Taurus PT92 VS. Beretta 92FS...Which one should YOU choose?
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Today we do a basic, tabletop comparison of the Taurus PT92 and the Beretta 92FS. While there are Beretta models that have more in common with the PT92 than the 92FS I will explain in the video why I choose these two for this comparison. Either way, you really can't go wrong with both pistols but I have a preference.
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Oops, meant to say cut away slide, not cut away barrel as well as soldiers not liking the slide mounted safety decocker, not frame-mounted.
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That's okay bud! We knew what you meant. I'm fluent in what someone means and not what they actually said... after all, I'm married! Hee hee! LMBO! 😂 Just kidding, any married ladies-I totally appreciate, love and respect my wife and all ladies (was raised primarily by women). Heck, all I have to do is grunt and my sweet wife knows what I'm saying. Lol! It's amazing how we as spouses can get to know each other so well after the years that we both think alike. That's connection and love.
Reverend Tim Fey Well said, sir!
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Thank you very much Travis! I appreciate that. I try to keep a sense of humor even during dark times. lol! 😀 Take care buddy and God bless!
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Reverend Tim Fey It is always awesome hearing from you! I don't try to make the videos funny yet I always seem to think up a bit of humor to add! You get well, Rev!
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My 1st gun was a Taurus PT92 over 30 years ago, and I still have it.
After owning both a PT99 and a 92fs, this is what I've experienced...
Taurus owner- It's just as good, made on Beretta equipment, safety/decocker is better placed, blah blah, while secretly wishing it was a Beretta and pretending not to notice people's faces when you explain it's not a Beretta, but just as good.
Beretta owner- Trying to explain to people how much superior your gun is to the Taurus to justify the cost, but still being smug because it says Beretta on the slide. All the while wishing it had a frame mounted decocker/safety.
End result- Both guns run exactly the same.
Infinite Defiance Yeah, more or less.
Infinite Defiance I say we split the difference and buy an Italian police surplus 92S from Classic Firearms for $300, wish we had a frame mounted safety, smile cuz it's a real Beretta and spend the rest of our time thinking of ways around that pesky Euro-style heel mag release!
@David Kuykendall dude...while you may be correct and all that your attitude all around sucks.
@Elipsis ..
I own a Taurus P-92, and have owned the Barretta 92 FS. It is the same gun save for the slide/frame safety format...Taurus wins.
I've had my Taurus PT-92 AFS-D (chrome) for over 2 years now and all I can say is that it is the most all-around solid handgun I own. I absolutely love it. Zero failures and that reset is nice and smooth. It's my edc and I don't plan on changing that anytime soon. Having shot the 92FS before it, I was amazed at what a gun you got for the price with the PT-92. Good review and I agree with everything you stated. My brother is retired military and he carried a 92FS as his service sidearm throughout his career and made the remark that he wished they had the decocker on the frame like the Taurus. He went out and bought one for himself the next day. I don't recommend many Taurus models at all, but this one is a solid 10/10.
I have the exact same gun, and I can’t say enough good things about it. I love it and will never get ride of it.
you still stand by this for edc? looking for a first edc and these extremely compact barrels and grips that I've tried at the range are wayyy too uncomfortable and snappy.
I've had my ss pt 92 since nineties. Love it. No complaints.
Abram Vemable mine has been nothing but reliable
I agreed with you Guys Taurus pt92 is a Solid Rock.
call me crazy but i like the taurus pt92 better
ParasidicGeneration Me too, bro!
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Hi PG! 😀 Hope you are doing well. I've seen you on some similar channels that I also visit and just wanted to say hello. I just discovered your channel and saw you've got the same Bersa. How's that running for you? Our (wife's) Bersa Thunder has these failure to feed on the last round of the magazine every time. It's gotten a little better, but it's new and really stiff trying to rack that slide and get the rounds into the magazine. Probably just needs some more breaking in. Just thought it was cool that we had the same gun. Take care of yourself and God bless. 👍
The Rev.
Reverend Tim Fey hey thanks bud my bersa is running flawless
ParasidicGeneration
Right on! Great to hear. 😀 Hopefully, I'll be talking with you sometime soon over on your channel. Until, take it easy and best wishes.
Better than the M9 or the 92fs a1? The m9 and a1 also have the rail, a flared mag well. The pt92 copied the m9 and almost identically. The only thing I like better on the pt92 is the safety and it's location. Even with that, I would take the beretta all day hands down. It's the original!
The PT92 is manufactured in a Beretta 92 factory...
Paul O'Neal yup!
Not True, Beretta DOSE NOT own it they USED TO BEFORE the PT92 was made there by Taurus "which is NOT Beretta".
@David Kuykendall There was a Beretta model that had the safety on the frame.
