Wheres your boy Kizaru? I remember you being dead convinced that he'll be back and sacrifice himself to save Luffy, defy the gorosei, go all out and $hits. Oda legit forgot about that guy.
Interesting. As a Shanks Fan, I can definitely see where you're coming from. Regarding Haki as a whole, I believe there around the same level, but excell in different areas. Essentially: Armament Haki: Mihawk>Shanks (permanent Black Blade). Observation Haki: Shanks~Mihawk (I believe that they're comparable in this one). Conqueror's Haki: Shanks>Mihawk (Mihawk is 100% going to have Conqueror's Haki. While I'm not sure if it'll be just as or even more powerful than Shanks, he shouldn't be too far in this aspect). Overall Haki: Shanks=Mihawk. Personally, I have Shanks=Mihawk both in Haki and overall strength. From what I've seen until now, the fact that their last duel was never settled (I think a One Piece episode talked about it), it leads me to believe that they're equals even today. I doubt that either of them became stagnant after so long. So, until something happens, like Shanks dropping his sword and saying "I stopped considering myself a swrodsman after I lost my arm" and starts pulling Haki Susano'os and Haki Kamehamehas, he's equal to Mihawk at best. Just to make sure, this is an opinion coming from someone who is still learning more about One Piece Scaling and, is admittedly, a Shanks fan. This could very well be both my lack of knowledge or bias speaking.
horrible take based on pure head canon. Mihawk has more anti feats than actual good feats considering vista went toe to toe with him and jozu pretty comfortably stopped an attack that was intended for WHITEBEARD so obviously a huge one.
@@olixxdagoatwhile shanks lost an arm to a sea fish fodder and got a scar to his left eye by bb(no df) by your logic mihawk=vista>>>>>>>>>>>sea fish fodder>>>>bb>>>>>>>>>>>>shanks i get it now😂😂😂😂
@@olixxdagoatMihawk haven’t used a named attack he just flaunts his blade and marineford stared in awe. He didn’t want to really stopped luffy and was holding back against those you just called
"i dont go all out to hunt a mere rabbit", says everything about mihawk. he will use strong attacks against strong opponents and normal attacks against normal opponents, its that simple.
@@rejisonzachariah5494 So since whitebeard is stated to be the strongest man/pirate by the narrator, marines, pirates, and people alike it was no rabbit hunt since that was the strongest person in all of one piece so that means mihawk was trying his best or near his best when he tried to attack whitebeard
@@theonewhostandsaboveall didnt u pay attention to what mihawk said in marineford?, in the manga mihawk said like this before attacking " this is merely conjecture , but the distance between that man and us seems rather small", do u get what that means?, i dont have to explain it to you right?
@@rejisonzachariah5494 you are totally right about what he says about the distance being rather small however, you must also acknowledge the fact that he says it is merely conjecture “ CONJECTURE” = [an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.] That is the correct definition for conjecture. [An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information. ] So Hawkeye acknowledges that even a sick old white beard on that marine ford day was stronger than him and everyone else which is why he says the distance is rather small because there’s still a distance between them. Once again, it was stated by the narrator, senGoku and everyone else there multiple times over that white beard was the strongest person, pirate, living thing in the one piece verse at that time
Full spoilers haven't even released yet and it may not be the case as road to laughtale 4billion if I recall implied that the forging of a Kokuto requires something more than haki otherwise Roger would've one.
@@SeanEvans-mx1ggso the dude who recently had an episode showcasing how broken his observation is, has weaker observation than the guy who’s observation we’ve barley seen any of yet, mind you shanks is the “observation killer” but I’m supposed to believe mihawk has two categories of haki above shanks? I know we haven’t seen much of what either of them can really do but ima need some convincing to get to that conclusion 😂
Truth is you're just illiterate. Mihawk is an endgame boss for one of the main fighters. Why would Oda have him do ANYTHING significant before then? Even Imu is stuck in a room unable to go anywhere or do anything. Only flexed a portion of his power once and currently only gives empty speech bubbles and reactions..... Just like Mihawk. He even has less scenes than Mihawk ever since his introduction. Guess Oda doesn't care about Imu even more, by your logic. Y'all legit have preschool level comprehension and create the most braindead takes. 😹😂😂
Facts bro, people pretend like Mihawk doesn't have good Haki because they haven't "seen it yet 🤓" or something like that, brother's name is 'Hawkeye' or even 'Clairvoyant' in his concept designs 😤🙏
This dude has litteraly no haki feat and couldn't even get past Vista or Joz in Marineford, he couldn't even get the attention of Whitebeard who didn't even react to his strike and ignored entirely his presence on thd battlefield (but yeah he would totally ignore Shanks and not jump and attack him at sight given the menace he represents, he would let his sons do the job I guess), what the fuck are we even talking about here ? So Marco sent Vista against a dude as strong as Roger ? A guy who dodge all relevant fights or events every time he can ? A guy with no ambition, motivation or fighting spirit when haki is the materialization of ambition, motivation and fighting spirit ? Buggy having more ambition and spirit than Croc and Mihawk being treated as a fucking joke and humiliation by Oda doens't ring a bell to you ? In contrast do I need to remember you that Whitebeard attacked red hair personally, or that Shanks stopped the Marineford war by himself, that he stopped Kaido and appreared in his top 5 after, that he one shotted a dude stronger than Vista and humiliated an admiral at distance ? And you're talking about portrayal about a dude who possess a title nobody cares about and only concern swordskills whatever this means ? The more the story advance, the more we see new top tier sword users that Mihawk never fought wich is incoherent with the way you interpret his title in the sense that he should have beaten all top tier swordsmen to be considered the strongest otherwise we would have no way to tell. Like what will you do when Luffy will fight Shanks while Zoro fight Mihawk ? Since the crossguild is in the race for the One piece he's going to fight other yonkou crews and organizations, and giving the setup it looks like a battle royale centered around this dude marked by flame, so while Shanks is fighting Luffy who do you think will fight Mihawk in the meantime ? How will you react when Luffy will have it hard against Shanks and Zoro against Mihawk ? What will be your excuse this time ? Will you say that "he was chasing rabbits" cause I guess that his attack destined to whitebeard who was stop easily by Joz was him not trying lol... Shanks conqueror's haki is so strong that he was able to paralyze and make an admiral scream from miles away, I know that Mihawk fans are upset because Oda doesn't give a fuck about him and only makes Shanks shine, but could we at least stop saying that a dude we saw nearly nothing about and the limited amount of time we saw him doing actions or fight was extremly disappointing or downright pathetic and ignored by major players doesn't nessecerely have the same techniques and haki mastery as a guy who has the best feats in the manga ? Even when it comes to observation Shanks is above for now by seeing 10 seconds or more in the future, all Mihawk has is interpretations for his epithet and that time when he was about to cut Luffy's arm and Luffy dodged, wich could mean a lot of things and even if it would refer to observation haki it wouldn't be usefull to compare it with Shanks, plus red hair can annul it anyway. You're comparing a dude with a shit ton of antifeats with the litteral representation of haki in the manga, Shanks litteraly was the first to use conqueror's haki, the first to split the sky, the first to break matter with it and the first to use it as a concentrated mental attack... Like Mihawk is the strongest in the verse now ? Is this Zoro piece ? This dude isn't even listed among the major players of the final saga for god sake... most of your video is just you defending Mihawk by leeching on Shanks feats in reason of a rivalry that's passed since ten years when Shanks wasn't even a yonkou and had a bounty around 1 billion, a yonkou commander level character at best (and no someone as strong as Kaido with a powerfull crew wouldn't be given a bounty of million territories or not, this is straight up ridiculous and that's just Mihawk fan trying to say tha Shanks didn't progress to maintain their agenda). All that shit is a circular argument anyway, "Mihawk has stronger conqueror's haki because I think that he's stronger than Shanks" while litteraly everything points to the opposite direction... For real we don't even know what his title means and who's concerned by it, like King uses his sword most of the time and have excellent sword skills but isn't a swordsman, the daimyos in prison with Yamato were considered great Swordmasters while Zoro is only a swordmaster despite being stronger than them indicating that there is more to the swordsmen hierarchy and technique than straight up haki, Roger was the strongest sword user but never had the title of WSS nor was ever called a swordmaster or great swordmaster and Luffy himself put the king of the pirate above the WSS in the begining of the manga (being the wss is the bare minimum for the swordsman of the pirate king), Brandnew refers to it as having better swordskill only instead of saying that he was straight up stronger than Shanks while we learned that Shanks had powerfull abilities outside of his swordskills like being able to annul your observation haki or launching mental attacks of concentrated conqueror's haki that can paralyze and making scream and ditransform a fucking admiral, he even can thelepatically communicate with his haki... This shit makes less and less sense the more we advance in the manga.
@@laraison6020 imagine typing an entire essay 😂 First things first, Mihawk isn't only the best in "sword skill" so let's stop you right there. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, not the most skilled swordsman. His haki is above the rest, how? Black blade through haki that he himself stated. Also, Zoro magazine confirms haki~~swordsmanship so stay mad.
@@Immmboreddd why is Zoro only a swordmaster and the daimios are great swordmaster then ? Zoro has a weaker haki than them I guess ? Why didn't Roger had the title of WSS in his time, why was he and Shanks never called swordsmen in the manga (and no I don't give a fuck about external sources or comments out of context with shitty translation or everything that is not directly in the manga) ? If that shit isn't about swordskill, why did Brandnew specified that Mihawk had better swordskill than red hair instead of straight up saying that he was stronger than him ? Especially when Oda reaveled that Shanks had important abilities outside of swordsmanship like being able to cancel observation haki or launching concentrated conqueror's haki attacks ? Why didn't Mihawk fought any of the top tier swordsmen like Big Mom, Nosjuro, Garling, Shanks brother with two arms or Fujitoa if he's really the strongest ? I thought that he didn't have any concurrence left, but there is plenty still left isn't it ? And most importantly why Mihawk, Vista and Zoro are the only persons who care about this title ? Why none of the swordsmen presented in one piece want this fraudulent title ? And don't tell me that they are afraid because Vista, who is way weaker than the ones I mentioned above, was ready and happy to fight him and Shanks even proposed to settle the score... Also the magazines aren't even written by Oda but Shueisha employes, so this shit has no value, and don't make a fool out of yourself, unlike you I don't need external sources to argue any of my points, everything is in the manga... This is circular logic, you think that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks, so you think he has better conqueror's despite everything in the manga pointing to the opposite. Even the author of this video confessed that he had no real arguments to put Mihawk above Shanks in terms of conqueror's haki... You didn't respond to any argument by the way, I just note that you think Marco sent Vista against Roger and Whitebeard let Roger wander around the battlefield without ever facing him... Also you weren't able to prove me that Shanks didn't progress since his duel with Mihawk so all of you narrative falls flat.
Mihawk already proved he can be at Shanks, when he first brought Luffy's wanted poster to Shanks. Shanks thought he wanted to duel but Mihawk said he had no interest in dueling him anymore since he lost his arm. That proves Hawkeye would wipe the floor with the one arm red hair pirate Shanks, and to do that he would definitely have every type of haki.💯😎👍
As kind of a rule of thumb, the later a character is fought by the main crew, the stronger he is. Mihawk is final boss for Zoro, Shanks isn't final boss for Luffy. It's a very meta take, and IMHO Shanks vs Mihawk could go either way, but I'm leaning towards Mihawk if I had to choose. Which would have sounded insane to me a year ago.
bro in the entirety of one piece verse - two people have black blade. only two. ---- riyuma and mehawk. not roger. not whitebeard not shanks . not a single person who fights with sword. not even figerland. it says a lot.
4:14 also remember when mihawk told zoro if hes an actual swordsman hed know hes way weaker than him implying a good enough swordsman would have this application of observation haki at the bare minimum
@@YollE88 Common sense is just that. Common. It says nothing about the reality of something. Just what people commonly believe. So dream away. One Piece is a story about dreams after all. 😅
Yeah, mihawk literally uses a stronger attack later on in the arc but somehow the slash against WB, which is a one handed sword swing with great distance, is supposed to be stronger.
