I'm from North Tonawanda and was 2 years behind Mandy. This case haunted our little City for decades. I am so glad she finally received justice. Thank you for covering her case.
@@patrickblasiol4924 I think it's pretty obvious.He lied about Everything, had false alibis , failed polygraph And who is this mystery friend just picking her up out of nowhere. Does he often wash his car at 3am. The old boyfriend was in fla so he's ruled out. I'd say the local flack he got was the only justice , and after that long you pretty much did get away with it
@@karliann1 ya, I think it was pretty common knowledge. Especially in a city as small as NT. Can't really keep secrets, you know? Word spreads fast out of the city too.
What's so hot about partying in big groups, anyway? Lots of downsides for too little real fun, when you think about it... Guzzling down foul tasting trash f***cking up badly your brain (still being in development at 17 years old), "listening" to loud garbage music as you can barely hear yourself talk, putting up with a bunch of jerks who probably more look for an easy opportunity to get into your pants than forge meaningful bond, perhaps seeing one or two j*zzbags brawl as they have the alcohol bad, having to mind about the parents deadline, deal with the way back home while dodging cops or seedy strangers and then the hangover... The dumb crap youth have to be okay with to appear cool to their acquaintances is sad, really.
I still don’t understand why we leave our friends on their own especially when they are drunk . I don’t drink and I would NEVER leave anyone behind at 20 , 30 or even now in my 50’s .
@@MariaRodriguez-hz3ss And if you see some strange man trying to get your friend into his car you grab her hand and drag her back in the club. No sir no thank you.
Things were a lot different back then. I was a teenager in the 90s and we'd car hop all the time, ride around and if you wanted to get out, you got out. You people run purely on emotion and base your views on what you think is or isn't right based on here and now. There were hundreds of times when we would pick up friends from school, male and female, cruise around and someone would say "let me out here, I'm going to walk to so and so's house". We were 17 and 18 yr old kids, it wasn't a big deal.
It seems like a lot of bodies are found by mushroom hunters! And large animal hunters, people camping or walking their dogs. . . The Mesa Bone Collector was outed by a lady whose dog found a single leg bone. That bone led to 11 or 12 bodies being found, so sad. Sorry if you've watched already. I hope he or she gets snagged soon! CL, ITK & PL are my top favourites to watch! Enjoy!!
I have watched all your videos and listened to all your podcasts. Your voice is so soothing, it’s the only thing that puts me to sleep. Thank you much?
I love that you added this to the channel I work in the oilfield and I listen to these videos all night for my shift I don’t even remember how I found this channel but I’m so glad I did
Appreciate that you place your listeners in the time context, not drawing out getting into the story, the steady tempo of the narrative, and your quality of speaking.
Hepatitis B virus can survive outside the body (a blanket for example) for up to 7 days. Hep C can survive up to 3 wks. Let's hope yr roommate's latest conquest ain't a burner. 🎃
There was a previous Into the Killing episode about a murderer who killed women in hotel rooms. In one of the hotel rooms where a victim was found, the sheets of the bed contained almost forty...uhm...stains, which DNA revealed to be that of dozens of different men, which is why they didn't immediately solve the case.
Excellent format , first may all Victims that you talk about rest in peace & also peace to their families. Thank you for bringing Lite to these unfortunate Victims , Hopefully somebody out there is listening and learning 🙏🏼 Rest In Peace
I love everything about this channel, criminally listed and paranormally listed! Thanks Rob!! Blessings to you and your family and followers ❤️ from Texas
@@Halzebub1 always found it shocking how in this country, 12 random people without any qualification can send a person to jail (to their death, sometimes), based on their "intuition" in a case like this with no evidence
@@Liquid0ne no evidence? Her pubic hair in his car isn’t evidence? I live 10 minutes from where it happened. This case haunted this town for years. Between Joseph changing his story to having friends lie for him. Or try to have them lie. They got the right guy. He did it. No mistake. “A friend picked her up near a church”’hahaha yeah, Ok buddy….
@@ampman5357 she was in his car, so whats strange about her hair being there? i cant follow your logic. my point was the main issue is that there were tons of cases in the past with "evidence" like this, being somewhat flimsy, and many many wrong convictions. youre only pointing out that he did suspicious stuff, agreed, but how does that prove beyond reasonable doubt that he was the culprit?
Not convinced. The police had one suspect from day one, and in my opinion failed to find evidence that he was even at the scene of the crime the night she was killed. Seems to me he was tried in the court of public opinion long before he was arrested. The victim's family and the majority of the community decided he was guilty years ago. The DA didn't need to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The only way he wasn't going to prison was if his lawyers solved the case.
