Which HF Frequencies Are Best For Emergency Ham Radio Communication?
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Good questions coming in over Instagram, "What ham radio HF frequencies should I use in an emergency?"
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Appreciate the shout out, glad to be of help! I hope we can all improve the work being done to drastically improve the utility of HF radio (and other non-ham specific stuff like Meshtastic) for the average person. Hope to keep improving the GhostNet project as well!
I hope so too!
Nice to see you acknowledge each other.
S2 please make content with other youtubers Thetechprepper,oh8stn,T-Rex arms ect!
SOTA and POTA are great training platforms to not only learn how to navigate HF bands, but also see what bands/frequencies people hang out on a regular basis.
100%
Doug, Totally agree. Also gets people used to operating in sometimes adverse external environments which will be likely for at least one of the parties in an emergency situations. I don't expect many personal emergencies while sitting in my "recliner"
Excited to hear about @S2Underground. I gave up on TechPrepper. He's too into digital and I dunno... his setups continued to get more convoluted and wasn't very practical ($500+ HTs, etc) But to each their own! If I didn't have 2 kids, I'd love to create a channel on Baofeng & Quansheng preparedness 🤣
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It was probably my video collaboration with Isaac from T-Rex Labs and Jason KM4ACK. No Random Contacts! 73
I shot this before your collab, I have since gotten MORE of the same questions, so nicely done!
Gaston is the man on practical, real world ham radio testing! Love the No random Contacts!
Alaska Pacific Emergency Net (14.292 SB) is monitored on a 24hr basis. It is a "Roll Call" net that 'officially" meets at 8:30am M/F Alaska time. Participants call in from Alaska & the Pacific Northwest / Wa. Or. Ca. Id. Mt and even as far as Chicago and NY. Several rotating Net operators including relays. It was a god send when severe storms (2011) destroyed several Alaska west coast villages (Nome, etc..) It was started because of the 1964 Great Alaska Earthquake.
Wonderful that it exists.
Josh I think you missed a big opportunity to mention ARES and NPTN (National Phone Traffic Net) regional nets. Both organizations are built around emergency communications in roughly state size regions and they have published frequencies and daily schedules. They will all have an early morning 80m net about 0700L around 3.94mHz or 3.95mHz for phone traffic. They typically at the same time have a digital traffic net at the same time at a lower frequency.
There are 40m regional nets, but they are less common because 40m has less than reliable NVIS propagation during the bottom of the solar cycle.
Gaston at the Tech Prepper has been killing it with his no random contacts series. He's done especially well with NVIS regional communications using digital.
Keep up the good work, Josh. Keep inspiring better more enjoyable hamming.
Traffic nets require their own video. I am working on a few things about it with people with first hand knowledge. Not just my poking around.
If you ever need help, just tune up on 14.300 until a boat person yells at you.
😂
More than likely yelled at by an old fart in Iowa with a sailor hat on pretending to be a real one who monitors the frequency all day to yell at “those no code potaers” for daring to use a clear frequency as intended or starting fake single person checkins so they can report anyone they hear to the fcc. The Maritime Mobile Net are some of the biggest scumbag liars in radio today and they exist to spread misinformation about their supposed “authority.”
Hey hey hey....you must ask if the frequency is clear a couple of times and then call CQ first....there is a protocol to follow. 😛😆
🤣🤣🤣
If you aren't maritime, you'll get yelled at, lol 😂
Practice on a regular basis with what you have. I check in on AMRRON and 7290 texas traffic net several times per week, almost always on QRP mobile, uBitx, and HTs, also have an old android phone with droid PSK and FLmsg. My equipment is easily operated on solar and with a little patience its effective. Minimal hardware.
Thank you for your valuable teaching. The process is the reward.
