He was saying it so loud and proud like bro, it’s your job to raise your kids 🤦🏻♀️ plus he openly admitted that he wasn’t there for his son for the first 8 years of his childhood that’s sad right there.
Not that I agree with the father and his stance on this but I think a lot of people misunderstood what he was saying. He has mentioned his sons mother being his life when he was younger and then said he raised his son since he was 8… what he was trying to say was that he raised his son by himself (without the bio mother) since he was 8. Meaning before he was 8, his mother and father raised him but from 8 years old the father was the only one to raise him.
He wouldn't see my child either, especially if my child's father referred to him as a pedophile. There wouldn't be enough evidence to convince me otherwise.
What I've learned over the years is to trust your gut. Between the son saying his dad was a pedophile, the son having drug problems and constant fights with his dad, and the dad's comments on women.....yeah, there's a little alarm bell going off for me. I can only imagine how it is for the mom. Sure, it's good for your child to be loved, but it's awful to expose them to danger when you have a feeling something is wrong. I'm a little surprised that the judge even brought up visits; the pedo thing mentioned...it just smelled off. They couldn't pinpoint where the "rumor" started or why the son would say that and then used "my niece comes over and it hasn't been a problem!" as evidence.
Absolutely. I don't care what the alleged abuser wants, keeping the kid(s) safe is the first priority. He can play it cool until a parent is comfortable trusting him alone with their child(ren) then he's got an established relationship and can take advantage.
As soon as he said a woman can’t teach her I knew JM was going to lay into him. Dude you didn’t even have a relationship with your son. Give her what she wants and spend time with your granddaughter.
I actually understood what he was trying to say. However, it was in the WRONG context. She said she wanted to share things about the baby's father. His comprehension of her emotional expression was off. She didn't say she wanted to teach her daughter how to be a man. There is a huge difference.
Bingo! I thought that the money value was the issue the Dad was holding phone and laptop, but obviously his poor son turned to drugs to deal with something horrible. I’m dying to know what the Plaintiff heard about granddad’s character
Shit. My exhusband lives with his parents. My exhusband gets abused daily from his parents. Our daughters go up on every other weekend and summer breaks. Not fair to our daughters to see that. Then my exhusband is like the girls are lying because they're mom is alienating me from them. No showers my oldest doesn't take her meds. Talking shit about me. Life is good
Just because the girlfriend allows her niece to come over. It doesn’t mean the plaintiff needs to allow her daughter around the grandfather. There might be something said about the son’s allegations.
It seems super bizarre to me that a grown son would tell the mother of his child that his father was a pedophile and wouldn’t allow his daughter around him if there wasn’t some truth there he knew about. A son who was raised by this man as he claims would not listen to rumors and just believe or share the lies. I think the mom has every right to not want her daughter around him. They could maybe work out a supervised visit schedule so mom can feel safe and the child gets loving grandparents in her corner. It’s definitely a touchy situation and if ever there is doubt, go the safe route. Spoken as someone who was sexually assaulted as well as my siblings and my mother claimed she didn’t believe us, that we just wanted attention, then kept us in the same home.
😔😔😔😔 that is terrible and my heart goes out to you. I hope you and your siblings are receiving counseling and all the love and support you need to deal with the trauma you’ve been issued. It’s so unfair and heartbreaking. Sending love your way ❤
Apparently his son didn't want him around his child so her mother should definitely consider the info that she received about the situation from the family member that was impacted.
Thank you for your testimony. Btw, I would not let him near my niece unsupervised - SUPERVISED BY ME. Ever. Just based on his actions and demeanor in court, let alone these horrible accusations.
Em C I'M SO SORRY THAT YOU WERE NOT BELIEVED 🙏 THIS BREAKS MY HEART TO EVER THINK ANY SMALL CHILD OR CHILDREN WOULD HAVE TO ENDURE SUCH HORROR! PLEASE TAKE GOOD CARE, SENDING YOU SO MUCH LOVE & HUGS. STAY BLESSED 🙏♥ ❤
Maybe dad sexually abused son and that’s what led him to drug use and depression… I also think dad may think son has something abt the abuse on the devices so he wants to hold on to them.
Ego and entitlement. Just because they were your child DOES NOT automatically mean you are entitled to their belongings. Unfortunately for the dad, his adult child died with with a life and child of his own. Those other people matter too
The AUDACITY of the judge to tell that mother she should have her daughter around the grandfather who owns son accused him of being a pedophile is beyond ridiculous. I'm glad that woman sounds like she's smart enough not to listen. And people wonder why kids are victimized the way they are.
