Ken Griffey Jr.'s MOST INSANE catches! The Kid was one of THE BEST outfielders EVER

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 173

  • @j_r_3404
    @j_r_3404 Рік тому +49

    You know you're UNREAL when you're a first ballot HOF player w/ 600+ HRs, 10 gold gloves, almost 3k hits and people still refer to you as a "what if"... Simply the best I've ever seen.

    • @CognizantCheddar
      @CognizantCheddar 8 місяців тому +6

      For an outfielder, he had every tool at an elite level. The _complete_ package.

  • @robinrahmani4705
    @robinrahmani4705 2 роки тому +114

    As popular as he is, he is still underrated, and probably because of no World Series. He was truly one of the greatest players to have ever played outfield. Not only was his defense off the charts, but so was his at bats. Many of the greatest outfielders of all time could not have made some of the catches he made if their life depended on it. Simply didn’t have the abilities that Jr. did.

    • @westonweigand1228
      @westonweigand1228 Рік тому +2

      Amen

    • @millmr20
      @millmr20 Рік тому +9

      Yeah if his injuries hadn’t caught up with him he would’ve been in the running for Ruth’s record, but after I think his knee injury in Cincinnati he never really came all the way back. Time catches up to all of us.

    • @cmqguy
      @cmqguy Рік тому +5

      @@millmr20 not only that, but I believe he would have been the all time home run king instead of Bonds.

    • @xaviermccorriston1511
      @xaviermccorriston1511 Рік тому +3

      Such a great humble guy too. All around magnificent

    • @cmqguy
      @cmqguy Рік тому

      @@xaviermccorriston1511 yes he definitely was.

  • @joewilson4561
    @joewilson4561 Рік тому +29

    No body In history was better than Griff in his prime. It was an honor to watch him grow in Seattle

    • @laurie-u4q
      @laurie-u4q Рік тому +4

      Absolutely! I lived there from ‘87 to ‘10 and thoroughly enjoyed not only the greatest of the Mariners but also the Seattle Super Sonics. Really good memories of attending most of those games!

  • @Drexel-g1g
    @Drexel-g1g 9 місяців тому +14

    Don't give a fuck if he won a world series or not, one of the best baseball players ever, period.

  • @gordonbezanson4710
    @gordonbezanson4710 Рік тому +5

    Just never got on the right team. The best player ive seen in my 57 years.

  • @Csaustin86
    @Csaustin86 8 місяців тому +5

    One of a kind. My favorite player of all time. Had that humble flash. Smoothest swing, power, glove. Just all around the best player to ever play the game! #24 #thekid

  • @banhda99
    @banhda99 Рік тому +6

    GOAT. Grew up in Seattle watching Griffey. He was quite special, always a beautiful aura about him. He played his heart out for his fans and team first, always humbled and carried himself with such class. Stayed clean. Every single Griffey at bat was electrifying, regardless of the score.

    • @geoffedward4702
      @geoffedward4702 Місяць тому

      And I’d say your still understating how great he was. Never going to anyone else like him

  • @domxem5551
    @domxem5551 Рік тому +2

    KG was a super star. All around player. He would have been paid billions nowadays

  • @stevenwalker9013
    @stevenwalker9013 Рік тому +4

    Had 1 of the best careers ever. All the accolades while missing quite a bit due to injuries. I truly believe he would have hit 750plus HR and easily 3000 hits. Without missing the time right in his prime still, he would probably be regarded as the best player of the modern era. Him or bonds. While I still have him top 20 all time. Probably top 10, considering both sides of the ball

  • @matthewwillkens8240
    @matthewwillkens8240 6 місяців тому +2

    Griffey Jr was the best baseball player I have ever seen in my lifetime (I'm too young to have seen Willie Mays play). It's crazy how natural his talents were. Even in my 40's when I pick up a whiffle bat my hat goes backwards and channel my inner Jr. What a talent.

  • @JonnySublime
    @JonnySublime Рік тому +5

    Sweetest swing, sweetest defense, and the definition of sacrifice.

  • @benjamindover6685
    @benjamindover6685 Рік тому +5

    It was pure pleasure to watch Griffey Jr. playing baseball

  • @jhanturandall2519
    @jhanturandall2519 9 місяців тому +2

    Dave Neuhaus being our announcer only amplified jr. he made me love baseball when he was calling our games

  • @johncassani6780
    @johncassani6780 3 роки тому +17

    Very cool to see him on the field with his dad. He really left it all out on the field.

