Yep exactly my question you did a before and after with the 300 what about the y62 before and after a tune? Not a fair comparison with mount those figures????
While the 300 series Land Cruiser and Nissan Patrol Y62 owners are talking dyno specs and measuring there peckers the real 4wders are out there in there old 80/105s and GQ/GUs hitting the tracks n giving these old rigs a flogging. You don't need big power on a 4wd just a good set up rig for the tracks you drive every weekend.
Was the y62 done as rear wheels only also or was it done on the 4 wheel dyno. Awesome work comparing apples and oranges though cause the pre tune figures are less than the tuned figures and you've compared a tuned car against a stock car 🤷♂️
Without a doubt, this year will be worse than the last. I lost a lot of money last year as a result of bad investment choices that I would not have made if I hadn't been so worried about my portfolio. I kept investing, but I couldn't determine whether to start paying for a house. In the end, I sold my positions, and the house needed more work than I had planned. I'm not sure how long I can keep going like this
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Patrol by far. I saved 50k and I just need it for a tow tug on the weekends and ferry the kids to and from school weekdays. I won't be spending $50k in petrol over 5yrs. Me that's a clear winner. And I don't need to add oil to the motor between serving. My friend works to Toyota and said why would you by a 300 series. 200 yes not a 300
I couldn't be bothered waiting till I'm old a frail to get a 300 series......plus spending an additional 50K......then being told by Toyota ..."take it or leave it"....🖕FU........So I bought an 'in stock' Patrol Warrior. Best choice ever!
Big mistake , you will pay big time , warrior 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Why do you think people wait for the 300 clearly it’s the better vehicle , o how is the fake wood grain going 😂😂😂😂😂
@@tyzon00800 Didn't pay big time..the Landcruiser is a $50k ripoff dearer. Ford Ranger has topped the sales for 4x4 utes over Hilux.....Smart people believe the Toyotas are overpriced....Only the dumbass's believe the Y62 Warrior still has fake wood.....Chin up mate!
What modifications did the 300 series have done to it? And what did those mods cost? I'm guessing alot. You could prolly buy 3 patrols for what it cost to get the 300 series to those power levels
Put into perspective stock for stock the y62 stomps the 300s for +20k less and the y62 is in competition with the 200s will be very interesting to see the new v6 y63 with the twin turbos after a tune
That dosent seem quite right for the y62... mine is putting pretty much those numbers out at the wheels.. not the hubs. Yes my is tuned with an intake, exhaust and custom dyno tune but is putting out 246wkw and 445wNM at all 4 wheels (not just the rear wheels)
246kw at all 4 isn’t a correct number. We have the 4wd dyno as well as the hubs and have checked back to back. Depending on tyre size (as that makes a difference to numbers) ave is 160-180 at all 4 depending on tyre size. Come down to our dyno and we will run it up on the 4wd dyno as a comparison.
So the reason why Toyotas motors are detuned, is for LONGEVITY And RELIABILITY..... how many of those nissan hand grenades did we all put up with years back, why wasnt there toyota versions of those, because they de tune for that reason, tune it and risk loosing it, and for what reason so you can beat a 80 series off the mark or a tradie wanker in a ranger .... but end of they day, any idiot in a bog stock camry or hyundai i30 is gunna blow the doors off any 300 or y whatever. They arent racecars and arent designed to be.
