Cheap vs Expensive: Gaming Chair Showdown (I was Stupid)
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2021
- I compare the most expensive gaming chair that you can buy to one of the cheapest. I spend 12 hours straight in each chair to see what they do to my body.
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So apparently I am really stupid! I put the base on the cheap chair backwards. So please remove about 20% snark towards the cheap chair. In my defence, the instructions were terrible.
Lol you sure did
Nice
They couldn't be that bad maybe your just illiterate??
That means you should do the 12 hours again
I instantly thought this as soon as you complained about it 😂😂
I dont know if I'm more impressed by a chair with a $1600 price tag or the fact you went a solid 12 hrs without peeing.............twice
i bet he used bottles like a true gamer
@@arch1107 of he has a magic tube in there to just drain it away and pour it into the toilet so he does not have to deal with pee bottle smells
@@raven4k998 that or you fill it and put the bottle cap again so it doesn't smell or spill all over the place
What do you think Dawid juice is made of?
Didn't even need a foley catheter!
Erm, is anyone gonna tell him that the cheap gaming chair hasn't been assembled correctly? He's mounted the chair the wrong way around on the base. That's why it's leaning forward. It's meant to lean back.
Came here to say the same thing.
Exactly, noticed that right away and kept expecting an update that he realized the chair was mounted to the base wrong. Although the instructions that these Chinese chairs come with are garbage.
Exactly this, I have an extremely similar version of this chair and it's perfectly fine, also doesn't do that forward lean at all. That base be backwards!
This need to be pinned. I've bought a similar chair and it's not very great but still better than what he had haha
You say that, but the one chair I was given at my work was assembled the same way. It had arrows stamped into the top piston plate/pivot thing, pointing to front, so you know which way it goes together. Meaning, it was assembled as per the instructions, but apparently the instructions were wrong. Which, honestly, is depressing.
RGB would have added a 40% comfort level
1000% accurate
😂
And a 200% price mark-up ;)
YAAAAAA
You forgot that it would also increase your fps by 20fps and also it will give you 2gb of ram more...
What are the odds the base is on backwards and it should be slightly leaning back instead?
I had a similar cheap chair with an identical mechanism. He does indeed have it backwards
same as what I thught my chair work like this that it leaning back not like Dawid chair
It's defo on the wrong way. Entire video screwed up because of user error haha
@@shanilkanavagamuwa1686 either way it's better to buy a used branded chair
Haha!! Oh no! I did assemble it incorrectly. I am clearly very stupid. In my defence the instructions were really bad. Thanks for letting me know.
Yeah, it’s a sad day when a $1600 purchase doesn’t ALSO do your Taxes :(
thats when the dark web comes in😃
something tells me you will keep that chair
G'day Anna & Neko,
🤔I think this video Idea was just so Dawid could spend 2 days being waited on by you two while playing PC Games
@@shaneeslick well he did have a really nice weekend so I think you might be on to something 😹
Honestly, gaming chairs are such a scam. They take cheapo chairs, slap some coolio design on it, and mark it up sixfold to make it seem more appealing than the $20 chair you see at Ross.
Go buy yourself a decent ergonomic chair, stencil on "Gaming" on the headrest, and your entire body will thank you. I mean, that's essentially what the Embody is. Hell, go on Marketplace and find someone selling a used Mirra or Aeron and you're still going to have a much better time than that $300 gaming chair with racing stripes
If you can’t find a used Aaron, get the Ergo Chair 2. It’s like $300 and fantastic. It’s what I use at work.
@@Crazyates11 Yup, you cannot go wrong with any quality ergo chair. It's amazing what a difference it makes to sit for 8+ hours a day in a chair meant to actually support you, not just meant to look cool.
Honestly, get your self some exercise ;) Then any chair, even simplest for restaurants, would be good enough.
@@aleksazunjic9672 Cool story. Thanks for contributing.
@@aleksazunjic9672 false
On the cheap chair, you have it mounted backward, that adjustable knob on the bottom should be under the front of the chair, not the back. So you can, you know, lean back..
Yeah, I messed up. I pinned a comment explaining my incompetence. Thanks for letting me know.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff i love how almost all the comments and responses is you digging into your mistake haha
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Of course. I have the same cheap chair. lol
@@DawidDoesTechStuff how could you be so ignorant? Unbelievable. You literally are the wish version of a UA-camr
Given the $1600 price tag, I think I'd rather just get a damn recliner and a plank of plywood for my keyboard and mouse.