  • @paulvece3714
    @paulvece3714 2 роки тому +30

    This guy was a kamikaze pilot in the outfield. Thise were some superhuman catches, but I can't help but think what he could've done if he were able to stay health. My all time fave forever and always.

    • @jbeardsley323
      @jbeardsley323 Рік тому

      It's the reason he couldn't stay healthy, unfortunately. The consequences of being the double goat. Best hitter and fielder ever.

    • @hawkveinte
      @hawkveinte Рік тому +1

      800

  • @geoffreyfaltot1006
    @geoffreyfaltot1006 2 роки тому +22

    The second catch stealing the homerun was probably the best catch I've ever seen.
    Across the body. Up over the fence. Needed tools more than hand eye coordination. Speed and vertical. Put it all together. Literally NFL raw talent combined with baseball timing. Doesn't get much more athletic than that.

    • @easyenetwork2023
      @easyenetwork2023 2 роки тому +1

      Had he taken care of his body in Cincinnati, he could have probably been the home run king.

    • @BigMike_RTTV
      @BigMike_RTTV 2 роки тому +1

      @@easyenetwork2023 He was aging and didn’t use steroids.

    • @michaelcorbi7335
      @michaelcorbi7335 Рік тому +3

      I was at that game…..unfortunately I was 8 years old and was in the bathroom when he made the catch. My dad and younger brother saw it

    • @gskessingerable
      @gskessingerable 11 місяців тому

      ​@@michaelcorbi7335 Sorry you missed it.

  • @stellac.e2086
    @stellac.e2086 Рік тому +5

    KEN JR & BO JACKSON are my favorite outfielders of all time. both. if THEY could get to the ball it WOULD BE CAUGHT. both HAD great timing & climbed the wall to steal the home run!! Bo had a cannon arm also. 💪

  • @SouthsideSox007
    @SouthsideSox007 2 роки тому +7

    Man, if I could only go back in time and go to one of his games and see him play. Legend

    • @cashmonet1
      @cashmonet1 2 роки тому

      Lucky enough to see him play a lot during my childhood. He was like trout with max charisma until injuries took over

    • @nickcappelletti6753
      @nickcappelletti6753 2 роки тому +3

      Can’t tell you how thankful I am to have been a kid in Seattle in the 90’s. Grew up in the Kingdome with Griffey, Edgar, Randy and so many other great players . Some of my earliest baseball memories were watching Griffey play next to his dad.

  • @chiefgangmusic
    @chiefgangmusic Рік тому +5

    Away player getting an ovation at Fenway is a epic achievement in itself.
    Playing next to your dad in the show and making one of the best catches he’s ever seen is beyond epic!!!!! That’s bordering God Level 🧖🏼‍♂️🙏🏻✝️🕉️🔯🕎☪️✡️☦️☯️☮️🛐

  • @Jason-ws3cd
    @Jason-ws3cd Рік тому +1

    My guy, I'm 46 and this was the only player in my eyes, I loved Kenny's swing, and his outfield play is what inspired me to play center field. Played a long time and recently retired from travel nsa softball, where the outfield is king. I miss ya Kenny and this grown man feels like a kid again when I watch your highlights.

  • @andrewokamoto
    @andrewokamoto 3 роки тому +11

    The timing is impeccable

  • @StephenLampkin
    @StephenLampkin 9 місяців тому +1

    Was fortunate to see him play hundreds of games. It was the little things, his jumps on the ball and perfect routes were what made him so good. The ball was hit and he was already at full speed by the time you could look at him.

  • @josecarranza7555
    @josecarranza7555 3 роки тому +17

    To this day I still play his 1998 Nintendo 64 video game.
    “Call me, call me Junior!”

    • @AD-mk2ut
      @AD-mk2ut 2 роки тому +1

      I’ll be ordering it again very soon lol

    • @therealbs2000
      @therealbs2000 Рік тому +1

      Are you trading raul ibanez

    • @josecarranza7555
      @josecarranza7555 Рік тому

      @@therealbs2000 Raul Ibanez doesn’t have the power, batting, speed like he did in his prime. But he does hit some homeruns once in a while.
      I did a lot of trades for the Seattle team.
      One season I made trades to get Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, on the Mariners with Griffey.