that's weird on the rating. KW is a rate in which it spins up, if you have 6 wheels or 2... isn't the rate the same regardless. Example if the 2 wheel drive version can do a 0 - 60 mph in 5 sec. and a 4 wheel drive version (all the same in specs) 0 - 60 mph in 5 sec. they have the same power rating. Last example, by his explanation all things being stock oem. A 4 wheel drive vehicle is twice as slow as a 2 wheel drive..... but we all know this is not true, as we just tried a sample of pulling off the line between two exact vehicles one being 2 wd, other 4wd. Am I missing something
A dyno is just a measuring tool, used to measure gains or tune the engine better suited to your wants needs. The tune won’t be any different between the 2 just the numbers. If you don’t quite understand how a dyno works or reads power and torque I’ll explain. It reads power at the hubs/wheels depending on what dyno you’re using. Anything bolted on after the engine requires energy to accelerate (this can’t be accurately corrected so why results vary) wheels use energy to accelerate, so the more that’s engaged and turning (2 or 4) changes the figures dramatically. The y62 on our 4wd dyno in 4wd peaks power at 177kw tuned and runs in 2wd at the hubs 248kw. The energy used to accelerate the extra mass makes the numbers different on the dyno but wouldn’t make a difference on the road as it all accelerates the same. The highest number we have had from the hubs and y62 was 278kw with full exhaust inc headers, airbox, gearbox mods and fuel mods. Our 300series runs 280kw at all 4 wheels on the 4wd dyno. Impressive that a diesel can make more at all 4 than the y62 can make at the hubs with no wheels. And the acceleration is something you wouldn’t believe until you feel it. We have had both cars and love them both. The 300 is far superior in power and performance.
@@bogga163 I'm trying to wrap my head around the Kw... and I'm probably mixing up and introducing other factors when I shouldn't. So a Y62 in 4wd will record 177kw and in 2wd, will record 248 kw. So they truly are spinning at different rates... and physically we are probably seeing that the 4wd may have less KW but less wheel slip on the road surface, while a 2wd may have a higher KW but not as much traction. Because just for fun we had both Y62, one in 4wd and other in 2wd and the difference looked to be reaction times, both stock. It just look like that 71 KW difference should be big enough to see a difference in acceleration. All things considered we only accelerated to 70 kph
Landcruisers are shit. Put 40k into the patrol to match up to the price of a 300 sport and you will have 420kw at all 4 wheels. It would destroy a 300 series.
Supercharged y62 got beaten with a diesel gr by just autos champ, patrols are shit. 3urfe engine supercharged or turboed makes more than the y62 engine
@adob5573 on an 1/8th mile against a patrol with tonnes of extra weight from bullbars and roofracks. Plus it only had 500hp, which is a 20k upgrade at best. Leave the body standard and spend the same amount of money that it cost for that 300 build (160k +) and that 300 would have no chance. Patrol would be pushing 800hp at the engine.
Maybe you should re-watch your own video, your words clearly state "stock Y62 with a muffler delete" you then go on to show the figures, compared to a 300 tuned.
So fully remap a 300 Landcruiser and compare it to a standard y62 patrol.....oh my god!!!!! the Landcruiser produces more power and torque. seriously, am I missing something here???????...................meanwhile the Landcruiser has spat all its transmission internals out.
You must be living under a rock to believe this rubbish - compare standard motors between the two first - but now that you provided bullshit information, what about the "power to weight ratio" after the conversion of the 300?
You could put harrop charger on y62 and still have a spare 40k over a 300series gr sport
Not to mention old mates 300 is chopped and extended.... let's say 80k 😂
Exactly
Yep exactly my question you did a before and after with the 300 what about the y62 before and after a tune? Not a fair comparison with mount those figures????
The y62 was tuned. Gained @20kw
You said in vid stock bar a muffler delete is that the tune
While the 300 series Land Cruiser and Nissan Patrol Y62 owners are talking dyno specs and measuring there peckers the real 4wders are out there in there old 80/105s and GQ/GUs hitting the tracks n giving these old rigs a flogging. You don't need big power on a 4wd just a good set up rig for the tracks you drive every weekend.
How long will the drive train last in the 300 with that much torque?
Not long. You hit the nail on the head.
Bout as long as the engine 😂😂
longer than the warranty now it's been chopped n tuned.
Was the y62 done as rear wheels only also or was it done on the 4 wheel dyno. Awesome work comparing apples and oranges though cause the pre tune figures are less than the tuned figures and you've compared a tuned car against a stock car 🤷♂️
Agreed 👍
Y62 was tuned results, same hub dyno and both as 2x4 so def apples with apples.
Both tuned, ran on the same dyno and both in 2x4
smells fishy mate @@bogga163
What mods have you done to prevent oil overheating or intercooler boiling?
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Do the smart thing… buy a Patrol..
