One of the most profound statements off all time for me was “you don’t own the patent to cancer”. I’ve read all your books and watched your pieces. You’ve balls of steel Mr Kimmage. I’m sure Armstrong sees you in his nightmares. Don’t make men like you anymore
Total respect to Paul for the way he has endured over the years, and still is. Comes over as a person who talks a lot and says a lot whereas others (Roach inc) talk a lot and say nothing.
His book is outstanding. I read it in 1999…after that I was still completely taken in by Lance Armstrong like I think (almost) everybody was. Paul Kimmage is the real hero in all this.
I read "Rough Ride" in 1990. I knew Armstrong doped from his 1999 on... people argued with me endlessly. Once Armstrong finally admitted his doping, everyone of them just said, "well they all do it... I knew it all along".
Great documentary. I really wasn't prepared for the hilarity of Kimmage's road rage on the Alpe with his wife back at the dining table, out of the way.
It is telling that Roche and others reacted as he did when not specifically mentioned. Sometimes you recognize yourself in the words and narratives of others, and are compelled to 'shoot from the hip'.
Great documentary although i found sad the scene at the end when Kimmage sees Roche at the finish of the tour and reminisces about how they were once great friends
13:30. “Lance Armstrong was the most successful cyclist of all time…”. What!! Even if Armstrong’s record had stood, there would still be the little matter of a certain Mr. Merckx truly being the greatest of all time….he won grand tours, innumerable classics, six days and the hour record. A MUCH more complete record than Armstrong’s!
I can’t watch cycling anymore, I lost faith in it at the end of the Hinault era. Drugs, deals, politics and graft had always been a part of cycling, but before the big players in money started taking over it was at least an option for bit players to take a win, once that was gone it was like watching Groundhog Day always the same players winning on an too frequently basis. Once the money was available for the elite sports chemists to be hired and the likes of EPO came on the scene, the game was up. Most of the drugs up to that point were available to almost all, and shock horror a clean rider still had a chance to win or place. At that stage I could still watch it. I don’t hold it against Kelly for not speaking publicly about it, after all his livelihood would have been comprised, but surely he could have let it be known to Paul privately that he secretly agreed, same for Roche. I think after reading Laurent Fignons book young and carefree, I realised the game was up. I feel for Floyd Landis, he won using the same substance that those before and after got away with. Although I still rate him as a human and an achiever anyway, and he seems like a regular guy. I just watch tours from before the 90s there’s enough on you tube to keep me going for quite some time.
Two things. Chris Frooms response sounds a lot like Armstrong's response when pushed. "Just nothing but hard work". As far Walsh saying he was basically living with Team Sky for 7 weeks so they are probably clean. In 2001 Paul Sherwin was basically living with the US Postal team before the TDF and they were doped to the gills...
49 minutes the way that Britain reporter that had asked the hard question was outside saying sorry to the rider says alm thats wrong with reporter's now.
if pro cycling is clean..then the tour would be slower, times would decrease, climbs would have men blowing up and stopping. it hasnt its got faster and faster.
It's not the cyclists by themselves for God's sake. It's inbuilt into our societies and therefore in our minds. Competition rules, from Kindergarten into the grave. See it in yourself. Doping is part of our systemic fault.
Contentious subject, for sure. Many factors involved, that influences, our own decisions taken. Is it a simple "Yes or No" scenario ? This is a question, that will outlast my lifetime.
Yeah did the drug addict ever apologize to Paul?? Even after the drug addict had all his titles stripped from him (he still has all his money by the way)?? The drug addict needs to apologize and live on the street. Biggest cheater liar in history.
Performance enhancing drugs aren't addictive. I'm against the use of these substances, but what people forget, or just don't know, is that the people that use them still have to put a lot of work in to their sport...they still have to train as hard, as long, etc. It's just that the doping helps them to recover faster and put in more work without the same fatigue levels and muscle injury. As I say, I'm not for the use of them, but never forget that athletes tht dope still have to work...
Paul, Christy your father accepted it because you told the truth. It such a pity UCI and others did not listen. Yourself a, David Walsh and Emma O’Reilly had integrity and that’s why you are respected. Roche, the charlatan is not half the man you are. Some people such as Roche, Armstrong etc, don’t like and cat handle the truth.
Best sports reporter in the world 🌎
One of the most profound statements off all time for me was “you don’t own the patent to cancer”. I’ve read all your books and watched your pieces. You’ve balls of steel Mr Kimmage. I’m sure Armstrong sees you in his nightmares. Don’t make men like you anymore
Total respect to Paul for the way he has endured over the years, and still is. Comes over as a person who talks a lot and says a lot whereas others (Roach inc) talk a lot and say nothing.
Brilliant book Rough Ride. The best account of what it’s like to be a professional cyclist ever written
His book is outstanding. I read it in 1999…after that I was still completely taken in by Lance Armstrong like I think (almost) everybody was. Paul Kimmage is the real hero in all this.
Excellent documentary. I have not read his book but I pay Mr Kimmage my highest respect.
I read "Rough Ride" in 1990. I knew Armstrong doped from his 1999 on... people argued with me endlessly. Once Armstrong finally admitted his doping, everyone of them just said, "well they all do it... I knew it all along".
You’re a good man Paul, for sure don’t listen to it if people say otherwise.
