Excellent episode gents. A 21 year old is generally a steep buy for me but you’ve given me much to chew on when searching out a bottle for a special occasion. Your efforts and opinions on your channel are always appreciated.
thanks for tuning in as ever Jan! appreciate it's not an every day purchase but glad we've at least started highlighting a few options. sláinte my friend!
Another splendid episode gents! Great insight and extreme honesty regarding the drams is what makes this podcast and its members so special. Touching briefly on prices: lately, it seems that msrp levels have jumped quite a bit while auction market prices are steadily declining. In many instances, for a little bit extra money above msrp (or less in sometimes), at auction one could obtain older releases of certain expressions. Like Ian's Highland Park 21 example, these older drams may be slightly higher in quality compared to their modern counterparts. At what point are the currently rising msrp no longer sustainable and it just becomes more worthwhile to seek out things at auction? The amazing 1980s HP12 Ian mentioned in the "battle of the 12s" episode is cheaper than a couple of the bottles featured here, for example ;)
Another great episode gents. I haven’t tried many of those whisky’s but have a bottle of the 22 release Glendronach 21 that I’m currently sitting on waiting for the right occasion to open. It’s definitely getting more expensive on the auctions.
Glendronach 21 is so good, it was the dram I shared with my groomsmen on the morning of my wedding. Have another couple on the shelf, it would be nice to have even more, jealous of Jake and his cases. The Longrow 21 has hung around on shelves this year and I ended up buying it at a pretty good discount - unusual for anything from Springbank, which is all normally super difficult to get hold of at all. Haven't opened it up yet though. Arran 21 is my shout for the next battle of the 21s.
such a great wedding whisky Matt! hope you enjoy the Longrow and great shout on the Arran - we're just back from Arran so Lagg and Lochranza are at the front of our minds!
Haven't had the Longrow 21 but all of the other expressions are amazing. Especially the Reds. I wish they would release more versions of Longrow. Cheers 🍻
Amazing episodes, my dudes! However, I'm surprised to not see the Benromach 21! It's at 43% (it is what it is), but it doesn't discredit the liquid which is a shock. Maybe a Benromach episode soon (after the Australian whisky one 😂)? Their single cask expressions are top tier, but exxy too.
thanks JJ! you're not the only one who wants to see the Benromach and an episode focusing on it would be king. Finally found someone to take us on a tour of Aussie whiskies though so watch the space!
I completely agree with the Longrow 21 comments, and I had a similar experience at the distillery on my last trip, there was one bottle of Springbank 15 and 10 bottles of Longrow 21 on the shelf when they opened. I saw someone pickup the 21 just to put it back down. I think some of it might be how well priced the other bottles are at the distillery, they’re not just great, they’re a fantastic value, whereas the 21 is likely a bit over what people want to pay. Longrow is also my favorite of the brands.
probably right when it comes to the shop in Campbeltown, although it's one that seems to hang around everywhere unfortunately. seems as though we're not the only ones who aren't enamoured by it..
I don’t have space so boxes get slung, but I think it’s a really good point about, if you’re saving bottles for special occasions, that the ceremony of opening the box adds to the experience. Hard to go wrong with the Glen Dronach - great quality, consistent and not exorbitantly priced. 21yr olds missed? Edradour (very expensive but superb quality), Glengoyne (standards apparently dropped in recent years would be interesting to discuss), Aultmore (very much under the radar, was impressed with the 18), Glen Scotia (older age statements tend to be overlooked), Glenallachie (wildly expensive and a right bastard to even find), Mortlach (core range is expensive and the 12 I tried was dog shit, which scares me off going near the higher age statements), Tobermory is a great shout.
thanks for the list of recommendations - I'll be sure to come back to the comment section when prepping for our second round. Can't say I've tried the Edradour so you've peaked my interest!
Supposedly, Longrow 21 and Hazel 21 are being discontinued. I recently picked up a few bottles of the. Longrow 21 for 200£. They should be 2023 bottles. I figure that price they’re worth the punt.
