Enjoyed the interview. Only piece of critique I would offer is, the cardinal sin that Lance committed was not the doping. That would be forgivable, especially in a sport where it was rampant. The unforgivable sin was the cover up, the manner in which he viciously went after and tried to ruin people's lives, anyone who had the audacity to challenge him. And to not bring this up to him, seems like a missed opportunity.
i had to scroll way too deep into the comments to find this. I get he's a hero to americans, and they admire him. take away the drugs and he is literally the all american hero. so i understand the worship. yet, every interview right since oprah is the same. none call him out for the terrible things he did to people along the way on his "journey". it is telling he has yet to reply to an email request sent recently from Paul Kimmage for an interview. He knows there would be no held punches there.
Well, he put his life/health and everything on line doing these drugs and racing as he did. He almost died because of it, this cancer was no coincidence. And yet people who doped too tried to destroy him. I won't say that this justifies his behaviour, he was a damn vicious bully for sure, but putting the things into this perspective... I can somehow understand why he wanted to protect his results and career at all costs.
Sorry NO! That doping will never be forgiven, he tarnished Le Tour in a way it never had been before or since! Then another USoNAan comes straight in and does the same! As bad as East Germany!
What you forget is Lance when he first hit Europe pro cycling, he was a big gear one day power rider. That's when he won his world title, but even then when you look at how his body was transforming you could see he was juicing! No coincidence he got testicular cancer around that time.
You are so right. We all new the amount of drugs that were being used at the time in cycle racing but he just kept saying that he was not using, time and again!. Broke a lot of people as well. Cant really forgive him for that!!!!
Great interview, The more he talks the more he tries to rationalize. It's not the doping but the people he ruined along the way. A con man is just pitiful, but a con man who destroys others in order to keep up the deception is evil!
Good interview! I am impressed how honest Armstrong was. I wish he was asked about the careers he intentionally ruined. I wish he was asked about trashing Greg Lemond's bike company that was tied to Trek. Armstrong really retaliated hatefully against those who questioned his integrity. By the way, Greg Lemond was right about Lance's doping all along and Armstrong has never apologized to him for attacking Greg in the media or financially. Armstrong landed on his feet financially, falling ass backwards into good investments yet those careers he ruined have had a lifetime effect.
@@garycowieson6225 Greg Lemond was tested while he was racing and he NEVER tested positive with ANY of the banned drugs prohibited by any of the cycling governing bodies. He was clean! Armstrong found a way to avoid getting caught and was sweating PED's out of his pores!
I was watching a documentary about Jan Ulrich, , despite doping affair and everything followed, I have to Admit that lance armstrong is very amazing man Not only he survived such deep fall, which normal person could never handelt it but also how he took care of his former rival ( Jan Ulrich) like a brother He flow couple time to bring him to rehab und stayed a couple week with him to stand up again , while he was facing much higher pain like champ You are very strong human being an for me you are best cyclist ever, no matter what others say God bless you sir
Solid interview. I've always respected Lance as a cyclist since the early 90's. Never thought he was clean, but I never was naïve enough to believe Pro Cycling was clean during the 1990's thru the late 2000's. He won the 7 Tours on an even playing field against a doped Pro Peloton. His downfall was, has now admits, being a jerk to everyone or anyone who crossed him. Good to see him maturing into wiser more self critical person...it just makes him a better person and a better interview. Still have a picture of him racing in 1995 with my wife in the background cheering him on.
Exactly he owns fully up to being a dick and you can tell he does regret it but that’s no reason either way to single him out when every single contender was on steroids not to mention the past 2 tdf winners before 99’
@@ATT-02 Sure you could have said it better. You could have said the truth. Lance never won the Tour. Not even once. He knew the rules as well as anyone, and he knew the penalty. Tour victory isn't for the fastest cheat, Tour victory is for the person that gets to Paris in least amount of overall elapsed time through each stage until the end. He didn't win the Tour, not even once, I promise. Look it up if you have to.
I have a friend who lives downvalley from Aspen who was diagnosed with testicular cancer, and Lance met with him in person, and you have no idea what the impact was on this kid. He recently was married and so far so good. Lance's caring when a long way during the tough times....
@@SnowboardJedi How about this, we r speaking about history and there has never been a bigger asshole, bully, jerk that intentionally harmed all that did not 100% kiss his ass. I am happy that he helped this one kid…does that wipe out all his previous harm, wounding, intense physical, medical and emotional wounding of all the young cyclist on his team. He forced them to do drugs or leave. Once they left he humiliated all of them and still does.
Lance has been my biggest inspiration since 2014 when I was diagnosed with 4th stage gastric cancer. There are some similarities in my life and Lance life and I wish one day I’ll have an opportunity to meet him and share my story. I appreciate his honesty, resilience and courage to overcome life atrocities. Lances, you are my hero 🤙🏽
My daughter, eldest son and older brother all survived different cancers. My daughter nearly lost the battle when she developed sepsis halfway through her chemo. Their heroes are the doctors and nurses and others who treated and cared for them especially the Macmillan cancer nurses. I used to defend Lance Armstrong to me he was a great inspiration and it wasn't ok he was a cheat but that doesn't detract from the great fundraising and cancer awareness campaign. Then I read Emma O'Reilly's book and listened to Greg LeMond - a man who was shot in the back and still has some of the pellets in his body - and watched his Oprah interview and only then did my opinion of him change. He's a horrible, vindictive bully that no one should idolise.
@@rusty083 he didn't cheat in beating cancer and just because he's sporting legend is forever tarnished doesn't mean people can't see a cancer survivor as an inspiration for themselves, you get cancer and see who and what you cling to and hope for to get you through it, show a bit more humility before saying such a selfish and stupid thing
Hi I'm Majed I'm 22 years old, I'm from Saudi Arabia, Jeddah. I'm an extremely big Lance fan. I lost my father in 2018 from pancreatic cancer and I started cycling in late 2019. I was a heavy smoker when I started Cycling and Thanks to Cycling I quit smoking completely now for two years and counting... I'm currently one aiming to win the national time trial championship... or at least working to achieve that ultimate goal. I till this very day feel his presence is with me whenever I workout. Lately, I decided to collect all the Livestrong merchandise from bands to hats and t shirts and jerseys... Lance Armstrong is a true inspiration to me. From the Cycling point of view and from the Cancer surviving and starting up Livestrong point of view too. Regardless of all the Drama... I still watch and learn and motivate myself from all the Cycling videos from Lance's era. A friend of mine once told me, '' You never know who you are inspiring'' And to me Lance you are a true Inspiration.
@@lisagreen1941 bro is Saudi lol he probably doesn't believe women are even humans I really doubt he would give a fuck about the evil shit Lance has done
Glad to hear you say it because those of us who have been in the cycling scene for years know who won seven Tours. We've all done things we're not proud of, but it's part of our lives. Own it and move on.
Lance, for all his sins, is one powerful human. Articulate, thoughtful and very intelligent. Lance was inspirational to a generation of cyclists, and the generation of cancer victims in the 90's, 00's and beyond. He has done a lot of good in the world. This was a great interview.
@@ricdavid7476 Surely you cannot be as stupid as to not realize what LiveStrong and Armstrong's use of his platform did for cancer, and what his cycling and profile did for the money coming into cycling
Loved the interview. When I watched the Tour highlights as a kid back in the 80s the sights of the mountains was astonishing and to watch the riders ascending and descending down the mountains was what attracted me to the sport. Fast forward to the Tour in 99, I was always glued to the TV every summer and watched Lance and the USPS team ride throughout France and dominate. Needless to say, those 7 tours were my all-time favorite.
Great interview. Big fan of Lance for overcoming his cancer battle! Living in Texas, all in for Lance during his Tour Championships. Remain a fan for moving on from the chaos and walking towards the light! Viva Lance Armstrong… A winner!
Only Lance, his family and doctors could know the survival struggles he managed thru during his fight with cancer. He cheated a death sentence. So much bigger than a podium appearance.
Mistakes are always made but not everyone admits them, honestly happy about Lance opening up, great story and sad ending, happy to have lived the time and acknowledged that not many people would have pulled his story for so long, too good to believe
Awesome interview. I've seen many with Lance Armstrong, Rogan, Peter Attia, etc but I felt this was done with more sensitivity and empathy. Kudos to Joe. As someone that has made past mistakes and paid a heavy price, I believe we all deserve a second chance. Huge respect for Lance.
