Thank you so much.
Very cool Grey beard!!!! thank you!
Thank you so much
My younger brother has a brother-in-law who owns an Oil Company with his Dad here in St. Louis. He has Fueled Amtrak Units in and around (within 35mi.) of STL.
Nice. I would like to see that
super great video ❤❤😍😍
Thank you
Question guys
Which louder the train horn or the ship horn ? Who’ve heard both
Hard to say, I think. Noise travels farther across an even water surface, I think. I also guess that the sound is not the same. Trains seem to have a horn signalling at higher and multiple frequencies, whereas ship horn mostly have a deeper sound.
Anyway, in both cases, the noise is really thrilling. And rightfully so. It just says: "You better stay out of my way!"
@@frankyboy1131
Thank you so much for the well described explanation 🌼🌸
That was cool my man! Glad I found your channel. I just subscribed.
I'm so glad you like it. Thank you
I love the non-stop bell!
I bet I wish it would stop like some of them out there
Nice catch ... UP3077 an EMD SD70ACe-T4
That fuel truck is from Capital City Oil in Topeka Kansas
The fuel truck sounded great, sounds powerful.
The pink containers are new to me, I have never seen those before.
The truck does have a great sound to it, and they have been around for so time
Ocean Network Express, combo of 3 companies
Cool engine awe
Horn to...My birthday is next Tuesday February 27. Ill be 35. Wonder what kind of awesome trains you'll have on my birthday. From Newberry SC
I will have to give you a big shout-out, and thank you
Thanks man it's pretty sweet
Kudos to the Engineer knows when to stop
He’s communicating with the fuel guy and he’s looking the car number and he is updating the engineer when to start to slow down and stop.
I doubt the contracted fuel guy has his channel. Great stop though !
@@theringer13Communicating by Work Cell #. This is a Regular Fuel Stop for this Train and Crew.
@@theringer13yes he does
Truck line I worked for years ago, they had a small terminal just north of Bakersfield, California. On 2-3 occasions a fuel truck would be there fueling the UP locomotive.
Are the trucks on a locomotive free wheeling, or are they locked if there is no power? I never questioned this before, but what would happen if a DPU ran out of fuel, and quit? Would the train continue to move? I have been a rail fan for 77 years, and about 6 months ago discovered the train videos on UA-cam. I am in hog heaven now. I will be subscribing as soon as I get done typing. 🥰
I believe they call it dead power and with all that weight. It would be harder to pull with just one locomotive.
The loco can be put in "Box Cart Mode" where it behaves as a box car.
Wow, now I know how trains refuel!
It's cool to watch
Not the normal way to do it but generally keeps the train moving but costs more and saves the time of finding other locos to take their place or cutting the DPU's out, refueling them then moving back to the consist.
Yea, used to see that all the time at the power plant, and NS does it in Danville.
Nice
At Dundee yard or in town at the train station?
Curious, funny situation. You can do that in the middle of nowhere. Despite the long stop, not a single car waiting at the blocked level crossing.
I suppose the locos have a central reservoir accessible from both sides, don't they? Otherwise, refuelling across the other track from the other side might have been a problem, right?
They are in the country, and that's why there are no cars
Am from trinadad so cool never saw such long train
The wooden poles made a nice frame for counting cars. My count was 186 intermodal cars (did not double check, not guaranteed) each with 4 axles. There were 3 locomotives with 6 axles each. 762 axles for the defect detector. There were 131 intermodals in front of the DPUs, and 55 behind them. Using an estimate of 22 to 25 feet for each intermodal flatbed gives an estimated length of 17k to 19k feet, or 3.2 to 3.5 miles total train length. That's a big one. Can you imagine it negotiating the horseshoe curve? Evidently there have been trains of 5 miles total length in the US - would not be surprised if that was in Kansas or some other flat terrain. On the curves, it would put a lot of wear on the wheels and rails - might need multiple DPUs in at least two places. Can they operate with more than one DPU section (a 3-part train, or more?)
Yeah, tell me about it. That's a lot of cars and wheels. I still wanna go to Horseshoe Curve to make some cool videos.
Watching from the UK, amazing
Did this for US Refueling outta Pittsburgh PA. Chased a Loram grinder train . Meet alot of great people.
So cool. I bet you did meet a lot of nice people.I tell you it's fun to watch
I always thought trains were refueled at yards and depots. Not in the middle of nowhere from a truck. This makes sense though since the vast majority of the Midwest is rural.
Right, but there always on the move
Wow, a long train .thanks
Yes, it was, and im glad you enjoyed it
Novel ! This is the first time that I've seen this. Aarre Peltomaa of Mississauga, Ontario
Hope you liked it
I dont know if i counted right but was that only 3 locos total pulling that. Now that's horsepower bro....
Yes
Awesome man.
