Razer Wolverine V3 Pro Review - 1000Hz, Hall Effect Joysticks, Wireless
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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I reviewed Razer’s Wolverine V2 Chroma controller only a little over a month ago, and while I’m in no way vain enough to believe Razer made all the changes I asked for in that video to this, the Wolverine V3 Pro, because of me, they sure did make all the changes I asked for! This controller is nearly perfect - so let me show you around it so you can see what’s new, we’ll even put the new 1000 hertz polling rate mode to the test with my Open Source Latency Testing Tool (the new CS model no less!) and you can see if this bad boy is worth the cash. Let’s get into it!
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Razer has absolutely been watching reviews and making modifications based off of them for at least a year now. Great strategy imo.
They took new solutions from Chinease developers.
200$ is kinda crazy for a console that sells at a loss and charges 200$ for storage.
Not enough cos they forgot to add stick tension adjustment, 1000hz wireless mode, and the ability to assign keyboard keys to buttons and keep them assigned without having an app open.
But they also made a mistake witht theire v2 ps5 verison that was fixed on a earlier controller. They reintroduced a horrible deadzones on the stick. Theire where alot of negative revieuws of the earlier model that they fixed it. and then just because the development team was to lazy to update the software. the reintroduced the deadzone problems on the new wolverine v2.
And it took month for them to somewhat improve it again.
@@quintrapnell3605 xbox = pc, so this controller is mostly for pc players that may also have an xbox
I was a controller gamer for 20+ years and was frustrated by stick drift for most of that. So it's great to finally see controller players getting Hall Effect.
Plenty of controller models used it in the past. I've got two PS3 controllers with it. They have no drift or limp sticks even after 12 years of use.
@thebritishviking Sega dreamcast controller was the first to implement it, iirc.
YES the first thing i noticed is they moved the two menu buttons to where I can actually reach them comfortably. have NO IDEA how they thought putting those two buttons way up on the upper-sides was a good idea its like no one actually tested the controller. Oh wow they improved my favorite controller (v2 Chroma) in EVERY way it looks like. Wireless too!? yes i'm a wolverine simp but this thing looks great. Yes $200 is a lot but compare it to other $200 controllers. those are NOT hall effect usually, they are NOT wireless, and they often do not have these nicer buttons.
I have giant hands in width, but relatively short fingers. I struggle so much with the buttons on my Wolverine V2 Chroma.
I am interested in this new model.
Flydigi Apex would like a word with you at $179. The better buy is the V4 Pro which also has Hall Effect sticks, hall effect and mouse click triggers, and 1000hz polling rate at $79. The Razor is a bit overpriced right now
@@LegendaryDrumryou’re forgetting the extra two buttons on top which no other controller offers not to mention this is officially licensed for Xbox
@@LegendaryDrumragree
@LegendaryDrumr mouse click triggers suck, then you can't use it for any other types of games like racers etc. Trigger stops that you can adjust are better.
Been using the Raver V2 for about 11/2-2 years now, best controller i've ever owned, hands down. To see the V3 coming out, giving everyone's wants from over the past year or so, makes me shed a tear. Thats the new controller after mine gets stick drift. Wow, great vid!
This is the best controller ever made. But Im more interested in the wired version. Definitely a must buy.
The biggest reason for having the paddle buttons more towards the middle of a controller is to help minimize the amount of accidental pushes while playing a game.
Yeah don't like the placement on the new one. Love my V2.. v3 isn't an option for me
Paddles seems in good positions
OMG!!! This may be the one for me. I’ve been waiting for the Elite Series 3 but this wolverine seems to have everything I wanted from the the elite. I may have to “pull the trigger” on this one! Seems MUCH better than the Turtle Beach stealth!
It is much better
The Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra is absolute garbage, probably the cheapest feeling pro controller on the market.
Although, I probably won't be getting this Razer controller, mainly because of the polling rate only being good in wired mode.
try flydiji APEX 4 - way better than this overpriced piece of a failure
I love my elite series 2 controller - however it has a high failure rate with its bumpers and joysticks failing and its not worth it at that price with such a high failure rate.
