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  • @RB9522
    @RB9522 4 роки тому +80

    Your company is doing a great service to the community by allowing you to make these videos. It educates people and raises awareness of how the industry works. Most of us can refer back to a time when we learned or saw something that inspired us and maybe led us to a career. And, thanks to you for being proud of what you do and taking us along!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +17

      Thank you Richard. I am not monitized and other than the pride I feel in putting these little videos together, comments like your make me feel like all of my time and effort have been worth it. Thank you so much!!!

    • @southjerseysound7340
      @southjerseysound7340 4 роки тому +7

      @@TimBatSea Years ago people would take a kid for a tour like when I got to fly in the jumpseat of a Eastern Airlines DC-10. That day was the catalyst that made me want to be a pilot. It's a shame because those days are long gone. Thankfully there's still guys like Tim and great companies like the one he works for that give him the freedom to bring us Into these videos. It's funny but my daughter loves seeing the tugboat and she's already said that she wants to "drive a tugboat" when she gets older so who knows. She's only 7 but I was the same age when I got to ride in the jumpseat from Philly to Florida. They actually let me hold the controls and fly the plane to earn my little pair of wings. Now days that pilot would probably get thrown in Federal prison for having me in the cockpit of a loaded airliner,let alone hold the controls 😂.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +6

      @@southjerseysound7340 Thank you so much for the kind words. They are the reason I make these little videos. Thank you again and great story about sitting in the jump seat. By the way, tell your daughter that girls are very welcome in our industry and most do very well.

    • @southjerseysound7340
      @southjerseysound7340 4 роки тому +5

      @@TimBatSea I will and I'll tell her that you said hi. She's definitely a daddies little girl. She picked up a ratchet around 4years old.She was watching me and picked it up after I set it down while changing a headlight. So I just let her go to town on a bunch of 10mm bolts. I thought it was the best thing ever up until my wife came out 😂. She started using a tape measure around the same time too. I was making a little cradle for her dolls and caught her measuring it with my tape instead of putting her dolls in it too 😂. My wife wasn't as enthusiastic about things at first but since we had another girl she's got her little princess too now.
      Anyway thanks again and stay safe out there.

    • @BeKindToBirds
      @BeKindToBirds 4 роки тому +2

      Absolutely. I am considering how to work on a boats engine room because of these videos. I am able to talk to my fiancee about the pros and cons of the career very well thanks to these great videos.

  • @lloydholt6511
    @lloydholt6511 4 роки тому +27

    I’m an old Navy man who worked in the engine rooms of several naval ships over my 20 year career. You gave a Great tour. You did an excellent job of giving people an explanation of how the engine room looks and operates. Thanks for the tour.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +5

      Thank you for watching and for your service. I hope to be able to keep making this kind of content for you. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already.

  • @rusty7720
    @rusty7720 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Tim for the very thourgh engine room tour,I was one of the guys who mentioned getting a look down below. In my 51st year at sea,still enjoying it ,my son is the 5th generation of the family to keep the tradition going.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Welcome to the channel! Wow. 5 generations. That's great! Be safe out there. CUOTO

  • @mrwest5552
    @mrwest5552 4 роки тому +46

    it's just a tugboat & I'm just a tugboat guy. Yeah well I know I'm thrilled to see, hear & learn about machines I know little about. I appreciate you & your crew

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +4

      That may be the nicest comment I have ever received. Thank you so much!

    • @farmerbrown3768
      @farmerbrown3768 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah! that goes for me too.....just a farmboy from the Midwest! Amazing the different lifestyles range from one corner of the country to another.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      @@farmerbrown3768 thank you David. I really means the world to me.

    • @sqmcmahon1
      @sqmcmahon1 4 роки тому +1

      David Brown )

  • @frfrpr
    @frfrpr 4 роки тому +37

    OUTSTANDING VIDEO! Heard everything you said. Actually the sound helped in the authenticity of the show. The most informative Tugboat videos on UA-cam. Thanks

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for watching and for the kind words. Please consider subscribing.

  • @flyacf
    @flyacf 4 роки тому +16

    Hey Tim… I am really enjoying your videos. I am a captain on
    a Boeing 737 for a major airline and you talk about a lot of the things similar
    to what we do in aviation. For example, like you said, we too haul the planes
    into maintenance on time intervals to do major inspections. Interestingly
    enough, our engines are on condition. We monitor engine parameters continuously
    for one-time events that can damage the engine (for example, a hot start) but
    also we look at long-term trends to determine the performance of the engine. As
    the performance deteriorates, maintenance determines when to remove an engine
    for overhaul. I cannot remember the total amount on some of the longer lasting
    engines, but I do remember thinking “Holy crap, that is a long time.” Another
    similarity that I noticed is that we also use pneumatic air to start our
    engines as well. Instead to compressed air, we use bleed air off of our auxiliary
    power unit (a turbine engine as well). On start we have about 30 to 40 psi
    depending on the altitude of the airport that we are at. Anyhow, keep up the
    good work and I am looking forward to your next video… Andrew

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +3

      Wow! Very cool Captain Andrew! Thank you for watching. I have been working with the USCG Sector NY to get clearance to shoot a behind the scenes video of VTS (our version of your ATC). If all goes well, I should have a video that you may find interesting up in March. Thank you again for watching, and if you have ever flown to Puerto Rico, I'm one of the ones that clapped for you on a safe arrival!