Great interview. He didn't jump to this conclusion but with 90% of cyclist doping back then, he was competing in a level playing field. His is still a 7 time winner in my book.
@@Estilove1 lots of people got caught, Pantani and many others. His issue was that he was the biggest name in the sport and that he kept denying it. They had to make an example of him.
@@Estilove1 He should have just stayed retired and they would not have caught him. When he came back to ride 2 more Tour De Frances the whole controversy came back to haunt him.
😂🤦♀🙄 Level playing field!? He had the best doping doctors in the world! Cutting edge doping techniques no other cyclist competing against him had! Wake up!
@@LebronPhoto1not only denied it, but sued people who dared tell the truth. In the Oprah interview he even said he lost count of the people he sued for defamation.
I will NEVER forget watching Lance just prior to his diagnosis, and I think I am accurate here, but he was riding a stage of the Tour in the rain, and at one point decided there was no choice but to bail, so he stops, gets a warmer jacket from the team car, and turns around and rides back in the OPPOSITE direction the stage was going in. I remember thinking how totally humiliating and disheartening that moment must have been, to actually be riding AWAY from the peloton in the wrong direction. Wow. I also recall shortly after that watching TV and learning that Lance was diagnosed with testicular cancer. The feeling was like being punched in the gut...I just could not believe it. So I very clearly remember where I was during both these events, as they had a real impact on me personally. Lance was that well known even before his first Tour victory, at least to anyone into and following the sport. Not to mention watching him battle it out with Ullrich and Pantani, among others, for years after that. Most people are not aware than Lance pretty much saved Jan's life a few years ago by visiting him when he was in very bad shape physically and emotionally, and basically got him out of that funk and back on track. Doping or no, I feel super fortunate to have experienced Lance's career, and what I think were the glory days of the Tour. I can name maybe 2-3 tour riders these days....
Well said. Thanks for sharing. I can feel the fondness u have for the moment in time u describe that has evaded us far too quickly. I share your sentiments for lance and that great period in time, not just in cycling but in all other walks of life as well. It is amazing witnessing a human go to a place not ventured before. He had to fall hard but boy did he reach high first.
His Oslo world champs race was (and still is) one of the best world championships road race in history! He was 20 against all the greats, in freezing pouring rain. no helmet, no gloves, no arm warmers or vest, just all out old school road racing!!!
as a long time cycling fan and rider/racer, when lance won the world championships it was quite a moment for the second (or maybe third) coming of american cycling. when he began to win races it was apparent to me what was going on. the act of doping i can put aside because everyone was doing it and he did win those races. but, it was the appalling behavior and bullying that i will never get past. the things we know about are horrible imagine what we aren't aware of? he ruined peoples lives... he is still very charismatic but not much has probably change in the way a mind may work. good interview though.
@@darrelduke very true and also well said but if it weren’t for this particular personality trait, we would never of experienced any of the greatest because let’s face it, where lance stood at the time very few men if any have. I’m at the stage where judging any of it seems pointless to me now
Lance was an athlete I looked up to when I was younger and one of the reasons I bought my first road bike to help keep myself in shape. I enjoyed your interview and seeing where Lance is today and for the record I believe they should have let him keep his seven titles all things being equal. Ric
LOW 30's in a 10K? OMG that's amazing! I ran a 10K in 63 minutes and finished 120 of over 600 but that was called a 'hilly course' still Low 30's is incredible. Regardless of drugs he later used he had the best genetics around, i doubt he was using at 15 and he didn't do anything the others didn't do. Great interview, a TRUE survivor
History edited his story, as he did as a sociopath, he can't help himself being that way and having people look at him the way they do. He's very good at it, listen for any remorse, any apology, it's not something he can do. Once that's understood you can see how he looks at things and how he waTnts people to see him now. The more he talked, the more sorry I feel for folk with that affliction.
What rubbish! He fully admits his mistakes, took responsibility, makes no excuses. If only everyone did that, instead of blaming everyone but themselves for their c.ckups. Grow up and learn.
For me and the Cycling Connoisseurs who love this Sport and live the best time of Cycling and your Tour de France Championships you are the ultimate reference of Cycling we do not even think of anyone greater that after a diagnosis or death sentence the Champion of the Tour of France greater than the world has seen that is incredible what most scares the Europeans is that an American was winning Greetings from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
Great interview! Love him or hate him, Lance has a crazy stroy to tell and he does it well. He will always be the greatest Tour (de France) rider in history.
That was a thoroughly absorbing interview from start to finish. I used to watch the Tour de France purely because of Armstrong. Never watched it before his time, and rarely after. To me he was the ultimate athlete. It was so damn disappointing to discover that it was true that he had actually been doping. But years later, in this interview, I kinda found it refreshing to hear that he has now seemingly owned his mistakes, publicly takes full blame for being a total goose, and it seems he has learned his lesson (albeit a huge one!) and is working on building a hopefully better life. It's still obviously disappointing what happened, but good luck to him going forward.
So you're a Lance Armstrong fan.. Not a cycling fan clearly. The guy hasn't owned his mistakes, he hasn't helped expose any of the enablers around him, and he sure as shit hasn't apologised, in fact he said plenty of times he wouldn't change a thing. Seems like you've made your mind up regarding Lance but seems like you're not fully in ownership of the facts. He went after people who tried to expose doping in the sport in a really crazy vindictive manner. He was a fraud 100% even if he's still in denial.. Not saying he wasn't an incredible athlete, he was, but to be TdF GC contender you need a certain physiology, he was a very good one day racer but arguably wouldn't have the natural numbers to compete on 3 week tour without all the drugs. As a fellow human being I'd love to see Lance Armstrong get some professional help, and really dig deep and deal with his dark side, he's not even close unfortunately.
@@user-zx1ir7jt4cmaybe you should crawl out from under your rock because actually he really hasn't apologised, ask the people whose lives he made hell for years and years. Seriously, don't be such a fanboy and go get the facts :)
I never loved the Tour de France more than when Lance was competing. With how much stupid crap goes on in the world, for several years it made me so happy watching him race and for that I am so grateful to him. I happily overlook everything else
Totally agree, best years. If anyone else thinks different, they are idiots. They were all on it. Yes he was arrogant, but he's a cool dude. His podcasts are brilliant
His Oslo world champs race was (and still is) one of the best world championships road race in history! Just out of his teens against all the greats, in freezing pouring rain. no helmet, no gloves, no arm warmers or vest, just all out old school road racing!!!
He's been part of that play at the time and he's been the best and strongest rider / athlete - that's what made him (2 me) the GOAT = love that guy (Lance A.), DANKE for that great interview and regards from Germany
I was one of Lance's greatest supporters, believing him, in him abd his cause. But he misled us, badly. The extreme lies. The arrogance. Sitting in front of his yellow Jersey's. Who can forget. Personally I can not forget, it was just too much. Think the less we hear from him the better.
Totally agree. Won’t watch anything with him since I already have his whole tale - he's was all ego and still is. It shows how right Ricky Gervais was when he said there is no difference between fame and infamy anymore. Any decent person would know to address their misdeeds directly, his seeking public attention without addressing the Hamilton's and LeMonde puts him firmly in the infamy camp. It’s pretty sad that there’s still a fairly large fanboy base for that.
Great interview mate. Lance showing us again that he is very powerful soul living an imperfect human life - just like all of us. While there is an the argument he cheated to win those 7 tours - I know for sure he never cheated in preparing to win. No one trained as hard as him - most incredible and inspiring moments I've ever seen. Really happy to see he is finding some peace.
All his rivals were also cheating. He was simply better than them all and his work ethic was better than theirs. IMHO he will always be the best cyclist of that generation.
@@derekboocock4462 the problem with armstrong isn't really that he also worked harder at doping than everyone else in the peloton, but that he tried to destroy the lives of anyone near him who threatened to undermine his castle of lies.
@@theoccurrences7833 And if you have followed his story at all, you will know that is the one thing that he admits he is most ashamed of. I would add that doesn't everyone deserve a chance at redemption? After all, he has shown real remorse.
@@derekboocock4462 sure, I don't think he should be in jail, but no one is entitled to a career as an executive for a company in an industry from which he's banned from life.
Great interview Joe. It's clear to me that Lance is much more comfortable with himself and his place in cycling/life than he was during the Oprah interview. It'll be interesting to see how he's viewed as an athlete in another 5, 10, 20, 30 years.
