Weapon Demonstration: Detonator

A video demonstrating the Detonator.
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Damage
Base damage: 23 (100%)
Flare detonation: 11-25 (100%)
Flare explosion: 33-38 (100%)
Critical: 69
Mini-crit: 30
Afterburn: 4 / tick (60 total)
Afterburn (mini-crit): 5 / tick (80 total)
Splash damage
Minimum splash: 6.88 ft (50%)
Self-damage: 23-44
Self damage (rocket jump): 23-44
Function times
Attack interval: 2 s
Afterburn duration: 7.5 s
This is part of an ongoing weapon demonstration project.
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[@dylanshedd6774]

Detonator
100% mini-crits vs burning players
-25% damage penalty
-50% damage to self

[@boneeb]

Welcome to Team Fortress 2 man, Sorry.

[@xx_insert_cool_username_he6876]

Team fortress 2

[@NothingMeansNothingButNothing]

+50%*

[@Oppa_Faloppa]

+50%

[@Nieveria]

flare jumping is a blessing to all pyro mains

[@jennifermoritz5205]

And then comes the thermal thruster

[@mrbabbles5989]

But its extremely hard to flare jump since you have to hold M1, M2, Ctrl and Space AT THE SAME FREAKING TIME.

[@1bum]

MrBabbles not really

[@1bum]

Just change ur crouch key to shift

[@TheShadyBoi]

Jennifer Moritz actually nah
Thermal thruster is loud clunky and doesn’t have a damage dealing option
Unlike the detonator

[@OfficialTF2Wiki]

This demonstration has been redone because the flare guns now apply 7.5 seconds of afterburn (down from 10 seconds) and the afterburn damage has increased to 4, for a total of 8 damage per-second.

[@Stargamer4129]

how do i lett this explode

[@chillwiks9995]

@@Stargamer4129 right click

[@user-ow2cs7fb5l]

So that means that the detonater afterburn does a total of 60 damage?

[@harrydabest8043]

I love that a detonated flare blows people up, its a nice touch.

[@mrbabbles5989]

The only weapon in TF2 that deals more damage to yourself than to the enemy. (23 vs 37)

[@magicmanscott40k]

I never knew it destroys stickies

[@purpleapple4052]

Almost everything destroys stickies
Rockets and airblasts pushes them back but they can be detonated
Stock sticky launchers cant destroy stickies
Melee hits and bullets also destroy stickies

[@jeugene807]

You mean to tell me the *explosions* that light you on *fire* are a *bullet* type? You fucking wut m8?

[@TheShadyBoi]

Superslow human THE GAME HAS CHANGED

[@ceae69]

@@purpleapple4052 explosives and airblast only pushes the stickies

[@purpleapple4052]

@@ceae69 thats what i said but really i admit i worded it poorly

[@monke274]

Flare gun:daniel
Detonator:cooler daniel

[@mysticaltree4875]

Bruh flare gun is damage dealing secondary while detonator is used fo mobility so its not a sidegrade since its a totaly different weapon...

[@monke274]

@@mysticaltree4875 r/wooooosh

[@generalyou6447]

Mann melter:the supportive Daniel

[@monke274]

@@generalyou6447 scorch shot: the annoying daniel

[@Ydhtcmo001]

​@@monke274unskilled daniel

[@aldairchacho7926]

This weapon requires more skill than the Scorch Sh¡t.
Only pro Pyros use this beauty.

[@arandomguywithagreenprofil5075]

Not really it's a straight upgrade from the scortch shot

[@thebushbros6626]

The det is literally better than the Scorch shot

[@Protog3n_pd2]

To be honest, I used this weapon to counter enemies that can't be reached by flamethrower range

[@SU76M]

1:08 Why without enabled crits?

[@purpleapple4052]

Medic only gets crits on melee videos

[@tamasperci4168]

@@purpleapple4052 And even then only if that weapon has random crits.

[@purpleapple4052]

@@tamasperci4168 Eeeh it's supposed to be like that but nearly all melee videos have Medic getting crits regardless of if it has random crits or not
See Eyelander video

[@esbernhawkins5912]

Not as powerful of a launch as the Thermal Thruster, but I prefer this thing regardless due to its drastically shorter cooldown. Not to mention, being able to put in about 20-35 damage from mid-range plus afterburn annoys the enemy at worst and finishes them off or sets them up for an Axtinguisher kill at best.
Probably my second favorite secondary, after the Panic Attack.

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

panic attack is not that good

[@tameronica]

@Diadomergaming555
If you use it well, then it's really good.