Take care, 73
The state of MS has an ARRL Section Phone Net that meets daily on 3.862 to pass traffic and take a roll call of counties in the state as well as check ins from stations in surrounding states. It's been very successful in helping with emergencies in the past such as hurricanes Camille and Katrina. There is a little used backup frequency of 7.238. Texas also has the 7.290 traffic net twice daily that is a huge net. I know this is a little off topic but we support Winlink as a primary means of communication in an emergency. Not many gateways in MS but I run one in the center of the state on an NVIS antenna that covers up to 300 miles (sometimes more). I agree with scrolling bands and practicing making contacts. Thanks for the great video!
Nice video. One short answer is “the ones we practice and train on.” That gets to the point that a radio’s not good if you don’t know how to use it. And don’t know if it’s in good working order.
Great video. We took our neighbors to a pro soccer match over the weekend and got talking about this. They have nothing... no food, no water nothing. I agreed that in a grid-down event I'd hand a preconfigured HT over the wall so they at least can listen. I HOPE they choose to stock up on food and water.
Thank you for this!! I was asking this question myself, after is recently getting my General, a couple of weeks ago.
Glad it was helpful!
If I want to know what is going on I tune into CB channel 6. Those guys are awesome when it comes to community service. They all sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger when he gets sucked out into the mars atmosphere.
Nice video Josh! My word of advice: program all your local repeaters and more from surrounding areas. There will be some emergency operations on them for sure.
Good call!
Good advice and explanations, from
a ham, 80 years old, and licensed over
60 years.
73 de W2CH Ray, ex WV2ZPD, WA2ZPD, WB7EGN, WB1BTO
and V25CH. 😊
This is why I am working on my General. Also heard 28.400 is a great place to call for help on 10 m
Good to know. Recently got my technician and put together a 10m base station. I've only heard static but I haven't tried calling cq yet.
10m is closed most of the time, so that wouldn't be my first attempt. 20m/40m for me with a NVIS inverted V is very regional. 40m especially so. 10m you would likely end up in Europe, South America or Africa. Which is not very useful in an emergency...
@@gerneticut I might suggest to listen in the 10M beacon subband. Google a list of 10M beacons. It should have frequencies as well as a listing of the callsign. Then you can figure out what letters are being repeatedly sent out for their callsign and /B for Beacon. Then you can get a better idea of what you can hear, from where, and how strong due to propagation.
@@SteveBerwick "closed" refers to the prospect of DX contacts but overlooks the very real and reliable groundwave capability of the band.
There is a reason State Troopers were equipped with "low band" VHF radios (40-ish MHz)
The last video I watched of yours, yesterday, was your first FT60 video. Now I have been an active HRCC member for years. But, the contrast between the two videos is just awesome. Great work, Josh!
Wow, thank you!
my forest land is a 4 hour drive (with zero bad traffic) from where me and family live. theres no cell signal at my highland-forest land. And the nearest cell tower is 14 miles away, also on a high hill - all the endless wet trees between me and the tower are absorbing all the signals
Excellent Josh. Those tidbits on how you would handle things are pure gold and super interesting.
Probably another topic.. but as far as "Frequencies" the ARRL EC should have this effectively covered in their ICS-205 Communication Plan.. The frequency list could also be based on scope, incident type ( Weather it be Natural, HazMat, Nuclear, etc.), Available Resources, and Time. Lot folks may be volunteering from other areas. Having a cheat sheet that you can hand out listing the 'Channels' of said frequencies is great in such that these volunteers that are not familiar with local frequencies they will have a generic name that they can reference.
Listening regularly is good as you figure out what traffic is in your area and what sorts of info are communicated on them. If there's an emergency and you start scanning your waterfall for the first time and get excited seeing all this activity, you might get frustrated as you actually find they're digital signals and you can't listen in or speak back, or you might catch the local repeater giving its regular, automatic call sign and think it's a person and you start trying to talk to it. If you listen regularly you know all that ahead of time and can quickly see what are likely legit signals.
This is the best video explaining this!
Glad you think so!
Check out the Auxiliary Communications Field Operations Guide. Section C.1 Amateur Radio Emergency Frequencies" 3750 or 3985 LSB, 7060, 7240, or 7290 LSB, 14300 USB, 18160 USB, 21.360 USB"
Josh your video was excellent! Thank you so much! 73 ☺️
0:31 I bet it was TTP and TrexLabs’ latest collab haha! 😂
Fantastic presentation. Thank you.