@David Kuykendall oh yes I know I have written about it I have carried both for duty and while I do prefer the pt92 the fact is the Beretta is the better weapon for all the reasons you just stated accessory compatibility quality the fact that it's mil-spec excetera excetera. I just really prefer the frame mountain safety Beretta has come out with a new version that has a frame mounted safety now but it cost twice as much. One thing I would mention though is that Taurus magazines will work in Beretta's but Beretta mags will not work in a Taurus without modification which is easy to do.
@David Kuykendall Beretta eventually just allowed that patent to expire.
30 years ago I choose the Taurus P92 over the Beretta due to price for basically the same gun. I have never been disappointed with it, it has never failed on me and stayed accurate this whole time. It was my first hand gun purchased back when I was in my 20's without much money. After 30 years I've collected many 9mm's and my brother finally decided to buy a hand gun last year. I took him to the range with a variety of my hand guns, S&W 9mm, the Shield, the Walther PPQ etc... After shooting them all, he went and bought a S.S. version of the Taurus PT92! He was buying for home defense and range shooting, not concealed carry just to note. For concealed carry I bought and love the Taurus G2! After shooting and carrying that for over a year I went and bought a second G2 on sale for $189.00 LOL Seriously in my opinion, Taurus deserves a better reputation and THANKS for providing low cost, high quality products! I think half the public rates products on how much they paid for them rather then their true quality or value!! Just saying
They have made major improvements over the years and they do deserve more credit.
@@travisp11 Taurus got a bad rep because they put out a whole host of junk for a while. Even with guns like the PT92, which has been around for many years and everyone knows how great it is, it;s still tough to recover from a decade of garbage guns and poor customer service. I was unlucky enough to own a couple of those junk guns but I also have a PT92 and love it.
@@SuperUncleRyan I hear ya. They need to work on speeding up repairs and customer service.
Remember that the Taurus is a Beretta, its not a clone. Taurus bought the Beretta factory and rights to produce the pistol in early 80s. Plus, Taurus improved the gun during its production. PT92 an P100 are still in production....awesome gun!
Yup! All strong points. I agree!
Taurus didn't buy the rights. The copyright was allowed to expire.
I have the Taurus PT92 and love it! Mine also shoots a little low and left. It’s definitely my favorite pistol.
Right on!
I love the frame mounted safety on my PT-92AF . I've been shooting it since 96 and sill functions like a champ. At the time i couldn't justify the extra $230 for the Baretta - and I still can't!
NNITRED Good point!
how many rounds do you think you put thru your taurus
I paid just $350. for my Beretta 92f with just one magazine through it, and it was delivered to my home in a Pelican case that was free...
@David Kuykendall : The PT92 also went through changes to fit the Brazilian military's needs
Another reason to buy a Taurus PT92 is because it has a life time warranty. I bought one that was worn out and rusted from a pawn shop. It was a steal at $150 bucks. I took it and sent it to Taurus and they refurbished it for free. Great deal and great pistol.
That’s awesome!
Thanks for your review Travis. Over the past 20 years I've owned a Taurus PT99 and PT92. The PT99 has an adjustable rear sight, otherwise they are the same pistol. I qualified for my Texas license to carry with the PT99 with a near perfect score.
Right on!!
Currently this is the standard pistol of the Brazilian Armed Forces, adopted in 1975 and known as "Modelo M975". Very reliable and appreciated for having a better security system than the Beretta M9.
jggf62 personally, I like the location of the safety/decocker better on the PT92
jggf62 personally, I like the location of the safety/decocker better on the PT92
Você realmente gosta muito do sistema de segurança/desarmador da PT92, pois declarou isto por duas vezes consecutivas!
Agradeço pela qualidade do vídeo e de suas opiniões!
Love my millenium 380
Muito interessante as Forças Armadas do Brasil terem adorado a plataforma Beretta dez anos antes dos EUA.
Great vid man. This particular Taurus is the one that seems to get the most praise.
+UziNineMillomeetah She is a solid choice.
UziNineMillomeetah I'm not a taurus guy at all, I own a few and I'm generally not impressed, I started with a berreta 92f but sold it because I don't like slide mounted decockers/safety..but I recently picked up a pt92af for a great price and really like the frame mounted decocker and how you can carry cocked and locked if you so please, I've shot it side by side with a 92fs with a buddy that used a M9 in the Navy and even he prefers the pt92af, this is by far the best taurus I've ever picked up and can hang with any brand in my opinion, I love my cz's, glocks,Sig's but I'm very impressed with the pt92af for the price
@@Deadtileyedie Until this year and the release of several very well made 1911's the 92AF was by far the very best in quality made pistol in the Taurus line. I myself like the changes that Taurus made to the gun over the Beretta design it isn't as odd-man-out and definitely is far more appealing to those that are familiar with 1911 styled controls. Granted there are some Taurus pistols that you couldn't give me because of how horrible they are but I would take a 92AF over a M&P v1 S&W all day.
