The facial animations add a lot, but I REALLY wish they kept this line from the OG In Water ending: "Now I understand. The real reason I came to this town. I wonder what was I afraid of?" Something about this line from the OG... it hit so hard when saying so little.
That seems too on the nose. That’s like saying “now I know why the red pyramid thing was chasing me. I’m actually evil and he was trying to punish me.”
@@eternallight523 He said "I know why I needed you. But I don't need you anymore." Pyramid heads are not James executioner. They're born from James psyche to fight off guilt and frustration. That's why they kill other monsters. That's why they repeatedly kill Maria too. And it's only when James proves he's ready to face his guilt and "don't need them anymore" that the Pyramids off themselves. This is also confirmed by Masahiro Ito as the true meaning of their existence. That 'punisher' thing is a misinterpretation by fans.
@@Thaibiohazard123 No, Ito has clearly stated that Pyramid Head is meant to make James FACE his guilt, not cover it up. He's restated this recently as well.
This was very well acted and beautifully shot, but I miss a line of dialogue from the original: “Now I remember why I came to this town”. It was a fantastic ending to the story, with James remembering that he actually came to Silent Hill, their special place, to end his own life.
In water was also the final, agreed upon ending by the development team, before they introduced multiple endings for the game. So in water is the canon, true ending for the game
Man. After the theory being around for 20 years and seeing this for the first time, that moment James’ eyes traveled up to the rear view mirror genuinely gave me chills.
I loved how as we are hearing the letter read by Mary as it’s floating from the bottom of Toluca lake that we get the impression that James never read it . Which makes the contents even more heartbreaking.
I'm not sure about that. Mary tells him in her letter to go on with his life but James says "I know this isn't what you'd want" in this ending, which could be a reaction to the letter.
@@FlashheadX you may be right about that too. I interpreted it as just an in general statement that he assumed with them being married and all that she would have wanted the best for him. Honestly that was just how I took it on my first playthrough. Either way I really liked this ending. It’s bittersweet but still very interesting
@@FlashheadXunfortunately the letter wasn't real. James never got to read it. Laura lost the letter in the hotel section, only the player knows the contents of it
This is not the bad ending. The actual bad endings are Maria and Rebirth. Many would consider the ‘In The Water’ to be the good ending or at least the neutral ending. Leave is the family friendly ending.
@@hellkisser Masahiro Ito (The designer and illustrator of the game) and Guy Cihi (James's original VA) both choose "In Water" as their personal canon ending, and honestly it simply fits the tone of the story and James's character better. Plus the fact that James's father appears in Silent Hill 4 and claims that James's disappeared in Silent Hill.
Great ending to a great game. One thing I do want to say, to get ahead of a lot of comments people have on this ending(which is a bit of an essay, so fair warning): Fans of the game often repeat this idea of "In Water" being the accepted canon ending. It isn't. There IS no canon ending. All the writers and devs deliberately leave it open ended, because they wanted people to just pick their preferred ending. Even if some of them have their preferred outcome, that doesn't make them more canon than the others. Far as I can tell, this is based largely on an interview with James' original VA saying he believes that the In Water ending is canon, the novelization using it as the basis for the ending, and it being the most common ending players get on a first playthrough (most people either get In Water or Leave). And while I fully concede that it IS a tragically beautiful ending that makes sense thematically, I'd argue ALL of the endings do this. One personal observation I have (I don't know if this is a common reading) is that the characters pulled into Silent Hill can represent the darker roads James can take at the end of his journey. All of them have one thing in common: they're killers, in some form of denial over what they've done. The town has summoned them for one reason: to force them to confront what they've done. How they respond to it... well, that's up to them. To me, Eddie represents the Maria ending. He comes to terms with his crimes, but he has taken the wrong lesson out of it. Once Eddie accepts the things he's done, he decides that it wasn't so bad, and that the people he hurt deserved it. He doesn't need forgiveness, he was right all along. Similarly, the Maria ending is James taking the wrong lesson out of Mary's death. Yes, that he was wrong to kill her, but also that replacing her with Maria will make everything better. It shows no matter what, just like Eddie, James will never truly learn from his mistakes, and is always doomed to repeat them. Angela, on the other hand, represents the In Water ending. Angela confronted the reality of what she had done, but in the end, it breaks her. She loses her will to live, convinces herself that she deserved to be abused, she deserved to be punished, and she deserves the torment that Silent Hill is putting her through. She's not in denial, like Eddie, but her pain completely consumes her. Which reflects James' In Water ending: he confronts the reality of what he has done, but when it's all over, he just can't move on. He can't forgive himself. The pain and guilt is just too much for him to overcome. He'd rather die than keep living in a world where Mary is dead because of him. That''s why I think there's a good case for the Leave ending being my preferred one. Because it's James finding the path forward that neither Eddie nor Angela could find. Confronting his sins, facing them head on, and accepting them. He can't change the past, he can never forget what he's done, but that doesn't mean he can't have a future where he can honor his late wife in his own way. It also plays into the concept of Silent Hill that I like the most: the town isn't TRYING to kill these people, necessarily. But it IS testing them. If you fail (whether by deluding yourself like Eddie, or succumbing to your pain like Angela), you'll never leave Silent Hill alive. But if you can face your own personal hell and accept your sins while refusing to be crushed by them, the town will let you go, with a new purpose in your life.
I get that not a lot of people have played SH4, but it also kind of implied the In Water ending is canon as James' dad is in it and he confirms James is missing. 4 was the last game Team Silent worked on IIRC and is linked to 2 (Walter Sullivan and James' father being the landlord). This is another reason the fanbase accepts the In Water ending as canon and I wish more people were aware of that :/
I think if you’re in a good marriage or long term relationship this ending is so real and easy to empathize with. I’m married to someone that I love and care about deeply, and we have a great relationship, similar to what James and Mary seemingly had before her illness. If something similar happened to my partner and I, where that illness tore apart everything we had and I did something as terrible as James did in a moment of emotional distress, I wouldn’t know how to live with myself anymore or even think I’m worthy of it.
It's not impulsive, it's premeditated. Unfortunately, he'd planned to kill himself afterwards too. He gets the chance to not do that in the game, to not feel guilty because she releases him of the guilt. But throughout the entire run, James clearly has a death wish, and portraying himself to himself as someone who killed his wife would mean that killing himself won't make her angry. It would be fair, so it won't upset her. But, she sees right through that..
Mary: I want you to live for yourself and be happy James James: Guess I’ll drown Yeah the canon ending is Leave and I refuse to change my mind, but the shot of the letter floating in the lake is so sad and haunting, excellent remake!
@@reese8050 no its not. He said it’s his fav not that it’s canon. He specifically said that anyone can choose their ending. If you want to go into it then yes it is canon in the novel. The game no. But most team silent devs believe it would be the most likely canon.
Never notice how they descended in certain parts of Hell: Eddy Ice (Froze to death by hiding in the fridge); Angela Fire (House Fire); James Water (died by diving into lake), which is how they all ended up in Silent Hill (Hell by their sin of killing people or Sudoku). The other ending options is up to players choice because well he's dead and that's that.
Just finished the game today, this is my ending. Really depressed, but in my opinion it's the true ending. (This credit song is amazing, just loved it!)
