"This card will unfortunately be returning to it's rightful owner last week." Thank you for the temporal BSOD. Press any key to restart thought processes.
Valorant sucks on all systems except native windows. Their anticheat is a nightmare. Easy anticheat works on pretty much all vms with a little configuration and is way more widely used.
The P4 is a beast. I have setup in a little 1U Rack mount server with a Xeon CPU E3-1231 v3 and 32GB Ram and 2-SSD's. Also Sunshine+Moonlight is a kickass combo. Setting this up for my Kid to play Minecraft with my wife from her Chromebook.
"It's the bandwidth captain, getting it down isn't the problem, it's getting it back up" was expecting it to be followed by "Hi I'm Jeff and this little blue pill..."
Nice testing! I'm currently waiting on two server, one with A16 and another with A40 for VDI for rendering. We already have RTX8000 on the premiss. Maybe RTX8000 is somethign you want to try also? I enjoy your content! keep on rolling! thanks!
I wonder how that particular GPU would work with DaVinci Resolve. I have been looking for a way to use such GPU Compute cards for that. I know that there have been many that attempted to use the older Teslas to limited or no success but given these have RTX cores and with your many demonstrations it works for the gaming side. But what about bare metal, on prem performance? I am looking to move to the RTX A series of quadros to repurpose my 1080TIs (yes I still rock those) the reason I moved almost exclusively to Quadros was due to the lack of GeForce cards during the pandemic. It was a plentiful pool of decent cards that I enjoy to this day. Thanks for the content. Very enlightening and gives me many ideas for my deployments..
AMD has never publicly released MxGPU drivers. They're all behind system integrator / OEM paywalls, despite being 'license free'. I'd love to be able to do content with them, but haven't found a way to make that happen yet.
The biggest limitation for cloud gaming on this card is the quad dies. Only one gets used for a game. If there was a 64GB card with a pair of power limited 3090 dies, it would absolutely rock for that. Unfortunately, you can't cut up a 3090 32 ways and expect things to work that well. A single 3050 going 16 ways is a lot more manageable.
Can't really see myself using Linode. Volunteering at a computer repair place and preforming my builds since I was a teen, the build and maintenance of my PC is as weird as it sounds, relaxing.
I'm with you when it comes to building your own (gaming) PC, I still do it and I turned 40 this year. However for services that you host that other people use as well, like for example Nextcloud, a VPS at for example Linode is a way better option because it needs to always be available and reliable. I used to host stuff on a home server, but at some point I just didn't want to deal with the hassle of hardware maintenance and the accompanying downtime anymore.
@@RudyBleeker Yeah, I totally see the appeal of availability for businesses, or people that want to host games; I guess that such a necessity never really applied to me. Honestly though, it raises it's own issues like privacy or security; take VPNs for example, you're trusting your traffic you expect to remain private to a 3rd party on word of mouth alone, another is that these businesses are forward facing making them a prime target of attack, sometimes it's a mix of the two, like that controversy with NordVPN.
@@festro1000 VPNs are indeed a mixed bag. Basically you're shifting the issue of the privacy/secrecy of your outgoing traffic from your ISP (at home or mobile) to the VPN provider. The question always remains: who do you trust (more)? Back to the subject of hosting services though, I personally think Linode is a trustworthy partner for that, but opinions may vary.
Hi Craft Computing, Could you make a video with your sponsor Linode showing how to use GPU instances in the VDI environment? I think that would be very exciting as well.
I would have liked to see what the performance of 64 VMs is like. Can it handle 64 youtube videos? Can it really replace 64 $2k laptops? sub $1k laptops come can come with rtx 3060s, so I quite skeptical. I can imagine it provide $150 level of performance 64 ways, but what can you really do with that?
I really wish I could do something like this at my Work. We have moved away from Phyiscal hardware but I would love to try this on a nice cheap 2U Rackmount server! hum.. Maybe I can try
I find funny that while this card costs like 9k, and can run 64 virtual desktops, for a little it more than half it's price, you could buy 64 1050's still.
