Is it just me or does it feel like there’s some intern who’s been turning up rag doll physics in the background waiting to see how high they can get before someone notices?
my Nintendo switch runs at about 30fps, and the ragdolls I have been blessed with is so unhinged. I died mid punch with Doom and absolutely soared through the sky of Colloseo.
Seeing these PC rag dolls I would love to see an April fools patch in the future where they tweak the force applied to final blows to the highest allowed settings and let the fun happen.
Imagine they added collision to the ragdolls with the added impact, if you killed someone with a widow headshot and they go flying into their team like a bowling ball 💀
Sometimes I'll be like "why am I going so hard in a quickplay game?" But I think it's actually just that I'll do stupid/risky stuff that I wouldn't do in comp and it works so I'll wipe a team and look like a qp tryhard while fully expecting to die at the beginning of the fight.
Then get stuck playing other hitscans like i played against the same guy 3 games in a row hed walk out on widow get diffed swap sombra then just hunt me on cd till i swapped
one of the funniest interactions for me is sombra vs torb, a lot of the time sombra players don't realize hacking my turret does NOTHING for them because i can literally just place another one down the moment they finish the hack. but they don't since they know im going to blow them up the moment they unstealth. you are better off just shooting the turret with virus and bursting it down without hacking it. so its just them hacking my turret, me just placing down another one, them hacking it again, me placing down another one. it amazes me that hacking a turret doesn't stop you from placing another one, since im pretty sure it used to be impossible but i think its kind of nessisary to keep torb as a soft counter to sombra.
I think there should be more punishment for counter swapping considering people keep swappin to where it just gets boring. I get its a game that is suppose to be adaptivity but at the same time it should also be about pure skill overall.
Why is no one asking why its more counter pick heavy? We didnt have counterwatch in ow1 nor did we have it for the first 3 or 4 seasons, weve had counterswapping but other things always over shadowed it. In ow1 we had more teambased skill, less power in one characters individual pick which made everyone able to at least somewhat pick what they wanted, as long as you could fill the role required of you on that team as that hero you could thrive, it wasnt ideal for player who wanted to play what they want but it at least worked. The start of ow2 they removed a tank without balancing anything which left some problems but for the most part it made heros who exceled with player skill to thrive which felt really nice snd if they wanted to have 5v5 balance thats the road they should have went down, but instead they balanced the same way they did in ow1 with 50/50 balance. Which is slowly making the game more team based without that tank, whicu you cant have diverse teams without that second tank so theyve watered down the team play and than balanced out skillcurves with 50/50 balance so whats that leave left for skill expression? Well it bascially only leaves counter swapping and hitting your shots and than we wonder why the games mostly just sit back and poke or counterswap 😂 I was against going back to 6v6, but after seeing how honestly bad these devs are at balance, giving theyre just lookiny at numbers, i think they should have just not touched the game, if youre not gonna balance your game properly for individual players like other games, you should have at least left it alone for the people who enjoy 6v6 because at this point no ones gonna be happy and the games gonna die because building your competitive game only around counterpicking is like trying to make a competitive rock paper scissors sport, who tf is gonna invest time into your game when its purely up to luck or knowing that rock beats scissors.
4:10 I've legitimately said, IN A DIAMOND COMP GAME, that I'm playing this like QP but casual. I feel so much less pain whenever I lose in comp than I do in QP, and it's actually gratifying to win. It hurts to write this out dude.
its not just streamers man, its counter and focus the threat. Just about every game I play, I start out crushing it on my own on JR, and by the end its genji/sombra/pharah ignoring my team and coming after me, while i get berated by my dpsing supports for having the nerve to ask for a heal. "It's just QP man, nobody cares" except the enemy team of course... also, over the course of the night I can totally feel the MMR changing it gets to a point where my plat ass is going up against masters with my randomly selected silver/gold team...
Wait..... so in EU we have to stay awake until midnight for the new battlepass release so you can have it start at 2pm in the US??? Why can't you just release in the morning :(
For some reason i fall asleep at 6am then wake up at 4pm and idk why doesnt matter if i go to bed early or not allways fall asleep at same time and wake up at same time
No Flats I still play Maui from Disney Moana on maps like Lijang Tower because I want to absolutely drain the existence and fun out of other people. New Year. Same Toxicity.
@LazTheTurtle please enlighten us on how to counter the invisible dive character with a 1 second death combo as a stationary sniper lady 😂 since you're CLEARLY far beyond any of us in skill level
Great content as always flats! As a fellow tank main, I'm now able to place rank with dps confidently! But how I do miss the old days with main tank and off-tank. Ggs!