As someone with a HM chair, they're so you can comfortably sit around for 6 to 12 hours a day everyday for 4 to 5+ days a week and not break your butthole. Your back will thank you especially later down the line. Recliners feel great....but they definitely ain't good for posture lol.
dude hell yeah get a recliner with all the magic in it or hell you could literally buy a whole living room set with that kind of money ahaha shit............ also i only do recliner gaming with a 55 inch tv haha i got into pcs like a year ago and i just cant do the small monitors and desk thing eeeekkk....
@@Shyvorix One thing I don't understand about this HM chair is why the hell is it not tall enough so you can lean your head too? 10X cheaper chairs have that. Unbeliveable for that kind of price point. As for the recliner, that's the first thing that usually breaks on a chair, so surely they couldn't offer 12 year warranty if they went with that option I assume.
@@Im_too_old_for_this_shit Cause they've shown research that, for an office chair, meant to be in an office setting, it's unnecessary from an anatomically correct posture standpoint to need a headrest. Your head should be straight up and propped up when you work, and not be tilted up or down when working. The Embody sort of follows a similar philosophy but for the home office, so it's taller so it's possible but there are third party headrests for both.
They've said it themselves that it's unnecessary from a posture correctness standpoint. I have an Aeron and it's 100% unnecessary and I've had 0 issues sitting for hours (which is technically not what you're supposed to do, you're supposed to stand 10 to 15 minutes for every 1 to 2 hours to prevent issues such as a deep vein thrombosis or other cardiovascular issues and complications.) But I did get a headrest for relaxing but I don't use it that often all things considered at least when at attention.
@@Shyvorix I'm having significant health problems with my back, so I kinda started watching these HM videos trying to find a right chair. One thing that wasn't clear is the lack of a proper headrest, but thank you for the clarification. Anyway, I still think a headreast would be a good idea. I woudn't use it all the time, if I'm siting there and working something I'll do it in a proper way, but every now and then you just want to watch a 30min youtube video or something, just recline and relax, lift your legs up on the table and enjoy the moment. You know what I mean? For these kind of moments, you really need a headrest. Anyway, you said you own Aeron. Does it support recline/put your legs up on the table mode? If it does, then I guess it's a better option for me than the one in the video.
"Hopefully I'll never have to sit back on that chair again"
Sits on it again in conclusion
so much for you hopes and dreams of not having to do that one dude
As many of others have said, you have the base on backwards the knob (the one underneath the chair not the one sat in the chair😂) is supposed to be facing the front, this will allow it to tilt backwards, rather than act as an ejection system .🤣
I bought the Hermann Miller Embody last year for myself since I spent 10+ hours on it working/relaxing almost daily and it's been the best investment in a long time. Haven't had sitting-related back problems ever since. Also, I recommend some sort of footrest if you spend that much time sitting. It just helps with the butt fatigue.
I have the herman miller aeron. Decked out all in 1500$ glory. To be honest, if it was my real monet i would never spend that much but the aeron is built like a hammoch
Lol every tech youtuber is uploading rx 6600 gpu review videos and then theres just Dawid uploading chair reviews
That's why we love Dawid!
I've had an Embody for over two years. Mine is white frame with red fabric. I don't regret it at all. Incredible chair.
oh common get the cheap gaming chair and see how long it takes till it breaks and you have to go back to your embody chair
Everyone should get a recliner instead. Some even have built in refrigerators. That's the mark of a great gaming chair.
is your gaming chair trying to mame you?
“I was stupid”
The story of all our lives, Dawid
Haha!! Thanks, that made me feel better. :)
"I don't have a problem with G force while gaming"
People looking for a GPU: *starts sweating*
I can confirm that the amazon chair was ROUGH and really did make you feel like you were about to be slingshot across the room
So less race car bucket seat, more fighter jet ejector seat then?
Headline: "local Namibian-Canadian man hurt after being flung across room and through window by gaming chair"
They actually suck.
nice camera work Anna!
@@zzclockz why thank you kind sir!
We have those Herman miller's at work. Worth every penny compared to any gaming chair.
I'm so thankful you are doing this video. Can't wait to watch after work. I REALLY want a new chair but not sure how much an issue $$$ is.