The timestamp for this video is 9.11. Coincidence?
My smartphone calling 911 is the best 😂😂😂😂
Another good video Josh! I enjoy your way of putting the info out there.
Hey there Josh, I am watching a movie “THE FINAL COUNTDOWN”
it has some interesting radio and lighted CW. Thought you may be able to review it.
Josh,
Good presentation.
Thank You,
JR
Thank you.
Gread info as always, Josh. If you're looking for a subject to make a video, you might consider appending to this one with going over the broadcasting frequencies across the bands...maybe identify designated news stations, time stations, etc. Just a thought.
Yep great idea!
Great video.
I believe there was another cellular outage in several places....
Good primer. Maine has done a good job at publishing ARES frequencies and nightly / weekly nets. Each state or region may have similar emergency plans. I have a list of nets from different sources I have found online printed in a binder. It's come in handy when I go camping and want something to listen to. Still, tuning around is fun. There's a lot of interesting shortwave broadcast out there still. 73 de KC1JMH
I'll see if I can remember the name of the link, for a spreadsheet that another ham put together with a list of nets, including emergency nets.
Nice job, Josh.
Any frequency you can get a contact on
SMART MOVE
Years ago, I started, (but never finished), a list of all of the states and provinces, with their RACES (in my state called ARPSC) and NTS traffic frequencies for H&W.
Oh dang, that was probably a long list!
@@HamRadioCrashCourse ehh...sometims 2 freqs on 76M, and sometimes 1 or more on 40 and 20. Reminds me, I should start again. The hardest part was just doing the research on the web to find each states RACES/ARPSC (in my state of Michigan, it's Amateur Radio Public Service Corps) website.
Josh, nice concise overview of HF EmComm methodology. I think we just might have some more new hams coming our way!
73 - KF6IF
People that want to get on air and talk to others? Or a bunch of GI Joe wanna- bes? And yes, there's a difference!
Do a POTA activation within 3kHz of 14300…you’ll find stations promptly 😂
Careful Josh bringing up the martime mobile service net. I recently made a video defending it and the haters came out of the woodwork.
I seem to be running headlong into the haters these days.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Don't let that bother you you're doing a good job
I genuinely appreciate what the net can provide. I've checked in a number of times myself (casually and I hope that's the only circumstance I ever do). The people more involved though must step up and set examples of proper conduct for the no call/fake call "enforcers" of the frequency instead of throwing their hands in the air and exclaiming there is nothing they can do. There's no excuse for the people that purposefully interfere with the net operations, likewise there is no excuse for people staying silent to QRLs and then jumping at the CQ (and usually while not IDing) to run people off. I cannot think of any other net, on any band, that is as adept at fostering good will with one hand and destroying it with the other as that one is, which is a real shame because there's really nothing else quite like the best elements of it.
Its also the beginning of hurricane season!
I said that
@@HamRadioCrashCourse i got excited and commented before finishing the video and forgot to delete it 😅
Loved the video well thought out as always
@@Blake-jl8lh a premature commenter. Nice!
i have only my quansheng for pmr/lpd and a 11 meter radio in my daily bag as i cant transmit on ham bands lol
There is more information in the Amateur Radio Emergency Frequencies section the the National Interoperability Field Guide (NIFOG). How about 60 Meters??
Some 60-odd years ago, _Channel D_ was in fairly frequent use 😂
With the sporadic nature of propagation, synchronous HF voice is certain to be hit and miss. It could take days to get a message to someone in poor conditions. I believe Winlink and protocols like it make more sense for emergency communications and it's not as prone to errata. The ARRL or someone with reach and money should hold a symposium on emergency communications with subject matter experts on using the different modes. It seems to be a popular topic and one that's well worth discussing, especially as our US infrastructure seems to deteriorate by the day. Just today, I think MA had a 911 outage. It's just sad.