I mean to be fair Sombra is literally designed to hunt widow. The real issue is that counterpicks are too easy to play, think Reaper into Winston or Bastion into basically any tank. Most counterpicks don't require the one counterpicking to express a high level of skill or competence on the hero they're counterpicking to which makes counterpicking the easier option. More broadly speaking tho the counterpick issue is largely a symptom of 5v5 which is why it manifests the most heavily in the tank role. In OW1 flats may have had a dva to peel/spycheck but 5v5 opened up the game so much that heros like Sombra essentially get to stage their engages for free. Also I think people need to get the idea out of their head that quick play is supposed to be "casual" they literally match you based on your skill anyways so of course you quick play games feel sweaty. The only real diffrence is that one mode gives you consequences and stakes for losing.
I disagree with your logic on qp. Just because I have a higher skill level doesn't mean I want all my games to be a sweatfest. The first month I played I already got placed in plat, which yeah isn't a very high rank but it's high enough for a newbie. How am I supposed to learn and get good at the game if everyone treats qp like it's a comp match? How am I supposed to learn new heroes if everyone's gonna accuse me of throwing because I'm doing bad? People who are good at the game also want to have a space to try new things or play less serious games, I believe that's what the point of qp is.
@@Liz-nz9bw I mean quick play is already less serious than comp in the sense that there are no stakes or consequences for losing. As far as learning new heroes and being accused of throwing, overwatch is an inherently competitive game so regardless of what game mode you're playing their is always going to be a crowd who is trying their best to win, unfortunately the best advice I can give you for people who hound you in quick play is just to ignore them and play what you want to play. I think the bigger issue is that the report system is so easy to abuse that you can just be trying things out in quick play and get mass reported for throwing which obviously isn't fair if your trying to learn a hero. Lastly games are always going to be sweaty as long as the game matches you based on skill combine this with the inherent competitiveness of overwatch and you get constant sweaty games in qp.
So I've been playing cross-play on console because my friend is on PC. I'll be honest it's been hell, people just being generally rude AF. I got skill issues, and normally I don't mind dying but it's just been bad game after bad game. It makes not wanna play but I've been making myself cause I genuinely enjoy the gameplay.
Nah he mentioned "nerfs" so this was right after they nerfed his fire and before they reversed that AND buffed the shit out of him for his comp debut. The win chasers are now only playing mogo
Thankfully not too many people have been playing Mauga in my games, probably because they don’t have fun playing him, or they know he’s just so stupid of a hero, and they don’t want to force a mauga 1v1 which just ruins the game
Or they just got bored. Mauga was flavour of the month tank hero. So now everyone's got their fill, they've likely returned to their favourite tanks instead.
Do you enjoy being competitive and sweating? Ranked is your calling Do you goof around or half ass your matches for fun? QP is your calling It's that simple
i swear theres something goong on in these quickplay lobbies or something man everyone is just so meta humpy and its super lame nowadays to play casually even
The answer is simple: 5v5 gameplay. Overwatch is generally poorly designed for solo potential. Especially w/ the lack of a real frontline like 6v6, it's why every role in the game feels weak against each other despite DPS/Healing being fundamentally overbuffed to compensate for what was ultimately a very predictable problem with the format. It's relevant becuase it directly feeds into toxicity around the game: Nothing feels truly impactful anymore. Cue the finger pointing and instant leavers as games in QP especially are won and lost within the first minute as bad positioning alone in 5v5 can completely kill momentum. Leaver penalties and staggered spawns were put into the game _specifically_ to try to enable the synergy that 6v6 brought with just a different gameplay loop to no avail. Now those people have no recourse to be anything less than either toxic or apathetic when _learning the game innately hurts the team, the Soldier standing in a corner at midrange is just as detrimental as the Soldier rushing the team from halfway across the map, and neither of them would be wrong to do so given how 5v5 is "meant" to be played._
Yeah, this type of stuff is bad in high level QP, especially for streamers who get singled out and hunted. In low ranks, however, it's all good. Even if someone counterswaps in gold, they're still a gold player and the fight is relatively even.
I dunno if I’m considered to be like diamond in quick play but gold on comp but I feel like in comp I commonly am one of the best players on my team but in quick play I feel like I’m sometimes getting carried by my team In quick play I’m getting counterswapped so often as a rein main by like Bastion and Mauga and Reaper but in comp, at least in gold, everyone just plays their favourite hero… SHOULDN’T IT BE THE ITHER WAY AROUD???
Me coming from a shooter background to this first person moba, I dont like the idea of swapping because doing so you just admit you are not as good so that you need to counter pick. They should limit the heroes you can choose to play in a game to 2.
These people go to quick play because they get rolled when playing against people in comp. It's a lot easier playing against people that are hardly trying and just trying to have fun.
i know counter swaping is a strategy, but some people take it way to far. thats what i like more about paladins then overwatch because in paladins you lock in 1 character and then you cant swap character to counter people. get a little sick of doing well in a game of overwatch just to have 3 people counter swap and beat my ass in to the ground.