@@ProstoTelo Is that the one you’re using?
I havent had a controller since the wolverine TE. Was furious when they took it away. With the movement of the paddles on the v3 makes the feel similar to the TE. My TE just broke since release. Im sold on this.
buying this for Balatro
After multiple elite controllers, forget the rubber grips and go with textured plastic. The rubber grips always give out and peel eventually so I think they were smart not putting them on there
The 100 USD wired one miight be too much of a good deal to pass on....
Absolutely, thats a crazy deal for what you get compared to the competitors like scuf, I use wired anyways - no brainer.
Double the price just for wireless ... Damn !
@@MyTwinFlame right whats the difference because wired is better
@@Rick-ds8pe until they do batteries i wont buy wireless its a scam
Gullikit kk3 is everything this controller is for less than half the price
I've used the v2 extensively for several years now (thousands of hours). I didn't even know this came out until I realized that one of the buttons in my current controller started to flake out on me. I'll give the v3 a try.
My Wolverine Ultimate is finally shitting the bed, bit of drift, rumble can cause random controller disconnect, and the corner of a trigger cracked off... she served me well!
I definitely feel the latency issues as an Xbox player... Microsoft needs to do better if they ever make another Xbox.
GameSir G7 SE. Wired, $40, hall effect, 2 programmable bumpers + all buttons reprogrammable, and bumper locks. Used mine for 2-3 years before moving to PC after gaming on Xbox for 20 years. Its incredible, if you absolutely must have wireless I guess this is cool but try it out gents.
There's a wired only version of the v3 too. It's much cheaper.
@@ralphengland8559 Just letting everyone know my experience and that there are other options. I cant speak highly enough about the GameSir stuff, but glad to see other companies are hopping on the trend. I just couldnt pass up letting people know about one for $40 that performs better than anything ive ever had before. I play claw so I never really cared about paddles though.
Doesn’t have trigger locks, false statements
@@nazarethproductions7095 meant bumper locks, but I edited the comment. The new Pro edition coming out is wireless and appears to have hair triggers
@@NHGAFWYUTB can’t wait for that announcement, you think by this year it will be released?
There's just a lot more alternatives in the market right now with literally the same tech implemented here at a much lower price, like I'm talking less than half the price of this Razer controller. Only reason I could think of to get this is if you're really in to that Razer aesthetic and willing to pay premium for it.
This controllers is more for the casual players on the market that don't want to buy some Chinese controller and some adapter to play in their console
@@Teilzeit02 They are all from China, so you can quit with that bigoted bs
Gamesir G7 SE👍👍👍
@@cjvvaliente
"Razer Inc. (stylized as R Λ Z Ξ R) is an American-Singaporean[4][5][6] multinational corporation and technology company that makes, develops and sells consumer electronics, financial services, and gaming hardware. The brand was founded in 1998, then refounded in 2005[7] by Min-Liang Tan and Robert "RazerGuy" Krakoff, although the business originated in 1999 in the US".
@@cjvvaliente Yeah no shit you dumbahh, the point is that razer ist reputable company that is accessible for anyone and for me to get a Flydigi controller in my country I need to go on AliExpress or other Chinese shops
The only thing this controller has that most competitors don't is the extra bumper buttons. Which is not worth the price point and there is no option to change the tension of the stick. Otherwise they definitely seem to be going in the right direction.
I've just ordered mines today. I currently have the Razer V2(not chroma) and looking to upgrade as I want 4 back paddles and wireless. Ive been looking at controllers for days researching, trying to decide between
Elite 2
KK Max3
Flydigi Apex 4/Vader 4 pro
Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra
I was about to order the Apex 4 this morning then held off and by chance I see a news article announcing the Razer V3 release this evening
It was fate 😁
Vader 4 pro will do you justice and it’s 80 dollars
Those are some interesting choices, but never ever make the mistake of getting the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra.
It's the cheapest "pro" controller I've ever seen, and it's absolutely not worth the inflated price.