I've just noticed the comments are filled with ppl saying how he assembled it wrong, and im here for the realization once he reads them. 🍿
Hahaha!! Yeah, I just noticed.
My 15-year-old has one of this style of chairs (likely made in the same factories overseas) and he uses the "Laying back like a rich person flying in First Class" position a lot, usually while gaming, but again, as he is 15, his standards of actual 'comfort' are a bit suspect.
I got my first Secret Lab Titan chair about 2 years ago and have loved it, spent many long days working from home and never had a back pain issue. I recently got a 2nd because I wanted one for a different room and used it as the opportunity to get the soft weave fabric version and its been great as well. I had a Herman Miller Aeron chair when I first got the Titan and I preferred the Titan in every way.
I was also in the mindset when first sitting on my embody that it just didn't feel like it was as comfy as I was expecting for the price. Outside of the arms not really being as adjustable as I was hoping I have really started to love it. I have way less back pain after long work from home work/school/gaming sessions. I would definitely recommend it especially if you have the money to spend. The longer I use it the more I like it.
I have an Embody and a Steelcase Gesture. I'll never sit in a "gaming chair" again.
My back is way happier. The Embody butt pad gets a little hard after a few hours, but the back support on it is amazing. If I could put the butt pad from the Gesture with the Embody back piece, it might be the perfect chair.
I do office work and sit all day for work and also like to game. I prefer a good office chair they generally have better padding and generally more comfortable for when you sit a majority of the day. The butt pad is also wider which is great for a big guy like me who likes to sit cross legged.
You should go for one of those chairs Linus had a while ago with the keyboard and monitor built in and the chair can swivel upwards like you are on a spaceship at launch.
More Chair reviews please I need the best between price and comfort. I need Dawid Does Sit.
I've been using a random office chair I found at the side of the road and it was in pretty pristine condition.
It rolls great, feels great and I cannot complain at all.
But can you put on some death metal, curl up in the chair and spin around in circles really fast until you puke ? Can your chair handle that !?:
I would totally buy a Herman Miller if they partnered with Purple. I was having tailbone an circulation problems while on furlough and their rather expensive cushions turned my ergonomic task chair into a kinds throne. My problem with Herman Miller is that they seem to ignore the 8+ hour average use mark to target a more reasonable 4-6 hour rating, with the intention that you're going to take a break at some point. And while yes, you should always get up and stretch every 2 hours, short breaks don't magically solve tailbone strain. If they focused on both long term health and short term comfort then I'd gladly drop over a thousand for a chair like that.
You need a Herman miller Aeron. They have 3 sizes and more like a anti grav chair, Its like 500$ tho.
A Herman Miller chair is definitely on my bucket list, along with space travel and solving world poverty
I did a lot of research on "gaming chairs", I bought a Secret Lab cloth chair, as I don't prefer leather. Had for over a year now and am very satisfied with it
Titan?
I got the omega softweve, fantastic chairs
@@voidokami1427 omega
I did a bunch of research on chairs, as I work from home and sit in front of my PCs for hours on end. Ending up going with an expensive office chair rather than a gaming chair (I game and work, sometimes at the same time!). I picked the Steelcase Leap. Still super happy with it too.
I feel like there should've been a third contender, a secret lab chair.
The herman miller isn't really what i'd call a gaming chair, but it's still a worthy comparison.
I have a secret lab Titan and I love it. It was a major upgrade from my $100 Costco ergonomic mesh office chair. I had to use a lumbar pillow with it, but because of the way the Titan supports my back I am able to use the built in lumbar support and ditch the pillow!
The Herman Miller one is marketed as a gaming chair
Pretty sure that an aeron beats this chairs haha
Honestly, ever since I got a standing desk my chair hasn't been used.
Same :)
Standing for really long periods of time isn't good for your body either. It can give you lower back and leg pain. You should switch between the chair and standing.
I've had a similar version of the cheap chair for 4 years now. I sit on it over 12 hours a day, every day. Had to change one part this year which cost a very small fraction of the price and it's like new again. My back never hurts and I'm quite comfy while sitting on it. It might be "bad", but it's good enough for me!
Bad is relative, I bought a cheap $20 chair from a garage sale and have been using it for 2 years. It just works for me.
Dawid's videos don't let me leave without a smile because of how perfect the sentences are
Mine has lasted 3 months now. You did not build your chair correctly, mine is not pushing forward.
