The Dave Ramsey Show DISASTER
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Explore the comedic take on 'The Dave Ramsey Show DISASTER' where satire meets reality. This video delves into the controversial reaction chain involving The Dave Ramsey Show's critique of a TikToker's honest portrayal of the 9-to-5 grind and commuting woes. Discover the humor in the lack of empathy displayed and the defense of traditional work schedules, all while highlighting the challenges faced by recent graduates entering the workforce.
Witness the breakdown of Ken's misguided advice and the show's attempt to navigate modern work dilemmas with outdated perspectives. Get ready for a laugh-out-loud analysis that not only critiques the original show's approach but also sheds light on the realities of adulting in today's world.
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Josh: outside of the US people get up to four weeks paid annual leave a year. Thats the law.
Fun fact. When you install a browser extension, that extension is now able to see every bit of data (html, cookies, session data, urls, url encoding, page content, etc) in every browser tab, every page you visit across every website.
I'd like to know if Ken did that segment for free because he's a true company man.
I wish you would at least throw in an occasional personal accountability and agency onto the worker. She can choose to leave the major metro and work in a smaller city without a commute and possibly work remote while doing so. There's this constant bitter child tone to your videos where you assume individuals have no agency. It comes off very communist teenager. Major metros are for people that LOVE the hustle. If you don't love the hustle , move somewhere that matches your rhythm.
you just threw a 10+ minute youtube cope tantrum over this. what is the real "DISASTER" (in all caps...) here...
Imagine your job is to just talk, and you decide to criticize people with harder jobs. The irony.
Dont say that, he might shid and fard
Well said
Your job is to talk and push policies that benefit the rich
I’m willing to bet his hands are soft.
FACTS
Gen Z is not upset that they have to work hard. They're mad that their dollars BUY LESS than older generations. They work as hard AND EARN LESS. That's the problem.
And it's only getting worse.
This, if you worked and you were solidly in the middle class, most people wouldn't complain. That obviously isn't the case anymore. You work hard to be paid pennies and if you use the normal "9 to 5" method, good luck buying a house 😂
Also, in many American companies, 9 to 5 isn't even real... Try 50, 60, 70, 80 hours a week... You can't work such schedules for long, it's extremely exhausting. And you can't say "no", or they'll fire you.
Their skillsets arent as valuable anymore. In the 50's swinging a hammer paid good money because not everyone could or was willing to do it. In the 00's being good with computers paid good money for the same reasons. But we're past all that now and yet some people are still clinging to the professions their parents mastered and are shocked that they have been relegated to automation or obscurity.
@@ticenits1926
Annndddd no new jobs were created to replace those jobs. Now what are those people supposed to do smart guy?
Love how folks downplay how valuable time is. Especially folks who like burning the candle at both ends.
Pretty good quote ngl
Exactly, you can always go make more money but you can never get time back once it's gone
I get the impression that none of the talking heads on this show know what real work looks like.
@@amicaaranearumNot. One.
@@amicaaranearumthey don't. They said that their first "9-5" was there, at the yt channel. That is not a standard 9-5. With a boss that penalizes you for being 5 min late or trying to make you stay until 7 for tasks he gave you 15 min before the end of the shift.
In my opinion, working both 9-5 and now making my onw time ( remote), they have no clue. They argue like aristocracy used to do, in the past, about how peasants eat and live 😂
This Ken guy has all the red flags of an abusive narcissist.
Absolutely
How?
Ramsey is worse but Ken is second. Rachael is a nepo-baby. Jade is the only one thats half decent since they fired Anthony.
@@andrew8168they fired Anthony?
I don’t think Ken is a narcissist. He’s ridiculously soft and more like an adult teacher’s pet.
It should be no surprise. It takes a certain kind of person to primp and preen and get in front of a camera to tell people how they should live their lives.
“She’s weak” how weak? As weak as sitting around doing podcast for a living?
Yeah, he'd be the first to break down if he had to actually work a real job after this cushy one...
Omg she mad she only has 4 hr free time. I work 12-14 hr 7 days a week hour one way. I get 2 hr free time ok sometimes 3 cause like f it I want to watch UA-cam or play game more time with my cats. But also on my free time there cleaning cooking laundry. I don't have kids lol.
@@jborrego2406congrats for you accepting this as normal and ok?
@jborrego2406 yeah because everyone wants a miserable life like you, right?
@@jborrego2406 You do realize that that's not OK, right? No one should have to be working more than 40/wk in order to afford a roof over their heads, food in their bellies, and maybe the occasional night out. If you want to work more to get more than the essentials, have at it, but don't buy into the idea that how it is now is how it should be. We can do so much better for so many more citizens than we're doing now.
"This is just how it is" is what every ignorant lemming says about their suffering.
This is just how it is. Let them eat cake and drive Teslas
It's the ultimate indication that they do not think for themselves.
Like most bootlicking Americans, he thinks descriptive and prescriptive statements are one and the same. It’s not just that this is “how it is,” but these types think this is how it *ought* to be. Americans really take a perverse pride in eating sh*t sandwiches.
As I mentioned in another comment, "how it is" isn't how things have been for people for the majority of history.
I mean, yeah, having a small family farm was hard work. So was being a tradesperson of some kind. There are a lot of ways we are better off now. But the other side of the coin is that we now spend long periods of time relatively uselessly - as you might in a long commute, we often live some distance away from our work (hence the commute), we much more often have sedentary jobs that make purposeful exercise essential (which we don't have time for, thanks to the time sinks like commuting or just plain time spent sitting in a specific chair because that's what the boss wants), and we tend to have a lot of disconnect between our work and a tangible result.
"How it is" isn't some time-honored, well-tested wisdom of ages. It's a novelty in human history that still needs a lot of work before we can call it a good idea. And that people want to shoot down remote work essentialy because it doesn't fit this very new model is just ridiculous.
it is what it is
Ken's Job is to talk shit 8 hours a day, what a joke.