The judge was being careful on what she was saying to the plaintiff by saying really to use her judgment. If he is a pedophile and he may be more likely than not, she should not allow her to be with him. I think it's why she said he may not see her until she is 18. Usually the judge would flat out say, "What proof do you have?" in regards to what the person is accused of being, but she didn't. The plaintiff didn't say anything about the rumors of pedophilia, the wife did. So I think the judge may feel strongly that he is, indeed, some sort of abuser. Supervised visits are best in this situation.
Yeah, my jaw dropped when she said that. And she insinuated that it was normal because she was a single mother! I am a single mother. THAT IS NOT NORMAL! I do not understand why she is so messed up to think that that is ok?
Agreed, like even if I were a judge as a man, I don't see what him being a man makes him better at telling a story. Even more so that his wife did a better job telling the story than him.
@@mnschoen Afghanistan, Syria, South Sudan, Chad, Sudan, Sierra, Somalia. Has less women rights/ less say so even in may don't have the right to speak or own anything. Also part where I said what they could be saying "us", they think we are wrong on equal rights, don't believe in it.
As someone who was SA’ed by a family member, the judge’s advice is terrible. I wish my parents prioritized protecting ME over maintaining family relationships. Keep your kids safe, first and for all.
The defendant is trying his best to get that grandchild to his house! Such a ridiculous statement about her mother not being capable of sharing history about her daughter's father.
I don't know if it's normal to have to constantly argue with your kids...I rarely if ever have to raise my voice...I probably repeat myself a thousand times but arguing ain't happening.
@dance4life1208 people always need someone to blame. My friend was murdered by his boyfriend (given a hot shot during recovery in order to make him "re-addicted") and I knew the police were looking for his partner. I called the police when his partner showed up to the memorial, so I wasn't allowed at the funeral 🥺
As a single mother. I can assure people that IT IS NOT NORMAL TO ARGUE WITH YOUR CHILD CONSTANTLY!! The fact that she said that actually speaks volumes on her messed up way of thinking!!
Is this judge for real?! This case could’ve been resolved in less than 10 minutes. The plaintiff has every right to her deceased boyfriends item the father doesn’t! They were dating, living together, and have a child together during his time of living. What gives the defendants the right to go through the plaintiffs home and taking whatever they like! I’m upset the judge did not talk about that smfh.
My comment is almost the JM judgment be bias! And to tell a mom to bring daughter around a man his own son didn't trust is CRAZY! She wouldn't want that advice on her daughters
@@labradoriteatheart so sorry to hear about your loss! Thats got to be one of the hardest things in life! I pray that God continue to give you Strength! God Bless you and your family!
@@labradoriteatheart it depends on the situation. In this situation, the gf and their kid(s) have the right to his items and belongings. Even though they weren’t married, they are still consider a couple. Plus they were living together and supporting each other, the father wasn’t supporting him the gf was.
i'm getting "drug addict" vibes from the defendant; WHATEVER! the plaintiff's late companion told her about his father, I give her props for respecting his memory & NOT! telling the defendant's companion, WHY?! is it her business?! she has a right to protect her child IF?! the grandfather has "issues" that the plaintiff thinks will affect her child.
It’s wild how many difunctional people are out there. If the defendant wanted to see his grandchild more than he wanted a laptop, this situation would have gone down much differently. These were sad broken people long before Victor died. Sad and shameful behavior all the way around!!
Slightly disturbed that the judge is encouraging the plaintiff let her child around this man. The accusations alone are cause for concern, but his overall demeanor in general speaks volumes. Keep that child away from him.
As a mother you don’t gamble on your childs safety. If the father of that child says that person in his OWN family is a danger you listen no questions asked. The wife statement is irrelevant her niece and the plaintiffs daughter are 2 different ppl. The son wasn’t on drugs and had a rocky relationship with his father for no reason. Keep that baby safe.
@@trayjenea5830 No you didn't. But you can go and edit it if you meant that. Your comment still says that he wasn't on drugs. Do you know how to edit comments?
What's sad is that the deceased said his dad was a pedophile...what did the son know or experience to say that? Rumors based on fact or just a lie? No wonder the plaintiff doesn't want her daughter around the defendant...
It floors me when parents try to pull the "I raised him since-" statement- like, are they thinking they should be admired for parenting? And in this specific case, to add to the statement "since he was 8"- well, where were you those first 8 years when you weren't raising him? Those are the most formative years! I believe the Plaintiff handled this much better than the father; she tried to keep the personal stuff out (like how Victor passed away) clearly out of respect while the dad just threw it out there like he was so damn proud to be spilling the tea on his son. Disgusting father.