I need to find these emergency frequencies for all of VK but our prepper following is like 1/20th of yours up there. We just dont see the doom and gloom you guys seem to see. 🤷🏻♂️
Alert ⚠️ Florida will have a bad 👎
Hurricane season. Be prepared
for the emergency frequencies
Sorry to say this having lived and
vacationed there too. 😮
good video
Which HF Frequencies Are Best For Emergency Ham Radio Communication? THE ONE THAT WORKS. Issues: Day / Night / Time, Season, Space Weather, Terrestrial Weather, Band, Frequency, Mode, Antenna, Power and many more. Know what 6 Meter, 10 Meter repeaters are nearby.
I work in roadway construction and noticed a jeep with what looked like 4' radio antenna mounted on a jeep. When i asked them about it they said it was memphis. What is / are memphis radio? Im getting my start in GMRS so still learning about all of this.
Some business radio frequency or something along those lines.
Were they using a Doppler shift tracker for RF foxhunting? Did they have a display that would indicate "compass" directions?
Any hf frequency a net is about to start on should get the attention of a sad ham that may or may not help.
Put all the simplex frequencies that are part of your local VHF/UHF band plan into your HT and be able to scan all of them, put them in a bank if your HT supports banks.
and don't forget the TP should you have to evacuate
@@USAVET11B20 depends on just what is being "evacuated"... 😂
"Which HF Frequencies Are Best For Emergency Ham Radio Communication?"
ALL of them! Depending on many factors some may be better than others at times of the day, things like that.
I just don’t understand why let’s say the ic7300 don’t receive like 111.75 in emergency situations
Like why have to buy icR8600
Because it’s an HF radio. Not a broadband general coverage receiver.
Hey brother. Can you do a review on the Cattail antennas vs Abree’s ?
Yes I think I can.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse YES!!👍
Preppers are the future.
I believe 40m. From my short but extremely fast learning experience 40m band is more localized in the area you live in.
Not specifically. It goes much further than that.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse True, especially at night.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Not so far during the day.
Can you do a review on a retevis c1?
Am I able to put cb channels on my FRS GMRS radio with chirp?
Yes, but you have to use the ChirpNext version. And remember to also program each channel for each sideband, upper and lower, as well as the center frequency of the carrier. And you must also designate the modulation of each channel, either AM or FM and don't forget to set up any CTCSS or DCS codes for any of the local channels in use in your area. You may also be able to set up the amount of ECHO you want to use when transmitting as well as setting up a ROGER BEEP for the end of your transmission. Also, don't forget to add the CLARIFIER/FINE TUNE settings to be able to tune in the signals that may be slightly off frequency. The main thing to remember is to set up your POWER OUTPUT and don't forget, you have to set it up for each method of MODULATION because with the AM MODULATION you can get it to really swing, meaning the transmission POWER gets stronger the louder you speak. But be careful to not OVERMODULATE your signal as it can be annoying to other users on adjacent channels and it will really put quite a drain on your battery and especially so if you are using a Baofeng or other cheap Chinese radio. But you should be able to swing 25 watts out of a decent cheap Chinese radio if you set it up correctly. Have fun and 73s hope to hear you on the CB bands with your FRS/GMRS radio! P.S. Come back to comment on your setup and how it works for you because people really want to know how to do it!
Unfortunately "Hall Monitors " don't need anyone's permission to be jerks. The Sad hams tend to gravitate towards those type groups.
“Just ignore them” is my best advice.
neither do the jerks and POTA operators who complain about long-established nets operating on the HF bands.
I think the video's length is 9:11 for a purpose
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How’s that new General course coming along?
Any day now.
I would be interested in that!
@@HamRadioCrashCourse
People are maybe a little nervous about Russian nuclear warships in Cuba.
The recent att outage was the reason I finally got my technician
BAHAHAHA.....what about the Russian subs that transit the international waters off the US east coast every day gathering intel? Same with the Chinese, they're navigating "weather" balloons across the US from time to time.
What is the small orange radio shown here?
