The Fate of Warriors (40k)-Army Combat Vet REACTS to Thunder Warriors by Baldemort
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2021
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in my head cannon the thunder warrior probably just said "how could he" before he died, and the rest was just in his head
I think with servo skulls they are often the remains of noted imperial servants who performed their duties in an exemplary manner. As such its kind of seen as an hour to have your skull turned into a servo skull. Kinda carries the implication that you continue to serve the emperor past your own mortality
Yep. Having your remains turned into a servo skull is one of the highest honors one can achieve for a lifetime of loyal duty to the Imperium.
So is the skull of the person still alive?
@@thesmilinggun-knight9646 Technically, no. It's one of those weird parts of the lore that's inconsistent. Some parts of the lore says the Mechanicus is able to contain the person's soul when creating a servo skull, other parts say that they only keep a portion of the brain matter alive through cybernetics since the Imperium has a law about no intelligent AI.
@@thesmilinggun-knight9646 The lore isn't completely clear on that(I'm sure a lore master could correct me). I'd have to say technically no, it's a bio-mechanical construct with the living organic parts marginally kept alive by cybernetics.
@@oldeskul I always figured they'd have to scoop out the ol thinking blob to make way for the various mechanical parts like lifters etc .
When a Space Marine punches you he has a great chance of breaking your bones instantly, if a Thunder Warrior punches you then your lucky if you'll only being in two peices and not a fine Chunky salsa.
@Space Vatnik what he meant is that marines are more well rounded as a unit but thunders are optimized for damage, if you put a marine and a thunder in a cage, both without armor just hand to hand the thunder wins, but in a unit v unit the marine wins
@@unavela barely
@@woaddragon which one you mean barely? 1v1 or squad v squad
@@unavela squad. While.space marine are tactical flexible and general smarter, there are stories there.that story on how a trio of thunder warriors was able to hold out against ant wntire company in some prison or other.
@@woaddragon oh yeah I remember those, although you gotta take into account that those thunders weren't any regular thunders, by process of elimination (bc i think the whole prison thing happens after the betrayal) only the very best of the thunders had survived, all others were dead.
“The God-Emperor had not always had his sons. In times long since forgotten, the Emperor had need, not for surgical scalpels, but for hammers. In those times, the flesh crafting arts that would soon mold the Astarties was crude, unrefined, but the one thing it was not, was ineffective. Thus, in His time of need, the Emperor crafted the Thunder Warriors, towering brutes with the strength of twenty men combined, but their enhanced strength cost them their minds. And with His Warriors, the Emperor subjugated all of Terra. Nothing less than total faith, total submission came from the Warriors, but with the end of His campaign and Terra unified, the Emperor no longer needed His hammers, His Warriors. They were discarded as trash, slaughtered like pigs, and abandoned by their own creator. But you wouldn’t know about any of this. How could you, when, in shame, the Emperor hid the truth from all of you? No, you wouldn’t know.”
where is this from?
@@istvanbarath6333 my brain. Though stitched together through bites of 40K lore, the sum is my own interpretation of a disillusioned Custodies reliving the days before unification and after the Mt. Ararat massacre.
@@tomsawyerpiper9412 Valdor's the most obvious candidate, I guess.
So for a situation where there was a, to my understanding, humanity wise collapse, with the Bronze Age collapse.
That’s where you get a lot of stories of people seeing massive structures that the people of the day couldn’t hope to rebuild. Which is where I think 40k draws inspiration from, rather than the fall of Rome.
Although to be fair, there are aspects of Roman engineering techniques that we still don't understand and can't reproduce. Roman concrete, for example.
@Space Vatnik for 30k-41k definitely.
But I’m more talking about the age of strife. Paul references not really knowing a time where humanity collectively regressed, and I feel the Bronze Age collapse fits as an irl analogy where collectively humanity regressed
@@jakejohnson9552 You know what, that work put. Bronze age collaspe did.happen long before the.fall of Rome.
@@chesterstevens8870 we worked out Roman concrete iirc. something to do with sea water being a necessary element.
Paul; if you like Baldermort's method of dramatic lore dumps, you should REALLY check out another 40k narration channel called "A Vox in the Void."