From that list I'd recommend the Vader 4 Pro, but if you want more gimmicky features, you can get Apex 4.
The KK3 Max is a solid choice too, as it has the best paddles I've ever seen on a pro controller, but it's inferior to the Flydigi controllers in every other area.
I love how ALL these companies throw so much bullshit saying stuff like "this will make you a better gamer/you will have the competitive edge". And then the reviewers go ahead and suck at every game they test to debunk that shit.
Only PC cheats will turn gamers into gods overnight.
They need to make the rumble packs removable. Controller is way too heavy.
Or just ditch them in a pro controller!
So the controller has rumble?
Do a few push-ups
@@geekinasabI just don't like rumble myself sucks but yeah a controller being heavy is tragic lmfao
All preference bro some people like a heavier controller. I know I do
I bought the Razer Wolverine V2 Chroma about a year and a half ago. I had a bit of a hard time getting used to the Large Controller size at first. Now I just received the V3 pro and it is a lot smaller and I can tell I am going to have a hard time getting used to the new size all over again. But it is an awesome controller.
rubber covers are bad. Every rubber padded controller i've ever used the rubber grows from sweat and pops out and will never go back in. The non rubber pads sold this for me.
I just ordered this controller looks pretty darn nice.
Yess this is everything I was asking for too and been watching vids of you and other reviewers for months looking for the right controller to finally appear
This controller is in a class above the elite series 2. This is what we would have expected from an elite series 3.
I had the V2 tournament edition for awhile and I didn’t like the rear buttons at all. The V3 looks like the left t controller for me as they have made all the improvements I’d of liked. I’ll definitely consider the wired only tournament edition once it comes out. Great video!
it drives me absolutely BONKERS that there isn't a PS5 version of the V3 Wolverine. This controller is everything I want in a controller and I can't use it!
I loved the old paddle design and I have relatively small hands 🫤
Bro that’s the only reason I like the Wolverine ultimate welp guess I’ll be running that controller too the wheels fall off
I have the Razer Wolverine Tournament Edition (the first) and i loved it, i bought 2 after a year. I didn't liked the v2 and i didn't bought it but now i m waiting for v3 and I'm going to buy it for sure (but the wired edition, i don't care about wireless). Nice Review btw !
This controller brought me to your channel. I'll be watching more thanks to your top review(polling rates most interesting). You didn't mention the D-Pad but that's OK, NihongoGamer is the man for that job.
Really love my V2 pro, so if this ever gets a PlayStation version, I'll definitely buy it since I prefer PlayStation controllers over Xbox. This basically fixes every issue I have with the V2 pro and the original wolverine except for the d-pad
Congratulations on hitting 100K subs! You deserve it Andy!
I would like to know the latency of the XBOX Elite 2 controller added to your list. I personally like it. I got tired of buying cheap crap, and getting a poor experience, so now I only buy high end quality products. And yes, there is a higher initial cost, but over time I save money and frustration.
Have a great day, Sir! o7
Elite Series 2 and ‘high quality’ don’t belong in the same sentence, the amount of user reports of stick drift and bumper button failure make it clear it’s not high quality inside.
It's nice to see the progression of this. I've owned two of the original Wolverine Ultimate. But switched to Flydigi which makes a better product for WAY cheaper. I have the Apex but the Vader 4 Pro is only $80 and has all of these features.
Would the Vader 4 Pro work with a Series X, or are they PC/PlayStation only?
@@madMARTYNmarsh1981 unfortunately this is their biggest issue. PC and Switch only. It costs a lot of money to license for console play.
I've got the Apex and Vader Pro 4 - they're both the best controllers I've ever used. Mouse click triggers on Vader Pro 4 and the fastest polling rate among all controllers, very nice aesthetics and brilliant software customisation. Everyone should really take a look at FlyDigi controllers.
I use the Apex 4 on my series x via an adapter, and it works great . It's 1000hrtz polling out of the box.
@@tcrviper which adapter? Wingman adapter? Also, doesn't Xbox limited the polling rate for all controllers?