There was little to no reaction from shanks upper brass when mihawk came to meet shanks however when shanks came to meet white beard, all of white beards pirates, and including his top commanders, were sweating bullets
@@Muffin11262 actually the one sent to white beard may very well be the strongest/he sent in all of marine Ford/slashes over distance are actually a feet of great strength in one piece Zorro comments that in sky Island against Ohm he also commented against Pica in Dressrosa. White beard is stated to be the strongest person and pirate at Marine Ford so why would Miha not use his strongest attack towards white beard
@@theonewhostandsaboveall "y would he not use his strongest attack against him?" Idk? Ask oda. Regardless, its pretty clear which attack between the one that cut the giant iceberg, also used with two hands, vs the one which was barely the size of WB's ship and was used with a single hand, is stronger. Plus, both the manga and anime emphasized the ice berg slash to be wayyyy above the first one. And whatever u said in the first paragraph also applies to the second slash bcz that was also sent with a great distance yet it did 10x more damage. Mihawk did not slash the iceberg directly, there was a great distance there as well.
@@theonewhostandsaboveall yeah bcz they have seen shanks and mihawk meet, duel and party all their life, maybe? And shanks literally himself got cautious when he asked mihawk if he was there to fight him. And mihawk didn't visit the red haired crew throwing around his haki knocking everyone out either.
That’s your opinion. You are using pure headcanon to say that mihawk has stronger conq haki than shanks despite shanks showing the best conq feats, its like me saying while mihawk has a black blade, i belive shanks armament its stronger . And if you want to use narrative, narratively luffy’s goal(shanks) should be greater than zoro’s goal(mihawk)
How does mihawk even have a title in the first place when he couldn't defeat shanks ever Like in hundreds of duels he couldn't defeat shanks , he virtually shares the title with shanks as the world's strongest swordsman because he clearly is not the strongest because he an equal in the world @@SuperiorI.Q
@@theworld.uZoro has advanced conquerors haki and wants to surpass Mihawk who is the strongest swordsman in the world and who also wants to fight somebody stronger than Shanks. Conquerors haki coating is the strongest haki application a swordsman can apply for their swords. Some of the best swordsman in the verse have advanced conquerors coating and Mihawk is the strongest. Haki is intrinsically linked to a swordsman’s power and skill. I don’t know what to tell you dude; the story practically spells it out.
I think that Zoro is proof that Mihawk is stronger and that Mihawk isn’t just skilled. It would defeat the purpose of Zoro’s dream if Mihawk wasn’t actually the strongest but just very skilled.
@@HOWareyou321_1 surpassing shanks = surpassing mihawk because shanks and mihawk pretty much the same as mentioned in the story that they used to be equal in combat until shanks lost an arm
The Mihawk glaze is real you just said shanks is proven to kill observation haki and you put Mohawk above him shanks is the first person in the series to break inanimate objects with just his prescience without clashing with someone else miahwk is better than him at armorment that’s it
@@SuperiorI.Q I don’t know if the is factual just I read it somewhere that he combines his observation with his conquers to kill off people observation again I’m not sure if this is true or not
Real swordmanship and therefore One Piece's is about the one who lands the cut wins, so only one move is enough. also you are much more careful to avoid a blade than a punch.
Man I love both Mihawk and Shanks and I glaze them up to the point I think they beat every character pre-timeskip but I just don't get the "Mihawk is superior to Shanks* nor "Haki is the only thing that matters". Whitebeard was strong mainly cuz his fruit and physical strenght and I doubt a relative Roger who most likely shares Shanks fight-style was a better swordsman than Mihawk.
Even before watching the video, i have always believed Mihawk probably has better armament haki than shanks because of the so called black blade, while shanks probably has better mastery over conquerors(because oda advertises it as such) observation i have no clue who to judge higher
I'm not really a fan of either character, but I just can't see Mihawk being stronger than Shanks, especially in CoC, simply for this reason: -Luffy has to surpass Shanks. -Zoro has to surpass Mihawks. Luffy will always be > Zoro. So Shanks should be > Mihawk. How complicated is that?
however your reading two piece why? shanks haki does not come near to joyboys haki and luffy will have that level of haki at the end of series shanks is not luffys final opponent while mihawk is zoros final opponent
@@sheenakr7616 Mihawk is not Zoro's final opponent unless you think Zoro will fight Mihawk after he fights/beats Samurai Gandhi. Luffy and Zoro will definitely surpass Shanks and Mihawk respectively, but due to the power structure of Luffy and Zoro, the same will be applied to Shanks and Mihawk
@@ajs3060 Now i am convinced you are a two piece reader, in the current events of the manga buggy has used his influence to change the cross guilds aim to find the one piece, this means laughtale is now the centre of everything in one piece the marines are now aiming to get the one piece before the pirates and that means all the top tiers are aiming for one piece including mihawk who is stuck in cross guild mihawk is zoros finals opponent, cry more also the 5 elders are fodders infront of joyboy haki, gandhi is no longer a top tier and by final arc luffy will beat gandhi with conquerors haki alone
@@ajs3060 this is an insane cope, mihawk high diffs shanks, lmao, Luffy might have to surpass joyboy, and mihawk has really good narrative scalling, as Zoro might become the world's strongest in history.
@@Immmboreddd this is a comparison between him n shanks. if you analyse both characters and their ambitions, it is obvious shanks has better conqueror's haki and conqueror's haki is king. mihawk's best feat are tales of his battle's with shanks. As for Shanks, we have heard alot. His will was so strong all the factions of the war conceded to it. Overrall Shanks has better haki and mihawk "only" better with the sword
I feel like every time we seen Mihawk "fight", he just did the equivalent of launching some "auto attacks" and a few "basic abilities" then got bored and decided a glass of wine would be more fulfilling than dispersing that petty rabble.
Shanks legit has the most impressive haki feat in the series stuning a admiral level threat from miles way is something no one has done in the stories at minimum shanks has better conquers and observation.Observation cause shanks cancels out future sight something only he can do.Mihawk most like had better armament and thats it
Just CUs he can cancel out OBSERVATUON doesn’t mean his observation is better, unless you think his observation is what’s cancelling it out. I agree though shanks has way better and most impressive haki feats.
7:36 I’m gonna explain it because why not 😈 in short, we know that everyone with big names in the New World have at least some form of conqueror Haki if you think about it, look at how Zoro got his. Zoro wants to stand the top of swordsmanship which as of now in one piece is Mihawk so him not having it wouldn’t make sense since his ambition is just to be at the top and his is at the top.
Not a hot take at all. Mihawk is the current WSS which means that he stands above every single swordsman including Shanks. Shanks’ fans mention his ACOC but fail to realise that it’s low-key Mihawk upscale. If Mihawk rose to WSS without COC/ACOC that could be the single most insane feat in the whole story.
Even his title is worthless because he never won against shanks lol In his hundreds of duels against him mihawk never achieved even a single victory He cannot be the STRONGEST if he has an equal in this world His title is dubious , mf is a fraud
I think a lot of these arguments are a stretch at best. Based on current facts, shanks indisputably has the best observation haki in the series and can kill the observation haki of others. We know mihawk has top tier observation haki but if shanks is currently at the ceiling of observation haki development, then mihawk can’t have a significant edge over him on it. At best they will be equal assuming shanks is currently at the ceiling and mihawk is comparable. Assuming mihawk forged the black blade himself, then he is better at armament (specifically imbuement), but if he didn’t and acquired an already blackened yoru, then we currently have no bona fide evidence he is significantly superior to shanks in this regard. As likely as it is mihawk will have conquerors haki he just hasn’t demonstrated any. Meanwhile, shanks is disabling admirals with Wi-Fi. Right now it’s pretty much impossible to argue anybody has better or even comparable conquerors haki than shanks. Shanks and mihawk were evenly matched prior to shanks becoming a yonko. Has shanks remained the same after being a yonko? Probably not. Mihawk has probably also gotten stronger, but being a yonko is a harder title to achieve than worlds strongest swordsman. What mihawk is indisputably better at than shanks is sword techniques. Out fencing baratie zoro with a butter knife, instantly cutting up Daz bones, perfectly cutting a massive frozen wave in half, redirecting bullets with a turn of his blade, these are things that we haven’t seen shanks do and that is hard to imagine him doing. Shanks fights by overwhelming his opponents with sheer willpower, and his sword is more of a haki challenging tool than anything else. He as of the current writing indisputably has better haki than mihawk and Mihawks fancy sword techniques cannot get around that. The fact shanks brought an admiral to his knees not with his blade, but with lightning streams of conquerors haki, says all we need to know the true backbone of his fighting style. Aside from shanks disabling green bull with pure haki streams from a distance, we recently saw Garp nuke an island with a ryou + conquerors infused fist, and joy boy stored a haki bomb inside Emeth. So oda is starting to introduce advanced forms of haki that essentially work as energy blasts, which all the top tier haki users are probably going to display. All this to say, at least as currently written, mihawk is not exceeding shanks in haki or overall strength. I see shanks extreme diffing mihawk, but that’s not to downplay mihawk. I put both of them over kaido, old beard and old garp.
😂 Why you think Shanks haki is the best? He is literally a side character, not the main villians or the protagonists. He has mid-top-tier haki at best, that is evident by him not having a black blade. His haki is not on tier with people like Imu, Joyboy, Ryuma and Mihawk.
@@worldbosspf1and mihawk is a main protagonist or antagonist because he made his blade black... can you see how so Stoopid and dumb your comment is lol.
@@biglow7027You forget Mihawk said im not interested in a one armed man, and the day before he fought pre timeskip zoro, because fighting fodder is more honorable than fighting a stronger shanks than the one he fought 12 years ago, the shanks that wasn’t a yonko 😂😂😂
To update you, Mihawk's fight with Shanks was at least 13 years ago. Now it no longer has the meaning of being equal or anything. Author Oda said that Mihawk was waiting for someone stronger than Shanks to challenge him. Don't mention haki anymore :)))... In fact, Oda affirms that Mihawk is the strongest swordsman and the accompanying list is Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks,... so there is no need to argue much.
I personally think that - mihawk is apove shanks, SBS tells us that mihawk waits for someone that surpasses shanks ( why would he wait for someone like this if shanks is equal to him or stronger?) - being a swordsman can't be done only by sword play, haki must be a factor as well and if you are the WSS then you really have either the strongest CQC, armament, future sight... Or a mix of all 3 but one of them is superior to others ( i think is armament is top 3 in one piece) - mihawk is stronger than ryma because welding a supreme grade black sword is only shown to be done from mihawk and him alone ( gandi weld supreme grade, fujitora, Roger, whitebeard, and many others and non of them made permanent black blade) So everything lining up perfectly for zoro even shanks as well, if strawhats went to elbaf and met shanks then definitely he will help zoro somehow to get him ready for ( final arc and then mihawk) The help of 2nd WSS will be logical
Yes indeed. Haki is always a factor. There is literally no such thing as a "haki man." It's an augmentative power (of offense, defense, and reaction time/awareness). You don't just haki people to death other than basic conquerors to knock out fodder. The only quasi exception is the wifi haki shanks used. If we want to be tech I am and say that "haki men/women" are a thing, then literally everyone who uses haki (even those ok Pekoms level and below) are haki people, and for whatever reason, one piece fans always understand this until the discussion of Shanks vs Mihawk comes up.
there is nothing unreasonable about thinking mihawk is better in a specific haki type. but just saying haki in general is too much. The only moment i could think of that suggests mihawk used observation haki was when he fought vista during the war. because he was fighting him without even looking at him. which is crazy thing to be able top do against someone like vista. as releigh displayed when teaching luffy. it looks you to react to things you do not see.
"Same dude who couldnt get past vista 🤡" Sengoku told to the warlord and his fighters to not interfere and kill the WB pirates. Mihawk didn't even care about this little exchange either. Like what did you expect from mihawk's fight with vista????? mihawk going on full strength over a swordsman that is a billion times weaker than him? fk no. The reason why mihawk didn't go on full strength against vista is because he said this in the baratie: "I don't kill a rabbit with a cannon" that means mihawk doesn't go on full strength over some weak ahh fodders like vista. Lets be honest, the reason why vista was able to "evenly match" mihawk is because mihawk wasn't even trying at all. Like look at the anime, you'll see that vista was trying his hardest to fight a (non trying) mihawk lmao. "Got parried by croc 🤡" Mihawk's clash with crocodile is just nothing. Clashes are insanely overrated in this series. A guy like gecko Moria can clash with kaido or licci can fist clash with luffy and we saw how licci got no diffed by luffy. Clashing happens all the time between characters. That don't belong in the same convo as their peers.
