Moab is a great place, and I need to ride there more! It's just so hard when St. George has so many amazing rides that are right outside of town... still, this scenery has made me want to get back there!
We need to chat about Memorial day week. We're thinking of a trip to somewhere near Bryce or That big lake I can't remember the name of. Would be sick if you could join.
We need to chat about Memorial day week. We're thinking of a trip to somewhere near Bryce or That big lake I can't remember the name of. Would be sick if you could join.
How did the trip go? I just picked up a husqvarna 701 and live in salt lake so i was curious how it went and how many days you took which i guess depends on if you road like the BDR or just street etc.
Man you are going to love it! Just use your brain and you'll be just fine. I would strongly suggest a SPOT or InReach for your trip. I won't ride without mine now. Have fun and be safe!
Try Price next. 2 hours north of Moab, riding forever in every direction but no marked trails. Good place to motocamp and completely avoid crowds. Lots of tribal sights and cool terrain.
Great video. Another good tip for maybe a pt2 video that kinda goes with know your skill and bring water.. Bring FUEL!!!! Know your max range and watch the half tank mark (point of safe return). or have a buddy with backup or support vehicle waiting at a set point.
I am from Alabama and want to start dual sporting. Your videos are absolutely the best. I am new to this and you answered all my questions. Thank you so much.
Scenery is fantabulous! Those cliffs look awfully close to the bikes. A bit scary to watch. Great tips and insight! How much water is enough and how do you carry it?
Man, I have so much to say on this subject - I go to Moab 2-3 times every year (and will, in fact, be there this Saturday.) I'm glad water was #1 on your list - that would have been my pick too! For lodging, I usually camp at Pack Creek Campground - it's basically right in town, its cheap, and they have great facilities, with showers, water, power, etc. There are a number of good Air BnB options as well, if you have a group. I've stayed at the Apache, which is a total black flag hotel, but its cheap, and I'm not in Moab to hang out at my hotel. Food! The Jailhouse has the best breakfast in town, bar none. For pie, go to Moab Diner. Moab Brewery is where everyone seems to want to go, but my opinion is that they are overpriced, have mediocre food, and terrible service. I'd rather go to Club Rio - it's a bit of a dive, and is off the beaten path, but they have great food and friendly service. I try to avoid giving my money to places that are anti-OHV (like Peace Tree and Eddie McStiffs.) Great video, CDS. Good topic!
Haha! I knew this one would get a great comment from you. All very good information! Also, you can no longer sleep in my house after staying at the Apache. Lord knows what you might have picked up in that place! I completely agree about the Moab Brewery. Way over priced, crap service and the food is not good. Food can be an issue in Moab if you dont' know your way around. The side streets hold some gems though. Pantele's Deli is amazing! Also slow service, but worth the wait.
+ColoradoDualSport Well, our stay at the Apache was after camping for 3 nights in rain/sleet/show in sub-30 degree weather. We were sold cold, wet, and miserable, we decided to say "F it!" and get a hotel - it was basically our only option at the time :( Yeah. Total dump, but at least it was warm and dry :D
Great scenery & the resolution of the camera is great...Thanks for sharing the need to know....I think it's always a good idea to ride with at least one other person for a variety of reason...Happy Trails !!
Thanks man! That's the good o'l GoPro Hero 2. Still the most indestructible and reliable action cam out there in my opinion at least. I agree, but I do ride alone some times. When i do I find myself avoiding challenges though which I don't like.
I live in salt lake. I’m truly disappointed in myself for never exploring the beautiful state that I live in. Iv never owned a vehicle capable of taking me to these kinds of places. But this winter I’m buying my first dual sport so I can start to see more of this country.
What is the biggest dual sport you would recommend. I was thinking of honda crf 450rl, maybe a ktm 500. I di have a triumph tiger 900 rally pro but I think this bike is big and heavy and I need more experience with this bike before doing something like that. I am sure it could be done but I have only been riding for a year and a half and I am 51. I think maybe a 450 or 500. I learned riding on a 1990 yamaha xt350. The 350 would be a good choice but it is carb. Not sure if this makes a difference in the dessert but altitude will affect it. Awesome video and great things to consider that is why I am asking. I would rather go have a great time on the right bike. Than wish I didn't take the triumph or something like that. Thanks
I’m planning a trip to southern Utah in April 2021 for 3 weeks. I have a Honda CRF 250 L Rally. I’m planning on camping. I have a roof top tent on my 4Runner, with a solar powered refrigerator in the back. I have a rack on the back so I’ll carry the bike from Tennessee out there. I would love to hook up with some other riders. I’m also planning to go to the “big five” national parks and some state parks.
I think you hit most of the important stuff. Its hard to explain to some people because they just wont understand until they're already there. People think they will be used to the heat because it gets hot where they live and plan an August trip thinking it will be no big deal. Keep up the good work.
Haha! I'll tell you, I wish I had this video before our first trip out there! We had no idea what we were getting into. Never again will we do a mid summer Moab trip. Thanks brother!
If you go in August, learn German. Germans flock to the desert in August, which also happens to be their month off. We should require they bring beer!!!
Sick exposure !! I'm relatively new to dirt bike trail riding . I live and ride in the Santa Fe NM area which is great fun but , I really need to branch out after seeing this clip. Thanks for all the cool footage
Yes, but that hole is nearly sealed when the Mic is plugged in. I've ridden in rain storms and never had that happen before. Just gives you an idea of how much rain it was! A little scary, but awesome as hell!
Nice vid! Any nice rides doable in the AM before it gets too hot? I've got middle of August open :( but I'm from TX, so used to extreme heat :). Fins n Things looks cool; and Potash to Shafer,...
Nice timing CDS, headed out from PA this Friday and hope to be in Moab Saturday for the week on my dualsport! Weather looks like it will be perfect, can't wait!
As a local, we get lots of time in in the summer mornings and evenings. Riding in the fall up to Chistmas is usually fine. Shhhh. Don't tell the UTV crowd.