EDIT: and while I agree that servo-skulls are morbid and creepy, they really don't hold a candle to anything that the Ecclesiarchy got up to in their heydays. Arcoflagellants and Penitent Engines make servos look like frolicking puppies by comparison.
FLYING.CYBORG.BABIES.
We can all agree that "Techno-Barbarian King" is a banger of a title.
The emperor put the thunder warriors together like a kid who had to put a Lego death star together in less than 20 mins....compared to the space marines.....
The Thunder Warriors were a stop gap, like the M3 Lee, to be replaced like in this analogy by a superior product, the Astartes being the M4 Sherman. The Astartes and Thunder Warriors actually fought together (sort of, they existed at the same time near the end of the Unification Wars). Thunder Warriors were more like roided out Gorillas, Strong sure, but not that smart. The Thunder Warriors were unstable, both physically and mentally, they were a suitable enough force to unite Terra, but they could just spasm and die with how hap-hazardly they were made. That and they once massacred an entire civilian center in an already conquered and compliant territory for the fun of it... The Astartes were a better choice, they weren't as strong, they weren't as fast, but they were not only stable but strategic and capable of higher levels of critical reason. In the lore of the Thunder Warriors that escaped, some sought death in glorious battle by attacking the Imperial Palace, others created an Organized Criminal Network, and Arik Taranis, their leader, actually managed to stabilize the remaining Thunder Warriors with him using Astartes Gene Seed, some even survived well into the Horus Heresy.
Also about the Emperor bit, he's not a God, he isn't all knowing, he is super smart yes, but in present lore he didn't make Astartes, he did make Custodes though, and he had a lot of help to make the Primarchs. He also has canonically banged before and that hasn't been retconned yet. He essentially is the smartest and most powerful human being in the Galaxy playing 4D chess with ancient primordial entities. He could foresee the future but the future is not set in stone. It is believed, and I am a believer in this, that the Emperor purged himself of his human emotions in the process of making the Primarchs, (He also bound ancient cosmic warp entities to them) so each of his twenty (21 technically) sons could represent a part of him, and when they died , those parts returned to him. Also a lot of humanity actually regressed technologically and culturally during the bronze age collapse that saw the downfall of all of the Mediterranean.
@@jacobyin5320 God I fucking hate that astartes creation retcon, just serves no purpose whatsoever. Just keep taking more of his achievements away from him
@@axelNodvon2047 they just needed to inject a strong woman character in there
I wouldn't call the Astartes (or their primarchs) physically and mentally stable. Sure, they wouldn't have a stroke in the middle of battle, get cancer, or relive old battles in their old age, but half of them did turn to Chaos and even the "kindest" of the loyalists will set children on fire in a fit of rage. Between the War Hounds, Night Lords, Blood Angels and the Space Wolves, the Thunder Warriors seem more stable than bedrock. If an Astartes legion had the same flaws they did, it'd still make them a fairly average legion.
Frankly it all just comes down to economics. Thunder Warrior lives weren't cheap. Astartes lives are.
@@Dimetropteryx Oh certainly, Astartes and their Primarchs' problems weren't AS bad as their Thunder Warrior predecessors but were definitely a step up from "Butchering an entire compliant civilian populace out of boredom". Going back to my analogy, The M4 Sherman (Astartes in this case) still had their own problems to deal with, but was still a marked improvement over the M3 Lee (Thunder Warriors).
This reads like they're trying to hunt down Riddick on a dark planet.
Hunting Jackie Chan in IKEA
@@boartank Oh good god, that’s terrifying
Because they pretty much are. Thunder warriors were highly unstable but INSANELY CAPABLE.
the story about the thunder warriors eerily mirrors the "Night of the Long Knives" were the SA was purged .
"How could he" the last words. The rest is running through his head as the darkness closes in. That's my headcanon anyway.
I think a thing to understand is that the Emperor never wished to establish a Theocracy he hated the idea of Gods and despised being called such example the Word Bearers
27:00 technological regression does occur to a civilization when said civilization gets cut off and isolated. This was witnessed in Australia where a realtivly small island broke off from the mainland. The natives on that island regressed even farther then the aboriginals on mainland Australia despite being more advanced then the other tribes historically before that.