Definitely interested in hearing more about Highland Park. They know a thing or two about making whisky at that little Orkney distillery. What I like is how it matches what my impression of Scotch whisky is like in my head. Maybe it's because I used to order Famous Grouse in the pub, or maybe it's because my dad got me a Dragon Legend a couple of years ago. It's like whisky's whisky.
and again a great episode. i love a bit of age on some whisky's. nice discussion. i didnt't had much 21 year old whisky's but liked the glen grant 21 and the highland park
Great episode! I have to be honest when we get to that price point for 21 year old whisky it’s seriously considered choice for me so really glad the only 21 bottle i own is a 2022 bottle of the Glendronach Parliament which I got after watching an episode. Also I have never tried the Longrow 21 but interesting in one of the whisky shops I use I have been in several times and it’s still on the shelf. With the popularity of Springbank Whisky at the minute it did surprise me it was still available so interesting to hear you guys take on it. Just to check is Ian taking impression requests? Micheal Jackson and Gollum in the same episode! 🤣🤣 what next week? Christopher Walken nonchalantly saying Bowmore is shite or Liam Neeson threatening a Master Distiller, “I will look for you, I will find you and I will drink you!” 🤣
delighted that you've got a bottle of the Glendronach on your shelve! your comments on Ian made me laugh - over on The Whisky Baron channel he's possessed by Christopher Walken for a brief moment during one of his festival outings on The Enthusiast Series. I'll let you hunt it down!
I've only had two 21s and that was Glenfarclas and Glendronach and they sit worlds apart the Glendro is just amazing juice and the Farclas is just good......The Bunna and Glenallechie 21s sound amazing both epic distilleries. I have seen the Tobermory 21 and it was a really reasonable price.
I find your aversion to bourbon/rum sweetness hilarious jake because it's not a common complaint at all! Even though I love rum, bourbon, etc I do totally agree with your opinions about harmony and balance of liquids in general. However I think I get frustrated when people can't change their frame of reference per discussion. Like I just do not speak about scotch and bourbon ever in the same sentence unless if I was describing the barrel of a scotch. They are two different liquids with same name of whisky. End of my tiny soap box lol
what makes it weirder is that I have the worst sweet tooth going, so bourbon should be right up my street. I know what you mean - can't wait to do a bourbon episode with someone who knows what they're talking about so I can learn a thing or two
As the rum casks go the most interesting and surprising thing I've ever tried was during one of our cadenheads/springbank warehouse tastings and the concoctions we sampled straight from the cask was called Gum (gin&rum).
@@TheWhiskyBaron don't judge me, but surprisingly yes 😅 On a more serious note it was interesting to see a level of freedom and encouragement that staff has to produce such things.
Steve may I suggest you segment your videos into sections so it's easy to jump back and forth between each bottle review especially when it's over 2 hours long. Just a friendly tip
The first episode where I've tasted all the drams your are trying ,Glendronach 21 wins it for me , the first bottle of whisky i ever bought after trying it on my first ever tasting great dram especially when it was £110 a bottle, but I must revisit the highland park again. I was looking forward to your opinions on the Longrow and i completely agree its nice but certainly far from a special dram and a no buy at the price and the Hazelburn 21 falls into that category as well for me . Good point about the lower abv whisky not staying in peak condition for long and be interested to hear your views on how long bottles stay in good shape for after being opened .
amazing stuff! glad we agree on the winner of the lineup and great to hear that you also picked it up at the old price. would you want an episode on whisky longevity or best long term bottles?
Maybe combine both to give you enough for an episode , whisky longevity is an interesting topic, it’s a common misconception that whisky never changes once opened, I also remember yous saying how yous would try a whisky on bottling day and then open a bottle a couple of weeks later and it had changed from what yous had from the barrel .