In the mid-to-late 80's I had my own FFL and around 1987 I bought both the Beretta 92FS and the Taurus PT-92 and found the less-pricey Taurus to be every bit as good as the Beretta. In 1987 my cost (dealer cost) on a blued Taurus PT-92 was only $239 but at that time the PT-92 did not have a de-cocker like they do now but I was okay with it. Sadly, I sold both pistols but I from that experience I was seriously impressed with the Taurus PT-92. I believe my cost on the stainless model was only $259 at the time.
Mike Hawk That is some good information! Thanks for watching!
I almost bought berreta but luckily the shop i went to had tarus for 200 cheaper so of course i settled for tarus and i couldnt be more happier i got a tarus and now im tarus for life baby its a way better gun
the comedian it is a great pistol
I was just at a LGS and have always wondered what the differences were. I always wanted a Beretta 92, but now that there really ain't much of a difference between the two I may get the Taurus. Heck I may just get them both. Another good review in my book. Thanks a lot and keep em coming.
dl dixon Thank you for watching! Both pistols feel nearly identical in the hand as well as the trigger pull. I honestly don't think you can go wrong with either one.
Currently this is the standard pistol of the Brazilian Armed Forces, adopted in 1975 and known as "Modelo M975". Very reliable and appreciated for having a better security system than the Beretta M9.
I have both. Just bought an Italian made 92FS Inox Ghost, made in 1990. The Taurus is my "night stand gun" and has the crimson trace laser / flashlight on the rail. For that reason alone, the Beretta would never replace it. Since most things bad happen at night when the house is dark, that's a requirement for a home defense gun in my opinion. I haven't shot it a ton, but the Taurus has been 100% reliable, easy to shoot with very minimal recoil due to its heft. I JUST bought the Beretta and haven't shot it yet, but I expect it will shoot just as well as the Taurus. If I could only keep one, for sure it would be the Taurus just for the rail and decocker location alone. Of course the Italian made 92FS Inox ghost is worth WAY more, but as far as utility, the Taurus wins.
The Ghost 92 is an awesome color combo! I don’t blame ya for trusting the Taurus, though. I regret selling mine. The temptation is always there to buy one back.
Very good review! Non biased, both great guns. The PT92 is solid! Might be one of the best Taurus makes, but you can't deny Beretta! Best bet is buy both, lol.
kungpowlarry I agree. Keep the Taurus as a range gun and the Beretta as your nice, round the home/go to war pistol.
Taurus do make some good guns, it's just that their rep is ruined by some of the shit they've put out. I've got a 357 Tracker revolver by them, and I love it.
Currently this is the standard pistol of the Brazilian Armed Forces, adopted in 1975 and known as "Modelo M975". Very reliable and appreciated for having a better security system than the Beretta M9.
Technically the Taurus was made on Beretta machining so is it really a Taurus? I love my Taurus! For 350.00 New at Academy Sports I couldn't pass it up!
I'd like a PT92, but I have far too many 9mm's already.
For the price Beretta should not be giving you a plastic guide rod .
MATT DYLAN I agree!
Beretta uses a plastic guide rod because they want to save on weight. Either way, for the price the Beretta is a hell of a deal. Forged milled steel slide and a forged milled aluminum alloy frame, steel sights. The plastic guide rod doesn't bother me one bit since Glock is the same price now and they have plastic sights and a plastic guide rod. The Beretta has far better and more elaborate craftsmanship and is still the same price. I would rather the Beretta have a beveled mag well but that is a small gripe and you can easily do it yourself.
@David Tabing Jr. I spent a month researching and trying different full size guns and just bought a CZ sp-01 tactical because it's the most accurate all steel built to last and comfortable gun I could find,I have no regrets what so ever I have over 1000 rounds in and not one problem and accuracy is unreal
It’s a part that does not receive stress and reduces forward weight. You can get one for $15. That’s my plan.
I have a steel guide rod inside of my 92f, and I had no idea Beretta was doing this. I own three Berettta semi auto's and all three have steel guide rods...
I'd afraid to face a person with a Taurus PT92 because his gun has a metal guide rod and a frame-mounted thumb safety.
And his PT92 is superior for being cheaper!!!!
My pt92 is my every day carry. Love it great gun.
I liked the PT92 so much that when Academy put them on sale I bought another on. I also have a Taurus PT1911 45acp and a PT111 G2 9mm. Great guns
David Thomas yes they are! Thanks for watching.
I have owned the 92 fs. I now own two pt 92s, there is a reason for this. It's all around better hand gun. I love the 92fs, but much better hand gun in the pt 92.
I've owned both, quite a few, and I agree with you 100 percent. Good review!!
Tom Miller Thank you!
I have both a PT92 and Beretta 92 and they are both great guns but the Taurus feels better to me and smother, also the safety placement is miles ahead of the Beretta.
I agree!