However in 40k I believe the lore is that humanity regressed not because knowlage was forgotten, but because it was never learned in the first place. When humanity reached ascendancy it was first done by the men of gold. (Who we suspect to be genetically superhuman who created the human Federation, and the men of stone. The men of stone created the men of iron in tandem. Eventually all of the men of gold passed away.
Humanity by this point was apparently living in abject luxury and pampering. (And apparently humanity was ok with having no struggles or problems for some reason.) However as a consequence of machines handling everything humanity simply stopped learning how everything worked. To the point in which they literally started to veiw there own technology as magic beyond them.
So humanity post the machines had to relearn everything from scratch.
Ushatan is a beast. When you get to meet Ushatan, and when he duels Konstantin Valdor, I fell in love with the character.
Also Ushatan was a thunder warrior Primarch
@@gopnik9967 Just to clarify, Primarch was a title to the Thunder Warriors, like Captain is to a Space Marine.
@@Orannis01 thats what I meant haha.
@@Orannis01 I thought the title was more akin to legionmaster or commander
The Emperor didn't necessarily use as much tech as you think he should have because he was trying to get away from reliance on tech use and he himself WAS a super weapon. Kind of a guess, but surgically use your great psycher abilities and TWs (tanks on feet) to take objectives. Also, he probably had a lot of nukes and such, but was careful to use them.
The servo skull is actually viewed as a great honor that must be earned. Being made into a servitor, however, is a great punishment.
Baldermort is *_the_* best narrator of lore and writer stories when it comes to Warhammer 40k, the Thunder Warriors video was the first one of his i ever saw and i've been an ardent fan ever since.
The best part of this is that Primaris marines now exist. And in all their power and superiority, the first-born of the space marines may have a rude awakening to what the thunder warriors realized too late.
If one day we will get a glimpse of this for an even bigger fracture in the Space Marines chapters that may lead to something not as dire as the Horus Heresy but equaly as bad, ooooh boy that wpuld be nice
Thunder Warriors: I FUCKING TELL YE'S! I TELL YE'S!
It wouldn't surprise me if that's where GW we're slowly heading, to a second Heresy, it would certainly shake things up a bit.
@@adamr6621 immagine if this time Lion wakes up and says "ok I don't care anynore of this, call the Fallen and tell them to repent asap, we leave the Imperium"
@@jetpilledmyron2056 I just hope they don't go the 'Age of Sigmar' route and completely change everything.
Another Heresy would work, but I wouldn't go further than that, at least not yet.
The reason for the regression was that basically everything was controlled by AI, then there was an AI rebellion that somehow humanity survived and defeated (this is where servitors and using brains as processors comes from, because you can’t use most robots anymore), most of their best tech is from before this time, but they aren’t even using it to its full extent because it was designed to be used by AI and they don’t even know how to use a lot of it.
This may be wrong but I heard somewhere that some of their ships just have black hole cannons and time warping nonsense guns that they just don’t know about or don’t know how to use.
Then suddenly wizards were real, and sometimes they just get possessed by monsters that can mind control everybody around them, to the level of some taking entire continents or worlds, or daemons would show up, or any other horrifying warp nonsense…
And then immediately after somehow not all dying by robot or witch then the warp suddenly became almost impossible to travel and a lot of worlds relied on trade to survive… Terra wasn’t growing it’s own food, it was something like Star Wars Croissant levels of populated when suddenly they stopped getting resources of any kind. Many other worlds were similar.
Then when suddenly travel became possible again it wasn’t just Humanity doing it, some aliens or “xenos” would go around messing stuff up for humans even more.
Edit: phrasing and also I forgot about the psyker thing
0:36 servo skulls the weirdest and darkest things in the imperium?
cherub:
trigger warning:everything (you have been warned)
baby corpses hollowed out and stuffed with an anty-grav unit and speakers, dressed up like little angles constantly playing hymns. Usually hovering near preachers and high officials to make them appear more pius.
Yea, Cherubs are super gross and creepy.
At least it's said alot of them, not all, are vat grown babies for the specific process of being turned into a Cherub.
Still...Super creepy.
I get what you're talking about when you say humanity doesn't tend to regress as a general thing. However, keep in mind the damage done by the rebellion of the Men of Iron. Humanity only just barely survived that war. That of course was followed by the emergence of uncontrolled Psykers summoning legions of literal daemons. Societies either became super authoritatian and regressive to halt the threat of the Psykers, or they didn't and got fucked in the A by said daemonic incursions. On top of all of that, mass death and social upheaval from planets being cut off from one another. Many who relied on agriworlds for food and could no longer support their populations.
