This looks like the same building I went to for an exhibit and even for people who can walk it was difficult. Some of the staircases were really narrow and steep with very little lighting
just take a few minutes to process how the stairs looks. do you think they can put an elevator in there with the stair in case of emergency / fire. charging full price may be to much i can not agree more but thos projector, VR set and other stuff they jave in the disable room cost just as much if not more per person to Run. its not the best but its also not nothing.
@@gmdesert3810 There's always a way to add accessibility, provided you allocate the time and money to it. A VR headset and a tiny side room with a TV and some coloring pages is, frankly, a p|ss poor excuse for an "experience". And for that to be the "experience" they're trying to peddle, it ought to be advertised just how shoddy it is. Charging for that should be considered theft. I've been to better events at my local library - for free!
Not really a scam bc they don't solicit you. You choose to go there on your own. And if you call and ask them they would probably inform you of this before you come. So not a scam. A choice of the consumer.
@@angelyeager210 the point is that the exhibit ought to be accessible to all, not that she should've checked online and mentally prepared to be segregated. Wheelchair users are denied the chance to attend because what would be the point for one room? Your comment seems to be in support of disabled people/wc users not going to this exhibit, which is in fact ablist. At best you're attempting to excuse them putting on an inaccessible event - which is also pretty shitty of you.
Just some extra info, this horrible unaccessible experience was a museum issue. The area I went to see the exhibit in was completely accessible… which is sad because they should meet that goal at every showing area.
@@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary for sure, it’s an individual company fault. I think the company putting this on was different than the one I saw since it was in the us
@@TeylaDex Depression is a form of disability. It's an illness which doesn't allow you to function in a society designed for abled people. In severe cases people move less that wheelchair users
I looked it up cause I wanted to go. They clearly say on their website the ground floor is only wheelchair accessible & what areas/activities are there for the floor, that carers are given free admission, & the toilets aren't wheelchair accessible. They even mention the closest disabled toilet
@@Dreagon-yc3zqThey do for the one she went to. “The Van Gogh exhibition is only wheelchair accessible on the ground floor, which gives access to the Tea Station, Gift Shop and the Immersive Room & toilets (not wheelchair friendly).” - London, she went to.
That’s awful! And so expensive, especially if they take your money and then tell you “oh, by the way, the exhibition is upstairs and we don’t have a lift”…! Whoever chose that venue needs to do some much needed training on how the Equality Act works and what providing accessible spaces for all means…!
@@AydinRobertson wow, your comments speak volumes about your attitude to disabled people…! It is NOT immature to point out the failure of this exhibition to make it accessible for all, it is simply pointing out that they have a legal obligation to do so! To also state it’s upsetting there were no lifts but jumping to it being inequality (in “” too!) is missing the point entirely. Disabled people should have the same access to everything as those who don’t have a disability, something that is written into UK law - making it a nationwide issue, not a ‘local issue’. If you had to fight to have your legal rights provided as much as Zara Beth and many, many thousands of people who use wheelchairs or other mobility aids, you would have understood why it’s so distressing to her, and me. Lastly, yes you’re entitled to have a differing opinion on this issue (freedom of speech is a good thing) but to be rude in the process is unnecessary, especially when you are trying to downplay the fact that legal obligations have been ignored and also incorrectly state that something being around for a while negates its requirement to abide by the law. It doesn’t. Before the Equality Act 2010 we had the Disability Discrimination Act 1996 which also stated that it was required adaptations were made to make premises accessible, even those that were built 100’s of years ago and now listed buildings to protect them from damage or deterioration. That’s just shy of 30 years with those two pieces of legislation, so definitely means that the Van Gogh exhibition was, and still is, required to make it accessible to all.
@@alexbennet4195 disabled doesn't necessarily mean wheelchair user. Two things that he had physically was: a) Ménière's disease - affecting balance with the ears. Basically the liquid helps us balance and it is in the ears. This is considered a disability as it is a balance issue. b) Porphyria - a blood disease causing seizures. Two things he had mentally: a) epilepsy - causing seizures. b) bipolar disorder - mania and depression. This is considered a hidden disability. Art scholars believe that the lithium that Van Gogh took for this was what caused his unique painting style in [for example] starry night. Edit: I did art history so ig I'm a bit or a nerd at this. Sorry.
This is so sad and awful thank you thank you thank you for uncovering what disability in the UK is like. This is so upsetting and people are ignorant about what "access" means here. I work with disabled young people and am disabled myself and these stories need to be told. Your bravery in sharing these stories helps all of us thank you. It isn't good enough!
I thought we had laws here, this leaves me feeling terribly scared as I’ve I am being tested right now to find out what’s causing my mobility problems, joint pain and stiffness which is head to toe and just getting worse and worse. I don’t know what my future is going to look like right now, but I have always been at ease thinking we lived in a country where it shouldn’t be a problem accessibility wise. Is it as bad as this in a lot of places?
@@Natasha___. there are laws, but it depends on the buildings age. i work in a restaurant and we tried to put a disabled toilet in the building but it was too old and the pipes kept overflowing
@@heartz4tswift putting a disabled toilet would not make the pipes overflow. Disabled toilets are simply bigger. They have exactly the same plumbing and toilet as any other. Its not about age.
@Natasha___. It is this bad or worse for us in 99% of places yes. We actually dont have laws. We have the equality act, but we have nothing like America or Brasil's ADA laws.
@@theboujieproletariat i’m not saying it was the disabled toilet that made the pipes overflow/get blocked. i’m saying the building was too old to have another toilet added. and i was saying how that isn’t illegal
I’m sorry you had that kind of Van Gough experience. However not all of them were like that. Mine was all flat ground. Thank you for raising awareness and continuing to show others how to advocate for people like us.
Same here. Mine was in the U.S. and was in an old grocery store. It was super accessible since it had automatic doors and no stairs or uneven ground. I wonder if the laws around having wheelchair accessible things are different in the UK.
Omg WOW. Sounds like a local issue, tbh. I've been to this twice - once in Australia and once in Europe - and it was not only WAY more immersive and awe inspiring, but it also looked much more put-together/professional and was very accessible. They should be ashamed of themselves! I'm so sorry this was your experience.
@@radishcastle I was so confused by this video. I've seen others and it always looked so immersive and well done unlike what is shown here. Makes sense that they have different locations
I went to the states. There were no stairs but i still think it was pretty lackluster. The immersive room was much nicer in the states, you couldn't see the ceiling it was replaced with mirrors and was a much bigger room with twists and turns so you couldn't see some of the other visitors, so it was much more immersive.