I will never understand the whining about counter swapping. That's literally been part of the game since OW1 launched. It's just making strategic changes to win. My guess is people just get comfortable playing one or two characters and can't be bothered to learn others so they whine when that isn't good enough.
@@AlphaNinjaFTW1 are they not allowed to have fun playing the hero they like? Cause by swapping winston/sombra and hard focusing them, think thats fun? Its QP. Hell, pick up widow yourself and take the duel. I suck with her, but thats what ill usually do for fun. Feels even better when you occasionally pull it off
This could’ve been and off day, or maybe I’m crazy, but it feels like flats has less fun every upload. I don’t understand why people play games that frustrate them so much.
He's already retained an audience for THIS specific game unfortunately, his fanbase and aura aren't big enough for him to be less reliant on the games themselves yet
It's also funny to watch him scrape the barrel thinking people will actually watch his Tik Tok food react content exclusively becuase he's fat. Lying about PVE for a shit company got him here and I'm glad he's miserable for it now. He should quit and get a real job; It would be the first honest living Flats has made for himself his whole life.
I don't like how OW is so focused on counter-swapping. How do you get better? I'm primarily a fighting game gamer, and my current thing is Street Fighter 6. I can safely say I wouldn't be anywhere near my current 3 Star Diamond rank if I swapped off Kimberly everytime I faced a Ken. I lost ALOT at the start, but now much less. Coz I got better. Same thing with OW. I stick it out with Tracer/Sombra even through all the Torbjorns
So what I’m hearing is people complain when you counter swap and people complain when you don’t counter swap cool next time dva comes out I’ll just keep bastion and get better
This game gets annoying now ik how u feel flats I was playing last night against widows they lose one duel and they counter pick people are such sore losers
@@Makki4Nothing but...if the dva is destroying my team why wouldnt i switch to zarya? If the pharah is destroying my team why wouldnt i switch to a hitscan?
@@alegogo2911 If it's comp, it's fine imo. But it's qp, I'm not looking to get my buttcrack sweaty in qp. I'm trying to chill and have fun time playing my hero. Then the enemy team has the one dude's that is like "Oh no! My skill issue is starting to show! I must pick the hero that isn't softcounter... But I must take hardcounter"
i have no idea why countering is so villainised the whole point of the game was to switch if you are not able to play against a certain hero or if you are playing poorly with a certain hero. i feel like people who dont do that should be villainised. its not like overwatch has items that can improve a hero as you level up in a match or something. you are basicly saying they should surrenter to their fate and keep dieing instead of switching.
Not the issue. The issue is that I won ONE round as Junkrat and the next round the enemy team IMMEDIATELY swapped to PharahMercy. And in this video Flats wins ONE teamfight with Widow and the enemy team IMMEDIATELY swaps to Sombra 😂 there's the issue
@@noname-hf9ty you just described the video. flats was winning with mean the enemy realised they were dieing all the time they need to switch so they switched to something that will not die to him and also something like winston that can prevent widow damage. whats the problem in that? i am more mad that the hog did not switch and game his turret free rain to lay into him and the other in the second and third. you say thats the issue here as if they did something wrong and they should have just kept on dieing to the widow and not switched, its not like miraculously their skill will imrpove with that hero and they will start winning the game they have to switch.
The thing is counter sawping is ruining peoples fun in qp and try Harding to get the win just let me learn doom or ginje with out the the whole team countering me if I do decently well
@@Semi-Cyclops someone switching to a Winston or Dva to deal with a widow is not the issue, you're making false equivalenccies. Someone going the invisible dive character PURELY to oppress the enemy widow on cooldown and bully her into switching is the problem. Torbjorn doesn't hard counter Hog like Sombra does to Widow, hence why the hog didn't switch he probably just wanted to... Play HOG 🤯😳🤯😳 why does that get you mad? It's LITERALLY the casual mode where wins don't matter why is ANYONE playing hard counters and sweating their ass off to win in the first place. You can duel the widow in other ways, take a widow 1v1 for fun, pick Tracer and challenge yourself for some practice, pick a hitscan of your own and try to play the game around her, they had a roster of SEVENTEEN DPS characters and decided to pick the easiest hard counter that bullies and oppresses the enemy DPS what does that tell you?
@@noname-hf9ty i mean thats the play if that enemy widoes does not know how to play another hero i think thats on them and is not switching even though they are constantly dieing. i mean i would consider is a good compliment that the enemy team is hard countering me to the point they are focusing 2 people on me. i would imidiately switch to reaper to hard counter them then they switch go back to widow it would be stupid for me to keep playing widow when they are handing me 2 free kills on a silver platter by playing sombra and winston if i switch to reaper, i always scream out to my friends in happyness all the time that i litrally made them switch to counter me, even my friends do. i still dont get the argument of people should just lay down and take it. if diving the widow with 2 players is working and its also distracting the other teammates of the widow to also die its fine. its the widow who should switch because they are not contributing at that point.
