hi Charlie - thanks for the video! I got the ikape 600ml pitcher after watching this video. I'm struggling with getting the spout of the pitcher close to the surface of the drink. When I try to get the two as close as possible, the frothed milk comes out too fast. When I go slow, I find that the milk starts coming out with about 2 cm of gap between the spout and the surface of the drink. The pitcher is as tilted as possible without letting the frothed milk out and the cup with espresso is tilted as much as possible without the espresso coming out. The only way I found the ability to touch the spout to the surface is if I tilt both the jug and the cup and start at the very edge/beginning of the cup. If I go slow, I don't have enough velocity and all the "art" is on one side of the cup. If I try to make my way to the middle of the cup, the milk comes out too fast again. Does anything stand out of what I'm doing wrong? Can you please point me in the right direction? I appreciate it!
You might be starting your pour too early. Fill the cup by half first, then if you start your pour it should be easy to land right in the centre and get a nice contrast. If you still can't figure it out send me a DM on Instagram with a video and I can point a few things out
Hi Charlie, nice video with no fluff, and good info. I will have to take a closer look at my cheaper Amazon mugs for manufacturing imperfections. Strangely, I do better with those than my Motta jug. That iKape one looks pretty nice. Which has been the best for you, for latte art?
Recently I really like the Ikape one. The rainbow one by Dianoo was surprisingly good for the price, and I like the extended neck. I'll probably get a Jibbijug someday, if anything just so I have no excuse as to why I screw up 40% of my pours 🤣
I just picked up the Normcore handleless one and its honestly really great, I feel like I can get better squiggles out of it (technical term), I have two other jugs both from Slowpour wpm (one round, one narrow) and they're great too but I didn't want to shell out the cost for the slowpour wpm handleless one so opted for the normcore and was pleasantly surprised by the quality. Granted I steam Oatly light (non-fat) and can get pretty dang decent art from my Elizabeth. In my early days of espresso and latte art I tried the Torrid frothing pitcher and that thing is just wonky, but it was most likely user error :)
I wanted to like the handleless ones. I borrowed one from a friend in Tokyo and could hardly do anything on it. Just not my style, but if you like it and it feels good then go for it! They definitely look pretty 😍
Hi Charlie, does the texture of the material inside the jug matter? Should it be smooth or more ridged? I saw this video after I got a relatively cheap steel jug, it's smooth on the outside but a bit harsher, ridged texture on the inside.
I use the Espro Torrid and have a hard time texturing, after stretching. Most tutorials show an angled wand placement just off-centre, but Espro designed theirs to swirl from the straight up & down position. Perhaps user dysfunction, but my mileage has varied significantly.
Take a look at my playlist about latte art, it should help you with some of the basics. The shape of jugs varies but if you look for a roll (up and down movement) rather than just a swirl (round and round) you'll get better consistency and do better pours. Good luck and join my discord and show me some videos if you're struggling
It could work but I would suggest using a latte art jug because it is easier to feel the temperature changes. No point learning on the wrong thing, you'll just need to relearn it all later.
That is definitely not a 600 ml jug and neither is the other one a 420 ml, its 320 ml at best, unless you are a giant with massive hands, which also seems unlikely
I was just looking for an appropriate size. It was shelpful more than it should be thx
"Wonderfully over caffeinated people" I like that one 😁👍
hi Charlie - thanks for the video! I got the ikape 600ml pitcher after watching this video. I'm struggling with getting the spout of the pitcher close to the surface of the drink.
When I try to get the two as close as possible, the frothed milk comes out too fast. When I go slow, I find that the milk starts coming out with about 2 cm of gap between the spout and the surface of the drink. The pitcher is as tilted as possible without letting the frothed milk out and the cup with espresso is tilted as much as possible without the espresso coming out. The only way I found the ability to touch the spout to the surface is if I tilt both the jug and the cup and start at the very edge/beginning of the cup. If I go slow, I don't have enough velocity and all the "art" is on one side of the cup. If I try to make my way to the middle of the cup, the milk comes out too fast again.
Does anything stand out of what I'm doing wrong? Can you please point me in the right direction? I appreciate it!
You might be starting your pour too early. Fill the cup by half first, then if you start your pour it should be easy to land right in the centre and get a nice contrast. If you still can't figure it out send me a DM on Instagram with a video and I can point a few things out
Hi Charlie, nice video with no fluff, and good info. I will have to take a closer look at my cheaper Amazon mugs for manufacturing imperfections. Strangely, I do better with those than my Motta jug. That iKape one looks pretty nice. Which has been the best for you, for latte art?
Recently I really like the Ikape one. The rainbow one by Dianoo was surprisingly good for the price, and I like the extended neck. I'll probably get a Jibbijug someday, if anything just so I have no excuse as to why I screw up 40% of my pours 🤣
@@homecafecharlie Thanks, Charlie!
does the angle of the body of the jug matter?
I just picked up the Normcore handleless one and its honestly really great, I feel like I can get better squiggles out of it (technical term), I have two other jugs both from Slowpour wpm (one round, one narrow) and they're great too but I didn't want to shell out the cost for the slowpour wpm handleless one so opted for the normcore and was pleasantly surprised by the quality. Granted I steam Oatly light (non-fat) and can get pretty dang decent art from my Elizabeth. In my early days of espresso and latte art I tried the Torrid frothing pitcher and that thing is just wonky, but it was most likely user error :)
I wanted to like the handleless ones. I borrowed one from a friend in Tokyo and could hardly do anything on it. Just not my style, but if you like it and it feels good then go for it!
They definitely look pretty 😍
Currently use 400ml brewista nastyjug since I pour on my 250ml cup daily
Some good points. Keep up the good work Charlie!
Thank you!
reading that amazon title in its fullest shows how absurd these titles can be Lol
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Hi Charlie,
does the texture of the material inside the jug matter? Should it be smooth or more ridged?
I saw this video after I got a relatively cheap steel jug, it's smooth on the outside but a bit harsher, ridged texture on the inside.
Honestly I don't think it would make much difference, but I have no idea. All mine appear to be smooth
I use the Espro Torrid and have a hard time texturing, after stretching. Most tutorials show an angled wand placement just off-centre, but Espro designed theirs to swirl from the straight up & down position.
Perhaps user dysfunction, but my mileage has varied significantly.
Take a look at my playlist about latte art, it should help you with some of the basics. The shape of jugs varies but if you look for a roll (up and down movement) rather than just a swirl (round and round) you'll get better consistency and do better pours. Good luck and join my discord and show me some videos if you're struggling
Would a small Pyrex measuring pitcher work for beginner practicing?
It could work but I would suggest using a latte art jug because it is easier to feel the temperature changes. No point learning on the wrong thing, you'll just need to relearn it all later.
420ml pitcher for 200ml drink suprised me, because I use 350ml pitcher and have enough room
Fun fact: you can use pliers to turn your cheap pitcher into a $180 one.
That is definitely not a 600 ml jug and neither is the other one a 420 ml, its 320 ml at best, unless you are a giant with massive hands, which also seems unlikely
i'm like 90% sure he's literally just reading the manufacturer specs it's not that deep lmao