Thing is, it reduces the number of required PCIe slots to run those 64 virtual desktops, one of these on a single server can run 64 desktops, while 64 1050s would require 64 PCIe slots. The end cost justifies the price of the card. Not to mention, it's more supposed to replace company provided laptops, which can cost several thousand dollars each. So it's actually a banger of a value.
@@JulianUccetta Completely agree. Granted you better have some badass NVME Raid Storage to use for Profile storage.... and General VM storage as well but I drool at the thought of what I could build now that I understand how this tech works! I blame Jeff for sending me down this cool rabbit hole with his P4 video! Maybe I can talk my boss into letting me do a Proof of Concept!
I find it funny that you even consider doing something so silly. 1050 eats 75W. 64 x 75W = 4.8KW. That's enough power to power 19 A16, each running a fleet of virtual desktops.
fun question with the a16 4 different GPUs, can each of them split into different slices? say 8 - 2gb chunks, 4 - 4gb chunks, 2 - 8gb, and 1 - 16gb chunk? or do all have to split equally?
The four GPUs show up individually in the OS. You can only use a single GPU profile at a time on each GPU, but that would allow you to divide the GPUs like you propose.
@@CraftComputing i'm interested in running older lower end games like sins of a solar empire, total war rome 2, rimworld, project zomboid, battle brothers. . . . . at most 720p @ 15fps.
Please, please get a Tesla P4 or something similar running in a desktop VM under ESXi. I run a Horizon installation in my lab and am looking for a way to use the P4 without a license server and recurring charge. Thanks!
Hello, have you tried any new Gpus like a100, v100, rtx 8000? If yes i would like to know which have the best performance as m60 and m40 gpus aren't available nearby to me
I love those parfait glasses, right when you need just /that/ amount of fancy I highly reccomend Story Teller, it is a superdense Cabernet Sauvignon, I usually go for hard alcohol, and this is my favorite
In my opinion, a Tesla T40 / P40 / M40 is the sweet spot for a home lab; for virtualization. NVIDIA *open-sourced* the vGPU driver recently so it is a matter of time for Proxmox to support it out of the box. Unfortunately the open source driver only supports RTX Touring or newer; the driver for Pascal and Maxwell is still closed source. On another topic… I wonder how a Tesla P40 would run with a Kraken G12 + 240mm / 280mm AIO
only issue I am running into is powering these cards. they use eps12 connectors, which limits how you effectivly wire them. I thought I could cheat and use a bitcoin mining powersupply setup [hp server psu+ breakout board then breakout board to six pin combining two six pins to make the 8 pin connector]
Hello Jef how are you? a question if possible? I created a win 10 VM inside proxmox and running cinebench r23 i realized the cpu is running in stock speed...? do you happen to know how to activate the native turbo boost from the cpu for this vm ? thanks!!! my setup epyc 7532 + x12ssl-i
LOL I wonder how many streams these cards could decode/encode at the same time, whether it's comparable to dedicated transcoding silicon from the likes of Alveo... cause if the quality, stream count and speed is comparable or better, and the power draw is similar, and it is still capable of driving regular desktop sessions as well when not focusing on the media side of things, it could be a great media/home-server addition once it gets severely price-cut ;) After all, you can have several family members just web-browse/office-work with it, all the while having processing power to go through media streams for the media server duties...
NVIDIA A10 is a way better card for cloud gaming since it's the main driving force of GeForce Now in the moment, having RTX 3080 level of performance, allowing up to 24 VMs with 1gb of VRAM, and it's like 2/3 the price, where I live
Id like to see you use a tesla p100 16gb. Card is an absolute monster running gta5 at 1440p max settings (no advanced settings) at around 140 fps. Cant really say the same for cyberpunk as the driver i use came out before the game its self so i can only manage 30 fps at 1080p max settings no fsr.