When the judge said wouldn't it be better to be a part of the granddaughter's life now I burst out laughing because the guy wasn't involved in his own son's life until he was 8 years old why would she think he wants anything to do with a child that's under 8 years old apparently they don't need to be taken care of until being that he said that he raised the kid on his own from 8 until now and that the birth mother did nothing but what about those other 8 years
A man being the only one able to explain who his son is to his granddaughter is so stupid.. there’s definitely something sus about the deceased father.
Keep your child away from that man, when she is grown and decides she wants to know him then she can make that decision, but for now it's your job as a mom to protect her. I am convinced there is much more to this case than what we just witnessed.
Wow I wish I would have known about this in 2020 when my son's father died unexpectedly and his family took all his property and gave it to everyone and anyone else, but left my son with nothing of his father's.... Not even an answer on how or why he died either.
People have to stop lying about why so many young people are dying of heart attacks brought on by drug overdoses. Its a clear lie that coroners make very clear on death certificates. The lie doesnt help the situation or spread the very real consequences of drug use.
I thought it was very strange that the father said that there are some things that only a man can teach a child, sounds like the paedophile rumours, might not just be rumours...
Normal people don’t get accused of being a pedo, normal people don’t argue with their kids regularly and normal people don’t raise their kids from 8 to overdose. Plaintiff needs to do exactly what she is doing and keep her daughter far away from those people. They are not going to add anything to her life
Maybe if dad got along with his son he wouldn’t have to steal from his granddaughter so he can “get to know” his son after he’s gone. How pathetic.Why would a son call his father a pedophile? There’s more to this story. If he ever sees granddaughter it should only be with supervision.
This case is so simple it should have never even came to the courtroom! It's as simple as did he have a will or not if he didn't have a will his possessions go to his next-of-kin which is his child not his father. The guy's dad had no right to start taking things and giving them away
Imagine sitting up defending your man against and even going as far sad to say you bring ur niece around him. When his own son said he’s a pedophile. She’s a bad touch auntie. Too many women that know these men are predators and sitting up with him defending him. Whew couldn’t be me!!!
She wants to keep a laptop and a phone for a bit daughter who’s three years old that by the time she knows how to use, it would be so obsolete she won’t be able to turn it on.
This was explained. She is the executrix or something like that of the estate. There daughter is entitled to all his belongings. The defendant had no right to the deceased stuff. Next of kin is his daughter. I honestly dont think they realised that.
My kids always said their dad and I were not Normal. I just looked at her and said so that makes youuuuuuu???? Accept it and live your best life!!💜 Arguing with your child everyday is considered "normal "?
This case was just messy…..the father was being greedy feeling entitled to items that ain’t his. Why does he need a computer to feel closer to his son was just a stupid argument…..
When it comes relationships family and so called friends need to stay out of it and the defendant should have not touched anything that stuff belongs to the daughter the father and girlfriend crossed way too many boundaries.the plaintiff should have gotten married ,wife has more rights than girlfriends.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 AMEN and Hallelujah to that. I keep telling these women that when men die, BABY MAMA means nothing. Unless he had you on an insurance policy, mentioned you in his will, or gave you POA, you can forget it. That is what y'all get for being non-legal wives.
Am I the only one that has an inkling that the father did something to the son? Why would he be so adamant about accusing him? Also a lot of people who have been abused as children go to drugs as adults to cope.
Dear defendant Lady - it is NOT normal to constantly argue with your kids - or anyone. :( I've been married 17 years and had 2 arguments with my hubbs in all that time. Adults find ways to communicate and work around things.
Inheritance goes down to kids first, parents then siblings. Assuming no will. Defendant has zero claim as the plaintiff's daughter inherits the estate. Plaintiff is the administrator of the estate. Since she didn't authorize the removal of the laptop and even repeatedly requested it back. Defendant just wanted a free laptop. (Oh it's a macbook pro, yeah, defendant just wanted a free mac) The defendant's insistence to gatekeeper his son's memory. Every memory is on the phone & laptop, and he refuses to hand if over to gatekeep the memory. The kid is gonna grow up without any connection to her father.
But he had left her. She was the ex girlfriend. They must have divided their property when he moved out. He had moved in with a new girlfriend. Why did she not say anything about the laptop then? How long was she willing to be without it before she had a claim on it? He could have lived for years and years until the daughter was grown up. If it really was about the sentimental value why did she not get a hard drive and copy everything before he left? Why was it only these items she was interested in? I feel she wanted them for the monetary value.