It's a (tr)uSDX
not sure ... but looks like an "Elecraft KX type" radio .. popular with hikers .. where minimal weight equipment is needed .. actually they are facinating radios and expensive .. or perhaps you were talking about the handheld satellite radio made by Garmin
Trusdx. Go watch my “one pound POTA challenge”
This video is 9:11 long. Coincidence? I think not!
👍 73''
During an actual emergency be careful not to interfere with actual emergency traffic. It's a good idea to contact your local RACES and/or ARES group to learn about emergency communications.
Steve, k7ofg
That's still some bad advice. You think that at all times when RACES is handling "actual emergency traffic" that they are going to have the time to field question after question ....repeatedly throughout the entire operating time...to answer questions on what happened??? If ther are handling that traffic they aren't going to have the time nor the inclination to keep a net "hiccuping" with question after question from people. You will be directed to seek the proper information from the proper personnel. For your sentence to have merit people better do so BEFORE the fact...not after.
Definitely not 7.200. I just found that mess recently after I worked for hours getting my HF antenna working again and my kid standing right here. I thought I had left it on a CB frequency LOL
yeah, a group of CBers migrated to amateur radio in my local area and now the repeaters sound like CB channel 19 with all the radio checks and swearing.
@@USAVET11B20 LOL wow. That might be even more shocking tbh. I had just never heard this type of behavior before and I've been licensed since 2001.
Woohoo
Shame on you for excusing the rude behavior of the Maritime Mobile Net lids. They don’t get any gentlemen’s exemption to run their supposed “24 hour net.” Nothing has been agreed upon that the frequency should be left alone for their use, they just think they own it.
They are vicious emergency responders larpers who think they are running an approved and regulated service - they aren’t.
Nets actually are an approved and regulated service, just as your individual operation is approved and regulated....by the FCC. Perhaps you mean to say that the MMSN isn't a sanctioned net. Well, that too would be a false statement as nets sanction themselves. Quit complaining about the 6 Khz of space amateur HF nets occupy on the bands (3 KHz above and 3 KHz below the center frequency). Fun Fact, the IARU (International Amateur Radio Union) does in fact designate 14.300 as part of the Global Emergency Center of Activity, and the IARU appears before the International Telecommunications Union (ITU), a component agency of the UN which regulated global RF spectrum, to advocate on behalf of ham radio around the world. Without ITU coordination each nation could move amateur activities to completely different parts of the spectrum which would make global HF communications near impossible and RF interference common. Think what would happen if the ITU wasn't regulating the HF spectrum, the European Union could move all amateur bandwidth of the 27 member nations off the ITU established band plan making amateur communication with those 27 nations impossible. So yes, there is an international organization which recognizes the gentlemen's agreement establishing the nets operating on 14.300.
waste of time. Why couldn't you get to the point to start then back fill. Its the way of UA-cam, tease, procrastinate.....
Ok, Steven Spielberg, but what do you think about the message in the video?
@@USAVET11B20 I don't. You've become combative in lieu of seeing the message. For the talents you wanted to display they just got mixed up in the mix. Critique; you took it as a criticism
@@donl5158 will you make a point that we can understand? Your comments are nonsensical. HE'S become combative in lieu of seeing the message?!?? WUT?? He gave a sarcastic or snarky question in response to your original hostile comment. Then your 2nd sentence doesn't play any part in his reply. I haven't got a clue to what the fuck you're talking about with talents getting mixed in the mix. Yes, it's probably fairly obvious most people might take your hostile comment as criticism, that's because factually IT IS. Duh.
The MMSN just hogs the channel even when they have no traffic but at least if you are in distress just call CQ on 14.300 and you are sure to get an answer. A net should handle traffic and then return the frequency back to normal use once the traffic ceases.
I can see it both ways. In most situations though, I like that it’s held free for distress calls. If I was landlocked and needed help, you better believe I’d try 14.300.
@@HamRadioCrashCourseit’s not “held” for anything and the idea that it is is made up. The MMMN perpetuates a lie that it’s an emergency frequency when it’s not. You need to refresh yourself on the rules. There was a Reddit thread about it recently.