The PT92 was my duty weapon when I worked for the Sheriffs dept. It was blued with wood grips.....I NEVER, EVER had ANY failures of any type. I loved it and was sorry I had to sell it when we moved back to Australia.
jeff king Awesome info and that is a shame you had to let her go!
It's been a while since I've seen the Taurus PT92. Great comparison!
KSGunGuy 01 It's in my range rotation but Stan keeps me stocked up with something new every week. It is my go to basement self defense pistol.
travisp11 that's a good problem to have!
KSGunGuy 01 I agree!
I have had many of both guns, The Beretta has a [[ plastic guide rod and plastic controls ]] the Taurus has a steel guide rod and controls and is half the price.
The Taurus offers a great value!
Wish the Taurus version had the curve on the front strap of the grip like the Beretta has. Makes it look better IMO.
PaulMishima I agree!
That does make the Taurus look older.
It is a wash between these two pistols I have shot and owned both and I have to say I like the control locations and ambi orientation of the Taurus and honestly in terms of quality fit and finish they are both extremely high quality manufactured. I think it boils down to how it feels in the hand and how comfortable you are with the controls. nice comparison
True! They are both awesome pistols!
They both are great guns. I have had variations of each. I still have my Taurus it’s my SHTF go to.
I have the Taurus with trigger work, target sights and Pachmeyer grips. It's my regular sidearm for the past 30 years or so. Wouldn't take two Beretta's for it.
Nice!
I have converted some of the M9 Beretta magazines for use in the PT92. The Taurus PT92AF has become my all around weapon. Something you missed that the Taurus has over the Beretta is the warranty.
This is true! I have always tried to point out the Taurus warranty in my other videos.
I've owned both...I like the Taurus.
Luke Griebel Same here!
I got my Taurus Pt 92AF in the early 90's. It came with a 15 round mag that was grandfathered in with the ban on mags over 10 rounds. The new 17 round mags work fine in it. I did look at traveling with it and found traveling to states that ban wepons that can hold over 10 rounds could be a problem. So I took my TAURUS MILLENNIUM® G2 PISTOL , 40 S&W 10+1 RDS STAINLESS which did not pose a problem. I would like to say that when flying with a handgun, I have never had my luggage in better care.
John Brown That is a good point! Yeah, when you travel you have to obey their law of the land with regards to magazines, unless that state allows you to travel through with the magazines you brought from home. I know some states allow out of state residents to use their standard or higher capacity magazines if they have a concealed carry permit or are allowed those mags back home. Thanks for watching!
I had to contact the Highway Patrol in that state and they told me no one ever asked this before. They said most officers would not know what was legal. They said if I could bring a pistol that only had a 10 round mag, that would guarentee that there woulld be no problem.
John Brown That would be the safest choice.
I've had the PT92 for about twenty years now. Never had a problem with it. The sights are adjustable which helps me immensely. I've fired the M9 (the military version of the 92) when I was a military policeman in the Army. I prefer the PT92, its a great range gun.
dilbert bob I agree!
I have a Taurus model 66 .357 and a PT1911 SS and love them both. Never any issues.
Smedleydog1 I need to look into a .357 mag, it is my favorite round!
I honestly want both of them. But with the money, I'll probably go with the Taurus first. Thank you for this video I appreciate it
Thanks for watching!
@@travisp11 it was very informative! I just found out about this amazing Taurus handgun today. I've been a Beretta 92FS fan for a very long time, and was really looking into them, but the price has been a little out of my price range. I wanted to know if this Taurus was worth the money, and how well it held up against the Beretta in comparison, and your video showed me everything I wanted to know.
I'll definitely try to watch more of your videos and leave likes and comments as I go! Thanks a ton man, stay safe and have a great night!
If I didn't already own the 92F, I would choose the Taurus because of Taurus's commitment to quality, the life time warranty, and price. My 92f has a steel guide rod, I checked it with a magnet and it is the original factory piece I got with the weapon...
Kelly Anne Bishop O agree!
I've had my PT 100 for almost 27 years and have not had one single malfunction.
Dan Schutz I have been happy with every Taurus that I have purchased. They make good firearms.
Ditto. My two favorite guns are Taurus. PT-845, 12+1 round double-stacked hammer-fired 45acp that I got for $268 new, super-reliable and accurate. And my Taurus PT638, 15+1 380ACP with like 0 recoil; can fire 15 round as fast as I can and keep them in a combat-effective grouping.
Dan Schutz Very nice collection!
Jim Carpenter Nice!
travisp11 The first handgun I could buy myself when I turned 21 was a Taurus Model 66 .357 Magnum revolver. It's never failed me, hasn't fallen out of time yet and has fired all manners of heavy loads without a problem. I'm now 37 and still have it. I just bought the second PT92 I've ever owned, no jams, goes bang every time so far.
Although I have a vintage pt92 afs-d, my beretta 92f/s is my primary home defense handgun cause I think it more a proven weapon militarily.