Thank you so much
I'm from AUS. To the best of my knowledge out cross-country intramodals are never this big. Just how long are the BIG containers shown?? Thanks
This one was 188 cars and 3 locomotives
Very cool intro!
FUN FACT!!
THE SD-45 LOCOMOTIVE WITH THE MECHANICAL FUEL INJECTORS WOULD CONSUME 180 GALLONS OF FUEL PER HOUR AT FULL LOAD, THROTTLE NOTCH 8!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
👍👍
That looked like a couple of DPUs to me
Yes
Cool video
Subbed! cool share.
Thank you
@@GreyBeardTrains ;)
Good place to build the hyperloop train to go through this area
Interesting video whats the deal with a scanner in terms of use if stopped By Law Enforcement
How log was that train???
188 cars and 3 Locomotives.
My Grandfather used to meet warships in the middle of the Pacific ocean to refuel them.
USS Passumpsic AO-107
So cool
Did the same in early 70s on USS Wichita (AOR-1) but unlike the train we were moving at 12 knots all the while. Call underway replenishment (UNREP)
Dang that’s a long train 🚂 😊
Yes, it was
How did the engineer know exactly when to stop? How long was this train? Is it against the rules to get up close? Thanks for posting.
The truck driver communicated to the engineers when to stop.There were over 180 cars, and I did not want to get into trouble.Thank you
I'm surprised they refuel at that location rather than in the yard in N. Topeka.
All the trans do not go through the yard.
Curious why you said they're not DPU'S? Any units middle or end of the train are distributed power.
Exactly right, that's what I said too...
Unless they are just dragging some locomotives around to relocate them (idle.) For such a long, long train, it seems like only 3 locomotives is a little skimpy (one lead and two DPUs.) Maybe some of those intermodals are empty boxes. It helps to be in such flat terrain. That amount of motive power would huff and puff with a super long train on any kind of grade.
Gotta say loving the telegraph pole there
Good spot to hop on or off the train!
Yes
But UP and other RR will check the train at certain places
That's really so backwards.
I drive trains on transcontinental routes across Australia. We, and one other of the big 3 have a wagon directly behind the locomotives that automatically, keep the fuel up to the locomotives.
The In Line Fuel (ILF) wagon is 20m, fitted with two 20' ISO tanks that hold 24m3 of diesel. There is also a pump unit on the ILF wagon that is connected to the loco's with a MR air supply, communication with the loco's from a MU cable, and of course the fuel hose. All the locomotives in the consist have interconnecting fuel hoses between them.
When the fuel in the locomotive tanks drops to a predetermined level, a signal via the MU jumper is sent back to the pump unit and it supplies fuel to that locomotive's fuel tank.
For a brief period in 2012 when we had to run ore trains to the port of Darwin, as a ECP-WDP train, the remote loco's also had an ILF wagon with them. The ore trains we're running now are still ECP-WDP, however the remote unit is only idling to the mine loading point, so it has sufficient fuel to be used on the return with the loaded train. The lead loco's are of course powering the empty train to the loading point, so they run with an ILF wagon.
Whilst the IFL works automatically in primary mode, there is a secondary mode where the system can be manually used, and also a tertiary mode where tank valves ca be opened up and fuel supplied to the locomotives via gravity.
With the system working in auto mode, there is no time lost for fuelling.
That's so cool. I would like to see that
@@GreyBeardTrains
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It's not much to see in operation, it just pumps and keeps the fuel up.
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Another example in better light. It's only the loco's in front of the ILF wagon that are getting fuel, the two behind the van are being hauled dead.
That is so smart
Nice heritage units
I like that very interesting
Thank you so much
A locomotive holds about 4000 gallons of diesel fuel
Wow, thank you
It surprised me that with a grade crossing with arms that it was not a paved road.
Man that's a long train is that usual there?
Yes it was
Did someone screw up? How did those locomotives leave the yard w/o enough fuel for the trip?
Awesome 🇭🇲🙏👍
Thank you
Do they get green stamps too.
Was train stopped on a sideline or was it a mainline track? Thanks for the video.
@@BlueRiverRailWatch4 Thanks. Do they have two mainlines at that point or was the train being refueled on a siding?
I was a mainline. The trains just went around on the other track
That is Distributed Power...in mid train.
First refueling I’ve ever seen. Why would they not top off all locomotives to avoid excess stop/start cycles?
Don't know
Perhaps those DPU locomotives didn't get in a yard with fuel in awhile. I'm on the east coast but I'm sure they use more fuel to cross the Rockies
A three axle truck cannot hold much more fuel then for two locomotives. I am a Class One tank puller/truck driver in Canada and my daughter is a conductor for Canadian Pacific.
Surprised they do not have trackside tanks at various refueling intervals.
What's the elapsed time for this refueling?
45 minutes or so
Why did you have two utility poles in the middle of the shot?
That's where they were placed in the ground.
In the good old days they would clean the windscreen while fuelling. You just can't get good service these days.