You hear a lot more evidence and sometimes you hear the alibis of the suspects and something in their voice can you lead to a conclusion. I've served on a jury in a statutory rape case and the stories that came out in the newspapers (which we were not allowed to read during the trial) were way different then what we heard in court. The man was found innocent but I voted to convict.
I was thinking the same. Presumably more details came out in court, and I'm not saying he seems innocent, but it doesn't seem like the prosecutors could really prove he actually murdered her. All of his lies to the police could have been because he was nervous.
Agree, I don't think this was proved "beyond a reasonable doubt". I don't doubt for a minute that he did it, but I just think it wasn't proved beyond a reasonable doubt, which is the way our system is supposed to work. Hope they didn't make a mistake, but only he know for sure and he isn't saying, if he did.
@@ValleyoftheRogue literally nobody said that. Bad people existing doesn't absolve one of personal responsibility though. Bad choices lead to bad outcomes. Who would have thought?
@@ValleyoftheRogue if you get into a car with a stranger at night yes it’s your fault. If someone is able to take you bc you make poor choices you actively contributed to your demise.
Agreed. Why any woman would get into a car with a stranger is beyond me. I’ve been plastered and offered rides before and refused. I’ve refused to even leave a club and walk outside the door with someone. The parents letting a young girl drink and stay out till midnight is crazy to me… my oldest just turned 21 and never was that allowed
@@ValleyoftheRogue This guy wasn't a stranger. Still... of course it's not ALWAYS the victims fault. That is kinda why they are called "victims*. Still, can't ignore, since there is no perfect world, that risky behaviors do sometime play a part. Anyone that has looked at crime perpetrated against "victims" should be able to see a pattern, even though, there are no set rules.
I’m not convinced. I don’t believe that second pubic hair was found in his car legitimately. Le had a suspect and that’s who they arrested. The fluid being in her underwear is very suspicious. I don’t know who’s guilty but I don’t believe this was enough to sentence a man to prison.
I really love how you list what was the hit movie, song, bands etc that were popular at the time of the cases. Excellent quality video. Thank you for all the work you have put into these.
If you're innocent you won't lie about where you were and what you were doing. Saying a man confronted him and he cowered therefore he's not capable of murdering a woman is just nonsense. He's a coward who only has the courage to beat on women because he sees them as the weaker gender.
As sad as these stories are I love when you post s video. Alway's such a great content with facts & all truth. This story is & is always so heartbreaking. Thank you for another great video. The stories are absolutely heartbreaking but you tell them with the utmost respect and love 😍😉👏👍🏻💞💞 I listen so intently to your vids my friend 🤔😥😯🤬 God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊💝💝
I've been a CL fan for years & now a PL fan for sure, but I've never listened to the podcasts until now! So we'll see how it goes... Your voice reading a menu could put me to sleep.. Lol... Much love from Virginia! ❤ Ashley
What about the bra there was a struggle he ripped the bra off he strangled her with it there has to be gaining skin cells on that pulling in its tight as you're doing
Weird.. I don't know, hair inside his car, and assaulted in school by her friends and coward down, maybe if not guilty he would fight back, the ex, DNA found in her underwear, and he was miles away, and she wasn't raped, but he is violent, already taken to jail twice for domestic violence... Strange,... and the other guy's brother who suddenly wanted that the country music band played a pop song that happened to have the same name as the victim... Something is off, don't know what is it, but it is.
This is why normalizing teen drinking is dangerous. I wouldn’t allow my daughter to hang out with ppl who drink, and if I ever caught her drinking she wouldn’t go anywhere. Why? Because kids are already stupid- add alcohol and they make poor decisions that can ruin or end their lives. It’s unlikely she would get into a car if sober. Her parents overlooked drinking and allowed her to stay out tile midnight?? No way. Had her parents had rules and not normalized teens “partying” she would still be alive
I disagree somewhat... the fellow was known to her, and they went to the same school. I don't think the alcohol is really the issue, but it likely DID play a fair role in the situation. Also: teenage drinking was very common during that time & in that area. I had keg parties more weekends than not & I was only 16. I imagine teen Sxl assault was pretty common too, but under reported.
I guess you don’t understand what locking kids into a room and not teaching them HOW to make qualified decisions can drive them to do horrible things because they want to finally establish control after being suppressed, huh? My condolences for your daughter. You absolutely are not doing her any favors. It’s sad you don’t know any better. Poor girl.
@@tonyarichards5430 I don’t have any kids but where can people learn to parent? Like where did you learn this and why do some like the original poster not know?
