You’re forcing yourself to like this because of the channel it comes from. Atleast be honest , this ain’t no jfk or jack the ripper video . This is a filler video I hope .
@@mazef8836 that Jack the Ripper video is one of THE best true crime documentaries ever made . Way better than the ones put out on TV or Netflix even. I usually skip Jack the Ripper videos because it’s been done so much but the visuals he used in it to map out the crimes is perfect . He somehow got the environment of Victorian England to come through on an animated UA-cam documentary.
Bro taught Vigenère & other ciphers in a more engaging way than what I learned during my CS Engineering Cryptography course at Uni. Excellent video man.
This video would be a great lab exercise. Give undergrads a computer eventually but challenge them with pen-and-paper. Frequency analysis is so useful it motivates the fancy stuff. If you're interested, look at Shannon's 1948 paper -- it's challenging but written clearly.
Nah, my cousins girlfriend's college roommate said that she solved it and gave your friend Eric a fake solution because he wouldn't stop asking her about it
The deliberate misspellings to throw off codebreaking attempts is one of those things that I love because it can either be a clue or a complete red herring.
It’s still blows my mind that I was watching ‘Best Rage Comics’ on this channel in 2012ish and now he’s putting out this top tier quality stuff. I feel like I grew up with this channel now.
With the morse code, the RQ at the end (.-. --.-) is actually probably meant to be CQ (-.-. --.-) - When a tapper taps out CQ CQ CQ, they are asking "Can anyone hear me?" or "Is someone receiving?" So, CQ SOS "Can anyone hear me?" "I need help!"
CQ is used the same way in Ham Radio, as well as most military situations iirc, usually when using morse code or long distance comms, that's a good catch! i'm a ham and didn't even notice it!
31:45 "T IS YOUR POSITION" -> So "you" are at "T" -> VIR"TU"ALLY is the only instance of a U at a T -> the letters immediately following it are the ALLYINVI for ABSCISSA
Also randomly noted that the iqlusion typo coincides with the extra L on the text and maybe we can suppose that in the last sentence the Q near the question mark is just a simple substitution for the L. Also i think that the question mark is intended as a visual representation of a letter or of a word in some culture related to the rest of the text
This also implies that there isn't any "cut out part" - this was the intended sentence. Nice spot, this definitely deserves to be higher in the comments so Lemmino can see it!
LEMMiNO is seriously the gold standard for documentaries/ video essays. The amount of production, research, and effort is so apparent and incredible. Im honestly suprised he can put out the number of videos he does
believe it or not, i was one of your viewers 10 years ago and just forgot the channel as i used new account. now some other youtuber brought your name and I just remembered you . so much memories in this channel, thank you
The fact that we've been at this for 33 years, with the first three being solved relatively instantly while the 4th one is still unsolved makes me think that Sanborn is literally just trolling us, and he's just gonna tell us all on his deathbed that he was kidding this whole time and it's all just gibberish.
The guy is 3 weeks older than my grandpa. My grandpa, a train mechanic with an average pension and heart disease from an ex-comunist country, is still holding, so a guy like Jim, who could who has much more money and who could get access to much more professional health care won't die anytime soon.
I tend to agree with this. I am not an expert cryptographer but I have been invested in the topic from a young age, especially around the history of famous codes. One thing that I learnt is that any sort of code that takes this long to break, is simply a troll. Any method of encryption that a human mind can use, even one that they created themselves not based upon an already existing cypher, is reversible or the plain text can be extracted. There is in fact no event in history since the 60s where actually decryptable code, has remained encrypted for this long before being found out. Every single time it's either that the text was never meant to be something that can be decrypted. The fact Kryptos K4 stays not even extracted for this long when we have machines and information like we do today, meanwhile the entire other part of Kryptos was decrypted in just 2 days by a bunch of interns, is proof that the entire puzzle has no solution. Nothing to be obtained at the end or understood. Like Sanborn said in interviews, it's just a form of long art.
I'm an infosec/crypto nerd and the amount of research done here is insane. And the editing work. If I had to do just one of these sequences in After Effects, I'd cry. Amazing work here.
LEMMiNO - if you ever read this message, you're the best creator on UA-cam. And as HistoryDose stated your videos are "drop everything and watch this now" videos. Thank you.
I do like the conflict of the artist trying to design a puzzle to be solved in a certain way and the cryptographers finding their own way entirely. It shows a difference in mentality between artists and, well, nerds.
There is also the realistic necessity for NSA cryptography guys to avoid the "artist approach" - they very likely need to decipher codes in unfamiliar languages, or even languages that do not make their words (lexicon) with verbal alphabets, so the usage of maths is just them being professionals
There’s something fitting about the final cypher not being cracked despite the massive technological advances since the puzzle was created. Almost like the solution must be solved with this artistic mentality.
@@forgotultag1543 Yeah the thing is that whilst for a creator the solution may seem very doable, there are realistically billions of ways to creatively and artistically encode something. So trying to work based on that idea would be true brute force work and take way longer than using clever pattern recognition to bypass the encryption.
It very much reminds me of the battle between game devs and speedrunners. Game devs put so much thought into boss design and then a speedrunner comes equipped with a fish using a specific attack to do animation cancelling beating the boss by just spamming one button xD
Exactly what I was thinking. He had to have had some form of help/collaboration with the CIA right? There’s no way some random artist with no studies in Cryptology was able to create a code by himself, that not even the smartest code breakers in the world could crack.
Charlie Crook = CC = 33 Closed Captioning = CC = 33 I hope you guys see what's happening in the comments section? Web search term: _"The Open Scroll Code 33 article series"_ if you don't know what I'm on about.
The fact that he said in a recording that he's not very good at math and that he loves putting out misinformation and scramble decipher attempts using extra letters or intentional misspellings, and of course the fact that he said that he's getting impatient that nobody can solve K4 can be pointing towards just pure trolling in general. He said that he wanted to make something to practically immortalize his name. K4 could very well just be gibberish and he's one of the worlds biggest trolls.
But would you rather want to be immortalized by gibberish, or by genuine code that nobody can crack? It doesn't have to be gibberish to be virtually uncrackable.
@@lonestarr1490 I mean yeah, if you just throw enough cyphers at the same piece of text repeatedly, you can get something that is virtually uncrackable. Its not a particularly good or interesting from a codebreaking challenge point of view, but wouldn't be surprised if he did it.
@@lonestarr1490 but does anyone seriosuly believe that the guy was actually let in on something top secret/important and they just let him just share it all with everyone, even though in a decryptc form. We are living in the world that doesn't make much sense. It's all non-sense. And he might've just (arguably) immortalized himself as the biggest troll in the history of humankind?
@@andysandy3465 I have no idea where you pulled the "top secret/important" from. Did anyone suggest that K4 might held some form of secret information? I'm not aware of such a statement.
The fact you had to learn and understand this first, in order to be able to create this content and explain it to us is just incredible dedication. You're the absolute GOAT, never stop doing these.
The clock mentioned in K4 might be the Berlin World Clock, as it has a compass under it, with one of the directions on it being ONO-Osten Nordosten or East North East in english which is also mentioned
Some interesting facts i have found; the original location of the Berlin Clock mentioned in the video was on the intersection of two streets: Kurfürstendamm and Uhlandstraße; the street called Kurfürstendamm is a EAST-NORTHEAST bound street which ends at the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church; notable places located EAST-NORTHEAST of the Berlin Clock: the embassy of the USA, Academy of Arts in Berlin and the Berlin Cathedral.
I am a little stunned that none of the solutions have anything to do with the fact that the puzzle is made of holes in a sheet of metal that will cast the letters on the floor infront of the sculpture which would reverse the rows as the bottom rows would now appear at the top in the shadow of the scroll. Sanborn has been talking about light and shadow in K1 and used such language when commenting about the puzzle as a whole. He specifically said that there are encoding systems that use light and shadow and that these systems are the ones he is most interested in. Yet, none of the solution paths have anything to do with this unique property of the puzzle.