In water hit me hard, while Leave is the best ending for James to live, In Water hits me so hard. The fact that James while he killed Mary to ease her but for his own reasons is bad, he still loved her. Mary wanted him to live but how can you when your husband or wife is your soulmate, I don’t think James is suicidal in the end just he can’t do the day to day of living knowing he can’t even be with Mary again. Especially in the remake James decision hits hard for me
This also fits the narrative the most. Before the fight with Eddie, James was in a cemetery where there were 3 dug graves, for James, Angela and Eddie. Eddie obviously died, Angela's last conversation seemed like she wanted to die and James ends up the same way.
I got the ending after finishing the game myself today. Don't feel trolled it's not the bad ending. It's more of the neutral ending. I didn't even try to get a specific ending I just played the game and like you I tried to conserve healing as well. I also picked the man coin at the bar at the beginning of the game. I heard that has something to do with it depending on what coin you choose in the puzzle.
James never killed his wife. Maria had a terminal illness, and she also fought, pushed James away and treated him badly. James's action was an action so that she would not suffer anymore, he feels guilty for making that decision that was not his. This ending is bad, James could never relieve that torturous guilt like the ending 'leaving'
He planned the whole thing though, he was gonna kill her per her request, and then kill himself. That's why they had the OG fight where he came in to reconcile with the flowers, she asked him and he turned her down when she did. But then he thought she won't have it any other way. So...
Really disappointed to not see the bedside conversation in the remake. Part of what made the ending great in the original was the subtle differences in what he said to Mary in the leave ending and in water ending. I really want to like it, but I feel they did a disservice to this ending by taking out such a large portion of it. I feel like there is so much potential here, but they felt the need to remove some of the ending for no real reason. Realistically feel like the leave ending is the only ending they kept intact in the remake.
Mary in the in water ending says “It’s enough, James.” almost as if she is giving him permission to end his life. In the leave ending she says “Please do something for me… go on with your life.” encouraging him to find meaning elsewhere and continue without her. Both very heart wrenching lines that work perfect within the context of their respective conclusions.
Well if you want her to interact with James the Stillness ending seems to be more fitting since in this one here it's just in your face that she is dead and laying on the backseats of James's Car. I think it's even more impactful that Mary wasn't there.
The real disservice is how much this delivery falls flat compared to Monica's performance in the original. This sounded like I was watching a movie or a TV show, the original sounded like someone was pouring their heart out in a letter.
@@RichtofensLittleGirl I’ll admit that this version of the ending has a lot of intrigue with the visual representation of Mary in the backseat. That being said, she is still very much dead in the backseat in the original. Also Mary is “not there” regardless if he speaks to her. I’d also say that just telling someone essentially that if they don’t like it they should just get a secret new game plus ending is silly. Stillness is a fascinating ending but certainly not giving anywhere near the same feeling as the original in water ending. It also lacks the letter read off which is what drives home the tragedy of James killing himself. And yes, I realize James choosing not to read it is an intentional part of Stillness end. Either way I am glad you found enjoyment out of the remake’s interpretation. While I don’t think the ending completely missed the mark, it was the first ending I got years and years ago. Simply put it didn’t resonate with me nearly as much on a personal level in this remake.
@@MagnyusG I agree. The original does very well as displaying the ups and downs of her emotions and attempts to hold back tears. I am overall pretty neutral on the remake’s read off, but it certainly didn’t have me breaking down crying like the original.
In Water is my favorite ending imo. James' journey was never about redemption rather it was about him uncovering the truth and accepting what he did to Mary. My interpretation of the story is James kills Mary due to the reasons listed in the Leave ending and takes her to Silent Hill to put her to rest. However after doing the deed he feels overwhelming guilt and regret. This combined with the supernatural powers of Silent Hill causes him to enter a delusion that Mary died 3 years ago. As James uncovers the truth, he realizes that what he did to Mary was a mistake and he can't live on without her despite being completely responsible. He joins her in death in their special place as he drives into the lake. Also theres a lot of clues that point to In Water as canon (even though technically there is no canon ending). 1. James' dead body is seen all over Silent Hill 2. A lot of the otherworld areas are flooded 3. The constant dialogue with Angela where James says he would never commit suicide is supposed to be ironic and tragic as at that point he still is oblivious to killing Mary.
I think "In Water" is the one in which James loves Mary most and finally saves himself from the endless guilty feeling. Actually I like Maria pretty much, and think she deserves a true happy ending. But "Maria" Ending is so horrible that James escaped from his '心魔' and nothing is not solved at all.
My friend and I both did our play throughs together at the same pace so we’d see what endings we both get, he got the ‘leave’ ending and I got this one... I had to mute my mic I couldn’t contain myself
In water ending is my favorite ending but this is too subtle compare to the original silent hill 2 which is more emotionally charged. I really loved stillness ending the most.
Its not in your opinion, its confirmed by the developers of the OG that this is the canon ending and his wife was on the backseat all the time. The real reason he came to silent hill was to kill himself.
yeah, James father in silent hill 4 told Henry his son and daughter-in-law went to silent hill and never came back, further prove in water ending is true, even his father didn't know his daughter-in-law already a corpse taken by James. James killed Maria and drown with Mary in the end, sad story.
@@kurusuakira6891 No it isn't. The developers saying that In Water is the canon ending is a common misconception. They've said that it is their preferred ending, NOT that it is the canon ending. There is no canon ending.
@@Ak1rahh This old theory talked about the fact that James had all along brought his wife's remains with him to Silent Hill to commit suicide with her presence, sinking into the depths of Lake Toluca, together. In the In Water ending of the remake, we see that the theory has been canonized: If you look closely in the back seats, there is Mary's coffin stored.
That's an interesting interpretation. Like he decided to move on but he left his wife's body behind? I kind of like that idea, but do you mind explaining how you came to that conclusion, because I didn't see it that way the first time round.
@@swordhunter12 correct! If you watch the stillness ending, once it blacks out you'll hear a moment where the car door opens, and the car gets launched. Alluding that James stepped out before launching it into the lake.
@@feels5460 😧wow! Going to start new game plus. I'll look for that in the beginning. I played the original, loved it. And I love this one too. Lol in the original game I always got the leave ending
@@christined1988 Gonna start as well! The original was a little before my time but I discovered it last year and fell in love. The leave ending is really nice, my favorite ending was the water one. Anyways have fun, its cool noticing the small details that bloober added
It's weird that the Stillness Ending including going into the water but not this. They really should have had just mixed them both into the In Water Ending. Splitting them is weird, especially since they end the same way. The crying is amazing in the Stillness, but it's not complete without this. Really weird move.
Disagree. In water ending shows James in his truly depressed, hopeless state, unable to even let it out and cry, then the audio implies he offed himself. Whereas the stillness ending, he's a lot more emotional and was able to let it out when Mary spoke to him, and the audio implies he got out of the car and sent her to Toluka Lake, asking her just before if she "would wait for him". The second ending implies that James decided to fulfill her last wish and live for her and start forgiving himself, the first one implies he died and is buried with her in the lake.
От меня ушла любовь всей моей жизни , Мария, из за обстоятельств в которые мы попали , я стал вести себя плохо , срываться на неë. Больше еë не вернуть. В каком то смысле я "убил" Ту Машу , ту которая любила меня ... До сих пор переживаю , а играл в ремейк в самые тяжолые моменты , ещë имя совпадает... Кароче я плакал
This is NOT the bad ending, it’s the best ending, the most emotional and fits the themes of the game. The remake captures this ending so much better than the original.
It's so bittersweet but it just feels...mentally this was the cannon choice,he comes to terms with the truth , and fits the whole depressing tone of the game...although the escape ending is a pretty close second for me.
