Should you add get lost as an alternate removal to go for the throat because it would give you maps with Kambal or is go for the throat better? Great video btw.
Since the plunderers have menace, I think you had lethal at 12:40 if you have archangel of wrath kill the 2/2 with one kick and go face with the other- 2 extra face damage and leaving them with an additional artifact would've killed them. Not that it mattered, but this deck has interesting combat maths sometimes.
That triple generous plunderer + rankle and torbran turn 3 win makes me think there's a more aggro version of this deck which cuts the white and uses your own plunderers to ramp quickly
I'm a little surprised not to see the 4 mana investigator that makes the opponent discard for clues. Seems like a sweet card alongside the purveyor to punish the opponent for using blood tokens.
It is really a monster of card to hold off the aggro. Would be p terrible when facing control. At the same time, though, it really threatens to hit you hard if not handled right.
Giving the opportunity to cycle through their deck for an answer to your opponent can backfire really easily Like the other comment said, against aggro it's cool, against control not so much
Although I generally prefer Standard videos, I was kinda hoping this was going to be a Kambal Brawl video. Seems like a fun buildaround. Regardless, this is a cool deck. Especially including red for the Plunderer. That dude put in work!
@@goomshill once, maybe. Saying nice to every. Single. Thing? Nah. Imagine being in person and the same thing happens: “I tap two pl-“ “Nice!” “…Ok?… So anyways I tap one for-“ “Nice!” “Right. So I move to declare att-“ “Nice!”
Surprisingly good Decklist gave the impression of being somewhat janky but as it turns out, even when the Kambal token theme doesn’t appear, mardu removal + beatdown lines up reasonably well against a lot of creature decks
41:30 "I have a response". Probably the most ominous thing every said on this channel 😅 (Bonus, timing was just to fizzle the demonic aura so it would not ever be on the battlefield and draw a card, as opposed to just waiting for before damage step)
At the end of match 1, the opponent has to have a stop already set or have full control on to get a chance to sac the untapped treasure otherwise arena will just pass through it.
I also really like kambal in the alchemy dedicated dollmaker deck. If they ever have anything really good, you can target it with dollmaker and get a copy of your own, then clone it with oltec matterweaver
Was hoping to see more Kambal, but he wasn't drawn enough, sadly. Would've been nice to see Eiganjo Uprising making 2X-1 tokens, though only X with menace and haste. 😂
4th opponent gameplay was painful If he kept the lands in hand not only would have been able to use bloods to dig for spells but also would have enabled descend to gain back the skeleton enchantment (and save some damage from the Plunderer)
I think Get Lost would be a better two mana removal over Go for the throat. Just works well at removing more things and makes tokens which you can use.
I swapped the GftT for Get Lost, more synergistic with the Plunderers, imo... who are also nice with a couple Magdas, with all the crimes being committed everywhere :) Cut some Purveyors to make room for the 2 Magdas
Cool deck! Though argh! Looks like that mythic 2 drop plays really well. Like all the other powerful mythics shoehorned into the bonus sheet to drain our collective wildcards/wallets.
If you want some slightly more accessible replacements, I tried with 2 Slaughter Artists and 2 Tribute to Horobi instead of the Plunderer, and it seems to work ok, at least as a stopgap to not use mythic wildcards
Could you suggest any suitable fill ins for 'Generous Plunderer' $4 Mythic wild cards I don't have to spare 😅 What about 'Charming Scoundrel' just off the top of my head... I'm sure you could suggest an older substitute! Thanks again for all the great work LVD! Ya I mean can this deck really function without the Plunderer? He seems to be the star of the show! :( Love the deck otherwise!
Probably wouldn't bother building the deck without it, since it's one of the main build-around cards. However also don't recommend spending wildcards on it 😅
Don’t know if it came up after the first match, but with Kambal out an opponent’s Monstrous Rage should trigger Kambal’s ability and create a monster role token (I guess you get to attach it to one of your creatures?)
I musta missed it when looking at the comments, thanks for your response. I definitely do see the drawback being major when games go grindier against mono red. As per usual your insight provides a lot of value!
Interesting suggestion! Could certainly be an option for a slightly more aggressive build that’s maybe just black/red with Robber and Purveyor as ways to enable it.
A deck that can actually use interesting cards without a home like Eiganjo Uprising, Rankle and Torbran, and Bloodvial Purveyor??? (tho purveyor has seen some small amount of play as just a big dumb cheap flyer I guess). I'm in.