@@colinmcquade29 yes, the change from cask to bottle is an interesting one, although probably not something we could expand on enough for a pod. I'll see what we can do regarding an episode on long term bottles though
What happening with glendronach. I have a good collection from these guys also including glendronach Grandeur series, however, i don't see any new stuff and I hear they are moving into cold filter territory, I may be wrong. No new high end stuff from these guys recently
The regular Glenfarclas OB line is the platonic ideal of what a scotch is to the masses. Gentle, lightly sherried and you can feel it’s age. It does nothing special but is also approachable. Is that alluring to the current whisky buyer in todays market that is mostly about the enthusiast finding things that are unique? Probably not. Does it cater to the brand conscious crowd that seeks out macallan? Also no. They are in serious need of a a revamp. They’re reached the point where they are just rather stale and mundane. I’m not gonna but it just cos it’s 21 years old and “cheap”. I’m only going to buy it if it tastes good.
shame to hear everyone's opinions on this and that we're not alone. hopefully they revamp soon! what I'd do to get in front of their creative team for a pitch..
Love the episode guys the Glen farclas 21 year old cask strength for local store in my town is fantastic so much better than the regular 21 and you said nothing wrong with it. Just not anything special. And also as far as 21-year-olds go the dewars dd 21year Mizunara oak also even though it’s a blend is pretty spectacular in my opinion
perhaps, but I'm not going to complain David! you've got to remember that an age statement is just the youngest spirit in a bottle - any brand could be using far older stocks for their core ranges, we just know that this is happening with Glendronach due to the distillery closure
21 year olds eh? Interesting. As to the boxes I chuck away most boxes unless bottles for special occasions or harder to recycle like wood/metal cases. Just like with the 12 year olds, suggestions for any future episodes: Redbreast 21, Glencadam 21, Glen Scotia 21. Sipping a 2008 14yo SV mortlach alongside this.
@@TimHoekstra interesting you say that - I thought it was lovely but I was several deep at a whisky festival so potentially a slightly dead palate. has it always been Madeira matured?
@@TheWhiskyBaron don't get me wrong there is a lot of flavor but there is just a watery edge, it's flavors basically could jump out more at a slightly higher abv. I think it always has been madeira yes. Could ask whiskey novice (jim ingram). He should be able to give a clearer answer or otherwise Tony from his community probably can, he worked there.
I don't mind you asking at all Richard. Ultimately it just comes down to brand protection; they have very strict rules around any of their cask stocks in the secondary market and as a result you can't name it or bottle it as single malt. shame really - the single casks I've had/tried are some of the best expressions IMO
@@danielwilliams7925 I can’t speak for them but I’d say two things. 1. they have a slightly different relationship with distilleries than most indies. 2. Whilst everyone may know, there’s no way of proving it. Pretty decent loophole for this situation
‘Prune juice shit 💩’ Ian. 😂😂😂😂 Glendronach & Longrow easy wins for me, dependant on whether I’m in the mood for peat or otherwise. I recall buying Allardice for £60 and the Parliament for £90. Those were the days !
Man I have over £30k worth of whiskies I have never tasted in my life. Not once. I love the excitement of not knowing what's there and the surprise element. I know I'll like them but not sure how much. Not one of them is glenfiddich and never will be. Mostly all ranges of springbank, glendronach l, glenallachie, 1 macallan, longrows, killkerrans, port ellen, loads of bunnas Just waiting for the special moment. I.e my sons get laid for the first time, they get married, they have kids etc etc. I love the history behind most of these I.e springbank, talisker, glendronach, and the innovative lead from billy from glenallachie which you don't see from 95% of distilleries. The first release of port ellen when they reopened is a special bottle to me for example. I polished off a springbank local barley from the 90s and that was lovely
@@danielwilliams7925 keen ears! Think this was our second episode of the day so more like 10/12 drams deep, but that’s nae excuse for mispronouncing my favourite distillery! Dipping my head in shame
Well, no idea why you chose the 2019 LR21 which was poor and so disappointing - initial price was likely £180. Even so, the last releases have been much better but not worth the money - stick to the LR18 which was £75 when this was released (£110 now)
@@TheWhiskyBaron i was being mischievious - considering the first LR21 since the early 1990s (which were 1974 distilate) I expected so much more!! The Open Day 21 in 2017 was superb though....chiselled austere whilst fat (perhaps oily if better) and lemony
Do you guys read and reply to comments or am I sending signals into space. I put loads of comments on your other vids. I have noticed that the whisky people never reply unless you are a patron and I think it's because they are dual tasting so both hands are full to be able to type on a pc
You guys lost me on the emissions/recyling enviromental stuff. Just enjoy your whisky in good health. 1000 years from now, man and the earth will still be here. If you really believe that stuff then don’t ride a car, don’t take a plane, don’t use electricity at home, forget Amazon etc. don’t buy clothes and last but not the least, don’t use the internet. So called, “sustainability” is not sustainable.