    • @therealbs2000
      @therealbs2000 Рік тому

      @@josecarranza7555 ibanez is the most important player in the game. He helps build dynasties

    • @josecarranza7555
      @josecarranza7555 Рік тому

      @@therealbs2000 Lol

  • @laurie-u4q
    @laurie-u4q Рік тому +1

    Watched his commercial during the first World Series game yesterday 10/27/23 and reminded me of when I lived in WA and absolutely loved the Mariners. Griffey Sr & Jr, Edgar Martinez, Ichiro, Buhner, The Sheriff (closer), Randy Johnson… and many more! I’m now in AZ hoping Diamondbacks kick ass!

  • @Hughmanity80
    @Hughmanity80 Рік тому +6

    Ken Griffey Jr will always be America's cleanest neatest most exciting beautiful player to ever hold a bat and glove in the MLB..
    AWESOME WORK!

  • @biglurp7040
    @biglurp7040 2 роки тому +4

    Completely agree!! Been my favorite player sense 1992

  • @charliepalmer3244
    @charliepalmer3244 Рік тому +1

    I grew up in the greater Seattle area during his time, what a gift. He was cheered everywhere he went besides Yankee Stadium. The cheers you hear from the 2nd highlight in Detroit from '97 were very common.

  • @michaelbronco1023
    @michaelbronco1023 Рік тому +2

    When I was a kid, my friend's parents got us Yankees Mariners tickets at Yankee stadium. My buddies and I were Yankee fans, our buddy Jay was a Mariners fan because of Jr, we were all excited to see Jr. A week before the game, Jr broke his wrist making that great catch at the 4 minute mark in this video. Needless to say we were totally bummed. At least we got to see Randy Johnson pitch.

  • @cheebawookie
    @cheebawookie 3 роки тому +16

    The Greatest!

    • @Max-wd6og
      @Max-wd6og 2 роки тому +1

      False

    • @dwightlove3704
      @dwightlove3704 5 місяців тому

      I wished that Seattle was in The National League so all the damage he did would have mattered.

  • @SplitPersonality_21
    @SplitPersonality_21 22 дні тому

    That second one the hang time after leaping is incredible and the timing and the 3rd catch absolutely nasty 💎👑

  • @jasonnokes7426
    @jasonnokes7426 3 роки тому +6

    Was a little surprised to not see his broken wrist catch in 95 on here. Especially since y'all used it as the thumbnail lol

  • @JavierAvila-l2m
    @JavierAvila-l2m 3 місяці тому

    The one where he timed it looked at the ball then the wall, A work of art impeccable!

  • @GilesMcRiker
    @GilesMcRiker 2 місяці тому

    1:45 "junior is receiving a standing ovation here!"
    * Camera pans to crowd full of sitting fans. *

  • @chanman4rings
    @chanman4rings Рік тому

    That Tiger stadium catch was amazing.
    He played with a smile on his face

  • @CustomizedUsername
    @CustomizedUsername 9 місяців тому +1

    Best player I’ve ever seen in person

  • @pedroguevara4256
    @pedroguevara4256 Рік тому +1

    In my opinion the best baseball player.

  • @413slim
    @413slim Рік тому

    He was what they said he was. Basically for those that don't remember or were not born during that period Griffey was a phenom. Like Tiger before Tiger or the way Lebron was viewed. He delivered. At his peak the most popular and best player in mlb.

  • @ambersanders7769
    @ambersanders7769 Рік тому

    Dude was an absolute beast at the plate and a magician in the outfield. Imagine if he hadnt gotten hurt as much as he did in Cincinatti. Probably would have close to if kot kore than 800 HRs and even more gold gloves. Also he had probably rhe most fluid prettiest swing in the history of baseball. Absolute stud. 💯

  • @NayaWrap
    @NayaWrap 7 місяців тому

    He would dominate in any era especially today.

  • @Mbutler894
    @Mbutler894 7 місяців тому +1

    Those gray sleeves jerseys are sick they should still wear those

  • @johnne86sd
    @johnne86sd 9 місяців тому

    I still play his first SNES game. The best!