@@AdamThomas-vf4opthat logic should apply with Mihawk, oda is saving a lot of things for him when he’s shown, even someone like dragon or Garp weren’t confirmed coc haki users when they are
My idea why mihawk has a black blade as opposed to shanks who doesnt (and even roger and oden) is that you not only need strong enough haki but you need to master the sword, mihawk being the strongest swordsman and ryuma being ryuma it makes sense why these 2 would be able to achieve a black blade (sorry if you mentioned it in the video already im still watching i just wanted to say that)
This might be ur worse argument yet bro but Im here for it 🤣 Your last point is exactly Why Shanks is stronger than Mihawk, even tho Mihawk is the better swordsman. Your point is still wrong from the foundation, because you’re putting Haki and Swordsmanship as One and the Same when they are Not. When you Yourself literally states in the last point that Kaido mentioned, Haki is above all. Therefore = Haki and Swordsmanship are 2 DIFFERENT Things. Mihawk is a better sword fighter than Shanks but bcus Shanks has better Conquerors, he will still win in the end. You cant say Oh but since hes the Better swordsman, that automatically means = He will have the stronger Haki / Conquerors. Doesnt work that way bro, theyre 2 different things 🤣
haki is tied to swordsmanship,what did zoro learn during the ts to be a better swordsman? what did zoro learn in his fight with king to become a better swordsman?
@@Bon-Kaizer I never said Haki wasnt tied to swordsmanship. Haki can be combined with every fighting style. But it doesnt mean Having stronger Swords Skills = Stronger Haki Theyre 2 different things.
@@MrYondaime705 this is all contradicted by the manga,breath of all things is a skill yet is tied directly to haki(read chapter 939),you cant be top 1 in skill as a swordsman top 1 haki to back it up
@@Bon-Kaizer Fuckin hell, I never said Haki itself wasnt a Skill. Observation Haki is a Skill Armament Haki is a Skill Conquerors Haki is a Skill But a Sword Skill doesn’t mean Haki. You can combine a Sword Skill and Haki Skill like what Zoro did to finally wound Kaido, but thats a combination of 2 skills. Its not just a sword skill. 🤦♂️
@@MrYondaime705 your not reading what im saying,breath of all things is a swords skill yes? and it's directly tied to haki yes? so swordskill=haki the strength of your haki determines the skill of a swordsman,what has zoro done to increase his skill as a swordsman during the time skip to current day? all hes done is learn haki and make it stronger lol
Mihawk is the true 4th emperor. If buggy crew runs into any of the other emperors it will be him fighting the captian and probably giving them a true rum for their money.
@@kennethdavy4051 He is literally Buggy's underling for everybody Buggy is the emperor and Mihawk is in his crew and power can't change that like Admiral or even CP 0 are so strong but they still underling to even the trash Celestial dragons.
@@sgtm1921 you do realise Cross Guild is ran by Crocodile and Mihawk? Buggy works for them, but since the poster had Buggy as the main star, he took the title of emperor, simply because of a mistake. How is Mihawk an underling?
Shanks can see the future Mihawk can show you the future. Luffy literally stopped running up on Mihawk cause he saw a future where he gets cut to pieces by him
Mihawk gets constantly glazed. By Shanks showing off. Necause he’s stated to be the strongest swordsman and is the reason Shanks got so strong in the first place.
*Based on the fact that Oda has carefully chosen his words and decided to say that Mihawk only surpasses Shanks at swordplay, it is implied that Shanks is, overall, the stronger fighter. If Shanks and Mihawk were to engage in a duel of pure swordplay, it would be clear for one to see that Mihawk would stand at the top*
I will join by saying that he can still fight Mihawk to a draw. Shanks could never beat Mihawk, and the opposite is true that Mihawk could never beat Shanks. The narrative had been clear on that they were more or less equals. The only reason they stopped their duels is that Mihawk really got annoyed that Shanks gave up his arm for some kid.
@@OfficialMrRelax "ONLY" was never said. That makes a huge difference. Using the word "only" means nothing more, when manga and anime stated he has greater skills and exceeds shanks in sword play, Oda hasn't ever used the word "only" with mihawk, so you're just straight up using headcanon.
That was the perfect interpretation of what Otis said you are completely right however, I also want to add that it is very apparent, especially when you look at pictures of younger shanks, he lost his dominant arm, his dominant sword arm when he was bit by the sea king, therefore that we can shank sword skill, maybe not his overall power as a fighter, but his sword skill so when him and mihawk duel it is now in mihawks favor
As a mihawk supporter i disagree,its entirely possible mihawk has slightly worse haki and makes up for it with his significantly stronger sword and greater skill.
Especially seeing as the offical sbs entry had literally said he had even better sword skill than red hair shanks that would moat likely be the case. There's also the fact that shanks and mihawk haven't dueled in at least 12 years as they haven't dueled since before he lost his arm. They both have different goals. People also ignore the fact that zoros goal is to surpass mihawk but luffy has also stated that one of his goals is to surpass shanks.
“ Haki transcends everything “ so your saying , mihawk swordsmanship with a little weaker haki will be able to beat someone with better haki + close swordsmanship to yours ? not making sense buddy
I think the Shanks and Mihawk dynamic is just the modern day Roger and Whitebeard. One has better portrayal and the other has a title but they’re both equals that have never defeated eachother.
@@kota8927 nope buddy read ace novel volume 2 chapter 3 , he had the strongest pirate title due to his life as a pirate second , he also has the title due to his devil fruit power being able to the destroys the world
Bro proved nothing for now we know shanks>mihawk Shanks has conquerors mihawk no U said a lot of things about obserbation but sadly shanks is observation killer so mihawk now only has armament haki and mihawk all 3 so yes shanks has better haki In terms of sword sience mihawk doesnt has observation and conquerors only can endurance it with armament haki and shanks can endurance it with conquerors (one of best conquerors) and armament haki so now mihawk doesnt stand a chance sience shanks can see all his next moves mihawk only is better in terms of swordplay And when mihawk saw shanks on the island he said him "IM NOT INTERESTED TO SETTLE THE SCORE" So shanks>mihawk cry abt it mihawk dik riders 😂😂
Forging a permanent black blade like Shusui or Yoru will likely require advanced conqueror's haki since the other person except Mihawk to forge such a blade was Ryuma, who was considered a literal God. Those are the only two, confirmed instances. Even people like Whitebeard, Roger, Reileigh and Shanks have ridiculously strong advanced conqueror's haki and still don't have a permanent black blade. And three of them are confirmed swordsmen.
Mihawk is not a fraud because of his weakness; he is the World’s Strongest Swordsman for a reason, and without question, he is one of the strongest characters in the series. He is considered a fraud, however, because of his nonchalant demeanor. He’d rather relax and drink wine in his castle than sail out and challenge all fighters like a typical main character from some shounen series with no common sense (e.g., Goku, Luffy, Naruto, Yuji, etc.). So, while he is a calculating and somewhat introverted character, he is undeniably super strong. Once Oda reveals Mihawk’s true strength, I’m guessing that the community will be shocked and unprepared for him.
@@Rubilacxee Armament Haki doesn't even matter when you have advanced conqueror's Haki cause you're not infusing attacks with regular armament but conqueror's Haki
@@user-gk6nt5gi5n From what I understood, normal armament Haki does not work on characters that can use advanced conqueror's because luffy could not do anything against Kaido until he unlocked advanced conqueror's Haki and the peak of armament Haki is Ryuo. Basically no advanced conqueror's equals 0 damage against advanced conqueror's users
Dude... The irony of you calling Shanks fans "Shanks glazers" is you're glazing Mikawk and making headcanons of him having stronger Haki than Shanks. Yes, Mihawk should have amazing haki. He's a Yonko Level character and a former rival to Shanks. If you're fighting against Shanks, your Haki has to be up to par. But, stronger... Please. The only area of Haki that Mihawk might have a edge over Shanks is Armament due to his black blade. Other that... Shanks had the better haki feats (as of right now) and it's not even close. Even with Observation... Shanks outdid Mihawk.
@@SuperiorI.Qmihawk has never been confirmed stronger you’re just a certified mihawk glizzy gobbler. Get your boy some feats first. Shanks is called the observation killer and has the best CoC feats in the series. Only a d rider like you would try to argue with Oda himself when he literally has given shanks the best haki feats in the series whilst your daddy Mihawk is struggling with vista 😂
But if Shanks can cancel Mihawk’s observation Haki, it’s GG. That said, Haki has branching paths. Shanks might be amazing at combining observation & conqueror’s, but Mihawk might get more raw power from his conqueror’s.
@@SuperiorI.QBut would observation haki cancellation count as a sword skill? If Shanks doesn’t use it against Mihawk & looses, is Mihawk’s title still good?
Op fans are truly the worst, even a story for 12 yo kids is too much for them. Shanks is described and presented as a top tier haki since grand line lmao. He's portrayed to have the best haki in the verse except Roger and maybe prime garp/wb. On the other hand mihawk has no narrative behind his haki, no feats, no statements except maybe for his observation haki and somehow his haki is stronger than shanks haki ? Thats crazy to say the least. It was the same situation for the admirals vs yonko, people ignored the all the narrative and were surprised when Luffy smokes kizaru.
@@SuperiorI.Q no i'm basically saying that the whole narrative of one piece is on shanks side, it's not the hype at this point lmaao it's litteraly the story itself that tells us that shanks haki is the top in OP World and SEEMS on par with Roger haki. I have no doubt that mihawk haki is top tier but above shanks, very unlikely
i like how mihawk stans have nothing to go with except titles lmao. Yk whitebeard was known as worlds strongest man even when roger was still alive, so youd have to make the argument that he is stronger than roger too for mihawks title to hold any weight, you assume mihawk has stronger observation haki than shanks just cuz he has a title implying he has good observation haki. Thats not how power scaling works, you have to take feats, as incomplete as they are AT THE MOMENT and not titles otherwise buggy is the strongest. Your assumption of stronger conquerors haki always wins is stupid, basically you would put marineford luffy who had conquerors above onigashima sanji, not taking other skills and the other haki into consideration. I will give you this that mihawk has better armament feats due to his black blade and shanks lack of feats but otherwise u just glazing bro.
Yeah exactly like...whitebeard s introductory line by buggy is " he's the world's strongest man the only guy who could draw against Roger" ... Roger is literally put on a higher pedestal whitebeard s fame is just that could draw with Roger not the other way around
Exactly. Worlds strongest man > A man Worlds strongest Swordsmen > A swordsmen Prime WB > Roger Extreme diff Mihawk > Shanks Extreme diff Also, could Luffy in marineford COAT himself with haki? No. Narrative, portrayal, statements, Mihawk beats Shanks. But it will be somewhat close. Extreme diff at best.
@@Mr.Sakazuki this is so stupid. one piece fans put too much faith in titles, to the point they can ignore literaly every showing of feats or narrative implications in the series.
@@Mr.Sakazuki It doesn't matter if he could coat himself in coc or not, that's not the point. Due to how sanjis personality is, he'll probably never unlock conquerors haki, so your telling me end of series sanji won't be able to beat wano zoro just because he can't coat himself in conquerors haki? Or with Roger and whitebeard, the only argument of whitebeard being stronger is his devil fruit and NOT conquerors so thanks for disproving your second point with your first. And also narrative, portrayal, statements? Literally all of them point to roger beating whitebeard, didn't he beat the entire rocks crew with Garp granted we don't know much about it. The same thing goes with mihawk and shanks. Titles don't weigh as much as people think, they're mostly symbolism. Like zoro saying he won't ever lose again but he has, it's symbolism and not a definitive thing as he hasnt lost to swordsmen. World's strongest man as he had the most destructive capability and worlds strongest swordsman because he is a better swordsman. Its somewhat implied that imu will use a sword, and titlehawk fans will put mihawk above imu if he does. I'm not saying it's not a close fight, it'll probably be on the scale of aokiji and akainus fight which lasted 10 days and my headcanon is that aokiji lost because of devil fruit matchup. I'm not really a shanks Stan in that sense, I think they're battle could even be a draw, but as far as feats go, as of now shanks has better showings
@@mastergamexer4062 If there are 2 people who are completely equally matched in arma, obs, it will come down to conq. Ultimately, the stronger will power any of the 2 individual's posses, will win. And your conq depends on your will power.