I hope that the public sees the hypocrisy of the sport of cycling. There isn’t a pro cyclist who didn’t dope, just a pro cyclist who didn’t get caught.
he was one of a kind, although many have doped, only lance bullied harassed threatened and intimidated anyone who questioned him or his doping; but he is not totally worthless, he can always serve as a bad example
The dude is a legend. Best Tour rider of that era. So much on his shoulders, so much to protect. By the way, Lance has gone back and written personal checks to the people he "destroyed" and he did this without fanfare. Trying to make things right both personally and financially. Respect for that. And on the Uber investment, the numbers I heard were $100k invested at a $3 million valuation because Uber was brand new. At the current $49 billion valuation of Uber, that would be $1.6 billion. Amazing even if it's 1/10th of that. Perhaps my favorite thing is his relationship with his old rival, Jan Ulrich. Just pure brotherhood now.
Lance inspired me to buy my first road bike. I used to envision myself on that Trek as Lance Armstrong. I even bought the same shamy cream. Now at 73, I'm still riding a Madone. God bless, Lance.
For me the fall of Lance Armstrong was similar to O.J's fall. I was let down by my heroes. But(at least with Lance) my admiration of his work ethic and champions heart suspends my judgement of his failings and automatically leads to me moving beyond my disappointment. Having many shortcomings myself who am I to judge anyway?
He was ruthless. He set out to literally ruin Greg LeMond. The doping is forgiven but none of the interviewers address the way that he treated everyone around him.
That was an excellent interview I didn’t know that he wasn’t doing his podcast anymore because I’ve been a fan of his since he was a teenager because he’s one year older than me and I had a big crush on him to still do
Despite the well known huge fall from grace, I still find Lance an interesting and likeable person. This is the best interview I have seen with Lance, Joe did an amazing job and it is the most relaxed and open I have ever seen Lance in an interview.
He’s a superficially charming sociopath. He’s a master manipulator. He comes across as nice and charming in interviews but the people who knew him in private have very different stories to tell about this man. He ruthlessly destroyed people who stood up to him or got in his way.
A nice guy who by all accounts is a narcissistic bully who ruthlessly destroyed anyone who got in his way. A rampant cheat and fraud too which is always a plus.
Watching Lance kick Cancer's butt as well as seeing how resilient he is/was dealing with the fallout has helped me navigate the trials and tribulations in my life. I'm a Veteran and really went through some tough times. Thanks Lance!!!
Great interview Joe. Have seen and watched numerous interviews of him and know alot about Lance and this session was engaging and I learned new things as well.
Great interview, really humanized one of the greats. Was always a fan of Lance and always will be. Got back into cycling when he went down and got most of my cycling gear at the time at major discount due to his sponsorships pulling out so I had way nicer stuff than I could afford.
Well, Lance... At times he is funny, smart, whatever... I still could'nt trust his words. He is still making statements which are proven wrong, omitting certain aspects. Here, over in Germany we have our own problems, difficulties, worries with Jan Ullrich, who really suffered as well, albeit in different ways. One thing that unites them (apart from being former professional cyclists) is the fact that this encapsuled system of cycling with its lies and deceptions has distorted their take on reality.
Joe, thank you for doing this interview. I discovered cycling in 2005 when Lance was on the Oprah Winfrey Show and I have been a huge fan of his ever since. I didn't care about any sport before that because I also did not like the conventional sports that are popular where I'm from. Lance's story, the ups, the downs, and the multiple comebacks are all inspirational. I also know who won those races.
We can not forget how he destroyed the lives of those that initially blew the whistle on his doping. His actions paint him as a psychopath. Psychopaths are charming and endearing. Not saying he is psycho, but his actions point to some deep evilness.
He's certainly got strong traits of grandiosity. Watch footage of the ending of the 1993 World Road Race Championships in Oslo, it's available here on YT. His over-celebration where he spends a long time (before crossing the finish line) blowing kisses to the audience, and then later on when he steps up on the podium he even makes a Messiah type of gesture with his arms. Guy just looks like the biggest douchebag ever.
I was there for the rise. I was competing in triathlons as an amateur in my 20's and he was a talented teenager, racing the top professionals. I saw him race in The Gastown Grand Prix when I volunteered as a corner marshall, and later saw him in The Tour de Suisse in 94 when I was bike touring in Europe. I have followed every subsequent major Tour since. I was always cheering for Dutch riders, but understood how good Lance was and enjoyed watching his style and strength on the bike. I watched the fall with all other fans of the sport. I shared both of those arcs with them. The redemption? That's different, as it hasn't come to being from merely being included in the title. It's not a forgone conclusion. Where would the goalposts be set for him to be redeemed?
A truth a conciliation committee may have worked but he dragged his heels and denied for so long and with such vitriol that any genuine attempt at redemption may likely never succeed. The record book will remain as it is and that's not a bad thing because after a certain time of constant denial there should be no way back.
Rather his investments have matured. He knows he has more than enough now, a 1000 times more than the average Joe Soap who cheered him on. Why would he not be more relaxed with the full knowledge that he screwed everyone over and won!!!
Best Lance Armstrong ever seen. He’s so much more comfortable with himself and that’s obvious. His answers were spontaneous honest and transparent. He knows he did wrong and used his bully pulpit to hurst others but acknowledges his transgressions against others. I have a ton of respect for Lance.
Maybe that’s why. Armstrong says that he did like everybody else, but he’s the one that pushed the limit, bullied critics inside and outside the world of cycling. His place in the history of cycling is like the place of the steam machine in the the history of industrialisation. Doping was the new steam, changing the game, and why it existed before him of course, he perfectioned the program, together with his Italian doctors who still run free.
I really like lance, the fall guy for doping in cycling, everyone was at it and had been for years before, he just took it to the next level. He was also great for business in the cycle trade, Trek bike sales soared He done more good than many others
@@bobfoster687 I think Trek did a good enough job of that, since they took the brand over it just became bland and average, they did the same with Gary Fisher and Klein
Great interview, I followed his career since the days of Motorola and the Tour Du Pont. Me and my cycling buddies who I raced with always thought that he was doping ever since his '99 tour win. We still watched and rooted for him while also defending him because they were all doping but he became the scapegoat because he was so vehemently defiant and asshole toward anyone who accused him of doping. I still believe he was the best and most talented cyclist, who won 7 tours.
For my cycling races have lost everything. I am not interested any longer. Thanks Lance and all the others who doped and lied about it! I did not watch the interview. Lance Armstrong does not deserve any attention any longer!
Enjoyed this interview immensely! Loved the candor and contrition that Lance showed. We all make mistakes as humans so the important thing is to learn from them and strive to become better.
I’m 57 and rarely post a comment. I also don’t know who Joe is. I’m out of words to describe how good this interview was, from 00:00 to 1:25:00! I was a weekend warrior and my first 2 bikes were USPS Treks. Never lost respect for Lance to this day. The only event I watch is The Tour, and the only podcast I listen to is Lance’s. Really enjoyed it. My sincere best wishes for Lance from a fan from Puerto Rico. PS: Of course I got the band.
Grew up loving Lance. Watched every tour as a black kid in Indiana. He was the Michael Jordan of the sport and brought so many eyes to the sport. I relentlessly believed and defended him until the Oprah interview. I wasn’t disappointed when he admitted. The doping doesn’t matter to me but his treatment of people did. But I can’t judge. When you are on that high of a ride I don’t know if anyone would have done differently if they weren’t a saint. I do wish we could forget about the scandal and actually talk about the career. That man was a monster athlete especially considering everyone had the same enhancement. Lance on a bike was like watching poetry in motion.
I only watched cycling when he was dominating the sport. I know he made mistakes, especially about the cover up, but he still rode each and every mile of those races. He’s appropriately humiliated and I’m glad he’s moved on to a new life. Very smart, cool guy.
Yeah, let’s just forget about all the lives he ruined and that by all accounts he is a bully and a narcissistic areshole, who doped rampantly, his whole career built on a massive lie. He was a cheat and a fraud. Yeah, but sure he’s a smart cool guy😂🤦♀🙄
Polarizing is the word but I think Lance is a good man and doing really good things with his time. I'd 100% watch him win those tours all over again!! It was so interesting watching him think, reflect and wrestle with the unchangeable past. Great interview Joe!
Only thing is he DIDN'T WIN THOSE TOURS, Jason. I promise you that. He knew the penalty, that's why he fought long and hard to keep it under wraps, and it worked for quite a while, too long. It took Travis Tygart, an American believe it or not, to finally bring the charade to a close and restore a little sanity to the sport of cycling by stripping him of those 7 Tour titles. Am I bitter and angry at Lance? No, not any more, he earned what he got.