If the son accused the dad of being a pediment guessing the dad abused the son or the son witnessed something and it’s probably why he suffered from depression. Men rarely bring abuse up and the son did.
The mom is only protecting her daughter & watching out for her daughters best interest. Rumors like that are spread, if their true or not, a mom needs to do everything in her control to protect her children. Any half way decent grandparent would understand that, rather the rumor was true or not. It’s not about the mother or the grandfather, it’s about the well interest in the child, ALWAYS. ALSO if he “raised” his son from the age for 8- adulthood (which is weird bc my dad raised me from birth to adult hood, I raid my children from birth to adulthood, my husband raises our children from birth to adulthood & if he expects the mother to bring the child to him to get to know her own father, then why did he say he needed/wanted to keep the items so he could “get to know” his son?! Like that’s so dumb.
The father says “I raised him since he was 8,” Like he should be commended. You know kids are born 8 years before they’re 8. What a tool.
Narcissistic creep…
He was saying it so loud and proud like bro, it’s your job to raise your kids 🤦🏻♀️ plus he openly admitted that he wasn’t there for his son for the first 8 years of his childhood that’s sad right there.
better than some but still not good enough
Not that I agree with the father and his stance on this but I think a lot of people misunderstood what he was saying. He has mentioned his sons mother being his life when he was younger and then said he raised his son since he was 8… what he was trying to say was that he raised his son by himself (without the bio mother) since he was 8. Meaning before he was 8, his mother and father raised him but from 8 years old the father was the only one to raise him.
He wouldn't see my child either, especially if my child's father referred to him as a pedophile. There wouldn't be enough evidence to convince me otherwise.
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Big factzzz 💯
The complete reason he died was nobody's business to air out. Shame on you to the father.
I figured it was an overdose as soon as she said there was other issues.
She lied though.
@@susiesolangesimpson2828 Drugs can cause a heart attack.
@@janetmccoy7945 as a result of being on drugs. It wasn’t just a random heart attack.
@@susiesolangesimpson2828 I think she jus didn’t want to speak bad on her child’s father 🤦🏽♀️ it wasn’t our business he was a drug addict.
If his own child called him a pedophile, the mother shouldn't allow her child to be around him. I know I couldn't!
No responsible parent would!
Yeah he'd just be missing the moment I found out. Because I'm telling everyone so someone would off him. 🤷🏽♀🤷🏽♀
Exactly
That probably y his @$$ is dead
I sure as heck wouldn't
The dad thinking he was entitled to anything is ridiculous!
And a baby mama thinking she is entitled to anything is ridiculous as well. The estate goes to the child.
@@Childfree334 I agree. What made me say that was the intro whenever he said that he was entitled to his son stuff because he was father
@@Childfree334 The child is underage so she would be the person in control until the child is of age. She said she wanted the things for her child.
@@Childfree334 Are you dense? Did you expect an 8 year old to come to court instead? So dumb.
@@LeolaGlamourthat is correct. I was on his situation myself.
I would be hesitant to bring a child to a family member who had been accused of abuse.
What I've learned over the years is to trust your gut. Between the son saying his dad was a pedophile, the son having drug problems and constant fights with his dad, and the dad's comments on women.....yeah, there's a little alarm bell going off for me. I can only imagine how it is for the mom. Sure, it's good for your child to be loved, but it's awful to expose them to danger when you have a feeling something is wrong. I'm a little surprised that the judge even brought up visits; the pedo thing mentioned...it just smelled off. They couldn't pinpoint where the "rumor" started or why the son would say that and then used "my niece comes over and it hasn't been a problem!" as evidence.
@@TheDreamingMyriad I immediately started worrying about that niece! That statement alone showed how clued out the Dad’s girlfriend is.
Absolutely. I don't care what the alleged abuser wants, keeping the kid(s) safe is the first priority.
He can play it cool until a parent is comfortable trusting him alone with their child(ren) then he's got an established relationship and can take advantage.
As soon as he said a woman can’t teach her I knew JM was going to lay into him. Dude you didn’t even have a relationship with your son. Give her what she wants and spend time with your granddaughter.
He raised him from eight till grown up and dead from an overdose. Maybe he's not the best candidate for parent figure of the year.
Bad move….
No, he’s a pedo and shouldn’t be around kids.
I don't believe a woman knows how to be a man any more than I know how to be a woman. but what he said was utter nonsense.
I actually understood what he was trying to say. However, it was in the WRONG context. She said she wanted to share things about the baby's father. His comprehension of her emotional expression was off. She didn't say she wanted to teach her daughter how to be a man. There is a huge difference.