Nice video. I have them both and really only bought the Beretta M9 for collection purposes as it serves as our Great Nation's Military's primary sidearm (not dissing Beretta in that I think they are a premiere firearms company that produces impeccable product; in fact, I have a Beretta 21A that has been one of the best single most solid reliable pistol's I've ever owned in 22lr to boot which is generally more finicky than the .25 acp version). That said, my Taurus is every bit the gun that the Beretta is for substantially less money--for many people this means they can uses the extra savings for ammo, mags, etc. as stated in the video. But to be sure, one is not sacrificing quality/reliability going with the Taurus. I say get both.
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Pro2AGuy Good answer and I agree with you completely!
I just bought my pt92 and love it went shooting last week shot 250 rounds
Right on! It’s a great pistol!
Fell in love with the Beretta after Lethal Weapon and Die hard.
Same here!
Taurus PT92 was my carry gun for 20 years with not a single problem ever.
Great pistol!
Love me some 92 but I just bought a pt92 afs-d . Not worried about rounds. I usually carry a lcp2 with extra mag but the pt is basically a Beretta with a better safety location
A lot of people like the PT 92 because of the manual safety on frame and the price. Now Bretta has a new 92fs and the manual safety is on the frame.
True!
The Taurus 92 is rock solid (unlike many other Taurus products), has a much better safety/decocker, has a rail and reinforced triggerguard like the Beretta M9A1 and M9A3, no slide failure issues, has a steel guide rod, and is very affordable, so it is a no brainer. Kinda heavy compared to a unproven Beretta 92X (will being so light hurt the durability?) but it's about half the price and has a better safety/decocker. The 92 type is my favorite DA pistol largely due to their good looks, great triggers and overall "feel".
A Glock makes more sense from a weight/durability standpoint, but they suck as impact weapons and are prone to ADs and NDs with their SA type trigger. I love the 92 type pistols so much the weight does not bother me. They feel like a real gun, not a toy like polymer frame pistols do. If I wanted something small and light for pocket carry I'd get a small DAO revolver like a Ruger LCR, not a Glock. Just wish Taurus would make a smaller compact variant as the full size PT92 is not ideal for concealed carry.
Richard Lutz The PT92 is definitely the budget friendly alternative to the more expensive Beretta.
@@travisp11 True. Sadly some people cannot get past the fact that it's not a Beretta. It's better than a Beretta IMO due solely to the innovative safety/docker which is vastly superior to the one on the Beretta slide that many people find a nightmare. Beretta should ditch the safety function and make it a decocker only with a reversed position so it's at rest in the lower position to prevent accidental activation and serve as a slide racking aid. Better yet, get a PT92.
AAMOI, I once had a steel frame 1911 I never warmed to and felt like a boat anchor, whereas I never felt that way about the 92 series pistols I love despite being about the same size and only a few ounces lighter loaded. Seems liking a gun makes all the difference.
saving up to replace my current edc with a pt92. honestly i think its the superior firearm. a big part of that is the safety location. i have no idea why Beretta decided placing the safety on the slide was a good idea when introducing this weapon in the US military trials. especially since previous open breach design pistols from Beretta like the cheetah had the safety on the fucking frame! and since the US was coming off of the 1911 which has a frame mounted safety, youd think they would keep it in the same place so as to provide a more familiar control system to the users they were marketing to. taurus was smarter about it and placed it in an area that is easier and quicker to actuate. then there is the price. you can find these brand new as low as $380 maybe a little less if you can find a decent sale. making this about 200 dollars cheaper. 200 buckaroos buys you like 1500 rounds depending on where you get it from, which in turn provides a lot of trigger time to increase proficiency. or it can go to accessories and training. overall unless youre a massive Beretta fan and just have to have the genuine article i dont see a real reason why anyone would prefer the standard 92fs over the pt92.
D. DIAZ I agree!
You won't regret it. I've been carrying my PT-92 for over 2 years now and it's the most solid handgun I've ever had. Love it! Few thousand rounds through it and it still runs like the day I bought it. Smooth ass trigger also.
The reason I never bothered with the PT92 is because it doesn't take Beretta 92 mags. The Beretta 92FS is a staple in my collection and having to buy different mags to a gun that is "basically" the same is a major turn off. This however makes the Girsan Regard 92 clone a little more desirable.
Smasher Devourer True, it is a pain to have to go with mags that may be a bit tougher to source, especially when 92 series Beretta are so popular.
Me personally I own the taurus 92 and don't have any issues with it but I still think the Beretta actually shoots and feels smoother.
I have both...love both 🤷🏿♀️
Big Glo Right on!
I have several Berettas FS and S and 2 Taurus PT92 in stainless I love them both and both are fantastic shooters and lookers. Keep in mind that Taurus is using the foundary and tooling that once belong to Beretta in Brazil but sold to Taurus
40thStangGT Yup. I think it helps explain the solid build.