    • @flyacf
      @flyacf 4 роки тому +3

      @@TimBatSea Very cool! I am looking forward to VTS video. I work for Alaska Airlines and the furthest southeast that we go is Ft Lauderdale.

    • @jcrif
      @jcrif 3 роки тому

      That’s why you have the two engines, when you have a nice compressor stall on takeoff roll, you can just come back in on one

  • @fly3po1
    @fly3po1 3 роки тому +3

    Your company has to be proud of how well you take care of their boat....as if she WAS yours. I love it your channel.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching Mark. If you are new to the channel, welcome. Please consider subscribing as I try to post new content every Tuesday. COUTO

    • @fly3po1
      @fly3po1 3 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea I am new as to last week....and I subscribed after the first video. Have you done a tour of the quarters on board? Just curious. Love your videos as I have always been a big fan of tugs. Stay safe, sir, and thanks for the great videos.

  • @saabjunkieSPG
    @saabjunkieSPG 4 роки тому +22

    Awesome. I really liked the tour with you narrating in real time. The engines were just a form of background music!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +4

      Thank you. That was my justification for not doing a voiceover. I figured, if you were there in person, that's what you would hear. Thank you for watching.

  • @rooster78383
    @rooster78383 4 роки тому +2

    Congratulations to the crew for maintaining such a clean and orderly engine room and workspace. Pride in workmanship! I’m hooked on these videos. Well done.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for watching. Tomorrow's video will be an engine room tour of a 4200 HP tug.

  • @owdengineer
    @owdengineer 3 роки тому +1

    What a great tour! thanks for showing. Very impressed by the cleanliness of the engineroom and all the ancilliaries, not a speck of dust even

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Yes Sir! Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO

  • @doogssmee9742
    @doogssmee9742 4 роки тому +2

    Only one thing better looking than a clean engine room on a boat ...... and thats a clean engine room with all the piping colour coded to what the pipe carries.

    • @erikjohansson1814
      @erikjohansson1814 4 роки тому +2

      Doogs Smee Your requirements are low.
      Nothing beats polished brass pipes and engine components.
      But that is against class nowadays so little chance to see it. Unless museum.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +2

      Hahahah. You guy crack me up. Thank you so much for watching.

  • @view05nys
    @view05nys 4 роки тому +1

    I came across your videos a week ago, enjoying them very much. I have been binge watching them this past week. My grandfather worked on a tugboat in New York harbor when I was very young. Around 7 years old. I am 75 years old now, but still remember him taking me on the boat back then. Very impressionable world on a young child. I do remember the noise in the engine room. It seems like in this video you are not wearing ear protection in a high noise environment. Please be safe.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Chaz. What wonderful memories you have of your grandfather. Very cool. I had the inserted earplugs in for that video. When you get to the engine room tour of the 4200 HP tug, you will find that you are not the only one that was concerned. Thank you again for watching.

  • @dancrovo9805
    @dancrovo9805 3 роки тому +1

    Another old navy man....was an engineman on a WWII vintage diesel/electric submarine in the late 60’s. Fairbanks Morse 38D 8 1/8 10 cylinder opposed piston rock crushers. Impressed with the cleanliness and ROOM. Nice engine room and video. Just subscribed.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Welcome aboard Dan. Thank you for watching and subscribing. CUOTO

  • @royallclark6331
    @royallclark6331 4 роки тому +1

    Seeing your engine room reminds me of an excursion vessel I was on for a day trip in Vancouver, BC. She was 65' long and it had a very wide beam. I happened to bump into the engineer, and talked my way into a tour of the engine room while underway. I was really surprised when I got down the ladder and found two Cat 3208's just screaming in the middle of this very large and open engineering space that dwarfed those Cats!!. She was spinning 3' props through reduction gears.... the tour was the best part of the trip! Thanks for taking us onboard!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you again for watching. You may enjoy the tour of a 4200 hp Tugboat I did as well.

  • @grosseileracingteam
    @grosseileracingteam 3 роки тому +1

    Glad they put power steering for you on that bad boy. Cool video. Thanks for posting Tim.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching. Oh yes. Our rudder are each bigger than a barn door and with the engines hooked up in a twist, i don't think there is a man alive that could hold the wheel hard over. CUOTO

  • @supercuda1950
    @supercuda1950 2 роки тому +1

    It's amazing how clean everything is. I watch the tugs here go up and down the Ohio river. I wish I could, see more. Great video.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Rupert. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO

  • @mikec6868
    @mikec6868 4 роки тому +1

    That was a very interesting tour! I work for a chemical company and they would never allow a tour of our plant. The engine room looks very clean and well organized. A must for a safe work environment! Great tour Captain!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching the Mike. You may also like to see the tour of a 4200 hp engine room on my channel.