He's a loser so that means you're inspired by losers. All those riders on that podium were also injecting multiple PED's. They're losers too. It wasn't until they got to the guys around 5th place on down where they didn't find the PED & those guys without drugs did pretty good which means that without the drugs, losers like Lance woulda never finished the race!!! Loser Lance knew he wasn't NOWHERE near the athletic level of those other riders but he SO DESPERATELY wanted to be like them & he ENVIED them. "A man must know his limitations" & loser Lance knew his limitations because early in his career he was NOWHERE near a top level pro. He was a SINGLE event racer. He couldn't even hang a back to back single event! Here's how the doctor who exposed the loser tricks that Loser Lance used to greatly enhance his borderline pro rider abilities had to say: "By increasing his red blood cell count through the injections, he was able to go undetected because his counts were in line with the other top riders BUT the REALITY was that he actually had average red cells where as top pro athlete's naturally produce more. There was no way to test for the drug at that time. So he artificially & illegally doubled his cell counts where as the top athlete's wouldn't be able to double their counts with the illegal drug because the body has a cap on how much red cells we can produce. To put it more simply in a figurative analogy with this type of drug, YOU CAN TURN A DONKEY INTO A RACEHORSE, BUT THE ACTUAL REAL RACE HORSE WILL STILL BE A REGULAR RACE HORSE". So there u have it! You're inspired by the DONKEY (Loser) & I'll continue to be inspired by the actual racehorses🤡
Not proud of the way he handled the whole exposure of the scandal, but at the end of the day, he won those 7 tours. He was just a scapegoat. The field was loaded with EPO, and too a point, probably still is today. Lance exposed me to cycling and he's the reason my wife and I purchased our first road bikes. If it weren't for a lot of close calls on the roads here in Alabama, I'd still be riding today. I still have my Team Discovery jersey! I'm glad he's doing well and will not forget everything he did for cancer and for cycling. Cycling is more popular in America because of Lance. The Tour has been boring ever since because there's no American who can contend for the wins.
I want to like Lance, don't we all, frankly in this video he shows what a jerk he is. He blasts Novitsky for investigating him? Lance committed a fraud. Everyone else doing it doesn't absolve him. He committed a crime and he paid the price for it. Only because of his notoriety did he get approached in a bar in Aspen (of all places) to invest in a fund. Then at the end when he can have the shot to show contrition to people he's destroyed, he still doesn't do it and Joe doesn't ask him to do it. I did think for most of this that Lance actually showed humility and honesty, but he's yet to REALLY apologize to the likes of David Walsh, Damien Ressiot, Frankie Andreu, Emma O'Reilly and so many others. When he can get up there and not show hostility to those lawmen that chased him and can show contrition to the people he destroyed, then I might consider being a fanboy, but it's been a bit too long coming. Joe - you could have asked those hard questions, why not?
he's going to answer those questions in the Paul Kimmage interview :) Emma O'Reilly's book paints a fairly horrific picture of what went on. What he did to her with the lawsuit was unforgivable.
@@kingoffifa this to me is why Lance is a shizzy person. It's not that he doped, it's that he didn't just deny, deny, deny, he went after people maliciously when he was lying, and didn't care what he did to destroy them. He should apologize and make restitution to them. Period.
@@scottdinhofer2104 exactly. I doubt we'll ever see it. he's spent the last 10 years reverse sportswashing his past. those skeletons will remain firmly in the closet.
A typical representative of the contemporary USA. Huge self-confidence, minimal knowledge of the world, zero command of foreign languages and a pack of lies. I hope he has already returned all the money to his sponsors and the people who trusted him.
So what? In retrospect you have followed a lying, cheating, two faced scum bag. I’d keep y to that quiet if I was you. Greg Lemond is the greatest American cyclist of all time.
Good to see Lance in 2022. Thank you for this Episode! Been there to see the Rise and Fall of Lance . The many epic stage wins in TDF. So much witnessed in 20 years. Grateful to have been there. Truly Blessed at the moment. Thank YOU Life!
@@christaalbrecht67 He won TDF seven times in a row. Only Armstrong has won more than five. Only four or five have won five. Only two won five in a row. His chief competitors were all suspended for doping, several during his career. When they stripped him of his TDF titles, they wanted to award those races to others but couldn't find anyone "clean" to award those races. Doping has been a problem in cycling, probably from the beginning. It is probably still a problem. The demands of the sport are immense.
Enjoyed the interview. Only piece of critique I would offer is, the cardinal sin that Lance committed was not the doping. That would be forgivable, especially in a sport where it was rampant. The unforgivable sin was the cover up, the manner in which he viciously went after and tried to ruin people's lives, anyone who had the audacity to challenge him. And to not bring this up to him, seems like a missed opportunity.
i had to scroll way too deep into the comments to find this. I get he's a hero to americans, and they admire him. take away the drugs and he is literally the all american hero. so i understand the worship. yet, every interview right since oprah is the same. none call him out for the terrible things he did to people along the way on his "journey". it is telling he has yet to reply to an email request sent recently from Paul Kimmage for an interview. He knows there would be no held punches there.
Well, he put his life/health and everything on line doing these drugs and racing as he did. He almost died because of it, this cancer was no coincidence. And yet people who doped too tried to destroy him. I won't say that this justifies his behaviour, he was a damn vicious bully for sure, but putting the things into this perspective... I can somehow understand why he wanted to protect his results and career at all costs.
Sorry NO! That doping will never be forgiven, he tarnished Le Tour in a way it never had been before or since! Then another USoNAan comes straight in and does the same! As bad as East Germany!
What you forget is Lance when he first hit Europe pro cycling, he was a big gear one day power rider. That's when he won his world title, but even then when you look at how his body was transforming you could see he was juicing! No coincidence he got testicular cancer around that time.
You are so right. We all new the amount of drugs that were being used at the time in cycle racing but he just kept saying that he was not using, time and again!. Broke a lot of people as well. Cant really forgive him for that!!!!
Great interview, The more he talks the more he tries to rationalize. It's not the doping but the people he ruined along the way. A con man is just pitiful, but a con man who destroys others in order to keep up the deception is evil!
Good interview! I am impressed how honest Armstrong was. I wish he was asked about the careers he intentionally ruined. I wish he was asked about trashing Greg Lemond's bike company that was tied to Trek. Armstrong really retaliated hatefully against those who questioned his integrity.
By the way, Greg Lemond was right about Lance's doping all along and Armstrong has never apologized to him for attacking Greg in the media or financially.
Armstrong landed on his feet financially, falling ass backwards into good investments yet those careers he ruined have had a lifetime effect.
And if you believe Greg Lemond was clean winning the tour when he did.
Then your on drugs!
@@garycowieson6225 Compared to Armstrong, Lemond was clean!
@TheNewMexicoMan so your admitted lemond was not clean?
@TheNewMexicoMan Your either clean or your not there no part way here.
@@garycowieson6225 Greg Lemond was tested while he was racing and he NEVER tested positive with ANY of the banned drugs prohibited by any of the cycling governing bodies. He was clean! Armstrong found a way to avoid getting caught and was sweating PED's out of his pores!
I was watching a documentary about Jan Ulrich, , despite doping affair and everything followed, I have to Admit that lance armstrong is very amazing man
Not only he survived such deep fall, which normal person could never handelt it but also how he took care of his former rival ( Jan Ulrich) like a brother
He flow couple time to bring him to rehab und stayed a couple week with him to stand up again , while he was facing much higher pain like champ
You are very strong human being an for me you are best cyclist ever, no matter what others say
God bless you sir
Solid interview. I've always respected Lance as a cyclist since the early 90's. Never thought he was clean, but I never was naïve enough to believe Pro Cycling was clean during the 1990's thru the late 2000's. He won the 7 Tours on an even playing field against a doped Pro Peloton. His downfall was, has now admits, being a jerk to everyone or anyone who crossed him. Good to see him maturing into wiser more self critical person...it just makes him a better person and a better interview. Still have a picture of him racing in 1995 with my wife in the background cheering him on.
Exactly he owns fully up to being a dick and you can tell he does regret it but that’s no reason either way to single him out when every single contender was on steroids not to mention the past 2 tdf winners before 99’
I couldn’t have said it any better.