@JustLunarr that's the Stillness Ending. It's a new ending where the audio implies james gets out of the car while sending Mary to her watery sentimental grave, their special place that is Toluca Lake. James emotional behavior is very repressive during the In Water ending but in the Stillness ending you got he just pours his emotions and guilt out. Which means he put Mary to rest and may be open to forgiving himself.
I got this ending today. I guess I didn’t heal enough or looked at Mary’s picture 1 too many times? Regardless, I started new game plus and found it interesting that in the book store you can find three books that basically tell you how to lead a healthy life, manage your relationships, and what to do if you feel depressed. I don’t believe those are in the “standard” version of the game, only in new game plus. Regardless, I wonder if different books appear based on what ending you got before. Like, does silent hill know James came here once, and is it trying to force James to properly reconcile with his mistakes? Is it saying that suicide was not the answer in the Leave Ending, and to try again? Regardless, I don’t much care for how the endings work in the game. They seem very random and don’t illustrate well how the character interacted with the world. Still a great game, though
Just today finished the game and got that ending. This war my 1st time when I played Silent Hill game and it was awesome. If you still thinking should you buy remake or not i'll say - buy. Bloober team did great job and I hope they'll get work on another SH parts. But I should warn you that game has lack of an optimization i got around 50-60 fps on gtx1660ti
you sure this is bad ending? I think it's the logic ending and this what I get also. Compared to other endings, this is the best and most realistic one.
so many strange guys say about ito's opinion on his favourite ending. but they forget that original writer was owaku, not ito. and owaku has never stated that in water is canon ending
I believe this is the saddest ending but not a bad one. The bad ones imo are "Maria" and "Bliss". Rebirth is also just plain delusion from James. " Stillness" is also sad but it's just a little bit better because he survives and believes that Mary is waiting for him happily on the other side.
For the new fans out there. If you wonder why many of the og fans prefer and consider the In Water ending as their favorite they're not referring to this ending, they're referring to the original In Water. They're both different. I won't get into details and make an essay here but you can go watch the og In Water and see and compare it by yourself.
I'm here because there are theory that said this game is sort of sequel from the original game Idk why, but after seeing UFO ending and this ending, i can kinda see it
Dude the line "you made me happy" is such a let down in this version. In the og sh2, that same line made me bawl. The letter itself is also shorter and doesn't really give off the same sense of despiration that maria had either. Still a stellar game, but the remake is a little weaker, I think.
Even though it’s considered the “bad ending”, many consider this the actual canon ending as this was James’ reason for traveling to Silent Hill in the first place.
Was aiming for the in water ending and kinda disappointed how it plays out along with the letter. Insane they removed the scene of James talking to Mary on her death bed. Should’ve also just played the original letter reading as there was no way of capturing what the original actress did and even then the performance is still underwhelming here. The only time I haven’t gotten emotional from this sequence.
As much as I wish James could get a happy ending, I can see why many prefer to consider this as canon... cause it's the most realistic one and probably the best one for poor James at this point. I don't think one can just "Oh no Anyway" their way out of a situation like that of James's anymore and continue life after
Bloober Team did an excellent job crafting subtlety into what's going on in this ending. It's implied, but never truly shown outside of a brief out of focus glimpse; the way a Silent Hill game should be! Bravo 👏
I wanted to get this ending so bad, I got the Maria ending by mistake and it is so fucking anticlimatic, I wish I got this since it has the full letter at the end, the reasoning to get each ending is so dumb, how does using a game mechanic make me get the worse ending thematically?
Just finished this game and got this ending. Honestly, I don't know how though. I met more of the parameters for the standard ending than I did this ending, but oh well.
Just finished the remake and got this ending. When I heard the remake Mary read the letter it didn't make me much emotional. As she read the letter I remembered how the OG Mary read the letter and that made me almost burst into tears again but when I focused on the remake monologue again my emotions disappeared. I'm kinda dissapointed from this ending.
The end note confuses me. She says she wrote the letter and if James was reading it, then it meant she'd died because she told the nurse to give it to him then. So..... How did HE kill her?
He never got the letter, it was Laura who brought it to Silent Hill. I personally think that after he killed Mary, he planned to take Mary's body to Silent Hill to commit suicide. But whether it was the guilt of killing or the love for Mary that drove him to do this, he didn't know, and he was in a state of confusion. And when he came to Silent Hill, he was impressed. Silent Hill showed him part of the letter. He confusedly thought that he came to Silent Hill because he received the "letter".
I got this ending and I always kept myself healed up, checked on Maria alot and only inspected the knife once. Swear to God. This is the first Silent Hill game I've ever played. I didn't even know about the different endings and how to get them.
i cant say that this works for certain but it did for me: check the knife, letter, the photo and the handkerchief continuously at different points in the game. also take all of the damage you can in the last fight until you run out of healing items
I managed to get the ending by reloading the final save and doing everything you've said, on the same save file I got the Leave ending. Maybe try using the Rusty Egg door after the double pyramid head fight if you've been using Amber, that could be it
While this ending is good, it completely makes the entire course of the game pointless. Silent Hill literally tried teaching James a lesson, that he didnt learn in the end. Accepting reality and coming to terms with the guilt does not mean offing yourself. James not killing himself doesnt mean he wasnt accepting responsibility. He accepted his actions the second he watched that tape. Even then, he came to silent hill to kill himself (which was established in the original version) which means he accepted his actions with his decisions to go. The town purposed lead him on this path. Same with eddie and Angela. He failed to learn with this ending. Personally i believe In Water is still best fitting for a darker story, but Leave makes sense given the entire purpose of the towns message to james.
Just finished the game hoping to get this ending but got leave instead :( to me leave is the bad ending and this is cannon. I just dont like the idea of james getting redemption after murder.
Just finished the game and got this ending. I really enjoyed the game but I felt like the ending was insanely rushed. You kill Maria and then bam you’re in the car and kill yourself. By the end of the game, you get a sense that James is getting over the idea of ever seeing Mary so to go from him finally seeming to move on to teleporting to him committing suicide to be with her is jarring. Maybe if they had a transition in his psyche earlier or even added an extra scene, it would’ve made more sense. Because the way it stands now, it feels empty and forced rather than deserved
I don't think that's right. James went to silent hill because apart of him was still clinging onto something. As the original voice actor said, if james really planned on killing himself, he wouldn't have travelled all the way to silent hill.
@@Terry-nx8kg The game has multiple endings, which was made by the creators so you can CHOOSE which ending you want for James. They never labeled anything as the TRUE ending. So if you're asking "does truth doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things", why would YOU say this is the True Ending? You're not smart bro, and you won't ever be by pretending on the internet. It just makes you a clown.
If you inspect Angela’s knife several times, read most of the suicidal notes you find around the town (neely’s bar Otherworld), and stay injured for half of the game then you’ll get this ending
Out of all the endings, this was probably the only “good” one (that wasn’t a joke one). He doesn’t deserve to just walk away. He deserves more, and since there’s not an ending where he goes to the police and turns himself in, this is the only one where he doesn’t get to feel better about things and walk away. Hell, most other endings he comes off as a total a-hole as well.
You have to heal a lot, almost immediately. I never let my health get to danger and I got Leave. Then I reloaded my save to before the pyramid boss fight, examined the knife, letter, photo and handkerchief a bunch of times, let my health get to danger and let it stay there after the pyramid head boss fight, and I got In water haha.
So yeah "I've done a terrible thing to you" What do you guys think that was about? Because that was not the yelling at him... It was something much darker. And then she goes on to explain why "I feel so pathetic and ugly" "Lying here, staring at the cracks in the ceiling". Yeah...