  • @TimsBitsnPieces
    @TimsBitsnPieces 3 роки тому +1

    With regards to your shaft breaks, I was always taught and still teach others.. to count 2 seconds from throttle down in neutral before engaging forward or reverse to assist in this issue and to help the motor and couplings from ripping each other apart. That is one of the best and cleanest looking engine rooms I have ever seen. A very brief but informative tour of your engine room.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Tim. Our reverse gears has a safety built into them that even without shaft breaks, they will not go into gear untill the shaft has stopped moving regardless of your throttle position. CUOTO

  • @radarwill
    @radarwill 4 роки тому +22

    If people don't know, let me just say that has to be one of the cleanest engine rooms on the water!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +9

      Thank you! But we all try to take care of what takes care of us. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

    • @ccsmallengines
      @ccsmallengines 4 роки тому +3

      I've worked on a few yachts this size that make this engine room look dirty. I've been in engine rooms that look like clean rooms. Shoes not allowed. Not saying this engine room isnt clean. Quite impressive for a commercial vessel.

    • @radarwill
      @radarwill 4 роки тому +2

      @@ccsmallengines Bullshit. No boat on the water looks cleaner than this. Maybe their room is bigger bun not cleaner. I know you want to seem like a big shot on youtube, but making stupid comments is not the way!!!!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +3

      @@ccsmallengines oh yes. There is a big difference between something that cost money and something that makes money. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

    • @ccsmallengines
      @ccsmallengines 4 роки тому +3

      @@radarwill not trying to sound like a big shot. I work on a lot of expensive high end yachts, the kind that has crew members scrub down the engine room weekly, but not all the time. I spent most of yesterday in a disgusting bilge in a smaller fishing boat face to face with a leaky head tank.

  • @MrCatcracker
    @MrCatcracker 4 роки тому +1

    You have a very strong knowledge of rotating equipment ,especially its functionality & ratings. Kudos to you Captain Tim.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Why thank you Barry. That was very nice of you to say.

  • @arnenelson4495
    @arnenelson4495 4 роки тому +1

    Thanx for a great video. In the 60's and 70's my dad and I always got to visit the engine room on ships and ferries between Seattle and Skagway. We were given a used piston ring 21" in diameter- a great keepsake! The mv Wickersham had 2 MAN engines, 10,000 hp each, painted white, big as a house, in a spotless, white engine room. I love engine rooms!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Very cool. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @LtgRogerAirgood
    @LtgRogerAirgood 4 роки тому +6

    When I was a kid, my dad would take me down every couple months to the tug boat (a standby tug) and I'd go aboard and the crew was always nice enough to feed us lunch and I'd get to play on the boat (under supervision of course). The engine room was always my favorite. That contract later got picked up by Crowley who were giant doushes and wouldn't even let you get on the same dock as the boat.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      What a beautiful memory? Yes times have changed. My kids and family can't, as you say, even get on the same dock as the boat.

  • @zayjayspray7559
    @zayjayspray7559 4 роки тому +1

    I'm a Truck and coach mechanic in Ontario. I like my job end everything but this stuff... way more interesting!! It may be my next career if I get bored of what I'm doing now! Super cool video!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and please consider Subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. You make like to see my video "How to work on a Tugboat".

  • @MichChief
    @MichChief 3 роки тому +1

    Capt., I've have viewed a fair amount of your videos, and while they are all excellent, this one is by far my favorite so far. I have spent over 20 years of life in vessel enginerooms (predominately tugs) on the west coast, east coast and Great Lakes. First I would like to compliment you on the cleanliness and organization of the engineroom. It would be a pleasure to work there. I even noticed how nice the pilothouse appeared at the start of the video. Along with your pleasant disposition, I am sure your crew must appreciate how good their work environment is. Second, I was impressed with your knowledge during the engineroom tour. I believe that knowledge makes you even a better Captain and boat handler than most. Finally, your company should be proud they have such a respectable and positive spokesperson. You are doing them a beneficial service.
    Oh, I live just outside of New Haven.....if you even need a relief engineer.
    Fair Wind and Following Seas.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you very much for watching and for the kind words Mich. But I really must point out that I am in no way speaking for or representing the company. I know that you are saying wonderful and positive things, but I will not be allowed to continue to film content if I am seen as being anything other than an employee that is using UA-cam as a creative outlet. Thank you again for watching. CUOTO

    • @MichChief
      @MichChief 3 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea
      My apologies for possibly endangering your creative outlet. I do see it as a creative outlet only....period.
      Keep them coming and stay safe.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      @@MichChief Thank you very much Mich

  • @pbourd
    @pbourd 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! Chock full of goodies. I’m impressed how small the propellor drive shafts are to drive those 72”(?) props. The single screw drive bearing at Jakobsen seemed enormous in the ‘60s.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Peter. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO

  • @CrazyPetez
    @CrazyPetez 4 роки тому +1

    It’s amazing to me what a complex machine a tug boat is. I enjoyed the tour of the engine room.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing. You may also like the video I have on a tour of a 4200 HP tug.