My cousin was in that navy as a corpmen attached to the marine 1-9 he carried a m9 in combat but when he came home he always went for the Taurus (he had a personal m9/92 not sure he could of carried)
The frame mounted safety decocker is very nice and that is a feature that many people like.
The 92 is the best gun Taurus makes. I bought one in 1990 as my first gun and it's been flawless but I always wished it was a Beretta and the resale will always be $200 less than the Beretta.
I've got a handful of Berettas now and some parts are interchangeable between the Beretta and Taurus. The Beretta mags can be modified to fit the Taurus and Beretta, the barrels are even interchangeable (at least the models I have).
The frame mounted safety is much more intuitive on the Taurus IMHO.
If cost dictates you getting or not getting either then the Taurus will serve you well.
I agree!
I've been taking an interest in Taurus' pistols for quite some time and I have heard that the PT 92 and their 1911 are good quality guns for their price points. In all honesty I'm more of a 1911 guy, but the PT 92 doesn't seem half bad for the money.
Benjamin Danielsen For under $400 the PT92 is a solid, all metal shooter.
travisp11 I have a friend who has the Beretta and both of us agree that the slide mounted safety is an annoyance at the very least. I have a frustrating tendency to hit the safety when racking the slide and I seriously wonder why Beretta thinks it's necessary for them to put the safety on the slide.
Benjamin Danielsen Your guess is as good as mine. I tend to top slide charge my semi auto pistols and the chunky decocker, safety lever makes for an uncomfortable purchase/grip.
travisp11 in my experience with slide mounted safety guns, the best way to rack it is by using a "slingshot" method. Use your strong hand, make a fist, put the slide between your thumb and index finger (make sure your thumb is under the safety), and pull the slide rearward.
Benjamin Danielsen That is a good idea. I tend to grasp the slide over the top with my palm which makes for an uneasy slide charge.
Since I am looking the 92 style of handgun for concealed carry, I will be opting for the Beretta. I prefer the shorter grip which makes it easier to conceal. Add to that the ability to add a skeletonized hammer and a safety-to-decocker only conversion kit to the 92FS, I end up with an excellent 92G like Beretta without the 92G pricing. I can also purchase Recover grips with a built in pic rail frame shroud for a small amount of money, and now I have a full custom tactical Beretta for less money than a M9A3. I do not have those kind of customization options for the Taurus.
Yup, the 92 is tough to beat. If you don't mind spending a bit more, go with the 92, I bought a 92FS inox compact a few years ago and I love it.
@@travisp11 Yeah I am actually looking at the blue steel M9. I can pick one up for just under $600. With the upgrades I mentioned above, the final price comes out to $710. While the Taurus is hard to beat in value ($400) I just do not get the same aftermarket support.
I agree. If you want to do any upgrades the Taurus has some options but not the support, like you said, of the Beretta.
I've always liked the Taurus pistol better, especially the safety and ability to carry it cocked and locked
frame mounted safety was always a favorite of mine
Bought a beretta 92fs... Just because it was my first airsoft gun lol sold it and bought a Taurus... Rail... Safety position... I carry it a lot lol
Will probably buy an used old beretta just to have it around but yeah ... For carrying... Taurus
Right on!!
Guide rod, trigger, lanyard loop, magazine release, and safety are plastic on the Beretta 92. But for under 90.00USD you can get the parts from Beretta. The parts are very easy to put in the weapon. Have 2 of them and my off duty carry has had the above parts replaced with Stainless as was the barrel. The barrel was the hardest part to get and the most expensive. As to the safety I have not had an issue with using it in 10+ years working for the Ok Mil Dept PD.
Right on! Yeah, that would be a big step above what comes standard on the Beretta and leaps and bounds above the Taurus.
I have been trying to decide between a used Taurus and LE trade in Beretta. Thanks for the comparison.
Brian Martin Glad to help!
The safety (which I don't like) is in a much better position on the Taurus.
PCMasterRace Most definitely!
travisp11 yeah, my fingers always get caught on the 92fs's safety but the PT92's is out of the way. I still prefer no external safety, like Glock.
I chose the Taurus for no other reason than the safety/decocker. Its in a better spot. And the 2 are separate. You can put the pistol on safe in double or single action. On the 92fs......it is decocker and safe.
simon freer True!
Own and carried both...TAURUS 100 % FIT FEED FUNCTION...# 99AFD 25 YEARS...NEW BERETTA 92 I HAVE ALWAYS CHANGED THE PLASTIC GUIDE ROD...BOTH GREAT TOOLS.
Right on!
I went through the purchase decision back in 2008 and wound up buying the Taurus PT92SS. It has the accessory rail and I have a laser mounted on it. I've never compared it to a Beretta 92FS but my son owns a Glock 17 and we've taken them to the range together several times. Both of us felt the Taurus was smoother and more accurate than the Glock. The Glock is, of course, lighter. The only drawback of the PT92 is that, I'm told, it doesn't like to feed steel cased ammo, although the rounds in the video came out of the Taurus and they are indeed steel cased.