@@jaysant6958 I was removed from a religious and abusive home and went to foster care. I was the 88th special circumstances kid they took in. I lived with them for two years. She asked me if I was sexually active, I said yes, and I was put on the pill. He taught me how to drive. They were what parents should be. Because of the horrible religious disease (Jehovah’s Witnesses) and the horrible physical abuse (whipped with a belt, on my knees with my pants down in front of the neighbors at age 14, the culmination of ten years of beatings by my stepfather) I became a vehement atheist with no children, by choice. I may not know exactly how to be a good parent (because I guaranteed I wouldn’t hit my child in anger like I had been by refusing to have any) but I can tell you exactly how to be a bad parent. Religious disease rots brains and destroys critical thinking skills. It’s straight up poison and abuse. Education is the vaccine for everything. Stupid people do stupid things because they lack education. Believing in imaginary sky fairies is stupid.
Knowing the highlights of what show was airing, what song was number one, and a couple of current events really gives context to these cases. This is my favorite thing about your channel. Keep it up, you're doing good work!
That monster got to live free after his disgusting crime for longer than she lived on this earth!!! He should fry for putting her family and friends through this tragedy for this long!What a d@mn shame!!! 😢
Have you ever covered the case that inspired "The fugitive"? It sounds interesting especially since it seems to have had enough of an impact to be turned into a series/movie!
People complaining about ads should maybe pay him because he got a house to run somehow and he works hard researching these cases, he deserves to be paid in someway for it. You won't complain about ads on tv
He gets paid by the youtube ads by adsense. I had a neighbor with one million subscribers like him and he was making 30 grand a month without in video sponsor ads.
You're taught to be weary of strangers and getting into cars as a child, but when it's someone you know,that all falls away and you let your guard down, she probably had no idea until it was too late,just what a creep he really was...RIP Mandy.😪🙏✝️
Exactly. I love his content but I cannot stand all the ads he puts in though. I have ad blocker but I can't block him because he has the ads in the story. That's why I unsubscribed last time. I see he has not changed. Only watching this one because I'm from New York.
@@picasso7721 just unsubscribed when I posted this comment after a year or more. The channel is good, bit there are so many good true crime channels out there, there is no need to watch one where literally like 15% of the total runtime is ads
He does this in each video. Its just a way of familiarizing or relating to the specific time frame the murder or disappeaeance happened. Xfiles and Frazier were 2 of the most watched shows during that time span.
but he also stormed out of his first polygraph... so he did have a temper...yes alot of it was circumstantial but lying about going to canada and working a fake alibi is suspicious... also washing his car right after he picked her up is sus too.... i think he did it but i wanted more evidence
The name & face seemed familiar, but I thgt nothing of it, figured I'd seen the case covered elsewhere. But when he said "North Tonawanda", I knew where I'd heard it before. I'd been at the pond the previous week. I don't think I've been there since I heard the news of her body being discovered. 😔
I live in CT, in the 80s a man killed his wife during a snow storm put her in the wood chipper (*fargo) Also a man that killed his wife in CT in early 90s, took years for them to figure it out because the husband kept the ac on which made the tim e of death not accurate.
I’m a few years younger than those involved and it definitely considered less normal now. Back then, everyone drank and smoked. My teen/young adult kids think its weird that I partied like that at their age.
I mean, my grandpa said everybody drank/smoke in HS in the 60s & smoking wasnt a big deal at all, so kids have been experimenting with such things as long as its been easily available
I think a lot of murder cases it's usually the last person to see them alive that's responsible . It's just a lack of evidence that prevents a prosecution.
The fact that he coward when confronted by a male friend could also signal he may only feel dominant over someone much weaker and smaller. Doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't assert that over a female rejecting his already fragile insecurity
I remember Mandy, and I don't know if it was the night she was murdered, but it was around that time. When the news broke I was shocked, I remembered how nice she was and I just met her. I was 10 years old when she went missing. Someone said she was actually beheaded and found on the Indian Reservation, Indians have darker skin, so maybe that's the missing Puerto Rican.
I lived one block down from the first picture they showed when talking about North Tonawanda and moved to Houston 5 months ago. NT is very safe, I used to just sit right by the canal late at night when walking my dog, but one still has to be observant as it is very dark.
Yeah but he was the only one that was with her after she left the party I mean even the woman said she seen him pull up next door talking to her and that she got in the car and then nobody ever seen her after that I mean I think you got enough with what they did collect to make it a case I mean not just that but her DNA in the backseat of his car you know the whole thing about her pants being pulled down and yet had to be pulled with Force to pull a hair with its root so I mean put it together and I think you can pretty get the idea of a what occurred that night
I don't agree with parents who are lenient enough to let their daughter drink. Mandy was irresponsible but the parents were never held accountable for what happened.