The life of the Thunder Warrior was, rather poetically, like a thunderclap. Loud, impactful and short-lived. Created at a time where super soldiers were needed ASAP, and the Big E needed to get the maximum potential out of whatever resources were on hand in a post apocalyptic Earth. They didn't need to be efficient, just powerful. Nor did they need to be long-lived, only needing to last long enough to fight a few quick and decisive campaigns. They also weren't the noble warriors that the Space Marines are, Thunder Warriors were savage and bloodthirsty, equal to if not worse than the barbaric tribes they were designed to destroy. Which is why they were themselves destroyed, once the planet was unified they became a threat to humanity.
Here is a question: since Emperor has a perfect memory and thusly could remember every soldier that works for him, would that lead him seeing his soldiers as numbers faster or slower. Since he could actually know their life stories etc. but it would also mean that every loss would be that much harder for him at the beginning. (Ignoring his possible superhuman empathy, will power and mental endurance, since he only seems to be human with abilities cranked up to 1000.)
This also applies to many of the Primarchs. Not all of them, but several of them knew the names and faces of every Astartes in their legion.
Think of counties and cities being isolated to the point of not being able to leave limits their resources, and the whole Mad Max thing like you said could happen in severely devasted areas that could never hope to provide for themselves. Thankfully others were able to provide for themselves but cannot grow farther than their worlds can support, even artificial sustenance can only go so far without complicated processes.
it is such a tragic story of the thunder warriors they truly did love him as a father and would die for him, to imagine the betray of a father figure and then amplify it by 10 would be the sort of feeling those warriors felt, i think when Baldermort is narrating the thunder warriors last breath, the thunder warrior spoke about how confused they all were and although it seems like a throwaway line of dialogue, i cant help but empathise with him, imagine the range of emotions they all must of felt, confusion, pain, sadness, all because they were no longer " useful", they gave up there lives as tribesmen for him they left their families, loved ones, possibly wives and children for him, the trust they placed in him, untold numbers of soldiers gave up their way of life for him whether it was through the reasons of personal gain (to become a super solider) or if it was through the belief that he did care about them they all ended up admiring him on a scale of what seems to be near fanaticism, the thunder warrior tells us this "we would follow him into hell if he had so asked", that's why their story is so painful to me personally, I would argue one of these most painful in the universe for that simple yet complex reason. although they never worshipped him he was a god to them, and to be betrayed by your father and your god must be the most emotionally devastating imaginable.
just realised i rambled a bit there but i hope i got my point across.
I think he said it because of shock the way someone in a movie says it move so fast or it came out of no where even when the thing looks human because its moving outside normal human parameters
The Bronze Age Collapse seems sorta similar to the Age of Strife where humanity regressed.
I think the Bronze Age Collapse was the closest thing we had to worldwide regression. We literally ran out of people who could read and write in some areas. But you are right things still continued in places like Asia and North Amercia. But in the Mediterranean almost all civilized people vanished following that collapse.
The thunder warriors and space marines were created to be weapons of terror, which is why they use such horrifying weapons. In the universe of 40k, you have what's called transhuman shock, when a normal human sees a transhuman warrior, they are often frozen in fear or awe as those warriors move with an inhuman grace, speed and precision.
THERE ARE NO PLACE FOR THE THUNDER WARRIOR IN MY CIVILIZED GALAXY!!! and the Night Lords/World Eaters/Dark Angels/Space Wolves/Lunar Wolves.... nah, its chill we have some room left for those :)
There was also a great collapse during the bronce age, it was that devastating, that we still not know what happen just that it did.
I think it must be added in fairness that being a god doesn't mean being infallible.
Chaos isn't "divine" in the sense of being infallible or perfect, because they're not. Neither are they ultimate moral authorities.
And yes, I know that last part is strange to say, but it bears reiterating because I think a lot of the fandom fail to realize the Chaos doesn't _rule_ over human emotions, it feeds on them. We precede them and not the other way around. And this is in particular is Lorgar's ultimate fallacy. He presumed the divine needed worship, rather than first asking whether the divine deserved it.