I don't understand why they included RT cored on that card at all P.S.: This is what I like, I couldn't believe VDI and all it can be done with that technology and its exploitation :)
using cpu video currently rocket lake 11600k has its downs for gaming if i put a gpu in the system ill get like 70 percent of the gpu still using the cpu vid out on the mobo 128 vid gamers in a meet i assume there are rolls to play what do i need to support a 128 game for critics what we get on the gamer end is relative real-estate changes im waiting for the hard card to connect to the super computer neon colors or attitude i say its attitude
Doom always does better than on other games no matter what card I see reviewed. I suspect this is because of vulcan. If I am right. wide spread vulcan adoption will once again allow decent gamming performance on SINGLE SLOT GRAPHICS CARDS.
i really like the analogy of it being like a city bus not a super car
yep, its perfect - a bus can fit 50+ people but goes far slower than a single-seat formula one car
I guess that specifically for Gaming a GeForce RTX 2080 Ti would work better but you can only run 2 instances (two VMs) at the same time
Love the custom ad reads at the beginning!
you should see how silly we are in the Discord!
@@ghomerhust you just convinced me to join Discord lol
That linode ad was absolutely amazing
"This card will unfortunately be returning to it's rightful owner last week."
Thank you for the temporal BSOD.
Press any key to restart thought processes.
Ohhh that's where the Kanar went!
Have you discussed the limitations of anti cheat games such as valorant in this sort of configuration
Valorant sucks on all systems except native windows. Their anticheat is a nightmare.
Easy anticheat works on pretty much all vms with a little configuration and is way more widely used.
Don't ever let your main paradigm couplers out of alignment, use Linode.
I think that was my favorite add yet! great job
He certainly takes advertising to a better level :)
The P4 is a beast. I have setup in a little 1U Rack mount server with a Xeon CPU E3-1231 v3 and 32GB Ram and 2-SSD's. Also Sunshine+Moonlight is a kickass combo. Setting this up for my Kid to play Minecraft with my wife from her Chromebook.
As a wine lover I had to give this video a like.
I thought his bong hasn't been washed in forever until I realized it was his drink
Upvoting simply because of your creative sponsor advertising skit. I enjoy your sponsor intro just as much as your actual video content.
When I first cracked the video open I thought you were holding a bong 🤣
I thought 'gee this has really stepped up a notch - and I'm ok with that.'
that add spot was great
"It's the bandwidth captain, getting it down isn't the problem, it's getting it back up" was expecting it to be followed by "Hi I'm Jeff and this little blue pill..."
That intro was classic
More star trek themed merchandise pls
Very cool of your anonymous benefactor to loan you that card so we can all learn!
when i think of this channel i think of beer and gaming servers
Nice testing! I'm currently waiting on two server, one with A16 and another with A40 for VDI for rendering. We already have RTX8000 on the premiss. Maybe RTX8000 is somethign you want to try also? I enjoy your content! keep on rolling! thanks!
If you're offering, ding him over Twitter. It's the only free channel you can reliably reach him on.
I wonder how that particular GPU would work with DaVinci Resolve. I have been looking for a way to use such GPU Compute cards for that. I know that there have been many that attempted to use the older Teslas to limited or no success but given these have RTX cores and with your many demonstrations it works for the gaming side. But what about bare metal, on prem performance? I am looking to move to the RTX A series of quadros to repurpose my 1080TIs (yes I still rock those) the reason I moved almost exclusively to Quadros was due to the lack of GeForce cards during the pandemic. It was a plentiful pool of decent cards that I enjoy to this day.
Thanks for the content. Very enlightening and gives me many ideas for my deployments..
Did you ever find a solution? I’m in a similar boat and be curious to hear any conclusions you might’ve made
Have you looked at the AMD Pro V620 and/or V520 cards, they are made for VDI. I see a V620 on EBAY for $999 which is similar to a RX 6800
AMD has never publicly released MxGPU drivers. They're all behind system integrator / OEM paywalls, despite being 'license free'. I'd love to be able to do content with them, but haven't found a way to make that happen yet.