not sure I agree with everything you've said but I definitely hear you - nothing worse that brands selling you a green dream that's completely baseless. we'll do our best to avoid chatting this sort of shite again! sláinte
Lovely discussion lads. Ian was especially sassy, love it!
Amazing episode. The chat on Parliament is so revealing. Love learning thing I didn’t know ❤
glad you enjoyed it Brian and great to hear you learnt something new! sláinte my friend
And again an amazing Episode!! i think a video everyone would love to see would be a video of your bottle collection, open and closed ones.
Thanks for joining us again Luca! Whose collection would you like to see?
would love to see all of them, but i think i want to see jake`s collection the most😅 @@TheWhiskyBaron
@@lucatim13 we’ll see about getting it into the lineup! Not something we had considered before, but happy to oblige if it’s what the people want 🥃🥃
Another decent episode, cheers chaps. I thought I heard somewhere there wont be Longrow 21 for a while due to stock levels but I could be wrong.
I've also heard this.. can't say I'm overly disappointed in honesty. thanks for tuning in and supporting as always DD! sláinte
Excellent episode gents. A 21 year old is generally a steep buy for me but you’ve given me much to chew on when searching out a bottle for a special occasion. Your efforts and opinions on your channel are always appreciated.
thanks for tuning in as ever Jan! appreciate it's not an every day purchase but glad we've at least started highlighting a few options. sláinte my friend!
Another splendid episode gents! Great insight and extreme honesty regarding the drams is what makes this podcast and its members so special. Touching briefly on prices: lately, it seems that msrp levels have jumped quite a bit while auction market prices are steadily declining. In many instances, for a little bit extra money above msrp (or less in sometimes), at auction one could obtain older releases of certain expressions. Like Ian's Highland Park 21 example, these older drams may be slightly higher in quality compared to their modern counterparts. At what point are the currently rising msrp no longer sustainable and it just becomes more worthwhile to seek out things at auction? The amazing 1980s HP12 Ian mentioned in the "battle of the 12s" episode is cheaper than a couple of the bottles featured here, for example ;)
Shhhhhh…. Im enjoying the decline. Let it drop more please 🤣
thanks MM! completely agree with you on pricing and I think depending on the brand you're after, the auctions are definitely a great place to look
@@thedrinking_ewok fingers crossed!
Another great episode gents. I haven’t tried many of those whisky’s but have a bottle of the 22 release Glendronach 21 that I’m currently sitting on waiting for the right occasion to open. It’s definitely getting more expensive on the auctions.
sounds like you've got the best of the bunch so I wouldn't worry too much!
I keep thinking your dad is watching the telly in the other room and then I realise it's a reflection of Ian
😅now that would be a surprise!
😂😂😂
Oh that’s mean!! But very funny.
Glendronach 21 is so good, it was the dram I shared with my groomsmen on the morning of my wedding. Have another couple on the shelf, it would be nice to have even more, jealous of Jake and his cases. The Longrow 21 has hung around on shelves this year and I ended up buying it at a pretty good discount - unusual for anything from Springbank, which is all normally super difficult to get hold of at all. Haven't opened it up yet though. Arran 21 is my shout for the next battle of the 21s.
such a great wedding whisky Matt! hope you enjoy the Longrow and great shout on the Arran - we're just back from Arran so Lagg and Lochranza are at the front of our minds!