I was thinking the same thing. Just makes the person feel bigger (as in grown) than they actually are. You have to think a certain way to have alcohol in your system, yet not slack off regardless of who you're around.
OMG. Never held accountable 🤬🤦🏼♀️ their only child was killed. She was a responsible young woman and went out. Like teens do. She thought she was getting a ride from someone she knew and trusted. Did your parents know EVERYTHING you did?! Do you know EVERYTHING your kids do? How ignorant to say they weren't held accountable 🤬 her father died before justice and now her mother will due alone. Is that good enough?!!!
Sounds like they had no actual evidence but railroaded him because the cops didn’t like him and he gave some stupid answers. “I was by myself.” Always leads to “prove it” and you can’t prove you’re alone BECAUSE you’re alone.
So on circumstantial evidence... a quarter of a century later, a person can have their freedom taken. Essentially, sir, we don't have a better guess. So, tag, you're it.
I absolutely love how you go back with what was most popular at the time! PLEASE don’t stop doing that!!! Much Love ❤
Yeah I really like that too, and showing some pictures of the town where it happened.
Get a grip. Unnecessary detail. Filler.
We asked him frequently to not change the background music, but he did!
@@thepowerman8952 Calm down, dude.
SAME!! 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
I'm from North Tonawanda and was 2 years behind Mandy. This case haunted our little City for decades. I am so glad she finally received justice. Thank you for covering her case.
Do the locals think Belstadt is guilty? Seems a little flembsie to me.
@@patrickblasiol4924 yes. My dad was a cop at the time. They were pretty sure from the beginning as well.
@@patrickblasiol4924 I think it's pretty obvious.He lied about Everything, had false alibis , failed polygraph And who is this mystery friend just picking her up out of nowhere. Does he often wash his car at 3am. The old boyfriend was in fla so he's ruled out. I'd say the local flack he got was the only justice , and after that long you pretty much did get away with it
I'm a year ahead went to Ken east people I met from around the area all knew he did it
@@karliann1 ya, I think it was pretty common knowledge. Especially in a city as small as NT. Can't really keep secrets, you know? Word spreads fast out of the city too.
You don't drop a girl at night without making sure she's made it safely to where she's going.
What's so hot about partying in big groups, anyway? Lots of downsides for too little real fun, when you think about it... Guzzling down foul tasting trash f***cking up badly your brain (still being in development at 17 years old), "listening" to loud garbage music as you can barely hear yourself talk, putting up with a bunch of jerks who probably more look for an easy opportunity to get into your pants than forge meaningful bond, perhaps seeing one or two j*zzbags brawl as they have the alcohol bad, having to mind about the parents deadline, deal with the way back home while dodging cops or seedy strangers and then the hangover... The dumb crap youth have to be okay with to appear cool to their acquaintances is sad, really.
I still don’t understand why we leave our friends on their own especially when they are drunk . I don’t drink and I would NEVER leave anyone behind at 20 , 30 or even now in my 50’s .
@@MariaRodriguez-hz3ss And if you see some strange man trying to get your friend into his car you grab her hand and drag her back in the club. No sir no thank you.
Things were a lot different back then. I was a teenager in the 90s and we'd car hop all the time, ride around and if you wanted to get out, you got out. You people run purely on emotion and base your views on what you think is or isn't right based on here and now. There were hundreds of times when we would pick up friends from school, male and female, cruise around and someone would say "let me out here, I'm going to walk to so and so's house". We were 17 and 18 yr old kids, it wasn't a big deal.
@@TheRoadhammer379 We even had Jack the Ripper in Victorian times in London to say you think the 90s was safe is nieve.
I don't know who these people looking for mushrooms are, but they deserve a medal for the murder victims they're finding.
It seems like a lot of bodies are found by mushroom hunters! And large animal hunters, people camping or walking their dogs. . . The Mesa Bone Collector was outed by a lady whose dog found a single leg bone. That bone led to 11 or 12 bodies being found, so sad. Sorry if you've watched already. I hope he or she gets snagged soon! CL, ITK & PL are my top favourites to watch! Enjoy!!
I have watched all your videos and listened to all your podcasts. Your voice is so soothing, it’s the only thing that puts me to sleep. Thank you much?
You got that right. Not a production narrator, more like a voice magician that puts you to sleep ten minutes after the show starts. Most annoying!
I love that you added this to the channel I work in the oilfield and I listen to these videos all night for my shift I don’t even remember how I found this channel but I’m so glad I did
Appreciate that you place your listeners in the time context, not drawing out getting into the story, the steady tempo of the narrative, and your quality of speaking.
I live in Western New York and was going to recommend this case. So happy it has been solved and he is in prison!