Great clip! Thanks for posting and for the channel. As of this post, Moab is shut down - even the sketchy hotels - along with a NPS and BLM trails, camping and dispersed camping. Check for updates as we get beyond the pandemic.
Great tip's. I'm planning a trip in the fall. I'm planning on just boon docking out in the sticks somewhere and riding everything I can. Still not sure if I'm gonna trailer the bike behind the Jeep or ride it out. (crossing Nevada on a DRZ seems kinda daunting) I've always wanted to do some Moab wheeling in the jeep though. Thanks for the info it really does help with my planning for the trip. See ya next week!
My advice would be to take the jeep and have it as a home base with supplies etc. The drive to Moab can be a bit boring and doing long highway stretches on a DRZ just sucks... I think we can admit that.
Thanks man! Driving by the exit doesn't even being to expose you to what is over there! Absolutely worth making the trip back if you can. I friggin love that place.
Man, what beautiful scenery and pucker - factor drop offs! Would you recommend Rotopax for water and gas or is a camelback adequate for water? Also, consider an evaporative vest for hot weather riding, maybe pack a small umbrella for emergency shade, power bars or gels to keep you thinking straight. "nutnfancy" on YT has good advice on first aid kits. This place just became a higher ranking bucket list destination! Thanks CDS.
Well that really depends on ride length. If you are just going for a days outing a camel-back and a few bottles of water would be sufficient. I normally carry at a minimum 2 large bottles for each person. We may not use all of it, but anything left over can be used the next day. I always like to be over prepared just in case. Yes, I've seen those vests and I think tyler has one. I'll check it out next time I'm down there.
Greetings! Nice vid, great scenery, and very informative. I'm returning to dirtbiking after 3 decades of riding streetbikes with no dirt riding and am riding a 2021 KTM 890 Adventure R (I bought new in Jan 2021). I'm starting to feel more confident on it, but am definitely not to the level I was back in the '90's on my KX500 (currently prepping to sell it). Since the bike is new to me, it's twice the size of my last "dirtbike", I'll be riding alone, and I'm way out of practice, I wanted to get your thoughts on EASY but scenic trails around Moab. I am ok with doing LONG days of riding, but since I'll be solo and for the reasons I mentioned, I don't want anything too difficult. I want to cover a lot fo ground at a good to decent pace, not do really short stretches of difficult roads/trails that still take all day. do you have any suggestions? Thanks, and ride safe!
Awesome man, glad to hear you are getting back into riding. That's a pretty heavy bike for the sand riding that makes up a decent portion of Moab. I would try Chicken Corners, Schafer Tail to Potash rd. Maybe valley of the gods. Also Beef Basin. I wouldn't try to do White Rim though. The majority of the trail is fine, but right at the end there is a stretch of deep sand. Hope that helps a bit. Watch lots of videos. The riding is endless, just trust your gut and carry more water then you think you need. Have a blast!
@@ColoradoDualSport Yeah, she's a big girl, but she can still dance! I look at it this way, I have "planned" routes, but if something gets too difficult, I'll simply turn back and find somewhere else to ride. I ride to have fun, and if I'm dropping it ever 5min, it ceases to be fun. I look at it like the only destination I HAVE to make is my hotel at the end of the night, and so I can maximize my fun and picture taking. I have these 4 routes planned in this order. The first one I did in my AWD RAV4 ack in Oct '20, so I'm somewhat familiar with that one, and if I could do that in my soft-roader (though it's actually more capable than you'd think), then I feel confident on doing it on the 890. I remember when I drove it I couldn't wait to get back and do it on a bike or in a SXS. I also did almost the entire route to Gateway but then ran out of time and turned back, so I know that one is pretty easy. The other routes are a mystery to me, but, like I said, if it looks too tough, or I'm tired, I turn back and enjoy what scenery I can. The routes are, in order of the separate days I'm going to do them: www.google.com/maps/dir/232+N+Main+St,+Monticello,+UT+84535/38.6115556,-109.1895833/38.7243021,-109.3554174/@38.2872404,-109.4991225,164446m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m25!4m24!1m5!1m1!1s0x87383a8e29e171f3:0x97cdf3148edd616b!2m2!1d-109.3426074!2d37.875778!1m15!3m4!1m2!1d-109.170958!2d38.6872932!3s0x87479546b7d71125:0xb955b4e3735a84e2!3m4!1m2!1d-109.1806501!2d38.7028701!3s0x8747bffccd07bf79:0x35be186ae24dce3e!3m4!1m2!1d-109.2204974!2d38.6885242!3s0x8747ea96951ccf33:0xab069690842586a4!1m0!3e0!5m1!1e3 www.google.com/maps/dir/232+North+Main+Street,+Monticello,+UT/38.6060472,-109.60224/38.4781913,-109.6845313/38.3108852,-109.8569625/@38.1283064,-109.7102333,164806m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m16!4m15!1m5!1m1!1s0x87383a8e29e171f3:0x97cdf3148edd616b!2m2!1d-109.3426074!2d37.875778!1m0!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-109.76573!2d38.4628754!3s0x87480fe87128a8cf:0xb6d519aed9fc50f3!1m0!3e0!5m1!1e3 www.google.com/maps/dir/232+N+Main+St,+Monticello,+UT+84535/38.5731978,-109.1466385/38.4673635,-109.1215766/38.6072548,-109.0747713/Gateway/@38.335472,-109.3351651,9z/data=!4m17!4m16!1m5!1m1!1s0x87383a8e29e171f3:0x97cdf3148edd616b!2m2!1d-109.3426074!2d37.875778!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x874774fd2158ab33:0x300b457ec88a14bf!2m2!1d-108.9768837!2d38.6806958!3e0!5m2!1e4!1e3 www.google.com/maps/dir/232+North+Main+Street,+Monticello,+UT/38.6724773,-109.6865152/38.5174788,-110.0052712/38.2758278,-109.8695912/38.4715387,-109.8115327/38.5832503,-109.8010176/@38.3225213,-109.8276626,9z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x87383a8e29e171f3:0x97cdf3148edd616b!2m2!1d-109.3426074!2d37.875778!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m0!3e0!5m1!1e3 And then this one for a day ride when I stay in Ouray before heading home South the next day via The Million Dollar: www.google.com/maps/dir/Ouray,+CO/Telluride,+CO/@38.0408568,-107.8538871,11z/data=!4m19!4m18!1m10!1m1!1s0x873f1f7caf7386f3:0x9003c80400295bdd!2m2!1d-107.6714487!2d38.0227716!3m4!1m2!1d-107.9490155!2d37.9920271!3s0x873f295e4917d607:0xc7df481328a57741!1m5!1m1!1s0x873ed87b70e6f473:0x38ee772171bae3e1!2m2!1d-107.8122852!2d37.9374939!3e0 Since I did my dirtbiking in the SoCal desert near Mojave, I don't LIKE sand, but I like things like trails with babyheads a lot less, and I've dealt with sand before. As long as it's not, like, 1' deep or more or when I'm having to dog-paddle it or constantly dig it out. Thoughts? Thanks!