Can’t wait for vCuda to review this
cant wait for tournament edition, thats prop gonna be my go to
Word of warning, the Tournament Edition is NOT WIRELESS, you are literally buying the V2's biggest drawback with the new physical improvements of the V3
@@maestrochris12 Yeah not everyone is buying the V3 for xbox, wired is king on PC for the 1000hz polling rate. Also the V3 pro is severely overpriced for just wireless.
@@maestrochris12wireless is useless. Who would play wireless? I want as little input delay as possible
@@maestrochris12 people buy wired for lower latency my guy
@@clutchyclutch263 Yea, I can see I'm part of the very small minority here 😅 I actually have the V2 Chroma and I love it but I ALWAYS had that wish of it being capable wireless connectivity so I don't have to bother with the cable all the time. I found out about the V3 yesterday and I went coo-coo like it was Cocoa Puffs, although I do agree that by comparison to the wired version it *is* massively overpriced just for the wireless capability. I'd be more accepting if it was 130 and maybe even 150 but 200? Dang
If you are playing on PC only- Flydigi Vader 4Pro, Flydigi Apex 4, Machenike G5PRO V2 and G6PRO Nearlink will be much better solution in category: pice/quality. For Xbox need to buy a "special" dongle.
I would’ve agreed before but the wired is £99 lowkey think this could rival these controllers now. Vader 4 pro may out do it with the proprietary Hall effects they use but tbh for like £40 extra to have warranty and a higher quality build its 100% worth it imo
@@tt._.7857 How a wired model can be equal to wireless models?
Anyway each person can chose what he likes. In my opinion, Wolverine 3Pro is overpriced. I had i few razer controllers and sold them.
@@Psychotoxic86Flydigi has an awful back button design and their input delay is awful.
@@tt._.7857 lol Vader 4 pro is 1000hz wireless what input delay are you talking about
@@Psychotoxic86 shit yeah true, i always forget people use wireless lol
An impressive product that I'd totally snag on sale below $150. Fantastic review!
I will NEVER buy another one of their controllers, I gave them so many chances but the biggest problem is that their paddle switches fail (I had 4 controllers of 2 different generations) and the warranty process is a pain and you have to pay postage - and I live in Canada so it's both expensive and takes a long time. It's all annoying because they just send a new controller out for that fix anyway, and for the price, I'd expect more than a couple months of uptime
Can you test the xbox series wireless controller both wireless and plugged in using your latency tester?
This should be the perfect device for gaming handhelds like the ally, plenty of buttons for easy shortcuts
Honestly in my experience the Tournament Wolverine is way more durable than the Chroma V2 (have had 3 tournaments and 2 Chroma v2). Just feels like the quality has went down with the newer releases.
The V3 Pro is almost 3 times more expensive than the disappointing V2. I ended up going for the Vader 4 Pro which feels amazing but can't speak on its durability.
It's nice to see a larger company adapt hall effect thumbsticks though and hope they go for a more affordable price point as there's similar options at half the price.
I remember people complaining the grips on V2 made it feel gigantic so I understand removing half of it but definitely makes it look like a cheap shortcut
There's no affiliate link btw..
its on Amazon though for 200$ I just looked.
@@quintrapnell3605yeah the wired one is definitely a better deal considering that it has all the features of the normal one except a caring case and c'mon who needs that
to ANYBODY watching this… i DO NOT recommend buying ANY of these knock off controllers with these paddles on them !!! i would recommend the Xbox Series 2 Elite controller, or a Scuf ONLY! the knock offs act very weird with your xbox. if you use a wired headset with these types of controllers there will always be some sort of white noise either you, or friends you’re talking to will annoyingly hear and notice, and when you have your controller plugged in to charge while you’re playing these noises tend to get even louder! also the knock offs have fixed paddles usually, so you can not remove them, or change the location of them, and none of the knock offs have accessories for them so if you want to replace a stick or a paddle your shxt out of luck! the Xbox elite controllers, and Scuf controllers have TONS of accessories if needed, and you can take the paddles off and switch placement of them, adjust your stick tension, and the entire sticks in general. trust me, you’re going to want to stick with TRUSTED and RELIABLE companies, these are expensive controllers so don’t make an uninformed purchase. you’re welcome in advance 😇
bro u stupid? Razer is under Microsoft, one of the BIGGEST companies in the world. lmao
Not sure if this can beat my flydij apex 4 controller or even the Xbox elite pro 2
I got the v2 earlier this year. The only issues I have is the back placement other than the wired. But it plays well facts great, having bigger hands makes those 2 extra bumpers op. Makes never removing thumb from stick a real thing
How is the tension in the joysticks?the last controller had nearly no tension whatsoever. Made it horrible for fps. Nobody ever talks about the actual tension of the joysticks.