"It turns out that bodily fluid can remain in clothing for a long time, even after that clothing has been washed." Kind of gross.
It really is. I don’t wear secondhand clothes unless they belonged to my mom or child
Hepatitis B virus can survive outside the body (a blanket for example) for up to 7 days. Hep C can survive up to 3 wks.
Let's hope yr roommate's latest conquest ain't a burner. 🎃
Nowadays there's laundry sanitizer.
16:22 Mandy was 70 years old?
There was a previous Into the Killing episode about a murderer who killed women in hotel rooms. In one of the hotel rooms where a victim was found, the sheets of the bed contained almost forty...uhm...stains, which DNA revealed to be that of dozens of different men, which is why they didn't immediately solve the case.
Excellent format , first may all Victims that you talk about rest in peace & also peace to their families. Thank you for bringing Lite to these unfortunate Victims , Hopefully somebody out there is listening and learning 🙏🏼 Rest In Peace
Thanks!
If you're new to this channel, well then you're lucky because you got 53 episodes to binge watch.
Oh, I have been here for all of them. I look forward to your videos. I'm so happy you were able to keep going through the ad apocalypse.
I love everything about this channel, criminally listed and paranormally listed! Thanks Rob!! Blessings to you and your family and followers ❤️ from Texas
Hello from a fellow Texan!
I love The X-Files, I was absolutely obsessed with that show 🤤
Me too!
Hello… every episode is excellent and enthralling. Thank you.
Mandy could be Alicia Silverstone’s sister
Right?!? I thought the same
No , she couldn't be ... they have completely different parents
@@ChitznBlipz Im certain you are correct on that. I just agreed with the comment because of the likeness they share :)
@@ChitznBlipz ~ Duh 😒
@@ChitznBlipz funny!!!!
Really Appreciate how you list goings on that were contemporaneous with these horrible happenings- Thank You.
Although I think he may have done it, they didn't prove anything. And it goes to show how the courts are played.
Exactly and he can go get a retrial say "there wasn't enough evidence to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he did it" and boom free again.
Yes this seems like a very weak case.
@@Halzebub1 always found it shocking how in this country, 12 random people without any qualification can send a person to jail (to their death, sometimes), based on their "intuition" in a case like this with no evidence
@@Liquid0ne no evidence? Her pubic hair in his car isn’t evidence? I live 10 minutes from where it happened. This case haunted this town for years. Between Joseph changing his story to having friends lie for him. Or try to have them lie. They got the right guy. He did it. No mistake. “A friend picked her up near a church”’hahaha yeah, Ok buddy….
@@ampman5357 she was in his car, so whats strange about her hair being there? i cant follow your logic. my point was the main issue is that there were tons of cases in the past with "evidence" like this, being somewhat flimsy, and many many wrong convictions. youre only pointing out that he did suspicious stuff, agreed, but how does that prove beyond reasonable doubt that he was the culprit?
Not convinced. The police had one suspect from day one, and in my opinion failed to find evidence that he was even at the scene of the crime the night she was killed. Seems to me he was tried in the court of public opinion long before he was arrested. The victim's family and the majority of the community decided he was guilty years ago. The DA didn't need to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The only way he wasn't going to prison was if his lawyers solved the case.
You hear a lot more evidence and sometimes you hear the alibis of the suspects and something in their voice can you lead to a conclusion. I've served on a jury in a statutory rape case and the stories that came out in the newspapers (which we were not allowed to read during the trial) were way different then what we heard in court. The man was found innocent but I voted to convict.
I was thinking the same. Presumably more details came out in court, and I'm not saying he seems innocent, but it doesn't seem like the prosecutors could really prove he actually murdered her. All of his lies to the police could have been because he was nervous.
I agree
Agree, I don't think this was proved "beyond a reasonable doubt". I don't doubt for a minute that he did it, but I just think it wasn't proved beyond a reasonable doubt, which is the way our system is supposed to work. Hope they didn't make a mistake, but only he know for sure and he isn't saying, if he did.
How did the hair end up in the car? Like how does it just fall out thru the pants? And also what to make of the fact it was seemingly ripped out?
That intro lol...when you need to meet a word count but have nothing to say related to the main topic 😂
Too many murders of young women begin with the car stopped beside her and she got into the passenger seat...
So it is always the victims' fault, right? No man has the right to harm a woman, understand?
@@ValleyoftheRogue literally nobody said that. Bad people existing doesn't absolve one of personal responsibility though. Bad choices lead to bad outcomes. Who would have thought?
@@ValleyoftheRogue if you get into a car with a stranger at night yes it’s your fault. If someone is able to take you bc you make poor choices you actively contributed to your demise.