The father is afraid that there are less than flattering information on devices.
My thoughts as well. Is there something he wanted to hide
Exactly!!! and he has the son's journals
His current wife knows..
Fighting so hard over something that makes no sense
DAVID, DID YOU MEAN "FLATTERING?" RIGHT?
IT TOOK ME A MINUTE TO UNDERSTAND.
@@katymcginn4644 Me too.
Bingo! I thought that the money value was the issue the Dad was holding phone and laptop, but obviously his poor son turned to drugs to deal with something horrible. I’m dying to know what the Plaintiff heard about granddad’s character
I would never bring my child to someone accused of being a pedifile or child abuse. Not in a million years.
Boy oh boy is the father entitled.
Shit. My exhusband lives with his parents. My exhusband gets abused daily from his parents. Our daughters go up on every other weekend and summer breaks. Not fair to our daughters to see that. Then my exhusband is like the girls are lying because they're mom is alienating me from them. No showers my oldest doesn't take her meds. Talking shit about me. Life is good
Just because the girlfriend allows her niece to come over. It doesn’t mean the plaintiff needs to allow her daughter around the grandfather. There might be something said about the son’s allegations.
JM was asking girlfriend questions she should of been asking plaintiff! JM be bias sometimes.
It seems super bizarre to me that a grown son would tell the mother of his child that his father was a pedophile and wouldn’t allow his daughter around him if there wasn’t some truth there he knew about. A son who was raised by this man as he claims would not listen to rumors and just believe or share the lies. I think the mom has every right
to not want her daughter around him. They could maybe work out a supervised visit schedule so mom can feel safe and the child gets loving grandparents in her corner. It’s definitely a touchy situation and if ever there is doubt, go the safe route. Spoken as someone who was sexually assaulted as well as my siblings and my mother claimed she didn’t believe us, that we just wanted attention, then kept us in the same home.
😔😔😔😔 that is terrible and my heart goes out to you. I hope you and your siblings are receiving counseling and all the love and support you need to deal with the trauma you’ve been issued. It’s so unfair and heartbreaking. Sending love your way ❤
No way I’m not letting a suspected pedo even with supervision. Kids should be protected
Apparently his son didn't want him around his child so her mother should definitely consider the info that she received about the situation from the family member that was impacted.
Thank you for your testimony.
Btw, I would not let him near my niece unsupervised - SUPERVISED BY ME. Ever. Just based on his actions and demeanor in court, let alone these horrible accusations.
Em C I'M SO SORRY THAT YOU WERE NOT BELIEVED 🙏 THIS BREAKS MY HEART TO EVER THINK ANY SMALL CHILD OR CHILDREN WOULD HAVE TO ENDURE SUCH HORROR!
PLEASE TAKE GOOD CARE, SENDING YOU SO MUCH LOVE & HUGS. STAY BLESSED 🙏♥ ❤
Maybe dad sexually abused son and that’s what led him to drug use and depression… I also think dad may think son has something abt the abuse on the devices so he wants to hold on to them.
That's what I was thinking
This was my next comment!!!!!
Ego and entitlement. Just because they were your child DOES NOT automatically mean you are entitled to their belongings. Unfortunately for the dad, his adult child died with with a life and child of his own. Those other people matter too
His son didn’t call him a pedophile for nothing. Smh
The AUDACITY of the judge to tell that mother she should have her daughter around the grandfather who owns son accused him of being a pedophile is beyond ridiculous. I'm glad that woman sounds like she's smart enough not to listen. And people wonder why kids are victimized the way they are.
JM judgment was wrong in my opinion.
JM is arrogant and sounds so ignorant 🙄 at times!! Her ego definitely gets in the way!
You know why she said that 😒 their mutual language. Sometimes she’s full of it.
The judge was being careful on what she was saying to the plaintiff by saying really to use her judgment. If he is a pedophile and he may be more likely than not, she should not allow her to be with him. I think it's why she said he may not see her until she is 18. Usually the judge would flat out say, "What proof do you have?" in regards to what the person is accused of being, but she didn't. The plaintiff didn't say anything about the rumors of pedophilia, the wife did. So I think the judge may feel strongly that he is, indeed, some sort of abuser.
Supervised visits are best in this situation.
Judge Milan definitely was serving a lot of audacity with that BS statement.
Arguing with your child constantly is never normal. This lady really said this.
Yeah, my jaw dropped when she said that. And she insinuated that it was normal because she was a single mother!
