How To Make a 50" Touchscreen Console | UNDER $400 DIY
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
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People always ask how I made 50" 4k Touchscreen Recording Console and for under $400. Here's how I made it. Could this be the RAVEN killer or a replacement for a fraction of the price?
I am using this with Presonus Studio One DAW, but I have tested it with Pro Tools and Logic as well.
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Could this replace the Slate Raven for a fraction of the price?
Probably not. The hardware is only half the equation with Slate.
Yeah, you could spend a ton of time custom-programming all the different gestures for your DAW that Slate Control has all ready to go, figured out and optimized by the pros… but even then, you’re gonna be missing the batch commands and all the other UI features of the Slate software designed to work with it.
Decent option for those on a budget tho.
@@RokSivante very well said!
Thanks, this like next level for me.I am old school with hard disk recorders but recently got studio 5 on my PC because i bought an interface.I use a monitor in my studio as the center point of my work flow.I bought an AirBar the sets at the bottom of my laptop (pc) screen andit turned it into a touch screen with much success.I touch the Lap top screen and move the fader's and other things in the studio 5 software while looking at the movements on the big monitor. With the touch screen frame all i have to do is touch the big monitor screen,Next Level!!!!!!!!
Nice work !! Derek !! love everything homebuilt ...
Thank you!!
Saw you on Andrew Masters channel, love this setup man, great job
Thank you so much!
Here from the Facebook group for Setups, I’m totally gonna be using this in my studio, thank you so much bro!!
Thanks for the support! I will be doing my updated studio tour VERY soon!
Thank you for putting this video together and your other video showing how to make the desk. Hugely innovative thinking that went into this to give us Tony Stark level technology. I ordered my IR frame right after seeing this and I have a 50 inch just hanging around... however if it does not work as well I can see getting the TV you have recommended (decent pricepoint)_ Thanks again bud, this was the best idea I've seen in studio tech in a long time all while saving a buck... knowledge is power...
Thanks for watching and for the kind words. I definitely recommend starting with a cheap tv to make sure you like it. Also make sure to get a piece of plexiglass mount over the screen and under the frame and you will be gold!
I assume you have amassed some experience with the IR grid frame, are you satisfied with it? And what happens when a fly lands on the screen and starts walking around?
What is the thickness of the frame? I am considering this for my own project (40 inch under plexiglass as table top for retro games) and touch would be a nice addition. If you don't mind the questions, thanks in advance.
Wow, sounds cool. I will like to try that. Super thumbs👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿😊
Thank you!
I’m here from the studio one group. Awesome video man. Respect.
Thanks for stopping by and for the kind words! New videos will be posted every week.
Studio one ☝️ crew for life !!!
Thank you for sharing this video.I learn something from it.
Glad you liked it! Let me know if you ever have any questions
I would love to check out some of your touch screens!
Great video man!
Thanks! I need to do an updated video on this that's better quality now that I have all the right gear
Love the star was theme bro!!!!!
Thank you! Its amazing to find out all the musicians who are also Star Wars nerds
Can’t wait for the desk review!
That will be out next week
@@TheDerekFrank awesome man awesome!
I ALWAYS wondered IF that was possible after seeing the SLATE stuff. This video was AWESOME 👌 💪💯
Thank you! Its very possible and very easy. You can even add touch control buttons like on the Slate if you want to
@@TheDerekFrank how can i add the buttons after seeing your setup im very inspired by and building my home studio soon
@@turkiabdulkareem9250 which buttons? I was using Studio One recording software.
Killer Video Thanks man!!!
Thank you!
Super cool man!
Thank you!
Saw you on Andrew Masters, love the set up!
Thank you! Let me know if there are any videos you would like to see me make
@@TheDerekFrank I always appreciate seeing how small spaces can be practically maximized for storage and organization. The kill 2 bird (or 3) with 1 stone approach to why certain things are hung/niched in one place, why lights are angled and positioned for another, why certain sound modules are routed one way, either building a diagram for a it all, or doing it all in your head. How you plan to use your ceiling conduits really has me curious for sure!