Also, the double-curve nature of the sculpture would mean that one piece of the text would be projected in the morning, as the sun rises on the east side -- and the other would be more visible in the evening, as the sun sets on the west side. Harkens back to his apparent interest in ancient Egyptian design.
@efudesu9267 to the east of the subscribe button is the like button and to the northeast of the video is where the channel pop up at the end of the video on the video player is
Irish viewer here; I literally repeated “Scheidt” out loud and chuckled to myself as soon as you said the name, your interjection then straight after was the icing on the cake, thank you LEMMiNO 😂
Northern England here, love the word. I remember a Kevin Bridges bit when he said the main difference between "shit" and "shite" was that people have made "shit" positive now, i.e. "That's good shit" - but "shite" just means "shite". You can't have "good shite" 🤣
The thing I noticed the most while watching this is that Sanborn loves lining things up and making them symmetrical, only to add one or two things that "ruin" it. I feel like the morse code and the berlin clock "line up" in some way too, but I'm a complete idiot and I bet that's already been tried lol. Maybe rotating the clock/ morse code in a similar fashion to what was done previously? As per usual, this was a video that's an incredibly random topic-wise but still incredibly entertaining in a way that holds your attention for a longer period of time. Thank you!
Maybe, somehow, the coordinates for the clock can be cross-referenced to the coordinates in K2, and maybe even those of King Tut’s tomb. Just spitballing
for me it is the compass, the south arrow points east-northeast. Also i do not believe it is a hill cipher (requires some knowledge of matrix multiplication) and the extra 'L' is symmetrically placed.
two immediate observations/theories I have regarding K4 involve the idea that the KRYPTOS table itself might have to be altered to decode it, either by: A) Shifting the table down two rows so that the L on the left side is in line with the right hand one but keeping the horizontal position the same. B) flipping the table so the L is on the Left hand side (This could be done IRL by simply walking around to the other side of the statue) C) some combination of the two.
You never know what contribution might end up solving a problem like this. Experts and seasoned veterans of any profession faced with a problem often have tunnel vision, thinking about problems with the same set of solutions every time. The idiom "fresh set of eyes" didn't just show up one day, it was inducted into the English lexicon for a reason. Sometimes a problem requires the insight that a more basic or simple perspective provides.
Yeah, I think that's why there are so many superfluous Es they're just a pip/dit so they can be used to make the shape symmetrical and the RQ SOS ruins that. I think the R is a C there's only one dit difference C is dit-dah-dit-dah and R is dit-dah-dit-dah-dit CQ SOS means "I am sending a distress call" or "Have you heard my distress call?" Which I think refers to the Can you see Q?or Can you CQ? The artist wants to know if we've received his message.
Lemmino the kinda dude to show up out of thin air, say two sentences, and the next 40 minutes from that point is a complete mystery to you, cause you've been busy listening to whatever he got on his mind this time. Absolute masterpiece, love your videos!
My problem with Sanborn's keywords is the fact that even now, nobody could deduce 100% conclusive reasonings for finding "PALIMPSEST" and "ABSCISSA" with the available clues we have now. We have theories, but none of them seem very...right. Also just giving the answers of parts of the K4 plaintext doesn't really help if nobody knows HOW to get there in the first place. It's like giving the final answer to a complex maths question and then being asked how to get there.
And thus as we conclude watching the video, we crawl back into hibernation, waiting for the next episode to drop, knowing we will be excited and satisfied. Thank you LEMMiNO
Holy fuck, I can't believe it's been 9 months since the JFK video. I was in an awful place when that video came out, I watched it from my desk at a job that made me fat and miserable. I quit, went back to college full time, and started working out every day. I am so much happier and healthier right now. I hope everyone else has been doing well since the last upload :)
I honestly can't believe I get to watch these videos for free. The research, the smooth, purposeful, visuals. There isn't a single minute wasted. Outstanding. I'm glad you do what you do.
No exaggeration, I think this is my favorite Lemmino video till date. I love every video he puts out, but the ones about puzzles have a special touch to them
This guy integrated a "like, subscribe, and comment" clip without being annoying about it. That earns a like, subscription, and a comment. Great job Lemmino!
This is the most detailed explanation I've encountered about the Kryptos sculpture's encryption process. Appreciate your hard work in breaking down these complex details.
lol as an Irish viewer I laughed at the guys surname “Scheidt” then you said “ok I’m gonna let my Irish viewers process that surname” lol completely broke the 4th wall for me 😂
@@freebird_2 Well yes. Most YT vids do directly addresses their audience, it's common. However it's the level of cinematography of LEMMiNO's documentary that made people forgets it's just a YT video, not a cinema. It's an attest of LEMMiNO's quality work.
The talk about and masking the plaintext 44:10 with "layers" reminded me about the seemingly minuscule discovery of "x layer two" at 37:48. Just food for thought.
On the ? from K3 (36:08) I’m pretty sure it belongs to K4 because the Q probably represents the question mark in the tomb manuscript. Since X is being used to represent a period it would make sense to use letters for other punctuation. And as we know (especially since it was mentioned in the video) Q is one of the most uncommon letters which makes it a perfect candidate to represent “?”. I had a hunch when it was first mentioned at (23:35) but seeing the table basically confirms it.
@@judet2992 yes and this furthers the idea that K4 is written backwards. Or maybe in spanish, since questions in spanish start with a ? and end with a turned ?
31:00 - In morse code transmission, it is standard practice to parse an incorrect transmission with 5 “E’s”. Essentially it is to signify a false statement made on behalf of the operator.
@@dark_sunset I agree. I thought he had some profound message he wanted to hide, something important that would only be known by the best and smartest of us. But looking at the Morse code and the plaintext K1 through K3, the message doesn't seem to be anything in particular. It seems that this monument was made more as an art piece than a legitimate challenge. It was made to be spoken about and raise the public profile of the artist. But maybe this sort of challenge-without-reward situation appeals to those who enjoy the journey as opposed to the destination.
Lemmino has the kind of optimism not only to make a video about the cryptology equivalent to One Piece because he acquired an enjoyment for cryptology because of Cicada , but then do a call of action at the end. There are virtually no channels left on this website the size you are who are still doing this purely for the love of the sport. Thank you for everything you do. I've been here since top 10s and, with your level of artistic integrity, I'll be here for many more.
The one thing that stood out to me is: he had a background in archeology? He might have indeed not used a simple cypher technique, and instead intended for the thing to be cracked like hieroglyphs with some sort of roseta stone or like Asya did with her human, Yuri Knorozov when they cracked the Mayan script. That is to say it might be worth it to try it as a non English text. But I don’t know, I’m not a cryptographer in the slightest.
unrelated but I just fell down a rabbit hole about yuri knorozov, i had no idea who he was but i'm so interested in his work now. thank you! p.s. the berlin legend in his wiki page got me laughing about k4 (tho i'm sure it's a happy coincidence)
I just looked up Yuri Knorozov, I love this: "Knorozov listed his cat Asya as a co-author on his work, but the editors always removed her. He always used the photo with Asya (above) as his author photo, and got annoyed when editors cropped her out."
This passed through my mind. Not the archeology. I don't know shit about archeology lol. But why not throw another language in? It would make it more fun, no?
I think at the end it will point to a physical object or location. There are a lot of direction or coordinate based components and he definitely likes incorporating the physical. He talks about machines a bunch too and how they help break codes and how he likes that. Makes me think of the enigma machine which was invented in Germany (more later). IMO the whole puzzle reads more like a story and sequence of events. Saying that too much expertise can be a bad thing (sic) to me says that cryptographers might be hamstrung by trying to view it purely through the lens of cryptography. In other words just trying to brute force the whole thing with ciphers might get you somewhere but ultimately not put you on the right path. I think it's more like pretend you're in a Dan Brown novel only the puzzle isn't globe-trotting and also it isn't a terrible book. Others have pointed out the Berlin Clock in question (or the one that seems to be the correct clock) is on a street that runs east-northeast. Since he revealed Berlin Clock and east northeast first for K4 I think he's really strong hinting at something in the physical world either being part of the solution or what the solution is pointing at, and that seems appropriate for an archeologist. In the end the whole thing will point to something "buried" in a sense. I'm a storyteller so that's how my mind works. Watching this whole thing and reading some of the comments that seemed astute it just gives me the feeling of if you lay out everything chronologically you might see where there are gaps in the story, what it's narrative is and looking at it from a narrative structure where it might lead to.