  • @jake4514
    @jake4514 4 роки тому +5

    I just hit the subscribe button, Capt. Thank you for some great videos! I've had the good fortune of being on a few sea trials for various types of tugs and I can say that your videos are about as close as it gets to actually being on the boat. Noises and all, which makes for a great experience. Keep them coming, I'll be watching all of them! I work for the company that engineered and manufactured the wheels that are under your boat. We're forever grateful to be able to work with Vane Bros.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching and the kind words. It makes all the difference. Really do appreciate it. Thank you.

  • @tobysettle8595
    @tobysettle8595 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the tour Cap! Really appreciate the clarity in explanation. Very cool, the tug looks squared away and well maintained.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Toby. Be sure to see the video of the 4200 HP engine room. CUOTO

  • @RelativeAnt
    @RelativeAnt 2 роки тому +1

    Great tour, Tim. Beautiful, clean engine room, too - props to your deckhands and engineers. I work on the Columbia River, so it’s always cool to see you guys do your thing on the other coast. Cheers

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Jackson. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO

  • @patrickcraig6032
    @patrickcraig6032 4 роки тому +1

    A big thank you for the tour.Nice clean engine room.Cat and Twin-Disc is a great combination.The 65' foot tug I was on had a Cat D379,500hp single screw.She never let us down.Keel cooling a big plus in the ice.All the best.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Oh yes Sir! Thank you for watching.

  • @Cinthyafs_
    @Cinthyafs_ 4 роки тому +1

    I wish I had you as an instructor when I was engine cadet. You were born to teach! You are wonderful! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for that Cinthya. It really means alot to me and I really appreciate it. Thank you for watching and for being one of the only %3 of my viewers that are not male. Lol Tell your friends!

  • @heinzdoerbaum2987
    @heinzdoerbaum2987 4 роки тому +2

    This is exactly how a Engineroom should look like! Bright, clean and tidy. Compliments to you and your team. CUOTO

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you very much Heinz. CUOTO

  • @1919champ
    @1919champ 4 роки тому +3

    Really ship shape spaces. No oil anywhere, all gear stowed, very nice. Good job Captain keeping it that way! Enjoy your videos very much. Thanks.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you so much for the kind words. But that is really the work of my Engineer and his relief on the other crew. They do good work. Thank you for watching and watching and please consider subscribing.

    • @rayg9069
      @rayg9069 4 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea A good Captain appreciates a good crew.

  • @vetterfellow
    @vetterfellow 3 роки тому +1

    Appreciated the tour. Thank - you Tim, I like the quiet end of the job, topside.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Me too!! 😂 Thank you for watching. CUOTO

  • @PanzerDave
    @PanzerDave 4 роки тому +6

    Great video. That is a very clean engine room! Thanks for the tour and I could hear everything. The noise adds a lot of authenticity too!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you. That's what I was thinking.

  • @Fran-rp3lp
    @Fran-rp3lp 4 роки тому +7

    I'm studying to become a Marine engineer and your channel is great, keep it up!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Fran! Best of luck to you. Please consider Subscribing.

  • @chrissaffel9065
    @chrissaffel9065 3 роки тому +1

    Tim, I’m a recreational boater in the Seattle area, but have always had a fascination with tugs, and am endlessly curious about their operations. Thank you so much these wonderful little trips into your world! What a find! Thank you, thank you! (And yes, I’ll likely buy some TimB merch to show off on my old Egg Harbor)😎

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you very much for Chris! CUOTO

  • @ivoryjohnson4662
    @ivoryjohnson4662 3 роки тому +1

    Very educational I could hear you just fine. Nice clean well organized engine room

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching. CUOTO

  • @tedparr3038
    @tedparr3038 3 роки тому +1

    I really enjoyed seeing the engine room tour. It was very interesting and I learned allot. I like the fact that the engine room is so clean and organized. Cats are great engines. Thanks Tim. Oh by the way I am a retired engineer from the U.S. Coast Guard. Yep, 34 great years. Keep up the safe work.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Ted and thank you for your service. CUOTO

  • @n6mz
    @n6mz 4 роки тому +1

    That is one CLEAN engine room ... says a lot about the engineer and the company.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      It certainly does! (I like to think the captain sets the precedent high for the crew to follow). Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

    • @n6mz
      @n6mz 4 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea sorry yes I should have mentioned the captain. My head was below the waterline.

  • @oldmill322
    @oldmill322 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent Tim, I am still working my way through all of your videos, you do a fantastic job of explaining how things work.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you very much Richard!

  • @TheCLPVideos
    @TheCLPVideos 4 роки тому +1

    So sad that the days are gone when a man could make a good living and own his own boat. Good luck to you, and thanks for sharing.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.

  • @dredgesp
    @dredgesp 4 роки тому +1

    Good tour of the engine room. Good explanations of the components and how things work.
    Your voice was understandable.
    Thanks

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Don. You may also like to see the engine room tour I did on a 4200 hp Tugboat. Same Engines but with 4 more cylinders.

  • @dannyv2335
    @dannyv2335 4 роки тому +1

    It’s so clean, you’d think that a machine that runs 24/7 would accumulate some dirt/grease. Bravo on keeping a tight ship Cap.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      That is because my Engineer works almost 24/7 taking care of things down there. I'll be sure to show him your kind words. If you haven't already, please consider subscribing.