Have they met Mihawk or other conquoers out there in the world. shanks using his coc was clashing even with old sick whitebeard! his wifi haki feat tho was top tier and a good showing. I still doubt his haki is better than someone like imu for example
Reading comprehension 💀. Characters that have currently confirmed conquerors had previous vivre cards that only confirmed their armament and observation. They confirm the hakis shown in the series. No point in confirming who is a conqueror before they use it in the series. Just look at Garp who was trashed for years because "he doesn't have conquerors confirmed in the vivre card that confirmed his armament and observation....so that mean he doesn't have conquerors". But now he is a conquerors user. It's about creating hype. Confirming all the conquerors users 20 years before they actually have fights would drop the hype it could generate later
i pose this question to all shanks fans if shanks has universally better haki than mihawk, why is yoru a black blade and gryphon isnt (while no, we dont know how a black blade is forged, its pretty heavily implied its with either strong conquerors or strong armament)
implication is not fact therefore your question is irrelevant. Now onto my question. If mihawk is stronger than shanks why isn’t he in kaido’s top 5???? 😂
Shanks doesn't need to master his armament haki that much because he has advanced conqueror's haki which is just a better version of armament, and mihawk doesn't have conqueror's so it would make sense for him to solely rely on armament
Should’ve brought up the recent Zoro x Sanji magazine 😟. It states the pinnacle of Zoro’s swordsmanship was his advanced conquerors haki. If the pinnacle of swordsmanship is haki, Mihawk haki > Shanks’.
Third Btw I think Mihawk has better observation and armament haki than shanks and he needs to prove it that he has better acoc than shanks if he has it?
@@SuperiorI.Q Oda blueballing this lazy fucker really is something to watch. I'll probably die in an accident before Mihawk proves to be above old WB (of course not including MFbeard)
Mihawk can have the better armament(due to him having a black blade) better observation(because his epithet is hawk eye) and obv better with the sword. But you gotta give Shanks the edge in conquers because his display of it has arguably been the best in the series so far. He has mastered it to a point where he can cancel out the opponents future sight which I believe would play a big role in a battle. If Mihawk and Shanks were to fight again today I’d give it to Shanks 51/49 (EXTREME DIFF) 😂
@@polamarasettirameswaram8896 Thats not what the narrative said, thats what the World Government said because they are the ones who give out Titles / Epithets. Mihawk has 3 known Epithets. Marine Hunter Hawk Eyes Strongest Swordsman When has Mihawk himself ever said hes the worlds strongest swordsman? Show me that panel. I also never said he isnt the strongest swordsman. He is. But being the strongest swordsman doesnt mean you’re the strongest Character overall. And Like Ive already mentioned Before, Mihawk is a stronger sword fighter than Shanks, because hes the worlds strongest swordsman duh But Shanks has a stronger Conquerors Haki, which means he will still win in the end because Having a stronger Conquerors Haki > Devil Fruits , Tech , and yes Swordsmanship. And No Swordsmanship and Haki are not the same thing. Characters can be stronger at one of them than the other. We can get into that if you want. Go for it
@MrYondaime705 so what if Mihawk never said that he was the world's strongest swordsman? WG gave Roger and Goatbeard their titles so Roger and Goatbeard are frauds too? Mihawk is acknowledged by EVERYONE as the world's strongest swordsman there is not a single character who ever questioned his title of the world's strongest swordsman EVER. So all this people call him the world's strongest swordsman just for fun?do you really think that Zoro is a type of person who chases after a fraud?are you out of your mind? Bro really thinks that Mihawk is accepted by everyone as the world's strongest swordsman just because he can swing his sword in a fancy way😂. Without monstrous Haki no one can be the Strongest Swordsman in one piece Mihawk doesn't have Devil fruit or other source of power so he must be a very powerful Haki user (maybe most powerful) to be the World's strongest swordsman and to be able to go against top tiers. Without powerful haki he can't beat any top tier with just sword skills doesn't matter how skilled he is. If that's the case Current Zoro can beat him easily.to understand what swordsman is in one piece all you need to do is to look at Zoro and let me ask you this when you look at Zoro how can you still think that Mihawk has weak haki and being a swordsman is just about skills? How?
Good video, tho I disagree a lot. I think you’re trying to pull the Overton Window with some of these claims, and I can respect that. But for a lot of points you basically just said, “Mihawk has everything Shanks has” and then somehow Mihawk is better. I don’t believe we’ll ever see modern Mihawk fight Shanks. If we’re lucky we’ll get a flashback. But lemme ask you this: If Shanks is to Luffy, what Mihawk is to Zoro, do you still think it makes narrative sense for Mihawk to be stronger or win a fight against Shanks? Only arguing narrative since none of this is concrete as you stated early in the vid. Good vid, keep it up 👍
Not only is Mihawk called the strongest swordsman, but when he pulled up on Shanks and his crew they were all tense and ready to fight, while Mihawk coolly called Shanks a one armed hasbeen. Bro was cold and clearly did not feel inferior unless he is legit a fraud
Have a good day man! Don’t let this video trigger you discord.gg/JXtQxjTgTM
As a shanks fan, the comments are more likely to trigger me than the actual vid
this video is facts, your called superior iq for a reason
Mihawk is a coward, weak, and under the shadow of Baghi
Mihawk retreated and ran away from Shanks 4 times
Shanks is the strongest in the story
Bros first good take since the Middle Ages
@@وليد-ش9ث🤡
Bro is going to get kidnapped by shanks fans💀
Wheres your boy Kizaru? I remember you being dead convinced that he'll be back and sacrifice himself to save Luffy, defy the gorosei, go all out and $hits. Oda legit forgot about that guy.
@@Dracule18 the arc isnt over yet and the gorosie are still pursuing the straw hats and bonney. Just wait
@@ErlangShenlo
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When I saw that title i started laughing bc I know it's gonna piss people off LMAO
Bro, same here😂🍿
😂😂😂😂I argued it just CUs I can
Damn. I saw you both after such a long time. Good to know you're still alive ❤
@@ThunderGuy11 same lol, this is a different account , just found superior again and subscribed, but I remember might and julian
Sometimes the truth hurts
Interesting. As a Shanks Fan, I can definitely see where you're coming from.
Regarding Haki as a whole, I believe there around the same level, but excell in different areas.
Essentially:
Armament Haki: Mihawk>Shanks (permanent Black Blade).
Observation Haki:
Shanks~Mihawk (I believe that they're comparable in this one).
Conqueror's Haki:
Shanks>Mihawk (Mihawk is 100% going to have Conqueror's Haki. While I'm not sure if it'll be just as or even more powerful than Shanks, he shouldn't be too far in this aspect).
Overall Haki:
Shanks=Mihawk.
Personally, I have Shanks=Mihawk both in Haki and overall strength. From what I've seen until now, the fact that their last duel was never settled (I think a One Piece episode talked about it), it leads me to believe that they're equals even today. I doubt that either of them became stagnant after so long. So, until something happens, like Shanks dropping his sword and saying "I stopped considering myself a swrodsman after I lost my arm" and starts pulling Haki Susano'os and Haki Kamehamehas, he's equal to Mihawk at best.
Just to make sure, this is an opinion coming from someone who is still learning more about One Piece Scaling and, is admittedly, a Shanks fan. This could very well be both my lack of knowledge or bias speaking.
Wonderful opnion brother and I agree with a lot of where your coming from thank you for being respectful 😭❤️
horrible take based on pure head canon. Mihawk has more anti feats than actual good feats considering vista went toe to toe with him and jozu pretty comfortably stopped an attack that was intended for WHITEBEARD so obviously a huge one.
@@olixxdagoatwhile shanks lost an arm to a sea fish fodder and got a scar to his left eye by bb(no df)
by your logic
mihawk=vista>>>>>>>>>>>sea fish fodder>>>>bb>>>>>>>>>>>>shanks
i get it now😂😂😂😂
@@olixxdagoatwe never seen mihawk serious once. We have seen shanks serious
@@olixxdagoatMihawk haven’t used a named attack he just flaunts his blade and marineford stared in awe. He didn’t want to really stopped luffy and was holding back against those you just called
Hold the line gentlemen Shanks fans incoming
"i dont go all out to hunt a mere rabbit", says everything about mihawk. he will use strong attacks against strong opponents and normal attacks against normal opponents, its that simple.
As same figerland say it.. mihawk is safe a celes dragon.
@@rejisonzachariah5494 So since whitebeard is stated to be the strongest man/pirate by the narrator, marines, pirates, and people alike it was no rabbit hunt since that was the strongest person in all of one piece so that means mihawk was trying his best or near his best when he tried to attack whitebeard
@@theonewhostandsaboveall didnt u pay attention to what mihawk said in marineford?, in the manga mihawk said like this before attacking " this is merely conjecture , but the distance between that man and us seems rather small", do u get what that means?, i dont have to explain it to you right?
@@rejisonzachariah5494 you are totally right about what he says about the distance being rather small however, you must also acknowledge the fact that he says it is merely conjecture “ CONJECTURE” = [an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.]
That is the correct definition for conjecture. [An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information. ]
So Hawkeye acknowledges that even a sick old white beard on that marine ford day was stronger than him and everyone else which is why he says the distance is rather small because there’s still a distance between them.
Once again, it was stated by the narrator, senGoku and everyone else there multiple times over that white beard was the strongest person, pirate, living thing in the one piece verse at that time
@@theonewhostandsaboveall isnt whitebeards sickness a secret?, how can he be the strongest when he is sick?
Agreed, the Mihawk slander must stop. It's pure cope to say he isn't the strongest swordsman because he hasn't shown much yet.
7:09 in latest chapter Joyboy sealed seemingly Haki blast in Emith. So maybe, you need to seal your Haki in the Blade to make it a Black Blade
Yeah I wish I didn’t make this video so long ago I would of mentioneed that
When was this mentionned ?
@@ishan61 damn good logic bro. Yup i can see this as legit theory
@@mzin536it's in the spoilers for 1122
Full spoilers haven't even released yet and it may not be the case as road to laughtale 4billion if I recall implied that the forging of a Kokuto requires something more than haki otherwise Roger would've one.
Mihawk is so skilled, we haven't seen him phased, threatened or pushed to use Haki
So far Oda offscreened his fight against the other seraphims
It's not a hot take, its the REALITY
Reality is often disappointing
“Alright I admit I PAINT MY SWORD BLACK ZORO” - Fraudhawk to Zoro after Zoro whooped his arse
@@Saint.Topman We were waiting for you
I think it’s no doubt has stronger armament and should have stronger observation that’s two out of 3 for mihawk and bet his acoc is comparable
@@SeanEvans-mx1ggso the dude who recently had an episode showcasing how broken his observation is, has weaker observation than the guy who’s observation we’ve barley seen any of yet, mind you shanks is the “observation killer” but I’m supposed to believe mihawk has two categories of haki above shanks? I know we haven’t seen much of what either of them can really do but ima need some convincing to get to that conclusion 😂
He's Literally called the strongest swordman in both name and reality
Truth is Oda doesn’t care about mihawk like how the fans do👀🤷🏾♂️
You might be right
Yeah he only called him the strongest many times for no reason.
Ever heard of projection lil bro?
Mohawk ain't that important outside of a Zoro fight @@JT-km6th
or he’s saving him for the last arc… cross guild is a wild card in the middle of everything going on
Truth is you're just illiterate. Mihawk is an endgame boss for one of the main fighters. Why would Oda have him do ANYTHING significant before then? Even Imu is stuck in a room unable to go anywhere or do anything. Only flexed a portion of his power once and currently only gives empty speech bubbles and reactions..... Just like Mihawk.
He even has less scenes than Mihawk ever since his introduction. Guess Oda doesn't care about Imu even more, by your logic.
Y'all legit have preschool level comprehension and create the most braindead takes. 😹😂😂
Facts bro, people pretend like Mihawk doesn't have good Haki because they haven't "seen it yet 🤓" or something like that, brother's name is 'Hawkeye' or even 'Clairvoyant' in his concept designs 😤🙏
Appreciate king ❤️
This dude has litteraly no haki feat and couldn't even get past Vista or Joz in Marineford, he couldn't even get the attention of Whitebeard who didn't even react to his strike and ignored entirely his presence on thd battlefield (but yeah he would totally ignore Shanks and not jump and attack him at sight given the menace he represents, he would let his sons do the job I guess), what the fuck are we even talking about here ? So Marco sent Vista against a dude as strong as Roger ? A guy who dodge all relevant fights or events every time he can ? A guy with no ambition, motivation or fighting spirit when haki is the materialization of ambition, motivation and fighting spirit ? Buggy having more ambition and spirit than Croc and Mihawk being treated as a fucking joke and humiliation by Oda doens't ring a bell to you ?