I got so mad i got this ending on first try and hardly checked the knife. I thought it wad maybe because I killed yoo many enemies.......or kept being them on the ground like they owed me money.
Where do you all guys see James ends his own life? Am I so dumb since everyone sees what I can't? He runs his car, the screen fades, and the wheels squeaking. HE GOES AWAY FROM SH WITH MARY's CORPSE IN HIS CAR! WHERE YOU ALL SEE HIM DYING IN THIS ENDING?!?!?!?! WHERE?!?!?!?!
I guess it's because suicide in western countries is considered taboo no matter the reasoning. Japan has a different view of it. Isn't it called seppuku? I think after all the craziness he went through in Silent Hill, it would have broken him into this point anyway.
You say bad ending but this ending is almost universally agreed to be the "cannon ending" even if there really isn't one. This ending not only makes the most sense thematically and tonally, its in my opinion the most satisfying albeit sad ending to James' story. Spoilers.... Mary's dead body is in the back seat of James' car under a blanket.... He came to Silent Hill to die.
The reading of the letter doesn't have the same emotional impact the OG does (still to this day), but it was still overall a great game and a worthy remake.
Yeah James probably means she was dead to him 3 years ago when her illness started. He did the deed recently which explains why he's in silent hill. Idk i kinda dig the old version of the story since it made James seem more proactive in trying to figure out how he got a letter from his dead wife years after her passing. This remake version just makes him more schizo.
@@magplay15 yeah, I am agreeing with you. What you told might be true, we don't if he committed suicide or want to get rid of the body to destroy the evidence
Dude. Can we please stop saying this. In sh4 they mention they haven't come back from SH but it can mean multiple things. either he went to escape. or the dad is also in SH thats why he hasn't seen them.
@@troyb4533 No it doesn't. Him going into hiding could also fit into later "hints" regarding Jame's fate. SH2 doesn't have a canon ending and this has been validated by both Guy Cihi and Ito.
@@alx2903 If the MAIN creator of this game,CONFIRMS that it's canon,then its CANON. Dont give that "novella" bs,I'm talking about games. And what about SH3,SH4? Did they straight up said that "hey,you know James is dead actually"?
@@alx2903 I understand the game,I played it,and I know that a lot people really wish this ending was canon because it's tragic and shit,but just because they want it to be canon,doesnt mean it is.
@@alx2903 Oh yes, the devs, who have famously insisted for _two decades_ that all of the endings are to be considered equally canon. It's perfectly fine to consider In Water the most fitting ending- it's an opinion shared by many people, including many of the devs themselves- but to claim the devs consider it "canon" is just factually wrong.
@@Nigel222 And it doesnt make any sense,why even play the game if he still just ends it all in the end? It seems they just made it for shock value more then anything.
@@PsevdonimKanalaNahuy They didn't make it for shock value, this is one of the original endings in the original game from 2001. Even if you ask the original voice actor/mocap performer, Guy Cihi, this is the canon ending. It's around the 14:00 mark: ua-cam.com/video/rhyT4gjDHM8/v-deo.html
The facial animations add a lot, but I REALLY wish they kept this line from the OG In Water ending: "Now I understand. The real reason I came to this town. I wonder what was I afraid of?"
Something about this line from the OG... it hit so hard when saying so little.
It's The way he says it for me
That seems too on the nose. That’s like saying “now I know why the red pyramid thing was chasing me. I’m actually evil and he was trying to punish me.”
@@Slaughter_Hill He...he literally said that he knew exactly why they existed and that he wanted to be punished.
Literally the fight against the 2...
@@eternallight523 He said "I know why I needed you. But I don't need you anymore."
Pyramid heads are not James executioner. They're born from James psyche to fight off guilt and frustration. That's why they kill other monsters. That's why they repeatedly kill Maria too. And it's only when James proves he's ready to face his guilt and "don't need them anymore" that the Pyramids off themselves. This is also confirmed by Masahiro Ito as the true meaning of their existence. That 'punisher' thing is a misinterpretation by fans.
@@Thaibiohazard123 No, Ito has clearly stated that Pyramid Head is meant to make James FACE his guilt, not cover it up. He's restated this recently as well.
This was very well acted and beautifully shot, but I miss a line of dialogue from the original: “Now I remember why I came to this town”. It was a fantastic ending to the story, with James remembering that he actually came to Silent Hill, their special place, to end his own life.
I remember I got In water when I played it back in 2002, and just thinking Holy Hell, and being blown away.
In water was also the final, agreed upon ending by the development team, before they introduced multiple endings for the game. So in water is the canon, true ending for the game
Man. After the theory being around for 20 years and seeing this for the first time, that moment James’ eyes traveled up to the rear view mirror genuinely gave me chills.
So she was in the trunk huh
@tennoo160 backseat. And hacking the camera has proven she's literally there covered by a blanket.
@@placebo4573 I need to see evidence of this.
@@Terry-nx8kg 1:44 ?
@@Terry-nx8kgCheck the silent hill subreddit, dude freecamed into backseat and there was blanket with something underneath it
The blank stare before James starts his engine is haunting, like he’s finally made up his mind on what he’s about to do.
I loved how as we are hearing the letter read by Mary as it’s floating from the bottom of Toluca lake that we get the impression that James never read it . Which makes the contents even more heartbreaking.
Why didn’t James read it in this ending ??
I'm not sure about that. Mary tells him in her letter to go on with his life but James says "I know this isn't what you'd want" in this ending, which could be a reaction to the letter.
@@FlashheadX you may be right about that too. I interpreted it as just an in general statement that he assumed with them being married and all that she would have wanted the best for him. Honestly that was just how I took it on my first playthrough.
Either way I really liked this ending. It’s bittersweet but still very interesting
It creates this notion that he only read what he wanted to read.
@@FlashheadXunfortunately the letter wasn't real. James never got to read it. Laura lost the letter in the hotel section, only the player knows the contents of it
This is not the bad ending. The actual bad endings are Maria and Rebirth. Many would consider the ‘In The Water’ to be the good ending or at least the neutral ending. Leave is the family friendly ending.
In Water ending is the realisitc ending
Its the canon ending for majority of players(even there are no official canon ending), so I agree it is not the Bad Ending
@@hellkisser Il était venu pour ça au départ...
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Masahiro Ito (The designer and illustrator of the game) and Guy Cihi (James's original VA) both choose "In Water" as their personal canon ending, and honestly it simply fits the tone of the story and James's character better.
Plus the fact that James's father appears in Silent Hill 4 and claims that James's disappeared in Silent Hill.
@@mrtyrant1680 personal canon ending obviously, not the official true canon ending
Great ending to a great game. One thing I do want to say, to get ahead of a lot of comments people have on this ending(which is a bit of an essay, so fair warning):
Fans of the game often repeat this idea of "In Water" being the accepted canon ending. It isn't. There IS no canon ending. All the writers and devs deliberately leave it open ended, because they wanted people to just pick their preferred ending. Even if some of them have their preferred outcome, that doesn't make them more canon than the others.
Far as I can tell, this is based largely on an interview with James' original VA saying he believes that the In Water ending is canon, the novelization using it as the basis for the ending, and it being the most common ending players get on a first playthrough (most people either get In Water or Leave). And while I fully concede that it IS a tragically beautiful ending that makes sense thematically, I'd argue ALL of the endings do this.
One personal observation I have (I don't know if this is a common reading) is that the characters pulled into Silent Hill can represent the darker roads James can take at the end of his journey. All of them have one thing in common: they're killers, in some form of denial over what they've done. The town has summoned them for one reason: to force them to confront what they've done. How they respond to it... well, that's up to them.