Man the Raven 43 is going for 3,000 man I was going to get it until I saw this video man I appreciate you sharing this information
You are very welcome! I was the same way. This has been an amazing piece of my studio
Awesome video man! Im a photographer and wondering if theres drivers to do this set up but also have the function of using a apple pencil or stylus for photoshop
You can definitely use a stylus with this. You can really fine tune the calibration to make it pretty accurate as well. The nice thing about the screen being so big is that you can get a lot of detail
Thanks for this video. I have been considering purchasing an overlay for our large smart TV in our conference room, but many of the videos are 6-8 years old and I wanted something more recent. After having the setup for over a year, are you still satisfied with its performance, and would you still recommend it?
Absolutely! I still use it everyday and love it!! Thanks for watching and let me know if you have any questions
glad i just saw this i was thinking raven,i see the comments on will it work with certain daws,i'll have to read up on this-i have a yoga 13 inch touchscreen and the touch works with anything so im confused why this doesnt do the same...
It just depends on the software. Macs dont work well with touchscreens but PCs do, and some DAWs dont have a lot of touch options. This is also not a native touchscreen, so you have to have the software to make it work to its top potential. It's still really easy to setup though
Thanks Derek!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
No, thank you!
Thank you. Could this be done with dual monitors? As in could you have 2 (or more) touch screens of you bought multiple of that device you used
You can! You have to calibrate it right, but it would work
@@TheDerekFrank thanks!
Awesome inspiration. I am about to try this in my studio soon. Does it work will with multiple monitors?
It does! I I'm actually about to release a new build video!
Thx!
That’s so dope 😩
Thank you!
I am a bit intrigued by this setup... is it possible to make the frame flush with the glass/TV or is it dependent on sensors being above the screen?
I'm basically wanting to build my own monitor-table where the screen is basically invisible when not turned on. Like the tables shown in the original TRON movie. The goal would be a full table surface that is one big flat sheet of shiny plexiglass :D
It has to be above the screen so the infrared beams can recognize the touch points
Me too man' exact same type thing as a Tron classic encom master control tabledesk.
@@beach_hike9006 You need a true touchscreen panel with the sensors embedded in the panel for that. These IR frame beam invisible infra red beams just above the surface of which it is placed on and how those beams are interrupted by fingers is interpreted to actions. Pro: Very affordable, con: if a fly lands on the screen the computer will also detect it as a finger, with all the consequences of it walking around.
Oh my gosh…this is amazing! You literally put the frame on the TV and put a plexiglass on top of the screen? Then calibrate of course…Or did I miss something…Greetings
That really all there is to it!
Great Solution! How did you manage that two finger touch independently controls two sliders and not a stretch/pinch?
Thanks! You can set what your gestures do in the windows touch settings. Really easy to setup to how you need
@@TheDerekFrank Thx, will try this. BTW: Should work with any Multitouch Display. I think.about ab 17-18" Display relativly flat on the table for control Softsynth like Diva, V-Collection etc...
@@freudeamunsinn should work with anything. They have a lot of different size options too
Does pinching work? Wondering about adjusting Q on eq.
Sure does!!! You can even cuatomize gestures
Hi. I have that touchscreen driver updd and an acer screen I use as a touchscreen monitor but how do I make it work with Studio One 6.5?
In the settings there is a an option to use touch controls
You are the boss!!!!!!
No sir, you are the boss!
Derek , would this work to have the ipad screen on that screen you mentioned ?
Not 100 percent sure, but I think it could work. I found this video that might help ua-cam.com/video/CGYNBJojfTM/v-deo.html
Don't know if it has anything to do with me using it on max volume headphones, but it seems that a little compression could do wonders on those vocals! Other than that great information didnt even know touch frames existed !
This was one of my first videos and I recorded through OBS and had my filters too strong. I plan to make an updated video with much better quality
Really? Who cares…
DOPE!!!
Thank you!
Those IR touchscreen frames are pretty cool, but what happens when a fly lands on the screen and starts walking around? Will they be the new cats screwing up your work?
That has definitely happened and even worse when you try to swat it 😹 It has only happened a few times but was both frustrating and funny
I guess my question is how would I get the screen from the Mac to the TV screen? Does it just work with screen mirroring?
You would go from the normal display port on your mac to the TV and then the infrared frame has a usb cable that would also go into the mac.
So I'd like to use this idea but not with my PC if possible can I calibrate it with the PC but then use another source on the display (I'd like to make a sort of smart table which essentially enlarges a tablet running Android as this is much cheaper than buying an touch screen table
Not really sure. I would assume it could work. Would be worth me looking into!
Thanks Frank for your Facebook link
Thanks for watching!