The better-written material from the perspective of Chaos Marines show that most of them really aren't Lorgar-style worshipers. Many of them resent being slaves to Chaos, but simultaneously, they also view the Emperor as a tyrant who really just tried to enshrine himself as a god, and even if he didn't, it's not like the present-day "corpse worshipers" of the Imperium would ever take them back nor tolerate them. So there really isn't an endgame for them that involves a better way besides continuing with the Long War. A lot of the smarter Chaos Marines, in their own twisted sort of way, sense that they're trapped in a no-win situation ideologically.
The priests on either side, are of course, insane.
Exactly, the Chaos Gods are not Gods and *NEVER* will be. Their ambition to burn the galaxy is as self defeating as their nature.
You need to make a stone club before you can forge a steal sword. He didn't have Mars when he made the Thunder Warriors, or really much of tech or the like. And he needed an army.
I've always thought the Emperor saw humanity as a means to an end. No regard given.
Nah humanity’s survival and prosperity is the end for the emperor everything and everyone he uses are the means.
Example of humanity regressed: Bronze-age collapse. That said, regression in warhammer 40k is unprecedented in human history simply because it involves space and aliens which changes things significantly.
Baldermort is fuckin lit. Love your vids Paul. Keep it up brother.
On the emperor, the hubris no one can really discuss, but you are mistaken into thinking he is just a human, there are reasons to believe he is a man of gold, either that or an amalgama of shaman souls reborn as a great warrior with all knowledge powers and skills of ever single one of those souls, a human he is not, a mere man he. is. not. he is the most powerfull psyker ever born, or created, the most perfect man to ever exist , the pinnacle of human, that humanity can become, and the undisputed master of mankind, adn final lord of humanity, the god of the imperium of man, and the only hope the whole species can have, agaist a galaxy and an immaterium that hates us for existing, and whether we like it or not, is our one and only chance of survival.
Ave imperator, gloria, in ecxelsus Terra.
There this channel called simple history and the stuff they have covered some of the most fascinating soldiers out there… like the British Solider Mad Jack, Finnish sniper named The white death(who was so feared the Russian Army called Artillery strikes in an attempt to kill him(mind you he did this with out a scope) and American Sniper White feather who managed to shoot an enemy sniper though their scope
There are some others but I named these three due to how interesting those videos were.
I am so stoked to see you reacting to one of Brother Baldermort's videos. Please do more, especially the more recent ones. If you want to get just his audio dramas and to catch up to current content, check out his Story So Far videos (Thaddeus and Tarquinus, and Chaos being my favorites.)
Found an interesting video on Battle order called. "Why America's Nuclear Army Failed (Pentomic Army)" I would like to hear your thoughts on it.
This and his konrad kurze video are probably my absolute favorite videos from him regarding his storytelling skills... well that and the thaddeus series.
hello Combat Veteran , please react to The Last Church - Fan Animated pre Horus Heresy Short Story ... it's one of the best short stories... if you don't know anything about it, just go blind in it and react to it, you specifically will love it as it goes into a back and forth debate on topics your cover here.
"He's got a long speech for someone who's diaphragm has been impaled."
Well... Considering that diaphragm is probably the size of my entire torso... Maybe? XD
It just occurred to me that GW took a great deal of inspiration for the Emperor from Paul and Leto II from the Dune series. Powerful and arrogant, but ultimately caring for humanity and trapped in their role.
You should definitely react to the last church
You NEED to watch “The Last Church”. I can guarantee you would love it.
Yes with the info we have now the thunder warrior slaughter was dumb, they could have been sent along with the astartes into space with the crusade. They die off eventually then no more worries.