  • @jmccracken491
    @jmccracken491 4 роки тому +2

    Tim, This is wonderful you are taking time to explain things about your work to us.
    I am going to try to set your videos in a saved file on here for future use.
    I never worked Tug Boats or Tow Boats either. Would love to spend a day on one.
    Just as a observer I find these thing highly interesting.
    Tell your employer thanks from me to them for allowing you to do this.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and if you subscribe (its quick and free) you will always have access to my content. Thank you again!

  • @a-fl-man640
    @a-fl-man640 3 роки тому +1

    nice tour and your knowledge of all the systems is impressive. clean engine room.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you very much for watching. You might like the other engine room tour I did on a 4200 HP tug. It's very similar but each engine had 4 more cylinders. CUOTO

  • @joemears565
    @joemears565 4 роки тому +1

    17 years that was my domain, loved ever day of it. Had 2 379 cats and 2 342 cat gen sets DC not ac . Miss it. Thanks for the tour

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching.

  • @fletcher3913
    @fletcher3913 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the tour, I enjoyed it. Props to the Engineers for the clean engine room.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.

  • @farmerbrown3768
    @farmerbrown3768 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the tour. That 3512 Cat was built in Lafayette, Indiana, Caterpillar builds several different arrangements of engines serving power needs for Marine, construction, electrical power generating, oil field and a horizon of other uses.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Cool. I didn't know that. But I do know they did do a great job!

  • @56PapaBear56
    @56PapaBear56 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the tour. Ait starters also save weight as the air starter is lighter plus you don't have to have the weight of the batteries and wiring for the starting circuit.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  2 роки тому

      Very true. Thank you for watching. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO

  • @flyfliker
    @flyfliker 4 роки тому +1

    Very similar to a yacht engine room. Was an engineer on a 130' sailing yacht and the big difference is space to work. Thanks for the video,

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

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  • @pvcarmon1
    @pvcarmon1 4 роки тому +1

    I remember Union 76 fuel tanker trucks used to use air starters probably the most robust starting system but were phased out because they would startle customers. Great video.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching. In next week's video, you'll see and hear us start the mains. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already.

  • @warrensturtevant7945
    @warrensturtevant7945 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely done! How and Whys, high tech and low tech, not to forget, Brakes. I like it!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Warren. If you are new to the channel, welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO

  • @denault3985
    @denault3985 4 роки тому +1

    Wow, the engine room is so clean and organized...way cleaner than the ships featured in "The Deadliest Catch."
    Shows how professional the company runs it's operation!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

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  • @weighit
    @weighit 4 роки тому +3

    How interesting and Thank you for taking the effort and time to try and show us what it is that makes those boats move and run. Yes I could understand and hear you with the generator operating, sounded like music to me!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

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  • @9467766
    @9467766 4 роки тому +5

    That’s a nice engine room, I currently run a crew boat in the Gulf of Mexico and we have 4 cat 3512-B and 2 Cummins 6bt generators

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Sweet! Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @chrisjones2149
    @chrisjones2149 4 роки тому +1

    Hello from the UK! Really love the content, yours is a world I know nothing about so I really thank you for taking the time to make and post these facinating videos. Keep up the good work! P.s. a big thank you to your employers as well for allowing you the freedom to make these!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching!

  • @masonjones3780
    @masonjones3780 4 роки тому +1

    great video. that loud engine noise reminds me of when I used to work for a marine supply/ship chandler back in the 90's. we supplied tankers ,container ships, bulk tankers and tugs. loved going on ships. got to really see all of the ships. engine rooms are definitely loud.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

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    • @masonjones3780
      @masonjones3780 4 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea already am a subscriber. keep up the good content

  • @robertcoplin2830
    @robertcoplin2830 4 роки тому +1

    You got a good company. I'd like to hear all that one on one to ask questions as I go. Sounds interesting. Like the mini maintenance shop.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Robert and welcome to the channel. Please consider subscribing as I try to post new content every Tuesday. You may also like the engine room tour of a 4200 I did and our shipyard video series.

  • @LincolnSixAlpha
    @LincolnSixAlpha 4 роки тому +2

    Really clean engine room!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      My chief engineer does a good job! Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @dardyole3967
    @dardyole3967 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Tim, Great tour, I work on Cat and Komatsu dump trucks, love it that you talked over the engines, cause thats how it done in the work place.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you!!! I've been getting some pushback on my decision to not do a talk over. Thank you for watching.

  • @lowtus7
    @lowtus7 4 роки тому +2

    Beautiful engine bay for a tug, not what I was expecting.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

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  • @tamar5261
    @tamar5261 4 роки тому +1

    As an ex marine engineer I could almost smell the fumes at the top of the engine room steps. Awesome video.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for watching. Well Chief, it is only my stupid opinion but I really believe that since we have moved to ultra low sulfur diesel, I don't think the boats smell as bad. (And there are less and less "smoking boats") Please consider subscribing.