[@landchannel7688]

I love it just because flare hit's crit damage is 69

[@francishere123]

idea: Flare Jumper or Deto-Jumper
same as sticky and rocket jumper
no afterburn
does no damage to self or enemies

[@chr0min0id]

*Sewer surfing intensifies*

[@Turtleboilol]

I think this Weapon is fun to use sometimes.
If the damage penalty was removed I think it would be pretty cool.

[@purpleapple4052]

It shouldnt have a damage penalty tbh, only mini-crits is already a downside

[@sihamameur8997]

Team Fortress : Detonator Jumping Self Left a Right

[@Sebbie12333]

If someone Says That The Scorch Shot is Better Than The Detonatot Keep in Mind That The Detonator is A Mobility Tool Not A Spam Tool.

[@MochicoArtemis]

actually, the Scorch Shot is a worse Detonator, since the Detonator is better at both mobility and spamming

[@theyammi437]

Best pyro secondary c:

[@brennanmason1973]

The Yammi its ok, stock shotgun is the best

[@theyammi437]

No U

[@valx7540]

The weapon are of 2009 in meet the sniper and are go to the game in 2010

[@markom7841]

hmm thats some nice english there.

[@stupidlegoproductions]

he tried his best

[@Orang3Eric]

After mastering this, you won't use the Flare Gun anymore. Its a shame people don't use this over the "2easy to use" Scorch Shit.
Nevertheless, Detonator 4 life.

[@Pogger927]

Hehehe meanwhile the Scorch Shot

[@lowqualitypaddler]

here before stickmaster500

[@nickwasnothere4924]

@Jere Jauhojärvilol how

[@arenmee540]

@Jere Jauhojärvi to refresh your memory stickmaster500 is in every single tf2 comment section, and it makes us tf2 viewer go like WTF????

[@FakeCoconut-v7o]

If only it did -23hp for each jump (instead of -40), I would *never* unequip it.

[@citizenblu]

Pyro can now flare jump.

[@mrbabbles5989]

Thermal thruster: am I a joke to you?

[@018e2uwh]

@@mrbabbles5989 he said flare jump it means using flares and not a jetpack.

[@RaystormTheWise]

StickMaster500
10 hours ago
If this jetpack could replenish its charge with ammo packs, I would use it to death!

[@imabird1566]

I see no purpose commenting something someone else commented

[@RaystormTheWise]

Last name First name
10 hours ago
I see no purpose commenting something someone else commented

[@chronos_vnc]

Are you serious?

[@jacobcostillas473]

@@RaystormTheWise bruh

[@pretizell9861]

rebalance idea:
- remove damage penalty, the mini-crits are already fine.
- adds +20% damage against buildings.
- adds bonus damage against airborne players. (20% to 50%).
new downside:
- projectile damage is affected by range. (only on impact the explosion stays the same).

[@DaMaster012]

These are bad ideas.
Additional damage against buildings is redundant, since the Dragon's Fury is already arguably Pyro's best single target anti-building weapon (it deals a flat 75 damage to all buildings and passes through them, allowing the Pyro to shot through a sentry and hit the Engineer behind it).
Bonus 50% damage against airborne players is, without air blast, and extremely situational damage buff that, even with the removal or the damage penalty and stacking all the bonuses, is significantly less powerful that the Flare Gun, which is also vastly less situational. (30 x 1.35 x 1.5 = 60.75 damage against an airborne burning target vs 30 x 3 = 90 against a burning target).
Worst of all, adding damage fall off makes the weapon utterly superfluous. The whole point of flare guns is to accommodate Pyro's weakness of having such a short effective range. Having a flare gun with damage fall off defeats the entire purpose of a Pyro equipping a flare gun.
Why would anyone want to run your proposed Detonator over his other secondaries? Its burst damage potential is more restrictive yet still weaker than the Flare Gun and the Man-Melter, isn't as cheap and easy to spam as the Scorch Shot (though that's a problem with the Scorch Shot), it's building destruction is moot compared to the Dragon's Fury, and with damage fall off, the one thing it has over the other flare guns is detonator jumping, but since the weapon would be so weak as a gun, the player might as well just equip the Thermal Thruster.
The only Pyro secondary worse than this is the Gas Passer. Someone could have convinced me Space Guy Online came up with this.

[@Turtleboilol]

Pretty good rework.
But what do you mean by “Damage is based on range”?
Does it deal less damage at long range?
Does it have reverse falloff like the Crusader’s Crossbow?

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

Can you only get it with crafting recipe or is it also a random drop idk how to get it

[@FieryBlazer9]

Both

[@pseudocoffee4829]

Does the detonator explode on surfaces?

[@FieryBlazer9]

Yes, you can use it like a rocket, and shoot at people's feet to ensure they take the damage.