I just dont get what the big deal is over counter swapping. Its was this overwatch mechanic that drew me to try the game. I like the chess match thats making me think in a fps and not like other mindless shooters. Still addicted to this game because of it.
Um, I swap sombra when I am losing widow duels because widow is one of my worst heroes and sombra is one of by better ones. Excuse people like us for trying something and then going back to our crutch. :-P
this guy plays one of the most boring characters to play against in quick play and wonders why he's being counter swapped, brother no one likes being oneshotted by widow, the game is automatically boring af when there's a widow in the game, of course you don't get to play widow the way you want, no ones gonna bend down and take the headshots, idc how bad you are at the character, just the probability of getting onetapped is enough to just put you in stress mode and then make a ton of different mistakes because of that and in turn get bored
"every game right now is chase the widow"... Bruh, you're playing widow, of course you're going to get bullied by winston and sombra. Especially when you have the accuracy of a gold player.
Is it just me or does it feel like there’s some intern who’s been turning up rag doll physics in the background waiting to see how high they can get before someone notices?
How violently you rag doll is relative to your fps, that’s why you see streamers with good gaming pc’s getting the rag dolls they do
@@lookatthetree978 neat! I didn’t know that
my Nintendo switch runs at about 30fps, and the ragdolls I have been blessed with is so unhinged. I died mid punch with Doom and absolutely soared through the sky of Colloseo.
I LOOOVE RAGDOLLS
I come from tf2 and omggggg the ragdolls make me so happy
Flats got some funny Ragdolls because of his code on ironside
"This is the first Mauga I've seen in a long time" - Famous last words
Also How old is this gameplay lol
@@katser5023 Going to assume it's before Dec 19th because he said "Everyone stopped playing Mauga after the nerfs"...
Aged like milk
@aeonamadi wat did they nerf?
1:24
Reinhardt: You can't stop me! I'm on fire!
*instantly dies*
"AAAAUUUGHHHH"
1:24 Reinhardt You can't stop me, I'm on fire!! Aaaahhhhhh (killed by Lifeweaver) what a voice line timing!! 🤣🤣
Best version of counter watch is when you dont have to change once but the enemies keep trying to figure out how to counter you and still loose
That keeps happening to me on doom. They always swap to hog or orisa and sombra but it never works
POV: Mauga
@@MothDaxTracer beams him.
That's sooooo good
It’s funny how his reaction of the dragon headshot was being for the fact that u have to point blank someone with the ult to get it is hilarious
Seeing these PC rag dolls I would love to see an April fools patch in the future where they tweak the force applied to final blows to the highest allowed settings and let the fun happen.
Imagine they added collision to the ragdolls with the added impact, if you killed someone with a widow headshot and they go flying into their team like a bowling ball 💀
Sometimes I'll be like "why am I going so hard in a quickplay game?" But I think it's actually just that I'll do stupid/risky stuff that I wouldn't do in comp and it works so I'll wipe a team and look like a qp tryhard while fully expecting to die at the beginning of the fight.
1:24 Reinhardt: You can't stop me, I'm on fire!!... Ahhhhhhh (killed by Lifeweaver). HAHHAHAHA!!!!!🤣🤣
“You can’t stop me I’m On Fire” - Rein Famous Last word before hearing a very loud AAAHHHHH *dead*
0:59 when flats starts shooting at the demons instead of the enemy
The Rein with the zoomies at the end there. I just died laughing.
Flats is going through what every widow main goes through
Deserved for playing widow,but yeah it sucks ngl.
Then get stuck playing other hitscans like i played against the same guy 3 games in a row hed walk out on widow get diffed swap sombra then just hunt me on cd till i swapped
what video were they talking abt😊
1:24 "You can't stop me! I'm on fire!"
Oh yeah?
1:25 I think someone stopped him
Dude I literally watched this get posted more or less. You love to see it
In console we call it “Ximwatch”.
It’s awful how many people xim in console qp
The day Blizzard does something about Ximming, I'll be ecstatic.
one of the funniest interactions for me is sombra vs torb, a lot of the time sombra players don't realize hacking my turret does NOTHING for them because i can literally just place another one down the moment they finish the hack. but they don't since they know im going to blow them up the moment they unstealth. you are better off just shooting the turret with virus and bursting it down without hacking it.
so its just them hacking my turret, me just placing down another one, them hacking it again, me placing down another one.
it amazes me that hacking a turret doesn't stop you from placing another one, since im pretty sure it used to be impossible but i think its kind of nessisary to keep torb as a soft counter to sombra.
I think there should be more punishment for counter swapping considering people keep swappin to where it just gets boring. I get its a game that is suppose to be adaptivity but at the same time it should also be about pure skill overall.
Why is no one asking why its more counter pick heavy? We didnt have counterwatch in ow1 nor did we have it for the first 3 or 4 seasons, weve had counterswapping but other things always over shadowed it.