I remember going to see this sometime last year! I’m sorry to hear that you weren’t able to experience it as much at first. I really hope that they plan to make it a bit more accessible to others :)
I would say this is more on the choice of venue then the experience itself. This venue is not accessible, the one I did in Jax, Fl didn't have any stairs from what I remember, it was on a single story venue. Boo on the Van Gogh Experience for choosing such an inaccessible venue
Hey I worked in one on the west coast of America and I got our boss fired for threatening to un-employ me due to my disability that I had disclosed before I was hired :) Van Gogh's Exhibition Hub company is an INSANE company and I cannot even begin to express to you the wild insane things I experienced at that workplace. I also threw my back and wrist out on day 2 (despite my disability paper from my doctor saying no more than ten pound lifting!) because I got screamed at to move an easily 70+ pound box full of of glass mugs completely alone by myself above my head. :) And thats JUST the surface. I hope this company goes bankrupt- and im gonna tell you a seceret... they are 😂
I don't really have a question or comment about this other than "wow" and "hope you got their last couple dollars" but I know other people probably will and I want to get the notifications. Please accept this algorithmic boost.
@@catsaregreat6314 Unfortunately i dont have the resources. Just dont know where to start or what lawyer to get. I still suffer from wrist and back pain today even a year later which is wild lol.
What's strange is that Van Gogh was disabled himself. He was diagnosed with epilepsy and suffered from depression. It's wild that an exhibit dedicated to him didn't do better in being accessible.
The irony is that Vangogh would’ve thrown a FIT over the lack of accessibility as he was disabled himself. Granted part of it was mutilation but also he was incredibly ill.
I doubt he would have thrown a fit about something like this when he was struggling to even put food on the table while paying for art supplies. Art exhibitions aren't a living essential...
@@plzleavemealone9660 okay so you're not allowed to complain about anything that isn't a living essential? Do you think disabled people should just get by with the bare minimum every day or are they allowed to enjoy the same things other people get?
@@royalcrumble2384 No. I'm saying Vangogh wouldn't have thrown a fit over something so little. It's good when venues are accessible when they can, and where I'm from there are many government aids for events like this. But as someone who suffers from invisible disabilities that make it impossible for me to be in crowded places without fear of having a panic attack, I understand that not everything can be made right for everyone. I can't go to big events without spending more money and preparing multiple "escape routs" and risking having to miss much of it because I couldn't stay in a crowded place. Hell I can't even ride a train or bus sometimes. Some places have rooms where people can rest for a while nowadays, but most places can afford that. There are so many disabilities out there and not every disability can be supported in these events. Some supports for one group can actually hurt another. That's just how it is. It's not a requirement to, it's a sweet gesture.
@plzleavemealone9660 Basic accessibility is important. I'm so exhausted of seeing the 'I'm disabled and I don't care.' You don't care because this specific thing doesn't affect you. You don't have a mobility based disability. So clearly, you think literally not able to access places and having events intentionally misleading is 'little'. While it's true that the world won't be perfect, that doesn't mean pointed out flaws is bad. And you honestly don't get to classify what is considered 'little' to a disability you don't understand. Just because you have some variation of disability doesn't make you a spokesperson for all disabled people and get to classify how valid their struggles are. Especially when quite frankly, your disability has medication available that can vastly improve your quality of life and is completely different than someone who may struggle with one of the most basic and important functions in life.
@darkraven5424 I don't wanna be rude here but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to put a ramp or something in where those stairs are, without tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds of renovations. The gallery is simply not wheelchair accessible- it shouldn't have been marketed as that but realistically, she could have viewed this same exhibition at a wheelchair accessible venue. The government and galleries don't have unlimited money and can only cater to a limited amount of people. The point in the video is also misleading- the only disability they didn't cater towards were severe mobility disabilities, which make up less than 0.1 percent of the target audience. The gallery shouldn't be expected to do more in this scenario.
Is it though? It’s their business, even if it isn’t a good practice. It isn’t on them that she chose a venue with this issue that explicitly states that.
It is stated that only the ground floor is accessible to those in wheelchairs though. They may have assumed she called or checked the website first though, like most do.
@@Fishin_Foxhi I've checked the website. Restrictions are not mentioned up front or in the "practical info" panel. You have to go through to backscreens ( FAQ or online ticket sales) to get that info. Not just the exhibition but the toilets are inaccessible. The lady seems surprised in the video so may have bought tickets on site? Either way not a great venue especially for an exhibition based on a disabled artists works.
I went to the one in Salford a few years back and it was miles better everything was on one floor and it was all wheelchair accessible and it was a lot more immersive. There was even a room of infinity mirrors filled with sunflowers
AuDHD ("low" support needs is how I present but I think for many of us it's rarely so simple as that) is disabling enough for me not to even want to attend "big" events (and being late-diagnosed I expect not to be meaningfully accommodated anyway), but the fact that a big spectacle event still can't get accessibility logistics right for people with a physical disability is infuriating, particularly given how much money it's making.
I’m grateful that you share this so we didn’t go through similar shit, that’s unfortunate and quite a let down I’m sure, hope you’re feeling better from that ❤ and thank you again for sharing!!!!
That’s utterly unforgivable, I’m so sorry you and others had to go through that/go through that so much, Van would be APPALLED as I have heard that he is a disabled person himself. Absolutely insane. As a person who is not physically disabled, I don’t understand why we make buildings and spaces for humans to come enjoy that AREN’T accessible for everyone. Like, fuck, as a builder too, a ramp(‘s) is/are 800 times easier to build than stairs?!? I would die of shame if I built a building or installation or showcase that couldn’t be accessible for everyone in every situation. Much love to y’all, may you have a lifetime of happiness and peace.
I am so very sorry this was the experience you got. We had a simmilar exhibition in Germany about Monet's life and art. We we're very happy this was all accessible and much more immersive. Art is for everyone and there is no reason to exclude anyone from experiencing art. I hope we can all work to make this world a more accessible one.❤
The one where i was (two years ago, i think) in Germany was completely accessible but sadly expensive and just not worth it :( like you said the only really cool thing was the immersive room
This is so Sad. Hope they will do it better in the future. Thank you so much for putting this online. Everybody should have the same quality experience.
When the Van Gogh experience was in my city it was on the first floor! I cant imagine having to climb to see it and I'm fully mobile it just makes sense to have it on the first floor for me. And no elevators to is just horrible!
So glad for your reviews. Accessibility in this day should be commonplace but it's DECIDEDLY NOT 😢 And allowing a simple pass is shameful Make it make sense. Make it work! ❤
Hi Zara, that sucks so much, I always feel super bad for my family and friends when they have to cancel plans or stay behind with me just because I’m having a bad day, and I’ve learned to accept my needs, but other people haven’t, FND sucks and I hope you are doing okay with it, I would recommend some other galleries, I’ve seen a ton with lifts that look amazing, but I can’t remeber names,
Look carefully at the accessibility details for the one you’re going to. Some have special accommodations or are all on one floor, and all of them explicitly state what there’s are.