Yeah this is huge for me as well.
Flydigi Vador Pro 4 is the perfect controller.
I’m still holding onto my v1 cause I just really find the mic mute button very useful. Plus, no issues after all these years.
Mild complaint but I wish the shape of the trigger didn’t have such an aggressive hook at the end. Sort of makes it uncomfortable to manipulate
I got the nacon revolution pro 5 for my ps5 and happy with it. Great battery life. The only negative I can say about it is the 2 back buttons that are placed at the bottom of the part where you hold the controller. I don’t use back buttons much so I don’t need those 2 any way so it’s not a big deal to me
Just got the flydigi vader 4 🔥 absolutely love it
Elite 2 is this the better deal imo. Over 2 years no problems
Number one reason I liked the older versions was the placement of those back paddles. Easy enough to get to without accidentally pressing them. Hate the ones on the grips.
Yeah man! Same here! I hope these new ones can work as well but doesn't look as good as the previous ones being out of the way
@@kadedone strange, 90% of people like the buttons on the grops more then the buttons that are more out of the way.
@@caleasthetic yeah I don't get it. Putting buttons where you physically need to hold on to the controller means you consciously have to make an effort not to press them depending on how you hold the controller. I really hope these don't hamper how you need to hold the controller. If this helps, imagine having buttons under your palms on a controller. They would be easy to reach but you couldn't hold on too tightly or would need to adjust your grip not to actuate them. That's annoying. There is always a middle ground, so I want to try this one and see if it works.
@@kadedone I do get your point of vieuw actually. It is very logical. But theire are controllers that have just enough resistance on the back buttons, that you dont activly need to focus on not pressing them.
The steamdeck has buttons that are placed at such an angle that i dont accidentally press them. and the dualsense edge has the btttons just out of the way that i dont press them when i dont want to/
@@caleasthetic Yeah man so that's what I'm hoping for here. I'm just going off of how they look so far and since the buttons are now on the grip I see potential for issues. But I hope they end up like the controllers you mentioned that are able to resist accidental button presses. You may have better hand discipline than me though because I may tense my grip in certain situations as a reflex so if my finger is resting on a button or a paddle from the elite controllers I'll probably actuate it. I personally think the better solution is to put them in an easy to reach spot near the grip, but maybe not right under where your hand would naturally hold. I loved my v2 chroma so I hope this one works well despite how it looks to me.
I loved the position of the paddles on the V2 because I hate my fingers resting on the paddles when I don't want to press them. I get intense and sweaty in FPS games and like to grip my controller firmly don't like the paddles underneath my fingers at all time. I thought the centred paddles on the V2 were genius. This V3 is a downgrade and a no from me.
vader 4 pro 65 gbp on ali express. 4 back buttons, 1000hz hall effect sticks, mouse click short pull triggers & mouse click abxy buttons, adjustable stick tension. the days of being scammed out of 200+ quid by controller companies are over boys & girls.
They are catching up, Chinese controllers offer lots of those features for a fraction and long time ago
They are 5 years behind.
They are all from China
I got the v2 a couple of months ago, but the features on the tournament edition with the price is definitely worth it compared to most other controllers I’ve seen. I’ll have to get it when mine starts to get stick drift.
vCuda tested wireless controllers & no manufacturers could actually reach 1ms delay, even when they have 1000hz polling rate, with 2.4Ghz receivers. I might eat my words once Razer releases an update, but I'm just saying these response times are par for the course
The 360 wired controller is actually almost 2 decades old. It released at the end of 2005.