😂such an easy job tho. Be useless and talk for 8 hours . Can u imagine? Getting paid to poop on others 😂. Horrible
Please…..You think think he work 8 hours a day.
haha, right *checks Ramsey enterprises website for spokes model opportunities*.
He talks shit on average 2 hours a day. He does something else the other 6.
"Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and buy a 4 bedroom detached house for $19k like I did after Vietnam bucko"
This guy's a boomer in a millennials body.
Looks around 40 to me, which would make him Gen X (i.e. we don't claim him)... but I get your point
Yeah I don't know any millenials with his mentality. We're far more in touch than that. He has to be gen X. 😂 if he's millenial, we do not claim this pos.
@@dillon7748no he looks 50 and he's def gen x
That’s why he was hired on the show. He has the best boomer mindset
@@Dug252- Ken is friends with Dave Ramsey. He didn't even have to interview for his job. He was given the job freely and skipped over everyone else.
God forbid someone calls out openly our toxic work culture. She should do that to a friend in private. This is how people like this guy stay in power. The only way change will happen is by speaking out.
Nailed it!
Can't stand the wanker...
I'm just glad people are finally talking about these assumptions we have about working etc. The labor market doesn't have to be as shitty as it is.
Historically speaking doesn't work. Jimmy Hoffa didn't help create the most successful union culture the world has ever seen with just words - he used brute force and pay offs. Something to think about.
100%
Ken is the worst of the Ramsey people, I have yet to see a clip of him giving good advice grounded in reality...
I would have to agree 😆 usually he co-signs Dave or jus sounds cringe
The number of Americans with any grounding in reality is exactly zero.
Agreed, he's the weakest link for sure.
The girl crying online is hardly a good look. She has two options either work or not work.
Who has a 9 to 5 job? Even on paper, they're 8 to 5, with reality more like 7:45 to 6:30. Start adding in drive times, meal prep, meal consumption, spending time with your family, spending time with your friends, that 30 minutes of exercise the doctor is harping on you about, the 15 - 30 minutes of reading and meditation that prolongs brain health, raising kids, cleaning the house, running errands, hobbies, on-call from work...
If he has a working spouse, he knows damn well those four hours barely exist and definitely don't cut it.
You have time to spend with family and friends 😆 I haven't had that sense 2018
Ken probably dumps most of the domestic labor on his wife.
Just said the same thing, realistically for the average American, it's around 7:30 am to around 6:30-7PM. 9 to 5 job where 😂
it's almost like being an adult consumes most of your time. Let me guess your hunter gatherer forefathers had it easy picking nuts and berries and taking naps all day in a cabin.
@@ticenits1926
Hey, guess what? Survival shows exist and the funny thing is, they mostly only spend around 4-5 hours doing actual work after they've set everything up. Funny how there's already evidence for this :)
Isn't he a millionaire who is out of touch? Most young people work awful jobs for little money. My first job I commuted an hour and a half and only making 34k it was awful. Long commutes kill any motivation.
Yeah I did that for that too once only lasted 8 months. Commute is a real killer for sure.
I work with some people overseas and some of them legit commute 3h both ways and have kids.... Like wtf....
Most people*
And that's been true for all time.
34k for a first job is pretty nice. My first 4 jobs, I wasn't even making half of that, lol. However, I wasn't commuting 3 hours (if the 1.5 is o/w) a day, either, so...eh. lol.
@@notorioustori well it was like my first proper job I guess. My first ever job was cutting fruit in a restaurant for 10$ an hour
I would never work for someone like Ken
He is the literal worst. So damn smug and condescending. I hope it is a "personality" he employs for his DR job.
@@adamp6320 Nah, I think thats him for real
Agreed, the guy lives in a bubble.
Ken doesn't want to work for Ken
That Ken dude always gets me triggered...What a douche
I just feel like he has some dark secrets and someday they're going to come out because he's kind of smarmy and kiss ass like no one like that is ever 100% kosher.
So you are all on the crying girls side?
I’m nearing 40…been in the corporate world nearly two decades and can say that it’s only getting worse. Year by year, month by month, day by day it’s getting more and more toxic but the one redeeming thing for me is that I’ve been remote now going on 5 years now and will NEVER go back to the office. Ever. Working on the office, at least for the line of work I do, was absolutely USELESS. There was ZERO value add to working in office for me other than wasting time and money.
Remote office work was the best, especially if the company is lenient about schedules. I could start at 6 to 8 am, take a hour lunch, and end early/later on whatever days. It also made the meetings very intentional and to-the-point. Could just ignore most "water cooler" chats in Slack. The benefits go on and on
I wish I had an office job.
pay was higher, companies were less brazen with how badly they treated employees and there was some job security. not worth it anymore
Only white collar college graduate jobs get to think that working from home is reality.
I'm glad GenZ is pushing back on the exploitation that us older GenX folks accepted without thinking. I want things to be better for the next generation. And his mansplaining and condescension is so annoying. Who still listens to this show? I don't even agree with the financial advice.
Exactly. Ramsey was saying in his show that this the perfect time to buy a house. !!😅😅
@@Johnny-Utah-91 Why am I not surprised? 🙄
We didn't accept this exploitation. We pushed back...HARD. And you know what we got for it? A worse caste system than before....GenZ's are the ones that figured out the "American Dream" was just that...a freaking dream for the few that were lucky enough to be born into it. The rest of us have worked crappy jobs since...sometimes 2 or 3 just to make the freaking rent. We've seen that hard work isn't rewarded. Every single time GenZ has "finally made it"--prices go up to keep us down. So no, we didn't accept it, we're trying to survive it.
The 8 hour work day is horribly outdated
It is more about control at this point.
Yes, being an adult is hard lol
I think most white collar jobs only work 6 hours a day. The other 2 you just chat and do other things on your computer or phone. Lets switch it to a 9 - 3 already! There have been studies that after 4 hours of working productivity starts to drop.
I can live with hard, just not spend most waking hours at some job...@@flsupraguy
yes I agree let’s all stay home and do nothing
"Don't question the way things are. One day, you too will have your chance to ruin someone else's life. By then you will wish you live at work". This is what they want to turn you into the T10000, emotionless AF!