In ow1 we had more teambased skill, less power in one characters individual pick which made everyone able to at least somewhat pick what they wanted, as long as you could fill the role required of you on that team as that hero you could thrive, it wasnt ideal for player who wanted to play what they want but it at least worked.
The start of ow2 they removed a tank without balancing anything which left some problems but for the most part it made heros who exceled with player skill to thrive which felt really nice snd if they wanted to have 5v5 balance thats the road they should have went down, but instead they balanced the same way they did in ow1 with 50/50 balance. Which is slowly making the game more team based without that tank, whicu you cant have diverse teams without that second tank so theyve watered down the team play and than balanced out skillcurves with 50/50 balance so whats that leave left for skill expression? Well it bascially only leaves counter swapping and hitting your shots and than we wonder why the games mostly just sit back and poke or counterswap 😂
I was against going back to 6v6, but after seeing how honestly bad these devs are at balance, giving theyre just lookiny at numbers, i think they should have just not touched the game, if youre not gonna balance your game properly for individual players like other games, you should have at least left it alone for the people who enjoy 6v6 because at this point no ones gonna be happy and the games gonna die because building your competitive game only around counterpicking is like trying to make a competitive rock paper scissors sport, who tf is gonna invest time into your game when its purely up to luck or knowing that rock beats scissors.
I'm team 6 Vs 6 from the beginning
people who think the preference for 6v6 is fueled by nostalgia are braindead and don't play the game.
4:10
I've legitimately said, IN A DIAMOND COMP GAME, that I'm playing this like QP but casual. I feel so much less pain whenever I lose in comp than I do in QP, and it's actually gratifying to win. It hurts to write this out dude.
its not just streamers man, its counter and focus the threat. Just about every game I play, I start out crushing it on my own on JR, and by the end its genji/sombra/pharah ignoring my team and coming after me, while i get berated by my dpsing supports for having the nerve to ask for a heal. "It's just QP man, nobody cares" except the enemy team of course... also, over the course of the night I can totally feel the MMR changing it gets to a point where my plat ass is going up against masters with my randomly selected silver/gold team...
Flats always delivers 🗣️🗣️🗣️
not flats claiming he's getting stream sniped instead of getting targeted for playing widow
I know this is more flats. But this Torb gameplay belongs on a Flatreon, Flatster, OnlyFlats. Now this is content!
Congratulations, you are being countered. You cannot resist.
Wait..... so in EU we have to stay awake until midnight for the new battlepass release so you can have it start at 2pm in the US??? Why can't you just release in the morning :(
For some reason i fall asleep at 6am then wake up at 4pm and idk why doesnt matter if i go to bed early or not allways fall asleep at same time and wake up at same time
No Flats I still play Maui from Disney Moana on maps like Lijang Tower because I want to absolutely drain the existence and fun out of other people.
New Year. Same Toxicity.
In my game, there was a ennemi pharas who saw me switch to soldier and she auto switch to counter me...
i didn't even left spawn.
3:00 Sombra says "Its nothing personal..." Flashback to the enemy Widow (now Sombra) getting shredded. Hmm, some how i think it is...
I remember one day that in qp i got counterswapped 5 games in a row.
I love playing widow but I always get counter-swapped and forced to play someone else
And it’s always sombra 🙄
Hope you do, cause your hero is some next-level corny ass BS
@LazTheTurtle please enlighten us on how to counter the invisible dive character with a 1 second death combo as a stationary sniper lady 😂 since you're CLEARLY far beyond any of us in skill level
@LazTheTurtle IQ -12 😂
17 months is almost a year, man!
The reason Flats got the headshot with dragon is by the mythic skin
Great content as always flats!
As a fellow tank main, I'm now able to place rank with dps confidently!
But how I do miss the old days with main tank and off-tank.
Ggs!
if im playin tank ill ask the enemy tank "i wont touch mauga if you dont" and they all say deal and the game ends up being so much more fun
wow, old stream clips had me thinking they already nerfed mauga
I mean to be fair Sombra is literally designed to hunt widow. The real issue is that counterpicks are too easy to play, think Reaper into Winston or Bastion into basically any tank. Most counterpicks don't require the one counterpicking to express a high level of skill or competence on the hero they're counterpicking to which makes counterpicking the easier option. More broadly speaking tho the counterpick issue is largely a symptom of 5v5 which is why it manifests the most heavily in the tank role. In OW1 flats may have had a dva to peel/spycheck but 5v5 opened up the game so much that heros like Sombra essentially get to stage their engages for free. Also I think people need to get the idea out of their head that quick play is supposed to be "casual" they literally match you based on your skill anyways so of course you quick play games feel sweaty. The only real diffrence is that one mode gives you consequences and stakes for losing.