Nice setup!! Do you have any video of you mounting the frame? And how you put the plexiglass on. Is the TV laying onto your desk...like in a wood frame or something? Do you have easy access to the tv ports?
Thanks for watching. I actually just posted the desk build video a few minutes ago. I dont have a video on mounting the frame, bit it was just double sided tape on the bottom of the frame and then stuck it on the plexiglass. I did the same process for putting the plexiglass on the TV. I still have access to all of the ports under the desk
@@TheDerekFrank Cool.
You mentioned screwing something into place. What did you have to screw on?
I'll check for the new video.
@@rimhaila8834 the frame itself comes in 4 pieces and once you snap them together, you have to tighten down some screws so it wont pop out of place
@@TheDerekFrank I was wondering about this as well, you I think you even said it in the video, but now that I'm reading it, it makes a lot more sense, in fact it seems pretty simple, and since your desk encloses everything, you don't really see the in between parts that are layered on top of each other. Brilliant idea for sure!
Do you know if any drawing pencils would work with this type of system?
They will as long as they are compatible with windows touch.
I would, however, check out my new touchscreen video I put out last week. It is a MAJOR upgrade!
🔥HELL YEAH🔥
You need to make one!
This is genius
Thank you!! Super easy to make!
Oh yeah, great
Thank you!
Just hooked mine up to a Win10 PC. I have single touch function out of the box but not multi. I tried downloading driver from the site. I also reached out to "touch base" and waiting on a download link/price. Is there a free solution or something else I can try before paying for Touchbase?
Let me check. I didnt have to install touchbase ony PC to get multitouch.
This may help answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-do-you-enable-multi-touch-gestures-2-finger/f499f9dc-c68e-461e-82a8-e10377f833bd
Hello, I am looking to build a touchscreen table pc for my Autistic son. Thanks for the vid
You are very welcome! I think he will love it
Slammin!
Couldn't have done it without you!
So can I use this touchscreen with a ui24r soundcraft?
You can use it with anything that has a pc app or software
So what type of desk to you have???
I made it. There is a video on my channel showing how I did it
how to do right click and left click using this set up?
You can set different commands. I have mine set for double tapping and holding down on the screen
What thickness of plexiglass did you use?
I think .02 it doesnt have to be super thick, just enough to protect the screen.
Awesome, thank you! Great video and great channel. Look forward to your other videos!
@@midwestrest9817 thanks! I really appreciate the support
@Pierre Baudinat inches
how do you rt.-click?
You can set different actions in the windows settings menu, but I have it set as tap and hold
I thought Cubase didn't support multi touch, how did you get that to work if it's not supported?
That's Studio One, not cubase
@TheDerekFrank oh damn lol it looks like cubase on the video lol
@@ZacharyScottBeats probably because the video quality was not great, but this video taught me A LOT about making videos....and I bought nice gear haha
So you don’t have to do any sauldering or any real mechanical stuff you just change out the screen?
The frame just sticks to the top of an existing screen and has a usb cable that hooks into your computer. Very simple to use
That’s one big mouse , but it’s cool
Thanks!
Is there a way I could mount my 42 inch screen, on the ground at an angle? Or maybe even on the wall
There are some mounts out there that should be able to do it. Check out some ceiling mounts and then mount them to the floor or wall
@@TheDerekFrank never thought of that… that’s a clever work around forsure
@@vincenzoaquila167 did you see my desk build video? That may help too
@@TheDerekFrank I’ll definitely check that out, damn you’re really giving out free game, know that it’s appreciated heavily
@@vincenzoaquila167 happy to do it! If you have any video ideas for me to cover, let me know
Does this need good graphics card to run?
Nope, but I always recommend good video cards if you can. They make the computers run so much better.
@@TheDerekFrank thanks this is crazy.
But there are videos showing how Cubase isn't set up for touch, and using even a proper touch monitor doesn't help because many Cubase controls refuse to respond to touch. That's why you need Aida Sound DTouch or Raven.
I am not using Cubase..........
Does it overheat? What are the pros and cons?
Doesnt overheat at all. It still functions like a normal tv and since the frame is infrared, it doesn't produce any heat. Pros - it looks great, is easy to use, being able to just touch and move faders makes work flow faster.