  • @Nuke1320
    @Nuke1320 9 місяців тому

    He’s insane

  • @HellolBuffalol
    @HellolBuffalol Рік тому

    Just learned a few moments ago that he is a 10x gold glover. Had no idea. Great career. One of the best in the recent era of baseball.

    • @JezuzIsLord
      @JezuzIsLord Рік тому

      Did you just find out about Griffey? Cus that's the only explanation... Lofton and him were the best outfielders of their era.

    • @joel8692
      @joel8692 10 місяців тому

      ​@@JezuzIsLord griffey and Andrew Jones were the best CF of that era and Jones is the best defensive CF ever and arguably the best defensive player perod

  • @BXBejita
    @BXBejita 7 місяців тому

    I love how he embarrassed the Yankees at every opportunity. Stole #300 from Barfield, he’s standing in disbelief sitting on 299 😂 and hitting 5 home runs in the 1995 ALDS

  • @ericireland4742
    @ericireland4742 Рік тому

    Griffey best ever.. the kid is a legend… or should I say THE LEGEND

  • @marcspardello1254
    @marcspardello1254 2 роки тому +2

    One thing that is over looked is how he robs all-big time names...Juan Gone, Bell, Swade Froggs ... in other clips it's the same thing almost like he is envisioning these robberies moments before they happen

  • @steveschmenk2813
    @steveschmenk2813 Місяць тому

    Dude got a standing ovation at the other teams home field 😂

  • @j_r_3404
    @j_r_3404 9 місяців тому

    This video only having 72,000 views is a national tragedy.

  • @bradcarter5403
    @bradcarter5403 Рік тому

    He didn’t invent to robbed home run, but he perfected it and made it beautiful.

  • @jeffdaily9196
    @jeffdaily9196 2 роки тому +1

    Those are all opposition tv/radio announcers talking with respect and awe.

    • @jeffdaily9196
      @jeffdaily9196 2 роки тому +1

      Ok, half of the announcers

    • @easyenetwork2023
      @easyenetwork2023 2 роки тому

      They knew how good he was. You always respect the best player if he is not an asshole.

  • @gskessingerable
    @gskessingerable 11 місяців тому

    Amazing baseball player.

  • @SPTO
    @SPTO 3 роки тому +4

    One of the greatest outfielders ever for sure. If he took better care of himself who knows what his numbers would've been and how much longer he would've been an elite player in the field.

    • @lachlaneberle2889
      @lachlaneberle2889 2 роки тому +4

      If he didn’t get injured he probably would have been all time HR leader with 3000 hits and like 15 gold gloves prolly

    • @millhousemillard2140
      @millhousemillard2140 2 роки тому +9

      He "took care of himself" lol he got hurt and missed time. That's what happens in a 162 game season when you avoid PEDs dummy

    • @lachlaneberle2889
      @lachlaneberle2889 2 роки тому

      @@millhousemillard2140 exactly

    • @Max-wd6og
      @Max-wd6og 2 роки тому

      @@lachlaneberle2889 and if Bonds got pitched to he would have 1000, stfu with the “what ifs”

    • @terryduffield5860
      @terryduffield5860 2 роки тому

      That’s untrue he “didn’t take care of himself”. He beat shit out himself playing 200 miles an hour and at 36-37 his body broke down like any normal human not juiced on roids. The media and MLB fucked Griffey saying “he didn’t take care of himself” so Barry Bonds could justify gaining 25 pounds of round muscle and doubling his home runs from 37 into his 40s. Total horseshit

  • @DavidHernandez-ug9gb
    @DavidHernandez-ug9gb 2 роки тому +1

    GOAT

  • @seahawks1185
    @seahawks1185 3 місяці тому

    Griffey snatched any ball within distance of humanly getting to it.

  • @jbeardsley323
    @jbeardsley323 Рік тому +1

    The goat. I feel like Cody Bellinger was on the path to Griffey type stardom and then he messed with his swing and did stupid jump arm lock shakes. I miss Griffey. We need one of those phenoms for the sport again.

    • @philip7833
      @philip7833 7 місяців тому

      He definitely was. 2019 was an insane year. Looks like he’s bouncing back though.

  • @metaphoria3
    @metaphoria3 2 роки тому +3

    There’s a bunch more too #24

  • @kincamell
    @kincamell Рік тому

    Stellar.