In contrast do I need to remember you that Whitebeard attacked red hair personally, or that Shanks stopped the Marineford war by himself, that he stopped Kaido and appreared in his top 5 after, that he one shotted a dude stronger than Vista and humiliated an admiral at distance ? And you're talking about portrayal about a dude who possess a title nobody cares about and only concern swordskills whatever this means ?
The more the story advance, the more we see new top tier sword users that Mihawk never fought wich is incoherent with the way you interpret his title in the sense that he should have beaten all top tier swordsmen to be considered the strongest otherwise we would have no way to tell.
Like what will you do when Luffy will fight Shanks while Zoro fight Mihawk ? Since the crossguild is in the race for the One piece he's going to fight other yonkou crews and organizations, and giving the setup it looks like a battle royale centered around this dude marked by flame, so while Shanks is fighting Luffy who do you think will fight Mihawk in the meantime ? How will you react when Luffy will have it hard against Shanks and Zoro against Mihawk ? What will be your excuse this time ? Will you say that "he was chasing rabbits" cause I guess that his attack destined to whitebeard who was stop easily by Joz was him not trying lol...
Shanks conqueror's haki is so strong that he was able to paralyze and make an admiral scream from miles away, I know that Mihawk fans are upset because Oda doesn't give a fuck about him and only makes Shanks shine, but could we at least stop saying that a dude we saw nearly nothing about and the limited amount of time we saw him doing actions or fight was extremly disappointing or downright pathetic and ignored by major players doesn't nessecerely have the same techniques and haki mastery as a guy who has the best feats in the manga ?
Even when it comes to observation Shanks is above for now by seeing 10 seconds or more in the future, all Mihawk has is interpretations for his epithet and that time when he was about to cut Luffy's arm and Luffy dodged, wich could mean a lot of things and even if it would refer to observation haki it wouldn't be usefull to compare it with Shanks, plus red hair can annul it anyway. You're comparing a dude with a shit ton of antifeats with the litteral representation of haki in the manga, Shanks litteraly was the first to use conqueror's haki, the first to split the sky, the first to break matter with it and the first to use it as a concentrated mental attack...
Like Mihawk is the strongest in the verse now ? Is this Zoro piece ? This dude isn't even listed among the major players of the final saga for god sake... most of your video is just you defending Mihawk by leeching on Shanks feats in reason of a rivalry that's passed since ten years when Shanks wasn't even a yonkou and had a bounty around 1 billion, a yonkou commander level character at best (and no someone as strong as Kaido with a powerfull crew wouldn't be given a bounty of million territories or not, this is straight up ridiculous and that's just Mihawk fan trying to say tha Shanks didn't progress to maintain their agenda).
All that shit is a circular argument anyway, "Mihawk has stronger conqueror's haki because I think that he's stronger than Shanks" while litteraly everything points to the opposite direction...
For real we don't even know what his title means and who's concerned by it, like King uses his sword most of the time and have excellent sword skills but isn't a swordsman, the daimyos in prison with Yamato were considered great Swordmasters while Zoro is only a swordmaster despite being stronger than them indicating that there is more to the swordsmen hierarchy and technique than straight up haki, Roger was the strongest sword user but never had the title of WSS nor was ever called a swordmaster or great swordmaster and Luffy himself put the king of the pirate above the WSS in the begining of the manga (being the wss is the bare minimum for the swordsman of the pirate king), Brandnew refers to it as having better swordskill only instead of saying that he was straight up stronger than Shanks while we learned that Shanks had powerfull abilities outside of his swordskills like being able to annul your observation haki or launching mental attacks of concentrated conqueror's haki that can paralyze and making scream and ditransform a fucking admiral, he even can thelepatically communicate with his haki... This shit makes less and less sense the more we advance in the manga.
@@laraison6020 imagine typing an entire essay 😂
First things first, Mihawk isn't only the best in "sword skill" so let's stop you right there.
Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, not the most skilled swordsman. His haki is above the rest, how? Black blade through haki that he himself stated. Also, Zoro magazine confirms haki~~swordsmanship so stay mad.
@@Immmboreddd why is Zoro only a swordmaster and the daimios are great swordmaster then ? Zoro has a weaker haki than them I guess ?
Why didn't Roger had the title of WSS in his time, why was he and Shanks never called swordsmen in the manga (and no I don't give a fuck about external sources or comments out of context with shitty translation or everything that is not directly in the manga) ?
If that shit isn't about swordskill, why did Brandnew specified that Mihawk had better swordskill than red hair instead of straight up saying that he was stronger than him ? Especially when Oda reaveled that Shanks had important abilities outside of swordsmanship like being able to cancel observation haki or launching concentrated conqueror's haki attacks ? Why didn't Mihawk fought any of the top tier swordsmen like Big Mom, Nosjuro, Garling, Shanks brother with two arms or Fujitoa if he's really the strongest ? I thought that he didn't have any concurrence left, but there is plenty still left isn't it ? And most importantly why Mihawk, Vista and Zoro are the only persons who care about this title ? Why none of the swordsmen presented in one piece want this fraudulent title ? And don't tell me that they are afraid because Vista, who is way weaker than the ones I mentioned above, was ready and happy to fight him and Shanks even proposed to settle the score...
Also the magazines aren't even written by Oda but Shueisha employes, so this shit has no value, and don't make a fool out of yourself, unlike you I don't need external sources to argue any of my points, everything is in the manga...
This is circular logic, you think that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks, so you think he has better conqueror's despite everything in the manga pointing to the opposite. Even the author of this video confessed that he had no real arguments to put Mihawk above Shanks in terms of conqueror's haki...
You didn't respond to any argument by the way, I just note that you think Marco sent Vista against Roger and Whitebeard let Roger wander around the battlefield without ever facing him...
Also you weren't able to prove me that Shanks didn't progress since his duel with Mihawk so all of you narrative falls flat.
@@laraison6020 Mihawk>Shanks. Swordsmanship~~haki confirmed by Zoro magazine.
@@Immmboredddanswer his arguments instead of dodging you look stupid
Mihawk never tried. Shanks has
"How much further... will your agendas be pushed?"
You know what i notice mihawk fans only started talking crazy when Zoro unlocked conquers Haki 😂😂
Cuz thats when acoc was introduced?
GOATHAWK ! That time will come when Mihawk uses his first named and serious move/attack
Damn this aged horribly 😂
No it didn't
After the vivre card it aged terribly.
@@sh4nks4fan vivre card stated he is above shanks
@@kxb6098 bros mad or smth
@@sh4nks4fan stating facts is being mad? Ok bro lol
Bro doesn't fear Shanks fans
I’m a sanji fan I’m battle tested
People read "Sekai saikyo no Kenshi" as Mihawk's title and thought it was just there for vibes....I endorse the argument in this video
Mihawk already proved he can be at Shanks, when he first brought Luffy's wanted poster to Shanks. Shanks thought he wanted to duel but Mihawk said he had no interest in dueling him anymore since he lost his arm. That proves Hawkeye would wipe the floor with the one arm red hair pirate Shanks, and to do that he would definitely have every type of haki.💯😎👍
Bro better get ready for a war… I agree with the analysis. *locks my doors and hides in a bunker*
If you hear me yelling don’t open the door bro
As kind of a rule of thumb, the later a character is fought by the main crew, the stronger he is. Mihawk is final boss for Zoro, Shanks isn't final boss for Luffy. It's a very meta take, and IMHO Shanks vs Mihawk could go either way, but I'm leaning towards Mihawk if I had to choose.
Which would have sounded insane to me a year ago.
bro in the entirety of one piece verse - two people have black blade. only two. ---- riyuma and mehawk. not roger. not whitebeard not shanks . not a single person who fights with sword. not even figerland. it says a lot.
Damn I guess Mihawk is above Nika then since Nika used a sword lmao 😂
@@AnimeALX sure. I bet mehawk can dispel luffy's devil fruit form like shanks did with greenbull. ✌️😆
@@AnimeALX we don't know how strong nika and hes a myth. we don't know if he actually real. nika and joyboy are not the same people
4:14 also remember when mihawk told zoro if hes an actual swordsman hed know hes way weaker than him implying a good enough swordsman would have this application of observation haki at the bare minimum
Oh you mentioned it later...
Shanks meat riders aint gonna like this one😹🙏🏽
😂😂I didn’t see one yet I’m waiting
@@SuperiorI.QMihawk hasn't been shown with a better Conc Haki. Mihawk never defeated a pre yonko Shanks
@@damz3032 Neither has Shanks.
@@theconductor2969Shanks has better haki that is a common Sense😊
@@YollE88 Common sense is just that. Common. It says nothing about the reality of something. Just what people commonly believe. So dream away. One Piece is a story about dreams after all. 😅
Someone who ACTUALLY understands the Whitebeard vs Mihawk scene, even though it should've been incredibly obvious as the war went on.
Yeah, mihawk literally uses a stronger attack later on in the arc but somehow the slash against WB, which is a one handed sword swing with great distance, is supposed to be stronger.
There was little to no reaction from shanks upper brass when mihawk came to meet shanks however when shanks came to meet white beard, all of white beards pirates, and including his top commanders, were sweating bullets
@@Muffin11262 actually the one sent to white beard may very well be the strongest/he sent in all of marine Ford/slashes over distance are actually a feet of great strength in one piece Zorro comments that in sky Island against Ohm he also commented against Pica in Dressrosa.
White beard is stated to be the strongest person and pirate at Marine Ford so why would Miha not use his strongest attack towards white beard
@@theonewhostandsaboveall "y would he not use his strongest attack against him?" Idk? Ask oda. Regardless, its pretty clear which attack between the one that cut the giant iceberg, also used with two hands, vs the one which was barely the size of WB's ship and was used with a single hand, is stronger.
Plus, both the manga and anime emphasized the ice berg slash to be wayyyy above the first one.
And whatever u said in the first paragraph also applies to the second slash bcz that was also sent with a great distance yet it did 10x more damage. Mihawk did not slash the iceberg directly, there was a great distance there as well.
@@theonewhostandsaboveall yeah bcz they have seen shanks and mihawk meet, duel and party all their life, maybe?
And shanks literally himself got cautious when he asked mihawk if he was there to fight him.
And mihawk didn't visit the red haired crew throwing around his haki knocking everyone out either.
Shanks>Mihawk, until Mihawk shows his haki🥱
Sabo > Dragon untill he shows his haki 🥱
That’s your opinion. You are using pure headcanon to say that mihawk has stronger conq haki than shanks despite shanks showing the best conq feats, its like me saying while mihawk has a black blade, i belive shanks armament its stronger . And if you want to use narrative, narratively luffy’s goal(shanks) should be greater than zoro’s goal(mihawk)
How does mihawk even have a title in the first place when he couldn't defeat shanks ever
Like in hundreds of duels he couldn't defeat shanks , he virtually shares the title with shanks as the world's strongest swordsman because he clearly is not the strongest because he an equal in the world @@SuperiorI.Q
@@babyblue1443Nigga, what the fuck are you talking about?
@@theworld.uZoro has advanced conquerors haki and wants to surpass Mihawk who is the strongest swordsman in the world and who also wants to fight somebody stronger than Shanks. Conquerors haki coating is the strongest haki application a swordsman can apply for their swords. Some of the best swordsman in the verse have advanced conquerors coating and Mihawk is the strongest. Haki is intrinsically linked to a swordsman’s power and skill. I don’t know what to tell you dude; the story practically spells it out.
I think that Zoro is proof that Mihawk is stronger and that Mihawk isn’t just skilled. It would defeat the purpose of Zoro’s dream if Mihawk wasn’t actually the strongest but just very skilled.
weve never seen mihak try. he didnt even try versus whitebeard
Facts
@@SuperiorI.Q Luffy wants to surpass shanks and zoro wants surpass mihawk. So shouldn't shanks be stronger since the mc wants to surpass him
Luffy wants to surpass shanks??@@HOWareyou321_1
But Shanks is a Confirmed Swordsman . And Mihawk is Strongest Swordsman . And Swordsmanship is combined with Skill+Haki . @@HOWareyou321_1
@@HOWareyou321_1 surpassing shanks = surpassing mihawk because shanks and mihawk pretty much the same as mentioned in the story that they used to be equal in combat until shanks lost an arm
I feel like more people are starting to recognize mihawk recently, I'm here for it!