Agreed. Why any woman would get into a car with a stranger is beyond me. I’ve been plastered and offered rides before and refused. I’ve refused to even leave a club and walk outside the door with someone. The parents letting a young girl drink and stay out till midnight is crazy to me… my oldest just turned 21 and never was that allowed
@@ValleyoftheRogue
This guy wasn't a stranger. Still...
of course it's not ALWAYS the victims fault. That is kinda why they are called "victims*. Still, can't ignore, since there is no perfect world, that risky behaviors do sometime play a part. Anyone that has looked at crime perpetrated against "victims" should be able to see a pattern, even though, there are no set rules.
Thanks as always CL👍👍👍👍
I’m not convinced. I don’t believe that second pubic hair was found in his car legitimately. Le had a suspect and that’s who they arrested. The fluid being in her underwear is very suspicious. I don’t know who’s guilty but I don’t believe this was enough to sentence a man to prison.
Him lying twice really doesn’t help his case tho.
Idk if he did do it or not but that "evidence" was lacking. Personally I wouldn't have convicted him.
I really love how you list what was the hit movie, song, bands etc that were popular at the time of the cases. Excellent quality video. Thank you for all the work you have put into these.
Hello, thank you for the upload.
If you're innocent you won't lie about where you were and what you were doing. Saying a man confronted him and he cowered therefore he's not capable of murdering a woman is just nonsense. He's a coward who only has the courage to beat on women because he sees them as the weaker gender.
Absolutely right my friend. So suspect & again the justice system failed another person. 🤬😥🤦🏻♀️💔
So awful. Smh & yep, such a coward.
God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊💝💝
You don't just drop women off at night you make sure they safely get where they're going.
As sad as these stories are I love when you post s video. Alway's such a great content with facts & all truth.
This story is & is always so heartbreaking. Thank you for another great video. The stories are absolutely heartbreaking but you tell them with the utmost respect and love 😍😉👏👍🏻💞💞 I listen so intently to your vids my friend 🤔😥😯🤬
God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊💝💝
Thank you CL. I love you 💕
bless this channel for the content it uploads.
I've been a CL fan for years & now a PL fan for sure, but I've never listened to the podcasts until now! So we'll see how it goes... Your voice reading a menu could put me to sleep.. Lol... Much love from Virginia! ❤ Ashley
I think you'll enjoy ITK, as well!
What about the bra there was a struggle he ripped the bra off he strangled her with it there has to be gaining skin cells on that pulling in its tight as you're doing
Thanks, Robert.
Gotta love when these guys think they've got away with murder just to have the hammer drop on their head
Weird.. I don't know, hair inside his car, and assaulted in school by her friends and coward down, maybe if not guilty he would fight back, the ex, DNA found in her underwear, and he was miles away, and she wasn't raped, but he is violent, already taken to jail twice for domestic violence... Strange,... and the other guy's brother who suddenly wanted that the country music band played a pop song that happened to have the same name as the victim... Something is off, don't know what is it, but it is.
This is why normalizing teen drinking is dangerous.
I wouldn’t allow my daughter to hang out with ppl who drink, and if I ever caught her drinking she wouldn’t go anywhere. Why? Because kids are already stupid- add alcohol and they make poor decisions that can ruin or end their lives. It’s unlikely she would get into a car if sober.
Her parents overlooked drinking and allowed her to stay out tile midnight?? No way. Had her parents had rules and not normalized teens “partying” she would still be alive
I wouldn't like to say it but as true crime fan is way too common for women to become easy pray after drinking.
I disagree somewhat... the fellow was known to her, and they went to the same school. I don't think the alcohol is really the issue, but it likely DID play a fair role in the situation. Also: teenage drinking was very common during that time & in that area. I had keg parties more weekends than not & I was only 16.
I imagine teen Sxl assault was pretty common too, but under reported.
I guess you don’t understand what locking kids into a room and not teaching them HOW to make qualified decisions can drive them to do horrible things because they want to finally establish control after being suppressed, huh? My condolences for your daughter. You absolutely are not doing her any favors. It’s sad you don’t know any better. Poor girl.
@@tonyarichards5430 I don’t have any kids but where can people learn to parent? Like where did you learn this and why do some like the original poster not know?
@@jaysant6958 I was removed from a religious and abusive home and went to foster care. I was the 88th special circumstances kid they took in. I lived with them for two years. She asked me if I was sexually active, I said yes, and I was put on the pill. He taught me how to drive. They were what parents should be. Because of the horrible religious disease (Jehovah’s Witnesses) and the horrible physical abuse (whipped with a belt, on my knees with my pants down in front of the neighbors at age 14, the culmination of ten years of beatings by my stepfather) I became a vehement atheist with no children, by choice. I may not know exactly how to be a good parent (because I guaranteed I wouldn’t hit my child in anger like I had been by refusing to have any) but I can tell you exactly how to be a bad parent. Religious disease rots brains and destroys critical thinking skills. It’s straight up poison and abuse. Education is the vaccine for everything. Stupid people do stupid things because they lack education. Believing in imaginary sky fairies is stupid.