You should definitely visit the singaporean one they had, it was all on the same level, with ramps and handles if there were any elevated parts, and when there were special rooms upstairs, there were lifts to take you there. Surprised they don’t have similar features around the world
That's so sad :(. Luckily when I visited the Van Gough experience in Missouri in the U.S. it was all on the same floor and accessible for all people. My sister really struggles with walking up stairs or very far at all and she had a wonderful time.
Ok, not everywhere can reasonably be made accessible but at least give a (heavily) reduced price for disabled visitors that can't access 99% or the exhibit.....
This exhibition was in Italy many years ago. So cool!! Many Italian galleries are very old, but have disabled lifts. Also staff are trained for any situation.
I'm so sorry you had to experience that on the exhibition 😢 I went when it was here in Mexico and it was really accessible for everyone. I even went in my wheelchair.
i do think it depends on the location. admittedly i am not disabled but it seemed like it was pretty accessible. that being said i wouldn’t recommend it to anyone really. myself and everyone ive talked to has agreed that it’s kind of lackluster (and i am a HUGE fan of van gogh, so that’s saying something)
Disabled people in my country basically don’t need to pay tickets for art gallery, exhibitions, museums or music concert if we’re talking about general arts. And a lift is mandatory for anyone who wants to held public events like the one you mentioned
I'm so sorry for you!, when they did the experience here in Alabama, it was completely accessible, no stairs at all, completely flat service that u can get to, I hope your able to find a place, it truly is an amazing experience!
And that is why as an abled bodied disabled person, I understand when they only give a (big) discount for people in a wheelchair. If you can only see one room from, let’s say, 4 rooms, then you should only pay 1/4th of the normal price. That seems fair to me
I am so sorry that happened to you. They should have found a building that was accessible. Where ours was it lucky had access for wheelchair users. It was in the back because it's an old building but you were able to see the experience in your wheelchair if you so pleased. I hope they pick a better building next time.❤
😳😱 Oh y’all need a UK American Disability Act!!! It’s sad enough as it is but everything you’ve told us about being disabled in the UK is pretty damn scary. They couldn’t possibly have expected you to pay 18 pounds for the tv room, right? That wasn’t quite clear. Pls don’t push yourself that hard. Ik how tempting it is-my pressure wounds on my butt can attest to that. Good luck w your next adventure dear❤
@@harrib2896 From what I’ve experienced, advocacy is the key. If you make enough noise and bring enough attention to what the bad actors are up to, often you’re more likely to get what you need. At least the legality is there to lean on if you do need to push someone
@@harrib2896 yeah ada is ignored a lot and you have to raise a stink to get it fixed. even when it is followed its not followed very well i.e. garbage/back door ramps
Yeah idk on this one. The US isn't exactly the best example of good treatment of disabled people either lol. It sucks, even in supposedly disability friendly, progressive cities
The venue that I saw it at was a warehouse that was all ground level (I was with both of my grandmas who also have mobility limitations, and they were able to access it all). However, it is absolutely obscene that they charged the full price when the full exhibit was not accessible.
i went to this experience in NYC and a transphobic security guard wouldn't let my friend use the bathroom. also it was not epileptic friendly at all which was so funny considering van gogh himself was epileptic. they were also really ableist in the way they talked about his mental illness. horrible poorly done overpriced tourist trap 🙃
Im so sorry you has to experience that. I went to one in Atlanta and everything was accessible. There was no second floor and everything was walk through with plenty of space for people who could've been disabled. Hopefully ppl realize that anyone and everyone should have enjoyable access to spaces.
This is especially bad when you realize Van Gogh could be seen as disabled. He had a lot of mental struggles. What makes it worse in my opinion is that the exhibition was inherently inaccessible, they made it this way. It's not like it was in a castle or catacombs. This could just as easily been done in an accessible venue!
yeah exactly! Like, i've been to ancient castles and understood why it wasn't wheelchair accessible. It wouldn't even be possible for a lot of them. But a museum in a modern building? That's absolute bs
@@LauraBidingCitizen as someone who has been quite mentally ill, and is now physically disabled, I generally categorize mental illness and disability separately. Which I’m guessing the other commenter does too. But I totally acknowledge that it depends on the person and situation and how they identify
@@gmar89541 How you / others decide to label yourselves is your right & your decision, but mental health here in the UK comes under the disability equality act of 2010 - ‘A mental health condition is considered a disability if it has a long-term effect on your normal day-to-day activity. This is defined under the Equality Act 2010’. OP is merely stating that Van Gogh had mental health issues, which would, in today’s society, have been seen as a disability, so it’s ironic that a Van Gogh art exhibition isn’t accessible, that can include people with physical disabilities as well as people with mental health issues. I didn’t understand when OP rightly stated Van Gogh had mental health issues, & someone else responded with ‘I thought he had bipolar’? When they’re basically one & the same. Appreciate the explanation, but over here they’d all be seen as a disability, which protects us.
Agreed! Not only that but when I attended a similar experience there wasn’t even any art or coloring sheets. Simply some projected slideshows and that’s it. I was upset that it was advertised as a “immersive” experience.
oh my that's so horrible. i went to the van gogh experience near where i live, arizona, usa. it was amazing. it was all single floor and in a lovely large loop with ample space for my wheelchair. i'm so sorry yours was not as wonderful.
I'm so sorry that venue that housed the Van Gogh Experience for you wasn't accessible:( I went to the experience they had in my area(U.S. so might be more rules assuring accessibility) today and they had it set up in an a building that used to be a grocery store, which meant automatic doors and no stairs or uneven ground. I actually saw a handful of people with mobility aides while there and everyone seemed super good time! Hopefully the people running the experience will try to be more discerning when choosing their venues in the future.
WHAT THE HECK?? THAT’S HORRIBLE!! We had one of these in my city, and from what I remember it was much more accessible than this! The whole exhibit was on one floor and there was a lot of room to move around between the different sections; I think the biggest problems were there wasn’t a decent place to sit down in the first room (the exhibit had two rooms), but the immersive room had a lot of benches to sit on and I think the ramp into the building wasn’t as close to the doors that it could’ve been, but I’m not sure as it’s been a while since I’ve been to that building 😅 I’m so sorry that the exhibit you went to was so inaccessible; that’s absolutely ridiculous that they didn’t have a lift or anything AND that they took your money before telling you! That’s so scummy of them and makes them look like scammers 😠
That’s the thing though. This information is fully available if you bother to look at the venue you’re going to. The one in London states “The Van Gogh exhibition is only wheelchair accessible on the ground floor, which gives access to the Tea Station, Gift Shop and the Immersive Room & toilets (not wheelchair friendly).” Right in the section for accessibility questions.