And lose more cash when you sell it and you will ,than the 300
@@tyzon00800lmfao go back to bed dopey you're still drunk
@tyzon00800 and pay way more for it
Drop 30k that extra at a minimum you pay on a super charger then let's compare
Patrol by far. I saved 50k and I just need it for a tow tug on the weekends and ferry the kids to and from school weekdays. I won't be spending $50k in petrol over 5yrs. Me that's a clear winner. And I don't need to add oil to the motor between serving. My friend works to Toyota and said why would you by a 300 series. 200 yes not a 300
No it doesn’t you will lose more when you sell it , and you will than a 300.
I couldn't be bothered waiting till I'm old a frail to get a 300 series......plus spending an additional 50K......then being told by Toyota ..."take it or leave it"....🖕FU........So I bought an 'in stock' Patrol Warrior. Best choice ever!
We have had both, love both of them for different reasons. Well done on your purchase
Big mistake , you will pay big time , warrior 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why do you think people wait for the 300 clearly it’s the better vehicle , o how is the fake wood grain going 😂😂😂😂😂
@@tyzon00800 Didn't pay big time..the Landcruiser is a $50k ripoff dearer.
Ford Ranger has topped the sales for 4x4 utes over Hilux.....Smart people believe the Toyotas are overpriced....Only the dumbass's believe the Y62 Warrior still has fake wood.....Chin up mate!
Dobt rhise y62 come in Diesel?
What modifications did the 300 series have done to it? And what did those mods cost? I'm guessing alot. You could prolly buy 3 patrols for what it cost to get the 300 series to those power levels
Tune only gets these results, an intercooler upgrade is the one mod they need but even in stock form this helps.
Would like to know the weight difference between the two. . . . .
Chassis extension would lower the figure, due to longer tailshafts.
Hey mate
Guessing the patrol was already tuned? As wasn't stated othere then muffler delete.
Yes y62 was tuned, std headers etc just the muffler delete
What one goes faster in reverse ?
This would be a good test
Put into perspective stock for stock the y62 stomps the 300s for +20k less and the y62 is in competition with the 200s will be very interesting to see the new v6 y63 with the twin turbos after a tune
What boost is the tuned 300 running at?
42psi
@@bogga163 42psi! That's crazy boost. What do they boost stock out of interest?
That dosent seem quite right for the y62... mine is putting pretty much those numbers out at the wheels.. not the hubs. Yes my is tuned with an intake, exhaust and custom dyno tune but is putting out 246wkw and 445wNM at all 4 wheels (not just the rear wheels)
246kw at all 4 isn’t a correct number. We have the 4wd dyno as well as the hubs and have checked back to back. Depending on tyre size (as that makes a difference to numbers) ave is 160-180 at all 4 depending on tyre size. Come down to our dyno and we will run it up on the 4wd dyno as a comparison.
What was the point of that?
You should have compared stock vs stock.
Comparing modified vs stock is meaningless.
Chuck a 48v Hybrid Hilux on and compare to the 1GD pre 48V and show why the new one goes better with the same peak numbers.
We haven’t dyno’d any electrics yet, super keen for it tho!
So the reason why Toyotas motors are detuned, is for LONGEVITY And RELIABILITY..... how many of those nissan hand grenades did we all put up with years back, why wasnt there toyota versions of those, because they de tune for that reason, tune it and risk loosing it, and for what reason so you can beat a 80 series off the mark or a tradie wanker in a ranger .... but end of they day, any idiot in a bog stock camry or hyundai i30 is gunna blow the doors off any 300 or y whatever. They arent racecars and arent designed to be.