The commercial quick breaks are irritating
Tough.
two minutes each. THose are long commercials.
@@lawrencetorrance7051 that's all I'm saying. I'm getting really sick of the monetizing shit.
Also quit trying to sell me shit I dont want.
@@didi012578 so you just wanted to say any damn thing to just be saying something?
@@didi012578 like 9 other people agree but didi over here is really really digging these 2 minute long commercial breaks the most
Too many commercials
Such a long time the family had to wait for justice for Mandy. Just heartbreaking.
Indeed.
except the man may be innocent. theres no way to tell.
Its usually the last person you are seen with who ends up being the murderer such as the case here.
Yeah that's always the case!
Way too many ads lately.
Knowing the highlights of what show was airing, what song was number one, and a couple of current events really gives context to these cases. This is my favorite thing about your channel. Keep it up, you're doing good work!
Good evening. Thanks for the video. Have a good night
Did the ad just tell me you’re Canadian? Your French class reference gave me flashbacks of those darn conjugated verbs 😖 Zut!
That monster got to live free after his disgusting crime for longer than she lived on this earth!!! He should fry for putting her family and friends through this tragedy for this long!What a d@mn shame!!! 😢
Have you ever covered the case that inspired "The fugitive"? It sounds interesting especially since it seems to have had enough of an impact to be turned into a series/movie!
As a fan of the show i like all the Frasier references.
I do too; Frasier was such a great show!
Honestly...you could space out your sponsor videos better. I can't get into the video when you are stopping every three or four minutes.
Hey you. Yeah you. If you're reading this hope all is well and have a great day please
Thanks you too my friend
Thank you 😊 💓
You too Drizzy
People complaining about ads should maybe pay him because he got a house to run somehow and he works hard researching these cases, he deserves to be paid in someway for it. You won't complain about ads on tv
I believe it's because he does it in the middle of the case story.
да!
He gets paid by the youtube ads by adsense. I had a neighbor with one million subscribers like him and he was making 30 grand a month without in video sponsor ads.
Thanks for the history lesson at the beginning of the video
You're taught to be weary of strangers and getting into cars as a child, but when it's someone you know,that all falls away and you let your guard down, she probably had no idea until it was too late,just what a creep he really was...RIP Mandy.😪🙏✝️
Leaving because of multiple ads of worthless stuff.
Thanks CL🙏💔🇨🇦🇨🇲🇺🇸
Great Job doing these videos, I like them . Thanks. 😁
You have too many ads
Exactly. I love his content but I cannot stand all the ads he puts in though. I have ad blocker but I can't block him because he has the ads in the story. That's why I unsubscribed last time. I see he has not changed. Only watching this one because I'm from New York.
I pay for premium so I dont have to suffer through this bs. I usually skip watching his videos until I’m desperate for this very reason.
I have@@jennylee5003premium UA-cam. If the ad is in the content I get the ad. Otherwise I get none of the advertisements. I love it.
@@picasso7721 just unsubscribed when I posted this comment after a year or more. The channel is good, bit there are so many good true crime channels out there, there is no need to watch one where literally like 15% of the total runtime is ads
@@Daniel-kx4sy exactly.
RIP Mandy
I can work around the deviated septum/plugged nose narration....but what the actual fraggle rock was the whole TV guide Xfiles/Frasier intro?? 🤔😣
im trying to figure that out myself...very odd...lol
Things going on in the time of the story
He does this in each video. Its just a way of familiarizing or relating to the specific time frame the murder or disappeaeance happened. Xfiles and Frazier were 2 of the most watched shows during that time span.
I can't deal with the way he talks. He needs one of those AI generated narrators. I was falling asleep listening to him
but he also stormed out of his first polygraph... so he did have a temper...yes alot of it was circumstantial but lying about going to canada and working a fake alibi is suspicious... also washing his car right after he picked her up is sus too.... i think he did it but i wanted more evidence
The evidence is all circumstantial. I would hate to convict an innocent man.
You state Mandy's age as 17, but then list it as 27 in the summary under the video.