What if the guy is a time traveller and his background in archaeology is actually the future excavation of the ancient Kryptos that he himself created while travelling to the past?
4:16 he sarcastically says “I have a creative mind like the world has never seen” but thing is it’s absolutely true. The creativity in not only videos but also the topics on this channel is unmatched. Oh he also makes his own music for the videos.
20:49 Plot Twist: they're reading the text the wrong way round. the reason it was made with punched out letters is so that the proper text can only be read the right way round, in the shadow cast by the sculpture
I had just been looking at this channel a couple weeks ago saying to myself "damn, I can't wait for him to upload again", and then I saw the iconic thumbnail style and instantly clicked on it. Welcome back LEMMiNO
it was yesterday that I talk to myself " hmm last video was 7 month ago, I wonder when will he upload again" and boom this video comes up hours later. it was a good day
One of my favourite encryption techniques is pig-pen. It’s very simple on its surface, but one of the interesting things it does is provide pivotable characters. Rotating any character (aside from the two in the center of the hashes) will transform it into one of 4 total possible characters for that position. Combine that with something like a Vigenère cypher which shifts the alphabetical code around, and it can be quite robust. Apply further processes, such as rotating individual characters different degrees according to specific patterns (spiral shapes, mathematical codes, and so forth), translating the whole thing into numerics, rotate the page orientation and write out the numbers accordingly- there are so many interesting possibilities for a practically unbreakable encryption for those who do not possess the key. I’ve never had any cause to use it seriously and likely never will, but I love that the possibility exists anyway.
The characters become basically unidentifiable and therefore largely immune to decryption techniques such as frequency analysis. You just hand someone a wall of numbers, they have no idea the transformations they might have been subjected to. All it takes is a little creativity and you can make something that'll stump anyone. But the goal for Kryptos and other projects is not really to be unbreakable, but to be very difficult to break. Otherwise they'd be no fun at all.
@@ForumArcade Maybe the reason frequency analysis doesn't work is bcs its not english? I know its Berlin clock, english, but maybe that was just a hint.
Lemmino going into extreme detail with the most random subject every upload on a once a year basis. I really want to know what kind of rng he uses to decide his topic. Welcome back, everyone. Been a while.
Just got to 35:40 and when the text got rotated, I got really excited. From the start of the video I just thought “What if you needed to turn it around a bit”.
K1 mentions light and shadow an an illusion. The morse code tablets are arranged outward almost like fragments of a greater whole, the Berline clock tells time using a morse-like pattern, the bronze cap has compass points on it, and the sculpture allows light to pass through it. The K4 text reads "eastnortheast", and geocoordinates were mentioned earlier. The shadow of the sculpture itself is the key, probably while looking at a specific direction at a certain time of day.
So uh, just spit all in right now, but and hear this through, could the entire answer actually be what the chick in the 1992 February Hustler magazines tattoo actually spells?
@@skylernathanielspenillo3279 would you really have to be at Langley to test the idea? We have maps of all the relevant pieces of kryptos as they relate to each other and the surrounding geography. It shouldn't be too hard to work out a general idea of how the sun strkes and casts shadows.
@@dbensdrawinvids8390plus Samborn mentioned in that same breath, someone would have to solve the cypher first & then head to the piece itself. i think someone could solve it either in person, remotely or both. probably both though lol
I’m sure someone else has mentioned this but a Palimpsest is also an archaeological term for a collection of random artefacts (from different time periods or places) that have been deposited in one place by natural or human means. I’m also shocked this wasn’t mentioned though I’m sure someone else has considered it, the references to rows and abscissa could have to do with the “X” points in K2
I figured that "BERLIN CLOCK" was talking about the world clock in Alexanderplatz, which would also align with the "EASTNORTHEAST" clue and the GPS coordinates from K2.
There at least three special clocks in Berlin I know of: 1) The "Berlin-Uhr" shown by LEMMINO that is located in front of the Europa Center but was located at Kurfürstendamm until 1996. 2) The "Weltzeituhr" at Alexanderplatz that is the most famous clock in Berlin and even a sight of the city. 3) The "Uhr der fließenden Zeit" that works with communicating watertanks and siphons inside the Europa Center. But if K4 really references any of this clocks, the first one is the most likely because it is the only one where the official German name translates to "Berlin Clock".
@@МихаилЗаика-р6л That is an interesting thought. What if the reason K4 wasn't solved yet is because it isn't solvable with English alone, but requires knowledge of other languages too. Prolly too far-fetched for an art installation at a US intellegence agency from a US artist, but yeah...
I was watching an episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9 with my brother yesterday and there's a scene where Sisko says 'Let me know', my brother then tells me that he was watching one of your videos and thought he recognized the voice in your intro, lo and behold the 'Lemmino' in your intro is Sisko's line from that episode of DS9. Couldn't believe my brother picked up on that.
Surely it's not a coincidence that the compass rose is pointing west-southwest and the k4 plaintext contains the phrase east-northeast? Thats the exact opposite direction... Edit: for fun, I tried to invert the coordinates from K2, to find the exact other side of the earth. It's a few dozen miles off the coast of Île Saint-Paul, an uninhabited island. I would rate the chance that this is the correct solution as low 😅
@@TransistorBased It can't be used to solve K4, but the entire plaintext needs to be used to give a final solution (i.e. dig at specific coordinates). It may still provide a clue in that regard.
So LEMMiNO is actually right huh? Every solution you think about has already been thought by someone. Because I thought of doing exactly this right after I read the K2 text.
It’s two days after this was first uploaded, and at 25:08 Lemmino remarkably accurately predicted the view count after that amount of time. It says 1,473,625 in the video, and the video is currently at 1,463,176. Research went into this tiny, tiny bit.
imagine how smart you gotta be to not only sumarise this topic in a visual and understandable way but to also come up with your solutions to the K4 problem, even if they don't ultimately work
When LEMMiNO’s name popped up in my notifications, I know I’m about to go on an unforgettable journey. There are people making hundreds of short videos every day and NONE will even be as good as LEMMiNO making a 50 minute “documentary” every half a year. As always, a very fascinating video!!
as someone who has a very difficult time understanding how cryptography works, your visual representations are absolutely fantastic! it was very easy to understand everything you were explaining, and i appreciate just how much extra work was put into that aspect of the video. very excited to have found this channel!
the clock shown in the video, the Mengenlehreuhr (Set Theory Clock) or Berlin-Uhr (Berlin Clock), is a 24 hour clock and the way you tell time is by calculating it yourself, the top four red lights are 5 hours each, the set below is one hour each, and the next set is 5 minutes each, and the last set is 1 minute each so the time the clock is at in the photo Lemmino used is 10:31 AM the creator of Kryptos said he was always fascinated with all of the clocks in Berlin, but the Berlin Clock fascinated him the most, just for more information (also not sure if it matters but i tried something random, if you place a compass facing eastnortheast on a normal clock, it points towards 2:15, might as well try anything lol)
watching this video on ciphers just makes me want some of the mysteries of world war 2/1 as some of those are really interesting, especially with the style of lemmino documentaries not putting me to sleep like ones made by tv companies
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Lemmino just makes consistent “drop everything and watch this now” videos
This video is definitely gonna get over 10 million views
exactly dude, guess I’m not doing homework for the next 47 minutes
@@TheNamesFathomAgent 47
@@NotTheRambo The star trek number...