Lance is class and won fair and square according to the rules of the road at the time so in my opinion he is a 7 time winner
@@ATT-02 Sure you could have said it better. You could have said the truth. Lance never won the Tour. Not even once. He knew the rules as well as anyone, and he knew the penalty. Tour victory isn't for the fastest cheat, Tour victory is for the person that gets to Paris in least amount of overall elapsed time through each stage until the end. He didn't win the Tour, not even once, I promise. Look it up if you have to.
@@scooter2163 do you mean the timing was manipulated? Where to search?
Love him or dislike him, he’s always a great interview
I have a friend who lives downvalley from Aspen who was diagnosed with testicular cancer, and Lance met with him in person, and you have no idea what the impact was on this kid. He recently was married and so far so good. Lance's caring when a long way during the tough times....
He is a liar.
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Grow Up!!!
@@inthedarkwoods2022 Who cares!!
I caddied for him in Texas about 7 years ago and he was super cool....he got a bad wrap because he went against the agenda and the powers that be.
@@SnowboardJedi How about this, we r speaking about history and there has never been a bigger asshole, bully, jerk that intentionally harmed all that did not 100% kiss his ass. I am happy that he helped this one kid…does that wipe out all his previous harm, wounding, intense physical, medical and emotional wounding of all the young cyclist on his team. He forced them to do drugs or leave.
Once they left he humiliated all of them and still does.
Lance has been my biggest inspiration since 2014 when I was diagnosed with 4th stage gastric cancer. There are some similarities in my life and Lance life and I wish one day I’ll have an opportunity to meet him and share my story. I appreciate his honesty, resilience and courage to overcome life atrocities. Lances, you are my hero 🤙🏽
A notorious drug cheat is your hero? Weird…
@rusty083 you either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain.😂😂😂
My daughter, eldest son and older brother all survived different cancers. My daughter nearly lost the battle when she developed sepsis halfway through her chemo. Their heroes are the doctors and nurses and others who treated and cared for them especially the Macmillan cancer nurses. I used to defend Lance Armstrong to me he was a great inspiration and it wasn't ok he was a cheat but that doesn't detract from the great fundraising and cancer awareness campaign. Then I read Emma O'Reilly's book and listened to Greg LeMond - a man who was shot in the back and still has some of the pellets in his body - and watched his Oprah interview and only then did my opinion of him change. He's a horrible, vindictive bully that no one should idolise.
@@rusty083 he didn't cheat in beating cancer and just because he's sporting legend is forever tarnished doesn't mean people can't see a cancer survivor as an inspiration for themselves, you get cancer and see who and what you cling to and hope for to get you through it, show a bit more humility before saying such a selfish and stupid thing
Honesty? That's an odd value to call out here.
Hi I'm Majed I'm 22 years old, I'm from Saudi Arabia, Jeddah.
I'm an extremely big Lance fan. I lost my father in 2018 from pancreatic cancer and I started cycling in late 2019.
I was a heavy smoker when I started Cycling and Thanks to Cycling I quit smoking completely now for two years and counting... I'm currently one aiming to win the national time trial championship... or at least working to achieve that ultimate goal.
I till this very day feel his presence is with me whenever I workout. Lately, I decided to collect all the Livestrong merchandise from bands to hats and t shirts and jerseys... Lance Armstrong is a true inspiration to me. From the Cycling point of view and from the Cancer surviving and starting up Livestrong point of view too. Regardless of all the Drama... I still watch and learn and motivate myself from all the Cycling videos from Lance's era.
A friend of mine once told me, '' You never know who you are inspiring'' And to me Lance you are a true Inspiration.
If he inspires anyone… that’s scary. He’s a fraud, a cheat, a liar and is trying to justify destroying lives by saying ‘poor me’.
@@lisagreen1941 bro is Saudi lol he probably doesn't believe women are even humans I really doubt he would give a fuck about the evil shit Lance has done
Glad to hear you say it because those of us who have been in the cycling scene for years know who won seven Tours. We've all done things we're not proud of, but it's part of our lives. Own it and move on.
Yep.. I know.. and it is definitely NOT Lance……
You're right, thanks for that.
Lance, for all his sins, is one powerful human. Articulate, thoughtful and very intelligent.
Lance was inspirational to a generation of cyclists, and the generation of cancer victims in the 90's, 00's and beyond. He has done a lot of good in the world.
This was a great interview.
Haha he has done a lot of good? Surely you are not serious
@@ricdavid7476 Surely you cannot be as stupid as to not realize what LiveStrong and Armstrong's use of his platform did for cancer, and what his cycling and profile did for the money coming into cycling
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Loved the interview. When I watched the Tour highlights as a kid back in the 80s the sights of the mountains was astonishing and to watch the riders ascending and descending down the mountains was what attracted me to the sport. Fast forward to the Tour in 99, I was always glued to the TV every summer and watched Lance and the USPS team ride throughout France and dominate. Needless to say, those 7 tours were my all-time favorite.
Great interview. Big fan of Lance for overcoming his cancer battle! Living in Texas, all in for Lance during his Tour Championships. Remain a fan for moving on from the chaos and walking towards the light! Viva Lance Armstrong… A winner!
lol. If winner means cheat
Only Lance, his family and doctors could know the survival struggles he managed thru during his fight with cancer. He cheated a death sentence. So much bigger than a podium appearance.
lol, Lance ruined so many lives in his wake.
@@maartenkranendonk8954 is it really cheating if everyone is doing it?
This is the most humble and realistic I’ve seen Lance since all this went down.
That’s right!
He has been like this for years. I watch his podcasts.
And that is EXACTLY the emotional response he is looking for from people. He is a con man.... was the biggest and will always be one.
@@ragemore7750 you don't have a clue bro
@@joerenner8334 you are spot on...I spent 5 hours on the golf course with him and he is super chill and friendly
Mistakes are always made but not everyone admits them, honestly happy about Lance opening up, great story and sad ending, happy to have lived the time and acknowledged that not many people would have pulled his story for so long, too good to believe
Awesome interview. I've seen many with Lance Armstrong, Rogan, Peter Attia, etc but I felt this was done with more sensitivity and empathy. Kudos to Joe. As someone that has made past mistakes and paid a heavy price, I believe we all deserve a second chance. Huge respect for Lance.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it - Lance is a good dude.
I agree 👍
Only for a sensitive evolved and cultivated guy. Use of the kings English alone tells us all something No?
Just great interview, Lance will have success no matter what.
Lance cycling era was unbelievable
Literally
Great interview. He didn't jump to this conclusion but with 90% of cyclist doping back then, he was competing in a level playing field. His is still a 7 time winner in my book.
So why did only he get caught? Sorry I didn't watch the sport then
@@Estilove1 lots of people got caught, Pantani and many others. His issue was that he was the biggest name in the sport and that he kept denying it. They had to make an example of him.
@@Estilove1 He should have just stayed retired and they would not have caught him. When he came back to ride 2 more Tour De Frances the whole controversy came back to haunt him.
😂🤦♀🙄 Level playing field!? He had the best doping doctors in the world! Cutting edge doping techniques no other cyclist competing against him had! Wake up!
@@LebronPhoto1not only denied it, but sued people who dared tell the truth. In the Oprah interview he even said he lost count of the people he sued for defamation.
I will NEVER forget watching Lance just prior to his diagnosis, and I think I am accurate here, but he was riding a stage of the Tour in the rain, and at one point decided there was no choice but to bail, so he stops, gets a warmer jacket from the team car, and turns around and rides back in the OPPOSITE direction the stage was going in. I remember thinking how totally humiliating and disheartening that moment must have been, to actually be riding AWAY from the peloton in the wrong direction. Wow. I also recall shortly after that watching TV and learning that Lance was diagnosed with testicular cancer. The feeling was like being punched in the gut...I just could not believe it. So I very clearly remember where I was during both these events, as they had a real impact on me personally. Lance was that well known even before his first Tour victory, at least to anyone into and following the sport. Not to mention watching him battle it out with Ullrich and Pantani, among others, for years after that. Most people are not aware than Lance pretty much saved Jan's life a few years ago by visiting him when he was in very bad shape physically and emotionally, and basically got him out of that funk and back on track. Doping or no, I feel super fortunate to have experienced Lance's career, and what I think were the glory days of the Tour. I can name maybe 2-3 tour riders these days....
Well said. Thanks for sharing. I can feel the fondness u have for the moment in time u describe that has evaded us far too quickly. I share your sentiments for lance and that great period in time, not just in cycling but in all other walks of life as well. It is amazing witnessing a human go to a place not ventured before. He had to fall hard but boy did he reach high first.
100% to that.