Can you recommend any favorite trails that would not be too difficult. My wife has been trail riding for a couple of years but I don't want to get her into anything that puts her over her head (or me!). If you are familiar with Death Valley, we have rode Lippencott and Mengal without issue.
Thank you! I have only seen evidence of one, and it still remains at the bottom of Spring Bottom Canyon. I'm sure it happens, but hopefully not too often.
"Natural Selection Viewpoint" on the Slickrock Trail was named for a motorcyclist who had been riding up and down fins and gullies all day and when he hit the edge of the canyon, he thought it was just another hill to get over. Well, he got over it alright. 700 feet down to the highway & Colorado River below!
Thanks for the video, I live on the east coast and wanted to ride Moab forever, where can I get information on where the trails are and permits just the do’s and do nots , thanks again
Hey CDS, I need a hand holding! I'm an experienced street/track rider, but I just got a taste of light-duty offroading on my brand new 2018 Triumph Bonneville T120 and I'm hooked! Do you have a recommendation on where a noobie offroader with stock Pirelli Phantom tires could go in East/Southeast Utah (Moab/Escalante area)? My experience is limited to decent-condition gravel forestry roads up in the Wasatch Mountains,with about an 8% grade, but the bike handled it beautifully and I was pretty confident, even being a noob.
Hey man, congrats and welcome to the addiction! I would check out Chicken Corners, Onion Flats and Potash road. Potash being the easiest. I have videos of all but onion flats, but I'm sure there are tons on UA-cam. Just take it slow and get comfortable. Remember momentum is your friend and the bike can do a lot more then you think it can. The hard part to swallow is the faster you go the easier it is. Also, get up on the pegs and don't drag feet! Keep telling yourself these things over and over and eventually you'll do them. Let me know how you make out!
@@ColoradoDualSport Thank you much! It may be a few weeks before I can do it, but if you're saying Potash is the easiest then that's what I'll do. Cheers!
@@ColoradoDualSport Hey what I've seen of your Potash trail video so far, you need to do Shafer (spelling) also right? Would a 3.5gal fuel tank be sufficient? My dash says I can get about 185 miles per tank. I want to carry extra fuel somehow eventually but I haven't figured that out yet, since I want to keep the stock grab rail (we got a back rest for my lady that mounts to the stock Triumph rail).
Great info on Moab. I've never been there, but looking to go and ride the area with a tour company. One that can supply a motorcycle and guide. Can you recommend any tour companies that will do this?
We should ride sometime! I'm in Eagle County/ Edwards and always ready to ride. Older A enduro rider gone dual sport and addicted!! WR250R is my mount.
Thanks Steve! Next time we get out that way I'll hit you up! An A enduro rider? You may be waiting for me quite a bit lol. I'm the fastest of the slow guys!
That is an extremely hard one to explain. It's overlooking castle valley from the same road that Slick Rock State park is on. I forget the actual name. It's a long way past Slick Rock and to the right near a curve in the road. Sorry, but we found it by accident and those are the best directions I can give.
ColoradoDualSport Found it. Thanks. It's called Maloy Park on the National Geographic Moab South map. Its at the Northeast corner of the map. Confirmed with Google Earth. You can even see the particular boulders you guys are standing next to. Ain't technology cool. Thanks again.
Never been. I don't know if I would like it there. For some reason I think they're trying to confuse me because they call a bush a tree and they have no trees and their creeks as they call them have no water, so if the map says turn left at the creek I would keep going until I fell into one of those canyons looking for water. Don't get wrong I think the landscape is pretty. Stay safe
Nope! If you have a plate you don't need an OHV sticker period. I did the research, and only unlicensed vehicles need stickers. You can also plate quads in UT. There are strict rules attached to that though.
haha! You know, I've watched this probably a dozen times while editing and you are the first person to mention that mistake. Opps! That's what i get for trying to talk off of the top of my head.
which trail are you on? I'm from durango and climb in indian creek, but just bought a drz400 do you recommend any trails in the indian creek area, (southern entrance to canyonlands)
@@ColoradoDualSport I live on the other side of the country, East coast. Hard to view Vail Pass from here LOL!! Whats it like in May in MOAB, to be more specific I guess.
You know it is! Yep, the Mt Bikers are strong out there! I can't even believe the places I've seen people on bikes out there. I was having a heat stroke on Xena... I can't even imagine what it would be like peddling through sand!
Has anyone done rides in February. I'm aware the mountains will be closed, or just highways open. Planning 4-5 days moderate to light trails. Also monument valley...is it open to vehicles?
LOL well it is just that sketchy, but it's really not that sketchy. We spend most of our riding time next to 500+ foot drops in Colorado as well. You get used to it and it becomes no big deal.
Two things to know about Moab.. #1 - Bring lots of water so you don't die during the day. #2 - Bring warm clothes so you Don't die at night. That pretty much sums it up.
That's actually a side trail off of the road leading past Slick Rock Park. I can't remember the exact name, but get to slick rock and just keep going for 10ish miles. The view is of castle valley.