Bruh, literally. I was in the middle of another video essay and then I saw this, I clicked immediately
Crazy how i watched 47 minutes of numbers and letters and didnt get bored for a second lol Lemmino is the goat
You’re forcing yourself to like this because of the channel it comes from. Atleast be honest , this ain’t no jfk or jack the ripper video . This is a filler video I hope .
@@JoeRogansForehead nah this is more interesting than jfk and jack the ripper honestly
@@JoeRogansForehead totally agree. Not a good topic. The planets one is his best in recent memory
@@mazef8836 that Jack the Ripper video is one of THE best true crime documentaries ever made . Way better than the ones put out on TV or Netflix even. I usually skip Jack the Ripper videos because it’s been done so much but the visuals he used in it to map out the crimes is perfect . He somehow got the environment of Victorian England to come through on an animated UA-cam documentary.
not much of a thinker are you then?
I like how this guy made a reputation of only posting once in a blue moon and every single video is an absolute banger. Love this guy
@@jaypolas4136 the term "once in a blue moon" refers to an event that "rarely" happens. just like blue moon that happens every two or three years.
even crazier to think when i first saw this guy he was doing like top 10 rage comics type videos
@@jaypolas4136 my brother, why ask in a comment (where you can get false, satirical answers) instead of just typing the same thing into Google?!
Yeah… it takes long because he’s working on the next video.
@@vnlbrand At least he was uploading
Bro taught Vigenère & other ciphers in a more engaging way than what I learned during my CS Engineering Cryptography course at Uni. Excellent video man.
This video would be a great lab exercise. Give undergrads a computer eventually but challenge them with pen-and-paper. Frequency analysis is so useful it motivates the fancy stuff. If you're interested, look at Shannon's 1948 paper -- it's challenging but written clearly.
Same! He sparked an interest that beats any college class. I learned more on my own in order to try to solve this then I ever did or could in college.
Yeah my buddy Eric solved it already but he doesn't “want to brag about it” he's a very humble and chill guy
“Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.” Probably
Is his surname Fermat perhaps?
I solved but then I accidentally threw away the Post-It Note where I wrote the solution. I forgot it now.
my girlfriend solved it but she goes to another school you woudln't know her
Nah, my cousins girlfriend's college roommate said that she solved it and gave your friend Eric a fake solution because he wouldn't stop asking her about it
Brothers, we have been reunited once again.
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About time, this one took super long.
The deliberate misspellings to throw off codebreaking attempts is one of those things that I love because it can either be a clue or a complete red herring.
I know it was almost certainly intentional, but the idea he genuinely just misspelled those words by accident is funny af to me
I like to think bro just forgot how to spell and didn’t bother fixing it
@@typicalchomper917 he released the thingys for k1&2 and one of the words that were "misspelled " were spelled correctly in the official release
"desparatly" has two errors in it.
@iyoeYou see that door right there? The one marked pirate? You think a pirate lives in there?
It’s still blows my mind that I was watching ‘Best Rage Comics’ on this channel in 2012ish and now he’s putting out this top tier quality stuff. I feel like I grew up with this channel now.
damn nice thats 12 years ago... youve certainly grown uup with it. I just discovered this channe;
i can hear the sheer annoyance and desperation of cracking this code at the end there lmao this definitely got lemmino crazy for months
Kinda like Sanborn.
Typical Lemmino 🗿🗿🗿
No flashy intro. No unnecessary bs. Hops in, blows our mind with therapeutic voice, hops out. Goated
Idk man, the DB Cooper video's flashy intro was awsome
If there was a flashy intro the video would suck I agree
@@lethaunticDB cooper is sick tho
No flashy intro, no unnecessary bs, just Lemmino.
At this point his intro gives me goosebumps cause I know I’m in for a great time
With the morse code, the RQ at the end (.-. --.-) is actually probably meant to be CQ (-.-. --.-) - When a tapper taps out CQ CQ CQ, they are asking "Can anyone hear me?" or "Is someone receiving?"
So,
CQ
SOS
"Can anyone hear me?"
"I need help!"
During my boy scouts radio merit badge training our instructors told us that CQ also sounds as "seek you"
CQ is used the same way in Ham Radio, as well as most military situations iirc, usually when using morse code or long distance comms, that's a good catch! i'm a ham and didn't even notice it!
Interesting. Does this have anything to do with CQD, the original distress code?
- "Can you see Q?"
- Can you CQ?
- Can you "hear me"?
Is it possible four strings of E in morse code means error in transmission?
Good news brothers, Lemmino uploads every 6-8 months and this video just hit 6 months, we’re in the any day now range for an upload 🔥🔥
31:45 "T IS YOUR POSITION" -> So "you" are at "T" -> VIR"TU"ALLY is the only instance of a U at a T -> the letters immediately following it are the ALLYINVI for ABSCISSA
that definitely sounds like the intended process actually! great catch??
Also randomly noted that the iqlusion typo coincides with the extra L on the text and maybe we can suppose that in the last sentence the Q near the question mark is just a simple substitution for the L. Also i think that the question mark is intended as a visual representation of a letter or of a word in some culture related to the rest of the text
good spot there!
This also implies that there isn't any "cut out part" - this was the intended sentence. Nice spot, this definitely deserves to be higher in the comments so Lemmino can see it!
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LEMMiNO is seriously the gold standard for documentaries/ video essays. The amount of production, research, and effort is so apparent and incredible. Im honestly suprised he can put out the number of videos he does
No arguments there
Melodysheep is a very close contender too imo
@@nulled7888 Definitely agree, but gotta give the gold standard to lemmino because I'm a lemmino fanboy
lolwhat he release one video half a year dmbfuki
@@barsnack7999you go produce something even half as good as this, no chance you’ll get it done in a year lmao
the creator getting impatient and giving huge clues to k4 is so relateable. what a normal guy
I play VALORANT 🗿
i have your pfp as my phone wallpaper lol. what a coincidence
""impatient" he waited 30 years bro.
@@zingyoak3917 who cares? go away.
@@thecosmicrae
believe it or not, i was one of your viewers 10 years ago and just forgot the channel as i used new account.
now some other youtuber brought your name and I just remembered you .
so much memories in this channel, thank you
Was it Papa Meat?
The fact that we've been at this for 33 years, with the first three being solved relatively instantly while the 4th one is still unsolved makes me think that Sanborn is literally just trolling us, and he's just gonna tell us all on his deathbed that he was kidding this whole time and it's all just gibberish.
Exactly the vibes i get from him haha
The guy is 3 weeks older than my grandpa. My grandpa, a train mechanic with an average pension and heart disease from an ex-comunist country, is still holding, so a guy like Jim, who could who has much more money and who could get access to much more professional health care won't die anytime soon.
Nice profile pic bro
I get the impression that he used “spiritual” (numerology) ciphering for the last part. Not so much scientific, technical or mathematical encryption.
I tend to agree with this.
I am not an expert cryptographer but I have been invested in the topic from a young age, especially around the history of famous codes. One thing that I learnt is that any sort of code that takes this long to break, is simply a troll. Any method of encryption that a human mind can use, even one that they created themselves not based upon an already existing cypher, is reversible or the plain text can be extracted. There is in fact no event in history since the 60s where actually decryptable code, has remained encrypted for this long before being found out. Every single time it's either that the text was never meant to be something that can be decrypted. The fact Kryptos K4 stays not even extracted for this long when we have machines and information like we do today, meanwhile the entire other part of Kryptos was decrypted in just 2 days by a bunch of interns, is proof that the entire puzzle has no solution. Nothing to be obtained at the end or understood. Like Sanborn said in interviews, it's just a form of long art.
I've never been more confused in my entire life for 47 minutes straight whilst also being utterly fascinated with why I'm so confused.
This video made me feel so dumb
B and smart all at once.