The curve is a little awkward even if we draw it with Kambal, since we can't play it on turn two yet. It's not the most individually powerful card, so while there is some synergy I didn't include it.
It's an interesting suggestion! While it has great synergy with Kambal, I fear that it has too much of a drawback when facing aggro decks, where you can't afford to give them another threat.
@@LegenVD Fair, although let's see... Lightning Helix, Lord Skitter, Cut Down, Go for the Throat, Archangel of Wrath, Generous Plunderer... seems like quite a few enablers Not to mention, Generous Plunderer's target ability and treasures synergize really well with Magda
@@johndoe9343 Point taken! Although I still really want her to make Treasure the same turn we play her, which is where Tinybones comes in handy. Lord Skitter is good at that too later in the game, Plunderer requires us to wait until our next upkeep. A cheap card like Relic of Progenitus would be perfect, but that one isn't in Standard.
12:45 u miss lethal there .Should have just kill the shepherd and go face down to 9 will archangel then hit them with the two plunderer.Since the seraph still alive and can't block the pluderers,it would have been 2+2+3+3=10=dead, with the 2 tap treasures that they can't sack
As a player of a version of this deck, I'd like to start by saying thanks for giving me some great ideas on how to lose to to the Esper Midrange deck, that dominates standard, more efficiently. What's the point in showcasing any deck against any other deck if there is one deck that can rule them all? Show me how these decks perform against the Raffine Esper Midrange deck and then I'll be impressed, or likely not. Not hating, your videos are great and I love you insights, but until I actually see you go up against a real deck, this is all just fluff.
Your cynicism is appreciated, but you might be getting things confused with traditional Standard. Esper sees very little play in the Best of One standard meta, sitting at around only 2,5% metagame share. Monored Aggro and Boros Convoke are the most played decks here, with roughly 30% metagame share combined and a much higher winrate than Esper.
In case you missed yesterday's video on the Arena channel:
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Should you add get lost as an alternate removal to go for the throat because it would give you maps with Kambal or is go for the throat better? Great video btw.
@@File_1 It's an option, a few other comments discussing it!
What do you think about playing teysa from karlov manner in the deck
@@File_1 Not enough Clue token synergy imo.
Every time I get a concession I hear in my head "...and our opponent explodes!"
Lol thought I was the only one
Since the plunderers have menace, I think you had lethal at 12:40 if you have archangel of wrath kill the 2/2 with one kick and go face with the other- 2 extra face damage and leaving them with an additional artifact would've killed them.
Not that it mattered, but this deck has interesting combat maths sometimes.
Checks out!
That triple generous plunderer + rankle and torbran turn 3 win makes me think there's a more aggro version of this deck which cuts the white and uses your own plunderers to ramp quickly
It's nice that Eiganjo Uprising got to do _something_ in its Standard lifetime, if only just.
Ah, I find your sarcasm regarding standard bomb Eiganjo Uprising amusing!
I'm a little surprised not to see the 4 mana investigator that makes the opponent discard for clues. Seems like a sweet card alongside the purveyor to punish the opponent for using blood tokens.
Mostly comes down to the curve already having some 4-drops, but it's certainly worth considering!
@@LegenVD Just like the Baron and Warleader's Call, I would assume?
@@BloodyFox1 Baron is just too slow and the deck isn't aggressive enough to fully leverage Warleader's.
Gonna start calling chickens "bird wizards" from now on
What other bird produces that much endless food lol
Exciting to see Mardu Tokens, especially with Eiganjo Uprising and Rankle and Torbran
Wooo, new LVD video.
I LOVE Mardu decks!
Two videos starting out with beating monored in a row, quite nice
All you need is a deck that gains a little bit of life to beat most mono red players
Nice deck with cool synergies. Those cards as a whole looked pretty good. Pleasantly surprised.
Bloodvial Purveyor is kinda crazy... 4-mana 5/6 with trample and flying, downside of giving your opponent blood tokens seems pretty acceptable
It is really a monster of card to hold off the aggro. Would be p terrible when facing control. At the same time, though, it really threatens to hit you hard if not handled right.
Giving the opportunity to cycle through their deck for an answer to your opponent can backfire really easily
Like the other comment said, against aggro it's cool, against control not so much
Really like this deck. Plunderer is very scary in multiples!