As a PC owner I wish there was a controller that combined all the razor features with Nintendo’s gyro & Sonys haptic/touch pad. It would be the perfect all rounder for everything from emulation to sweaty fps. Sucks that I have to switch from 3 controllers depending on what I’m playing 🤧
@TechteamGB Your killing me smalls, the old back paddle configuration was my favorite controller over the years, an now there isn't an alternative on the market. I wanted hall effect sticks on this controller too. I actually dropped the Gamsir controllers to come back to the wolverine, specifically for the paddle configuration also the the M2 button is used as a mouse click trigger in competitive shooters, If the M2 now feels like the bumpers this controller is dead to me.
Dear Razor, all I want is a copy of the Wolverine V1 at 1000hz , with hall effect sticks and 100% mouse click buttons including the paddles!
Then you would have the perfect tournament controller.
Sincerely the owner of the Razer; Sabertooth, Wolverine V1 & Wolverine V2
Flydigi Apex & Vader 4’s run 1000hz wirelessly. Razer still lacking in that dept. Although the flydigi controllers don’t work on Xbox and PlayStation, just PC and Switch.
That’s my main complaint with flydigi! Why not make the apex and Vader for console??? Even if I have to switch to a 250hz Xbox mode
@@fourtyxx7306Because it's not up to them.
Microsoft are the ones who decide which 3rd party companies can make an official wireless controller for Xbox.
Except they actually don’t. Watch VCudas latest video on the Vader 4
@@brendanphillips8448 Umm, ok. I just tested my Vader 4 with Gamepadla wirelessly and got 950hz polling.
@@brendanphillips8448 Umm, ok. Sure. I just tested my Vader 4 with Gamepadla and got 950hz wirelessly. I didn't have to wear a dumb jacket to do it either, haha
All i have to say is...FlyDigi Apex 4 and Vader Pro 4. Cheaper and has everything and more in these controllers.
Not if you’re on Xbox
@@riotmike85With a dongle, it literally is better.
@@StardustLegacyFighter
Didn't xbox talk about banning unlicensed products?
I don't believe they would license adapters that allow unlicensed products work.
Still using my Wolverine Ultimate from like 5 years ago, still no drift and better build quality than these new controllers. If my controller ever drifts I'll pick up one of these new ones simply because Ive come accustomed to the additional bumper buttons, they're a game changer.
It's not better than the new ones, I had a wolverine ultimate and have recently bought a wolverine v2 chroma, everything including build quality to features are much much better in v2. The only thing that is missing is the headphone sound control which I never used because I'm playing on a pc.
Do the analog sticks on this controller have higher tension than the stock Xbox analog sticks, or are they designed to be just as ‘loose’ as the standard Xbox sticks?
This controller looks actually incredible all apart from one factor that is stopping me from buying it and that's stick drift. Yes they are hall effect but I've read a bunch of people who are setting their deadzone to 0 and getting a stupid amount of drift. Some drift is acceptable it's going to happen but it lookS like it needs a recalibration update for the software. If they fix that then imo this rolla might just be one of the best for Xbox
This definitely peaks my interest as I have been waiting for a wireless Xbox controller with rear paddles/buttons and hall effect sensors. Last year's Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra failed on me within days so it was returned immediately. This might be worth checking out especially because Microsoft has yet to even hint at a Elite Series 3 controller.
I’ve been using the Wolverine Ultimate religiously for the last 2 years: those extra bumper buttons are so keen
Glad this popped up. I use a plain xbox series controller to play division 2 on my phone. I'd love to have a Rz V3 Pro.
A bit rich for my blood, I just got two wireless hall effect controllers for the price of just the wired one.
I don't understand how the tournament one is so much more cheaper. Makes me feel like I am missing out on important features... But I'm not. Always play wired, don't care about a carrying case and rgb is irrelevant. Are those all the features?