Haven't had the Longrow 21 but all of the other expressions are amazing. Especially the Reds. I wish they would release more versions of Longrow. Cheers 🍻
same! if they stopped allocating so much towards the 21 we'd be golden!
Amazing episodes, my dudes!
However, I'm surprised to not see the Benromach 21! It's at 43% (it is what it is), but it doesn't discredit the liquid which is a shock. Maybe a Benromach episode soon (after the Australian whisky one 😂)? Their single cask expressions are top tier, but exxy too.
thanks JJ! you're not the only one who wants to see the Benromach and an episode focusing on it would be king. Finally found someone to take us on a tour of Aussie whiskies though so watch the space!
@@TheWhiskyBaron Excellent my friend! I'm very keen 👌🏻
@@jimmyjazz4605 so am I to be honest - I've been promised things you can't buy on this side of the world so it should hopefully be a special one
Good stuff. Lots more 21s for a second round: Glencadam, Benromach, Benriach, Balblair, Aultmore, Glengoyne… 🥃
lovely recommendations Martin - I feel a round two coming on swiftly!
I completely agree with the Longrow 21 comments, and I had a similar experience at the distillery on my last trip, there was one bottle of Springbank 15 and 10 bottles of Longrow 21 on the shelf when they opened. I saw someone pickup the 21 just to put it back down.
I think some of it might be how well priced the other bottles are at the distillery, they’re not just great, they’re a fantastic value, whereas the 21 is likely a bit over what people want to pay.
Longrow is also my favorite of the brands.
probably right when it comes to the shop in Campbeltown, although it's one that seems to hang around everywhere unfortunately. seems as though we're not the only ones who aren't enamoured by it..
Nice review. Agreed on G'Clas with prices jumping 30-80% in may parts of the World. --- Scotch prices are mad !
not a good look when prices go up and quality goes down!
I don’t have space so boxes get slung, but I think it’s a really good point about, if you’re saving bottles for special occasions, that the ceremony of opening the box adds to the experience.
Hard to go wrong with the Glen Dronach - great quality, consistent and not exorbitantly priced.
21yr olds missed? Edradour (very expensive but superb quality), Glengoyne (standards apparently dropped in recent years would be interesting to discuss), Aultmore (very much under the radar, was impressed with the 18), Glen Scotia (older age statements tend to be overlooked), Glenallachie (wildly expensive and a right bastard to even find), Mortlach (core range is expensive and the 12 I tried was dog shit, which scares me off going near the higher age statements), Tobermory is a great shout.
thanks for the list of recommendations - I'll be sure to come back to the comment section when prepping for our second round. Can't say I've tried the Edradour so you've peaked my interest!
Supposedly, Longrow 21 and Hazel 21 are being discontinued. I recently picked up a few bottles of the. Longrow 21 for 200£. They should be 2023 bottles. I figure that price they’re worth the punt.
supposedly so - let us know what you think!
Definitely interested in hearing more about Highland Park. They know a thing or two about making whisky at that little Orkney distillery. What I like is how it matches what my impression of Scotch whisky is like in my head. Maybe it's because I used to order Famous Grouse in the pub, or maybe it's because my dad got me a Dragon Legend a couple of years ago. It's like whisky's whisky.
I know what you mean - very traditional liquid all around. just a shame about all the Viking/Dragon advertising!
and again a great episode.
i love a bit of age on some whisky's.
nice discussion. i didnt't had much 21 year old whisky's
but liked the glen grant 21 and the highland park
thanks for joining us again Erwin! GG and HP are solid choices - what would be your favourite of the two?
both very good, but the GG a bit better@@TheWhiskyBaron
@@erwinweening709 been a couple of years since I had the GG 21, might need to return!
My understanding is that Speyside was a sub region of Highland before being fully recognised as a region in its own right….