I solved K4 but will not tell anyone
You will be even more confused when you try to understand how actual good encryption algorithms work
ok
I thought I couldn't grasp it because I was too high but I just watched it sober and yeah its just a step above my paygrade
I'm an infosec/crypto nerd and the amount of research done here is insane. And the editing work. If I had to do just one of these sequences in After Effects, I'd cry.
Amazing work here.
I'd hope he used a coding animation tool like manim or motion canvas for the cypher animations
No one cares lil bro come join us in waiting for yet another 6 months until another video drops
That would be fascinating were I gay
Are you
i think he is
That last bit was so inspiring, I don’t know a thing about cryptography but I felt like I could accomplish the “impossible”
LEMMiNO - if you ever read this message, you're the best creator on UA-cam. And as HistoryDose stated your videos are "drop everything and watch this now" videos. Thank you.
No doubt, hands down, best of the best
The goat of UA-cam. No questions asked
Lemmino, Ahoy and Captain Pikant are far far beyond every one else making videos on UA-cam or even Netflix, etc.
@@irotinmyskinwho tf is captain pikant
@@rektangel333 Use that search bar tiger, it does wonders.
I do like the conflict of the artist trying to design a puzzle to be solved in a certain way and the cryptographers finding their own way entirely. It shows a difference in mentality between artists and, well, nerds.
There is also the realistic necessity for NSA cryptography guys to avoid the "artist approach" - they very likely need to decipher codes in unfamiliar languages, or even languages that do not make their words (lexicon) with verbal alphabets, so the usage of maths is just them being professionals
There’s something fitting about the final cypher not being cracked despite the massive technological advances since the puzzle was created. Almost like the solution must be solved with this artistic mentality.
@@forgotultag1543 Yeah the thing is that whilst for a creator the solution may seem very doable, there are realistically billions of ways to creatively and artistically encode something. So trying to work based on that idea would be true brute force work and take way longer than using clever pattern recognition to bypass the encryption.
It very much reminds me of the battle between game devs and speedrunners. Game devs put so much thought into boss design and then a speedrunner comes equipped with a fish using a specific attack to do animation cancelling beating the boss by just spamming one button xD
@@Blex_040 tbf, those speedrunners have spent a lot of time on said game to know about those exploits
Irish viewer here. A big thank you for the little pause.
Appreciated by us Aussies too 😂
Don't forget about the rest of the Brits
im american and i could not hold back laughter at his name
can someone explain?
@@bbbnuy3945Sheidt sounds like Shite
i honestly can’t wait for in like 5 years the older videos start getting conclusions and we get banger videos going back to old topics
bro got contracted to decorate a courtyard and made a whole ass arg
lmao they could have just hired matpat he would have cracked this stuff in 1 day
@@oofedd The majority of Matpats theories are cherry-picked from Reddit and not his own original thoughts, discoveries, or theories.
@@oofedd lol
@@riverdawn7288 He takes several theories and take from them and form a combined theory
Exactly what I was thinking. He had to have had some form of help/collaboration with the CIA right? There’s no way some random artist with no studies in Cryptology was able to create a code by himself, that not even the smartest code breakers in the world could crack.
I really appreciate how you always add closed captioning, thank you so much!!
😊 it's great 😊
Charlie Crook = CC = 33
Closed Captioning = CC = 33
I hope you guys see what's happening in the comments section? Web search term: _"The Open Scroll Code 33 article series"_ if you don't know what I'm on about.
@@horaceosirian8993 there has got to be something wrong with u
The fact that he said in a recording that he's not very good at math and that he loves putting out misinformation and scramble decipher attempts using extra letters or intentional misspellings, and of course the fact that he said that he's getting impatient that nobody can solve K4 can be pointing towards just pure trolling in general. He said that he wanted to make something to practically immortalize his name. K4 could very well just be gibberish and he's one of the worlds biggest trolls.
But would you rather want to be immortalized by gibberish, or by genuine code that nobody can crack? It doesn't have to be gibberish to be virtually uncrackable.
@@lonestarr1490 I mean yeah, if you just throw enough cyphers at the same piece of text repeatedly, you can get something that is virtually uncrackable. Its not a particularly good or interesting from a codebreaking challenge point of view, but wouldn't be surprised if he did it.
eastnotherneast berlinclock
@@lonestarr1490 but does anyone seriosuly believe that the guy was actually let in on something top secret/important and they just let him just share it all with everyone, even though in a decryptc form.
We are living in the world that doesn't make much sense. It's all non-sense. And he might've just (arguably) immortalized himself as the biggest troll in the history of humankind?
@@andysandy3465 I have no idea where you pulled the "top secret/important" from. Did anyone suggest that K4 might held some form of secret information? I'm not aware of such a statement.
This LEMMINO guy should be having 300 million subscribers like for real his videos are top notch highly instructive content
The fact you had to learn and understand this first, in order to be able to create this content and explain it to us is just incredible dedication. You're the absolute GOAT, never stop doing these.
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Me: “What’s the WI-FI password?”
Friend: “It’s on the back of the router”
The back of the router:
No replies?
*MEOW* (It's just a cat with an antenna in its butt)
@@SpearFisher85 HUH?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
44 acck 34
The clock mentioned in K4 might be the Berlin World Clock, as it has a compass under it, with one of the directions on it being ONO-Osten Nordosten or East North East in english which is also mentioned
Around the time the sculptures were commissioned, the Berlin Wall fell. Which may have inspired some influence
Has anyone considered not an English word but maybe a German word, especially if Berlin is in it
yeah, i think thats nore likely as well, esp considering its much more well known
@@julianbustamnte7123 maybe the codeword is Manhattan (from the Leonard Cohen song)
Some interesting facts i have found; the original location of the Berlin Clock mentioned in the video was on the intersection of two streets: Kurfürstendamm and Uhlandstraße; the street called Kurfürstendamm is a EAST-NORTHEAST bound street which ends at the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church; notable places located EAST-NORTHEAST of the Berlin Clock: the embassy of the USA, Academy of Arts in Berlin and the Berlin Cathedral.
I would love to see him dive deep into the mystery of the worlds fair
I am a little stunned that none of the solutions have anything to do with the fact that the puzzle is made of holes in a sheet of metal that will cast the letters on the floor infront of the sculpture which would reverse the rows as the bottom rows would now appear at the top in the shadow of the scroll. Sanborn has been talking about light and shadow in K1 and used such language when commenting about the puzzle as a whole. He specifically said that there are encoding systems that use light and shadow and that these systems are the ones he is most interested in. Yet, none of the solution paths have anything to do with this unique property of the puzzle.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it has been tried though, and he just didn't mention it in this video
I thought the same honestly. I wonder if this is actually the solution to the puzzle?
Maybe that was how you obtain these clues? But not a lot of manpower went into it and it's not like we can just camp in CIA grounds either.
@@kevindharmawan3697 you can always recreate the model in blender and shine some light onto it yourself
Also, the double-curve nature of the sculpture would mean that one piece of the text would be projected in the morning, as the sun rises on the east side -- and the other would be more visible in the evening, as the sun sets on the west side.
Harkens back to his apparent interest in ancient Egyptian design.
Putting the NSA through a whole ass ARG is crazy 💀
Then they solve it and get mad because it's a buncha hippie bullshit
I mean, going through an ARG is pretty much their job, except for them it's real life.
bro was commissioned to do an art piece but gave the entire human race a headache in the next 30 years (and counting)
bro doesn't know how to use grammar @@tonton9598
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 it's just an RG
K4 says “If you enjoyed my puzzle, like and subscribe”
subscriberlinclock
@efudesu9267 to the east of the subscribe button is the like button and to the northeast of the video is where the channel pop up at the end of the video on the video player is
I swear, if it's the URL for rick rolling I'll laugh my ass off.
"and don't forget to click the bell icon notification"
I was thinking more like "I am the zodiac"
Is anyone else here in November 2024 itching their necks having withdrawals from Lemmino???