1000hz and hall effect sticks better paddles
@@Ruzien the tournament one also has hall effect sticks and better paddles, i have no clue if its 1000hz tho but it probably is
Wireless, RGB, carrying case is the only difference
@@terrorclawfulV3 Pro (Bluetooth/Xbox/PC) - avg. 11.4 ms. (Wired/Xbox/PC) - avg. 5.6ms. (Bluetooth/PC 1000hz tournament mode) - avg. 4.5ms. V3 Tournament wired controller is the on preorder for $99.99 with the only differences from the V3 Pro are no chroma lighting, no travel case, and no wireless. That being said it will be avg of 5.6 ms since V3 Pro has been tested for wired.
It has everything except wireless and a carrying case.
with the rise of handheld computers. these controlelrs need to star offering touchpad and keypad options even if its a upgrade
Honestly, the vitrix bfg pro controller has been by go to. I have replaced my elite series 2 three times now! The only issue I have are the placement of the buttons in the 6 button mode, software doesn't play well with steam and accidentally hitting the trigger sensitivity buttons at the back.
I have one called Gamsir with hall effect sticks. Not as kitted out as the Razer but I think it's a great controller for the price.
The elite is a rip off above 80 dollars without the hall effect though, so 200 for hall effect on an Xbox controller is a steal considering the new bright colored lines which are all any local retailers stock are drifting in 3 to 6 months and there aren't any other wireless hall effect controllers available.
Looks like this will be my next controller. I don’t mind paying a premium for a controller that should last me a long time
BTW to avoid misinformation Hall effect joysticks can stil develop drift, they are just WAY LESS likely to do so and although eventually will do, you will be LONG dead before that
I wish the extra “M” buttons had inherent functions like the Elite 2. That’s why I can get past the Elite 2 lol
I have been waiting for a Hall Effect controller that can wirelessly connect to my series X. After having to buy 3 Elite controllers because of stick drift. I am on board.
Soft touch and rubber grips are such a waste of time imo I'm glad to see they've ditched like the original
Why cant there be a no compromise best controller out there? Xbox styles dont fit my hand well (short index fingers - long middle fingers. Makes finding fitting gloves (and controllers) impossible. If there was an update to the PS pro controller, which i currently own, that has caught up to the market features. Better (rubberized and metal) material, hall effects, better durability, better buttons, better pull rate, better PC interface software (i.e. not steam), all mechanical components, truly feature complete pro controller in the PS format. Id be in heaven. Hell, id pay 3-400 dollars for that proudly, it would be the last controller i ever owned. Dunno, might have to start a company to get it.
Sony would never ever do that, just look at the new PS5 Pro, lol.
They don't give a fuck about making necessary improvements, they just care making money of stupid Sony fanboys.
Beware about those polling rates on mice because lots of games adds negative acceleration if the polling rate is high... Just saying.
You can't use the extra buttons for keyboard keys? What a bummer 😢
Probably gonna grab a Vader 4 pro.
Wolverine has my absolute favorite button layout(even the back buttons, although the new design looks nice)- I held out hope that newest version would let you program keyboard keys, what a downer. I got the Vader 4 a few days ago! And I’m loving it
@@tdubbleu76ill have to look into this vader...
Flydigi back buttons are awful, can’t even use 4 fingers.
@@mitchellgarcia4061 Why is that an issue?
Yes, you can. In wolverine V2 for example I have one of the extra buttons assign to F5 for quick saving in games.
It looks great and I don't mind dropping 200 quid on a controller, but, as always, these things are only as good as their weakest component, cos once one button, stick, or trigger starts acting up, it makes the entire controller useless. For example, I've had several Elite Series 2s where one of the shoulder buttons starts to intermittently not register a press, or acts like I've pressed it twice when I've only pressed it once. I'm at the point where I have so little faith in these products that I'm not willing to take a punt on one until I hear some long-term reports from people who've used them regularly.
honestly i got a really good controler with halefex controler that was like 50 dollars with 2 back buttons and pretty loaded and feels good i am surprised like it works really good ngl was like a game sir or something like that
I just want razer to make a play station wolverine where both of the joysticks are at the bottom like Sony’s controllers
been using the Raiju ultimate for around ..five years now? pretty happy, sticks are still within 10% deadzone. definitely got hall effect and ps5 haptic triggers on my wishlist for a next controller.