Cons - if you dont have it calibrated right, it will do different things with your touch gestures, but that is pretty minimal. Also, sometimes I think there is a ghost in in the house because it will start randomly clicking on things, but turns out, it was just a fly hahahahaha
@@TheDerekFrank 😅😅😅 sounds like the machine has integrated AI from the beyond. Beware of skynet..🤣🤣 I'm very tempted I just want to know if I'll be doing the building correctly without any "where did I skip a step" sort of thing. Is there a place where you can get it customized? I'd like to have one that is 54" by 17" sort of like a long panel or even 3 that I can split to make 54" total and almost bezzless. Wonderful video btw great material thank you for sharing...
@@Metalpazallteway I would contact the company that made mine. The link is in the description. They may be able to do some custom.
@@TheDerekFrank Thank you so much Derek I'll look into it. Wonderful material
@@Metalpazallteway thank you for the support!
I tried two different touchscreen frames from different companies on Amazon and none of them worked an inch from each side of the frame. Any help?
Using a mac or pc?
@@TheDerekFrank a desktop, also the frame went past the monitors frame by a quarter of an inch. I ordered a 42” from the same company as you and the frame they sent measured to be 44”. I tried another company and same exact thing… it would work perfect in the middle of the monitor but the sides were not accurate or wouldn’t sense it. You haven’t experienced this issue? Am I just unlucky?
@@gaigesmith9674 I imagine its because of the size difference and the aspect ratio that the frame is telling the computer it has versus the actual aspect ratio of the screen. I have never had that issue personally. Sorry you are having troubles
Is this works with Reaper or any daw? Thank you.
It should work with any DAW that supports touch functions.
That's the issue with Reaper. It doesn't support touch.
@@joetowers4804 time to switch to Studio One!
@@TheDerekFrank I've thought about it. Reaper has many benefits too.
@@joetowers4804 I have heard a lot of good things about it, but after ditching Pro Tools, and I am really happy with Studio One.
Would this work on Ableton and Reaper?
It will definitely support single touch. I think Ableton supports multitouch but I dont think Reaper does. So short answer, yes it will work, but not as many functions as other DAWs
@@TheDerekFrank I was considering getting a hardware Mixer for my setup until I’ve seen this, just going to use an old 1080p TV I never use, this is awesome thank you for this.
@@vincenzoaquila167 you are very welcome! I love having it in my studio and everyone that comes over is blown away by it.
Are you still using this? What would you do differently today if you were going to build this again?
Use it everyday still! Honestly, don't think I would change a thing
Will this work on Mac?
It does, but requires extra software and isn't the most intuitive
huh?
Whaaaaa?
Unless you are using something like UPDD, you are not even utilizing 1% of the capabilities of Touchscreen. Also, UPDD is not just for Mac. I use UPDD on windows. It is magical. Windows Native touch sucks and Windows and S1 do not let customize gestures but UPDD does.
I had UPDD on mac and it was just okay. I programmed my own touch controls for pc, but that will be for a future video
@@TheDerekFrank UPDD Mac has more functions than UPDD Windows. That's just what it is. I read UPDD manual (the documentation) and immediately did some tweaks and I can use the touchscreen to it's Full potential. Also, Programmed as in? Something like Liine Lemur or Open Stage Control or something like the Touchscreens designed by Mark Wary?
The gate is cutting your voice a little to much😃
Get what you pay for on UA-cam
I was wondering about those cuts too, I couldn't tell whether it was a gate or him moving away since the video switched to other show casings.
made a Slate Raven for a fraction of the price 😂
Totally!
Well, I also have installed a 20point Multitouch IR (from GreenTouch) on my 43" 4K TV and I am using Gesturesign with it as well, on windows.
But sad to say, it will never be a Raven.
Why?
1. Raven's main things work on mac because of the UPDD driver. You can use an IR frame on Mac and just call it a day. On Mac, buying an IR frame and buying the UPDD driver will actually make a true Raven Killer.
On windows, well not so much.
UPDD driver's 90% functionality is stripped down in its Windows version anyway.
So yeah, that's my experience.
For basic touch, or basically using the touchscreen as a toy, like moving faders, tweaking some knobs and that's it, this can be great.
For advanced functionality like gestures or using the Touchscreen on Arrangement or Midi editing windows, this'll be subpar compared to Mouse.
I am not bashing you.
I have installed one and so sharing the experience.
300 dollars still expensive xD
Not for a 50" touchscreen