I shoot an M9. Paid $600 for it new. No issues. No gripes about the the slide mounted safety/decocker. I like the fact that when rotated to the safe position, the sear is disengaged and the rear portion of the firing pin is rotated out of alignment.
My brother had a PT92 years ago and had nothing but trouble with it.
Charles Huse all good info. The M9 is very hard to beat!
@@travisp11 Not to mention the fact that some of the upgrade parts for the M9/92FS may not even fit in the PT92 due to some of the relocation of certain parts.
@@CharlesHuse if true, your brother is in the extreme minority
Thank you for remaining as unbiased as possible. I'm debating over purchasing the stainless Taurus and the Inox Beretta. Leaning more towards the Taurus
The inox Berettas are beautiful but it is hard to beat the budget friendly Taurus.
@@travisp11 exactly. And I wish more people would realize that 'cheaper' doesnt necessarily mean 'lesser quality'
@@prestonnormile9996 this is true
You can get a guiderod laser for the Beretta.
Good to know! Thanks!
Bought my Taurus PT92 in 1986. Still shoots and works like new ... love it!!!
Awesome!
In 86 ? I’d say you got your money’s worth lol
I have a early 80s PT92 Taurus and love it. I will never sell that gun. No chandelier hanger. Made about 10 years after Taurus got the factory from Beretta. I'm not hearing great things about the newer Taurus 9mm. But as I said I love mine.
Yeah, the Taurus has sold a ton of the G series pistols but the good ol PT92, other than having a few minor revisions has been a tried and true player. It's a great pistol!
Really enjoying these videos keep them coming
Taurus Pt111 G2 Will do!
I’ve personally owned both, The milsurp 92S, by far was the best. The fit and finish of the Beretta is much better.
I agree.
In my opinion the taurus is cheaper enough by comparison you won't feel AS bad if damaged. given the typical motion of safeties the taurus feels more natural and I like them both but I only have the taurus. love it
The NONtactiCOOL I agree!
I have had a pt-92 for a long time. It was the first gun I bought about 20 years ago. I was military and had some experience with the Beretta. I prefer the safety on the Taurus. As a fan if the 1911 I think the safety is just more intuitive.
AmeriJam Acres I agree!
Taurus has a pretty good warranty as far as I know. Sometimes they don't fix the problem and your gun keeps going back and forth, but there is no time limit.
Seth B I would say that the Taurus PT92 is a safe bet. It has been in production for quite a while and in conversations with other gun owners on UA-cam, the PT92 is many times the ONLY Taurus that these people would consider buying.
Love my PT92. Gotta tell you though, that Beretta looks nice too. Thanks for the video.
Jim Fernandez Thanks for watching!!
Ibought my pt92 in 1985, s/s beautiful and reliable.
Awesome firearm!
I own both, would not sell either!! I'm more partial to the Beretta.
Just got a pt afs from back in 92.
Older model, no lock, has decocker.
So far, many parts do swap with OLDER models. Barrel and block drop in from either my S or Girsan.
Ill be testing the trigger bar. I understand the take down switch is different due to spring placement.
Trigger spring looks like it should go as well.
Its beretta dna...just a different branch of thought between two designers with beretta tooling.
Sounds pretty cool!
Well done video,
I agree on basically all you said, solid reasoning
Ive owned a Pt92 sold it and own a Beretta 96 still
both worked for hundreds of flawless rounds, so reliability by design is the same,,
but honestly in the hand the Beretta feels like a beautiful tool and the metal just feels great, the Taurus even though this is my choice as their most proven value semi, feels more like pot metal to me
i put Hogue rubber on both guns,
Buy which ever one fits your budget and needsand wants both will serve one well
my Taurus was a truck gun
Beretta by the bed
BARNEY THEDOG They are both good choices but I can see how one particular model may appeal over the other.
I only sold the Taurus becz i didnt need 5 nine mms at once ha it was not an easy choice, i liked the gun and paid 379.99 retail sold for 375 cash a few years later , so it was not a bad sale
BARNEY THEDOG That's a very good initial price! I paid $410.
Academy Sports,, heck 10 years ago i think
but that is why i sold it, it was least likely to lose much , i posted ad and sold that evenign for asking price
Five year old video and the same question is still being asked today. Which one? Both for me. Both are solid performers. The Beretta has a bit more polish, but as the comments suggest, the Taurus is indeed a fine choice.
I agree. I enjoy my Beretta 92 FS Compact just as much as PT92. Both are great pistols.
I chose the PT92 (a pair) and PT99 (a pair), a PT917 (basically a PT92 with a 4" barrel), and a 40 caliber PT100 because the safety is on the frame instead of the slide. I find the slide mount is easier to use, and when I was looking, the Beretta was about $130 more for essentially the same pistol and I can buy a lot of ammunition for $130. I've never had a malfunction with any of my Taurus pistols, and also have a pair of nickle PT58 model in .380 caliber, and a PT709 in 9mm.