@@CraftComputing damn that sucks, I would get into this if it was more open
I love the Star Trek things in your videos!
Would you look at that, IT WAS Kanar! Been wondering the whole time wtf it could be with such a bottle lol
Wine for Cardassian elite or Kardashian elite?
if it wasn't for the wine in the bottle, i would have taken the bottle for a bong!
The biggest limitation for cloud gaming on this card is the quad dies. Only one gets used for a game. If there was a 64GB card with a pair of power limited 3090 dies, it would absolutely rock for that. Unfortunately, you can't cut up a 3090 32 ways and expect things to work that well. A single 3050 going 16 ways is a lot more manageable.
Looks like a bottle of Kanar at the start. DS9 anyone?
It is a bottle of Kanar. He reviews it at the end.
@@rett.isawesome no shit?! Haha thx. I obviously didn’t finish the video. 🖖
@@rett.isawesome btw, remember when Kanar was orange in earlier episodes? Heh
I like the Kanar bottle.
Can't really see myself using Linode. Volunteering at a computer repair place and preforming my builds since I was a teen, the build and maintenance of my PC is as weird as it sounds, relaxing.
I'm with you when it comes to building your own (gaming) PC, I still do it and I turned 40 this year. However for services that you host that other people use as well, like for example Nextcloud, a VPS at for example Linode is a way better option because it needs to always be available and reliable. I used to host stuff on a home server, but at some point I just didn't want to deal with the hassle of hardware maintenance and the accompanying downtime anymore.
@@RudyBleeker Yeah, I totally see the appeal of availability for businesses, or people that want to host games; I guess that such a necessity never really applied to me. Honestly though, it raises it's own issues like privacy or security; take VPNs for example, you're trusting your traffic you expect to remain private to a 3rd party on word of mouth alone, another is that these businesses are forward facing making them a prime target of attack, sometimes it's a mix of the two, like that controversy with NordVPN.
@@festro1000 VPNs are indeed a mixed bag. Basically you're shifting the issue of the privacy/secrecy of your outgoing traffic from your ISP (at home or mobile) to the VPN provider. The question always remains: who do you trust (more)? Back to the subject of hosting services though, I personally think Linode is a trustworthy partner for that, but opinions may vary.
What hardware is needed to run 64 "gen pop" desktop sessions that would be able to utilize that much GPU power?
More CPU cores than I have 😁
nice linode ad...very nice..along with the star trek theme..:) Rarely do i ive props for an ad..:)
Hi Craft Computing,
Could you make a video with your sponsor Linode showing how to use GPU instances in the VDI environment? I think that would be very exciting as well.
I would have liked to see what the performance of 64 VMs is like. Can it handle 64 youtube videos? Can it really replace 64 $2k laptops? sub $1k laptops come can come with rtx 3060s, so I quite skeptical. I can imagine it provide $150 level of performance 64 ways, but what can you really do with that?
I really wish I could do something like this at my Work. We have moved away from Phyiscal hardware but I would love to try this on a nice cheap 2U Rackmount server! hum.. Maybe I can try
I find funny that while this card costs like 9k, and can run 64 virtual desktops, for a little it more than half it's price, you could buy 64 1050's still.
Thing is, it reduces the number of required PCIe slots to run those 64 virtual desktops, one of these on a single server can run 64 desktops, while 64 1050s would require 64 PCIe slots. The end cost justifies the price of the card. Not to mention, it's more supposed to replace company provided laptops, which can cost several thousand dollars each. So it's actually a banger of a value.
@@JulianUccetta Completely agree. Granted you better have some badass NVME Raid Storage to use for Profile storage.... and General VM storage as well but I drool at the thought of what I could build now that I understand how this tech works! I blame Jeff for sending me down this cool rabbit hole with his P4 video! Maybe I can talk my boss into letting me do a Proof of Concept!
I find it funny that you even consider doing something so silly.
1050 eats 75W. 64 x 75W = 4.8KW.