"I don't have a problem with G-forces while gaming"
Duh, you use a GT710
For those who don't know that knob in some chairs actually dictates how much weight you need to use to lean back as in lean back not lay back as in the back of the chair goes down
Still rocking my good ol' DxRacer formula. It's a bit hard on the butt, but nothing a nice fluffy sheepskin won't fix! Had it for 5 years and it looks almost brand new.
While you are right about the chair being bad, you put the base on backwards on the cheap chair. That lean is supposed to go backwards.
funny how even kitty love the expensive chair over the cheap chair love it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yo dawid you built the chair backwards hahah its supposed to lean back not forward lmao
Hahahaha IKR !!!
Like this type of comparison videos.
Also still requesting the ASMR video of 2 pieces of tech being comapred!
Gotta run that Walmart brand gaming chair. Totally worth it
Hello dawid, we’ve emailed you multiple times with no response. We are wondering, If we send out one of our pre-built Gaming PCs, will you be willing to Do an honest review on it?
I hope Dawid notices this then buys a prebuilt from them without telling them, pulling a Beve Sturke on their asses.
Yeah seems like a scam lol
@@FearMukuro oh it is a scam account. Already not going well
@@FearMukuro We’re just a new company, Already sending out PCs to other big creators to review our PCs. Thanks
@@airtechgaming3335 so the other 5 accounts named AirTech gaming just don’t exist, including the AirTech gaming that actually has their own website with a link to a different channel. Seems like impersonating to me lol unless you can provide me with a legit website that you claim to be
A cheap ergonomic office chair is better than both.
Also hats off to David for actually doing this for 24 hours
Honestly no. The embody is just amazing and beats every cheaper model I have ever sit in
great video! I would like to see one that covers a little more middle ground though. The video was fun but I feel like compairing $150 to $1600 seems a little unfair. You should throw a Secret Labs chair into the mix and maybe some more of the more popular chairs in different price ranges to see if the extra money is actually worth it.
Personally I'd go for a secret lab chair. It costs a lot but nowhere near as much as that logitech chair and I've had mine for 4 years now and have sat on it for around 12 hours a day for work and gaming (that sounds really bad when I type it I need to become a builder or something).. Anyway, the chair still holds up perfectly and feels like the day I first bought it!
Dawid is gonna be the best gamer with the gaming chair
He would beat a tool assisted player with that
The knob (No, the one UNDER the chair!😂) is for adjusting the resistance of the tilt-function, so it fits to your weight/leaning muscles.
-It's ridiculously weird, and hard to adjust properly, so no one uses it...😆
I bought a refurbished Leap V1 (almost 20 years old) chair for ~$300 almost a year ago. This thing is awesome and has raised my expectations for an office chair. This older model has less plastic construction and has more steel, so its extremely heavy.
I bought a $108 gaming chair and it's held up for the past 3 years I've been heavily using it surprisingly.
That's awesome to hear! I'm glad it's been holding up. 👍
There is no gaming chair.
Only good chair and bad chair.
Get a used hermi or one of those used ergonomic chairs from offices.
Yeah, office chairs are the way to go. I don't even know why these gaming chairs exist, besides a surplus of car seats. uwu
Not sure if masterclass trolling, or if Dawid is really incapable of setting up a basic gaming chair....
Classic dawid mistake
I think I’m more impressed he convinced Anna to let him do this video. 2 12 hour gaming sessions. I feel like someone needed to catch up on some gaming. Lol Thanks for the videos!
I bought a used high quality executive officer chair for $150 in 1990...used 4-5 times a week for the last 31 years. It's still in great shape, comfortable and all the features still work. Great investment!
Gaming chairs are a complete SCAM! All because it says “gaming” in the name. People need to realize this and start actually getting ergonomic chairs that are meant for long standard of use…
Agreed but the embody is also a regular chair. The gaming one just means the Logitech logo is on it.
Yep, and everything else with "gaming" in it like the horrible overpriced headphones.
Much like G fuel that guys like mutah sells to kids. GaMeR fUeL
Bought one being used as a display model during a convention for 50 bucks and it has lasted me nearly two years, have yet to encounter a single issue while sitting on it. Don't generalize, it all depends on the user case scenario and each perosn't body.