You have no idea... I cant afford patrean and check his latest videos for anyone that has updates..... 😞
34:10 I deliberately slowed down the video and you actually said all 192 letters, both times. Thank you.
Pretty sure he just used the same audio twice but still it shows how much effort he puts in his videos
jfc
Christ Jesus gave me the code. It’s on my page.
Twenty nine x six equals April seventeen Christ.
I sped up.
Irish viewer here; I literally repeated “Scheidt” out loud and chuckled to myself as soon as you said the name, your interjection then straight after was the icing on the cake, thank you LEMMiNO 😂
Same here, are we really that predictable 😂😂😂
what does it mean? Asking for as non english non Irish people.
@@harshitsharma2690 Literally just means shit
Northern England here, love the word. I remember a Kevin Bridges bit when he said the main difference between "shit" and "shite" was that people have made "shit" positive now, i.e. "That's good shit" - but "shite" just means "shite". You can't have "good shite" 🤣
I kept hearing McGregor saying that all the time and I just got the joke immediately when he stated "Irish" lol
Sanborn not expecting how long it would take to solve K4 has big "I didn't know number theory proofs would be this hard" energy
Mathematics might be Sanborn's bane. But number theory is a mathematician's bane.
@@lonestarr1490 42
I was in basic training when this came out. Finally being able to watch this video is the best part of graduating.
The thing I noticed the most while watching this is that Sanborn loves lining things up and making them symmetrical, only to add one or two things that "ruin" it. I feel like the morse code and the berlin clock "line up" in some way too, but I'm a complete idiot and I bet that's already been tried lol. Maybe rotating the clock/ morse code in a similar fashion to what was done previously?
As per usual, this was a video that's an incredibly random topic-wise but still incredibly entertaining in a way that holds your attention for a longer period of time. Thank you!
Maybe, somehow, the coordinates for the clock can be cross-referenced to the coordinates in K2, and maybe even those of King Tut’s tomb. Just spitballing
for me it is the compass, the south arrow points east-northeast. Also i do not believe it is a hill cipher (requires some knowledge of matrix multiplication) and the extra 'L' is symmetrically placed.
two immediate observations/theories I have regarding K4 involve the idea that the KRYPTOS table itself might have to be altered to decode it, either by:
A) Shifting the table down two rows so that the L on the left side is in line with the right hand one but keeping the horizontal position the same.
B) flipping the table so the L is on the Left hand side (This could be done IRL by simply walking around to the other side of the statue)
C) some combination of the two.
You never know what contribution might end up solving a problem like this. Experts and seasoned veterans of any profession faced with a problem often have tunnel vision, thinking about problems with the same set of solutions every time. The idiom "fresh set of eyes" didn't just show up one day, it was inducted into the English lexicon for a reason. Sometimes a problem requires the insight that a more basic or simple perspective provides.
Yeah, I think that's why there are so many superfluous Es they're just a pip/dit so they can be used to make the shape symmetrical and the RQ SOS ruins that.
I think the R is a C there's only one dit difference C is dit-dah-dit-dah and R is dit-dah-dit-dah-dit
CQ SOS means "I am sending a distress call" or "Have you heard my distress call?" Which I think refers to the Can you see Q?or Can you CQ? The artist wants to know if we've received his message.
Lemmino the kinda dude to show up out of thin air, say two sentences, and the next 40 minutes from that point is a complete mystery to you, cause you've been busy listening to whatever he got on his mind this time. Absolute masterpiece, love your videos!
What?
My problem with Sanborn's keywords is the fact that even now, nobody could deduce 100% conclusive reasonings for finding "PALIMPSEST" and "ABSCISSA" with the available clues we have now. We have theories, but none of them seem very...right. Also just giving the answers of parts of the K4 plaintext doesn't really help if nobody knows HOW to get there in the first place. It's like giving the final answer to a complex maths question and then being asked how to get there.
Then answer to the question of the universe and everything is 42.
Sanborn himself said he didn't good at math.
@@PHyN1151you don't good in english 😂😂❤
shoutout to the channels who make high quality documentary videos every year gotta be my favorite ones
And thus as we conclude watching the video, we crawl back into hibernation, waiting for the next episode to drop, knowing we will be excited and satisfied. Thank you LEMMiNO
Just like a Cicada!? 😮
until then you can watch Fern videos similar quality to Lemmino
It was a pleasure to watch. I'm crawling back into my shell now, see you around next time!
Holy fuck, I can't believe it's been 9 months since the JFK video. I was in an awful place when that video came out, I watched it from my desk at a job that made me fat and miserable. I quit, went back to college full time, and started working out every day. I am so much happier and healthier right now. I hope everyone else has been doing well since the last upload :)
Good shit brother
Huge, keep it up!
I didn't realize this was your blog
Im still at the same job i was at when that video dropped and it feels like it could have been a month ago for me, but damn, 9 months huh...
yeaaaah boii!!! that's epic, well done (: keep it up young king
I honestly can't believe I get to watch these videos for free. The research, the smooth, purposeful, visuals. There isn't a single minute wasted. Outstanding. I'm glad you do what you do.
It's honestly unbelievable. The fact he made this video so fast after an almost 2 hour long one is crazy to me.
@@27mosquitoes Yeah, almost like he has help.
Insane quality on his own
I can believe it.
So, so, good. A masterfully constructed and executed documentary. One of the best that I’ve ever seen. I applaud you.
No exaggeration, I think this is my favorite Lemmino video till date. I love every video he puts out, but the ones about puzzles have a special touch to them
Ì loved his cooper an Malaysia video still to this date🎉😅
I totally agree! The Cicade one is also high on the list for me
That "Top 10 facts - Porn" though. Classic!
@@Belgrythaz loved it when he was a top 10 channel. Humble beginnings . What was his weird ass name before he rebranded 🤣
@@DwarfDt Top 10 Memes I believe
This guy integrated a "like, subscribe, and comment" clip without being annoying about it. That earns a like, subscription, and a comment. Great job Lemmino!
You were already subbed, don’t lie
This is the most detailed explanation I've encountered about the Kryptos sculpture's encryption process. Appreciate your hard work in breaking down these complex details.
You are the actual GOAT man, every time i'm bored i just come back to your channel and rewatch your videos
i appreciate you reading all 192 characters multiple times
lol as an Irish viewer I laughed at the guys surname “Scheidt” then you said “ok I’m gonna let my Irish viewers process that surname” lol completely broke the 4th wall for me 😂
Same 😂
Non-irish here: works perfectly in Dutch as well. Scheidt would be pronounced as schijt, i.e. the Dutch equivalent of shite
Same here gang
there’s no 4th wall here. he is directly addressing the audience throughout the entire video
@@freebird_2 Well yes. Most YT vids do directly addresses their audience, it's common. However it's the level of cinematography of LEMMiNO's documentary that made people forgets it's just a YT video, not a cinema. It's an attest of LEMMiNO's quality work.
18:16 Can't believe that Jim Sanborn travelled 25+ years into the future to make a reference to Walter white in his artwork. Truly a visionary.
you sneaky
W.W. Huh. Who do you figure that is? Woodrow Wilson? Willy Wonka? Walter White? William Webster?
Exactly my thoughts haha
@@ItsDiesL William Wordsworth
@@ItsDiesLWally West? Wonder Woman? William Williams? William Wilburforce? Will Wheaton? Wade Wilson? Wally Walrus?
The talk about and masking the plaintext 44:10 with "layers" reminded me about the seemingly minuscule discovery of "x layer two" at 37:48. Just food for thought.
On the ? from K3 (36:08) I’m pretty sure it belongs to K4 because the Q probably represents the question mark in the tomb manuscript. Since X is being used to represent a period it would make sense to use letters for other punctuation. And as we know (especially since it was mentioned in the video) Q is one of the most uncommon letters which makes it a perfect candidate to represent “?”.
I had a hunch when it was first mentioned at (23:35) but seeing the table basically confirms it.
That's a really smart theory.
And to state the obvious, Q = Question mark = ?