His Oslo world champs race was (and still is) one of the best world championships road race in history! He was 20 against all the greats, in freezing pouring rain. no helmet, no gloves, no arm warmers or vest, just all out old school road racing!!!
as a long time cycling fan and rider/racer, when lance won the world championships it was quite a moment for the second (or maybe third) coming of american cycling. when he began to win races it was apparent to me what was going on. the act of doping i can put aside because everyone was doing it and he did win those races. but, it was the appalling behavior and bullying that i will never get past. the things we know about are horrible imagine what we aren't aware of? he ruined peoples lives...
he is still very charismatic but not much has probably change in the way a mind may work. good interview though.
@@darrelduke very true and also well said but if it weren’t for this particular personality trait, we would never of experienced any of the greatest because let’s face it, where lance stood at the time very few men if any have. I’m at the stage where judging any of it seems pointless to me now
7x survivor just getting back into biking, XC and bikepacking is the plan, and would just say Thank You.
Lance was an athlete I looked up to when I was younger and one of the reasons I bought my first road bike to help keep myself in shape. I enjoyed your interview and seeing where Lance is today and for the record I believe they should have let him keep his seven titles all things being equal. Ric
How do you feel knowing he cheated?
LOW 30's in a 10K? OMG that's amazing! I ran a 10K in 63 minutes and finished 120 of over 600 but that was called a 'hilly course' still Low 30's is incredible. Regardless of drugs he later used he had the best genetics around, i doubt he was using at 15 and he didn't do anything the others didn't do.
Great interview, a TRUE survivor
History edited his story, as he did as a sociopath, he can't help himself being that way and having people look at him the way they do. He's very good at it, listen for any remorse, any apology, it's not something he can do. Once that's understood you can see how he looks at things and how he waTnts people to see him now. The more he talked, the more sorry I feel for folk with that affliction.
I am sorry for you just buy reading this weak, pathetic stuff. Pure looser mind.
What rubbish! He fully admits his mistakes, took responsibility, makes no excuses.
If only everyone did that, instead of blaming everyone but themselves for their c.ckups.
Grow up and learn.
People fall for his charisma. He is good. Undeniably a sociopath.
For me and the Cycling Connoisseurs who love this Sport and live the best time of Cycling and your Tour de France Championships you are the ultimate reference of Cycling we do not even think of anyone greater that after a diagnosis or death sentence the Champion of the Tour of France greater than the world has seen that is incredible what most scares the Europeans is that an American was winning Greetings from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
Great interview! Love him or hate him, Lance has a crazy stroy to tell and he does it well. He will always be the greatest Tour (de France) rider in history.
No
Yes
The greatest fraud in history
That was a thoroughly absorbing interview from start to finish. I used to watch the Tour de France purely because of Armstrong. Never watched it before his time, and rarely after. To me he was the ultimate athlete. It was so damn disappointing to discover that it was true that he had actually been doping. But years later, in this interview, I kinda found it refreshing to hear that he has now seemingly owned his mistakes, publicly takes full blame for being a total goose, and it seems he has learned his lesson (albeit a huge one!) and is working on building a hopefully better life. It's still obviously disappointing what happened, but good luck to him going forward.
Not really. He hasn’t apologized to the people who’s lives he ruined. Listen to what Greg Lamond has to say
Actually he did apologize. I'm not sure what rock you've been hiding under...
So you're a Lance Armstrong fan.. Not a cycling fan clearly. The guy hasn't owned his mistakes, he hasn't helped expose any of the enablers around him, and he sure as shit hasn't apologised, in fact he said plenty of times he wouldn't change a thing. Seems like you've made your mind up regarding Lance but seems like you're not fully in ownership of the facts. He went after people who tried to expose doping in the sport in a really crazy vindictive manner. He was a fraud 100% even if he's still in denial.. Not saying he wasn't an incredible athlete, he was, but to be TdF GC contender you need a certain physiology, he was a very good one day racer but arguably wouldn't have the natural numbers to compete on 3 week tour without all the drugs.
As a fellow human being I'd love to see Lance Armstrong get some professional help, and really dig deep and deal with his dark side, he's not even close unfortunately.
@@user-zx1ir7jt4cmaybe you should crawl out from under your rock because actually he really hasn't apologised, ask the people whose lives he made hell for years and years. Seriously, don't be such a fanboy and go get the facts :)
This is a great one, Mr Amstrong. Falling needs not be curling up to death.
I never loved the Tour de France more than when Lance was competing. With how much stupid crap goes on in the world, for several years it made me so happy watching him race and for that I am so grateful to him. I happily overlook everything else
Wow.
Totally agree, best years. If anyone else thinks different, they are idiots. They were all on it. Yes he was arrogant, but he's a cool dude. His podcasts are brilliant
Totally Agree 👍. I Love ❤️ Lance Armstrong. His story is Incredible.
Overlooked the fact that he cheated? Unreal.
His Oslo world champs race was (and still is) one of the best world championships road race in history! Just out of his teens against all the greats, in freezing pouring rain. no helmet, no gloves, no arm warmers or vest, just all out old school road racing!!!
I was really bummed out when it was made public that Lance doped to win. Lots of destruction all around him.
one of the best interviews I have seen with Lance. Big fan.
Pumped to hear that, Glenn! Glad you enjoyed it!
I always loved how Bill Burr related to what Lance Armstrong did in cycling ie. Our guy on drugs beat your guy on drugs and back then it was so true.
He's been part of that play at the time and he's been the best and strongest rider / athlete - that's what made him (2 me) the GOAT = love that guy (Lance A.), DANKE for that great interview and regards from Germany
I was one of Lance's greatest supporters, believing him, in him abd his cause. But he misled us, badly. The extreme lies. The arrogance. Sitting in front of his yellow Jersey's. Who can forget. Personally I can not forget, it was just too much. Think the less we hear from him the better.
Totally agree. Won’t watch anything with him since I already have his whole tale - he's was all ego and still is. It shows how right Ricky Gervais was when he said there is no difference between fame and infamy anymore. Any decent person would know to address their misdeeds directly, his seeking public attention without addressing the Hamilton's and LeMonde puts him firmly in the infamy camp. It’s pretty sad that there’s still a fairly large fanboy base for that.
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Great interview mate. Lance showing us again that he is very powerful soul living an imperfect human life - just like all of us. While there is an the argument he cheated to win those 7 tours - I know for sure he never cheated in preparing to win. No one trained as hard as him - most incredible and inspiring moments I've ever seen. Really happy to see he is finding some peace.
All his rivals were also cheating. He was simply better than them all and his work ethic was better than theirs. IMHO he will always be the best cyclist of that generation.
@@derekboocock4462 the problem with armstrong isn't really that he also worked harder at doping than everyone else in the peloton, but that he tried to destroy the lives of anyone near him who threatened to undermine his castle of lies.
@@theoccurrences7833 And if you have followed his story at all, you will know that is the one thing that he admits he is most ashamed of. I would add that doesn't everyone deserve a chance at redemption? After all, he has shown real remorse.
@@derekboocock4462 arguably he was the most dominant athlete of his generation
@@derekboocock4462 sure, I don't think he should be in jail, but no one is entitled to a career as an executive for a company in an industry from which he's banned from life.
Great interview Joe. It's clear to me that Lance is much more comfortable with himself and his place in cycling/life than he was during the Oprah interview. It'll be interesting to see how he's viewed as an athlete in another 5, 10, 20, 30 years.
In 30 years time, he'll still be the athlete who doped and cheated for years.
Just like Ben Johnson is viewed today, 30 years his doping.
I hope that the public sees the hypocrisy of the sport of cycling. There isn’t a pro cyclist who didn’t dope, just a pro cyclist who didn’t get caught.
he was one of a kind, although many have doped, only lance bullied harassed threatened and intimidated anyone who questioned him or his doping; but he is not totally worthless, he can always serve as a bad example
Drugs or no drugs he was still an exceptional athlete
As a cheat and sociopath..
I like him, always have. He made mistakes, we all have. His was just on a bigger stage. Great interview.
Terrible person. Still an egotistical, fake person. He still needs to apologize to Greg LeMond
The dude is a legend. Best Tour rider of that era. So much on his shoulders, so much to protect. By the way, Lance has gone back and written personal checks to the people he "destroyed" and he did this without fanfare. Trying to make things right both personally and financially. Respect for that. And on the Uber investment, the numbers I heard were $100k invested at a $3 million valuation because Uber was brand new. At the current $49 billion valuation of Uber, that would be $1.6 billion. Amazing even if it's 1/10th of that. Perhaps my favorite thing is his relationship with his old rival, Jan Ulrich. Just pure brotherhood now.