And give you green stamps
And show you the dipstick.
Plus a jelly drinking glass with every fill up.
How do they keep these trains from plowing into one another when stopped? do they have a computer onboard showing where all trains are on the tracks?
They have signal lights and control man to Keeps them going
Did you count the cars? The number would be very helpful, also origin - destination.
No, I did not, and I usually let everyone else count them if they want to. What number are you talking about and It was heading towards Kansas City.
188 cars
55 following the DPU
Iam confused counting the wagon. I think more or less 250 wagons. This is my first time to see that long. Anyways 2 trains connected each other.
There were 188 cars and 3 locomotives
I have always wondered how the Engineer manages to make his stop with such precision to line up with the fuel truck.
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It's pretty interesting.
The conductor's paperwork says now far back (in feet) the locos are. He starts an electronic counter as he passes the fuel truck.
Love learning anything and everything railroad operations related. Thanks! My Grandfather was a steam locomotive engineer on the Southern Railway, so it is in my blood.
The SD70AH-T4 and the one behind it are both DPUs which simply means it's not at the head end (DPU means Distributed Power Unit) and can be any locomotive anywhere else in the train. You said something like Locomotive or DPUs like they are different things when in reality all DPUS are locomotives.
This Train obviously didn’t come through or out of North Platte, NE.
Interesting/informative/entertaining. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing. Was this a pre scheduled delivery -??? .or did the locomotive 🚂 run low on fuel/requiring an emergency delivery -???. Wishing viewers/fuel delivery man. A safe/healthy/prosperous (2024)🌈🎉😉. Noticeable graffiti on the locomotive 🚂😱. Viewing this presentation from the comfort zone of my computer room. Along the " Space Coast "🚀 of Florida 🐊🐊.
It's pretty much when the locomotives need refueling. That's where they usually do it, and thank you
How much fuel are these engines using per hour on this flat land?
A locomotive holds 4000 gallons
How is it to live in Topeka these days?
I don't live in Topeka, but I have friends that do
How long is this train, or how many cars??
188 cars and 3 locomotives
Nice vid
Thank you
Am new to this channel. What kind of fuel and how the hell long is that train??
They use diesel fluid for the locomotives, and it was long
Thanx! Had to ask because it looked like a box trunk, not a tanker.
Great video...this practice is used by other railroads as needed...arrangements could be made where a crew change takes place..just my thoughts...oh and whats up with #tags # graffiti on engines?? This is really crossing the lines...Do NOT Deface Locomotives...period...if you want a paint job call UP and ask to work for them painting engines in there shops...nice $$ good benefits and your work is worth something finally.
I agree with you. They definitely could leave thelocomotives alone. Thank you. I'm glad you liked the video
I hate seeing graffiti on anything. Particularly trains. Great suggestion for them to go to work for the company and paint.
How much do the tanks hold?
4k each
So much excitement there in Kansas
How did he know when to stop with the DPU's?
Stop in what way? Can you explain more, please
@@GreyBeardTrains How did the engineer and conductor (in the lead locomotive, it is assumed) know where to stop so the DPUs were aligned with the refueling truck? Did the truck driver count them down? Are there closed circuit cameras on the DPUs? That would make sense as they have control link with the remote robot locomotives, and they could use camera displays from the middle (looking forward and back) to monitor the train during the run. We have the technology, as they say.
The truck driver has a radio and he calls out 5 cars 4 cars 3 cars.
Then, when he gets to the locomotive that he will say that's good
Couldn't you have walked up to the posts to get your lens past them?
how that working out in blizzard in the middle of winter with Ice on the ground?
Great video, but that is the DPU’s.
That is what they call the mid DPU’s
Thank you
How long is too long for these things?
Don't know
Possible business reasons for refueling in the sticks instead of a yard. Train length - not many yards can hold a 3-1/2 mile long train. The cities may not be happy with long trains, especially if they stop to refuel with the head and tail blocking grade crossings. In the yard, refueling would probably be performed by railroad union employees - out in the country, a contractor provides the labor. The big railroads are all about reducing labor costs. That's why trains only have 2-employee crews now, and the trains they operate are longer and longer. Stop the train in one piece, pay a contractor to fuel up the robot DPU locomotives, bypass the yards and the big cities where possible, thrill the stockholders. The price per gallon of diesel may be more by tankwagon delivery, but the labor is contracted. The train is all together, no switching or decoupling to get the locos to the fueling station.
So true
THAT NOT A DPU!!??- Is defined as power units in middle or end of train controlled by engines in front. SO
What's the fuel capacity of one of these locomotives? What's the MPG?
Capitalcityoil
3077 UP is a SD70AH-T4 OTHER IS A GE -AC44CWCTE 5834
The electronic bells are a pain in the a** with the constant ring. The ones that don't do that are ok. Headache central...lol. Robert