@@alexties6933probably, since X means a stop like a period, the Q meaning question is not even a stretch.
@@judet2992 yes and this furthers the idea that K4 is written backwards. Or maybe in spanish, since questions in spanish start with a ? and end with a turned ?
this is exactly what i was thinking
31:00 - In morse code transmission, it is standard practice to parse an incorrect transmission with 5 “E’s”. Essentially it is to signify a false statement made on behalf of the operator.
Mmmmmmmmmmm!
everyone is talking about the cipher but I'm actually impressed by the monument and the idea behind it, it's so brilliant
without the cypher the monument would not be brilliant
Yeah, I find it very beautiful.
@@dark_sunset I agree. I thought he had some profound message he wanted to hide, something important that would only be known by the best and smartest of us. But looking at the Morse code and the plaintext K1 through K3, the message doesn't seem to be anything in particular.
It seems that this monument was made more as an art piece than a legitimate challenge. It was made to be spoken about and raise the public profile of the artist. But maybe this sort of challenge-without-reward situation appeals to those who enjoy the journey as opposed to the destination.
omg you are soooo different and cool
@@leftover3857 why thank you! :)
No unnecessary intros, no over the top presentation, no bs. Just pure quality
That’s what makes him the best 🙌
Lemmino has the kind of optimism not only to make a video about the cryptology equivalent to One Piece because he acquired an enjoyment for cryptology because of Cicada , but then do a call of action at the end. There are virtually no channels left on this website the size you are who are still doing this purely for the love of the sport. Thank you for everything you do. I've been here since top 10s and, with your level of artistic integrity, I'll be here for many more.
Nice
pewds?
The one thing that stood out to me is: he had a background in archeology? He might have indeed not used a simple cypher technique, and instead intended for the thing to be cracked like hieroglyphs with some sort of roseta stone or like Asya did with her human, Yuri Knorozov when they cracked the Mayan script.
That is to say it might be worth it to try it as a non English text.
But I don’t know, I’m not a cryptographer in the slightest.
unrelated but I just fell down a rabbit hole about yuri knorozov, i had no idea who he was but i'm so interested in his work now. thank you!
p.s. the berlin legend in his wiki page got me laughing about k4 (tho i'm sure it's a happy coincidence)
I just looked up Yuri Knorozov, I love this:
"Knorozov listed his cat Asya as a co-author on his work, but the editors always removed her. He always used the photo with Asya (above) as his author photo, and got annoyed when editors cropped her out."
This passed through my mind. Not the archeology. I don't know shit about archeology lol. But why not throw another language in? It would make it more fun, no?
I think at the end it will point to a physical object or location. There are a lot of direction or coordinate based components and he definitely likes incorporating the physical. He talks about machines a bunch too and how they help break codes and how he likes that. Makes me think of the enigma machine which was invented in Germany (more later).
IMO the whole puzzle reads more like a story and sequence of events. Saying that too much expertise can be a bad thing (sic) to me says that cryptographers might be hamstrung by trying to view it purely through the lens of cryptography. In other words just trying to brute force the whole thing with ciphers might get you somewhere but ultimately not put you on the right path.
I think it's more like pretend you're in a Dan Brown novel only the puzzle isn't globe-trotting and also it isn't a terrible book. Others have pointed out the Berlin Clock in question (or the one that seems to be the correct clock) is on a street that runs east-northeast. Since he revealed Berlin Clock and east northeast first for K4 I think he's really strong hinting at something in the physical world either being part of the solution or what the solution is pointing at, and that seems appropriate for an archeologist. In the end the whole thing will point to something "buried" in a sense.
I'm a storyteller so that's how my mind works. Watching this whole thing and reading some of the comments that seemed astute it just gives me the feeling of if you lay out everything chronologically you might see where there are gaps in the story, what it's narrative is and looking at it from a narrative structure where it might lead to.
What if the guy is a time traveller and his background in archaeology is actually the future excavation of the ancient Kryptos that he himself created while travelling to the past?
Aight its been 6 months.......where are ya!!!
4:16 he sarcastically says “I have a creative mind like the world has never seen” but thing is it’s absolutely true. The creativity in not only videos but also the topics on this channel is unmatched. Oh he also makes his own music for the videos.
OMG the music, I still fucking love the music he made for the Cicada video, it's an absolute masterpiece
I need the unedited version of Lemmino counting to 192 twice
ASAP!
That’s the definition of the word ‘commitment’.
13:09 if you look VERY carefully you can see the word "abscissa" right as it goes to the bottom. cool detail LEMMiNO
Nice catch
sorry, could you point out more specifically where?
@@saaros Last example of what word he might have used as a keyword just before the red words goes out of screen
How the fck do spot that 😊
What a sneaky bastard
20:49 Plot Twist: they're reading the text the wrong way round. the reason it was made with punched out letters is so that the proper text can only be read the right way round, in the shadow cast by the sculpture
I had just been looking at this channel a couple weeks ago saying to myself "damn, I can't wait for him to upload again", and then I saw the iconic thumbnail style and instantly clicked on it. Welcome back LEMMiNO
I was rewatching JFK documentary yesterday and was thinking “wonder what his next video is going to be”. Couple hours later I see this pop up.
it was yesterday that I talk to myself " hmm last video was 7 month ago, I wonder when will he upload again" and boom this video comes up hours later. it was a good day
One of my favourite encryption techniques is pig-pen. It’s very simple on its surface, but one of the interesting things it does is provide pivotable characters. Rotating any character (aside from the two in the center of the hashes) will transform it into one of 4 total possible characters for that position.
Combine that with something like a Vigenère cypher which shifts the alphabetical code around, and it can be quite robust. Apply further processes, such as rotating individual characters different degrees according to specific patterns (spiral shapes, mathematical codes, and so forth), translating the whole thing into numerics, rotate the page orientation and write out the numbers accordingly- there are so many interesting possibilities for a practically unbreakable encryption for those who do not possess the key. I’ve never had any cause to use it seriously and likely never will, but I love that the possibility exists anyway.
The characters become basically unidentifiable and therefore largely immune to decryption techniques such as frequency analysis. You just hand someone a wall of numbers, they have no idea the transformations they might have been subjected to. All it takes is a little creativity and you can make something that'll stump anyone.
But the goal for Kryptos and other projects is not really to be unbreakable, but to be very difficult to break. Otherwise they'd be no fun at all.
@@ForumArcade Maybe the reason frequency analysis doesn't work is bcs its not english? I know its Berlin clock, english, but maybe that was just a hint.
I love pig pens too. They're pretty fun to build, and being able to store your own pigs is amazing! Do you have a pig pen?
You single-handedly ignited my interest in cryptography
Good stuff it's really interesting
Being to create a code so difficult is main character energy
Lemmino going into extreme detail with the most random subject every upload on a once a year basis.
I really want to know what kind of rng he uses to decide his topic.
Welcome back, everyone. Been a while.
RNG? Pretty sure he just picks something cause "It sounded cool"
It’s obvious he’s on his CIA grind. his last documentary was literally the JFK assassination.
@@jaypolas4136dont worry, this guy is a poser
pretty sure its unsolved mysteries
There's no random subject. It's always about an unsolved mystery.
Just got to 35:40 and when the text got rotated, I got really excited. From the start of the video I just thought “What if you needed to turn it around a bit”.
K1 mentions light and shadow an an illusion. The morse code tablets are arranged outward almost like fragments of a greater whole, the Berline clock tells time using a morse-like pattern, the bronze cap has compass points on it, and the sculpture allows light to pass through it. The K4 text reads "eastnortheast", and geocoordinates were mentioned earlier.
The shadow of the sculpture itself is the key, probably while looking at a specific direction at a certain time of day.
So uh, just spit all in right now, but and hear this through, could the entire answer actually be what the chick in the 1992 February Hustler magazines tattoo actually spells?
Now my brain is braining
I really like this theory, but I think in the video Samborn mentions you don't need to be there in person to solve it.