To me, Eddie represents the Maria ending. He comes to terms with his crimes, but he has taken the wrong lesson out of it. Once Eddie accepts the things he's done, he decides that it wasn't so bad, and that the people he hurt deserved it. He doesn't need forgiveness, he was right all along. Similarly, the Maria ending is James taking the wrong lesson out of Mary's death. Yes, that he was wrong to kill her, but also that replacing her with Maria will make everything better. It shows no matter what, just like Eddie, James will never truly learn from his mistakes, and is always doomed to repeat them.
Angela, on the other hand, represents the In Water ending. Angela confronted the reality of what she had done, but in the end, it breaks her. She loses her will to live, convinces herself that she deserved to be abused, she deserved to be punished, and she deserves the torment that Silent Hill is putting her through. She's not in denial, like Eddie, but her pain completely consumes her. Which reflects James' In Water ending: he confronts the reality of what he has done, but when it's all over, he just can't move on. He can't forgive himself. The pain and guilt is just too much for him to overcome. He'd rather die than keep living in a world where Mary is dead because of him.
That''s why I think there's a good case for the Leave ending being my preferred one. Because it's James finding the path forward that neither Eddie nor Angela could find. Confronting his sins, facing them head on, and accepting them. He can't change the past, he can never forget what he's done, but that doesn't mean he can't have a future where he can honor his late wife in his own way. It also plays into the concept of Silent Hill that I like the most: the town isn't TRYING to kill these people, necessarily. But it IS testing them. If you fail (whether by deluding yourself like Eddie, or succumbing to your pain like Angela), you'll never leave Silent Hill alive. But if you can face your own personal hell and accept your sins while refusing to be crushed by them, the town will let you go, with a new purpose in your life.
That's beautiful
Dude, you should be a writer or something. Its not often i read a long comment but yours are really interesting and intriguing
You nail it Austin 👏😊 cheers my dude 🍻
I’ve read this 10x. Not one or two TEN BRO!! This was so well written!! I love it!!!
I get that not a lot of people have played SH4, but it also kind of implied the In Water ending is canon as James' dad is in it and he confirms James is missing. 4 was the last game Team Silent worked on IIRC and is linked to 2 (Walter Sullivan and James' father being the landlord). This is another reason the fanbase accepts the In Water ending as canon and I wish more people were aware of that :/
I think if you’re in a good marriage or long term relationship this ending is so real and easy to empathize with. I’m married to someone that I love and care about deeply, and we have a great relationship, similar to what James and Mary seemingly had before her illness. If something similar happened to my partner and I, where that illness tore apart everything we had and I did something as terrible as James did in a moment of emotional distress, I wouldn’t know how to live with myself anymore or even think I’m worthy of it.
It's not impulsive, it's premeditated.
Unfortunately, he'd planned to kill himself afterwards too.
He gets the chance to not do that in the game, to not feel guilty because she releases him of the guilt.
But throughout the entire run, James clearly has a death wish, and portraying himself to himself as someone who killed his wife would mean that killing himself won't make her angry.
It would be fair, so it won't upset her. But, she sees right through that..
@@samf.s.7731I see your points but I think this is also subjective enough of a game where speaking is such absolutions just feels…I dunno. A lot.
Mary: I want you to live for yourself and be happy James
James: Guess I’ll drown
Yeah the canon ending is Leave and I refuse to change my mind, but the shot of the letter floating in the lake is so sad and haunting, excellent remake!
Im pretty sure in water ending James doesn’t get to read it thats why in the other endings he leaves because he read it.
It's canon actually, according to Masahiro Ito. In Water ending is canon.
@@reese8050 no its not. He said it’s his fav not that it’s canon. He specifically said that anyone can choose their ending. If you want to go into it then yes it is canon in the novel. The game no. But most team silent devs believe it would be the most likely canon.
@@schizomani4c SH4 also implies In Water is the canon ending as James' dad confirmed he's missing. That was the last game made by Team Silent, so.
@@sugarysweet07 it implies it yes wish I believe it to be.
I feel like this ending fits so much especially with how we see Jame’s grave too
Never notice how they descended in certain parts of Hell: Eddy Ice (Froze to death by hiding in the fridge); Angela Fire (House Fire); James Water (died by diving into lake), which is how they all ended up in Silent Hill (Hell by their sin of killing people or Sudoku). The other ending options is up to players choice because well he's dead and that's that.
Sounds like it tho, maybe, still think the Silent Hill happens in James had before he "chooses" (player) does choose actual ending
Just finished the game today, this is my ending. Really depressed, but in my opinion it's the true ending. (This credit song is amazing, just loved it!)
It's a really depressing ending though.
In water hit me hard, while Leave is the best ending for James to live, In Water hits me so hard. The fact that James while he killed Mary to ease her but for his own reasons is bad, he still loved her. Mary wanted him to live but how can you when your husband or wife is your soulmate, I don’t think James is suicidal in the end just he can’t do the day to day of living knowing he can’t even be with Mary again. Especially in the remake James decision hits hard for me
Agreed 😢
I got this ending first because I used survival horror instincts and conserved healing items until I absolutely needed them. I feel a tad bit trolled.
This also fits the narrative the most. Before the fight with Eddie, James was in a cemetery where there were 3 dug graves, for James, Angela and Eddie. Eddie obviously died, Angela's last conversation seemed like she wanted to die and James ends up the same way.
I admired angela’s knife
I got the ending after finishing the game myself today. Don't feel trolled it's not the bad ending. It's more of the neutral ending. I didn't even try to get a specific ending I just played the game and like you I tried to conserve healing as well. I also picked the man coin at the bar at the beginning of the game. I heard that has something to do with it depending on what coin you choose in the puzzle.
I would've done the same thing if I was in James' shoes. How can a man live with himself after snuffing out his sick wife?
James never killed his wife. Maria had a terminal illness, and she also fought, pushed James away and treated him badly. James's action was an action so that she would not suffer anymore, he feels guilty for making that decision that was not his. This ending is bad, James could never relieve that torturous guilt like the ending 'leaving'
@@IA.M3gan I think maybe I'm projecting a bit here because I've almost driven into the local harbour a few times.
@@Terry-nx8kg Don't let anyone deceive what you think is wrong or right. If you feel like it is the truth for you.
She basically asked for it to end and she was cruel and hostile to James.
He planned the whole thing though, he was gonna kill her per her request, and then kill himself.
That's why they had the OG fight where he came in to reconcile with the flowers, she asked him and he turned her down when she did.
But then he thought she won't have it any other way. So...
Really disappointed to not see the bedside conversation in the remake. Part of what made the ending great in the original was the subtle differences in what he said to Mary in the leave ending and in water ending. I really want to like it, but I feel they did a disservice to this ending by taking out such a large portion of it. I feel like there is so much potential here, but they felt the need to remove some of the ending for no real reason. Realistically feel like the leave ending is the only ending they kept intact in the remake.
Mary in the in water ending says “It’s enough, James.” almost as if she is giving him permission to end his life. In the leave ending she says “Please do something for me… go on with your life.” encouraging him to find meaning elsewhere and continue without her. Both very heart wrenching lines that work perfect within the context of their respective conclusions.
Well if you want her to interact with James the Stillness ending seems to be more fitting since in this one here it's just in your face that she is dead and laying on the backseats of James's Car.
I think it's even more impactful that Mary wasn't there.