6:06 And thus the chair loses it's entire market of discord mods and LoL gamers
I have one of the "Cheaper" gaming chairs E-win for around $150 and i've spent alot of 12+ hour sessions in it and had it for over 3 years now :)
I've got the Inland, Microcenter house brand, version of the "torture chair", and I'm not sure if mine is just made of better parts, but it's incredibly solid and comfortable.
If you hadn't assembled the cheap chair incorrectly, you wouldn't have had a problem.
Pro Tip: Look for used Herman Miller Aeron's in your area.
You can easily pick one up for ~$350 fully loaded. Your back will love you.
Such BS. When I was looking there was none under $1000 no matter how old.
Can confirm that in my 20's and even in to my 30's it was no big deal sitting in cheap chairs. That changes and it changes hard. Recently spent the money on a "real" chair, a Steelcase Leap V2, and boy does it make a difference.
If getting one brand new is a problem, there are places that sell used office furniture or companies that take used high-end chairs like these and refurbish them. The core fit and function is still there, but with some new juice free upholstery and refreshed padding. I went the refurb route because I was somewhat skeptical and figured it was a happy medium starting point. Solid decision I must say. Very pleased and I got a great chair at about half the price of new.
I'm so glad I went with a Secret Labs a few years back, I sit on my chair 8 hours a day for work and honestly any less support and I would be in massive pain all the time.
I legit cringed when I saw you sit in the "traditional" gaming chair to start your 12 hour shift. I can't stand more than 3 hours in the one I have.
That's why you sit on it.
@@jeanbeinjour5918 ICWATUDIDTHERE! 😂
The cheap chair is assembled incorrectly did he read the manual or just yolo'd it for the content? The knob is supposed to control how tense the spring in leaning mode is and the knob should be in front not in the back.
For $1600 I would expect neck support to be included this has none and somebody who has serious neck issues and upper back issues can't do without neck support. So for my specific usecase cheaper chair with neck support will do better than $1600 chair.
I'm just wondering how you can assemble it the wrong way around.
Shouldn't these kind of things be designed to be fool-proof?
I did read the instructions, I am just stupid. XD
Dawid does chair stuff, my favourite channel
As usual your amusing presentation really brings to life what is often a very boring mundane topic.
I'm sitting on my outdoor foldable wooden chair for 8 hours daily and am literally drooling at the thought of that herman miller chair man
The best thing to do if you want a good and comfortable chair on the cheap, check different clearances from company offices (or auctions thereof) that closed their doors for one reason or another.
Professional office chairs are made for 9 hours of sitting per day, and are usually in the 400-1000 euro/dollar range new, but you can get them for like 20 to 100 euros/dollars.
My previous office chair lasted over 10 years and was very comfortable, but the fabric was worn. Now I got two 650 euro chairs for 40 euros (one for me and one for my SO) and they're really comfortable, really well built and the support is perfect.
You have and will go on teaching us with fun. Huge respect and love Sir ♥️
From India.
I use a actual vintage chair (around 40-50 years old) for gaming and its holding up well even with very very long gaming sessions
I think I'm just gonna have to figure out how to rig up a semi-truck seat on casters. After becoming a trucker, I found that the cab seats, especially if I have room to shift my legs around, are some of the most comfortable seats I've ever sat in for extended periods of time.
It occurred to me a couple weeks ago that the seat in my pickup truck was far more comfortable than any office or gaming chair I've had to use in the last 10 years. And then it occurred to me that there are a number of pick-a-part auto salvage places within 20 minutes. This is now on my to-do list.
The saying goes, "Buy cheap, buy twice". Of course, sometimes you just need the cheap for one thing and you're perfectly happy knowing you will need to buy it again later.
This was a hilarious yet useful video idea
Dawid I wanna see you play guitar so bad!! The intro riff gets me hyped for every video
same that candy red strat in the beginning is just too good to not see played
respect the courage for coming out of the Herald closet! TI has been litty tho
Haha!! Yeah. I have actually gotten to Guardian 2, still terrible at the game though. XD
I don't know how you manage to make these kind of videos funny with your commentary
Can confirm this was my experience as well with this type of chair. I got one of the cheap ones on amazon and after about 8 months it felt like it was 8 years old. Lucked up on a good deal for the top end AKRacing gaming chair and its still holding up well after 3+ years. Use the chair for gaming, sim racing, and when I worked from home. so I was spend about 18 hours in that chair every day for 2 years and had no back issues at all. the cheap chair would not have worked for that.