I believe you're right. confusing when you get distilleries bouncing between the two but I suppose it doesn't really matter
Great episode! I have to be honest when we get to that price point for 21 year old whisky it’s seriously considered choice for me so really glad the only 21 bottle i own is a 2022 bottle of the Glendronach Parliament which I got after watching an episode.
Also I have never tried the Longrow 21 but interesting in one of the whisky shops I use I have been in several times and it’s still on the shelf. With the popularity of Springbank Whisky at the minute it did surprise me it was still available so interesting to hear you guys take on it.
Just to check is Ian taking impression requests? Micheal Jackson and Gollum in the same episode! 🤣🤣 what next week? Christopher Walken nonchalantly saying Bowmore is shite or Liam Neeson threatening a Master Distiller, “I will look for you, I will find you and I will drink you!” 🤣
delighted that you've got a bottle of the Glendronach on your shelve! your comments on Ian made me laugh - over on The Whisky Baron channel he's possessed by Christopher Walken for a brief moment during one of his festival outings on The Enthusiast Series. I'll let you hunt it down!
I've only had two 21s and that was Glenfarclas and Glendronach and they sit worlds apart the Glendro is just amazing juice and the Farclas is just good......The Bunna and Glenallechie 21s sound amazing both epic distilleries. I have seen the Tobermory 21 and it was a really reasonable price.
don't they just! the Tobermory is well worth a punt, give it a go Dan
I learned a ton of new stuff about the distilleries in the lineup. Stuff that I can use when I decide to buy a more expensive whisky.
I find your aversion to bourbon/rum sweetness hilarious jake because it's not a common complaint at all! Even though I love rum, bourbon, etc I do totally agree with your opinions about harmony and balance of liquids in general. However I think I get frustrated when people can't change their frame of reference per discussion. Like I just do not speak about scotch and bourbon ever in the same sentence unless if I was describing the barrel of a scotch. They are two different liquids with same name of whisky. End of my tiny soap box lol
what makes it weirder is that I have the worst sweet tooth going, so bourbon should be right up my street. I know what you mean - can't wait to do a bourbon episode with someone who knows what they're talking about so I can learn a thing or two
Sansibar's Finest Whisky Berlin series have oil paintings of distilleries on their front labels. Even the "secret" ones!
cheeky! great whisky knowledge James, sláinte
As the rum casks go the most interesting and surprising thing I've ever tried was during one of our cadenheads/springbank warehouse tastings and the concoctions we sampled straight from the cask was called Gum (gin&rum).
That sounds.. interesting. You enjoyed it?
@@TheWhiskyBaron don't judge me, but surprisingly yes 😅
On a more serious note it was interesting to see a level of freedom and encouragement that staff has to produce such things.
@@summoning111 you’ve certainly peeked my interest. 100% agree with you and full kudos on the creativity side of things
That 2022 Glendronach
Amazing isn’t it!
@@TheWhiskyBaron The bottling I most have stashed
@@DrumondArt smart purchasing right there! Sláinte 🥃
Steve may I suggest you segment your videos into sections so it's easy to jump back and forth between each bottle review especially when it's over 2 hours long. Just a friendly tip
The first episode where I've tasted all the drams your are trying ,Glendronach 21 wins it for me , the first bottle of whisky i ever bought after trying it on my first ever tasting great dram especially when it was £110 a bottle, but I must revisit the highland park again. I was looking forward to your opinions on the Longrow and i completely agree its nice but certainly far from a special dram and a no buy at the price and the Hazelburn 21 falls into that category as well for me . Good point about the lower abv whisky not staying in peak condition for long and be interested to hear your views on how long bottles stay in good shape for after being opened .
amazing stuff! glad we agree on the winner of the lineup and great to hear that you also picked it up at the old price. would you want an episode on whisky longevity or best long term bottles?