There‘s actually a really cool VR freeware experience of the night cafe. I‘d invest in a VR headset if you can. There‘s so many incredible experiences and things like VR chat offer literally thousands of immersive player created worlds to explore. It‘s like those immersive museum experiences but even more immersive! Everything looks so incredible and being able to basically walk around a van gogh painting was incredible. Seeing that in 3D is a wild experience for sure. None of these museum experiences come close to it. And they also charge so much more for less.
this sucks!!! i’m an ambulatory mobility aid user (cane & rollator) and even with my smaller aids, i find it difficult to be a part of a lot of things. i’ve had to leave my aids behind for certain things/events and while i can function on my own without them it’s painful. the world needs to be more accessible.
I have been able to go and the place where it was at was fully accessible. I am in a wheelchair and not very ambulatory. But there was an elevator. I am very thankful for this. So it does depend on where the exhibition is. I hope you get to experience it in an accessible place because it was amazing.❤❤
That’s the wish version of the exhibition. They shouldn’t have been allowed to call it that, even for the ambulatory people. The real experience was INCREDIBLE, just a big warehouse filled with moving projections including beautiful noises and informative quotes and painting
Yeah, there a Van Gough experience near where I live that my uncle took me to. It was really expensive per person for what you got. We went in expecting a while to be spent in there. Instead we got three rooms and a projector thing. The projector was cool but not worth $40.
@@Fishin_Fox why are you purposely disagreeing with everyone? It’s honestly really annoying. This might surprise you, but a lot of museums and trusts are actually also about promoting art and public benefit.
@@MilanTobdzic I was literally agreeing with the original comment? These people want profit. If it’s annoying you, then block me or report my comments. I agree some art shows and museums may want to, but not all of them do.
me and my family went to the van gogh experience in birmingham in was amazing! all downstairs, massive rooms and no steps. Very accessible for wheelchair users.
That's awful! When the exhibit was in my city, I went, and they didn't have any stairs anywhere. I'm so sorry you didn't get to see it because it really is so cool
When they were in Hamburg, it was perfectly accessible. Ramp outside, all rooms on one floor, toilets for wheelchair users. I am sorry, you had such a bad experience 😢
I went into this exhibition in Germany, there they made sure that everything was accessible for everyone. To do this, take your money and just keep you in some backroom to do something you could've done at home... Just utterly shameful and a massive scam. I hope you got a refund.
Went to an art museum/gallery in Quebec last summer and paid like 15-20 per person. No paintings. Just one room with 3 TVs of some kaleidoscope. And a video of a woman biting herself with stones in reverse. Total scam but the people in the Museum were watching the videos like it was the holy grail
Charging ANYTHING for that sad "accessibility" room ought to be considered a scam!
This looks like the same building I went to for an exhibit and even for people who can walk it was difficult. Some of the staircases were really narrow and steep with very little lighting
just take a few minutes to process how the stairs looks.
do you think they can put an elevator in there with the stair in case of emergency / fire.
charging full price may be to much i can not agree more but thos projector, VR set and other stuff they jave in the disable room cost just as much if not more per person to Run. its not the best but its also not nothing.
@@gmdesert3810 There's always a way to add accessibility, provided you allocate the time and money to it.
A VR headset and a tiny side room with a TV and some coloring pages is, frankly, a p|ss poor excuse for an "experience". And for that to be the "experience" they're trying to peddle, it ought to be advertised just how shoddy it is. Charging for that should be considered theft. I've been to better events at my local library - for free!
@@gmdesert3810 my middle school was able to set up a better "experience" than this
Charging anything more than $3 is trash.
Not really a scam bc they don't solicit you. You choose to go there on your own. And if you call and ask them they would probably inform you of this before you come. So not a scam. A choice of the consumer.
Taking your money and THEN telling you you can't access most of the exhibition is a scam, they should be ashamed
@@jetpackblues9193 is that what happened? She didn’t say that that was what happened
@@alexbennet4195 They didn't tell her until after she paid it was all upstairs. They knowingly took her money when she was in a wheelchair.
@@PrismaticCrafter how do you know that? She didn’t say that here?
@@alexbennet4195 she implied it
@@alexbennet4195you know damn well that’s what they did. Stop trying to defend them
Selling a full price "accessible" ticket for that is an insulting joke. The event organisers should be ashamed.
You can bring you caretaker for free, soo is it full price or it 2 for the price of 1.
She could have googled the location's accessibility before going
@@angelyeager210 the point is that the exhibit ought to be accessible to all, not that she should've checked online and mentally prepared to be segregated. Wheelchair users are denied the chance to attend because what would be the point for one room? Your comment seems to be in support of disabled people/wc users not going to this exhibit, which is in fact ablist. At best you're attempting to excuse them putting on an inaccessible event - which is also pretty shitty of you.
@@h0td0gwater Exactly.
That’s her fault she’s disabled
as an exhibition designer… ugh, this is so bad. i’m so sorry you had to experience that.
Just some extra info, this horrible unaccessible experience was a museum issue. The area I went to see the exhibit in was completely accessible… which is sad because they should meet that goal at every showing area.
@@t0adstoolll they could have found a far better venue than this surely
@@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary for sure, it’s an individual company fault. I think the company putting this on was different than the one I saw since it was in the us
Not having a well planned disability access to a VAN GOGH exhibition is painfully ironic in itself.
he was a depressed guy with a missing ear, not in a wheelchair.
@@TeylaDexAnd? thats still considered a disability
@@TeylaDex Still disability
@@TeylaDex yeah hes still disabled shitass
@@TeylaDex
Depression is a form of disability. It's an illness which doesn't allow you to function in a society designed for abled people. In severe cases people move less that wheelchair users
Did they have it listed on the website that it’s not easily accessible? If not, then you should really file a complaint. That’s not right!
@@WhitneyEnchanted probably not, cause they gave an alternative, which is horrible
I looked it up cause I wanted to go. They clearly say on their website the ground floor is only wheelchair accessible & what areas/activities are there for the floor, that carers are given free admission, & the toilets aren't wheelchair accessible. They even mention the closest disabled toilet
@@__-yh7pn It's still not good, but that does make it better.
@@Dreagon-yc3zqThey do for the one she went to. “The Van Gogh exhibition is only wheelchair accessible on the ground floor, which gives access to the Tea Station, Gift Shop and the Immersive Room & toilets (not wheelchair friendly).” - London, she went to.