Great documentary. I really wasn't prepared for the hilarity of Kimmage's road rage on the Alpe with his wife back at the dining table, out of the way.
As a cyclist he is too, it was pretty shocking to see. An appalling look to be honest
People like paul are a rarity, he has the integrity to stand up for whats right no matter the consequences , that takes balls.
Well done Paul you speak the truth don't ever regret it
One of the true heroes of professional cycling.
It is telling that Roche and others reacted as he did when not specifically mentioned. Sometimes you recognize yourself in the words and narratives of others, and are compelled to 'shoot from the hip'.
a crusader for the truth this man....................
I read the book and this is a great follow up
Great documentary although i found sad the scene at the end when Kimmage sees Roche at the finish of the tour and reminisces about how they were once great friends
13:30. “Lance Armstrong was the most successful cyclist of all time…”. What!! Even if Armstrong’s record had stood, there would still be the little matter of a certain Mr. Merckx truly being the greatest of all time….he won grand tours, innumerable classics, six days and the hour record. A MUCH more complete record than Armstrong’s!
Agreed, and a certain Monsieur Hinault.
@@SawZaag Certainly!! I can’t believe I forgot to include him! All 3 grand tours, worlds, Liege, Roubaix…just to name a few!
Merckx did it in an easier time
@@howdyl6456 he also took ped's
I can’t watch cycling anymore, I lost faith in it at the end of the Hinault era. Drugs, deals, politics and graft had always been a part of cycling, but before the big players in money started taking over it was at least an option for bit players to take a win, once that was gone it was like watching Groundhog Day always the same players winning on an too frequently basis.
Once the money was available for the elite sports chemists to be hired and the likes of EPO came on the scene, the game was up. Most of the drugs up to that point were available to almost all, and shock horror a clean rider still had a chance to win or place. At that stage I could still watch it.
I don’t hold it against Kelly for not speaking publicly about it, after all his livelihood would have been comprised, but surely he could have let it be known to Paul privately that he secretly agreed, same for Roche.
I think after reading Laurent Fignons book young and carefree, I realised the game was up.
I feel for Floyd Landis, he won using the same substance that those before and after got away with. Although I still rate him as a human and an achiever anyway, and he seems like a regular guy.
I just watch tours from before the 90s there’s enough on you tube to keep me going for quite some time.
Thanks for uploading!
Respect!!🙏
Two things. Chris Frooms response sounds a lot like Armstrong's response when pushed. "Just nothing but hard work". As far Walsh saying he was basically living with Team Sky for 7 weeks so they are probably clean. In 2001 Paul Sherwin was basically living with the US Postal team before the TDF and they were doped to the gills...
49 minutes the way that Britain reporter that had asked the hard question was outside saying sorry to the rider says alm thats wrong with reporter's now.
Very disappointed in how Kelly and Roche turned their backs on him.
Pat McQuaid is an unsavoury character to say the least.
terrible that he was in such a position
Hilarious 😂 I never laughed so hard
The recent events involving the Sky doctor etc certain back up PKs intuition.
The good news is that Chris Froome was a pure as driven anow and Team Sky dominated by marginally outgaining everyone else...
if pro cycling is clean..then the tour would be slower, times would decrease, climbs would have men blowing up and stopping. it hasnt its got faster and faster.
must be the bike technology, lol!
@@ccjelley2390 what with the batteries in the down tube? Yep
UCI has also a lot to answer for, as they say they want to clean the sport but make each grand tour route harder and harder
@@neilplatt1111 good point
It's not the cyclists by themselves for God's sake. It's inbuilt into our societies and therefore in our minds. Competition rules, from Kindergarten into the grave. See it in yourself. Doping is part of our systemic fault.
Contentious subject, for sure.
Many factors involved, that influences, our own decisions taken.
Is it a simple "Yes or No" scenario ?
This is a question, that will outlast my lifetime.
21:18 sounds like Orla Chennaoui
Yeah did the drug addict ever apologize to Paul?? Even after the drug addict had all his titles stripped from him (he still has all his money by the way)?? The drug addict needs to apologize and live on the street. Biggest cheater liar in history.
Performance enhancing drugs aren't addictive. I'm against the use of these substances, but what people forget, or just don't know, is that the people that use them still have to put a lot of work in to their sport...they still have to train as hard, as long, etc. It's just that the doping helps them to recover faster and put in more work without the same fatigue levels and muscle injury. As I say, I'm not for the use of them, but never forget that athletes tht dope still have to work...
@@alwhyte6533 not as hard as the athletes that don’t dope…. Yet they still get all the glory
13:20 No, he wasn´t! Eddy Merckx was/is. The Tour de France isn´t the only race in the world for fuck´s sake!
I read the book so whats this about
you tell us, you're the one that's read the book
@@lag8na ya read the book and said whats this about because i havent watched it yet
@@shane-irish watch
@@Yahowah777 na
The ‘cancer did return’. McQuade and Verbruggen condoned the cancer in cycling!
Paul, Christy your father accepted it because you told the truth. It such a pity UCI and others did not listen. Yourself a, David Walsh and Emma O’Reilly had integrity and that’s why you are respected. Roche, the charlatan is not half the man you are. Some people such as Roche, Armstrong etc, don’t like and cat handle the truth.