Plunderer seemed like the Allstar of the deck to me
This is the kinda deck you build before Arena removes all aggro from your matchmaking algo
I believe you had lethal at 12:30 if you aimed one Archangel trigger at the Shepherd and the other one face.
Checks out!
Such a clever and original deck! I loved it.
Although I generally prefer Standard videos, I was kinda hoping this was going to be a Kambal Brawl video. Seems like a fun buildaround.
Regardless, this is a cool deck. Especially including red for the Plunderer. That dude put in work!
Man this is such a cool deck. Thanks for showing off some awesome new brews in this meta!
Really neat deck
This feels like a good deck for 4 mana Kaya. Shes impressed me in decks that can support her.
Love it when the monored players gets salty repeating "Nice" at every card being played
Wow playing a strategy that only does one thing is inoptimal?? Who would’ve guessed?!?!
I occasionally use nice just to acknowledge opponent’s synergies going off.
the guy who disconnected was definitely a saltmonger, the 'nice' might be genuine
@@goomshill once, maybe. Saying nice to every. Single. Thing? Nah.
Imagine being in person and the same thing happens:
“I tap two pl-“
“Nice!”
“…Ok?… So anyways I tap one for-“
“Nice!”
“Right. So I move to declare att-“
“Nice!”
Once they start that nonsense I just mute
List looks amazing. Excited to check this out.
Surprisingly good
Decklist gave the impression of being somewhat janky but as it turns out, even when the Kambal token theme doesn’t appear, mardu removal + beatdown lines up reasonably well against a lot of creature decks
Wait I'M early to a LVD video!? LET'S GOOOOOO!!!!! 🔥🤘
This is the kinda standard deck I'm into.
To my wild cards: it was nice knowing you o7
41:30 "I have a response". Probably the most ominous thing every said on this channel 😅
(Bonus, timing was just to fizzle the demonic aura so it would not ever be on the battlefield and draw a card, as opposed to just waiting for before damage step)
This is the coolest OTJ standard deck I've seen yet
At the end of match 1, the opponent has to have a stop already set or have full control on to get a chance to sac the untapped treasure otherwise arena will just pass through it.
I also really like kambal in the alchemy dedicated dollmaker deck. If they ever have anything really good, you can target it with dollmaker and get a copy of your own, then clone it with oltec matterweaver
If I still played MtG myself, this deck would be right up my alley!
Was hoping to see more Kambal, but he wasn't drawn enough, sadly. Would've been nice to see Eiganjo Uprising making 2X-1 tokens, though only X with menace and haste. 😂
Yeah, I tried. Recorded more games than usual just to see a little bit of Kambal, since he didn't show up much.
What a cool deck.
This deck is sweet as hell!
4th opponent gameplay was painful
If he kept the lands in hand not only would have been able to use bloods to dig for spells but also would have enabled descend to gain back the skeleton enchantment (and save some damage from the Plunderer)
What a "Nice" Guy 😂
I think Get Lost would be a better two mana removal over Go for the throat. Just works well at removing more things and makes tokens which you can use.
It's a close one since monored can certainly leverage the extra Map tokens. Could see a split of the two working out.
This deck is simple yet deadly
Solid Thumbnail 👌
Legenvd you always make a deck I have half the wild cards for but was working on. Oh well thank you for doing the tuning for us!
I swapped the GftT for Get Lost, more synergistic with the Plunderers, imo... who are also nice with a couple Magdas, with all the crimes being committed everywhere :)
Cut some Purveyors to make room for the 2 Magdas
Cool deck!
Though argh! Looks like that mythic 2 drop plays really well. Like all the other powerful mythics shoehorned into the bonus sheet to drain our collective wildcards/wallets.
I feel you, while the deck is very fun and unique I also wouldn't recommend crafting it for that reason.
If you want some slightly more accessible replacements, I tried with 2 Slaughter Artists and 2 Tribute to Horobi instead of the Plunderer, and it seems to work ok, at least as a stopgap to not use mythic wildcards
@@erichjanzen3982 Did you mean Slaughter Specialist?
@@jasonC1.6 ah yep ty
I would suggest to play "Get Lost" over "Go for the throat" more variety and tokens
It's a close one since monored can certainly leverage the extra Map tokens. Could see a split of the two working out.
Could you suggest any suitable fill ins for 'Generous Plunderer' $4 Mythic wild cards I don't have to spare 😅 What about 'Charming Scoundrel' just off the top of my head... I'm sure you could suggest an older substitute! Thanks again for all the great work LVD!