12:10 but astartes have smart super clotting so they instantly seal wounds xD
Servo skulls are dope, it's like the old practises of ossuaries it gives you a solid link to the past and the deeds of your forebears. Skulls being morbid is a cultural construct. Plus the idea of still being able to visibly contribute for centuries after your death has a certain charm as long as the duty is of some kind of symbolic or practical significance
Also that characterization of the thunder warriors at the beginning was baldermorts own fiction. Its been canonical stated the thunder warriors were a LOT more human. They also understood the emperor better than another later servants of His. They mostly figured he was going to betray them and accepted it as a necessity due to they're being to unstable, bloody handed and undisciplined to forge a galactic empire of any kind of stability. The ones that survived the betrayal were ok with this and mostly just wanted to go out in a good scrap, proving they were right about themselves. Furthermore they NEVER would have worshipped him they were almost universally a cynical bunch due to the trauma of actually being a thunder warrior (your biology was supercharged but also inevitably broke down in a violent and painful way). Nevertheless they thought the emperor was not only correct but morally correct in his actions against them. They supported him wholeheartedly even in their deaths knowing if they were allowed to live they would become nothing better than mad dogs in fancy armour rampaging across the galaxy. Its also why they were so much stronger than a astartes incidentally.
They were NOT undersupplied it wasn't that type of betrayal, they fought a proper war alongside the custodes and then once the enemy was killed to a man the lines were redrawn and the custodes went against the thunder warriors.
Incidentally it's a misconception that the astartes were a refinement of thunder warriors, they were a different thing with a different purpose, on the one hand far stronger and more bespoke but far less disciplined and difficult to mass produce. Kind of like a middle ground between custodes and a starter really. Same thing with the primaries it's often said they're thunder warriors, this is a nonsense as if anything they are a more concentrated conversion of what an astartes is rather than the berserk murderers that were the thunder warriors.
I dunno maybe it'll change but this a complete misdirection on baldermorts behalf so far. This is essentially a canonical incorrect fanfic.
Hey it actually happened! Awesome!
This is my second fav video of his (his kreig vid is my most)
those 100 people wont be doing anything if the 1 guy doing maintenance in the factory disappears
and we have so many industries depending on other industries that honestly if something properly collapses we wont train people up fast enough to keep things going with the on demand supplies we have to cut costs
You should definitely react to ‘Chaos gate daemonhunters’, it is a game set in the 40k universe(Will release on the 5th of May). I would love to see your review/breakdown to the trailer and other contents shown so far! (Btw Andy Serkis is in the game!)
A great follow up to this would be to go Listen to 'The Last Church'.
Some technological regression took place around the time when Rome was in decline or actually fell. I can think of two examples: the methods by which the segmented armor was made was lost to the point where people actually went a step backwards for a few centuries and made chainmail armor instead, and second some of the metalurgical processes. The steel wasn't as great as it used to during height of roman times, and also from what I've heard the methods to create lead was lost to the point where the only source of lead during middle ages was just taking it from roman pipelines.
Well when west Rome fell, for a long time, there was no architectural works. People no longer work stones, but mud bricks at best. Huge city dies out, damaged civil infrastructure was considered irreparable leading to cities being abandoned, roads degraded and vanished because no one has the know how nor the resource and incentive to tend to them, etc. Etc.
As for his point on civilization wide collapse not being a thing keep in mind the age of strife was more like nuclear winter than it was like the fall of an empire in fact it was worse (nuclear winter with Clarke's third law weapons dark magic summoning demons and warp storms making each world separate from the universe etc.) The age of strife shouldn't be compared to rome falling it should be compared to nuclear Armageddon in fact looking at whats described i bet the only reason humankind didn't go extinct was because of nuke proof hive cities.
2 things.
1 space Marines have 2 hearts, so I'm not sure how that would play into the diaphragm.
2 space Marines also have a system that quickly coagulates blood and creates scar tissue
You should watch Baldemort video on the Iron Warriors
Man, I kinda want him to react to the Templin Institute’s Human-Covenant War video.
the Historian is making it seem like his dying words. I bet the Thunder Warrior was pontificating to a battered Astartes peeled from his armor while the T-W setting up a dueling ground for him to lose honorably.