Maybe combine both to give you enough for an episode , whisky longevity is an interesting topic, it’s a common misconception that whisky never changes once opened, I also remember yous saying how yous would try a whisky on bottling day and then open a bottle a couple of weeks later and it had changed from what yous had from the barrel .
@@colinmcquade29 yes, the change from cask to bottle is an interesting one, although probably not something we could expand on enough for a pod. I'll see what we can do regarding an episode on long term bottles though
What happening with glendronach. I have a good collection from these guys also including glendronach Grandeur series, however, i don't see any new stuff and I hear they are moving into cold filter territory, I may be wrong. No new high end stuff from these guys recently
Hello gents.
Sounds like another corker
Watching & sipping Bunna cs22
Sláinte to you all 🥃
Wow, now that’s a dram! Thanks for tuning in, sláinte 🥃
The regular Glenfarclas OB line is the platonic ideal of what a scotch is to the masses. Gentle, lightly sherried and you can feel it’s age. It does nothing special but is also approachable.
Is that alluring to the current whisky buyer in todays market that is mostly about the enthusiast finding things that are unique? Probably not. Does it cater to the brand conscious crowd that seeks out macallan? Also no. They are in serious need of a a revamp.
They’re reached the point where they are just rather stale and mundane. I’m not gonna but it just cos it’s 21 years old and “cheap”. I’m only going to buy it if it tastes good.
shame to hear everyone's opinions on this and that we're not alone. hopefully they revamp soon! what I'd do to get in front of their creative team for a pitch..
Glendronach 18/21 seem much cheaper than the UK RRP wow. $299 aud everywhere for the 21 with potential for discounts down to $250 AUD.
sounds like you've got some good value out in your neck of the woods - grab them whilst you can!
Love the episode guys the Glen farclas 21 year old cask strength for local store in my town is fantastic so much better than the regular 21 and you said nothing wrong with it. Just not anything special.
And also as far as 21-year-olds go the dewars dd 21year Mizunara oak also even though it’s a blend is pretty spectacular in my opinion
I have issues with Glendronach bottling a 26 year old as a 21 year old - Seems like an unfair comparison with other 21 year olds
perhaps, but I'm not going to complain David! you've got to remember that an age statement is just the youngest spirit in a bottle - any brand could be using far older stocks for their core ranges, we just know that this is happening with Glendronach due to the distillery closure
21 year olds eh? Interesting. As to the boxes I chuck away most boxes unless bottles for special occasions or harder to recycle like wood/metal cases.
Just like with the 12 year olds, suggestions for any future episodes: Redbreast 21, Glencadam 21, Glen Scotia 21.
Sipping a 2008 14yo SV mortlach alongside this.
great suggesting Tim - was supping on the Bushmills 21 recently and that's another I really want in the next lineup. sláinte!
@@TheWhiskyBaron That bushmills 21 got me into whisky in the first place. If only it got bottled at a slightly higher strength it would be permashelf.
@@TimHoekstra interesting you say that - I thought it was lovely but I was several deep at a whisky festival so potentially a slightly dead palate. has it always been Madeira matured?
@@TheWhiskyBaron don't get me wrong there is a lot of flavor but there is just a watery edge, it's flavors basically could jump out more at a slightly higher abv. I think it always has been madeira yes. Could ask whiskey novice (jim ingram). He should be able to give a clearer answer or otherwise Tony from his community probably can, he worked there.
@@TimHoekstra hoping to get the incredible Janice on the pod soon to do a Bushmills exploration so we can do a deep dive
Jake, if you dont mind me asking, why cant you bottle Glenfarclas as a single malt?
I don't mind you asking at all Richard. Ultimately it just comes down to brand protection; they have very strict rules around any of their cask stocks in the secondary market and as a result you can't name it or bottle it as single malt. shame really - the single casks I've had/tried are some of the best expressions IMO
@@TheWhiskyBaronso how do the SMWS get away with it? It's always a single malt and any member knows distillery no 1
@@danielwilliams7925 I can’t speak for them but I’d say two things.
1. they have a slightly different relationship with distilleries than most indies.