The Mihawk glaze is real you just said shanks is proven to kill observation haki and you put Mohawk above him shanks is the first person in the series to break inanimate objects with just his prescience without clashing with someone else miahwk is better than him at armorment that’s it
I also said I don’t think it’s his observation haki that makes him do that ability
@@SuperiorI.Q I don’t know if the is factual just I read it somewhere that he combines his observation with his conquers to kill off people observation again I’m not sure if this is true or not
@@saiyanslayer7064 you do realise Shanks was using conq haki for both them times?
@@Immmboreddd yes I know just said haki cause I didn’t feel like putting conquers haki
@@saiyanslayer7064 so you're lazy? Anyhow, Mihawk has the best haki including all swordsmen and sword users.
Wait Mihawk can also wifi hack Greenbull?
Like if Shanks 3 types of haki aren't overall superior how can he even compare to Mihawk?
Also you can't predict a move that isn't made, forcing you to attack and then be predicted, so Mihawk doesn't need further vision haki to win.
Real swordmanship and therefore One Piece's is about the one who lands the cut wins, so only one move is enough. also you are much more careful to avoid a blade than a punch.
Man I love both Mihawk and Shanks and I glaze them up to the point I think they beat every character pre-timeskip but I just don't get the "Mihawk is superior to Shanks* nor "Haki is the only thing that matters". Whitebeard was strong mainly cuz his fruit and physical strenght and I doubt a relative Roger who most likely shares Shanks fight-style was a better swordsman than Mihawk.
Even before watching the video, i have always believed
Mihawk probably has better armament haki than shanks because of the so called black blade, while shanks probably has better mastery over conquerors(because oda advertises it as such) observation i have no clue who to judge higher
Yh Shanks Coc go crazy fosho 💯
I'm not really a fan of either character, but I just can't see Mihawk being stronger than Shanks, especially in CoC, simply for this reason:
-Luffy has to surpass Shanks.
-Zoro has to surpass Mihawks.
Luffy will always be > Zoro. So Shanks should be > Mihawk.
How complicated is that?
however your reading two piece
why?
shanks haki does not come near to joyboys haki and luffy will have that level of haki at the end of series
shanks is not luffys final opponent while mihawk is zoros final opponent
@@sheenakr7616 Mihawk is not Zoro's final opponent unless you think Zoro will fight Mihawk after he fights/beats Samurai Gandhi.
Luffy and Zoro will definitely surpass Shanks and Mihawk respectively, but due to the power structure of Luffy and Zoro, the same will be applied to Shanks and Mihawk
@@ajs3060 Now i am convinced you are a two piece reader, in the current events of the manga buggy has used his influence to change the cross guilds aim to find the one piece, this means laughtale is now the centre of everything in one piece
the marines are now aiming to get the one piece before the pirates and that means all the top tiers are aiming for one piece including mihawk who is stuck in cross guild
mihawk is zoros finals opponent, cry more
also the 5 elders are fodders infront of joyboy haki, gandhi is no longer a top tier and by final arc luffy will beat gandhi with conquerors haki alone
@@ajs3060 this is an insane cope, mihawk high diffs shanks, lmao, Luffy might have to surpass joyboy, and mihawk has really good narrative scalling, as Zoro might become the world's strongest in history.
@@ajs3060 dude shanks is a swordsman
mihawk just wanna chill and drink wine. how does he have better haki. he only has better sword skills
@@Kidlynno "only better sword skill" is incorrect. You using the word ONLY changes everything. Not once in manga is that word ever used.
@@Immmboreddd this is a comparison between him n shanks. if you analyse both characters and their ambitions, it is obvious shanks has better conqueror's haki and conqueror's haki is king. mihawk's best feat are tales of his battle's with shanks. As for Shanks, we have heard alot. His will was so strong all the factions of the war conceded to it. Overrall Shanks has better haki and mihawk "only" better with the sword
@@Kidlynno they didn't concede any war because of Shanks' will, what are you yapping about? Hahaha.
@@Kidlynno "ONLY" is incorrect, as that word is never used so you're using headcanon
I feel like every time we seen Mihawk "fight", he just did the equivalent of launching some "auto attacks" and a few "basic abilities" then got bored and decided a glass of wine would be more fulfilling than dispersing that petty rabble.
Aye man the shanks Stans gonna come for you😂
Gēlyn enkagon jamēla TAOBA
You and your theories are great man, let the haters flame. They watch the video and comment at least lol
Shanks legit has the most impressive haki feat in the series stuning a admiral level threat from miles way is something no one has done in the stories at minimum shanks has better conquers and observation.Observation cause shanks cancels out future sight something only he can do.Mihawk most like had better armament and thats it
Just CUs he can cancel out OBSERVATUON doesn’t mean his observation is better, unless you think his observation is what’s cancelling it out. I agree though shanks has way better and most impressive haki feats.
@@SuperiorI.Q I agree with you Mihawk probably has better armament and observation but conquerors goes to shanks 100%
Not anymore
not anymore joyboy takes that
@@sidjiiimenudo842 lol joyboy has the best feat and hes dead
7:36 I’m gonna explain it because why not 😈 in short, we know that everyone with big names in the New World have at least some form of conqueror Haki if you think about it, look at how Zoro got his. Zoro wants to stand the top of swordsmanship which as of now in one piece is Mihawk so him not having it wouldn’t make sense since his ambition is just to be at the top and his is at the top.
Bro using head cannon as facts 💀
Mostly everything in one piece is headcanon but I never said it was fact
@@SuperiorI.Q fair enough
Bro, the whole Hakiman bs spread by Shanks fans is nothing but head Canon
Facts is Oda stated he’s is actually the strongest swordsman and nothing can go against that statement
Big ups for this 🔥 . It takes a lot to read without bias
And not be scared of backlash
Not a hot take at all. Mihawk is the current WSS which means that he stands above every single swordsman including Shanks.
Shanks’ fans mention his ACOC but fail to realise that it’s low-key Mihawk upscale. If Mihawk rose to WSS without COC/ACOC that could be the single most insane feat in the whole story.
Even his title is worthless because he never won against shanks lol
In his hundreds of duels against him mihawk never achieved even a single victory
He cannot be the STRONGEST if he has an equal in this world
His title is dubious , mf is a fraud
I think a lot of these arguments are a stretch at best.
Based on current facts, shanks indisputably has the best observation haki in the series and can kill the observation haki of others. We know mihawk has top tier observation haki but if shanks is currently at the ceiling of observation haki development, then mihawk can’t have a significant edge over him on it. At best they will be equal assuming shanks is currently at the ceiling and mihawk is comparable.
Assuming mihawk forged the black blade himself, then he is better at armament (specifically imbuement), but if he didn’t and acquired an already blackened yoru, then we currently have no bona fide evidence he is significantly superior to shanks in this regard.
As likely as it is mihawk will have conquerors haki he just hasn’t demonstrated any. Meanwhile, shanks is disabling admirals with Wi-Fi. Right now it’s pretty much impossible to argue anybody has better or even comparable conquerors haki than shanks.
Shanks and mihawk were evenly matched prior to shanks becoming a yonko. Has shanks remained the same after being a yonko? Probably not. Mihawk has probably also gotten stronger, but being a yonko is a harder title to achieve than worlds strongest swordsman.
What mihawk is indisputably better at than shanks is sword techniques. Out fencing baratie zoro with a butter knife, instantly cutting up Daz bones, perfectly cutting a massive frozen wave in half, redirecting bullets with a turn of his blade, these are things that we haven’t seen shanks do and that is hard to imagine him doing.
Shanks fights by overwhelming his opponents with sheer willpower, and his sword is more of a haki challenging tool than anything else. He as of the current writing indisputably has better haki than mihawk and Mihawks fancy sword techniques cannot get around that. The fact shanks brought an admiral to his knees not with his blade, but with lightning streams of conquerors haki, says all we need to know the true backbone of his fighting style.
Aside from shanks disabling green bull with pure haki streams from a distance, we recently saw Garp nuke an island with a ryou + conquerors infused fist, and joy boy stored a haki bomb inside Emeth. So oda is starting to introduce advanced forms of haki that essentially work as energy blasts, which all the top tier haki users are probably going to display.
All this to say, at least as currently written, mihawk is not exceeding shanks in haki or overall strength. I see shanks extreme diffing mihawk, but that’s not to downplay mihawk. I put both of them over kaido, old beard and old garp.
Ykb
I swear to god if someone says Shanks is a hakiman I'm going fucking crazy
Hey superior love your vids bro👍
And I Love you bro
🤝@@SuperiorI.Q
I hope Mihawk turn out to be from an ancient dracula race
Exactly. Mihawk haki has to be on par with shanks or stronger
😂 Why you think Shanks haki is the best? He is literally a side character, not the main villians or the protagonists. He has mid-top-tier haki at best, that is evident by him not having a black blade. His haki is not on tier with people like Imu, Joyboy, Ryuma and Mihawk.
@@worldbosspf1are you reading black piece??
@@worldbosspf1 Bro is reading 2 piece.
@@worldbosspf1and mihawk is a main protagonist or antagonist because he made his blade black... can you see how so Stoopid and dumb your comment is lol.
@worldbosspf1 are you restarted shanks has showcased the strongest haki we've seen in the manga by far
Shanks simply breathing thru his nose is a mihawk upscale 😭🙏
The Moment Mihawk said, I NO LONGER, want to duel you because your handy caped, Mihawk = Better than Shanks.
shanks has canonically gotten stronger since he and mihawk were rivals, mihawks either scared or ignorant
@@AidenB1010 nobody cares bro. We know the truth.
@@AidenB1010 imagine oda uses that copium as excuse in the future in the manga
@@Muffin11262 shanks below Mihawk
@@biglow7027You forget Mihawk said im not interested in a one armed man, and the day before he fought pre timeskip zoro, because fighting fodder is more honorable than fighting a stronger shanks than the one he fought 12 years ago, the shanks that wasn’t a yonko 😂😂😂
How did mihawks haki bloom while he was sitting in a retirement home for the past decade.
Gang, even though this should be known by everyone, this is your HOTTEST take by far 😭
Listen bro I love the game I LVOE the hustle
How is this a hot take please elaborate, ts is common sense
To update you, Mihawk's fight with Shanks was at least 13 years ago. Now it no longer has the meaning of being equal or anything. Author Oda said that Mihawk was waiting for someone stronger than Shanks to challenge him. Don't mention haki anymore :)))... In fact, Oda affirms that Mihawk is the strongest swordsman and the accompanying list is Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks,... so there is no need to argue much.
I personally think that
- mihawk is apove shanks, SBS tells us that mihawk waits for someone that surpasses shanks ( why would he wait for someone like this if shanks is equal to him or stronger?)
- being a swordsman can't be done only by sword play, haki must be a factor as well and if you are the WSS then you really have either the strongest CQC, armament, future sight... Or a mix of all 3 but one of them is superior to others ( i think is armament is top 3 in one piece)
- mihawk is stronger than ryma because welding a supreme grade black sword is only shown to be done from mihawk and him alone ( gandi weld supreme grade, fujitora, Roger, whitebeard, and many others and non of them made permanent black blade)
So everything lining up perfectly for zoro even shanks as well, if strawhats went to elbaf and met shanks then definitely he will help zoro somehow to get him ready for ( final arc and then mihawk)
The help of 2nd WSS will be logical
Yes indeed. Haki is always a factor. There is literally no such thing as a "haki man." It's an augmentative power (of offense, defense, and reaction time/awareness). You don't just haki people to death other than basic conquerors to knock out fodder. The only quasi exception is the wifi haki shanks used. If we want to be tech I am and say that "haki men/women" are a thing, then literally everyone who uses haki (even those ok Pekoms level and below) are haki people, and for whatever reason, one piece fans always understand this until the discussion of Shanks vs Mihawk comes up.
there is nothing unreasonable about thinking mihawk is better in a specific haki type. but just saying haki in general is too much.
The only moment i could think of that suggests mihawk used observation haki was when he fought vista during the war. because he was fighting him without even looking at him. which is crazy thing to be able top do against someone like vista. as releigh displayed when teaching luffy. it looks you to react to things you do not see.