Ya I mean can this deck really function without the Plunderer? He seems to be the star of the show! :( Love the deck otherwise!
Probably wouldn't bother building the deck without it, since it's one of the main build-around cards.
However also don't recommend spending wildcards on it 😅
@@LegenVD Cheers bud 😞
Interesting deck. GJ.
"Nice!" indeed Alveric.. "Nice!" indeed.
Fun and creative! What about a greedy little Mondrak in the mix to double ALL the tokens? :)
03:50 Thank you for speaking it out. its start getting really boring again
Wow. Setting off celebration for your opponent. Lol. That's great.
Surprise party!
Don’t know if it came up after the first match, but with Kambal out an opponent’s Monstrous Rage should trigger Kambal’s ability and create a monster role token (I guess you get to attach it to one of your creatures?)
Good point, haven't seen it happen yet.
Nice!
Might I ask why go for the throat over get lost? The map token downside is an upside with the mayor out, I would think.
Definitely! Have some other comments discussing it.
I musta missed it when looking at the comments, thanks for your response. I definitely do see the drawback being major when games go grindier against mono red. As per usual your insight provides a lot of value!
might be too situational, but any consideration for vengeful tracker to punish the oppo artifact use?
Interesting suggestion! Could certainly be an option for a slightly more aggressive build that’s maybe just black/red with Robber and Purveyor as ways to enable it.
A deck that can actually use interesting cards without a home like Eiganjo Uprising, Rankle and Torbran, and Bloodvial Purveyor??? (tho purveyor has seen some small amount of play as just a big dumb cheap flyer I guess). I'm in.
Looks really cool. Tribute to Horobi might work here?
The curve is a little awkward even if we draw it with Kambal, since we can't play it on turn two yet.
It's not the most individually powerful card, so while there is some synergy I didn't include it.
Would it make sense to replace Go for the throat with the white removal from Thunder Junction that gives the opponent an ox token?
It's an interesting suggestion! While it has great synergy with Kambal, I fear that it has too much of a drawback when facing aggro decks, where you can't afford to give them another threat.
@@LegenVD good point!
12:40 missed lethal
I've been made aware!
Can't believe Danny Trejo makes out to be a good magic card
Hey LVD, any Insights on Bloodletter of Aclazotz + Rush of Dread combo deck?
Did a video on it last month on the Arena channel.
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@@LegenVD Thanks!
Match 7 was a little brutal
Fun !
Mardu or Mardon't, that is the question
"Our opponent has disconnected" aka our opponent is salty af
What are your thoughts on using the magda here?
Not sure if we're committing enough crimes, would really want Tinybones Joins Up alongside her at least.
@@LegenVD Fair, although let's see...
Lightning Helix, Lord Skitter, Cut Down, Go for the Throat, Archangel of Wrath, Generous Plunderer... seems like quite a few enablers
Not to mention, Generous Plunderer's target ability and treasures synergize really well with Magda
@@johndoe9343 Point taken! Although I still really want her to make Treasure the same turn we play her, which is where Tinybones comes in handy. Lord Skitter is good at that too later in the game, Plunderer requires us to wait until our next upkeep. A cheap card like Relic of Progenitus would be perfect, but that one isn't in Standard.
Mardu is the only white I’ll play
12:45 u miss lethal there .Should have just kill the shepherd and go face down to 9 will archangel then hit them with the two plunderer.Since the seraph still alive and can't block the pluderers,it would have been 2+2+3+3=10=dead, with the 2 tap treasures that they can't sack
oh well i realize that someone already point it out in the comment:(
Non ho Capito Il momento in cui l'hai schiattata
game 1: playing vs an NPC
As a player of a version of this deck, I'd like to start by saying thanks for giving me some great ideas on how to lose to to the Esper Midrange deck, that dominates standard, more efficiently. What's the point in showcasing any deck against any other deck if there is one deck that can rule them all? Show me how these decks perform against the Raffine Esper Midrange deck and then I'll be impressed, or likely not. Not hating, your videos are great and I love you insights, but until I actually see you go up against a real deck, this is all just fluff.
Your cynicism is appreciated, but you might be getting things confused with traditional Standard. Esper sees very little play in the Best of One standard meta, sitting at around only 2,5% metagame share. Monored Aggro and Boros Convoke are the most played decks here, with roughly 30% metagame share combined and a much higher winrate than Esper.
Nice!