The real disservice is how much this delivery falls flat compared to Monica's performance in the original. This sounded like I was watching a movie or a TV show, the original sounded like someone was pouring their heart out in a letter.
@@RichtofensLittleGirl I’ll admit that this version of the ending has a lot of intrigue with the visual representation of Mary in the backseat. That being said, she is still very much dead in the backseat in the original. Also Mary is “not there” regardless if he speaks to her.
I’d also say that just telling someone essentially that if they don’t like it they should just get a secret new game plus ending is silly. Stillness is a fascinating ending but certainly not giving anywhere near the same feeling as the original in water ending. It also lacks the letter read off which is what drives home the tragedy of James killing himself. And yes, I realize James choosing not to read it is an intentional part of Stillness end.
Either way I am glad you found enjoyment out of the remake’s interpretation. While I don’t think the ending completely missed the mark, it was the first ending I got years and years ago. Simply put it didn’t resonate with me nearly as much on a personal level in this remake.
@@MagnyusG I agree. The original does very well as displaying the ups and downs of her emotions and attempts to hold back tears. I am overall pretty neutral on the remake’s read off, but it certainly didn’t have me breaking down crying like the original.
In Water is my favorite ending imo. James' journey was never about redemption rather it was about him uncovering the truth and accepting what he did to Mary.
My interpretation of the story is James kills Mary due to the reasons listed in the Leave ending and takes her to Silent Hill to put her to rest. However after doing the deed he feels overwhelming guilt and regret. This combined with the supernatural powers of Silent Hill causes him to enter a delusion that Mary died 3 years ago. As James uncovers the truth, he realizes that what he did to Mary was a mistake and he can't live on without her despite being completely responsible. He joins her in death in their special place as he drives into the lake.
Also theres a lot of clues that point to In Water as canon (even though technically there is no canon ending).
1. James' dead body is seen all over Silent Hill
2. A lot of the otherworld areas are flooded
3. The constant dialogue with Angela where James says he would never commit suicide is supposed to be ironic and tragic as at that point he still is oblivious to killing Mary.
I think "In Water" is the one in which James loves Mary most and finally saves himself from the endless guilty feeling. Actually I like Maria pretty much, and think she deserves a true happy ending. But "Maria" Ending is so horrible that James escaped from his '心魔' and nothing is not solved at all.
They should have kept the original credit songs for each ending, as well as the image of James and the replay of various scenes from the game.
My friend and I both did our play throughs together at the same pace so we’d see what endings we both get, he got the ‘leave’ ending and I got this one... I had to mute my mic I couldn’t contain myself
In water ending is my favorite ending but this is too subtle compare to the original silent hill 2 which is more emotionally charged. I really loved stillness ending the most.
In my opinion, this is the canon ending... It really fits the whole narrative of the game.
Its not in your opinion, its confirmed by the developers of the OG that this is the canon ending and his wife was on the backseat all the time. The real reason he came to silent hill was to kill himself.
@@kurusuakira6891And this is the ending selected for the official novel too
yeah, James father in silent hill 4 told Henry his son and daughter-in-law went to silent hill and never came back, further prove in water ending is true, even his father didn't know his daughter-in-law already a corpse taken by James. James killed Maria and drown with Mary in the end, sad story.
@@kurusuakira6891 No it isn't. The developers saying that In Water is the canon ending is a common misconception. They've said that it is their preferred ending, NOT that it is the canon ending. There is no canon ending.
@@HaiYu0 Not necessarily, since James going missing could also imply he's on the run from the police, not that he died.
The most oldest theory of Silent Hill 2 have been canonized. Woaw.
Wait how if you don’t mind explaining? 😭
@@Ak1rahh
This old theory talked about the fact that James had all along brought his wife's remains with him to Silent Hill to commit suicide with her presence, sinking into the depths of Lake Toluca, together. In the In Water ending of the remake, we see that the theory has been canonized: If you look closely in the back seats, there is Mary's coffin stored.
@@Shub-Nagruth it's not even a theory though, it has always been the truth...Masahiro Ito confirmed it on is twitter...
@@Shub-Nagruth This was confirmed back in 2015
if you look at his eyes, he looks at the back seat while talking to Mary. there's a blanket there covering Mary's body.
So there's no dialogue with Mary after the boss fight? It's not seen when he carry her out of her bed?
Yeah. But here it implies that the Mary's body was actually in the trunk or backseat the whole time.
@hajfjhxcjthats the water ending in the original.
@hajfjhxcjUnfortunately he doesn’t carry her out anymore.
@@ismaill-0819The backseat, according to Team Silent.
They keep it in the Leave ending but in this ending he doesn’t get that closure
Stillness ending seems the best option. He doesn’t kill himself, but also launches the car into the lake.
That's an interesting interpretation. Like he decided to move on but he left his wife's body behind?
I kind of like that idea, but do you mind explaining how you came to that conclusion, because I didn't see it that way the first time round.
@@swordhunter12 correct! If you watch the stillness ending, once it blacks out you'll hear a moment where the car door opens, and the car gets launched. Alluding that James stepped out before launching it into the lake.
The story made me cry. It's so depressing.
I just did my first play through and got this ending. When James looks at the back seat, is Mary supposed to be there? 😧
She is there you can see a glimpse
If you pay attention at the start of the game, you can actually see a large blanket covering "something" in the back seat
@@feels5460 😧wow! Going to start new game plus. I'll look for that in the beginning. I played the original, loved it. And I love this one too. Lol in the original game I always got the leave ending
@@christined1988 Gonna start as well! The original was a little before my time but I discovered it last year and fell in love. The leave ending is really nice, my favorite ending was the water one. Anyways have fun, its cool noticing the small details that bloober added
There’s so many things that show this is the case. Like when Laura’s birthday was. It was just three days prior to them being there in Silent Hill.
It's weird that the Stillness Ending including going into the water but not this. They really should have had just mixed them both into the In Water Ending. Splitting them is weird, especially since they end the same way. The crying is amazing in the Stillness, but it's not complete without this. Really weird move.
it does include driving and going into the water, a lot of these ending videos cut it
Disagree. In water ending shows James in his truly depressed, hopeless state, unable to even let it out and cry, then the audio implies he offed himself. Whereas the stillness ending, he's a lot more emotional and was able to let it out when Mary spoke to him, and the audio implies he got out of the car and sent her to Toluka Lake, asking her just before if she "would wait for him". The second ending implies that James decided to fulfill her last wish and live for her and start forgiving himself, the first one implies he died and is buried with her in the lake.
От меня ушла любовь всей моей жизни , Мария, из за обстоятельств в которые мы попали , я стал вести себя плохо , срываться на неë. Больше еë не вернуть. В каком то смысле я "убил" Ту Машу , ту которая любила меня ... До сих пор переживаю , а играл в ремейк в самые тяжолые моменты , ещë имя совпадает... Кароче я плакал
This was a fantastic remake.
This is NOT the bad ending, it’s the best ending, the most emotional and fits the themes of the game.
The remake captures this ending so much better than the original.
It's so bittersweet but it just feels...mentally this was the cannon choice,he comes to terms with the truth , and fits the whole depressing tone of the game...although the escape ending is a pretty close second for me.
Not a bad ending but depression ending.
It's the true ending. Fits perfectly with James' psyche.
@@Terry-nx8kg I just finished the game, I saw a streamer I watch get a different ending where he talks to his wife. What is that considered?
@JustLunarr that's the Stillness Ending. It's a new ending where the audio implies james gets out of the car while sending Mary to her watery sentimental grave, their special place that is Toluca Lake.