I am a single mother. THAT IS NOT NORMAL! I do not understand why she is so messed up to think that that is ok?
The dad wants it for money. She's the executor of the estate point, blank, period!
Uh oh. He should have never said that about women. Ridiculous
Agreed, like even if I were a judge as a man, I don't see what him being a man makes him better at telling a story. Even more so that his wife did a better job telling the story than him.
In some culture that is their belief, not saying that it's right but just think that is what they could be think of us.
stop being sensitive he is right
@@keithjoseph7433 "Some cultures" are...who? And "Us" are...who?
@@mnschoen Afghanistan, Syria, South Sudan, Chad, Sudan, Sierra, Somalia. Has less women rights/ less say so even in may don't have the right to speak or own anything. Also part where I said what they could be saying "us", they think we are wrong on equal rights, don't believe in it.
As someone who was SA’ed by a family member, the judge’s advice is terrible. I wish my parents prioritized protecting ME over maintaining family relationships. Keep your kids safe, first and for all.
oops! daddy's wrong. If there was NO will, the dead son's daughter gets EVERYTHING
This is so sad but so typical. Someone dies and it turns into a war over the deceased’s property. Just shameful
The vultures always come out to prey on vulnerable people.
She's better off keeping her daughter away from them.
I definitely agree with you on that
Idk but if my child’s father tells me that he’s a pedophille I’m not letting them have a relationship. Better safe than sorry
The defendant is trying his best to get that grandchild to his house! Such a ridiculous statement about her mother not being capable of sharing history about her daughter's father.
If the person could be harmful I wouldn't want my child around them. Even the dog was trying to tell his side of the story to Doug at the end 🤣
I feel like even if we had evidence that those rumors were true the defendant wife wouldn’t even leave him
She looks creepy as hell
Yeah, women like that stay with their pedo partner all the time!
I don't know if it's normal to have to constantly argue with your kids...I rarely if ever have to raise my voice...I probably repeat myself a thousand times but arguing ain't happening.
Exactly
exactly, its not normal or healthy
If his own son said that. You really have no choice but to protect your child. Or you would never forgive yourself.
Protect that baby at all cost… period!!!!
Victor would not want his daughter around that man, unfortunately
I think the father somewhat blames the plaintiff for his son overdosing
But why
They weren’t together anymore when he died numbnuts.
@dance4life1208 people always need someone to blame. My friend was murdered by his boyfriend (given a hot shot during recovery in order to make him "re-addicted") and I knew the police were looking for his partner. I called the police when his partner showed up to the memorial, so I wasn't allowed at the funeral 🥺
I cant believe the "mediator" felt like she was making a good point
As a single mother. I can assure people that IT IS NOT NORMAL TO ARGUE WITH YOUR CHILD CONSTANTLY!! The fact that she said that actually speaks volumes on her messed up way of thinking!!
Is this judge for real?! This case could’ve been resolved in less than 10 minutes. The plaintiff has every right to her deceased boyfriends item the father doesn’t! They were dating, living together, and have a child together during his time of living. What gives the defendants the right to go through the plaintiffs home and taking whatever they like! I’m upset the judge did not talk about that smfh.
My comment is almost the JM judgment be bias! And to tell a mom to bring daughter around a man his own son didn't trust is CRAZY! She wouldn't want that advice on her daughters
@@labradoriteatheart not legally. It goes to their kids first
@@labradoriteatheart the child has the rights to the stuff not his parents
@@labradoriteatheart so sorry to hear about your loss! Thats got to be one of the hardest things in life! I pray that God continue to give you Strength! God Bless you and your family!
@@labradoriteatheart it depends on the situation. In this situation, the gf and their kid(s) have the right to his items and belongings. Even though they weren’t married, they are still consider a couple. Plus they were living together and supporting each other, the father wasn’t supporting him the gf was.
Only a man can tell a child about her father????? I'd keep him away from her!
There is something behind the defendant being called a pedophile by his own child! Good on the plaintiff for keeping her child away from him.
Defendants look like they smell hot dog water and parmesan cheese. The dad should've taken his son's chapsticks if he had that option.
i'm getting "drug addict" vibes from the defendant; WHATEVER! the plaintiff's late companion told her about his father, I give her props for respecting his memory & NOT! telling the defendant's companion, WHY?! is it her business?! she has a right to protect her child IF?! the grandfather has "issues" that the plaintiff thinks will affect her child.
It’s wild how many difunctional people are out there. If the defendant wanted to see his grandchild more than he wanted a laptop, this situation would have gone down much differently. These were sad broken people long before Victor died. Sad and shameful behavior all the way around!!