@@ColoradoDualSport cool, thanks. Will be there for memorial week. Klr650 owner. Been 6 times now so looking for some hidden trails. Live in dallas and trailor bikes to ride out there. Also do alpine loop silverton and big bend nat. Park. All 3 each year
Firetrails are always a mixed bag. Yes theyre usually groomed and have few surprises but that can lead to some overconfidence and thats when you go down. Not trying to say harder trails are any safer, but just a reminder for all. Hell Ive gone down a couple times on a fireroad simply because I was thinking about something else, just a slide but thats all it takes sometimes. Anyone have any trails they DONT recommend for larger bikes? Me and a buddy will be traveling through this summer along the TAT, Ill be on an XR650L and he'll be on a WR250R. On a 250 Im fine with single tracks with deathwalls/drops but on my 650...hell no.
Haha all very true and I've had a few very near misses myself. Avoid poison spider and the slick rock stuff if you aren't extremely confident on the 650.
April through May is ideal. Sometimes you can do mid-March, just depends on the weather that year. If you do go earlier, then expect less access to the higher elevations, like the La Sal mountains. We got snow on Easter Sunday in '16 on our way out in Salina. But it was clear by the next day. Great trip. However, Upper Porcupine Rim was still very muddy, so that portion of the Whole Enchilada and the La Sals were still out of reach first week or two of April. And by late May, it's getting really hot. Mountain biked first week of June once and it was getting out of control. Never again. But that was mountain biking, so you might be able to get further into June on motos. Only went once in Fall - November - and it was too late. Not enough daylight to get in a full day's play!
I was expecting a more informative video. Like Ness's kryptonite, Mrs Stacey's favorite spots, visual definition of colors, CDS's moments of Psychosis. You know the important stuff.
One of those videos which never get out of date.
Just subscribed to your channel. This is the first video i have watched. I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos. Thanks.
Thanks man! Hope you enjoy.
Moab is a great place, and I need to ride there more! It's just so hard when St. George has so many amazing rides that are right outside of town... still, this scenery has made me want to get back there!
We need to chat about Memorial day week. We're thinking of a trip to somewhere near Bryce or That big lake I can't remember the name of. Would be sick if you could join.
We need to chat about Memorial day week. We're thinking of a trip to somewhere near Bryce or That big lake I can't remember the name of. Would be sick if you could join.
thanks for the great pointers! planning on being there the first week of June. morning rides only, I am expecting.
Yeah, be careful! Expect to go through lots of water. You'll love it though! Wish I could go.
I'm planning on a solo trip from Salt Lake to Moab this weekend.
Yeah, boi!
Be careful if there is an emergency.
How did the trip go? I just picked up a husqvarna 701 and live in salt lake so i was curious how it went and how many days you took which i guess depends on if you road like the BDR or just street etc.
Me and some buddy’s were first around geyser pass a few years ago, in June 15th! Batteled through and around deep drifts
Super awesome video and info. Thank you !
My buddy’s and I were first around geyser pass on June 18th a few years ago. Waist deep snow in a couple of (short) sections.
Good information! I’m headed to Moab with my buddy both on dual sports end of March from Canada. Really appreciate the video.
Man you are going to love it! Just use your brain and you'll be just fine. I would strongly suggest a SPOT or InReach for your trip. I won't ride without mine now. Have fun and be safe!
Try Price next. 2 hours north of Moab, riding forever in every direction but no marked trails. Good place to motocamp and completely avoid crowds. Lots of tribal sights and cool terrain.
Great information! Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the info.
✌
Excellent. Thank you
Great video.
Another good tip for maybe a pt2 video that kinda goes with know your skill and bring water..
Bring FUEL!!!!
Know your max range and watch the half tank mark (point of safe return).
or have a buddy with backup or support vehicle waiting at a set point.
Great information! I forget that now that I have a big tank. Man, having a 60mi one way range sucked! Ps. I haven't hit reserve on the new tank yet.
Outstanding video. Thanks 🙏
Thanks!
I am from Alabama and want to start dual sporting. Your videos are absolutely the best. I am new to this and you answered all my questions. Thank you so much.
Scenery is fantabulous! Those cliffs look awfully close to the bikes. A bit scary to watch. Great tips and insight! How much water is enough and how do you carry it?
Man, I have so much to say on this subject - I go to Moab 2-3 times every year (and will, in fact, be there this Saturday.) I'm glad water was #1 on your list - that would have been my pick too!
For lodging, I usually camp at Pack Creek Campground - it's basically right in town, its cheap, and they have great facilities, with showers, water, power, etc. There are a number of good Air BnB options as well, if you have a group. I've stayed at the Apache, which is a total black flag hotel, but its cheap, and I'm not in Moab to hang out at my hotel.
Food! The Jailhouse has the best breakfast in town, bar none. For pie, go to Moab Diner. Moab Brewery is where everyone seems to want to go, but my opinion is that they are overpriced, have mediocre food, and terrible service. I'd rather go to Club Rio - it's a bit of a dive, and is off the beaten path, but they have great food and friendly service. I try to avoid giving my money to places that are anti-OHV (like Peace Tree and Eddie McStiffs.)
Great video, CDS. Good topic!
Haha! I knew this one would get a great comment from you. All very good information! Also, you can no longer sleep in my house after staying at the Apache. Lord knows what you might have picked up in that place! I completely agree about the Moab Brewery. Way over priced, crap service and the food is not good. Food can be an issue in Moab if you dont' know your way around. The side streets hold some gems though. Pantele's Deli is amazing! Also slow service, but worth the wait.
+ColoradoDualSport Well, our stay at the Apache was after camping for 3 nights in rain/sleet/show in sub-30 degree weather. We were sold cold, wet, and miserable, we decided to say "F it!" and get a hotel - it was basically our only option at the time :( Yeah. Total dump, but at least it was warm and dry :D
Thanks, great info. I guess if I stay at the Apache I'll just put my tent and bag on the floor and call it good.
+The FLB Club I been to the Apache more then you and it's always fine...LOL Bowen is a lot better though but you pay for it.
@@ColoradoDualSport Could you post the names of each trail featured in this video? Thanks!