  • @mickeybugh
    @mickeybugh 3 роки тому +6

    How do you not put on this reel, the catch from '95 when he broke his wrist?

    • @billny33
      @billny33 2 роки тому +2

      You know, I got so confused. The catch at 3:57 where he robs Ruben Sierra looked almost identical to the broken wrist catch from 95 except that he's wearing the older Mariner uniform minus the teal. And it looked like he wasn't really hurt on that one. But I really thought that was the broken wrist catch when watching this video because they are so similar to look at. I was like no way he has 2 catches like there where he kind of plants his spikes into the wall at 3 feet high and extends across the wall with his arm to make a ridiculous grab. But he does.

  • @randommaskguy
    @randommaskguy 11 місяців тому

    Smoothest player ever

  • @jamieeaton7839
    @jamieeaton7839 2 роки тому +3

    Haven't seen any one come close to the level of Griffey in his prime the best player I ever watched!

    • @FactGolf
      @FactGolf 2 роки тому

      Wait 4 Julio bruh

    • @McStrokeAvision
      @McStrokeAvision 2 роки тому +1

      Bonds

    • @jamieeaton7839
      @jamieeaton7839 2 роки тому +2

      @@McStrokeAvision Bonds was on steroids. I mean yeah if you don't care if the player is clean than Bond's but there's a reason he's not in the hall of fame.

    • @McStrokeAvision
      @McStrokeAvision 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamieeaton7839 Bonds, idgaf about what they think I think for me. Bonds is the greatest player I’ve had the privilege to see play Griffey is second.

    • @jamieeaton7839
      @jamieeaton7839 2 роки тому

      @@McStrokeAvision yeah who cares about the hall of fame lol
      Griffey Jr was in a league of his own and till about 1999 and than Bond's and Big Mac started to do the drugs if Griffey in his prime would have been using he would have hit like 80 home runs!
      It's cool if you like Bond's better dude but history don't lie.

  • @BirdGang6
    @BirdGang6 2 роки тому +2

    Greatest all around player to ever play baseball

    • @Max-wd6og
      @Max-wd6og 2 роки тому +2

      🤣
      It’s Barry Bonds or Willie Mays and it isn’t close.

    • @BirdGang6
      @BirdGang6 2 роки тому

      @@Max-wd6og definitely not Bonds, you don’t get to be a multiple time steroid cheat and call yourself the GOAT, and Willie couldn’t lace Griffey’s cleats, nice try though clown 🤡

  • @HankContra07
    @HankContra07 Рік тому

    Va a ser un lío igualarlo, no pasarle, igualarlo... 🙌

  • @JJ-xm5eg
    @JJ-xm5eg 6 місяців тому

    The Kid!!!!

  • @antagonisstic
    @antagonisstic Рік тому +1

    Leaves Seattle with a great head start in his career. Only to be slowed down completely.

  • @sammystate21
    @sammystate21 2 роки тому +3

    Best I ever saw

    • @Max-wd6og
      @Max-wd6og 2 роки тому +1

      Then you haven’t been watching baseball for long

  • @penguinboy561
    @penguinboy561 Рік тому

    The grounds crew must have gotten tired replacing those pads after a while when Griffey Jr was playing :-)
    The Mariners have had Ichiro, Johnson, and Hernandez, but there's only one Junior.

  • @davidw839
    @davidw839 7 місяців тому +1

    It’s unfortunate that Griffey’s body gave out on him. If it hadn’t, Griffey would have been the one to break Aaron’s record and would have done so without steroids. Even with his injuries he’s still #7 all time in home runs. He would have shattered the numbers of most players ahead of him had he stayed healthy. Keep in mind that he had only been in the Majors about 10 years when he hit his 400th home run. That was about 70 ahead of Bonds pace at the time. And he didn’t retire until 12 seasons later. Best defensive center fielder I’ve ever seen. He made plays look easier than any other outfielder who played the game. This video hardly scratches the surface of his amazing catches throughout the years.