It's a macbook, I think the defendant just wanted a free mac and felt entitled to it. If he didn't pawn it.
What did the ex do that is shameful? She only wants items to keep for the deceased person’s child.
dysfunctional* and that is so true.
Slightly disturbed that the judge is encouraging the plaintiff let her child around this man. The accusations alone are cause for concern, but his overall demeanor in general speaks volumes. Keep that child away from him.
Happy Monday ya'll. Idk about ya'll but I'm already over it. Lol.
Lol 😂 not "over it." It's only Monday..🤣😂 I hope you have a great week ❤
I feel you. I'm over it too 😔
As a mother you don’t gamble on your childs safety. If the father of that child says that person in his OWN family is a danger you listen no questions asked. The wife statement is irrelevant her niece and the plaintiffs daughter are 2 different ppl. The son wasn’t on drugs and had a rocky relationship with his father for no reason. Keep that baby safe.
The son was on drugs , were you not listening
@@dance4life1208 i said he was on drugs🧐
Absolutely correct!!!
@@dance4life1208 you misread her statement apparently.
@@trayjenea5830 No you didn't. But you can go and edit it if you meant that. Your comment still says that he wasn't on drugs. Do you know how to edit comments?
I bet he will try and delete pics and all of the computer
What's sad is that the deceased said his dad was a pedophile...what did the son know or experience to say that? Rumors based on fact or just a lie? No wonder the plaintiff doesn't want her daughter around the defendant...
Rumors are most often true in some form.
It floors me when parents try to pull the "I raised him since-" statement- like, are they thinking they should be admired for parenting? And in this specific case, to add to the statement "since he was 8"- well, where were you those first 8 years when you weren't raising him? Those are the most formative years! I believe the Plaintiff handled this much better than the father; she tried to keep the personal stuff out (like how Victor passed away) clearly out of respect while the dad just threw it out there like he was so damn proud to be spilling the tea on his son. Disgusting father.
Wow. What a twat he is for saying something like that to the judge.. 😒
The girlfriend rolling her eyes after her man said “a WoMaN cAnT dO tHaT” knowing he was about to get laid into 😂
I don’t know if it’s normal to argue with your grown children. Me and my mom never argue
When the judge said wouldn't it be better to be a part of the granddaughter's life now I burst out laughing because the guy wasn't involved in his own son's life until he was 8 years old why would she think he wants anything to do with a child that's under 8 years old apparently they don't need to be taken care of until being that he said that he raised the kid on his own from 8 until now and that the birth mother did nothing but what about those other 8 years
A man being the only one able to explain who his son is to his granddaughter is so stupid.. there’s definitely something sus about the deceased father.
He shouldn't take those things.
It's always better to have more ppl, who can be trusted, love your child
Keep your child away from that man, when she is grown and decides she wants to know him then she can make that decision, but for now it's your job as a mom to protect her. I am convinced there is much more to this case than what we just witnessed.
in the words of Judge Judy "NOT BASICALLY" *Hits the table* 👩🏼⚖️⚖️
It is absolutely NOT always better to have more people love a child, especially if one of those people is a pedophile.
Dad got a yuck mouth. I don’t know how anybody kissing that. 🤢 Anyway, he was wrong to take the child’s inheritance.
I was thinking the exact same thing, glad ya beat me to the punch /- that dad looks crazy
No way I would leave my daughter or son be around that man... his son call him pedophile...why would this woman risk and put her daughter in danger..
The look on the judge's face when she asked him why she was ready to give him the business lol
Wow I wish I would have known about this in 2020 when my son's father died unexpectedly and his family took all his property and gave it to everyone and anyone else, but left my son with nothing of his father's.... Not even an answer on how or why he died either.
The defendants look weird. Like the girl is on his lap.
Wait so who raised he from birth to 8. The defendants seems trashy to me!
People have to stop lying about why so many young people are dying of heart attacks brought on by drug overdoses. Its a clear lie that coroners make very clear on death certificates. The lie doesnt help the situation or spread the very real consequences of drug use.
But it was a heart attack, just from drugs
Exactly people kill me lying about stuff like that when they could bring awareness to it.
Excellent comment and good advice.
I wouldn’t let that man around my child through video I can feel his evil energy. Yuck 🤢
I thought it was very strange that the father said that there are some things that only a man can teach a child, sounds like the paedophile rumours, might not just be rumours...