It does say that the only access available is the downstairs part
That’s awful! And so expensive, especially if they take your money and then tell you “oh, by the way, the exhibition is upstairs and we don’t have a lift”…! Whoever chose that venue needs to do some much needed training on how the Equality Act works and what providing accessible spaces for all means…!
Unfortunate that there is no lift
@@AydinRobertsonit is not old , it first opened only a couple years ago.
@@Ali-mv3jc *young
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@@AydinRobertson wow, your comments speak volumes about your attitude to disabled people…! It is NOT immature to point out the failure of this exhibition to make it accessible for all, it is simply pointing out that they have a legal obligation to do so! To also state it’s upsetting there were no lifts but jumping to it being inequality (in “” too!) is missing the point entirely. Disabled people should have the same access to everything as those who don’t have a disability, something that is written into UK law - making it a nationwide issue, not a ‘local issue’. If you had to fight to have your legal rights provided as much as Zara Beth and many, many thousands of people who use wheelchairs or other mobility aids, you would have understood why it’s so distressing to her, and me.
Lastly, yes you’re entitled to have a differing opinion on this issue (freedom of speech is a good thing) but to be rude in the process is unnecessary, especially when you are trying to downplay the fact that legal obligations have been ignored and also incorrectly state that something being around for a while negates its requirement to abide by the law. It doesn’t. Before the Equality Act 2010 we had the Disability Discrimination Act 1996 which also stated that it was required adaptations were made to make premises accessible, even those that were built 100’s of years ago and now listed buildings to protect them from damage or deterioration. That’s just shy of 30 years with those two pieces of legislation, so definitely means that the Van Gogh exhibition was, and still is, required to make it accessible to all.
Funny part about this, van gogh was disabled. So this is shockingly not a van gogh experience. It's just an art installation.
He wasn’t a wheelchair user…?
@@alexbennet4195you don’t have to use a wheelchair to be disabled…
@@alexbennet4195 disabled doesn't necessarily mean wheelchair user. Two things that he had physically was: a) Ménière's disease - affecting balance with the ears. Basically the liquid helps us balance and it is in the ears. This is considered a disability as it is a balance issue. b) Porphyria - a blood disease causing seizures. Two things he had mentally: a) epilepsy - causing seizures. b) bipolar disorder - mania and depression. This is considered a hidden disability. Art scholars believe that the lithium that Van Gogh took for this was what caused his unique painting style in [for example] starry night.
Edit: I did art history so ig I'm a bit or a nerd at this. Sorry.
@@iamtheproblemhehe that’s interesting and all but what does that have to do with the accessibility of the exhibit? He could still use stairs, right?
@@sammiskay27 ofc? So what’s supposed to be ironic here?
This is so sad and awful thank you thank you thank you for uncovering what disability in the UK is like. This is so upsetting and people are ignorant about what "access" means here.
I work with disabled young people and am disabled myself and these stories need to be told. Your bravery in sharing these stories helps all of us thank you. It isn't good enough!
I thought we had laws here, this leaves me feeling terribly scared as I’ve I am being tested right now to find out what’s causing my mobility problems, joint pain and stiffness which is head to toe and just getting worse and worse. I don’t know what my future is going to look like right now, but I have always been at ease thinking we lived in a country where it shouldn’t be a problem accessibility wise.
Is it as bad as this in a lot of places?
@@Natasha___. there are laws, but it depends on the buildings age. i work in a restaurant and we tried to put a disabled toilet in the building but it was too old and the pipes kept overflowing
@@heartz4tswift putting a disabled toilet would not make the pipes overflow. Disabled toilets are simply bigger. They have exactly the same plumbing and toilet as any other. Its not about age.
@Natasha___. It is this bad or worse for us in 99% of places yes. We actually dont have laws. We have the equality act, but we have nothing like America or Brasil's ADA laws.
@@theboujieproletariat i’m not saying it was the disabled toilet that made the pipes overflow/get blocked. i’m saying the building was too old to have another toilet added. and i was saying how that isn’t illegal
I’m sorry you had that kind of Van Gough experience. However not all of them were like that. Mine was all flat ground. Thank you for raising awareness and continuing to show others how to advocate for people like us.
Same here. Mine was in the U.S. and was in an old grocery store. It was super accessible since it had automatic doors and no stairs or uneven ground. I wonder if the laws around having wheelchair accessible things are different in the UK.
Same! My experience was so much fun and there weren’t any stairs
Omg WOW. Sounds like a local issue, tbh. I've been to this twice - once in Australia and once in Europe - and it was not only WAY more immersive and awe inspiring, but it also looked much more put-together/professional and was very accessible. They should be ashamed of themselves! I'm so sorry this was your experience.
@@radishcastle I was so confused by this video. I've seen others and it always looked so immersive and well done unlike what is shown here.
Makes sense that they have different locations
There's a lot of different companies doing roughly the same thing. Possibly you just went to a better company.
Honestly same! I was shocked, my experience with it (Europe, Warsaw) was so much different too! Accessible and more immersive and bigger.
This is definitely local issue. In the art museum in Indiana, US, it was nothing like she described and there were disabled people in the room
I went to the states. There were no stairs but i still think it was pretty lackluster. The immersive room was much nicer in the states, you couldn't see the ceiling it was replaced with mirrors and was a much bigger room with twists and turns so you couldn't see some of the other visitors, so it was much more immersive.
I remember going to see this sometime last year! I’m sorry to hear that you weren’t able to experience it as much at first. I really hope that they plan to make it a bit more accessible to others :)
I would say this is more on the choice of venue then the experience itself. This venue is not accessible, the one I did in Jax, Fl didn't have any stairs from what I remember, it was on a single story venue. Boo on the Van Gogh Experience for choosing such an inaccessible venue
She lives in UK tho
@@Venvaneless The Van Gogh Experience is a traveling exhibit. It's been all over the world
Went to the one in Erfurt, Germany, and it was wheelchair accessible. Strange that they don't make sure every venue they use is.
Jacksonville is over 800 times the land size thst the city of london is it’s not a big surprise that you had a little more room 😂
Hey I worked in one on the west coast of America and I got our boss fired for threatening to un-employ me due to my disability that I had disclosed before I was hired :) Van Gogh's Exhibition Hub company is an INSANE company and I cannot even begin to express to you the wild insane things I experienced at that workplace. I also threw my back and wrist out on day 2 (despite my disability paper from my doctor saying no more than ten pound lifting!) because I got screamed at to move an easily 70+ pound box full of of glass mugs completely alone by myself above my head. :) And thats JUST the surface. I hope this company goes bankrupt- and im gonna tell you a seceret... they are 😂
I don't really have a question or comment about this other than "wow" and "hope you got their last couple dollars"
but I know other people probably will and I want to get the notifications. Please accept this algorithmic boost.