  • @vechnyak
    @vechnyak 4 роки тому +1

    Great video like all the others. I'm a sailor and sail frequently in the Raritan and lower NY bays. I see you and other tugs all the time. What an amazing opportunity to see inside and learn more about what you do. Subscribed to your channel so not to miss anything

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for watching and Subscribing.bi really appreciate it.

  • @joemears565
    @joemears565 4 роки тому +2

    My favorite place on any boat or ship, sounds like home to me

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Joe. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already.

  • @glenkelley6048
    @glenkelley6048 4 роки тому +2

    TimBatSea is a UA-cam Genius----a true Master of video production. Thanks so much Tim for a fine presentation. Please know that I do not know Tim, and have never met him or sailed on the same vessel with him. Thanks again Tim for a great vid.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the kind words. I am trying to get better. New videos every Tuesday. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @edmullins4519
    @edmullins4519 4 роки тому +1

    Well done sir! Very informative and super cool video. The technology in today’s workboats is absolutely amazing. It always amazes me me that engineers can get all those components in such small places and make it work to boot! Thanks for the tour. Be safe out there!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

    • @edmullins4519
      @edmullins4519 4 роки тому +1

      TimBatSea already subscribed a few weeks back! LoL

  • @steveschwartz6138
    @steveschwartz6138 4 роки тому +1

    That is a beautiful and clean tug.

  • @SleepyJoe1973
    @SleepyJoe1973 4 роки тому +9

    Impressively quiet generators. My ships have Detroit 16-71's. The main engines are actually quieter then the gens. (Fairbanks Morse 12cyl OP). Awesome video, cool to see how similar ships really are.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +5

      Very cool. We all loved the reliability of the 71 series, but those screaming 2 strokes have been the cause of many a sailors deafness. Thank you for watching

    • @rayg9069
      @rayg9069 4 роки тому +4

      @@TimBatSea Not only sailors deafness :-) I worked for GM as a field electrical tech in Australia, left them nearly 20 years back, still go to sleep every night with 71's screaming in my ears.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +4

      Oh yes. They are screamers!

    • @FlatBroke612
      @FlatBroke612 4 роки тому +2

      Sailed with 4xFBM opposed 10cyl years ago. Man, the blowers were some noisy but enjoyed working with those engines. More recently worked on a 3608, it was the biggest POS I’ve ever seen. I’ll stick to my Sulzers pls.

    • @rayg9069
      @rayg9069 4 роки тому

      @@FlatBroke612 I met some very early 3608's way back around '95 ish, they had a funny habit of filling the sump with ground up big end bearings.
      FMs always impressed but I never had the pleasure of meeting one in person.

  • @Mrsnichols1965
    @Mrsnichols1965 4 роки тому +1

    I'm re-watching these, and found it amusing that your Cat's are so big they need air starting. Frame of reference is that I worked with EMD 567 (CID per cyl.) and Alco 539 (first run in May 1939, 12" bore x13" stroke) and they used the loco batteries to turn the generator as a motor. I think the reasoning is that your tug carries more diverse power sources and air is a much smaller system. It is also likely more efficient than huge batteries and a motor that is capable of the job, since you don't have a generator bolted to your flywheel, lol
    Also of interest is the block heating. In the Alco 539, the block is a huge two piece casting with a table crank. The cast iron isn't always perfectly water tight, and antifreeze chews on bearings, so its just water cooled. Shutting down overnight is a bad idea. Worse though, is not shutting down. Idle speed is about 350RPM, so the engine doesn't burn fuel completely and raw fuel lays in the exhaust manifold. Next day, after warm up and shouldering into a set of loads she'll throw sparks into that exhaust manifold, and turn the stack into a blow torch. On the EMD 567's, the block is a set of welded plates, so the same leak possibilities exist. But even more so, the two cycle system has a huge airbox that collects condensation if the block isn't kept warm. Each cylinder has a test cock that is opened and the engine cranked to remove the water. But imagine if for some reason she sucked in a good amount of condensation. Power assemblies aren't cheap, lol So block heating is a necessity.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching (again). I used to work on a boat that had EMDs and the pre-lube pump had to be run while the engineers would blow down the engines. We never had to change oil on them. We just added about 10 to 15 gallons a day to each of them. (we did change the filters though). #CUOTO

    • @Mrsnichols1965
      @Mrsnichols1965 4 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea Funny story about oil change.... on the 539's the oil was changed when a sample came back that indicated the oil was either contaminated or worn out. My dad, my boss at the time, said, "reach in there and open the drain valve. " I'm looking under the loco for a drain cock... no luck. "Oh, its in the sump. Roll up your sleeves, its in that second access opening, about a foot under the oil level." Thanks Dad, thanks a lot. lol

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      @@Mrsnichols1965 Hahahah. Cleaning out the air boxes leaves one rather dirty.

  • @James-seafan
    @James-seafan 2 роки тому +1

    interesting engine room tour thank you tim

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching James. CUOTO

  • @davidbolduc828
    @davidbolduc828 4 роки тому +1

    Wonderful tour of the engine room. Learned a bunch.