That's enough power to power 19 A16, each running a fleet of virtual desktops.
Would you ever consider posting PCB pictures? I haven't found a single one online and quad die cards are very cool to look at.
How is that Cardassian Kanar? I haven't opened mine or my Andorian blue yet.
It is a delicious dessert wine. I've still got my Klingon Bloodline, and a couple Starfleet bottles.
0:36 for a sec I thought he is @JEFF_GEERLINNG.....😂🤣😜🤪
Can you do a cloud gaming video on the A2000 12GB card
Or A4000
Unfortunately, not yet. There's no known way to unlock unsupported Ampere GPUs... yet.
fun question with the a16 4 different GPUs, can each of them split into different slices? say 8 - 2gb chunks, 4 - 4gb chunks, 2 - 8gb, and 1 - 16gb chunk? or do all have to split equally?
The four GPUs show up individually in the OS. You can only use a single GPU profile at a time on each GPU, but that would allow you to divide the GPUs like you propose.
@@CraftComputing i'm interested in running older lower end games like sins of a solar empire, total war rome 2, rimworld, project zomboid, battle brothers. . . . . at most 720p @ 15fps.
Please, please get a Tesla P4 or something similar running in a desktop VM under ESXi. I run a Horizon installation in my lab and am looking for a way to use the P4 without a license server and recurring charge. Thanks!
Would you be interested in borrowing my Quadro RTX 4000 to try some cloud gaming?
Crazy looking bottle man
Hello, have you tried any new Gpus like a100, v100, rtx 8000? If yes i would like to know which have the best performance as m60 and m40 gpus aren't available nearby to me
The most entertaining ads on UA-cam
What interests me with these GPUs are the NVENC capabilities on-board.
"Getting it down's not the problem, it's getting it back up!" - I was so sure that this was a clever segue to an ad for ED medication lol
Yet another S tier sponsor spot
Hahahahah Star Trek intro was soooo cool!
I love those parfait glasses, right when you need just /that/ amount of fancy
I highly reccomend Story Teller, it is a superdense Cabernet Sauvignon, I usually go for hard alcohol, and this is my favorite
I don think ive ever seen anyone actually recommend the StarTrek wines before XD
Great content as always
That intro tells me you’ve worked for an MSP at least once.
Next test, Tesla T4 ?
In my opinion, a Tesla T40 / P40 / M40 is the sweet spot for a home lab; for virtualization. NVIDIA *open-sourced* the vGPU driver recently so it is a matter of time for Proxmox to support it out of the box. Unfortunately the open source driver only supports RTX Touring or newer; the driver for Pascal and Maxwell is still closed source. On another topic… I wonder how a Tesla P40 would run with a Kraken G12 + 240mm / 280mm AIO
So, it's 4x RTX 3040 16GB? RT 3040 16GB (since the 1030 was a GT, not GTX)?
only issue I am running into is powering these cards. they use eps12 connectors, which limits how you effectivly wire them. I thought I could cheat and use a bitcoin mining powersupply setup [hp server psu+ breakout board then breakout board to six pin combining two six pins to make the 8 pin connector]
But can it run rimworld when Cassandra decides to send 60 raids in 4 days
Hi, do you plan on testing something like an RTX A4000 for vgpu/pgpu gaming and vdi benchmark or is this something that does not make sense?
I have a pair of A5000s, and you'll be seeing them shortly for VDI.
thx for the excellent content
What is the best solution remote desktop for windows vm in esxi 6.7 server without gpu ?
Just in case you are much more interested in Tesla P4-s, there is a bunch of them from China for around 125USD (+shipping & VAT) on ebay right now :)
Hello Jef how are you? a question if possible? I created a win 10 VM inside proxmox and running cinebench r23 i realized the cpu is running in stock speed...? do you happen to know how to activate the native turbo boost from the cpu for this vm ? thanks!!! my setup epyc 7532 + x12ssl-i
I was watching and thinking the card has a use case for Minecraft more than Doom :-)
What hypervosor did you use? Proxmox or Esxi? Does ths card need licencing from vmware?