Sounds like they deserve whats coming to them. So sorry you had to go through that
Wow you brought the tea! Should be pinned comment
I hope you have the resources to sue because that sounds like a juicy case. And you’d get more of their money too
@@catsaregreat6314 Unfortunately i dont have the resources. Just dont know where to start or what lawyer to get. I still suffer from wrist and back pain today even a year later which is wild lol.
What's strange is that Van Gogh was disabled himself. He was diagnosed with epilepsy and suffered from depression. It's wild that an exhibit dedicated to him didn't do better in being accessible.
The irony is that Vangogh would’ve thrown a FIT over the lack of accessibility as he was disabled himself. Granted part of it was mutilation but also he was incredibly ill.
I doubt he would have thrown a fit about something like this when he was struggling to even put food on the table while paying for art supplies.
Art exhibitions aren't a living essential...
@@plzleavemealone9660 okay so you're not allowed to complain about anything that isn't a living essential? Do you think disabled people should just get by with the bare minimum every day or are they allowed to enjoy the same things other people get?
@@royalcrumble2384
No. I'm saying Vangogh wouldn't have thrown a fit over something so little.
It's good when venues are accessible when they can, and where I'm from there are many government aids for events like this. But as someone who suffers from invisible disabilities that make it impossible for me to be in crowded places without fear of having a panic attack, I understand that not everything can be made right for everyone.
I can't go to big events without spending more money and preparing multiple "escape routs" and risking having to miss much of it because I couldn't stay in a crowded place. Hell I can't even ride a train or bus sometimes.
Some places have rooms where people can rest for a while nowadays, but most places can afford that. There are so many disabilities out there and not every disability can be supported in these events.
Some supports for one group can actually hurt another.
That's just how it is.
It's not a requirement to, it's a sweet gesture.
@plzleavemealone9660
Basic accessibility is important. I'm so exhausted of seeing the 'I'm disabled and I don't care.'
You don't care because this specific thing doesn't affect you. You don't have a mobility based disability. So clearly, you think literally not able to access places and having events intentionally misleading is 'little'.
While it's true that the world won't be perfect, that doesn't mean pointed out flaws is bad. And you honestly don't get to classify what is considered 'little' to a disability you don't understand.
Just because you have some variation of disability doesn't make you a spokesperson for all disabled people and get to classify how valid their struggles are. Especially when quite frankly, your disability has medication available that can vastly improve your quality of life and is completely different than someone who may struggle with one of the most basic and important functions in life.
@darkraven5424 I don't wanna be rude here but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to put a ramp or something in where those stairs are, without tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds of renovations. The gallery is simply not wheelchair accessible- it shouldn't have been marketed as that but realistically, she could have viewed this same exhibition at a wheelchair accessible venue. The government and galleries don't have unlimited money and can only cater to a limited amount of people.
The point in the video is also misleading- the only disability they didn't cater towards were severe mobility disabilities, which make up less than 0.1 percent of the target audience. The gallery shouldn't be expected to do more in this scenario.
this is insane, they need to be held accountable
it's inexcusable that theyd charge you for this
Is it though? It’s their business, even if it isn’t a good practice.
It isn’t on them that she chose a venue with this issue that explicitly states that.
That is so bad of them. Great job for highlighting this
You've been more than fair in your review. Any restriction shoukd be advertised up front and they should be embarrassed.
It is stated that only the ground floor is accessible to those in wheelchairs though. They may have assumed she called or checked the website first though, like most do.
@@Fishin_Foxhi I've checked the website. Restrictions are not mentioned up front or in the "practical info" panel. You have to go through to backscreens ( FAQ or online ticket sales) to get that info. Not just the exhibition but the toilets are inaccessible. The lady seems surprised in the video so may have bought tickets on site? Either way not a great venue especially for an exhibition based on a disabled artists works.
I went to the one in Salford a few years back and it was miles better everything was on one floor and it was all wheelchair accessible and it was a lot more immersive. There was even a room of infinity mirrors filled with sunflowers
"Goff" ugh my soul
Low IQ is her disability
AuDHD ("low" support needs is how I present but I think for many of us it's rarely so simple as that) is disabling enough for me not to even want to attend "big" events (and being late-diagnosed I expect not to be meaningfully accommodated anyway), but the fact that a big spectacle event still can't get accessibility logistics right for people with a physical disability is infuriating, particularly given how much money it's making.
The one in Salford Quays didn’t have stairs, all of it was on one floor. It’s a shame the London one is like that!
I’m grateful that you share this so we didn’t go through similar shit, that’s unfortunate and quite a let down I’m sure, hope you’re feeling better from that ❤ and thank you again for sharing!!!!
I wonder what Van Gogh would say about it?! 😊🌈
‘wat de fuck’
That’s utterly unforgivable, I’m so sorry you and others had to go through that/go through that so much, Van would be APPALLED as I have heard that he is a disabled person himself. Absolutely insane.
As a person who is not physically disabled, I don’t understand why we make buildings and spaces for humans to come enjoy that AREN’T accessible for everyone. Like, fuck, as a builder too, a ramp(‘s) is/are 800 times easier to build than stairs?!?
I would die of shame if I built a building or installation or showcase that couldn’t be accessible for everyone in every situation. Much love to y’all, may you have a lifetime of happiness and peace.
His name isn't Van 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jessthecactus oh OOPSIE times a thousand 😆😂😂😂 thank youuuu bb~
I am so very sorry this was the experience you got. We had a simmilar exhibition in Germany about Monet's life and art. We we're very happy this was all accessible and much more immersive. Art is for everyone and there is no reason to exclude anyone from experiencing art. I hope we can all work to make this world a more accessible one.❤
Seeing you both sit in front of the TV, in that room, breaks my heart.
The one where i was (two years ago, i think) in Germany was completely accessible but sadly expensive and just not worth it :( like you said the only really cool thing was the immersive room
This is so Sad. Hope they will do it better in the future. Thank you so much for putting this online. Everybody should have the same quality experience.
When the Van Gogh experience was in my city it was on the first floor! I cant imagine having to climb to see it and I'm fully mobile it just makes sense to have it on the first floor for me. And no elevators to is just horrible!
So glad for your reviews. Accessibility in this day should be commonplace but it's DECIDEDLY NOT 😢
And allowing a simple pass is shameful
Make it make sense. Make it work!
❤
Are you going to pay the trillions upfront needed yo renovate everything?
That is absolutely ridiculous honestly.