[@riffmond]

@@FieryBlazer9 Not quite - the Scorch Shot deals splash damage on impact, not the Detonator. The projectile must be manually detonated with M2 for it to deal any splash damage; otherwise, it fizzles out on contact.

[@FieryBlazer9]

@@riffmond OK now I realize that. I've played the game more now and found that out

[@andrewuniverse947]

How do you get the detonator in the first place???

[@ngocdo1394]

Wait for it to drop, buy it, or trade.

[@feemofeelody]

You need a flare gun and two reclaimed metal

[@stinkgoodinc]

You can always craft it if you have the necessary materials

[@xx_insert_cool_username_he6876]

Critical: 69
Nice

[@AwzriCat]

i call hacks they hit the spy while the spy was completely invisible

[@mrbabbles5989]

He was invisible, but not invulnerable.

[@eh2587]

@@mrbabbles5989 Im pretty sure it was a joke

[@AParticularlyPointySoldier]

I am a fucking idiot. All this time I never knew this had a secondary fire button. I have 1.2k hrs btw.

[@yosh_eg_69]

Can i know how i can get this? Is it craftable or buyable.

[@fckgooogle1000x]

TheGamingChemicals I got mine as an item drop

[@ethanvarella4923]

Buyable

[@legenddairy0]

just trade for it on scrap.tf

[@jbognar222]

why are there so many versions of these, i do not mean skins and stuff, i mean similar ones like this such as the flare gun and the scorch shot

[@wael5449]

Scorch shot the better version of detonator

[@joeyjonquantaviusjr9927]

@@wael5449 the lamer version, only crutches use it

[@browdoe]

@@wael5449 detonator is direct upgrade if you learn the manual detonation

[@elyrust1530]

how do you get the detonator?

[@Shemsy.C]

Go on a server, open console, and type "unbindall", you will get the Detonator.

[@Turtleboilol]

@@Shemsy.C
You monster

[@Shemsy.C]

@@Turtleboilol heheheha

[@moltzer]

Windows 7?

[@mrbabbles5989]

The worst Flare Gun for Pyro.
Edit: no longer.

[@ImBusenlolXD]

keep thinking that

[@MoustachioFurioso83]

The hardest to use correctly, you mean. But yeah, it just doesn't have the power of the standard Flare Gun or the brain-dead ease of use of the Scorch Shot.
Manmelter? Never heard of that.

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

@@ImBusenlolXD The guy isn't wrong tho.
I love the Detonator, the extra air it gives you and the utility it has is wonderful, but it just can't compete with the Scorch Shot because it everything the Detonator can and is infinitely more intuitive, practical, and deals much more damage with direct hits, can be used to flare-jump, deals less damage to you when you do it, even if it's less air on the jumps, and it is quicker to dispose of stickies. It's actually sad. :/
I mean... say you have a floor with stickies. If you just got there and have maybe a second of reaction time to dispose of them, half the time the Detonator's manual detonation mechanic is going to screw you over. With the Scorch Shot it's just point and shoot, and it's done. Even the manual detonation, which requires much more skill to properly use, does not correctly reward players with more damage over the Scorch Shot, so it's only real advantage is detonating it up in places that are above you. That's it.
I wish that valve would nerf the Scorch Shot, and just make it deal less damage or something, whereas they would slightly buff the Detonator's overall damage. This would benefit the class a lot and promote players to use both weapons, instead of just the Scorch Shot, while we hipsters grumble with our precious Detonator.

[@ImBusenlolXD]

@@KRIMZONMEKANISM no.

[@mrbabbles5989]

​@@ImBusenlolXD I keep thinking that because it deals very low damage, and it doesn't detonate itself by hitting the wall (like Soldier's rockets). If only it could...

[@ethanvarella4923]

Lol who watches this? (Me)

[@XteroBlade2117]

This is literally the worst flare gun for pyro

[@local_stranger]

laughs in mannmelter

[@mr.d00m37]

You're dumb lol

[@mysticaltree4875]

No its not its perfect for mobility while still being abble to outpust damage and remove stickies yes thermal thruster exists but with detonator u still can deal damage

[@mrbabbles5989]

@@mysticaltree4875 With Scorch Shot, however, you can destroy stickies AND flare jump. Also it deals more damage, can push enemies and you don't need to control its explosion radius.

[@mrbabbles5989]

@@unityofvitality-5875 But Detonator has horribly low damage.

[@fckgooogle1000x]

Imagine a "Flare Jumper"

[@Wondereggguy]

That would defeat the purpose of the thermal thruster tho, I would love to have one tho

[@pisstol]

Shot flare gun.
Why airdrop didn't comming?

[@lowqualitypaddler]

you did not shoot it to the sky