Also Imagine if Mihawk was like a CD too like related to Imu/Nerona family.
I was thinking of that as well!
Most people just like to Gatekeep for shanks because he’s cool. But he will lkkely be surpassed by several characters by Story’s end.
You're cooking
❤️
"cooking"
"why is mihawk's conqueror's haki better than Shanks and superior?"
SuperiorQ: "Trust me"
Same dude who couldnt get past vista and got parried by croc
"Same dude who couldnt get past vista 🤡" Sengoku told to the warlord and his fighters to not interfere and kill the WB pirates. Mihawk didn't even care about this little exchange either.
Like what did you expect from mihawk's fight with vista????? mihawk going on full strength over a swordsman that is a billion times weaker than him? fk no.
The reason why mihawk didn't go on full strength against vista is because he said this in the baratie: "I don't kill a rabbit with a cannon" that means mihawk doesn't go on full strength over some weak ahh fodders like vista.
Lets be honest, the reason why vista was able to "evenly match" mihawk is because mihawk wasn't even trying at all. Like look at the anime, you'll see that vista was trying his hardest to fight a (non trying) mihawk lmao.
"Got parried by croc 🤡" Mihawk's clash with crocodile is just nothing.
Clashes are insanely overrated in this series.
A guy like gecko Moria can clash with kaido or licci can fist clash with luffy and we saw how licci got no diffed by luffy.
Clashing happens all the time between characters. That don't belong in the same convo as their peers.
Damn unfortunately he does NOT have better haki than Shanks according to vivre
Stop trusting the vivre, the vivre also said zoro doesn't have conq Haki to even though he does
@@bobe7226that was before he got it
@@AdamThomas-vf4opthat logic should apply with Mihawk, oda is saving a lot of things for him when he’s shown, even someone like dragon or Garp weren’t confirmed coc haki users when they are
@@Spartt204 garp and luffy have it so dragon would to
@@AdamThomas-vf4op yup
My idea why mihawk has a black blade as opposed to shanks who doesnt (and even roger and oden) is that you not only need strong enough haki but you need to master the sword, mihawk being the strongest swordsman and ryuma being ryuma it makes sense why these 2 would be able to achieve a black blade (sorry if you mentioned it in the video already im still watching i just wanted to say that)
This might be ur worse argument yet bro but Im here for it 🤣
Your last point is exactly Why Shanks is stronger than Mihawk, even tho Mihawk is the better swordsman.
Your point is still wrong from the foundation, because you’re putting Haki and Swordsmanship as One and the Same when they are Not.
When you Yourself literally states in the last point that Kaido mentioned, Haki is above all.
Therefore = Haki and Swordsmanship are 2 DIFFERENT Things.
Mihawk is a better sword fighter than Shanks but bcus Shanks has better Conquerors, he will still win in the end.
You cant say Oh but since hes the Better swordsman, that automatically means = He will have the stronger Haki / Conquerors.
Doesnt work that way bro, theyre 2 different things 🤣
haki is tied to swordsmanship,what did zoro learn during the ts to be a better swordsman? what did zoro learn in his fight with king to become a better swordsman?
@@Bon-Kaizer I never said Haki wasnt tied to swordsmanship.
Haki can be combined with every fighting style. But it doesnt mean Having stronger Swords Skills = Stronger Haki
Theyre 2 different things.
@@MrYondaime705 this is all contradicted by the manga,breath of all things is a skill yet is tied directly to haki(read chapter 939),you cant be top 1 in skill as a swordsman top 1 haki to back it up
@@Bon-Kaizer Fuckin hell, I never said Haki itself wasnt a Skill.
Observation Haki is a Skill
Armament Haki is a Skill
Conquerors Haki is a Skill
But a Sword Skill doesn’t mean Haki.
You can combine a Sword Skill and Haki Skill like what Zoro did to finally wound Kaido, but thats a combination of 2 skills. Its not just a sword skill. 🤦♂️
@@MrYondaime705 your not reading what im saying,breath of all things is a swords skill yes? and it's directly tied to haki yes? so swordskill=haki
the strength of your haki determines the skill of a swordsman,what has zoro done to increase his skill as a swordsman during the time skip to current day? all hes done is learn haki and make it stronger lol
No Concs, he paints his sword and Observation haki so good, that he (The Greatest Swordsman) ran from Vista 😭
Mihawk is the true 4th emperor.
If buggy crew runs into any of the other emperors it will be him fighting the captian and probably giving them a true rum for their money.
Doesn't make him and emperor it only means he is a strong underling.
@@sgtm1921Mihawk is not buggy’s underling
@@kennethdavy4051 He is literally Buggy's underling for everybody Buggy is the emperor and Mihawk is in his crew and power can't change that like Admiral or even CP 0 are so strong but they still underling to even the trash Celestial dragons.
@@sgtm1921 you do realise Cross Guild is ran by Crocodile and Mihawk? Buggy works for them, but since the poster had Buggy as the main star, he took the title of emperor, simply because of a mistake. How is Mihawk an underling?
@@Immmboreddd Mistake or whatever he is still the emperor and they are under his crew from all the worlds perspective and that is undeniable.
Shanks can see the future Mihawk can show you the future. Luffy literally stopped running up on Mihawk cause he saw a future where he gets cut to pieces by him
Here before the Shanks fan raids this video
Call the banners, I need a army
@@SuperiorI.Q We need Oscar Tully
@@SuperiorI.Q We got you bro.
I am a shanks fan just here to read all the clowning in this video lmao
Crazy how Shanks fans want everyone to believe Zoro will defeat the second strongest for the title of strongest Swordsman.
Shanks fans just look at the pretty lights while Mihawk fans are out here reading.
Amigos shanks is the God of haki all the way not Mihawk when shanks regrows his arm with haki it’ll be worthwhile
Shanks has Reversed cursed technique amigos
@@SuperiorI.Q really
@@YayoHernandez-b1j "really?" 😂😂
People dont know this, after shanks lost his arm.. He decided to eat the future future fruit. It said he can see 15 seconds earlier
What was blud smokin cuz I want some💀💀💀
@@haki7man your username shows how much of a glazer you are
Mihawk gets constantly glazed. By Shanks showing off. Necause he’s stated to be the strongest swordsman and is the reason Shanks got so strong in the first place.
*Based on the fact that Oda has carefully chosen his words and decided to say that Mihawk only surpasses Shanks at swordplay, it is implied that Shanks is, overall, the stronger fighter. If Shanks and Mihawk were to engage in a duel of pure swordplay, it would be clear for one to see that Mihawk would stand at the top*
Wanna debate on disc? I've destroyed this argument multiple times. And FYI you know Haki is part of swordmanship right?
I will join by saying that he can still fight Mihawk to a draw. Shanks could never beat Mihawk, and the opposite is true that Mihawk could never beat Shanks. The narrative had been clear on that they were more or less equals. The only reason they stopped their duels is that Mihawk really got annoyed that Shanks gave up his arm for some kid.
@@OfficialMrRelax "ONLY" was never said. That makes a huge difference. Using the word "only" means nothing more, when manga and anime stated he has greater skills and exceeds shanks in sword play, Oda hasn't ever used the word "only" with mihawk, so you're just straight up using headcanon.
That was the perfect interpretation of what Otis said you are completely right however, I also want to add that it is very apparent, especially when you look at pictures of younger shanks, he lost his dominant arm, his dominant sword arm when he was bit by the sea king, therefore that we can shank sword skill, maybe not his overall power as a fighter, but his sword skill so when him and mihawk duel it is now in mihawks favor
@@theonewhostandsaboveall Mihawk doesn't only surpass Shanks in sword skill, you do realise that?
7:14 it’s never even stated that Mihawk made his own blade black
But he’s able to use one. Zoro can’t even handle oden sword and it’s not a black blade
As a mihawk supporter i disagree,its entirely possible mihawk has slightly worse haki and makes up for it with his significantly stronger sword and greater skill.
Especially seeing as the offical sbs entry had literally said he had even better sword skill than red hair shanks that would moat likely be the case. There's also the fact that shanks and mihawk haven't dueled in at least 12 years as they haven't dueled since before he lost his arm. They both have different goals. People also ignore the fact that zoros goal is to surpass mihawk but luffy has also stated that one of his goals is to surpass shanks.
@@Ben-iz9udMihawk is described as stronger than all other swordsmen too, not just more skilled.
so your take is swordsmanskill > haki ?
Í dont thinks so tbh
Swordsmanship is intrinsically linked to haki so your argument doesn’t work.
“ Haki transcends everything “ so your saying , mihawk swordsmanship with a little weaker haki will be able to beat someone with better haki + close swordsmanship to yours ? not making sense buddy
I think the Shanks and Mihawk dynamic is just the modern day Roger and Whitebeard. One has better portrayal and the other has a title but they’re both equals that have never defeated eachother.
@@kota8927 nope Mihawk is the world strongest swordmans , if they was equals he wouldn’t have the title
@@shoyo4020 Whitebeard had the title “World’s Strongest Man” while being equal to Roger.
@@kota8927 nope buddy read ace novel volume 2 chapter 3 , he had the strongest pirate title due to his life as a pirate
second , he also has the title due to his devil fruit power being able to the destroys the world
@@kota8927 Whitebeard>Roger full power. Whitebeard can match Roger in haki and has an insane devil fruit with insane DC and AP, it's not hard.
@@kota8927 Mihawk has WSS because he's literally that. Vivre card "in title and IN REALITY" he's the strongest.
Bro proved nothing for now we know shanks>mihawk
Shanks has conquerors mihawk no
U said a lot of things about obserbation but sadly shanks is observation killer so mihawk now only has armament haki and mihawk all 3 so yes shanks has better haki
In terms of sword sience mihawk doesnt has observation and conquerors only can endurance it with armament haki
and shanks can endurance it with conquerors (one of best conquerors) and armament haki so now mihawk doesnt stand a chance sience shanks can see all his next moves mihawk only is better in terms of swordplay
And when mihawk saw shanks on the island he said him "IM NOT INTERESTED TO SETTLE THE SCORE"
So shanks>mihawk cry abt it mihawk dik riders 😂😂
Get him pass vista bro.
Rare Superior L
Atleast it’s rare bro 😞
Very rare maybe the first 😭
@@SuperiorI.Q common W
ngl i sold my mihawk stocks sfter latest ch, i respect u and your takes i got help in scaling from u, shanks>mihawk no hate
Hey man I’m glad you have a Different opinion it makes things fun ❤️
Forging a permanent black blade like Shusui or Yoru will likely require advanced conqueror's haki since the other person except Mihawk to forge such a blade was Ryuma, who was considered a literal God.
Those are the only two, confirmed instances.
Even people like Whitebeard, Roger, Reileigh and Shanks have ridiculously strong advanced conqueror's haki and still don't have a permanent black blade. And three of them are confirmed swordsmen.
All these fkn speculations when shithawk has nth to show for it 😭 yeah keep hoping and coping bruva
@@calmconflict upset?
@@Immmboreddd its actl funny 😂
@@calmconflict but are you upset though? Mihawk is still named strongest swordsman.
Mihawk is not a fraud because of his weakness; he is the World’s Strongest Swordsman for a reason, and without question, he is one of the strongest characters in the series. He is considered a fraud, however, because of his nonchalant demeanor. He’d rather relax and drink wine in his castle than sail out and challenge all fighters like a typical main character from some shounen series with no common sense (e.g., Goku, Luffy, Naruto, Yuji, etc.). So, while he is a calculating and somewhat introverted character, he is undeniably super strong. Once Oda reveals Mihawk’s true strength, I’m guessing that the community will be shocked and unprepared for him.
If Mihawk has better Haki than Shanks then One Piece is a flop
He's Clearly better in Busoshoku no Haki/ Armament haki
Haoshoku/Conqueror and Kenbunshoku/Observation.....i don't think so
@@Rubilacxee Armament Haki doesn't even matter when you have advanced conqueror's Haki cause you're not infusing attacks with regular armament but conqueror's Haki
@@stat1c102who knows we might learn some knew things about armament. Just look at coc we thought it was useless for years
@@user-gk6nt5gi5n From what I understood, normal armament Haki does not work on characters that can use advanced conqueror's because luffy could not do anything against Kaido until he unlocked advanced conqueror's Haki and the peak of armament Haki is Ryuo. Basically no advanced conqueror's equals 0 damage against advanced conqueror's users
If Shanks is stronger than Mihawk and Oda doesn’t have Zoro defeat him then Oda is a hack.