  • @alexgoldstein7553
    @alexgoldstein7553 4 роки тому +2

    some really cool tech and engineering. Thanks for sharing with us!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @alanhorton3416
    @alanhorton3416 4 роки тому +1

    This was very interesting. Thank you. Nice to know what drives the boat.
    Alan Horton

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Alan. If you are new to the channel, welcome. Please consider Subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO

  • @TheFlatlander440
    @TheFlatlander440 4 роки тому +12

    Awesome engine room tour. I was thinking you could have done a voice over on the vid so it would be easier to hear you speaking. All in all, it turned out great. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you so much for that. Yes, I consider doing a voiceover. Then I thought that the best thing would be to give you a real tour in person. So that leaf me into thinking that if you were there with me, that is what you would hear. But maybe I will have a slow week one day and go back and redo it. Thank you for watching.

    • @PanzerDave
      @PanzerDave 4 роки тому +4

      @@TimBatSea You may also wish to consider subtitles. Either way it was a great tour!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you for watching

  • @JamesEDennison
    @JamesEDennison 4 роки тому +1

    We use the Kobelco shaft seals like that on our boats as well.... we put a spare seal in before the shaft goes in so if you need to you can inflate the bladder and change the seal without the need to separate the shaft from the gearbox..... imagine you guys do the same.... could hear you fine.... but I'm used to the generator sounds.... nice video

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      That is correct. They gave us an extra on both shafts and said that if we ever went through both, they can glue a 2 piece one together but it cost almost as much as hauling the boat. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @timdemarco5079
    @timdemarco5079 4 роки тому +7

    Pretty neat stuff, my dad worked on your tug. He was the engineer 👍

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +3

      That is so cool. Thank you for watching. Please give my best to your Dad!

    • @timdemarco5079
      @timdemarco5079 4 роки тому +2

      TimBatSea I certainly will👍

  • @rogerdeves1511
    @rogerdeves1511 4 роки тому

    Thanks Tim very clean & well maintained, looks like a good company to work for

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Roger. Please consider Subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday. I also have an engine room tour of our 3000s too.

  • @charlietanner6211
    @charlietanner6211 4 роки тому +1

    excellant tour you are a true tug boat man quite knowageble you have the best air compressors built quincy and cat diesel engines that little jd looks out of place thanks for tour sounds like you work for a great co how often do they change oil in drive engines?

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      We schedule main Engine oil change every 4000 hours, but there is a catch. My chief takes oil samples all the time and sends them to the lab. If the results come back suggesting we need to change oil, we do. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.

  • @justjoe7313
    @justjoe7313 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for doing the tour, it's very rare that we can look below the deck.
    Would be great if you could add subtitles/captions, would realy help with understanding!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you Joe for watching and please consider subscribing. I'll see what I can do.

  • @mikeforce5926
    @mikeforce5926 3 роки тому +1

    Great video.You did a great job explaining everything and i heard you just fine.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much Michael. I get a lot of people saying that I should have shut the generator down so you could hear me better. But I don't think they understand that the boat goes dark if the generators aren't on line. 😂 CUOTO

    • @mikeforce5926
      @mikeforce5926 3 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea I always wanted to see the engines in a tug.Thanks

  • @geofham8332
    @geofham8332 4 роки тому +3

    Hi, thanks for the info. Always wondered what was pulling my Shell Oil tanker around the seas.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you have not already. We are one of the few boats in NYC/NJ harbor that are vetted for shell work. So I guess we are somehow related. Lol. Stay safe my brother.

  • @swanvalleymachineshop
    @swanvalleymachineshop 4 роки тому +1

    Great tour . I have rebuilt alot of those engines in the mining sector . Cheers .

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Cool! You'd say you've skinned done cats? Lol. Thank you so much for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @actemple3282
    @actemple3282 4 роки тому +1

    super cool extreamly clean ...much cleaner than my semi truck engine great job

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      That's because you have to drive and do the maintenance on your truck. We have an engineer and that's all he does. Be safe out there.

    • @actemple3282
      @actemple3282 4 роки тому

      @@TimBatSea awwww that would be nice ..I am sitting at a truck stop in miami right now ..watching all your videos ...no one to clean my engine here LOL

  • @rickhirst3760
    @rickhirst3760 4 роки тому

    Gives me chills to see that stuff again. Good job!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Rick.

  • @keithmckinnon7047
    @keithmckinnon7047 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Tim, thanks for the kool info. vidz. I am wondering if any of the newer boats run by engines turning gens that run electric motors? One of our trucks where I was employed was a 1966 Mack with air start. Interesting tour.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Keith. If you are new to the channel, welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. I have heard that there were some diesel electric tugs around many years ago, but I've never seen one. CUOTO

  • @randyclyde4939
    @randyclyde4939 3 роки тому +1

    Captain, thanks for the tour! Your engineer and crew deserve a great thanks for keeping the engine room clean and tidy! Still working on getting through your videos... LOL this is lots of computer time for me and I'm enjoying every minute!
    #CUOTO

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  3 роки тому

      That's great Randy. CUOTO

  • @richardbohlingsr3490
    @richardbohlingsr3490 4 роки тому +1

    Nice and shipshape, well taken care of. Nice to be working on well maintained equipment. Redundancy,, nice to have if your tied to a loaded fuel barge and adrift with no control.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Yes Sir! Thank you for watching.