Hi Zara, that sucks so much, I always feel super bad for my family and friends when they have to cancel plans or stay behind with me just because I’m having a bad day, and I’ve learned to accept my needs, but other people haven’t, FND sucks and I hope you are doing okay with it, I would recommend some other galleries, I’ve seen a ton with lifts that look amazing, but I can’t remeber names,
Look carefully at the accessibility details for the one you’re going to.
Some have special accommodations or are all on one floor, and all of them explicitly state what there’s are.
You should definitely visit the singaporean one they had, it was all on the same level, with ramps and handles if there were any elevated parts, and when there were special rooms upstairs, there were lifts to take you there. Surprised they don’t have similar features around the world
That's so sad :(. Luckily when I visited the Van Gough experience in Missouri in the U.S. it was all on the same floor and accessible for all people. My sister really struggles with walking up stairs or very far at all and she had a wonderful time.
This is so interesting, thank you for sharing. People with disabilities should be able to experience fun things like this too I agree xx
Me my dad and my grandma went to this! We were shocked because it wasn’t that good but it was so fun to spend time together and see all the art 🖼️ ❤
Ok, not everywhere can reasonably be made accessible but at least give a (heavily) reduced price for disabled visitors that can't access 99% or the exhibit.....
Most places can be, this is an example of a place that could be
Exactly. She shouldn’t have had to pay full price
This exhibition was in Italy many years ago. So cool!! Many Italian galleries are very old, but have disabled lifts. Also staff are trained for any situation.
Thats absolutely crazy! When it was in Montreal, it was all on 1 floor with wide doorways! You could access everything with a chair
I'm so sorry you had to experience that on the exhibition 😢 I went when it was here in Mexico and it was really accessible for everyone. I even went in my wheelchair.
i do think it depends on the location. admittedly i am not disabled but it seemed like it was pretty accessible. that being said i wouldn’t recommend it to anyone really. myself and everyone ive talked to has agreed that it’s kind of lackluster (and i am a HUGE fan of van gogh, so that’s saying something)
Thank you for sharing this.
Disabled people in my country basically don’t need to pay tickets for art gallery, exhibitions, museums or music concert if we’re talking about general arts. And a lift is mandatory for anyone who wants to held public events like the one you mentioned
I feel you, that's always so frustrating
i went a few years ago and where they held it was accessible. unfortunately not everywhere they pop up is.
They brought that experience near me and luckily ours was fully accessible! It’s sad that the one near you was not
Sounds like the Van Gogh Experience isn't a real hoot for able-bodied peeps either :/
I'm so sorry for you!, when they did the experience here in Alabama, it was completely accessible, no stairs at all, completely flat service that u can get to, I hope your able to find a place, it truly is an amazing experience!
And that is why as an abled bodied disabled person, I understand when they only give a (big) discount for people in a wheelchair.
If you can only see one room from, let’s say, 4 rooms, then you should only pay 1/4th of the normal price. That seems fair to me
I’m glad you shared this!! That’s so disappointing it wasn’t wheelchair accessible
OMG IM FIRST AND YOUR SO AWESOME YOU ARE ALSO SO CREATIVE LIVE YOUR PERSONALITY ❤
I am so sorry that happened to you. They should have found a building that was accessible. Where ours was it lucky had access for wheelchair users. It was in the back because it's an old building but you were able to see the experience in your wheelchair if you so pleased. I hope they pick a better building next time.❤
😳😱 Oh y’all need a UK American Disability Act!!! It’s sad enough as it is but everything you’ve told us about being disabled in the UK is pretty damn scary. They couldn’t possibly have expected you to pay 18 pounds for the tv room, right? That wasn’t quite clear. Pls don’t push yourself that hard. Ik how tempting it is-my pressure wounds on my butt can attest to that. Good luck w your next adventure dear❤
We have the equality act, but it isn't really enforced (but I doubt the ADA is always enforced)
@@harrib2896 From what I’ve experienced, advocacy is the key. If you make enough noise and bring enough attention to what the bad actors are up to, often you’re more likely to get what you need. At least the legality is there to lean on if you do need to push someone
@@harrib2896 yeah ada is ignored a lot and you have to raise a stink to get it fixed. even when it is followed its not followed very well i.e. garbage/back door ramps
Yeah idk on this one. The US isn't exactly the best example of good treatment of disabled people either lol. It sucks, even in supposedly disability friendly, progressive cities
@@gmar89541 It’s true. I’ve been living in Portland, Oregon, for awhile now I think I’m a bit spoiled
Sorry to hear that. I saw it in Philadelphia and there were no stairs at all. It’s the venue’s issue, not the exhibit itself.
that's so messed up of them to do to wheelchair users :(
Hope they make something more accessible soon. Hope you still had a good time though❤
Imagine doing no research before going to a new place
The venue that I saw it at was a warehouse that was all ground level (I was with both of my grandmas who also have mobility limitations, and they were able to access it all). However, it is absolutely obscene that they charged the full price when the full exhibit was not accessible.
i went to this experience in NYC and a transphobic security guard wouldn't let my friend use the bathroom. also it was not epileptic friendly at all which was so funny considering van gogh himself was epileptic. they were also really ableist in the way they talked about his mental illness. horrible poorly done overpriced tourist trap 🙃
Im so sorry you has to experience that. I went to one in Atlanta and everything was accessible. There was no second floor and everything was walk through with plenty of space for people who could've been disabled. Hopefully ppl realize that anyone and everyone should have enjoyable access to spaces.
This is especially bad when you realize Van Gogh could be seen as disabled. He had a lot of mental struggles.
What makes it worse in my opinion is that the exhibition was inherently inaccessible, they made it this way. It's not like it was in a castle or catacombs. This could just as easily been done in an accessible venue!
yeah exactly! Like, i've been to ancient castles and understood why it wasn't wheelchair accessible. It wouldn't even be possible for a lot of them. But a museum in a modern building? That's absolute bs
I thought he had something like bipolar? But I get what you’re saying
@@micellaragua bipolar is a mental health issue ?
@@LauraBidingCitizen as someone who has been quite mentally ill, and is now physically disabled, I generally categorize mental illness and disability separately. Which I’m guessing the other commenter does too. But I totally acknowledge that it depends on the person and situation and how they identify
@@gmar89541 How you / others decide to label yourselves is your right & your decision, but mental health here in the UK comes under the disability equality act of 2010 -
‘A mental health condition is considered a disability if it has a long-term effect on your normal day-to-day activity. This is defined under the Equality Act 2010’.
OP is merely stating that Van Gogh had mental health issues, which would, in today’s society, have been seen as a disability, so it’s ironic that a Van Gogh art exhibition isn’t accessible, that can include people with physical disabilities as well as people with mental health issues.