@CraftComputing Hey Jeff - thoughts about choosing between the Tesla P4 and the T1000? Is newer better? Let us know! 👌👍
The P4 will run circles around the P1000. I've tested both.
As long as he does not try to sing like Uhura, he can drink whatever ...
"I just had a kanar with Damar"
Haha thought you had a bong for a second hahahhaha 420noscope
Dude, are you storing wine inside a Kanar bottle? lol
The wine *came* in that Kanar bottle.
LOL I wonder how many streams these cards could decode/encode at the same time, whether it's comparable to dedicated transcoding silicon from the likes of Alveo... cause if the quality, stream count and speed is comparable or better, and the power draw is similar, and it is still capable of driving regular desktop sessions as well when not focusing on the media side of things, it could be a great media/home-server addition once it gets severely price-cut ;) After all, you can have several family members just web-browse/office-work with it, all the while having processing power to go through media streams for the media server duties...
Thought that bottle was a device for. I suming Oregon's finest for a second. was going to comment on colored bong water.
Hey man I am drinking wine too :)
Watching this while in the last stages of setting up some nvidia a100 packed servers for a slurm cluster is kinda funny.
NVIDIA A10 is a way better card for cloud gaming since it's the main driving force of GeForce Now in the moment, having RTX 3080 level of performance, allowing up to 24 VMs with 1gb of VRAM, and it's like 2/3 the price, where I live
These are meant to be accelerators. You should show them off with other cards
Id like to see you use a tesla p100 16gb. Card is an absolute monster running gta5 at 1440p max settings (no advanced settings) at around 140 fps. Cant really say the same for cyberpunk as the driver i use came out before the game its self so i can only manage 30 fps at 1080p max settings no fsr.
Definitely thought that was a bong at first glance
I am starting to believe, that Jeff is a Star Trek Fan. 🤔
Well linode certainly can’t say you didn’t try!
what..? that's not ribena...?
I don't understand why they included RT cored on that card at all
P.S.: This is what I like, I couldn't believe VDI and all it can be done with that technology and its exploitation :)
I want to see him do cloud gaming on intel flex gpu
I'm on the list for samples. #soon
@@CraftComputing R u frigging kidding????, Can't wait :)))
Biggest bottleneck in my gaming server is EPYC CPU that boosts only to 3Ghz
Stick a fan and molded bios
Are you drinking Kanar?
See not all Ampere smells of pickle :D
Yeah, but this one did set me back a few bucks.
Anybody else think he was going to open by punching a bong?
i wonder, how many GPUs this guy has?
A lot
@@CraftComputingeven the miners don't have many GPUs as you have,wait...i know why, nevermind
using cpu video currently rocket lake 11600k has its downs for gaming if i put a gpu in the system ill get like 70 percent of the gpu still using the cpu vid out on the mobo 128 vid gamers in a meet i assume there are rolls to play what do i need to support a 128 game for critics what we get on the gamer end is relative real-estate changes im waiting for the hard card to connect to the super computer neon colors or attitude i say its attitude
That's what she said! 😂
Wait, wait, wait ... you mean that the computer can be used for something BESIDES gaminig? 🤔
It's be cool if you showed off a guacamole deployment.
I did a video on Guacamole about 2 years ago 🙂
@@CraftComputing *surprised pikachu face*
٩(◕‿◕｡)۶ Hurray!
Doom always does better than on other games no matter what card I see reviewed. I suspect this is because of vulcan. If I am right. wide spread vulcan adoption will once again allow decent gamming performance on SINGLE SLOT GRAPHICS CARDS.
1st i think you fill up you pipe dude
sorry dude i am so feet
15th
3rd comment
Please change your channel name to cloud gaming
Cloud gaming is surprisingly less than 10% of my total content ;-)
a guy from the US wearing a British cap. fkn cringe
You realize the flatcap was made popular in the US back in the 20s, right? They're not that uncommon here.