James emotional behavior is very repressive during the In Water ending but in the Stillness ending you got he just pours his emotions and guilt out. Which means he put Mary to rest and may be open to forgiving himself.
Probably the most cannon ending. It's worse than the leave & stillness ending but better than the Maria ending
@@DevlMayDutch I can see the idea but its really just a variation of in water.
The way he is looking back says that her corpse lied right on the Backseat. Insane game 10/10
I got this ending today. I guess I didn’t heal enough or looked at Mary’s picture 1 too many times? Regardless, I started new game plus and found it interesting that in the book store you can find three books that basically tell you how to lead a healthy life, manage your relationships, and what to do if you feel depressed. I don’t believe those are in the “standard” version of the game, only in new game plus. Regardless, I wonder if different books appear based on what ending you got before. Like, does silent hill know James came here once, and is it trying to force James to properly reconcile with his mistakes? Is it saying that suicide was not the answer in the Leave Ending, and to try again?
Regardless, I don’t much care for how the endings work in the game. They seem very random and don’t illustrate well how the character interacted with the world. Still a great game, though
Just today finished the game and got that ending. This war my 1st time when I played Silent Hill game and it was awesome. If you still thinking should you buy remake or not i'll say - buy. Bloober team did great job and I hope they'll get work on another SH parts. But I should warn you that game has lack of an optimization i got around 50-60 fps on gtx1660ti
you sure this is bad ending? I think it's the logic ending and this what I get also. Compared to other endings, this is the best and most realistic one.
James suffering expressions on this breaked my heart... even i know what he did... his story with Mary is just so sad
new maria's delivery on the word "unfair" reminds me on new james "ridiculous" delivery, great work
so many strange guys say about ito's opinion on his favourite ending. but they forget that original writer was owaku, not ito. and owaku has never stated that in water is canon ending
I believe this is the saddest ending but not a bad one. The bad ones imo are "Maria" and "Bliss". Rebirth is also just plain delusion from James. " Stillness" is also sad but it's just a little bit better because he survives and believes that Mary is waiting for him happily on the other side.
For the new fans out there. If you wonder why many of the og fans prefer and consider the In Water ending as their favorite they're not referring to this ending, they're referring to the original In Water. They're both different. I won't get into details and make an essay here but you can go watch the og In Water and see and compare it by yourself.
I played this game so long ago and can't remember killing her. Kind of shocked.
This does not hit nearly as hard as the original, but I really enjoy James' delivery before driving off.
I'm here because there are theory that said this game is sort of sequel from the original game
Idk why, but after seeing UFO ending and this ending, i can kinda see it
there's no bad or good ending in this game, all the three original ending are fit to the story, so people don't lose heart if you got any of them
Peak voice acting and animation, this was the best ending imo
Not ever story has a happy ending and sometimes the truth hurts but nevertheless it’s what’s right for James story
Dude the line "you made me happy" is such a let down in this version. In the og sh2, that same line made me bawl. The letter itself is also shorter and doesn't really give off the same sense of despiration that maria had either. Still a stellar game, but the remake is a little weaker, I think.
first time getting this ending!! it was so beautiful.
Even though it’s considered the “bad ending”, many consider this the actual canon ending as this was James’ reason for traveling to Silent Hill in the first place.
Was aiming for the in water ending and kinda disappointed how it plays out along with the letter.
Insane they removed the scene of James talking to Mary on her death bed.
Should’ve also just played the original letter reading as there was no way of capturing what the original actress did and even then the performance is still underwhelming here. The only time I haven’t gotten emotional from this sequence.
As much as I wish James could get a happy ending, I can see why many prefer to consider this as canon... cause it's the most realistic one and probably the best one for poor James at this point. I don't think one can just "Oh no Anyway" their way out of a situation like that of James's anymore and continue life after
I got this ending in my first playthrough, it felt sad.
Bloober Team did an excellent job crafting subtlety into what's going on in this ending. It's implied, but never truly shown outside of a brief out of focus glimpse; the way a Silent Hill game should be! Bravo 👏
This ending is one of the saddest endings I've even seen in a game! And the letter slowly flowing down makes it worse!
For me this is the best ending maybe yes it's tragic but this is more realistic than the other endings.
I wanted to get this ending so bad, I got the Maria ending by mistake and it is so fucking anticlimatic, I wish I got this since it has the full letter at the end, the reasoning to get each ending is so dumb, how does using a game mechanic make me get the worse ending thematically?
Just finished this game and got this ending. Honestly, I don't know how though. I met more of the parameters for the standard ending than I did this ending, but oh well.
Just finished the remake and got this ending. When I heard the remake Mary read the letter it didn't make me much emotional. As she read the letter I remembered how the OG Mary read the letter and that made me almost burst into tears again but when I focused on the remake monologue again my emotions disappeared. I'm kinda dissapointed from this ending.
The end note confuses me. She says she wrote the letter and if James was reading it, then it meant she'd died because she told the nurse to give it to him then. So..... How did HE kill her?
He never got the letter, it was Laura who brought it to Silent Hill. I personally think that after he killed Mary, he planned to take Mary's body to Silent Hill to commit suicide. But whether it was the guilt of killing or the love for Mary that drove him to do this, he didn't know, and he was in a state of confusion. And when he came to Silent Hill, he was impressed. Silent Hill showed him part of the letter. He confusedly thought that he came to Silent Hill because he received the "letter".
I really recommend getting the Stillness ending if you haven't. Earn it through the game, don't watch it online.
I can not for the life of me get this ending. I limped the whole game, spam inspected the knife, never checked on Maria once. I’m so perplexed
It sounds like you did everything right so it’s weird you didn’t get it.
I got this ending and I always kept myself healed up, checked on Maria alot and only inspected the knife once. Swear to God. This is the first Silent Hill game I've ever played. I didn't even know about the different endings and how to get them.
@@MartianOrion it’s crazy because a lot of people are saying they got that ending without even trying and I’ve been actively trying with no luck
i cant say that this works for certain but it did for me: check the knife, letter, the photo and the handkerchief continuously at different points in the game. also take all of the damage you can in the last fight until you run out of healing items
I managed to get the ending by reloading the final save and doing everything you've said, on the same save file I got the Leave ending. Maybe try using the Rusty Egg door after the double pyramid head fight if you've been using Amber, that could be it
While this ending is good, it completely makes the entire course of the game pointless. Silent Hill literally tried teaching James a lesson, that he didnt learn in the end. Accepting reality and coming to terms with the guilt does not mean offing yourself. James not killing himself doesnt mean he wasnt accepting responsibility. He accepted his actions the second he watched that tape. Even then, he came to silent hill to kill himself (which was established in the original version) which means he accepted his actions with his decisions to go. The town purposed lead him on this path. Same with eddie and Angela. He failed to learn with this ending.
Personally i believe In Water is still best fitting for a darker story, but Leave makes sense given the entire purpose of the towns message to james.
Laura's reaction: 🥳🥳🥳
Just finished the game hoping to get this ending but got leave instead :( to me leave is the bad ending and this is cannon. I just dont like the idea of james getting redemption after murder.
Very interesting when you realise his wifes corpse is on the back seat and he looks straight at it.
Just finished the game and got this ending. I really enjoyed the game but I felt like the ending was insanely rushed. You kill Maria and then bam you’re in the car and kill yourself. By the end of the game, you get a sense that James is getting over the idea of ever seeing Mary so to go from him finally seeming to move on to teleporting to him committing suicide to be with her is jarring. Maybe if they had a transition in his psyche earlier or even added an extra scene, it would’ve made more sense. Because the way it stands now, it feels empty and forced rather than deserved
This is the true ending. James travelled to Silent Hill to kill himself. It was always going to end this way for him.