This video makes me mad thirsty! Man, I love Utah. Great tips... when we riding Moab again?
Great scenery & the resolution of the camera is great...Thanks for sharing the need to know....I think it's always a good idea to ride with at least one other person for a variety of reason...Happy Trails !!
Thanks man! That's the good o'l GoPro Hero 2. Still the most indestructible and reliable action cam out there in my opinion at least. I agree, but I do ride alone some times. When i do I find myself avoiding challenges though which I don't like.
I live in salt lake. I’m truly disappointed in myself for never exploring the beautiful state that I live in. Iv never owned a vehicle capable of taking me to these kinds of places. But this winter I’m buying my first dual sport so I can start to see more of this country.
Excellent video! Pleasant, informative, beautiful. No filler. Great job!
What is the biggest dual sport you would recommend. I was thinking of honda crf 450rl, maybe a ktm 500. I di have a triumph tiger 900 rally pro but I think this bike is big and heavy and I need more experience with this bike before doing something like that. I am sure it could be done but I have only been riding for a year and a half and I am 51. I think maybe a 450 or 500. I learned riding on a 1990 yamaha xt350. The 350 would be a good choice but it is carb. Not sure if this makes a difference in the dessert but altitude will affect it. Awesome video and great things to consider that is why I am asking. I would rather go have a great time on the right bike. Than wish I didn't take the triumph or something like that. Thanks
awesome video man. keep up the good work. your the reason i bought my bike. thanks for the inspiration
+bdubs180 I second the motion.
Thanks man! Glad to hear your getting out there and enjoying it!
+ColoradoDualSport thanks to you and mr. everide!
I’m planning a trip to southern Utah in April 2021 for 3 weeks. I have a Honda CRF 250 L Rally. I’m planning on camping. I have a roof top tent on my 4Runner, with a solar powered refrigerator in the back. I have a rack on the back so I’ll carry the bike from Tennessee out there. I would love to hook up with some other riders. I’m also planning to go to the “big five” national parks and some state parks.
Have fun on your trip man!
moveovermike that would be cool. We’ll talk more as the time approaches. Email me your contact information at gburl3@gmail.com. Then we can talk more.
great info, thanks!
Great information CDS - thanks for sharing, especially for someone not from the area! =0)
Another great video, with outstanding advice! Thank you Sir.
Man you ain't kidding about needing water... Learned that the hard way haha
I think you hit most of the important stuff. Its hard to explain to some people because they just wont understand until they're already there. People think they will be used to the heat because it gets hot where they live and plan an August trip thinking it will be no big deal. Keep up the good work.
Haha! I'll tell you, I wish I had this video before our first trip out there! We had no idea what we were getting into. Never again will we do a mid summer Moab trip. Thanks brother!
If you go in August, learn German. Germans flock to the desert in August, which also happens to be their month off.
We should require they bring beer!!!
Sick exposure !! I'm relatively new to dirt bike trail riding . I live and ride in the Santa Fe NM area which is great fun but , I really need to branch out after seeing this clip. Thanks for all the cool footage
That is amazing
Wow
Those vistas are breathtaking. Amazing.
Thanks! Yes, Moab is one of my favorite places on the planet.
+ColoradoDualSport you said you had water in the camera housing. Was that because there is a hole drilled in it for the mic?
+ColoradoDualSport Who is that Noel guy? Lurch is way cooler. ;)
Yes, but that hole is nearly sealed when the Mic is plugged in. I've ridden in rain storms and never had that happen before. Just gives you an idea of how much rain it was! A little scary, but awesome as hell!
Funny, I call my friend Kevin Lurch lol.
Great video CDS! This place is on my bucket list.
The possibility of flash floods is pretty high in spring too..be careful with tent placement or you'll watch it float away..
goodday thanks for the remainder .have been watching them have a good one
Good call on the water!
Stunning scenery and great advice. Hopefully I'll get the DRZ down there some day.
Great information. Something to aspire to!
Nice vid! Any nice rides doable in the AM before it gets too hot? I've got middle of August open :( but I'm from TX, so used to extreme heat :). Fins n Things looks cool; and Potash to Shafer,...
Best 14 days by myself ever
Beautiful video!! I just bought a Honda XR650L. I'm excited to get it out!
Thank you! Heck yeah man! Enjoy that thing!
Nice timing CDS, headed out from PA this Friday and hope to be in Moab Saturday for the week on my dualsport! Weather looks like it will be perfect, can't wait!
Thanks man! So Mrs.Stacey and I are confused. Are you flying? That's like a 40hr ride if not.
+ColoradoDualSport Start the drive tomorrow. Hauling my WR250R out there. Meeting my dad and a buddy. Estimate 24 hour drive time.
@@JoshuaHillFamilyADV was it worth it?
@@chase5224 for sure, I would do it again in a heart beat!!!
As a local, we get lots of time in in the summer mornings and evenings. Riding in the fall up to Chistmas is usually fine. Shhhh. Don't tell the UTV crowd.
The last shot is that Schaffer switch backs
Yes indeed. LOVE 'EM!!!
At scenery was just amazing now I want to come out and ride
Great clip! Thanks for posting and for the channel. As of this post, Moab is shut down - even the sketchy hotels - along with a NPS and BLM trails, camping and dispersed camping. Check for updates as we get beyond the pandemic.
I am trying to get there in May of 2018. Thanks for the tips!
So cool man! Dying to see moab!
Could you list the trails you've been in this one?
Keep going I love your vids!
Felix, I have full vidoes of each of those trails. Check out the playlist section on my channel page and look for the Moab playlist! Hope that helps.
Thanks! I'll check it out! :)
Great tip's. I'm planning a trip in the fall. I'm planning on just boon docking out in the sticks somewhere and riding everything I can. Still not sure if I'm gonna trailer the bike behind the Jeep or ride it out. (crossing Nevada on a DRZ seems kinda daunting) I've always wanted to do some Moab wheeling in the jeep though. Thanks for the info it really does help with my planning for the trip. See ya next week!