I disagree with your logic on qp. Just because I have a higher skill level doesn't mean I want all my games to be a sweatfest. The first month I played I already got placed in plat, which yeah isn't a very high rank but it's high enough for a newbie. How am I supposed to learn and get good at the game if everyone treats qp like it's a comp match? How am I supposed to learn new heroes if everyone's gonna accuse me of throwing because I'm doing bad? People who are good at the game also want to have a space to try new things or play less serious games, I believe that's what the point of qp is.
@@Liz-nz9bw I mean quick play is already less serious than comp in the sense that there are no stakes or consequences for losing. As far as learning new heroes and being accused of throwing, overwatch is an inherently competitive game so regardless of what game mode you're playing their is always going to be a crowd who is trying their best to win, unfortunately the best advice I can give you for people who hound you in quick play is just to ignore them and play what you want to play. I think the bigger issue is that the report system is so easy to abuse that you can just be trying things out in quick play and get mass reported for throwing which obviously isn't fair if your trying to learn a hero. Lastly games are always going to be sweaty as long as the game matches you based on skill combine this with the inherent competitiveness of overwatch and you get constant sweaty games in qp.
Main reason I don’t play comp, qp is the same sweatiness and takes a 4th of the time lol
Flats was hitting those shots on hanzo so well *chefs kiss* he was just a bit too close and getting attention
This must be an old clip because Mauga hasn’t gotten his post holiday nerf yet lol
So I've been playing cross-play on console because my friend is on PC. I'll be honest it's been hell, people just being generally rude AF. I got skill issues, and normally I don't mind dying but it's just been bad game after bad game. It makes not wanna play but I've been making myself cause I genuinely enjoy the gameplay.
People basically agreed he's unfun to play with and against so everyone just decided he doesn't exist
Nah he mentioned "nerfs" so this was right after they nerfed his fire and before they reversed that AND buffed the shit out of him for his comp debut. The win chasers are now only playing mogo
@@RobABankWithABagel Yeah, I was confused for a bit when he mentioned Mauga nerfs until I thought about it a little. This is a relatively old vod.
It's funny that the QP looks more like a ranked match and the ranked match looks more like QP. I don't know why
New season? When?
What were the mauga nerfs?
Can't wait to see Freedo rebrand to Your Counterwatch
You gotta love in 1v1s you don’t really fear a tank
I mean, wasn't torb always good against hog?
@@ultrat8921 exactly?
Thankfully not too many people have been playing Mauga in my games, probably because they don’t have fun playing him, or they know he’s just so stupid of a hero, and they don’t want to force a mauga 1v1 which just ruins the game
Or they just got bored. Mauga was flavour of the month tank hero. So now everyone's got their fill, they've likely returned to their favourite tanks instead.
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolongor that yeah
To be fair to the Hog, he swapped to Hog on Ilios Well, so he probably swapped because of the map.
As a quickplay warrior will 1000 hours in it, should i try comp? Is it really less sweaty?
Do you enjoy being competitive and sweating? Ranked is your calling
Do you goof around or half ass your matches for fun?
QP is your calling
It's that simple
i swear theres something goong on in these quickplay lobbies or something man everyone is just so meta humpy and its super lame nowadays to play casually even
The answer is simple: 5v5 gameplay.
Overwatch is generally poorly designed for solo potential. Especially w/ the lack of a real frontline like 6v6, it's why every role in the game feels weak against each other despite DPS/Healing being fundamentally overbuffed to compensate for what was ultimately a very predictable problem with the format.
It's relevant becuase it directly feeds into toxicity around the game: Nothing feels truly impactful anymore. Cue the finger pointing and instant leavers as games in QP especially are won and lost within the first minute as bad positioning alone in 5v5 can completely kill momentum. Leaver penalties and staggered spawns were put into the game _specifically_ to try to enable the synergy that 6v6 brought with just a different gameplay loop to no avail.
Now those people have no recourse to be anything less than either toxic or apathetic when _learning the game innately hurts the team, the Soldier standing in a corner at midrange is just as detrimental as the Soldier rushing the team from halfway across the map, and neither of them would be wrong to do so given how 5v5 is "meant" to be played._
I just play ram, no seems to be able to stop me other than mauga+bastion
today i learned you can headshot with a dragon
1:20 It is I who dmg boosts the winton. My dps can't hit anything and monke go brr
Yeah, this type of stuff is bad in high level QP, especially for streamers who get singled out and hunted. In low ranks, however, it's all good. Even if someone counterswaps in gold, they're still a gold player and the fight is relatively even.
I dunno if I’m considered to be like diamond in quick play but gold on comp but I feel like in comp I commonly am one of the best players on my team but in quick play I feel like I’m sometimes getting carried by my team
In quick play I’m getting counterswapped so often as a rein main by like Bastion and Mauga and Reaper but in comp, at least in gold, everyone just plays their favourite hero…
SHOULDN’T IT BE THE ITHER WAY AROUD???