The people in these comments are so jaded that they think just because this has been "reality" for the last 50-100 years, that's the way it "must be." No, we can and SHOULD demand better. The current work system was developed for FACTORY WORKERS, of much the vast majority of the workforce is NOT. Our productivity is constantly improving despite work-life balance and life satisfaction diminishing. The money we are making in service work has lost its value! No amount of hard work and toughing it out is going to make you a billionaire. The cost of life is unsustainably high compared to wages and the level of work that is expected from us based on an OUTDATED model. We literally are selling our lives to ultrawealthy people who are underpaying us, robbing us of our livelihood AND we can barely find jobs out of college.
It's bullshit* plain and simple
This is what people are ignoring. 9-5 was made mostly for factory workers and restaurants. Not for other jobs.
Did you get a PHD in Art?
Have you ever had a thought that has contributed to something? Maybe improved things for the people around you? Of course not.
Actually you're just wrong, we don't have as many factory jobs but there are many jobs that still require a lot of manual physical all day labor. Electricians, plumbers, Builders of all kind. grocery store workers who go into a hot sweltering truck and have to unload 5,000 pieces to get groceries on the shelf. Remember during the pandemic they were deemed essential, while other people got to sit on their ass and do nothing. Without those type of workers, the country will fall apart within two months. I really do wish everybody would quit their job for 2 months and become a UA-cam blogger like this fool and see how quick the infrastructure falls apart. I can see the Meltdown in the streets now, when somebody can't get a latte from Starbucks at 8:00 in the morning or they go to pump gas and it's turned off because there's no truck drivers or gas station attendants Etc... y'all live in some kind of alternate Fantasy Land that's not real life. Not every 9 to 5 is office work, in fact most is not. I would love to watch most of these people on the internet who Proclaim they don't want to work, watch them actually try to feed themselves... hunt, fish, make their own clothing, it would be the most hilarious thing ever. For the record I don't want to do all that, so I am grateful that so many people still work hard in this country. they should be celebrated not lead down this Fool's Gold path where everybody can just do what they want 90% of the day. If you are lucky enough to do that, you should show gratitude, not make these crazy videos and celebrate a woman who needs a wake up call. Truth is yes the rest of her life is most likely going to be a 9 to 5:00 job and it is what it is.
Heck I would love all the Amazon workers just quit for 2 months and watch these internet bloggers lose their mind when they can't get next day shipping anymore. it would be the most hilarious thing ever. And that's just something very minuscule in the scheme of life.
Gotta love being told to 'suck it up' by people who get paid to do very productive things like host a crummy talk show.
I get the impression that none of the talking heads on this show know what real work looks like.
Yup. Would love to see these talking heads work rewiring the electrical system just for a single floor or attach a new roof during the summer months.
Talking Buttheads
As a Millennial, I have been told **so** many times not to share thoughts on my personal blog or social media accounts. And I used to love listening to Dave Ramsey's can-do attitude about hard work and personal responsibility... until I got diagnosed with a very serious mental disorder and repeatedly found myself in Ken's "weak" category through no fault of my own. All at once I realized how much bullshit Dave and his minions really are pushing on a regular basis for no other reason than "I'm rich and successful, so 'my way' must be the only way!"
Screw that noise. The only thing Gen Z is doing "wrong" these days is **talking** about how much the Boomer version of "normality" really kinda sucks for everyone except those who **enjoy** unthinking and unfeeling management styles. No thanks. The more real empathy we can share in the workplace and the more we normalize "abnormal," the better off we and our children will all be. Anyone who frees themselves from the 9-to-5 grind is a champion in my book, and I will **never** consider those who dislike it to be "weak."
Yeah, I may lose out on employment opportunities if I live my life this way. But personal experience has taught me that I probably wouldn't have wanted to work for those kinds of people anyway.
For privacy reasons, I do agree that it’s best not to “share your soul” on social media. But these people are _wildly_ out of touch. I get the impression that none of these talk-show hosts knows what real work looks like.
Now in my early fifties, and I've come to realize that yes, Dave and his bootlickers shovel a LOT of bullshit.
The only purpose of a job, is so you can pay the bills and live YOUR life. You weren't put on this Earth so that work could BECOME your life. If a job isn't fulfilling that purpose, then that job is a pointless waste of your time and energy.
You only get one life, with very limited time allotted. And, as a wise man once said, no one has ever lay on their death bed and said, "if only I'd worked more."
stay strong dude... sometimes life throws a curveball but maybe you can make some adjustments and use this "disorder" to your advantage somehow.
the vast majority of people are not getting into real estate like Dave Ramsay did. The old adage of "it takes money to make money" is how they got where they are today despite their protestations against it.
The problem is when these people actually were working you actually earned some money, I mean trades earn the same amount starting out 2-3 years ago as over twenty years ago. They have gone up lately but its only keeping up with other manufacturing jobs.
This next generation are not here for the lie we've been told all our lives! Work hard girl and create your own schedule and/or find many companies that are a LOT better educated about the link between mental health and productivity at work than this guy 🙄🙄
I sympathize. She went to school to "get ahead". Minimum 4 years later, and everything simply got harder. 4 years is a very long time. She truly should be "ahead" right now, but she isn't. Not even close.
The fact that she can't afford to live in the city for her job and takes public transportation is absurd. What's the point in the degree?
Once upon a time, education was something you could obtain to **escape** enslavement (of many kinds, and more especially to ignorant ways of thinking). Nowadays, education is one of the fastest ways **into** enslavement (of equally as many kinds, the least imaginative of which is the mountains of financial debt). The only thing my degree currently does for me is hang from the wall and remind me how much I hate my degree. No one warned me ahead of time that this was even a possibility; I should have been "smarter" with my one chance to get things right, I suppose! So here I am, up to my eyeballs in student loan debt, **not** employed in a way that takes advantage of my education, feeling very very alone.
"You can do anything you want in life! Except you'll probably end up hating the vast majority of it! And we'll consider you weak if you complain about it or try to fix it in any **meaningful** way!"