My advice would be to take the jeep and have it as a home base with supplies etc. The drive to Moab can be a bit boring and doing long highway stretches on a DRZ just sucks... I think we can admit that.
sweet ,and nice report
Awesome video
headed there next weekend, not too worried about the remoteness ;)
Factory Butte area is beautiful as well, and you can all ways hit up swing arm city!
Boom! New area to check out! Thanks man.
If you find some ant hills stop by and look in them, sometimes you can find shark teeth along with the little rocks the ants grab.
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL! 10:47 Holy crap! I drove by the moab exit on hwy. 70 once :( Great advice sir!
Thanks man! Driving by the exit doesn't even being to expose you to what is over there! Absolutely worth making the trip back if you can. I friggin love that place.
Beautiful just that !!!
One of the most beautiful places on the planet!
+ColoradoDualSport You are lucky :)
Ok, I'm sold. When is the earliest and latest in the year that a person can ride without running into snow?
goodbay well done it's a magnificent area only one problem need more footage of the area thanks
Erik, look at the playlist section on my channel there is one with hours of Moab vidoes! Just for you!
Man, what beautiful scenery and pucker - factor drop offs! Would you recommend Rotopax for water and gas or is a camelback adequate for water? Also, consider an evaporative vest for hot weather riding, maybe pack a small umbrella for emergency shade, power bars or gels to keep you thinking straight. "nutnfancy" on YT has good advice on first aid kits. This place just became a higher ranking bucket list destination! Thanks CDS.
Well that really depends on ride length. If you are just going for a days outing a camel-back and a few bottles of water would be sufficient. I normally carry at a minimum 2 large bottles for each person. We may not use all of it, but anything left over can be used the next day. I always like to be over prepared just in case. Yes, I've seen those vests and I think tyler has one. I'll check it out next time I'm down there.
Greetings! Nice vid, great scenery, and very informative. I'm returning to dirtbiking after 3 decades of riding streetbikes with no dirt riding and am riding a 2021 KTM 890 Adventure R (I bought new in Jan 2021). I'm starting to feel more confident on it, but am definitely not to the level I was back in the '90's on my KX500 (currently prepping to sell it). Since the bike is new to me, it's twice the size of my last "dirtbike", I'll be riding alone, and I'm way out of practice, I wanted to get your thoughts on EASY but scenic trails around Moab. I am ok with doing LONG days of riding, but since I'll be solo and for the reasons I mentioned, I don't want anything too difficult. I want to cover a lot fo ground at a good to decent pace, not do really short stretches of difficult roads/trails that still take all day. do you have any suggestions? Thanks, and ride safe!
Awesome man, glad to hear you are getting back into riding. That's a pretty heavy bike for the sand riding that makes up a decent portion of Moab. I would try Chicken Corners, Schafer Tail to Potash rd. Maybe valley of the gods. Also Beef Basin. I wouldn't try to do White Rim though. The majority of the trail is fine, but right at the end there is a stretch of deep sand. Hope that helps a bit. Watch lots of videos. The riding is endless, just trust your gut and carry more water then you think you need. Have a blast!
@@ColoradoDualSport Yeah, she's a big girl, but she can still dance! I look at it this way, I have "planned" routes, but if something gets too difficult, I'll simply turn back and find somewhere else to ride. I ride to have fun, and if I'm dropping it ever 5min, it ceases to be fun. I look at it like the only destination I HAVE to make is my hotel at the end of the night, and so I can maximize my fun and picture taking. I have these 4 routes planned in this order. The first one I did in my AWD RAV4 ack in Oct '20, so I'm somewhat familiar with that one, and if I could do that in my soft-roader (though it's actually more capable than you'd think), then I feel confident on doing it on the 890. I remember when I drove it I couldn't wait to get back and do it on a bike or in a SXS. I also did almost the entire route to Gateway but then ran out of time and turned back, so I know that one is pretty easy. The other routes are a mystery to me, but, like I said, if it looks too tough, or I'm tired, I turn back and enjoy what scenery I can. The routes are, in order of the separate days I'm going to do them:
www.google.com/maps/dir/232+N+Main+St,+Monticello,+UT+84535/38.6115556,-109.1895833/38.7243021,-109.3554174/@38.2872404,-109.4991225,164446m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m25!4m24!1m5!1m1!1s0x87383a8e29e171f3:0x97cdf3148edd616b!2m2!1d-109.3426074!2d37.875778!1m15!3m4!1m2!1d-109.170958!2d38.6872932!3s0x87479546b7d71125:0xb955b4e3735a84e2!3m4!1m2!1d-109.1806501!2d38.7028701!3s0x8747bffccd07bf79:0x35be186ae24dce3e!3m4!1m2!1d-109.2204974!2d38.6885242!3s0x8747ea96951ccf33:0xab069690842586a4!1m0!3e0!5m1!1e3
www.google.com/maps/dir/232+North+Main+Street,+Monticello,+UT/38.6060472,-109.60224/38.4781913,-109.6845313/38.3108852,-109.8569625/@38.1283064,-109.7102333,164806m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m16!4m15!1m5!1m1!1s0x87383a8e29e171f3:0x97cdf3148edd616b!2m2!1d-109.3426074!2d37.875778!1m0!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-109.76573!2d38.4628754!3s0x87480fe87128a8cf:0xb6d519aed9fc50f3!1m0!3e0!5m1!1e3
www.google.com/maps/dir/232+N+Main+St,+Monticello,+UT+84535/38.5731978,-109.1466385/38.4673635,-109.1215766/38.6072548,-109.0747713/Gateway/@38.335472,-109.3351651,9z/data=!4m17!4m16!1m5!1m1!1s0x87383a8e29e171f3:0x97cdf3148edd616b!2m2!1d-109.3426074!2d37.875778!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x874774fd2158ab33:0x300b457ec88a14bf!2m2!1d-108.9768837!2d38.6806958!3e0!5m2!1e4!1e3
www.google.com/maps/dir/232+North+Main+Street,+Monticello,+UT/38.6724773,-109.6865152/38.5174788,-110.0052712/38.2758278,-109.8695912/38.4715387,-109.8115327/38.5832503,-109.8010176/@38.3225213,-109.8276626,9z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x87383a8e29e171f3:0x97cdf3148edd616b!2m2!1d-109.3426074!2d37.875778!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m0!3e0!5m1!1e3
And then this one for a day ride when I stay in Ouray before heading home South the next day via The Million Dollar:
www.google.com/maps/dir/Ouray,+CO/Telluride,+CO/@38.0408568,-107.8538871,11z/data=!4m19!4m18!1m10!1m1!1s0x873f1f7caf7386f3:0x9003c80400295bdd!2m2!1d-107.6714487!2d38.0227716!3m4!1m2!1d-107.9490155!2d37.9920271!3s0x873f295e4917d607:0xc7df481328a57741!1m5!1m1!1s0x873ed87b70e6f473:0x38ee772171bae3e1!2m2!1d-107.8122852!2d37.9374939!3e0
Since I did my dirtbiking in the SoCal desert near Mojave, I don't LIKE sand, but I like things like trails with babyheads a lot less, and I've dealt with sand before. As long as it's not, like, 1' deep or more or when I'm having to dog-paddle it or constantly dig it out.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Can you recommend any favorite trails that would not be too difficult. My wife has been trail riding for a couple of years but I don't want to get her into anything that puts her over her head (or me!). If you are familiar with Death Valley, we have rode Lippencott and Mengal without issue.