    • @Nhamp2000
      @Nhamp2000 7 місяців тому

      Well put. I consider him to be the best player I ever watched, and you're dead right about the injuries. I know it's hard to feel bad for a guy who's in the HOF, but it didn't seem fair for his body to continually give out when all he wanted to do was play where his dad once did. There's still a feeling of what might have been. Side note: he gave me two of the greatest thrills I've ever had at a ballpark. I was in the old Tiger Stadium when he robbed Luis Gonzalez of a home run (it's on UA-cam). I was in Wrigley Field in '08. I went to the game as a lark just to see him, because I had never seen an active member of the 600 Home Run club. Sure enough, he hit one out of the stadium over the right field stands, but the best part is that I got pictures of the entire swing. I had just gotten into photography as a hobby. I felt like I wine the lottery.

  • @hq9344
    @hq9344 Рік тому

    Everyone of those catches he stole HRs from were off legit power hitters back in day too… MVP and MVP candidates in fact

  • @anthonydavis7250
    @anthonydavis7250 9 місяців тому

    Wow what an amazing player and so humble!

  • @Zach-ls1if
    @Zach-ls1if Рік тому

    I was at the Kingdome as a 12 year old the day he robbed Juan Gonzalez of that grand slam. I think he might have robbed two homers from Gonzalez that day. And I remember Junior hit a 3 run homer too.

  • @louiswilliams4657
    @louiswilliams4657 Рік тому

    One of the three reasons I wore 24 !

  • @brohanfromrohan5771
    @brohanfromrohan5771 7 місяців тому

    I see a lot of guys these days stand at the wall and jump up to make a grab. I've never seen anyone measure the ball and wall to climb up it the way Griffey did.

  • @viciousdiablo4198
    @viciousdiablo4198 2 роки тому +1

    Who was better in Center Andrew jones or ken Griffey jr

    • @westonweigand1228
      @westonweigand1228 Рік тому

      It's not even a debate.

    • @joel8692
      @joel8692 10 місяців тому

      Jones was the best defensive player ever not only CF

  • @chopperdeath
    @chopperdeath Рік тому

    This guy was a fucking stud.

  • @jomamackdaddy
    @jomamackdaddy 6 місяців тому

    Now show the Bonds outfield highlights. I'll summarize them since there aren't too many. Some nice diving catches and the arm strength of a high school girl.

  • @jameshudson169
    @jameshudson169 11 місяців тому

    the kid was the last .400 hitter too.

  • @ChappyandJamesSnackReviews
    @ChappyandJamesSnackReviews 8 місяців тому

    Should have shown his wrist break catch

  • @singingindark12
    @singingindark12 2 місяці тому

    So sad he never won the WS.. dont care about Bonds but this man deserved a lot more glories.. Everyone wouldve clapped til the end if he broke Hank Aaron's record.

  • @funoutdoortimes7498
    @funoutdoortimes7498 7 місяців тому

    Always used two hands to make the catch like a pro

  • @steveschmenk2813
    @steveschmenk2813 Місяць тому

    Dudes vertical has to be 40+ incches

  • @gupr3526
    @gupr3526 Рік тому

    G.o.a.t

  • @geoffedward4702
    @geoffedward4702 Місяць тому

    One of the best ??? Please tell me what player you would rather pay to see go after it like that in center field along with one of the best arms and swing like he did in the 3 hole with exceptional base running. Never ever going to see anyone else like him.

  • @tmillz120
    @tmillz120 Рік тому

    This fucking shit is crazy

  • @BAL_productions
    @BAL_productions 3 роки тому +7

    Griffey was insane!
    Wow I’m First!

  • @KHLB516
    @KHLB516 6 місяців тому

    Only one better in his time was Andruw Jones who was best I ever seen

  • @GeorgeYoung-uh5by
    @GeorgeYoung-uh5by Рік тому

    Was Babe Ruth or Ted Williams as good an ourielder as Jr' ? Not even close They were great hitters but no Jr. In the outfield. And Jr had over 600 homers And would have 700 if for not all those injures

  • @scottb2113
    @scottb2113 Місяць тому

    Ken Griffey Jr arguably could have all 10 ua-cam.com/video/jXZTw-GtQcY/v-deo.html

  • @jerrypete3799
    @jerrypete3799 2 роки тому +1

    On Griffey's first catch, side talker says, "he turned the wrong way." What a stupid thing to say !!

    • @ambersanders7769
      @ambersanders7769 Рік тому

      Not really the stupidest thing to say, he did get turned around and the fact that he was able to correct himself and still male the catch really emphasizes the greatness of the catch. Guess that's just my opinion tho.