Me coming from a shooter background to this first person moba, I dont like the idea of swapping because doing so you just admit you are not as good so that you need to counter pick. They should limit the heroes you can choose to play in a game to 2.
Well, it's either swap to Sombra and try to kill you, or just keep getting headshot. It's not fun, I'm sorry.
Nah I rather tilt you out of your brain and force you on a hero your garbage at, it just feels better
Swap to Widow and duel or swap to Tracer and challenge yourself, why oppress the enemy widow with the invisible dive character
wait, did mauga get nerfed already?
No, people just choose not to play him so they can pretend Mauga isn't the blueprint for all future Tanks in 5v5. It's pretty sad honestly.
Love it when people counter switch only to get shit on by a teammate that counters them.. it’s like oh you didn’t think of that huh?
These people go to quick play because they get rolled when playing against people in comp. It's a lot easier playing against people that are hardly trying and just trying to have fun.
@Fultonian-ve1ibyeah the servers in AUSTRALIA 😂 most of the playerbase is in EU and NA dude
i know counter swaping is a strategy, but some people take it way to far. thats what i like more about paladins then overwatch because in paladins you lock in 1 character and then you cant swap character to counter people. get a little sick of doing well in a game of overwatch just to have 3 people counter swap and beat my ass in to the ground.
Welcome to every fucking widow player I diff
And before you say zero I'm actually decent
I will never understand the whining about counter swapping. That's literally been part of the game since OW1 launched. It's just making strategic changes to win. My guess is people just get comfortable playing one or two characters and can't be bothered to learn others so they whine when that isn't good enough.
eh, you can't get mad at someone going sombra when someone is playing widow, a widow who will just kill everyone without any pressure is annoying af.
But its QP.
and I like having fun not getting headshot by widow
@@AlphaNinjaFTW1 are they not allowed to have fun playing the hero they like? Cause by swapping winston/sombra and hard focusing them, think thats fun? Its QP. Hell, pick up widow yourself and take the duel. I suck with her, but thats what ill usually do for fun. Feels even better when you occasionally pull it off
@@sircoletrain8373I’ve given up. No one is gonna afford me the courtesy of taking the L so I’m not gonna do it either
@@sircoletrain8373 doesn't matter, and for the record, if the goal is to get better, kill the damn sombra, or it's a skill issue.
I mean, Counterwatch is not cringe; it is the most effective winning strategy in the game.
It's definitely cringe but also very effective
You definitely went straight for the rocket launcher in halo 2
Why do you care so much about winning in QuickPlay? 😂 The wins don't count just let people in the lobby play or practice the characters they want
@@ProjectPushupsJokes on you, I never played the sequel to Heaven.
Rock Paper Scissors is not an strategy
This could’ve been and off day, or maybe I’m crazy, but it feels like flats has less fun every upload. I don’t understand why people play games that frustrate them so much.
He's already retained an audience for THIS specific game unfortunately, his fanbase and aura aren't big enough for him to be less reliant on the games themselves yet
It's also funny to watch him scrape the barrel thinking people will actually watch his Tik Tok food react content exclusively becuase he's fat.
Lying about PVE for a shit company got him here and I'm glad he's miserable for it now. He should quit and get a real job; It would be the first honest living Flats has made for himself his whole life.
I don't like how OW is so focused on counter-swapping. How do you get better?
I'm primarily a fighting game gamer, and my current thing is Street Fighter 6. I can safely say I wouldn't be anywhere near my current 3 Star Diamond rank if I swapped off Kimberly everytime I faced a Ken. I lost ALOT at the start, but now much less. Coz I got better.
Same thing with OW. I stick it out with Tracer/Sombra even through all the Torbjorns
No no see that would entail engaging character design and Overwatch players only like to see win ticker go up, everything else is secondary
@@noname-hf9ty 🤣🤣 naaah u mean 🤣🤣
So what I’m hearing is people complain when you counter swap and people complain when you don’t counter swap cool next time dva comes out I’ll just keep bastion and get better
This game gets annoying now ik how u feel flats I was playing last night against widows they lose one duel and they counter pick people are such sore losers
I don't get how you play Widow and just expect the enemy team to just stand there and die. OF COURSE they will try something to fight you back.
8:07 they probably just wanted to sh1t on you, if they really wanted to counterswap to win, why anyone used bastion and mei?
and this is the average widow, and im being generous... People still want to nerf her....
People who counterswap in quickplay are grade A losers
I mean, isnt counterwatch the actual way to play the game?
Counterwatch is jst so useless in qp
@@Makki4Nothing but...if the dva is destroying my team why wouldnt i switch to zarya?
If the pharah is destroying my team why wouldnt i switch to a hitscan?
@@alegogo2911 If it's comp, it's fine imo. But it's qp, I'm not looking to get my buttcrack sweaty in qp. I'm trying to chill and have fun time playing my hero.