I don't think that's right. James went to silent hill because apart of him was still clinging onto something. As the original voice actor said, if james really planned on killing himself, he wouldn't have travelled all the way to silent hill.
Not even remotely true. Stop stating your opinions as facts
@@jethrojacinto2798 What is truth? More importantly, does truth matter in the grand scheme of things?
@@Terry-nx8kg The game has multiple endings, which was made by the creators so you can CHOOSE which ending you want for James. They never labeled anything as the TRUE ending. So if you're asking "does truth doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things", why would YOU say this is the True Ending? You're not smart bro, and you won't ever be by pretending on the internet. It just makes you a clown.
@@Terry-nx8kg No, but you said it's the truth.
How else got this ending on its first play? I don’t know what I did in order to get this one instead of Leave.
If you inspect Angela’s knife several times, read most of the suicidal notes you find around the town (neely’s bar Otherworld), and stay injured for half of the game then you’ll get this ending
Out of all the endings, this was probably the only “good” one (that wasn’t a joke one). He doesn’t deserve to just walk away. He deserves more, and since there’s not an ending where he goes to the police and turns himself in, this is the only one where he doesn’t get to feel better about things and walk away. Hell, most other endings he comes off as a total a-hole as well.
As much as it pains to say it, to me this is the canon ending
I got the Maria ending and I don’t even know how I did that 😭
Best ending.
This is not the bad ending man, this is the best ending
Way better than the Maria ending. I think the good ending is leave, but this one is more cannon
That's subjective
@@Alexander-zt9kz even rebirth is better than Maria ending
This is bad ending..bc best ending is def atone for what u did n pay for all ur crime😂
@@ichi127kyu but this ending is James paying for his crimes no?
@Dan Allen, why do you consider this ending to be the bad one when so many others don't?
Not sure what i did but i got this ending for the first time lol, i dont even inspect Angela's Knife
You have to heal a lot, almost immediately. I never let my health get to danger and I got Leave. Then I reloaded my save to before the pyramid boss fight, examined the knife, letter, photo and handkerchief a bunch of times, let my health get to danger and let it stay there after the pyramid head boss fight, and I got In water haha.
This is the best ending.
So Mary’s body is on the backseat after all.. creepy.
Fuck i got this ending
So yeah
"I've done a terrible thing to you"
What do you guys think that was about? Because that was not the yelling at him...
It was something much darker.
And then she goes on to explain why
"I feel so pathetic and ugly"
"Lying here, staring at the cracks in the ceiling".
Yeah...
I got so mad i got this ending on first try and hardly checked the knife. I thought it wad maybe because I killed yoo many enemies.......or kept being them on the ground like they owed me money.
Where do you all guys see James ends his own life? Am I so dumb since everyone sees what I can't? He runs his car, the screen fades, and the wheels squeaking. HE GOES AWAY FROM SH WITH MARY's CORPSE IN HIS CAR! WHERE YOU ALL SEE HIM DYING IN THIS ENDING?!?!?!?! WHERE?!?!?!?!
At 2:06 you can hear a massive splash of water, which implies that James must have drove into the lake
Ryan Gosling
This is the in the middle ending, maria is worse.
I guess it's because suicide in western countries is considered taboo no matter the reasoning. Japan has a different view of it. Isn't it called seppuku? I think after all the craziness he went through in Silent Hill, it would have broken him into this point anyway.
True ending.
You say bad ending but this ending is almost universally agreed to be the "cannon ending" even if there really isn't one. This ending not only makes the most sense thematically and tonally, its in my opinion the most satisfying albeit sad ending to James' story.
Spoilers....
Mary's dead body is in the back seat of James' car under a blanket.... He came to Silent Hill to die.
Yep.
There was new it call stillness james and mary talk together
The reading of the letter doesn't have the same emotional impact the OG does (still to this day), but it was still overall a great game and a worthy remake.
did he really died ? or he jumped out of the car and just drowned the body to hide the evidence
1:35 he is looking behind at Mary's dead body so, that means he didn't killed her 3 yrs ago instead he killed her few days ago😅😅😅😅
Yeah James probably means she was dead to him 3 years ago when her illness started. He did the deed recently which explains why he's in silent hill.
Idk i kinda dig the old version of the story since it made James seem more proactive in trying to figure out how he got a letter from his dead wife years after her passing. This remake version just makes him more schizo.
That could be james out of the car before get into water. You can hear he was opened the car's door
This is just my opinion haha
I think it’s him shifting gear
you know what i thought for a sec that what you said might be true maybe he wanted get rid of the body like drown the body with car and he doesnt
@@kaworu8040 he turned on the car and make it high speed and jump out of the car's door and let the body drowned with the car. That's what i mean 😅
@@magplay15 yeah, I am agreeing with you. What you told might be true, we don't if he committed suicide or want to get rid of the body to destroy the evidence
What is the name of background music? I can't find it
So…it must really stink in that car right?
What happens to Laura in this specific Ending?
The ambient music is so unnecessary. Just let it play in silence like the original.
this is legit my only problem with the entire remake. the spooky music TOTALLY ruins the vibe.
This is the canon ending (not the bad ending).
SH3 & 4 confirms James is missing, It's also the one in the novel.
Not canon, just the favorite ending. There’s no canon ending to SH2
@@TheShockVox it is the ending that best fits the references and insinuations of later games and media.
Dude. Can we please stop saying this. In sh4 they mention they haven't come back from SH but it can mean multiple things. either he went to escape. or the dad is also in SH thats why he hasn't seen them.
@@troyb4533 No it doesn't. Him going into hiding could also fit into later "hints" regarding Jame's fate. SH2 doesn't have a canon ending and this has been validated by both Guy Cihi and Ito.
Wasnt confirmed,so not canon.
For people saying that its a "canon" ending: It's not. No one confirmed that it's canon.
SH3, SH4, devs and novella, sure 😂. Some people rerally dont understand the game.
@@alx2903 If the MAIN creator of this game,CONFIRMS that it's canon,then its CANON. Dont give that "novella" bs,I'm talking about games. And what about SH3,SH4? Did they straight up said that "hey,you know James is dead actually"?
@@alx2903 I understand the game,I played it,and I know that a lot people really wish this ending was canon because it's tragic and shit,but just because they want it to be canon,doesnt mean it is.
@@alx2903 Oh yes, the devs, who have famously insisted for _two decades_ that all of the endings are to be considered equally canon.
It's perfectly fine to consider In Water the most fitting ending- it's an opinion shared by many people, including many of the devs themselves- but to claim the devs consider it "canon" is just factually wrong.
The UFO ending is the canon, it connects all games.
Calling this a bad ending is more of an opinion rather than a fact.
Its not a good ending.
@@PsevdonimKanalaNahuy he's ending his suffering
@@Nigel222 Or he can live with the guilt and redeem himself by raising Laura.
@@Nigel222 And it doesnt make any sense,why even play the game if he still just ends it all in the end? It seems they just made it for shock value more then anything.
@@PsevdonimKanalaNahuy They didn't make it for shock value, this is one of the original endings in the original game from 2001. Even if you ask the original voice actor/mocap performer, Guy Cihi, this is the canon ending.
It's around the 14:00 mark:
ua-cam.com/video/rhyT4gjDHM8/v-deo.html
Is not the bad ending lmao, is the real ending