A HermanMiller pro tip: Check with used office furniture sellers in your area. You can buy good stuff for a lot less. For example, used variants of the Aeron chair in the video at 0:28 sell for US$550 here in Houston, Texas, USA. Used furniture will likely be sold as is, so make certain everything is to your liking before you pay: check the mechanism, sit in the chair, play with all the adjustments, check the fabric and whatnot.
After many years of buying various office/gaming chairs that started off feeling comfortable but after a year became uncomfortable as the padding hardened, not to mention unstable with that central piston base I decided to get a chair from Herman Miller.
I got a different one from what Dawid demonstrated and it was cheaper but after six years I can honestly say it is the best investment I have ever made.
To this day it is as good as the day I bought it, no wobble on the base, no squeaks and the resistance and spring back for the recline function is as good as ever.
I got the one with the mesh back and seat which is great for hot environments as you do not end up sitting in your own juices.
After hours of sitting in it there are no aches and pains unlike those cheap chairs but don't go thinking you can sit for twelve hours without feeling some discomfort, that is just unreasonable.
The price may seem a bit steep but 12 year warranty vs 1 or none and replacing every year makes Herman Miller a bargain.
The forward lean in that chair reminds me of those forward leaning toilets that companies in the US are putting in bathrooms to minimize the time spent on bathroom breaks
The expensive chair is a variant on the Herman Miller Embody made for Logitech, slightly worse than a standard business edition in terms of seating and breathability of the fabric. I have the Business variant of the Embody and it's the best chair I've ever owned by a fair margin.
i have my pc in the livingroom so i can sit on the couch and game on my big screen lol super comfy and universal, only time i have to move for gaming is if i have to use my sim driving rig
I got one of these gamers chairs... i had to buy more padding for the seat area, and i also had to buy and use a cutting board... because in the seat area it would sage so much. So I put in some padding then i put in the cutting board and more padding and now this gaming chair feels amazing. With out the extra padding and cutting board my bottom would go so numb from sitting in it all day long.
Why does this video come when I have spent a week thinking nothing about a new chair! I swear Dawid reads my mind
8 years in on my dxracer and ive only added a wheel chair padding thing for when i race rally
By the way, for others that have this common variety of "cheap chair" I recommend trying them without the lumbar "support" or neck pillow. If they are like mine they are not effective and serve as more of an aesthetic suggestion that you have a nice thing with good features. To make mine useful I'd probably have to carve out at least half of that protruding foam.
one thing i've come to realise is that good office chairs are often way more comfortable and cheaper than most gaming chairs
I used to have a similar chair, which will be the exact same chair as they all are. I got a new chair with useable quality and wow has it made a difference. Though it did last me many, and I mean many years I wish I did go with a vastly more expensive chair, even if I didn't have the money at the time. As it would have refrained me from eventually buying one anyway.
I have the embody before the collab came out.. I'm 47 and an software dev by trade, I regret all the time I sat in cheap chairs. I had a dev job working at home several years ago so I had to buy stuff anyways and had lots of neck problems. Once you get old and looking at back or neck surgeries like many of my peers have had, the coin you drop on a quality chair to avoid that is a no brainer (same for good desk setup).
My experience with a Mirra 2 ( a cheaper Herman miller) was that with a bit of adjustments it got much more comfortable
Mirra 2 is super underrated.
Serta makes great office chairs and I love gaming in mine. It's a game changer for comfort on my butt and back support. Lots of cushion. I only weigh 150lvs but it's still amazing cushion.
I went through so many computer chairs and finally broke down and bought a Steelcase Gesture. The warranty alone can pay for it's self and keep you a lot less miserable.
For half the price of the red&black "abomination of a chair", I bought a quite decent office armchair and a triangle pillow to put under my thighs backwards. With a footrest it lifts my legs and pushes my lower back to the backrest for support. Feels just fine.
Yknow, I feel like a secretlabs chair is a nice middle ground here. Has the high back, costs like 400 at most, is extremely comfortable
I am useing my home furniture sofa for 2 years know with 2 pillows it's like hevan . If I sit for like 6 to 8 hours then I will start filling the soreness. It's very good it's made of wood . It has a warranty of 100 years. You can fix a sofa at any furniture shop
The seat part of the Herman Miller adjusts in depth that might change your level of comfort.
I've got a $200 Tempur-Pedic office chair I rather like. I even bought a set of slip cover arm rest covers to go over the original bare arm rests.