I didn’t understand when OP rightly stated Van Gogh had mental health issues, & someone else responded with ‘I thought he had bipolar’? When they’re basically one & the same. Appreciate the explanation, but over here they’d all be seen as a disability, which protects us.
I’m really sorry you had this happen. I had so much fun with my family and it’s complete bs this is what they give to disabled people
Not everything can be made accessible. That's just an unfortunate truth. If they charged you before you knew that's a problem.
She would’ve known if she had called ahead or checked the website.
Agreed! Not only that but when I attended a similar experience there wasn’t even any art or coloring sheets. Simply some projected slideshows and that’s it. I was upset that it was advertised as a “immersive” experience.
oh my that's so horrible. i went to the van gogh experience near where i live, arizona, usa. it was amazing. it was all single floor and in a lovely large loop with ample space for my wheelchair. i'm so sorry yours was not as wonderful.
That’s insane! I can’t believe this was even seen as an option
I'm so sorry that venue that housed the Van Gogh Experience for you wasn't accessible:( I went to the experience they had in my area(U.S. so might be more rules assuring accessibility) today and they had it set up in an a building that used to be a grocery store, which meant automatic doors and no stairs or uneven ground. I actually saw a handful of people with mobility aides while there and everyone seemed super good time! Hopefully the people running the experience will try to be more discerning when choosing their venues in the future.
I'm so sorry that this was your experience. I went when it was touring in the United States, and the one I went to was all on the first floor.
offering a subpar product whilst charging for a different product sounds illegal.
It would be illegal, except for the fact they have it clear to see if you call or check the website.
That room is crazyyyy 😭
WHAT THE HECK?? THAT’S HORRIBLE!! We had one of these in my city, and from what I remember it was much more accessible than this! The whole exhibit was on one floor and there was a lot of room to move around between the different sections; I think the biggest problems were there wasn’t a decent place to sit down in the first room (the exhibit had two rooms), but the immersive room had a lot of benches to sit on and I think the ramp into the building wasn’t as close to the doors that it could’ve been, but I’m not sure as it’s been a while since I’ve been to that building 😅
I’m so sorry that the exhibit you went to was so inaccessible; that’s absolutely ridiculous that they didn’t have a lift or anything AND that they took your money before telling you! That’s so scummy of them and makes them look like scammers 😠
That’s the thing though.
This information is fully available if you bother to look at the venue you’re going to. The one in London states “The Van Gogh exhibition is only wheelchair accessible on the ground floor, which gives access to the Tea Station, Gift Shop and the Immersive Room & toilets (not wheelchair friendly).” Right in the section for accessibility questions.
There‘s actually a really cool VR freeware experience of the night cafe. I‘d invest in a VR headset if you can. There‘s so many incredible experiences and things like VR chat offer literally thousands of immersive player created worlds to explore. It‘s like those immersive museum experiences but even more immersive! Everything looks so incredible and being able to basically walk around a van gogh painting was incredible. Seeing that in 3D is a wild experience for sure. None of these museum experiences come close to it. And they also charge so much more for less.
Went to this in Seattle and the whole thing was accessible to my knowledge
I did go myself and the second we Walked in it was stairs and your video was my immediate thought.
this sucks!!! i’m an ambulatory mobility aid user (cane & rollator) and even with my smaller aids, i find it difficult to be a part of a lot of things. i’ve had to leave my aids behind for certain things/events and while i can function on my own without them it’s painful. the world needs to be more accessible.
I have been able to go and the place where it was at was fully accessible. I am in a wheelchair and not very ambulatory. But there was an elevator. I am very thankful for this. So it does depend on where the exhibition is. I hope you get to experience it in an accessible place because it was amazing.❤❤
You got the TRUE experience of being Van Gogh, a person who was persecuted and denied access to parts of society due to his own disability.
I have been to the van gogh experience and it is amazing! hope u had a good time!
That’s the wish version of the exhibition. They shouldn’t have been allowed to call it that, even for the ambulatory people. The real experience was INCREDIBLE, just a big warehouse filled with moving projections including beautiful noises and informative quotes and painting
That's absolutely horrible!! The one I went to in Dublin was all ground level and completely accessable as far as I can remember
This feels really offensive towards van gogh.. i think he would be highly offended if he saw this...
I went to one in DC, and thankfully it was all one story and had alot of things. Its sad that they didnt have much for disabled people where you were
I remember going to the immersive experience with my grandma. My favorite part is when dawn chorus played and the bass shook the room
Yeah, there a Van Gough experience near where I live that my uncle took me to. It was really expensive per person for what you got. We went in expecting a while to be spent in there. Instead we got three rooms and a projector thing. The projector was cool but not worth $40.
That accessibility room is just plain insulting
It’s not an accessibility room, it’s the immersive experience room for everyone.
@@Fishin_Fox the documentary video in the back room is what I was referring to
If that was an immersive experience then looking at a fish tank should be considered as scuba diving 😂
Seems more like these people want to profit off his work more than share it.
Yeah, that’s kind of the point of these pop ups.
@@Fishin_Fox why are you purposely disagreeing with everyone? It’s honestly really annoying. This might surprise you, but a lot of museums and trusts are actually also about promoting art and public benefit.
@@MilanTobdzic I was literally agreeing with the original comment? These people want profit.
If it’s annoying you, then block me or report my comments. I agree some art shows and museums may want to, but not all of them do.
me and my family went to the van gogh experience in birmingham in was amazing! all downstairs, massive rooms and no steps. Very accessible for wheelchair users.
That's awful! When the exhibit was in my city, I went, and they didn't have any stairs anywhere. I'm so sorry you didn't get to see it because it really is so cool
Yoooo that's disgusting. Everything should always be accessible
When they were in Hamburg, it was perfectly accessible. Ramp outside, all rooms on one floor, toilets for wheelchair users. I am sorry, you had such a bad experience 😢
When they came to my small city in New York it was huge, expansive, and definitely 100% accessible. Can't believe London dropped the ball this hard.
man this sucks ☹️
i had to go there for a field trip once, i didn’t know about this
I went into this exhibition in Germany, there they made sure that everything was accessible for everyone.
To do this, take your money and just keep you in some backroom to do something you could've done at home...
Just utterly shameful and a massive scam.
I hope you got a refund.
Next time my nephew comes round, it's a bluey immersive experience with colouring sheets and bluey on.
Went to an art museum/gallery in Quebec last summer and paid like 15-20 per person. No paintings. Just one room with 3 TVs of some kaleidoscope. And a video of a woman biting herself with stones in reverse. Total scam but the people in the Museum were watching the videos like it was the holy grail
“a few rooms with art”. That’s what an art exhibition is…
Depends on where you go. I took my mom, who is in a wheel chair, and everything was on 1 floor.