Oh, really! What magical wonders! O_o
What makes things worse is that managers and business owners like Ken **say** they want their employees to "think outside the box," but heaven forbid if they starting thinking so far outside the box that they become successful **without** the 9-to-5. Consequently, mainstream schools don't actually teach students in a way that helps them escape the status quo. And so on and on the Wheel doth turn, crushing all in its wake.
@@birdjerichoI know the pain, bro. It's an unfortunate reality. But you've done the hard part, which is admitting and identifying there is a problem. A lot of people just go "That's the way it is"... but you're beyond that phase. And that's the beauty of your specific reality. So I want to try to give you some hope:
Think of all the people you know who are in your situation. That's a lot of us. Now think of how many of them are actually working outside of the box to escape. None of them, right? So your competition is very minimal. There is an opportunity here. You have to do some research and thinking to figure out the path, but when you find it, you will be among very few people on it. And the laws of supply and demand dictate that your value will rise due to this. That's what I did, and continue to do, and I'm rapidly rising compared to my peers. Good luck.
The degree was a lie and she doesn't want a roommate because then she could afford to live in the city.
Her problems are her own.
@@blackjackjester
Most people don't like having room mates for obvious reasons. How dare someone want to live on their own!!!!! A job should be able to pay for all of your basic necessities, if it doesn't then that's not a job.
@@blackjackjesteryou aren't smart, are you? Have you ever had a room mate? I have. I would never want to live with a random stranger if I can help it, because people are awful (you just confirmed it yourself by being you). I have trouble trusting family members, how am I expected to trust strangers? Right. I didn't - and it helped me not get screwed over.
It’s simple . Even if you wake up at 6-7AM, commute, work 9-5, then commute again , and get back after 6, that’s already 12 hours, plus 8 hours of sleep = 20 hours. That gives you about 4 hours give or take .. hell yeah I’m tired .. especially if I have to do this 5 days a week . It’s not about being weak. It’s the mental/physical/emotional stress that comes along with it, alongside any health issues. Hopefully that girl gets better and finds away out of the system. Cause I soo feel her on that.. what’s worse is when you don’t get off right at 5 and have to stay longer.. yeeeaa no.. good video josh wish you the best 💯
She chose all those things of her own free will. Now she's complaining because she has to put in effort.
Worthless comment
@@user-ff8rs7gk6r You’re pathetic…
Why don’t you shut up and get to work troll?
Put in 12+ hour days for years, making someone else rich, then have nothing to show for it and see how it feels?
If you still think this life is acceptable, you’re a part of the problem.
@@user-ff8rs7gk6r Most people do not "choose" those things in the normal extent if its between doing that and being homeless. You really underestimate living costs these days. Shes complaining about the juice not being worth the squeeze. You shouldn't HAVE to put in constant non stop effort for years to have basic existence in the richest country in the world.
@@MrFrankEast I didn't underestimate anything. I'm simply holding her accountable to the same standard I would be. She has very fixable issues. Her choosing instead to whine online shows exactly who she is.
People is upset because their dollars buy less than older generations. While working HARDER. Now people need to have a degree, go beyond and beyond every second, give 120% with a smile in the face, know how to use computers, know 2 languages and all that earning minimum wage
Yet these out of touch, old farts still get on our cases to do all of that. Or they crow “Get into the trades!”. The trades market is saturated. If you work for someone else you get overworked and underpaid, and it’s expensive to set up your own shop (a friend of mine was a welder, and he was miserable).
The thing that always pissed me off about 9 to 5s was that if I was 5 minutes late or needed to go home 10 minutes early, it was "When you are going to make up that time?" or just "No." which I get... but then when the shop closes half an hour late because of something that has nothing to do with me, it's just "OK see you tomorrow."
the silly thing is he tries to be sympathetic in one on one calls but when he's near the other hosts, he becomes insufferable.
Even the women are missing the point ... it's not that you are not free between 9 to 5 ... the issue is that you are not really blocked for that interval ... She's basically blocked from 7:30 to 6:15.
The easy solution is remote work ...
Remote work is being phased out.
Someone being honest about their problems without blaming the white man was refreshing for once
I got a hour thirty commute to work and I work 9-6, 3 months of the year I can work until 1-2am. That dude never lived a life most people live
The irony is the workaholics shoot each other in the foot while trying to help. Robert Ford figured out that busy workers can't be customers. I wish someone could have asked this panel why the woman making the video wasn't a good authority on what her needs are. They always preach personal responsibility until you say something they don't like.
That’s how my last corporate job was. They would rush to the office at 5 am to brag about who got there the earliest. Then they would work through lunch. Then they would stay until 7 pm to compete for who could leave the latest.
_These people were MISERABLE_
Robert? I thought that was Henry Ford? (I live in Michigan, Henry Ford is celebrated for giving us weekends, it'd be funny if it was some other guy named Ford haha)
@@anonymouse9833 yeah, I'm not great with names.
@@jbb8261 I wonder why they compete over hours, but not productivity, or even who's doing the most outside of work. At my job, it's who looks the busiest. Lastly, computers can do so much work, but the places I've worked don't like automation. Idk why, but it seems like they're misery farms.
But to your point, I like riding a bike. You ever feel like grabbing one, pull them to a window, and showing them the world they're missing? 'look, there's a breeze you haven't felt in years!'
@@thebigb1286 none of the work we did really mattered and the company was spending more than it made despite multiple warnings. Went bankrupt during covid
So there’s that. That’s why they compete about things that don’t matter lol
Dave Ramsey, his company, and his vocal minions have zero self-awareness, zero empathy, and feed on others misery, guilt, and shame. From top to bottom they are despicable. Thank you Joshua for repeatedly calling out their toxic BS.
My first 9 to 5 job post college was 10 minutes away from where I lived. It was a blessing that I knew I'd never have ever again... I didn't spend money on gas, commuting, nor on lunch since I could drive home on my hour lunch to get some food and have enough time to get back to work.
Sadly.. few people have that luxury and I valued those 3 years I had the job within 10 minutes from where I lived.