You should react to Mickey never came back from ethereal snake I think it would be great to see a veteran react to it
Holy Shit he's finally doing it
bro new SODAZ video dropped
I like to think that the emperor literally wacked them with a hammer to finish the process
Big E wiped out the Thunder Warriors because they were unstable. He would have kept them around if they were suited for maintaining a empire but they where only suited for the Judge Dred environment that was going on, on earth at the time
There is less of a labor shortage and more employers not wanting to employ people. I had to apply to a bunch of different places before I heard back from anyone
out of all warhammer short stories, you will like most the short story The Last Church - Fan Animated pre Horus Heresy Short Story
25:15 thunder warriors where made to be deposable and expendable to retake terra as they're astarties who abuse cocaine and steroids, with the negative effects too. Astarties are more stable therefor they are better for maintaining control after conquest instead of pure conquest
I think the way the Emperor treated the Warriors was probably not the way to handle them. He shouldve sent them on a suicide mission rather than purge them. At the very least, he wouldn't directly betray them. The Emperor quite often seems to treat everyone like lesser beings and but when it comes to his own flaws he ignores them. If he used more of his brain perhaps the heresy wouldn't happen
@@mikekuzmicz8408 I counter with what suicide mission could he have sent them on and I agree with the last statement
@@juliancalero8012 I dunno, send them for the crusade against the more... heretical planets. Or send 1 on to each planet.
By all that is holy, you must watch The Last Church and Helsreach.
He has watched helreach.
It switches to he when he takes his helmet off.
Thunder Warriors!
Certain soldiers can relate to the Thunder Warriors, mostly Vietnam Veterans
Love it 😮😮😮
You realllllly need to read some lore on the Emperor. He wasnt "just a man" despite what he said. He was one ofvTHE most powerful psykers ever, even the extremely psychic race the Aeldar respected the hell out him (not humans, just him) due to his power. Also he definitely did have some humanish flaws but not like you'd think. He literally could see into the future, at least as well as the chaos gods and both the gods and him forsaw many different futures, depending on peoples choices. Most of them, the chaos gods won, but in at least a handful the Emperor won. His psychic power was definitely strong enough in the right situations, like him bringing order to the galaxy(one of the futures the gods saw and the main reason they feared him). His power was so great while on terra he had to constantly keep himself in check because he could burn out normal humans brains by just being near. He also had an eidetic memory and intellect beyond anything we could know. Something that far above a normal person definitely has a hard time relating to normal people. But he could also read your entire life story from mind on a whim. And despite/because of all that, he still cared about humanity enough to direct them on one of the few paths we dont go extinct. There's waaay more to it than that, but ya. You should definitely really look into his lore.
The new horus heresy trailer is nasty I hope you get a chance to give it a peep
Yes the emperor was absolutely human with all the flaws in vanity and what not. However, do not mistake this, it is far from hubris for the emperor to contend with he warp entities some call gods. He is just as if not a little more clever, smart, and powerful as any one of those things. They are hardly gods anyways. It's established as thus in the lore. They are simply twisted warp thoughts pulled together like rocks to the core of a planet. There is nothing special about them let alone divine. It is in fact the hubris of the ancient warp entities to call theirselves of divine.
Of the mistakes that the emperor has made is definitely forgetting and even discarding the human element. But his act of contending with the ancient warp entities is nothing more than duty and nothing less and far from any sort of hubris on his part.
Also, about your point on why the emperor would have focused on human soldiers during the unification wars. No robots or AIs allowed. This was discussed with the dark age of technology. The emperor was aware of this. The emperor needed the world to be unified and you can't do that with a particularly potent bomb unless you wish to blow the planet to bits anyways.
IT'S BALDER!
Does anyone know the name of that song? 19:25
One of the reason why the servo skull have a quil and ink well. it come down to in world reason why people have a lack in technology for certain area's and a recline in technology and making a servo skull for it intended role. Sorta like how a servo skull can be made in to unit to scout or be armed with a gun . Also it could be a artist style as well sorta like how chaos marine's having spiky bit's with out needing to know the in world reason why they have them . One of reason why the Imperium limit it tech use is due to their decline in unrecoverable tech ( IE losing a STC to make some relic weapons) , human experience with how technology can harm/betray man in as per Men or Iron revolt , how Tech can be corrupted or hacked and experience with AI in the universe. The use of ink , quil and paper is one way that the imperium can control the flow of data and destroy if need be in a more physical form.
As for Thunder Warrior they were made for a purpose to fill as a disposable tool to be replaced.
Yes, the narrator calls the Thunder Warrior "it", because at that point in history, no one knew anymore what a Thunder Warrior was.
He was wearing antique power armor, and was way too big, way too fast, and way too strong to be an Astartes. Too cunning to be an Ogryn, and there was no way he was a Custodes or a Primarch, so they had no idea what they were dealing with.