that's weird on the rating. KW is a rate in which it spins up, if you have 6 wheels or 2... isn't the rate the same regardless. Example if the 2 wheel drive version can do a 0 - 60 mph in 5 sec. and a 4 wheel drive version (all the same in specs) 0 - 60 mph in 5 sec. they have the same power rating. Last example, by his explanation all things being stock oem. A 4 wheel drive vehicle is twice as slow as a 2 wheel drive..... but we all know this is not true, as we just tried a sample of pulling off the line between two exact vehicles one being 2 wd, other 4wd. Am I missing something
A dyno is just a measuring tool, used to measure gains or tune the engine better suited to your wants needs. The tune won’t be any different between the 2 just the numbers. If you don’t quite understand how a dyno works or reads power and torque I’ll explain. It reads power at the hubs/wheels depending on what dyno you’re using. Anything bolted on after the engine requires energy to accelerate (this can’t be accurately corrected so why results vary) wheels use energy to accelerate, so the more that’s engaged and turning (2 or 4) changes the figures dramatically. The y62 on our 4wd dyno in 4wd peaks power at 177kw tuned and runs in 2wd at the hubs 248kw. The energy used to accelerate the extra mass makes the numbers different on the dyno but wouldn’t make a difference on the road as it all accelerates the same. The highest number we have had from the hubs and y62 was 278kw with full exhaust inc headers, airbox, gearbox mods and fuel mods. Our 300series runs 280kw at all 4 wheels on the 4wd dyno. Impressive that a diesel can make more at all 4 than the y62 can make at the hubs with no wheels. And the acceleration is something you wouldn’t believe until you feel it. We have had both cars and love them both. The 300 is far superior in power and performance.
@@bogga163 I'm trying to wrap my head around the Kw... and I'm probably mixing up and introducing other factors when I shouldn't. So a Y62 in 4wd will record 177kw and in 2wd, will record 248 kw. So they truly are spinning at different rates... and physically we are probably seeing that the 4wd may have less KW but less wheel slip on the road surface, while a 2wd may have a higher KW but not as much traction. Because just for fun we had both Y62, one in 4wd and other in 2wd and the difference looked to be reaction times, both stock. It just look like that 71 KW difference should be big enough to see a difference in acceleration. All things considered we only accelerated to 70 kph
You should check the LC300 Sahara ZX vs The GRS version
So you didn't tune the 62, wonder why 🤔
What has that achieved both good cars
NA vs turbo
Landcruisers are shit. Put 40k into the patrol to match up to the price of a 300 sport and you will have 420kw at all 4 wheels. It would destroy a 300 series.
Supercharged y62 got beaten with a diesel gr by just autos champ, patrols are shit. 3urfe engine supercharged or turboed makes more than the y62 engine
@adob5573 on an 1/8th mile against a patrol with tonnes of extra weight from bullbars and roofracks. Plus it only had 500hp, which is a 20k upgrade at best. Leave the body standard and spend the same amount of money that it cost for that 300 build (160k +) and that 300 would have no chance. Patrol would be pushing 800hp at the engine.
@@80sShred rubbish car company on verge of bankruptcy again harrops kit only makes just over 500hp flywheel
@@adob5573 You have no clue what you are talking about.
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@adob5573 You don't have the slightest clue what your talking about.
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Tuned 300 stats against a stock n/a petrol......... C'mon
Bring a turbo y62 in and give it a go
Y62 was tuned
Why the fuck is the music so.loud
Arr yes, their the same as we compared tuned 300 to stock y62 ha ha ha
@@geoffreyfox7618 y62 tuned also only mods were muffler delete
Not a very good comparison. 2wd versus 4wd and stock tune versus tuned tune. 😂😂
Both on the same hub dyno in 2x4 and both tuned.
Maybe you should re-watch your own video, your words clearly state "stock Y62 with a muffler delete" you then go on to show the figures, compared to a 300 tuned.
So fully remap a 300 Landcruiser and compare it to a standard y62 patrol.....oh my god!!!!! the Landcruiser produces more power and torque. seriously, am I missing something here???????...................meanwhile the Landcruiser has spat all its transmission internals out.
@@ironhorse7601 y62 was tuned only mods were muffler delete
What a ridiculous tune,great way to destroy the engine after you have destroyed your warranty
so you compared a post tuned poozer against an untuned patrol??? go biased or go home. haha tune the y62 and get back to us will you.
You must be living under a rock to believe this rubbish - compare standard motors between the two first - but now that you provided bullshit information, what about the "power to weight ratio" after the conversion of the 300?