Unbelievable footage. Are there a lot of stories of people riding off the edge?
Thank you! I have only seen evidence of one, and it still remains at the bottom of Spring Bottom Canyon. I'm sure it happens, but hopefully not too often.
"Natural Selection Viewpoint" on the Slickrock Trail was named for a motorcyclist who had been riding up and down fins and gullies all day and when he hit the edge of the canyon, he thought it was just another hill to get over. Well, he got over it alright. 700 feet down to the highway & Colorado River below!
Thanks for the video, I live on the east coast and wanted to ride Moab forever, where can I get information on where the trails are and permits just the do’s and do nots , thanks again
Hey CDS, I need a hand holding! I'm an experienced street/track rider, but I just got a taste of light-duty offroading on my brand new 2018 Triumph Bonneville T120 and I'm hooked! Do you have a recommendation on where a noobie offroader with stock Pirelli Phantom tires could go in East/Southeast Utah (Moab/Escalante area)? My experience is limited to decent-condition gravel forestry roads up in the Wasatch Mountains,with about an 8% grade, but the bike handled it beautifully and I was pretty confident, even being a noob.
Hey man, congrats and welcome to the addiction! I would check out Chicken Corners, Onion Flats and Potash road. Potash being the easiest. I have videos of all but onion flats, but I'm sure there are tons on UA-cam. Just take it slow and get comfortable. Remember momentum is your friend and the bike can do a lot more then you think it can. The hard part to swallow is the faster you go the easier it is. Also, get up on the pegs and don't drag feet! Keep telling yourself these things over and over and eventually you'll do them. Let me know how you make out!
@@ColoradoDualSport Thank you much! It may be a few weeks before I can do it, but if you're saying Potash is the easiest then that's what I'll do. Cheers!
@@ColoradoDualSport Hey what I've seen of your Potash trail video so far, you need to do Shafer (spelling) also right? Would a 3.5gal fuel tank be sufficient? My dash says I can get about 185 miles per tank. I want to carry extra fuel somehow eventually but I haven't figured that out yet, since I want to keep the stock grab rail (we got a back rest for my lady that mounts to the stock Triumph rail).
Great info on Moab. I've never been there, but looking to go and ride the area with a tour company. One that can supply a motorcycle and guide. Can you recommend any tour companies that will do this?
I don't know of any in Moab, but I strongly recommend taking to Tyler at eveRide.org for awesome trips.
We should ride sometime! I'm in Eagle County/ Edwards and always ready to ride. Older A enduro rider gone dual sport and addicted!! WR250R is my mount.
Thanks Steve! Next time we get out that way I'll hit you up! An A enduro rider? You may be waiting for me quite a bit lol. I'm the fastest of the slow guys!
The drop-off scared me to death
What is that trail/overlook at 10:30? Only been to Moab once but definitely going back. This video makes me miss it even more.
That is an extremely hard one to explain. It's overlooking castle valley from the same road that Slick Rock State park is on. I forget the actual name. It's a long way past Slick Rock and to the right near a curve in the road. Sorry, but we found it by accident and those are the best directions I can give.
LEFT! It's a lef not a right.
ColoradoDualSport Found it. Thanks. It's called Maloy Park on the National Geographic Moab South map. Its at the Northeast corner of the map. Confirmed with Google Earth. You can even see the particular boulders you guys are standing next to. Ain't technology cool. Thanks again.
I live in famrington, nm you should come down to Durango, co and ride Hermosa creek with me sometime.
Very Nice
Thank you!
Never been. I don't know if I would like it there. For some reason I think they're trying to confuse me because they call a bush a tree and they have no trees and their creeks as they call them have no water, so if the map says turn left at the creek I would keep going until I fell into one of those canyons looking for water. Don't get wrong I think the landscape is pretty. Stay safe
Haha! You are exactly right. However, though it is different, the riding is extraordinary.
Good one!
I can pull some good stuff out of thin air when I need to eh? Haha! Thanks brother. Sorry I missed you last weekend.
I can pull some good stuff out of thin air when I need to eh? Haha! Thanks brother. Sorry I missed you last weekend.
no riding there in winter?
FYI, I believe a license plate only covers trails that vehicles can go on. If your doing single track you still need the OHV sticker. Cheers
Nope! If you have a plate you don't need an OHV sticker period. I did the research, and only unlicensed vehicles need stickers. You can also plate quads in UT. There are strict rules attached to that though.
+ColoradoDualSport hmm, interesting is that the same and Colorado?
good video, it's Jonny Walker btw not Jeremy
haha! You know, I've watched this probably a dozen times while editing and you are the first person to mention that mistake. Opps! That's what i get for trying to talk off of the top of my head.