Pre-pandemic I did everything in my power to live a walking distance to work. This was not a blessing it was a choice for me, either in the job I took or the home I rented/purchased. Now I am far far away but only need to go in 1 or 2 times a week.
It really ticks me off that it's always the people that produce the least value earning the most and telling everyone else to "just work harder".
Ken needs a reality check
He'll eventually get one when Dave fires him.
Working for yourself is way more stressful and takes more time than a 9-5
@@Scam-ish ur just wrong
@@LoLo25A umm ok ?
@@Scam-ish saying umm ok like ur previous statement didn't happen 😳
Buying less than 10 items in a grocery store cost about $70. People work too damn hard for far to little.
The black chick who's supposed to be the hero for DEI is the only one with logic.
The "black chick". The last time I checked, she has a name, learn it and use it.
The "sista" comment she made was so cringe though.
Logic is unAmerican.
"God doesn't like his name to be used in vain Ken."
(Exodus 20:7 and Deuteronomy 5:11)
This tik tok girl has a great point. Jobs keep consolidating in major cities where new hires are required onsite, yet the new hires aren't paid enough to live anywhere close to the office. So they're faced with either 1.) Living in their car close to the office 2.) Commuting 2 hours each way from a place where they can afford to live. 3.) having to work a second job to be able to eat but always losing that second job because your underpaying first job wants you to work day and night. Ironic that they say you can't work from home yet it's cool when they want you to work nights and weekends.
We don't exist to be poor so the rich can get richer.
Yes y'all do lmao.
Open a history book.
You exist with no purpose, lmao.
I know why THEY think we exist, but that's not what I think. Maybe that's why they want my kind depopulated. And why I want to depopulate them.
*shouldn’t
I work 7am to 7pm. I'm out the door by 5:50am. And home no earlier then 8pm. And that's only because that schedule favors traffic on most days. The only reason that I'm still there is that that schedule affords me 3 and 4 day weekends, EVERY WEEK. I drive 64+ miles a day round trip. A cost of no less than $10 in gas PER "work" DAY. I can't rent because my ENTIRE check would go towards RENT, if I did. Things are changing at work, trending towards 5 days a week, coming into work 78 more days a year, FOR THE SAME PAY. Sorry bro, I ain't working 160 hours a month for $160 net after taxes and expenses. I can't eat on that, I can't even wear clothes on that. But the number of bullets I can afford on that, choose your reality. Even if I max 401K, at 5% by me and 5% by the company, after 10 years, I can retire for ONE year. After 20 years, I can retire for TWO YEARS. That's a far cry from the reality my dad lived.
True, although I have to disagree a bit on the 401k. The investing/compound growth is what gets you there, not just the $ you put in. If you put away 5+5% for 30-40 years and invest it you end up with quite a bit.
@woodrmp1 *assuming consistent economic growth like we saw from the 60's to today
401k grows exponentially in a growing economy, but so does inflation. If the stock market drops often enough, or if it just doesn't exceed inflation consistently for two generations, it doesn't work.
@@woodrmp1Ewww, enough to retire for 3 years. I'm over 50, I aint got 40 more years of work / life in me. Never mind the $1M homes with 10% property tax (YEARLY). I did 401K once, I got LESS out of it than I put INTO it. Line does NOT always go UP.
First months of my 9/5 job I was so tired that I just fell asleep in front of my TV at home until shower then dinner. Couldn't even have time for my gf. I am sick of that 50s scam that made people think human being are programmed to be like this. We are a socialized species and we need our time
9-5 is a luxury I've only been able to enjoy with my new job for the last 3 years. Previously, I had to work 8-5, because lunch was never included.
I can't listen to Dave Ramsey show...or Ken Coleman. They all tip toe around Dave..nobody ever disagrees with Dave. And Dave is such a know-all...and kinda mean for a "christian' - he could easily give advice in a nice way...but nope...ridicule
He’s a false Christian. The Bible warns about people who cherry pick and don’t fully obey the Bible. Dave doesn’t fully obey. He also is a hypocrite and the Bible warns against hypocrisy and hypocrites.
I saw Dave Ramsey on a UA-cam short talking about the commercial property his company owns....makes you think
Probably office properties, short it!
These vids calling out corporate bs and boomer thinking are always so cathartic, thanks Josh :) Hope you and your fam are doing well in the traveling lifestyle.
This is a reminder, your commute is unpaid work.
and it comes with a pricetag that increases with distance between home and workplace as a bonus!
Rachel (Dave’s daughter in the middle) was born into that Ramsey monarchy and now she’s some “money expert”. The princess never had to struggle.
Prime example of working half as hard and getting twice as much.
The number of Americans who have had to struggle is exactly zero. Anyone in that country was born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
To be fair at least Dave is making all his kids work to earn their inheritance and its not a given. He is so wealthy that none of them would ever have to work again.
Is his daughter? Omg didn’t know 😮
Isn’t that why we work hard though. So our children don’t know the struggles we go through. I’m happy for her and the family who’s been blessed by Dave’s success.
Working full time sucks. We are forced to earn money in this life somehow, so we can provide food and shelter. I do it too and it just sucks so much. Like Megadeth said: If there’s a new way, I’ll be the first in line.
😶🌫️😏
You shouldn't complain when you come to a world of filth. You should just have your turn at whatever pieces of garbage you get and be happy with the overlords. That's what they want you to do in this world. A world that THEY did not create but only destroy for the benefit of making you reliant on them. The slaves eventually become the overseers and forgot they were once slaves. Often, they double down on the foolishness as well. It's a sick place.
megadeth qoutes - def wasn't expecting that this morning!
Man, offering up the perfect topical Megadeth quote just made my day! \m/
Find something you like. Do you like helping people? Work at a school or hospital. Do you like problem solving? Learn coding or engineering or be an analyst. Do you like fashion? Find a boring job ... but at a fashion company. What helps me is to try to be awesome at what I do and up my game. It gives me focus and purpose when feeling monotonous
Ken lucked out with one of the easiest jobs and highest pays and criticizes others fighting from the bottom who are getting paid significantly less with costs higher than they’ve ever been. Old dude who thinks his isolated life experience is applicable to everyone.