Or mad jack Churchill who captured over a dozen enemies on his own🤣😂 or that one guy during ww2 who went on a mad shoot out when his mate got killed and simply went run abouts in a small village shooting any Nazi he came across whilst stealing a staff car
There's a reason the Custodes did the majority of the fighting to put the Thunder Warriors down.
Not a source of GOODNESS. A source of ORDER, THE ANATHEMA, to stand against the forces of The Primordial Annihilator: KAY'YHOSS.
tis a bit tragic indeed , also id say that the emperor was at some point something we would class as a human but i suspect that living for such a stupidly long time would ˝˝˝change˝˝˝ you
There actual a pretty lively video from Over_sarcastic production that talk about immortal in detail. The fact that the people who you know and love died over and over again. That the 400 year desendant of your best friend dies in your.hands...changes a person.
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42:38 so true.
Lorgar was right.
has he done the baldermort night lords video yet?
While yes in most tribes the word for the culture roughly translates as the people or human in the judeo Christian heritage the word for human tends to be universalized for example when medieval Europeans got back stories of the dog headed men of India the church held a debate of whether the dog heads ment they were human and thereby saved by christ or animals. Ultimately the church determined that having a dog head did not mean you weren't human and they should be given the gospel. Or in Judaism there is a tradition that when the Egyptians were cast into the sea the angels cheered and God rebuked them saying "my children are dieing and you celebrate"
Do the night lords by the same person
Can you react to Star Wars? The second battle of Geonosis to be precise? I'd like to see you break it down.
You should react to The Last Church. It's a story about the last church on Earth, after the Unification Wars and Right before the Great Crusade. The Emperor has a long conversation with the last priest about God and religion. Where both men speak upon how the others beliefs are flawed.
Yeah it’s long, but these dudes have multiple sets of lungs and other organs. You even stated it, then it’s not an issue.
Well he never wanted to be a god, that was Lorgars fault. Try last church if you want to know emperors opinion on religion.
Yes and no
I think that you might be getting confused with 40K where the emperor is considered and openly worshiped as a god vs the more theorcratic state of the 30k imperium where religion is heavily banned and even as Zealous as the astartes were even they wouldn’t consider the emperor as a god (well not openly but would have done so personally and was what caused the more arrogant nature that astartes tended to hold towards humans which is fair in any case and despite how xenophobic the imperium is they were much more willing to form diplomatic relationships with aliens and even tolerate other humans eg the mechanacus from mars. And so the imperiums hatred for aliens mostly stem from well aliens where 90% of first contacts usually end with violence and so the imperium wenl
We.are told in the dark age of technology that not only aliens were tolerated, but pacts and aliiance occured often.
Why use infantry in time of robotics? Because of war with men of iron and banned AI
You should check out if the emperor had a text to speech device by bruva alphabosa
Did you really ask the question "Is he an Orc?" and then followed it by a quote from the warrior "The war is over."? 😂
Can you please react to
What it takes to win a VC by Jeremy clarkson it is amazing
Can you react to Nightlords by Baldermort
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If you like the historical format, you need to try the channel "Occulus Imperia".
His vid "The Iron hands and the Keys of Hel" discusses the psychological trauma caused to the Iron Hands Astartes by the death of their Primarch and the lasting damage due to their inability to process grief.
Astartes are scary enough but consider:
1. Blood angels turning into crazed blood suckers.
2. Space wolves turning into Astartes sizes werewolves.
3. Now got prospect of Iron hands becoming unkillable Astartes Universal Soldiers.
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The fate of the Thunder Warriors always made me question what the Emperor had in mind to replace the Astartes. I don't think Primaris Marines were his endgame. What might have been a total replacement of Space Marines? And that includes the Primarchs.
I think while not conclusive, there is enough evidence to suggest that his endgame were for normal humans to take over once transhuman were not needed. Something closer to the DAoT but without all the mistakes was probably his vision. Primarchs were needed because his fellow perpetuals pretty much abandoned him. Transhuman in general were needed to better weather the storm of chaos and the horrors and shock of what the galaxy contained. Once chaos was defeated and the initial shock that there were some horrible xenos in the galaxy wore off, normal humanity, as we even see in 40k in its decrepit state compared to what the Emperor wanted, can manage.