Do you know if Utah has a deal like Colorado, where having a fishing license covers your mountain rescue costs?
which trail are you on? I'm from durango and climb in indian creek, but just bought a drz400 do you recommend any trails in the indian creek area, (southern entrance to canyonlands)
Good advice how did Ms Stacies xt do and were you in Canyonlands park.
April, May is considered spring in the desert? Did not hear an actual month? Thanks!
Basically as soon as it's safe to get a trailer over Vail Pass. We tried for March if possible.
@@ColoradoDualSport I live on the other side of the country, East coast. Hard to view Vail Pass from here LOL!! Whats it like in May in MOAB, to be more specific I guess.
We went once on memorial day weekend and it was way to late. 100° and awful. So the time gap between 50-70° is pretty small.
@@ColoradoDualSport Thanks.
Moab is the bomb.com been there many times. We use to ride mt. Bikes there!
You know it is! Yep, the Mt Bikers are strong out there! I can't even believe the places I've seen people on bikes out there. I was having a heat stroke on Xena... I can't even imagine what it would be like peddling through sand!
@@ColoradoDualSport sand SUCKS!!!! (But now with fat bikes, it's do-able. Problem is, you have to drag a fat bike the entire ride!!!)
Has anyone done rides in February. I'm aware the mountains will be closed, or just highways open. Planning 4-5 days moderate to light trails. Also monument valley...is it open to vehicles?
Monument Valley will definitely be good riding. Moab, would be hit or miss for snow.
Cool. Thanks.
What ratio of dirt/street tires do you usually use?
On the DRZ and XT we run the D606 which is a 90/10 tire. On the AT and BMW we run 50/50 tires.
Some of that exposure looks pretty scary. Is it just the camera or is it really sketchy?
LOL well it is just that sketchy, but it's really not that sketchy. We spend most of our riding time next to 500+ foot drops in Colorado as well. You get used to it and it becomes no big deal.
If you say so!! I still envy you. Keep 'em coming.
This video was in white Rim right Canyonlands national park ?
Wait, no, this video is shot all over Moab. I know there is some fins n things, chicken corners and Schaffer trail to white rim at the end.
Two things to know about Moab..
#1 - Bring lots of water so you don't die during the day.
#2 - Bring warm clothes so you Don't die at night.
That pretty much sums it up.
That pretty much does sum it up. It's hellish, but those conditions have made one spectacular place.
That pretty much does sum it up. It's hellish, but those conditions have made one spectacular place.
What trail were you on that lead to that massive view (In the accommodations portion of the video)?
That's actually a side trail off of the road leading past Slick Rock Park. I can't remember the exact name, but get to slick rock and just keep going for 10ish miles. The view is of castle valley.
@@ColoradoDualSport Thanks. Might be Sand Flats Road that cuts through that park and up to the La Sal Loop road?
That's the one. If you tell them you aren't riding slick rock they won't charge you.
@@ColoradoDualSport cool, thanks. Will be there for memorial week. Klr650 owner. Been 6 times now so looking for some hidden trails. Live in dallas and trailor bikes to ride out there. Also do alpine loop silverton and big bend nat. Park. All 3 each year
Which trail are you on around the 6:00 minute mark?
Thanks!
curious... what kind of trail could a 4 wheel drive do that a bike couldn't? You say this. TY
There are a few out there. Unless you are Johnny Walker or Gram Jarvis, in that case I doubt you would be watching my videos.
HAHA we stayed at the lazy lizard , Sketchy but it worked
Firetrails are always a mixed bag. Yes theyre usually groomed and have few surprises but that can lead to some overconfidence and thats when you go down. Not trying to say harder trails are any safer, but just a reminder for all. Hell Ive gone down a couple times on a fireroad simply because I was thinking about something else, just a slide but thats all it takes sometimes.
Anyone have any trails they DONT recommend for larger bikes? Me and a buddy will be traveling through this summer along the TAT, Ill be on an XR650L and he'll be on a WR250R. On a 250 Im fine with single tracks with deathwalls/drops but on my 650...hell no.
Haha all very true and I've had a few very near misses myself. Avoid poison spider and the slick rock stuff if you aren't extremely confident on the 650.
@@ColoradoDualSport Avoid Amasa Back too!!!
where exactly is this
When you say spring do you mean like early April or mid May?
That all depends on the weather in Vail CO. When we can get over Vail pass safely with a trailer on 70 the time is right.
Cool. We're planning a trip for early April and it seems the Alpine loop doesn't open till May, so scoping out options.
April through May is ideal. Sometimes you can do mid-March, just depends on the weather that year. If you do go earlier, then expect less access to the higher elevations, like the La Sal mountains.
We got snow on Easter Sunday in '16 on our way out in Salina. But it was clear by the next day. Great trip. However, Upper Porcupine Rim was still very muddy, so that portion of the Whole Enchilada and the La Sals were still out of reach first week or two of April.
And by late May, it's getting really hot.
Mountain biked first week of June once and it was getting out of control. Never again. But that was mountain biking, so you might be able to get further into June on motos.
Only went once in Fall - November - and it was too late. Not enough daylight to get in a full day's play!
So when is the best time to go ?
Spring or Fall. You have to time it right so that it's not snowing and not 150°.
ping me when you are in the sierra nevadas!
Would love to ride out there! Where abouts are you?
Gold Country - Rubicon, Georgetown, Foresthill, just below Lake Tahoe area. Check out google maps, lots of trails.
Is there any way to contact you via email to discuss riding Moab on a hefty old GS
I am planning on heading in from Canada (east coast)
Hey man, best way to chat is the Facebook page linked in the description of every video.
Moab.....it's alright I guess.... ;)
KIller video footage...
I was expecting a more informative video. Like Ness's kryptonite, Mrs Stacey's favorite spots, visual definition of colors, CDS's moments of Psychosis. You know the important stuff.
This was related to a previous joke
haha.. :)
I want to see the rest of this ride, it was too short of a video.
There is an entire Moab playlist on the channel with all of these rides full videos.
One day....sigh.....one day.
Do it! There is no excuse!
ColoradoDualSport Beg to differ...lol.