I for one am glad to receive such wisdom from a talented and worldly individual
These people also pretend like you will spend no time apart from work to learn things. When you get your first job out of college, you will struggle initially and a lot of learning will be involved. No one accounted for that. It’s like all of them just come out of college and are perfectly capable of finishing their work in 8 hours.
It’s definitely wild. I work twelve hour rotating shifts 6 days a week. and I have no time or energy for anything. With the driving time I have maybe an hour after I wake up, and an hour before bed to myself. And on my one day off I either sleep for the entire day to catch up on my sleep debt, or I work overtime to try and make more money. But even 9-5 can be crushingly difficult to have time for anything else, between travel times and overtime.
72 hrs a week?? Dear lawd, that's messed up.
@@dincerekin yeah, the big draw of the job(that I knew was a lie instantly let's be real) was "Oh, well at the end of each rotation you get a week straight off!!!" which never has happened in the two years I worked there. And before that too, according to the old timers.
@@fancyelk2373 I hope you are well compensated at least
Ken realizes he goes through this shit and doesn't want to change the future for his kids, kinda wild.
That was pure Cringe! Watching those 3 idiots tell us how it is made my brain hurt very much! I wouldn't watch that show or work for any of them, that was pure torture!
Ken is the kind of man where when the woman tells him to stop, he keeps going until he sexually assaults her... then calls her weak.
Id invite everyone on that show to come work a 72 hour shift in the oil patch and live at the job.
I’m 32, no wife or kids, I drive to work, and work from home most days. Even WFH gets tiring. Going to sleep and waking up in your office is not a good feeeling after 3 years
I think you give this Dave Ramsey & his cronies more attention than they deserve. Who exactly are they to give business and/or career advice? I can totally relate with the girl: 9-5 with a 2hr commute is literal hell. I lived like that for the first 2 years of my career and legitimately started having suicidal thoughts at some point. Then I got one day remote work and even that felt like I was alive again.
It's less about Ramsey and the goons, themselves, and more about how they are among the clearest examples of a whole culture.
Amen!
I've gotten super lucky. My degrees in Math and Physics have gotten me some great, unconventional roles. No commute, self-scheduled, doing stuff I love.
Just the prospect of having to go into a standard 9-to-5 (but actually more like 7-to-7) makes me think about suicide. I don't think that being alive is even worth it at that point.
Welcome to the life of men. You two can have the privilege of working until you're 80 with an almost non-existent chance to truly retire.
As Ken is snoozing in front of the football game, his kids are entertaining themselves and his wife is probably doing the cooking and cleaning and all the other time-consuming tasks he doesn’t have to worry about. Out of touch.
I had student jobs but it wasn’t the same as having a full time job.
It was so hard because nobody prepared me for what happens after I graduate. I felt like that girl in a tiktok.
I also had nobody in that time to even help me with what is going on after college, some things I needed to know regarding healthcare, how anything it working and I’ve been quite independent at the time.
Not to dismiss her feelings and what not, but he does have a point that it's best to vent in private as opposed to going the Tik Tok or Instagram route. When you break it all down, life is not some "gift" when factoring in that you've been awoken from a peaceful state of nothingness and thrown into a cesspool of obligations, time constraints, health issues, financial entanglement, student loans, bills, etc. It's hitting her in the face now.
9 to 5 was for factory workers. Think outside of the box they are placing you in.
Ken Didn't use to be like this man..
He sided with the workers and promoted work-life balence and called people out. Watching him on this show, Wtf happened.
Exactly what I needed to reinforce why I’ve never watched a Dave Ramsey video. Whatever possibly good advice he might be giving is cloaked in ageist misogyny. Hard pass.
I can't wait till Dave and Ken have a falling-out and Dave fires him. I'll be looking forward to that video.
It has to happen. Dave is an absolute slave master.
I dunno, just seems like sexism to be like "oh you're sweet" as a form of disagreement with your cohost rather than actually articulate an argument
It is sexism, but that's the part of Ken that isn't totally out of touch with reality. Everything else like people having a life, not living to work is not something he can understand.
Ken definitely is a PoS, but how is saying "you're sweet" sexist? The sentence of Ken is condescending or dismissive at worst
@@sickle7291 He wouldn't say it to a man. Sexism isn't bad though.
@@sickle7291 agreed. I absolutely can see him saying it to a dude too
@@sickle7291Its a more subtle form of sexism that borders on microaggression. Definitely not as overt as what most people think of as sexism, but the subtle qualities of minimizing someone's opinion for being "sweet" especially after calling the perspective "weak" from the OP tells me they see the experiencing of feelings and empathy (feminine traits) as bad and something to be ridiculed. I was further convinced that he was self aware enough about this when he pivoted his perspective to be more inclusive later on and attempt to salvage his image by trying to play the father figure to the OP and the cohosts (which could be kinda sexist/misogynistic as well depending on how you want to slice things).
They want everybody to be in pain. The Same as the company I used to work for.
Working 9-5 is a scam!
It always amazes me how much more useless Ken proves himself to be outside of being deliberately infuriating to anyone half-decent as a person.
When was it a crime to want more of your day at your disposal? People simply want money so they can do the things they actually care about.
I can sympathize with what that tiktok girl is saying. There's many things I want to do that I simply do not have the energy for at the end of the day.
Also I doubt Rachel Cruz would be so chipper if suddenly her daddies wealth weren't a safety net beneath her, nor if she wasn't working such a cosey gig that I'm sure her daddy had absolutely nothing to do with getting her.
Gotta love that good ol', sweet ol' nepotism!
On paper I work an 8-hour day. But with the mandatory 1-hour lunch (which I don't even take), it's a 10-hour day. Then factor in the 35-45 minutes of commute (each way), and my work day is now 10.5 hours.
But I only get paid for 8 hours.
What is personal time? You owe your life to shareholder gains!