Lance inspired me to buy my first road bike. I used to envision myself on that Trek as Lance Armstrong. I even bought the same shamy cream. Now at 73, I'm still riding a Madone. God bless, Lance.
For me the fall of Lance Armstrong was similar to O.J's fall. I was let down by my heroes. But(at least with Lance) my admiration of his work ethic and champions heart suspends my judgement of his failings and automatically leads to me moving beyond my disappointment. Having many shortcomings myself who am I to judge anyway?
I felt that way when I was a teenager, but now as I got older... he did what he had to do.
He was ruthless. He set out to literally ruin Greg LeMond. The doping is forgiven but none of the interviewers address the way that he treated everyone around him.
Comparing Lance to OJ? Jesus, what's wrong with you?
You two have great chemistry! Good job Joe letting him speak and directing the flow of the discussion 👏🏼
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Better than Oprah. No doubt. Great job. Hi from Australia!
That was an excellent interview I didn’t know that he wasn’t doing his podcast anymore because I’ve been a fan of his since he was a teenager because he’s one year older than me and I had a big crush on him to still do
Despite the well known huge fall from grace, I still find Lance an interesting and likeable person. This is the best interview I have seen with Lance, Joe did an amazing job and it is the most relaxed and open I have ever seen Lance in an interview.
Thanks, Carolyn!
He’s a superficially charming sociopath. He’s a master manipulator. He comes across as nice and charming in interviews but the people who knew him in private have very different stories to tell about this man. He ruthlessly destroyed people who stood up to him or got in his way.
Great Interview ! Lance still one of my favorite legends ! Obviously a pretty nice guy. sigh....its life and it aint perfect.
A nice guy who by all accounts is a narcissistic bully who ruthlessly destroyed anyone who got in his way. A rampant cheat and fraud too which is always a plus.
Watching Lance kick Cancer's butt as well as seeing how resilient he is/was dealing with the fallout has helped me navigate the trials and tribulations in my life. I'm a Veteran and really went through some tough times. Thanks Lance!!!
What a great interview. Thanks Joe
Thanks, Harry! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic job here Joe. Absolutely incredible and great questions. Much better than any other interview.
Great interviewer and loved Lance in this. Thanks!
Thanks, Christian! Glad you enjoyed it.
What's a 'real ones"?.
Great interview Joe. Have seen and watched numerous interviews of him and know alot about Lance and this session was engaging and I learned new things as well.
Thanks, Peter! Pumped to hear that you enjoyed it.
Great interview, really humanized one of the greats. Was always a fan of Lance and always will be. Got back into cycling when he went down and got most of my cycling gear at the time at major discount due to his sponsorships pulling out so I had way nicer stuff than I could afford.
At least that was one good thing that came out of it.
Great to hear Lance be so open. Excellent content.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I knew it was going to be a good interview when Lance said "You can ask me whatever the f**k you want" before we started 🤣
Well, Lance... At times he is funny, smart, whatever... I still could'nt trust his words. He is still making statements which are proven wrong, omitting certain aspects. Here, over in Germany we have our own problems, difficulties, worries with Jan Ullrich, who really suffered as well, albeit in different ways. One thing that unites them (apart from being former professional cyclists) is the fact that this encapsuled system of cycling with its lies and deceptions has distorted their take on reality.
Joe, thank you for doing this interview. I discovered cycling in 2005 when Lance was on the Oprah Winfrey Show and I have been a huge fan of his ever since. I didn't care about any sport before that because I also did not like the conventional sports that are popular where I'm from. Lance's story, the ups, the downs, and the multiple comebacks are all inspirational. I also know who won those races.
I really wish you would’ve asked him about his reluctance/refusal to talk to Tygart. You had a beautiful opening when he said he’s an open book.
We can not forget how he destroyed the lives of those that initially blew the whistle on his doping. His actions paint him as a psychopath. Psychopaths are charming and endearing. Not saying he is psycho, but his actions point to some deep evilness.
Where’s the ❤ on this comment, Joe?
Totally agree
He “destroyed” , really
He's certainly got strong traits of grandiosity. Watch footage of the ending of the 1993 World Road Race Championships in Oslo, it's available here on YT. His over-celebration where he spends a long time (before crossing the finish line) blowing kisses to the audience, and then later on when he steps up on the podium he even makes a Messiah type of gesture with his arms. Guy just looks like the biggest douchebag ever.
This is arguably the most candid, comprehensive interview of Lance I've ever heard. Great job! Didn't plan to get sucked, but totally did
You think he’s candid? Lol. Nah, it’s always an act with Lance.
I was there for the rise. I was competing in triathlons as an amateur in my 20's and he was a talented teenager, racing the top professionals. I saw him race in The Gastown Grand Prix when I volunteered as a corner marshall, and later saw him in The Tour de Suisse in 94 when I was bike touring in Europe. I have followed every subsequent major Tour since. I was always cheering for Dutch riders, but understood how good Lance was and enjoyed watching his style and strength on the bike. I watched the fall with all other fans of the sport. I shared both of those arcs with them.
The redemption? That's different, as it hasn't come to being from merely being included in the title. It's not a forgone conclusion. Where would the goalposts be set for him to be redeemed?
A truth a conciliation committee may have worked but he dragged his heels and denied for so long and with such vitriol that any genuine attempt at redemption may likely never succeed. The record book will remain as it is and that's not a bad thing because after a certain time of constant denial there should be no way back.
The Marketing Superman of Cycling! Only in America. Nevertheless fantastic story!
That was a fantastic interview... Respect to Lance Armstrong
he doesnt deserve respect, he is a conman
Never respect cheaters or liars
THE GREATEST! NO MATER DOPING! FOR INSTANCE EVERYONE IS DOPED! NO EXCEPTIONS!
lance is getting better... all of us need to mature. Not all of us have to do it on a world stage.
Rather his investments have matured. He knows he has more than enough now, a 1000 times more than the average Joe Soap who cheered him on. Why would he not be more relaxed with the full knowledge that he screwed everyone over and won!!!
It was a MSM hit job on him bro. He is super chill and cool..I spent time with him on the golf course.
2 questions: How did you get LA? And, 2) Do you realize how lucky you are that he did this with you?
He still cannot admit the way that he treated everyone around him.
He did admit to being a scumbag 1000 times. Literally 1000 times.
That seems to be a chapter that won’t be closed . I don’t see him apologizing to Frankie Andreu and his wife
Awesome show. I love Lance. Livestrong!!
The only thing I wished you'd asked him about is what he did to Greg and Cathy LeMond.
I’ve always been a fan, through the good and bad. If there was one dude I’d like to have a beer with, it’s Lance.
did lance armstrong ever make amends to Frankie and Betsy Andreu who testified against him in court?
No. Frankie had him on a podcast on YT.
Best Lance Armstrong ever seen. He’s so much more comfortable with himself and that’s obvious. His answers were spontaneous honest and transparent. He knows he did wrong and used his bully pulpit to hurst others but acknowledges his transgressions against others. I have a ton of respect for Lance.
I have never been a fan of Lance as such but the more I listen to him the more I like him.
Great interview! Lance… I love you man! Hope to go on a ride and share a beer with you someday!
Why still disrespecting Carlos Sastre? Especially since he’s never been implicated in doping
Maybe that’s why. Armstrong says that he did like everybody else, but he’s the one that pushed the limit, bullied critics inside and outside the world of cycling. His place in the history of cycling is like the place of the steam machine in the the history of industrialisation. Doping was the new steam, changing the game, and why it existed before him of course, he perfectioned the program, together with his Italian doctors who still run free.
Because he knows, as many of us who were paying attention to Pro Cycling back then, that Carlito and all the other Team Leaders where on the Gear!!!!!
Great interview. Those of you who have not sinned, cast the first stone. ~Jesus.
Rise & fall is true…….redemption? Not even close.
I really like lance, the fall guy for doping in cycling, everyone was at it and had been for years before, he just took it to the next level.
He was also great for business in the cycle trade, Trek bike sales soared
He done more good than many others
Destroyed Lemond’s bike brand!
@@bobfoster687 I think Trek did a good enough job of that, since they took the brand over it just became bland and average, they did the same with Gary Fisher and Klein
Great interview, I followed his career since the days of Motorola and the Tour Du Pont. Me and my cycling buddies who I raced with always thought that he was doping ever since his '99 tour win. We still watched and rooted for him while also defending him because they were all doping but he became the scapegoat because he was so vehemently defiant and asshole toward anyone who accused him of doping. I still believe he was the best and most talented cyclist, who won 7 tours.