Then the enemy team has the one dude's that is like "Oh no! My skill issue is starting to show! I must pick the hero that isn't softcounter... But I must take hardcounter"
@@Makki4Nothing so you are part of the players who think "my fun over my team, even tho im getting hard countered and my team is getting fingered
@@alegogo2911 What?
"why wont they just let me roll them with Widow?!?"
Crazy how 6v6 would help solve this
Welcome to counterwatch, new to the game? Well gotta unlock charaters till then ur stuck as 2 choices per role
I cant take this mf serious no more lol
i have no idea why countering is so villainised the whole point of the game was to switch if you are not able to play against a certain hero or if you are playing poorly with a certain hero. i feel like people who dont do that should be villainised. its not like overwatch has items that can improve a hero as you level up in a match or something. you are basicly saying they should surrenter to their fate and keep dieing instead of switching.
Not the issue. The issue is that I won ONE round as Junkrat and the next round the enemy team IMMEDIATELY swapped to PharahMercy. And in this video Flats wins ONE teamfight with Widow and the enemy team IMMEDIATELY swaps to Sombra 😂 there's the issue
@@noname-hf9ty you just described the video. flats was winning with mean the enemy realised they were dieing all the time they need to switch so they switched to something that will not die to him and also something like winston that can prevent widow damage. whats the problem in that? i am more mad that the hog did not switch and game his turret free rain to lay into him and the other in the second and third. you say thats the issue here as if they did something wrong and they should have just kept on dieing to the widow and not switched, its not like miraculously their skill will imrpove with that hero and they will start winning the game they have to switch.
The thing is counter sawping is ruining peoples fun in qp and try Harding to get the win just let me learn doom or ginje with out the the whole team countering me if I do decently well
@@Semi-Cyclops someone switching to a Winston or Dva to deal with a widow is not the issue, you're making false equivalenccies. Someone going the invisible dive character PURELY to oppress the enemy widow on cooldown and bully her into switching is the problem. Torbjorn doesn't hard counter Hog like Sombra does to Widow, hence why the hog didn't switch he probably just wanted to... Play HOG 🤯😳🤯😳 why does that get you mad? It's LITERALLY the casual mode where wins don't matter why is ANYONE playing hard counters and sweating their ass off to win in the first place. You can duel the widow in other ways, take a widow 1v1 for fun, pick Tracer and challenge yourself for some practice, pick a hitscan of your own and try to play the game around her, they had a roster of SEVENTEEN DPS characters and decided to pick the easiest hard counter that bullies and oppresses the enemy DPS what does that tell you?
@@noname-hf9ty i mean thats the play if that enemy widoes does not know how to play another hero i think thats on them and is not switching even though they are constantly dieing. i mean i would consider is a good compliment that the enemy team is hard countering me to the point they are focusing 2 people on me. i would imidiately switch to reaper to hard counter them then they switch go back to widow it would be stupid for me to keep playing widow when they are handing me 2 free kills on a silver platter by playing sombra and winston if i switch to reaper, i always scream out to my friends in happyness all the time that i litrally made them switch to counter me, even my friends do. i still dont get the argument of people should just lay down and take it. if diving the widow with 2 players is working and its also distracting the other teammates of the widow to also die its fine. its the widow who should switch because they are not contributing at that point.
Counter strike 2 name applies more to overwatch 😅
Only time I swap is when I’m not a hitscan against a phara or echo since I play genji
Counter-swapping has become incredible cringy. Its a huge reason why comp shouldnt be taken seriously.
I just dont get what the big deal is over counter swapping. Its was this overwatch mechanic that drew me to try the game. I like the chess match thats making me think in a fps and not like other mindless shooters. Still addicted to this game because of it.
Flats in the defense of the sombra, i hate widows, they are my mainfocus too... the only counterswapping i do is against widows, mauga and hanzos
Hopefully we're seeing less Mauga because people realize how boring and lame he is.#ReplaceMauga
Hot take:Getting shot at by Mercy's pistol is insultingly disrespectful.
im a simple man... I see widow , I swap to sombra. ALWAYS
What a poossay
Um, I swap sombra when I am losing widow duels because widow is one of my worst heroes and sombra is one of by better ones. Excuse people like us for trying something and then going back to our crutch. :-P
@LazTheTurtle I mean... I just said I wasn't a widow main. So... sure?
this guy plays one of the most boring characters to play against in quick play and wonders why he's being counter swapped, brother no one likes being oneshotted by widow, the game is automatically boring af when there's a widow in the game, of course you don't get to play widow the way you want, no ones gonna bend down and take the headshots, idc how bad you are at the character, just the probability of getting onetapped is enough to just put you in stress mode and then make a ton of different mistakes because of that and in turn get bored
Qp? Don't Care.
"every game right now is chase the widow"... Bruh, you're playing widow, of course you're going to get bullied by winston and sombra. Especially when you have the accuracy of a gold player.
W flats 🫶