What shareholder gains? If common stocks gave a 7% or even just 5% dividend payment, I could see, but with most stocks paying from 1-3% where's the money going? Likely to greedy and incompetent C-suites execs that the likes of Patrick Bet David suck off.
@@GSAZYNSKIA lot of stocks pay out low dividends or even no dividends at all in order to reinvest the profits into growth, with the hope of increasing the value of all current shares. That's where the money is going.
The way people went after that girl 🙄 Like, it was a lot she was doing in that video. I wouldn’t have filmed myself breaking down like that. But also, this is a broken and corrupt system. People only see the VERY surface layer of that corruption. And that’s only if they’re willing enough to open their mind to it… the poison runs much, much deeper. I don’t blame these kids for being so done so quickly man it’s fucked up and it needs to end.
Ugh there is no such thing as a 9 to 5 job.
I never complained about my 40 hour (+10 hours of commute) work week that I had after university. After I switched to remote work, I suddenly had energy again and stopped feeling burned out.
Why the hell do we keep calling it 9 to 5? This shit is 8 to 5 with a hour lunch which you can't enjoy becuase you are still at work!!
Ken is literally putting words in her mouth, being condescending, literally MOCKING HER, and dismissing her real issues by being extremely stuck in his ways. What a tool.
The “sista” was…. Both the question and answer were unnecessary.
Lets say her commute to work is an hour (which is on par for the average American btw). So she has to leave the house by 7:30 AM to give her some time for traffic and if she leaves at say 5:30 PM (and that's being generous tbh lol!) she probably won't be home until 6:30 PM at the earliest. So that means that she's giving up 11 hours of her day just for work. To make sure that she gets enough sleep she needs to be in bed by 11 pm, she's going to need to wake up at least a 6 AM to be fully ready for work. That leaves her with around 4ish hours to do things after work. Yea, that's not free time and you'll be tired after work. Even working from home, I usually just woke up and worked on work days then went to sleep soon after work. There isn't any free time and working 8 hours a day doesn't really make sense and it was shown that 6 hour work days or working 4 days out of the week instead of 5 made workers far, far more productive.
I feel for Gen Z getting into the workforce. Even Gen X doesn't get it, let alone boomers. When Gen X was making their entry-level salary, McDonalds combos were $6. Now they are $15. And they're not making much more entry-level. And everything else is that much more relatively expensive or worse, like rent and housing. Gen X and boomers didn't get into the workforce when fast food could be a significant amount of their salary.
Fast food is not a necessity. With a little planning and effort, you can make home made meals for a lot cheaper and healthier. We need to go back to the thinking that eating out is a treat and not an entitlement.
Jade ALWAYS suggests that moms should for-go raising the children and go out and get a job....so...it seems she has changed her views.
Love the fact that the older generations are making fun of the younger generations just because they're upset about difficult life is nowadays.
Being gone from home for 11 hours is a LONG time. I agree she needs to find a job where that doesn't happen, but her feelings on her current situation are valid. And not to mention she does not get paid for her commute time. So, let's say she makes $15/hr and commute for 2.5 hours (assuming she has a 30 minute unpaid break). When you factor in the commute time, she's making $11.42/hour. Her hourly pay decreases by almost $3.50.
Plus, with the cost of everything nowadays, we want our time back. That's the only thing we have to look forward to nowadays. We can't afford vacations, we can barely afford to save for retirement until we're in our 30's or 40's, and some of us maybe in our 50's.
I'm so tired of people bashing on the newer generations because they want more out of life, like the older generations had. It's so sickening. No wonder there's a divide between the younger and older.
I'm a GenX'er approaching 60, and I'm not making fun of anyone. I've watched things go south with my own two eyes over the past 40 years, and the GenZ kids have my sympathy for the world they were born into, and the challenges they have that we didn't back then when I was getting started. It's not 1985 anymore, that's for damned sure.
@@stevepreskitt283 I'm glad you're aware of how different it is. My inlaws and my mother still act as though their kids should be able to afford what they did at the same age. My dad is aware of the changes and tries to help us out with advice and give us amazing Christmas presents of things he knows we've been needing but either can't afford or are lower on our list to buy. He even helps us out with house projects because he knows we bought a fixer upper due to the costs of housing and intend to do most of the work ourselves. My inlaws say we should just hire someone to do the work without understanding we can't afford that.
5:18 It's funny hearing someone on the Dave Ramsey show say this; I had this EXACT reaction to "the real world" during my first six months out of college and it temporarily turned me into an alcoholic
When Ken entered the workforce young ladies like the one in the clip didn't even have to work if they were married lmao.
He's so dismissive, using words and phrases like "sweetheart" and "you're so sweet." Ugh!
One of the biggest insults a lot of jobs do to people is have their main office in a downtown area where it's just a status thing, where there is no parking. When you work in places like Dallas and Fort Worth where I am from people get a job think everything is going to be ok but off the top 750 to 1000 grand is spent on parking and it is sometimes first come first served. So, to get a close parking spot one has to get to the area extra early just so they can work without having to worry about a meter and only if they have an area where the meter doesn't say 2-hour max parking which they started instituting in certain areas.
Public transportation is not a great option either a but pass will still cost 100 dollars and that doesn't get you close to your job usually. On time so you still have to build around weird hours to get from one point to another.
I had to drive to a train station take a but to Dallas which is still 45 minutes the same as a car ride get to the train stop catch a bus from there and still have to walk 4 blocks to get to work.
All for a job when it came down to it could be done from home no problems at all and productivity actually went up, at least my company realized this and was close to their lease end and keep a work at home model.
Even with people who abuse work from home and it's not hard to tell who they are since we have task list that connects to us on slack in each department. We still perform better with no more need for overtime.
A month metro pass in DC was $400 a month plus parking like 4-5 years ago. They've jacked up prices every year since. You're spot on about the city locations being a status thing. Cheaper to drive to work for $50 a week outside the city.