That is just not as ergonomic. Everyone knows that the Xbox layout is far more comfortable
@@RandolphNwaiwunot really the shape is just more comfy i have an extremerate decade kit on my ps4 controller and the shape alone makes the symmetrical sticks feel way more natural, its pretty much shaped like a xbox controller
As a PlayStation gaming, I fucking hate the location of those sticks
@@RandolphNwaiwu Not for me. I use claw grip though
why isn't they're V3 controller offered for PS5 users? seems a little one sided (or shortsighted by their product team) to not have parity on the PS side of the market compared to xbox.
It would be perfect if you could swap the Dpad and left joysitck. I am incapable of playing on any other layout than a ps5 controller layout
Feels very solid specially knowing that they fixed the awful joystick deadzone issue that the wolverine v2 had
I will 100% not buy it because it’s not worth the price but I still hope these joysticks feel as good as the original basic xbox controllers
i was a huge fan of the Razer Raiju. was the best ive used. i will look to get this one. the two i currently have both also really good. FLYDIGI Vader 4 Pro and the PDP Victrix Pro BFG love these ones.
As someone who owns the V2 for my PlayStation and the elite series 2, this controller is looking like a big w
My sticks just got drift on my ps5 controller, do these controllers actually fix stick drift or are you just paying 140$ extra for extra buttons?
@@beastness501 from the 6 months I’ve had my Wolverine v2, it’s been pretty solid, and it’s not like I don’t use and abuse it either, but your mileage may vary. If you really don’t want to worry about the drift I’d suggest getting something like the Nacon revolution 5 pro, that one has Hall effect sensors
i have the v1 without the chat pad on it. And it still works great. And i also have the V2 rgb. might get the v3, but i also own a scuf envision pc controller, so prolly not
Your chart at 8:15 is showing Blender 3D render benchmark as its title whereas you’re talking about gamepad input latency.
Also, extremely high gamepad polling rates are an irrelevant marketing gimmick for most gamers who are unlikely to be playing twitch shooters competitively where even a few milliseconds matter between surviving and dying, so there’s no need to exaggerate and call some results “unacceptable”. They are totally fine for single player and casual multiplayer games, which is what most gamers play.
I'll stay with the Gamesir G7 SE. Just perfection.
i use that too but im def buying the wired ver when it drops
@@Diggsiii Well, that Gamesir G7 SE is indeed wired. Maybe did you mean wireless? I think there're no wireless version of Gamesir controllers.
There are, but not ones compatible with the Xbox.
The Flydigi Vader 4 pro has all the same features and more for just a quarter of the price.
Can you use that controller on an Xbox console?
@@Dippedinblackink It's not officially supported on Xbox unfortunately. I've read some people saying they got it to work with an adapter though.
@@SaffronHorizon dang that's a bummer. I have an Elite 2 controller for my Xbox. Do you think this Razer controller is worth the change? My concern is the 4 buttons on the back as paddles not being able to be swapped out. I only play with 2 and worry the paddles would be in the way while gaming.
@@Dippedinblackink I wish I could help but I haven't used either of those controllers.
@@Dippedinblackinkthe Elite 2 is superb, comfortable and responsive, so if you’re happy with it, there’s no need to replace it.
FINALLY THEY FIXED THE PADDLES!
Good review, but I'm disappointed you didn't discuss the battery at all. How much game time would a fully charged battery get you? Is the battery replaceable? Etc.
Around 20 hours, but it will vary depending on the brightness of the RGB and vibration strength.
Yeah nice, but that D-"pad" is a deal breaker. I'll just stick with 8bitdo.
is theire going to be a ps5 version with all of these new changes? because the xbox version lacks a gyroscope.