She was only 17 😞 most if the pictures shown are her senior pictures 💔🙏
The name & face seemed familiar, but I thgt nothing of it, figured I'd seen the case covered elsewhere. But when he said "North Tonawanda", I knew where I'd heard it before. I'd been at the pond the previous week. I don't think I've been there since I heard the news of her body being discovered. 😔
I like the chopped up Audioslave sample in the background
I think there is an error in the description. Mandy was 17 at the time of her murder not 27 ;)
I live in CT, in the 80s a man killed his wife during a snow storm put her in the wood chipper (*fargo)
Also a man that killed his wife in CT in early 90s, took years for them to figure it out because the husband kept the ac on which made the tim e of death not accurate.
Uh oh you live in Connecticut, be careful.
Can't put a man away for 25 to life with that weak bit of circumstantial evidence... 😦😬😓
Where is your regular music please don't change it!!!!!
I think its hilarious that we now consider teenage drinking and smoking weed "normal" behavior.
Exactly. That’s NOT normal. At all
I’m a few years younger than those involved and it definitely considered less normal now. Back then, everyone drank and smoked. My teen/young adult kids think its weird that I partied like that at their age.
I mean, my grandpa said everybody drank/smoke in HS in the 60s & smoking wasnt a big deal at all, so kids have been experimenting with such things as long as its been easily available
Not normal sad
it kinda is lol
Sweet something awesome to watch good job my friend
I love your content but come on dude, commercials much?
I think a lot of murder cases it's usually the last person to see them alive that's responsible . It's just a lack of evidence that prevents a prosecution.
I don't like cold cases though. I like hearing the people get caught. 😊
Love hearing about pop culture and news from that time! Great unique start to the case. Rip angel
The fact that he coward when confronted by a male friend could also signal he may only feel dominant over someone much weaker and smaller. Doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't assert that over a female rejecting his already fragile insecurity
Great video very interesting case
The Best of the Best😊 thanks y'all (Crosby, Stills and Nash🤗)
Those face diapers are comical. Straight out of Star Wars 🤣
i thought you already covered Mandy? i guess not. Maybe it was Heavy Casefiles i watched.
This sounded rather familiar to me too.
I remember Mandy, and I don't know if it was the night she was murdered, but it was around that time. When the news broke I was shocked, I remembered how nice she was and I just met her. I was 10 years old when she went missing. Someone said she was actually beheaded and found on the Indian Reservation, Indians have darker skin, so maybe that's the missing Puerto Rican.
I am not sure he is guilty, maybe someone should have a look at his brother.
Yep and I've watched every single UA-cam video you have ever made on every channel
Did the convicts brother have an alibi
I lived one block down from the first picture they showed when talking about North Tonawanda and moved to Houston 5 months ago. NT is very safe, I used to just sit right by the canal late at night when walking my dog, but one still has to be observant as it is very dark.
Yeah but he was the only one that was with her after she left the party I mean even the woman said she seen him pull up next door talking to her and that she got in the car and then nobody ever seen her after that I mean I think you got enough with what they did collect to make it a case I mean not just that but her DNA in the backseat of his car you know the whole thing about her pants being pulled down and yet had to be pulled with Force to pull a hair with its root so I mean put it together and I think you can pretty get the idea of a what occurred that night
You know, we really don't care what movies and music was popular at different times. We just want to hear about the crime
NEW SEASON OF FRASIER!?
How did the hair end up in the car? Like how does it just fall out thru the pants? And also what to make of the fact it was seemingly ripped out?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. 🤪
I like the cultural reference between then and now, great touch.
RIP Mandy & Thanks CL🖤
WHOA!!! This is from my area
I don't agree with parents who are lenient enough to let their daughter drink. Mandy was irresponsible but the parents were never held accountable for what happened.
I was thinking the same thing. Just makes the person feel bigger (as in grown) than they actually are. You have to think a certain way to have alcohol in your system, yet not slack off regardless of who you're around.
OMG. Never held accountable 🤬🤦🏼♀️ their only child was killed. She was a responsible young woman and went out. Like teens do. She thought she was getting a ride from someone she knew and trusted. Did your parents know EVERYTHING you did?! Do you know EVERYTHING your kids do? How ignorant to say they weren't held accountable 🤬 her father died before justice and now her mother will due alone. Is that good enough?!!!
Sounds like they had no actual evidence but railroaded him because the cops didn’t like him and he gave some stupid answers. “I was by myself.” Always leads to “prove it” and you can’t prove you’re alone BECAUSE you’re alone.
We all knew for years he did it! I'd see him around town free having a great old time
Hi
how did this turn into a 3 decade oscar’s recap lol
Knock it off with the short breaks already
How would he know that the guy was Puerto Rican?
So on circumstantial evidence... a quarter of a century later, a person can have their freedom taken.
Essentially, sir, we don't have a better guess. So, tag, you're it.
Yes a new one!!