The 9 to 5 was designed for factory workers. The more you work the more product is output. It doesn't work for most jobs that have fluctuating workloads because more hours does not necessarily mean more work. I can't remember the estimate for the amount of time at work that is wasted because people have nothing to do so they stretch out their workload to meet 8 hours
They think that because someone doesn’t have kids that they don’t get tired or they shouldn’t be tired as if being tired is for a certain demographic of people. I get it, it’s stressful to be looking after yourself and looking after little human beings. However, this whole “Who has it worse” game is getting old. It shouldn’t matter if a person has children or not, people get tired. That is human nature. That’s just how it is. To say to someone, “You don’t know what tired is” is not only dismissive but also inconsiderate of the fact that there are multiple reasons that a person gets tired, and it’s not always due to having children. Many of us have parents to take care of because we love them, they’re getting up in age, they have medical conditions, and we’re the only ones our parents trust. Take it from someone who knows. That can make a person tired, and then add on the 9-5 situation that the lady described. Then while you’re commuting back and forth to work, you’re stressed out about whether or not your mom or dad is okay.
Thank you!!!! People are always quick to judge other people's circumstances. Saying things like "If I were if your shoes, I would do XYZ" You assuming the person is telling you the whole truth and nothing but the truth without any missing details.
EUGH!!!! Get these out of touch boomers away from me. I'm glad someone like Josh calls them out
Joshua love your content, as a young person I value what points you often bring up about what is normal and what isn't for any employer to require from you. With that said I would love to see from you a video about good practices so to say or employers who you think treat their employees as they should. I am not trying to dictate what you should and shouldn't make content about, it's just that seeing mostly examples of what is bad leaves me with the question What is right then? What should I be looking for if possible? Anyway love your content as said before, and I am looking forward to your future videos, much love.
TLDR: For a short period in history from 1945 - 1980s, people did not work a strict 9-5. They worked when work needed to be done and relaxed when it didn't need to be done. Then the 80s came and we threw it all away trying to climb over one another.
MY Grandfather lived through the Great Depression, World War Two, and was a businessman in many ventures in the 1960s -80s. Folks, I remember spending the night over there as a kid, and Grandpa taking me to work with him. NOBODY worked a strict 9-5 in that era. People would get up in the morning, relax, read the newspaper over breakfast, etc over a two hour period. Then Gramps would head to his primary business. I remember him walking in, greeting his employees, then he'd leave. We'd walk down the block to check in on some other businesses he was involved in. He would go into the office talk to a few people. Then we'd head back to the first business, and my grandfather would put on an apron and start working. I asked him why he was doing ground level work if he was the boss. He explained to me, "Well people need to do things. The bank is only open from 9-4, so one of the workers needed to leave for awhile. I'm just doing that person's job until he gets back." It wasn't just the bank, either. His people would go home at any hour to let the plumber come in and work or whatever the f.
This post is already too long, so I'll just leave it at my grandfather's employees came and went as they needed to during the day, and so did my grandfather. As long as what needed to get done actually got done, everyone was happy. People took care of personal business on company time, took an actual hour to have lunch AT HOME (people went home for lunch), and still went home before the sun went down AND THEY DIDN'T TAKE WORK HOME WITH THEM. Oh, and people did not commute more than 10 miles to work because living in the city was actually desirable ... in Detroit.
Now don't misunderstand everything I just wrote - sometimes people worked overtime - A LOT of overtime. But that was only when a project demanded it. If there was no work that needed to be done, people went home early or took days off. Work worked itself out back then.
I’m actually surprised they allowed someone to challenge Ken. He’s still a pedantic a-hole who’s not willing to understand other people’s POV, but I’m glad someone is allowed to push back now
She’s upset because she has no time AND no money…. I hate out of touch people so much
So you can't like anyone from the USA then?
I just want to point out that this is not a young girl, this is a young woman. Girls are children. This is an adult woman. The way she is speaking is a little provacative in that it elicits emotion. However, she has a good point, because she's partially complaining about how long her commute is, and she is absolutely right.
Imagine geting a job, working 8 hours, but you get on the train at 7:3 to get there at 9. She is spending 2.5 hours in transit with 8 hours at work. The think is, is it not sustainable. Half of the workers around me come from outside the city.
Why does Ken mock the fact that this girl "needs to see boys"? Isn't he conservative or something? When I was working for an American company (never again, if I can help it!), I was working 10-12 hour shifts, sometimes 6 days a week, and I also had a lengthy commute. I wanted to meet a man to start a family and had no idea how I'd do that with that sort of job...
This is where women learned that they fucked up by focusing on their career FIRST rather than looking for a partner. Queue the cats when they hit their mid 30's.
@@Delimon007Give us a break. Are we supposed to starve while looking for a man? Truth is you need a career to support yourself and most households can't survive on one income, so we gotta work.
And I can see you coming already with the ''but you chose that with feminism bla bla bla'', yes we did, because it's still a whole lot better than what was possible for us before.
In any case, if women are dying alone with cats etc, means that men are too. And given the big headlines about men loneliness, seems they are the one complaining the most about it...
So develop some empathy and common sense or just worry about yourself.
@Delimon007 This is where men learn they fucked up by focusing on their own pleasure FIRST rather than looking for a partner. Queue the coping and seething and dying alone to the whirring of your computer fan.
@@Delimon007 Red-piller men: "Women fucked up by focusing on careers FIRST!"
Also red-piller men: "Damn those mercantile women, wanting men to pay all their bills!"
I understand that you must lead a privileged existence where all your expenses are paid by your parents or something, but some of us have bills to take care of. It's called "taking responsibility for your own life, and not being a burden on others". That's why we take on jobs that we don't like. I'm not sure you'd understand, though.
@@Delimon007 And who would pay my bills while I was looking for a partner? You?
My 9-5 job in Los Angeles was book ended by a 2 hr commute both ways. I wasn’t unique.
I gave the company director an ultimatum to go remote or I quit.
Have been remote for a year and a half now and will never go back to the office - maybe once a year for a week if I can be bothered.
I 100% get this girl. My life has become infinitely better being able to log off and having the exact moment onwards to myself with no commute.
and they want you to have kids in this environment.