Nice!! They are a great value and run well!
Nice clone comparison as I have never handled the Taurus but I love the 92FS...Good stuff...
Scott F. Both of them are great choices!
Something that wasn't mentioned is dollar value appreciation over time. I believe the "Made In Italy" Beretta 92fs is only going to appreciate in value - perhaps significantly - and will almost certainly outpace the Taurus. I own both the Colt Trooper MKIII and the Colt Python (original). Both are great guns, but when I lay them together on a table all eyes go to the Python. They don't care that they're both equally great guns. They don't care that they are both .357 and 6" barrel. They don't care that they were made by the same company. They just salivate over the Python and ignore the Trooper and would be willing to pay more for the Python - significantly more. I also happen to own the 92fss (stainless). [EDIT] When I buy a gun I go for quality, but also for the weapon's reputation, history and desirability. Of course I should add that where carry is concerned all these elements go out the window - I carry what I shoot best.
You make a solid point here.
I own cz's,Sig's, Glock and a little of everything, I got a pt92af for really cheap and was surprised shooting it side by side with a berreta 92 inox, I generally don't care for taurus but this one is a winner, even my buddy who owns berretas and used m9s in the Navy prefer the pt92af..
greg gentry Cool! Thanks!
PT92 is literally a better gun for less money. Holds more rounds, the safety/decocker is designed like that of a 1911 and it's made by the same factory that made Beretta's 40 years ago. PT92 is just a better deal overall.
Vertisce All solid points!
@quixoticelixer Taurus makes great firearms! You can't go wrong with a 1911 or PT92 from them. Even their G3's have gotten praises of late for being good quality! Hate them if you wish but it's just throwing away good money buying something that's overpriced just for a name.
quixoticelixer yup. And a darn good one at that!
Was bored, dreaming of a 92a1 and this came up in my suggested. I sure love my Chiappa/Girsan Beretta clone. But someday soon I'll have the real deal and it'll be the one with the rail and of course a type G. I'd love to compare all 3, Taurus, Beretta, and Girsan side by side.
Nate2099 That would make for an awesome comparison!
Well beretta orginally built the 92 i have the beretta 92fs love it best gun money can buy and one of the most reliable guns money can buy. Im not a striker fire fan. God forbid u have a light primer strike on a striker fired gun that means u have to rack the slide load a new round in the chamber before u can fire again my hammer fire gun doesnt have that issue if i get a light primer strike i can always keep pulling the trigger till round goes off pull trigger again is always faster then having to rack the slide
Glad I bought a Taurus can't wait to pick it up
Right on!
Thanks for the video it made my decision for me
For the 92FS, the magazine capacity is easily fixed. Beretta and Mec-Gar makes 17, 20 and 30 round magazines. Yes, in the case of the 30 round, it was made for the CX4, but all 92 series magazines between the two are interchangeable with each other.
Great review and I agree with everything. Shooting is better with the Taurus, just feels better.
Cool!
I suffer arthritis in my hands. Therefore, I struggle with the double action first shot. The PT 92 can be carried cocked and locked, but not the Beretta. So, for me, the PT 92 is the better option.
Right on!
I have both guns, I love them both, the Beretta has a better trigger. Both are scary accurate.
Michael Villela Right on!
The Beretta grips will work on a "Non-Decocker" model of the Taurus PT92 because the top screw is higher on the non- decocker Taurus.
Right on!
I have a beretta 92D and I paid $300 out the door. Was an old police pistol. Shoots flawless
steven mckinsey it is pretty hard to beat those LEO trade in pistols!
The one I SHOULD get is the one I prefer. But both are great. I will however, always choose the Beretta.
Jaeger Meister Nothing wrong with that!
Thanks travisp11 Good informative video (not a showoff video like many others), you forgot mention that you can carry the Taurus PT92 cocked with the safe on; and you can't do that with the Beretta 92FS!
Miguel Angel Corona of course! Thanks for watching!
Ok I have this video as a recommend every time I open UA-cam.
Show me why I should watch!😂👍
Just my take on the Beretta vs Taurus 92-platform pistols. You must be in the market for one or the other!
@@travisp11 Yea I'am just waiting for a Taurus pt99, it maby have something to do whith it..😂👍
I have a 92fs inox and a 92fs both smoth shooting and anazing pistols. I like them better than my sig, s&w shield and glock. Never even considered the Taurus. I was under the impression it was a cheap knockoff. But hay whatever works.
It was a weird situation as Taurus bought the Beretta tooling when Beretta stopped making pistols in Brazil for the Brazilian market. Not sure exactly what the details were behind The Taurus design and what they could and could not make but yeah, the PT92 is close to the 92 design but the fit and finish is not the same.