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite 4 роки тому +1

    So... those indentations you mentioned... is that where the sea water flows through a kind of radiator to cool the actual coolant that circulates into and cools the engines, pumps, etc?
    Hope your hearing is OK.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Exactly. There are three sets of heat exchangers on each side, 1 big one for the main, one for the reduction gear, and one for the generator. You can see them much better in my videos in the shipyard series while we are out of the water.

  • @Masonkoe
    @Masonkoe 4 роки тому +2

    Very interesting I have a buddy who works for Kirby in south LA cool to finally see all he has been talking about!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @leardi58
    @leardi58 4 роки тому +1

    Very very interesting thanks for sharing. Place is kept immaculate excellent job explaining everything thank you again 👍

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing.

  • @jacebigelow
    @jacebigelow 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Tim, that was a great video and i was able to understand all of your narratives. I love tugboats and ship's engine rooms. I sub'd to your channel a few months ago when i realized you work in NY. I live in upstate NY and go on a couple cruises per year, sailing with Norwegian from pier 88. I've probly seen your tugboat !! Will def be keeping a sharper eye out. Thank you for all that you do.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      That makes me so happy and feel like it is worthwhile. Yes, we do go in to 88 often ,(usually back the barge into the slip). The tide runs very hard at times there and en ebb tide makes it a "not so fun" job. Thank you for watching and subscribing!

  • @powderflint
    @powderflint 4 роки тому +3

    Did old model shaft seals leak a small amount of water continuously ? Thanks again for a good video !

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +3

      Yes, but they had to for cooling. If the engineer tightened the stuffing box down so much as to stop the drip, the shaft heats up and starts to burn the packing. Thank you for watching.

  • @edshelden7590
    @edshelden7590 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent tour. Do,the CAT engines use a lot of lube oil, like 2 cycle engines?

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Ed, and please consider subscribing if you haven't already. CATs are usually very good when it comes to oil consumption. They are four stroke and use little to no oil.

  • @josephalvarez9920
    @josephalvarez9920 4 роки тому +1

    Would love to see a tour of the entire boat if possible

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already. I'll try to put one together for you

  • @michaelrice500
    @michaelrice500 4 роки тому +1

    I started a KTA-38 Cummins V--12 main with a bicycle pump once. Compressors were shot and three days in shipment from town. Air starters are great!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому +1

      Wow! That's a new one for me. Very cool. About 20 years ago I was working on deck on a tug with EMDs and our compressors were both down as well. The captain had another tug tow us "hooked up" (as fast as we could go). Then he put one engine in gear (that boat had no shaft brakes) and the water going by the wheels was enough to start them up. Thank you for watching.

    • @michaelrice500
      @michaelrice500 4 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea Hey, that's even better! I used to joke about having to get a push start, I should just shut up! I just rigged up a fitting to the tank with a check valve and started pumping. Took awhile. I didn't want to try it until I was sure it was going to work. Tide was ebbing, of course, so we were going to get stuck. That little pump got pretty hot. We took turns.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Wow. That is crazy cool! Good job!

    • @arnenelson4495
      @arnenelson4495 4 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea are you saying you can bump start a boat? I must not be understanding this........

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      The old, EMDs with airflex clutches and no shaft brakes, you could. Probably won't work on today's computer controlled engines and certainly not with shaft brakes.

  • @robnewell6123
    @robnewell6123 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the engine room tour Cap., very interesting. incredible engineering. For major in-frame or replacement engine work, how are the large components removed from and loaded into the engine room? Are there are deck hatches directly above for crane access? They are not apparent from camera views of the deck.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Rob and please consider subscribing. There are pad eyes throughout the engine room. Components are chain hoisted up and moved from pad eye to pad eye.

  • @bobainsworth5057
    @bobainsworth5057 4 роки тому +1

    It's funny to see a deck in engineering and not bilges. Also very clean as the rest of the boat.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Bob. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO

  • @MinhLe-xb9ii
    @MinhLe-xb9ii 2 роки тому +1

    I've been following your videos and they are all informative, I like all the details about tug boat. I noticed all tug boats sitting low in the water and been questioning what make tug boat sitting low in the water ? you've mentioned in this video the tug is sitting 8ft below the water so would all the weight of the engines, equipment's and fuels have sufficient mass to keep the tug below the water or the tug needs additional ballast ?

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching. No. We carry no additional ballast other than fuel. But it's substantial. Our little boat carries 57,000 gallons. The 4200s carry around 88,000 gallons. (That's like 330 tons of fuel alone). CUOTO

    • @MinhLe-xb9ii
      @MinhLe-xb9ii 2 роки тому +1

      @@TimBatSea Thank you for your response.

  • @carstengrove6214
    @carstengrove6214 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for letting me know you had a video on engine room, well informed thanks

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  4 роки тому

      There are two, one on the 3000s and one on the 4200s. CUOTO