2. Whilst everyone may know, there’s no way of proving it. Pretty decent loophole for this situation
@@TheWhiskyBaronthank you for sharing the knowledge young man.
Everyone knows a 1.x is Glenfarclas but it doesn’t say it, so that’s ok
‘Prune juice shit 💩’ Ian. 😂😂😂😂
Glendronach & Longrow easy wins for me, dependant on whether I’m in the mood for peat or otherwise.
I recall buying Allardice for £60 and the Parliament for £90. Those were the days !
those were the days indeed!
the last highland park 21 years was sold for 80 pound
is that via auction?
Man I have over £30k worth of whiskies I have never tasted in my life. Not once. I love the excitement of not knowing what's there and the surprise element. I know I'll like them but not sure how much. Not one of them is glenfiddich and never will be. Mostly all ranges of springbank, glendronach l, glenallachie, 1 macallan, longrows, killkerrans, port ellen, loads of bunnas Just waiting for the special moment. I.e my sons get laid for the first time, they get married, they have kids etc etc. I love the history behind most of these I.e springbank, talisker, glendronach, and the innovative lead from billy from glenallachie which you don't see from 95% of distilleries. The first release of port ellen when they reopened is a special bottle to me for example.
I polished off a springbank local barley from the 90s and that was lovely
Loved the Glendrolach epilode. Sorry Jake, just busting your balls.
Couldn't agree with you guys more than on this episode.
Ah, do I stumble over it? When’s that?
@@TheWhiskyBaron near the end, 6 drams in though, so I'm being very harsh 😂
@@danielwilliams7925 keen ears! Think this was our second episode of the day so more like 10/12 drams deep, but that’s nae excuse for mispronouncing my favourite distillery! Dipping my head in shame
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springbank 21 and GA 21 would ve good.
I saw him in his new job the other day….
Mark? We filmed this a while ago so know he’s moved on with Duncan Taylor now. Where did you see him?
I was just in their restaurant for something and he passed by on some sort of mission.
@@edfriday7709 sure he's always on a mission Ed!
@@edfriday7709he’s always on a mission of some sort!
Well, no idea why you chose the 2019 LR21 which was poor and so disappointing - initial price was likely £180. Even so, the last releases have been much better but not worth the money - stick to the LR18 which was £75 when this was released (£110 now)
I didn't choose it, it was given to me. wouldn't be one I'd choose at all regardless of the vintage - would probably go younger than the 18 as well
@@TheWhiskyBaron i was being mischievious - considering the first LR21 since the early 1990s (which were 1974 distilate) I expected so much more!! The Open Day 21 in 2017 was superb though....chiselled austere whilst fat (perhaps oily if better) and lemony
@@iansunderland7444 now that sounds like it's right up my street!
Invite me to your live show and I'll bring a special bottle that I guarantee you have not tried.
I fast forwarded when you started on the recycling bollocks, but the rest of the video was much better.
😂 tell us what you really think Sandy! Thanks for tuning in and sorry for the bollocks
Do you guys read and reply to comments or am I sending signals into space. I put loads of comments on your other vids. I have noticed that the whisky people never reply unless you are a patron and I think it's because they are dual tasting so both hands are full to be able to type on a pc
You guys lost me on the emissions/recyling enviromental stuff. Just enjoy your whisky in good health. 1000 years from now, man and the earth will still be here. If you really believe that stuff then don’t ride a car, don’t take a plane, don’t use electricity at home, forget Amazon etc. don’t buy clothes and last but not the least, don’t use the internet. So called, “sustainability” is not sustainable.
not sure I agree with everything you've said but I definitely hear you - nothing worse that brands selling you a green dream that's completely baseless. we'll do our best to avoid chatting this sort of shite again! sláinte
@@TheWhiskyBaron appreciate the kind reply! Love your channel. Cheers to your good health!
@@bom128 thanks for the support, really appreciate it! Hope to see you on the next one 🥃🥃
What an incredibly stupid thing to say.