The scapegoat, exactly. He only leveled the playing field but he immediately became an easy target for public lynching.
For my cycling races have lost everything. I am not interested any longer. Thanks Lance and all the others who doped and lied about it! I did not watch the interview. Lance Armstrong does not deserve any attention any longer!
fantastic show, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Enjoyed this interview immensely! Loved the candor and contrition that Lance showed. We all make mistakes as humans so the important thing is to learn from them and strive to become better.
I’m 57 and rarely post a comment. I also don’t know who Joe is. I’m out of words to describe how good this interview was, from 00:00 to 1:25:00! I was a weekend warrior and my first 2 bikes were USPS Treks. Never lost respect for Lance to this day. The only event I watch is The Tour, and the only podcast I listen to is Lance’s. Really enjoyed it. My sincere best wishes for Lance from a fan from Puerto Rico.
PS: Of course I got the band.
“I will have success again in my life”
01:03:40 The words of a champion in the ring of life. Dude is a hustler.
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Grew up loving Lance. Watched every tour as a black kid in Indiana. He was the Michael Jordan of the sport and brought so many eyes to the sport. I relentlessly believed and defended him until the Oprah interview. I wasn’t disappointed when he admitted. The doping doesn’t matter to me but his treatment of people did. But I can’t judge. When you are on that high of a ride I don’t know if anyone would have done differently if they weren’t a saint. I do wish we could forget about the scandal and actually talk about the career. That man was a monster athlete especially considering everyone had the same enhancement. Lance on a bike was like watching poetry in motion.
I only watched cycling when he was dominating the sport. I know he made mistakes, especially about the cover up, but he still rode each and every mile of those races. He’s appropriately humiliated and I’m glad he’s moved on to a new life. Very smart, cool guy.
Yeah, let’s just forget about all the lives he ruined and that by all accounts he is a bully and a narcissistic areshole, who doped rampantly, his whole career built on a massive lie. He was a cheat and a fraud. Yeah, but sure he’s a smart cool guy😂🤦♀🙄
Great interview, really enjoyed it.
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Polarizing is the word but I think Lance is a good man and doing really good things with his time. I'd 100% watch him win those tours all over again!! It was so interesting watching him think, reflect and wrestle with the unchangeable past. Great interview Joe!
Only thing is he DIDN'T WIN THOSE TOURS, Jason. I promise you that. He knew the penalty, that's why he fought long and hard to keep it under wraps, and it worked for quite a while, too long. It took Travis Tygart, an American believe it or not, to finally bring the charade to a close and restore a little sanity to the sport of cycling by stripping him of those 7 Tour titles. Am I bitter and angry at Lance? No, not any more, he earned what he got.
@@scooter2163 I definitely respect your opinion - its why I started my post with 'Polarizing'.
lance is the man. I love his podcast "the move" he does....great pro cycling insight.
Great interview that! Watched & shared! Lance continues to be an inspiration 👊🏼
He's a loser so that means you're inspired by losers. All those riders on that podium were also injecting multiple PED's. They're losers too. It wasn't until they got to the guys around 5th place on down where they didn't find the PED & those guys without drugs did pretty good which means that without the drugs, losers like Lance woulda never finished the race!!! Loser Lance knew he wasn't NOWHERE near the athletic level of those other riders but he SO DESPERATELY wanted to be like them & he ENVIED them.
"A man must know his limitations" & loser Lance knew his limitations because early in his career he was NOWHERE near a top level pro. He was a SINGLE event racer. He couldn't even hang a back to back single event! Here's how the doctor who exposed the loser tricks that Loser Lance used to greatly enhance his borderline pro rider abilities had to say:
"By increasing his red blood cell count through the injections, he was able to go undetected because his counts were in line with the other top riders BUT the REALITY was that he actually had average red cells where as top pro athlete's naturally produce more. There was no way to test for the drug at that time. So he artificially & illegally doubled his cell counts where as the top athlete's wouldn't be able to double their counts with the illegal drug because the body has a cap on how much red cells we can produce. To put it more simply in a figurative analogy with this type of drug, YOU CAN TURN A DONKEY INTO A RACEHORSE, BUT THE ACTUAL REAL RACE HORSE WILL STILL BE A REGULAR RACE HORSE".
So there u have it! You're inspired by the DONKEY (Loser) & I'll continue to be inspired by the actual racehorses🤡
7 time tour champ! great interview hopefully time will heal those you have hurt...time to forgive this dude
Lance Armstrong era was fantastic with his battles with jan ullrich .
Not proud of the way he handled the whole exposure of the scandal, but at the end of the day, he won those 7 tours. He was just a scapegoat. The field was loaded with EPO, and too a point, probably still is today. Lance exposed me to cycling and he's the reason my wife and I purchased our first road bikes. If it weren't for a lot of close calls on the roads here in Alabama, I'd still be riding today. I still have my Team Discovery jersey! I'm glad he's doing well and will not forget everything he did for cancer and for cycling. Cycling is more popular in America because of Lance. The Tour has been boring ever since because there's no American who can contend for the wins.
So most of this has to do with you and cycling trailing back somewhere? At least you were honest.
I want to like Lance, don't we all, frankly in this video he shows what a jerk he is. He blasts Novitsky for investigating him? Lance committed a fraud. Everyone else doing it doesn't absolve him. He committed a crime and he paid the price for it. Only because of his notoriety did he get approached in a bar in Aspen (of all places) to invest in a fund. Then at the end when he can have the shot to show contrition to people he's destroyed, he still doesn't do it and Joe doesn't ask him to do it.
I did think for most of this that Lance actually showed humility and honesty, but he's yet to REALLY apologize to the likes of David Walsh, Damien Ressiot, Frankie Andreu, Emma O'Reilly and so many others. When he can get up there and not show hostility to those lawmen that chased him and can show contrition to the people he destroyed, then I might consider being a fanboy, but it's been a bit too long coming.
Joe - you could have asked those hard questions, why not?
he's going to answer those questions in the Paul Kimmage interview :) Emma O'Reilly's book paints a fairly horrific picture of what went on. What he did to her with the lawsuit was unforgivable.
@@kingoffifa this to me is why Lance is a shizzy person. It's not that he doped, it's that he didn't just deny, deny, deny, he went after people maliciously when he was lying, and didn't care what he did to destroy them. He should apologize and make restitution to them. Period.
@@scottdinhofer2104 exactly. I doubt we'll ever see it. he's spent the last 10 years reverse sportswashing his past. those skeletons will remain firmly in the closet.
A typical representative of the contemporary USA. Huge self-confidence, minimal knowledge of the world, zero command of foreign languages and a pack of lies. I hope he has already returned all the money to his sponsors and the people who trusted him.
Lance is a freak of nature. Truly one of the greatest of all endurance athletes ever to grace the road !
I've followed Lance's career since before his illness and this has to be my favorite interview. Nice work!
So what? In retrospect you have followed a lying, cheating, two faced scum bag. I’d keep y to that quiet if I was you.
Greg Lemond is the greatest American cyclist of all time.
Lance is the greatest rider of all time for me.
Not rider, bullshitter.
@@lukespack Rider to me.
The best at doping and getting away with it.
Who else have you watched or studied?
No question about it
Good to see Lance in 2022. Thank you for this Episode! Been there to see the Rise and Fall of Lance . The many epic stage wins in TDF. So much witnessed in 20 years. Grateful to have been there. Truly Blessed at the moment. Thank YOU Life!
Thanks for the exploration and interview !
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-always has been and always will be the champ
Lance is a hero and nothing the UCI or other hypocrites do can diminish his accomplishments.
You should check the facts. Armstrong severely damaged people's lives and got away with it. He's an embarrassment to cycling.
@@christaalbrecht67 only because people were trying to fukc him over first
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He won TDF seven times in a row. Only Armstrong has won more than five. Only four or five have won five. Only two won five in a row.
His chief competitors were all suspended for doping, several during his career.
When they stripped him of his TDF titles, they wanted to award those races to others but couldn't find anyone "clean" to award those races.
Doping has been a problem in cycling, probably from the beginning. It is probably still a problem. The demands of the sport are immense.
Thanks Lance, this interview gave me nuance that filled in the holes
A great interview and what's good to see is Lance's ownership and significant growth on the matter.