@@skylernathanielspenillo3279 would you really have to be at Langley to test the idea? We have maps of all the relevant pieces of kryptos as they relate to each other and the surrounding geography. It shouldn't be too hard to work out a general idea of how the sun strkes and casts shadows.
@@dbensdrawinvids8390plus Samborn mentioned in that same breath, someone would have to solve the cypher first & then head to the piece itself. i think someone could solve it either in person, remotely or both. probably both though lol
This reminds me of The Cicada Video. It was the first video I watched from your channel. Since then, I became your fan
I’m sure someone else has mentioned this but a Palimpsest is also an archaeological term for a collection of random artefacts (from different time periods or places) that have been deposited in one place by natural or human means. I’m also shocked this wasn’t mentioned though I’m sure someone else has considered it, the references to rows and abscissa could have to do with the “X” points in K2
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This makes sense considering the fact that it was mentioned that Jim Sanborn is an artist with a background in archaeology.
I figured that "BERLIN CLOCK" was talking about the world clock in Alexanderplatz, which would also align with the "EASTNORTHEAST" clue and the GPS coordinates from K2.
Another little detail I found were the words DIG and CAR I’m not sure if this is purposeful or if it will help but I found it
You're way off, the answer is Jimmy Stewart-42
Should try if alexanderplatz could be found in the text
@@niskanen19 That would be mad cool beanz dude go ahead
@@conlangknow8787 It does fit, *some* letters in the code/text being the last of them (if that makes sense), fit perfectly into alexanderplatz
Sound design is amazing as usual. Thanks for making this video.
Dinosaurs is officially extingt...
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Np bb gal
Lemmino's documentary is best in the entire planet so much waited for your documentary.
I’m hungover as shit and couldn’t find anything to watch on here. Then I refreshed and this blessed me. The world is beautiful
Feel better homie👍🏻
Omg that must have felt good
ME TOO
Same bro I on the toilet hitting the alcohol shits hard and this is giving me life.
This must be the hangover section?
There at least three special clocks in Berlin I know of:
1) The "Berlin-Uhr" shown by LEMMINO that is located in front of the Europa Center but was located at Kurfürstendamm until 1996.
2) The "Weltzeituhr" at Alexanderplatz that is the most famous clock in Berlin and even a sight of the city.
3) The "Uhr der fließenden Zeit" that works with communicating watertanks and siphons inside the Europa Center.
But if K4 really references any of this clocks, the first one is the most likely because it is the only one where the official German name translates to "Berlin Clock".
Alexanderplatz is located east-northeast of berlin clock, so maybe its name in the k4 too...
"Hand mit Uhr" is another one, shown in "Everything counts" by depeche mode...
@@МихаилЗаика-р6л That is an interesting thought. What if the reason K4 wasn't solved yet is because it isn't solvable with English alone, but requires knowledge of other languages too.
Prolly too far-fetched for an art installation at a US intellegence agency from a US artist, but yeah...
@@Chickenbreadlp maybe far fetched but not impossible, has anyone tried going into google street view and seeing the location around the clocks?
Never clicked faster in my life
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Agreed
real.
Said the same thing
this feels like "the da vinci code", "book scavenger" and "the golden bug" all rolled in one, but in real life
46:10 LEMMiNO really out here using his influence on his 5mil subscribers because he wants to see that code be cracked before Sanborn passes lmao
I was watching an episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9 with my brother yesterday and there's a scene where Sisko says 'Let me know', my brother then tells me that he was watching one of your videos and thought he recognized the voice in your intro, lo and behold the 'Lemmino' in your intro is Sisko's line from that episode of DS9. Couldn't believe my brother picked up on that.
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OH OH MY GOD MY MIND IS BLOWN 🤯 I've seen every episode of DS9 and was never able to connect the dots. Thank you for pointing this out! 😁😁
Holy that's. That's so interesting, I didn't know what was the origin of Lemmino
OH MY GOD NO WAY. this is so cool
Avery Brooks, the legend.
It’s incredible how we’ve gone from ‘top 10’ videos to these amazingly put together documentaries
i miss the top 10 videos tho lmao
Even earlier was his Rage Comics 😂
I love how he does footnotes. So elegant.
"Virtually Invisible". The morse codes on the granite were undeed present, but they were "undergruund" making then "virtually invisible"
an iqlusion to trick us that it is undergruund
Surely it's not a coincidence that the compass rose is pointing west-southwest and the k4 plaintext contains the phrase east-northeast? Thats the exact opposite direction...
Edit: for fun, I tried to invert the coordinates from K2, to find the exact other side of the earth. It's a few dozen miles off the coast of Île Saint-Paul, an uninhabited island. I would rate the chance that this is the correct solution as low 😅
The problem is that we wouldn't have the east-northeast info if he hadn't leaked it. So it can't be something used to solve K4
@@TransistorBased It can't be used to solve K4, but the entire plaintext needs to be used to give a final solution (i.e. dig at specific coordinates). It may still provide a clue in that regard.
So LEMMiNO is actually right huh? Every solution you think about has already been thought by someone. Because I thought of doing exactly this right after I read the K2 text.
It’s two days after this was first uploaded, and at 25:08 Lemmino remarkably accurately predicted the view count after that amount of time. It says 1,473,625 in the video, and the video is currently at 1,463,176. Research went into this tiny, tiny bit.
Just wow, I even watched the video 2 days later just as it says in the video.
@@Enivokeme too lol!
SAME!!! Why the hell didn't I get notified!? I got freaked out sooo much that I was about to give out a slur that I consider a taboo.
Mate vastly underestimated the number of comments though.
What are you guys even talking about 😂
imagine how smart you gotta be to not only sumarise this topic in a visual and understandable way but to also come up with your solutions to the K4 problem, even if they don't ultimately work
When LEMMiNO’s name popped up in my notifications, I know I’m about to go on an unforgettable journey.
There are people making hundreds of short videos every day and NONE will even be as good as LEMMiNO making a 50 minute “documentary” every half a year.
As always, a very fascinating video!!
0:00 when you hear the *"just let me know"*
and that music fade in
You know you are in for a good watch 🍿
as someone who has a very difficult time understanding how cryptography works, your visual representations are absolutely fantastic! it was very easy to understand everything you were explaining, and i appreciate just how much extra work was put into that aspect of the video. very excited to have found this channel!
It was so detailed. I loved watching it. A huge round of applause to the video editor and the creator. Amazing job.
the clock shown in the video, the Mengenlehreuhr (Set Theory Clock) or Berlin-Uhr (Berlin Clock), is a 24 hour clock and the way you tell time is by calculating it yourself, the top four red lights are 5 hours each, the set below is one hour each, and the next set is 5 minutes each, and the last set is 1 minute each
so the time the clock is at in the photo Lemmino used is 10:31 AM
the creator of Kryptos said he was always fascinated with all of the clocks in Berlin, but the Berlin Clock fascinated him the most, just for more information
(also not sure if it matters but i tried something random, if you place a compass facing eastnortheast on a normal clock, it points towards 2:15, might as well try anything lol)
Another example of encryption based on visuals not algorithms. People really are silly.
Wouldn't it be 2:15?
funny how its his fav clock if he hates math so much, u literally have to use math to calculate this clocks time lmao
@@DG_plusrandomnumbers oops yeah you're right i forgot how to read an analog clock for a second lol
@DG_plusrandomnumbers yes it would. I was coming to say this as well.
29:10 only lemmino can make his audience sit through a black screen with only morse code beeps and letters in the middle of a 50 minute documentary
because he is the goat
I was on the edge of my seat for that part 😂
Does that "Just LEMMiNO" send chills down anyone else's spine every time? You just can't help but get hyped.
No it doesn't
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixesget a new spine
watching this video on ciphers just makes me want some of the mysteries of world war 2/1 as some of those are really interesting, especially with the style of lemmino documentaries not putting me to sleep like ones made by tv companies