We’re gonna get you dawg
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Lol
Dude... The irony of you calling Shanks fans "Shanks glazers" is you're glazing Mikawk and making headcanons of him having stronger Haki than Shanks. Yes, Mihawk should have amazing haki. He's a Yonko Level character and a former rival to Shanks. If you're fighting against Shanks, your Haki has to be up to par. But, stronger... Please. The only area of Haki that Mihawk might have a edge over Shanks is Armament due to his black blade. Other that... Shanks had the better haki feats (as of right now) and it's not even close. Even with Observation... Shanks outdid Mihawk.
It’s not really glazing to me CUs I think Mihawk is confirmed stronger
Thank you mihawk barely have any feats at this point in the story as of right now, shanks definitely has the stronger Haki
@@SuperiorI.Q Where's the confirmation?
@@rongeez1222 You're welcome. It has to be said.
@@SuperiorI.Qmihawk has never been confirmed stronger you’re just a certified mihawk glizzy gobbler. Get your boy some feats first. Shanks is called the observation killer and has the best CoC feats in the series. Only a d rider like you would try to argue with Oda himself when he literally has given shanks the best haki feats in the series whilst your daddy Mihawk is struggling with vista 😂
the clairvoyant cant tell zoro is a conqueror... wild
*Absolute W* 🧛🏼🕺🏻⚔️.
Comments bouta be so funny😭😂
(Also I hear that HOTD theme in the background)
I did that knowing you were the only guy gonna pick up on it
@@SuperiorI.Q My guy 😂🙏🏼 That theme goes unbelievably hard
But if Shanks can cancel Mihawk’s observation Haki, it’s GG.
That said, Haki has branching paths. Shanks might be amazing at combining observation & conqueror’s, but Mihawk might get more raw power from his conqueror’s.
But would Mihawk be WSS if he can get cooked like that by shanks? Especially his once rival, surely he has a way to deal with this
@@SuperiorI.QBut would observation haki cancellation count as a sword skill?
If Shanks doesn’t use it against Mihawk & looses, is Mihawk’s title still good?
Op fans are truly the worst, even a story for 12 yo kids is too much for them.
Shanks is described and presented as a top tier haki since grand line lmao.
He's portrayed to have the best haki in the verse except Roger and maybe prime garp/wb.
On the other hand mihawk has no narrative behind his haki, no feats, no statements except maybe for his observation haki and somehow his haki is stronger than shanks haki ?
Thats crazy to say the least. It was the same situation for the admirals vs yonko, people ignored the all the narrative and were surprised when Luffy smokes kizaru.
Lack of information on Mihawk + shanks constant hype = he 100% has the better haki is what your basically saying. I discussed that in the first 2 mins
@@elfamoso5077 and u talk about 12 Yo kids lmao. Ur 13 from what I can gather
@@SuperiorI.Q no i'm basically saying that the whole narrative of one piece is on shanks side, it's not the hype at this point lmaao it's litteraly the story itself that tells us that shanks haki is the top in OP World and SEEMS on par with Roger haki.
I have no doubt that mihawk haki is top tier but above shanks, very unlikely
@@malekith33 wow what an impressive response from a full grown man.
@@elfamoso5077Sounds like you’re just dick riding instead of coming up with good arguments, son.
Makes sense.
Mihawk should take armament and observation > Shanks.
Mihawk has better armament which's correct but imo both of their observation haki is equal
@@OPTIMUSPRIMETHEGOAT-z6gno he located shanks from a random Island
i like how mihawk stans have nothing to go with except titles lmao. Yk whitebeard was known as worlds strongest man even when roger was still alive, so youd have to make the argument that he is stronger than roger too for mihawks title to hold any weight, you assume mihawk has stronger observation haki than shanks just cuz he has a title implying he has good observation haki. Thats not how power scaling works, you have to take feats, as incomplete as they are AT THE MOMENT and not titles otherwise buggy is the strongest. Your assumption of stronger conquerors haki always wins is stupid, basically you would put marineford luffy who had conquerors above onigashima sanji, not taking other skills and the other haki into consideration. I will give you this that mihawk has better armament feats due to his black blade and shanks lack of feats but otherwise u just glazing bro.
Yeah exactly like...whitebeard s introductory line by buggy is " he's the world's strongest man the only guy who could draw against Roger" ... Roger is literally put on a higher pedestal whitebeard s fame is just that could draw with Roger not the other way around
Exactly. Worlds strongest man > A man
Worlds strongest Swordsmen > A swordsmen
Prime WB > Roger Extreme diff
Mihawk > Shanks Extreme diff
Also, could Luffy in marineford COAT himself with haki? No. Narrative, portrayal, statements, Mihawk beats Shanks. But it will be somewhat close. Extreme diff at best.
@@Mr.Sakazuki
this is so stupid.
one piece fans put too much faith in titles, to the point they can ignore literaly every showing of feats or narrative implications in the series.
@@Mr.Sakazuki It doesn't matter if he could coat himself in coc or not, that's not the point. Due to how sanjis personality is, he'll probably never unlock conquerors haki, so your telling me end of series sanji won't be able to beat wano zoro just because he can't coat himself in conquerors haki? Or with Roger and whitebeard, the only argument of whitebeard being stronger is his devil fruit and NOT conquerors so thanks for disproving your second point with your first. And also narrative, portrayal, statements? Literally all of them point to roger beating whitebeard, didn't he beat the entire rocks crew with Garp granted we don't know much about it. The same thing goes with mihawk and shanks. Titles don't weigh as much as people think, they're mostly symbolism. Like zoro saying he won't ever lose again but he has, it's symbolism and not a definitive thing as he hasnt lost to swordsmen. World's strongest man as he had the most destructive capability and worlds strongest swordsman because he is a better swordsman. Its somewhat implied that imu will use a sword, and titlehawk fans will put mihawk above imu if he does. I'm not saying it's not a close fight, it'll probably be on the scale of aokiji and akainus fight which lasted 10 days and my headcanon is that aokiji lost because of devil fruit matchup. I'm not really a shanks Stan in that sense, I think they're battle could even be a draw, but as far as feats go, as of now shanks has better showings
@@mastergamexer4062 If there are 2 people who are completely equally matched in arma, obs, it will come down to conq. Ultimately, the stronger will power any of the 2 individual's posses, will win. And your conq depends on your will power.
Dorry and broggy just confirmed shanks has the strongest haki this video is knull and void and aged like milk in the dessert lol
Have they met Mihawk or other conquoers out there in the world. shanks using his coc was clashing even with old sick whitebeard! his wifi haki feat tho was top tier and a good showing. I still doubt his haki is better than someone like imu for example
Reading comprehension 💀.
Characters that have currently confirmed conquerors had previous vivre cards that only confirmed their armament and observation.
They confirm the hakis shown in the series.
No point in confirming who is a conqueror before they use it in the series.
Just look at Garp who was trashed for years because "he doesn't have conquerors confirmed in the vivre card that confirmed his armament and observation....so that mean he doesn't have conquerors".
But now he is a conquerors user.
It's about creating hype.
Confirming all the conquerors users 20 years before they actually have fights would drop the hype it could generate later
i pose this question to all shanks fans
if shanks has universally better haki than mihawk, why is yoru a black blade and gryphon isnt
(while no, we dont know how a black blade is forged, its pretty heavily implied its with either strong conquerors or strong armament)
implication is not fact therefore your question is irrelevant. Now onto my question.
If mihawk is stronger than shanks why isn’t he in kaido’s top 5???? 😂
@@olixxdagoat because kaido hadnt met mihawk
@@olixxdagoatBecause Mihawk isn't out for the one piece and doesn't need a pirate crew like him
Shanks doesn't need to master his armament haki that much because he has advanced conqueror's haki which is just a better version of armament, and mihawk doesn't have conqueror's so it would make sense for him to solely rely on armament
Should’ve brought up the recent Zoro x Sanji magazine 😟. It states the pinnacle of Zoro’s swordsmanship was his advanced conquerors haki. If the pinnacle of swordsmanship is haki, Mihawk haki > Shanks’.
Third
Btw I think Mihawk has better observation and armament haki than shanks and he needs to prove it that he has better acoc than shanks if he has it?
Welp he technically needs to prove everything but I think somethings we can just assume
@@SuperiorI.Q Oda blueballing this lazy fucker really is something to watch. I'll probably die in an accident before Mihawk proves to be above old WB (of course not including MFbeard)
@@SuperiorI.Q ye i agree 💯
@@apollyon2018 hes been offscreen his fights against the other 3 seraphims, sengoku and tsuru
Mihawk can have the better armament(due to him having a black blade) better observation(because his epithet is hawk eye) and obv better with the sword. But you gotta give Shanks the edge in conquers because his display of it has arguably been the best in the series so far. He has mastered it to a point where he can cancel out the opponents future sight which I believe would play a big role in a battle. If Mihawk and Shanks were to fight again today I’d give it to Shanks 51/49 (EXTREME DIFF) 😂
This isn't a hot take. If Mihawk is stronger than Shanks as the narrative explicitly stated then yea, he would've stronger Haki.
You know ball
But the Narrative never said that, so it is a hot take
@@MrYondaime705 the narrative said mihwak as strongest swordsman alive in actuality so whats hard here?
@@polamarasettirameswaram8896 Thats not what the narrative said, thats what the World Government said because they are the ones who give out Titles / Epithets.
Mihawk has 3 known Epithets.
Marine Hunter
Hawk Eyes
Strongest Swordsman
When has Mihawk himself ever said hes the worlds strongest swordsman? Show me that panel.
I also never said he isnt the strongest swordsman. He is.
But being the strongest swordsman doesnt mean you’re the strongest Character overall.
And Like Ive already mentioned Before, Mihawk is a stronger sword fighter than Shanks, because hes the worlds strongest swordsman duh
But Shanks has a stronger Conquerors Haki, which means he will still win in the end because Having a stronger Conquerors Haki > Devil Fruits , Tech , and yes Swordsmanship.
And No Swordsmanship and Haki are not the same thing. Characters can be stronger at one of them than the other. We can get into that if you want. Go for it
@MrYondaime705 so what if Mihawk never said that he was the world's strongest swordsman? WG gave Roger and Goatbeard their titles so Roger and Goatbeard are frauds too? Mihawk is acknowledged by EVERYONE as the world's strongest swordsman there is not a single character who ever questioned his title of the world's strongest swordsman EVER. So all this people call him the world's strongest swordsman just for fun?do you really think that Zoro is a type of person who chases after a fraud?are you out of your mind? Bro really thinks that Mihawk is accepted by everyone as the world's strongest swordsman just because he can swing his sword in a fancy way😂. Without monstrous Haki no one can be the Strongest Swordsman in one piece Mihawk doesn't have Devil fruit or other source of power so he must be a very powerful Haki user (maybe most powerful) to be the World's strongest swordsman and to be able to go against top tiers. Without powerful haki he can't beat any top tier with just sword skills doesn't matter how skilled he is. If that's the case Current Zoro can beat him easily.to understand what swordsman is in one piece all you need to do is to look at Zoro and let me ask you this when you look at Zoro how can you still think that Mihawk has weak haki and being a swordsman is just about skills? How?
Good video, tho I disagree a lot. I think you’re trying to pull the Overton Window with some of these claims, and I can respect that. But for a lot of points you basically just said, “Mihawk has everything Shanks has” and then somehow Mihawk is better. I don’t believe we’ll ever see modern Mihawk fight Shanks. If we’re lucky we’ll get a flashback. But lemme ask you this:
If Shanks is to Luffy, what Mihawk is to Zoro, do you still think it makes narrative sense for Mihawk to be stronger or win a fight against Shanks? Only arguing narrative since none of this is concrete as you stated early in the vid.
Good vid, keep it up 👍
Not only is Mihawk called the strongest swordsman, but when he pulled up on Shanks and his crew they were all tense and ready to fight, while Mihawk coolly called Shanks a one armed hasbeen. Bro was cold and clearly did not feel inferior unless he is legit a fraud
But shanks didn't care when mihawk showed up to his crew tho
@@leo_lm1066
Shanks, with his whole crew ready to pounce, was clearly agitated and explicitly said he wasn't in a good mood.