Normal people don’t get accused of being a pedo, normal people don’t argue with their kids regularly and normal people don’t raise their kids from 8 to overdose. Plaintiff needs to do exactly what she is doing and keep her daughter far away from those people. They are not going to add anything to her life
The judge should have ordered that all of the son's belongings be returned in hole even everything that was given away to family this guy had no right
He sounds chauvinist
D: "A woman can't do that! Only a man can do that!"
JM: "Why??" 🙂🙂🙂
When the judge puts on that little smirk, you know she's getting revved up. 🤣😳
Maybe if dad got along with his son he wouldn’t have to steal from his granddaughter so he can “get to know” his son after he’s gone. How pathetic.Why would a son call his father a pedophile? There’s more to this story. If he ever sees granddaughter it should only be with supervision.
This case is so simple it should have never even came to the courtroom! It's as simple as did he have a will or not if he didn't have a will his possessions go to his next-of-kin which is his child not his father. The guy's dad had no right to start taking things and giving them away
I knew she was lying about the heart condition I knew it was drugs
Didn't even see part about pedophile accusations and I had that vibe. Makes my skin crawl.
I believe the son…
I had to rewind the intro 2 times to understand what's going on.🤣
Thanks for sharing 😊
He wanted the lap top to KNOW HIS SON because he WASN'T in his life then days I CAN TEACH HER WHO MY SON WAS...
no sir
Sound like "Daddy" was Molesting his so called Son. That's why he was self medicating. Smdh.
Imagine sitting up defending your man against and even going as far sad to say you bring ur niece around him. When his own son said he’s a pedophile. She’s a bad touch auntie. Too many women that know these men are predators and sitting up with him defending him. Whew couldn’t be me!!!
Older doesn’t make you wiser. Sadly, this world is full of ignorant , elderly people.
Everything should have gone to his child. This man is horrible.
She wants to keep a laptop and a phone for a bit daughter who’s three years old that by the time she knows how to use, it would be so obsolete she won’t be able to turn it on.
This woman lack common sense. She’s not entitled to anything since they’re not married!
This was explained. She is the executrix or something like that of the estate. There daughter is entitled to all his belongings. The defendant had no right to the deceased stuff. Next of kin is his daughter. I honestly dont think they realised that.
Omg really over a laptop.
My kids always said their dad and I were not Normal. I just looked at her and said so that makes youuuuuuu???? Accept it and live your best life!!💜 Arguing with your child everyday is considered "normal "?
Her little words have all the power and authority
This case was just messy…..the father was being greedy feeling entitled to items that ain’t his. Why does he need a computer to feel closer to his son was just a stupid argument…..
"It is what it is", "at the end of the day" and "basically" need to be taken out of the dictionary.
When it comes relationships family and so called friends need to stay out of it and the defendant should have not touched anything that stuff belongs to the daughter the father and girlfriend crossed way too many boundaries.the plaintiff should have gotten married ,wife has more rights than girlfriends.
U didn’t finish this lol
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 AMEN and Hallelujah to that. I keep telling these women that when men die, BABY MAMA means nothing. Unless he had you on an insurance policy, mentioned you in his will, or gave you POA, you can forget it. That is what y'all get for being non-legal wives.
Am I the only one that has an inkling that the father did something to the son? Why would he be so adamant about accusing him? Also a lot of people who have been abused as children go to drugs as adults to cope.
I haven't even watched it yet but as far as I know items go to the children of the deceased dad, they going to have to go to probate Court🙄
That's where she should have went
Not unless there is land or property like a house or car to take to probate court, without a will, no one wins.
No need for probate court in this case
Dear defendant Lady - it is NOT normal to constantly argue with your kids - or anyone. :( I've been married 17 years and had 2 arguments with my hubbs in all that time. Adults find ways to communicate and work around things.
Inheritance goes down to kids first, parents then siblings. Assuming no will. Defendant has zero claim as the plaintiff's daughter inherits the estate.
Plaintiff is the administrator of the estate. Since she didn't authorize the removal of the laptop and even repeatedly requested it back.
Defendant just wanted a free laptop. (Oh it's a macbook pro, yeah, defendant just wanted a free mac)
The defendant's insistence to gatekeeper his son's memory. Every memory is on the phone & laptop, and he refuses to hand if over to gatekeep the memory. The kid is gonna grow up without any connection to her father.
It’s actually the spouse then children. But since they weren’t married, it’s goes kids next.
@@RileyCullen1 Depends. Some states require the spouse to split it with the children.
But he had left her. She was the ex girlfriend. They must have divided their property when he moved out. He had moved in with a new girlfriend. Why did she not say anything about the laptop then? How long was she willing to be without it before she had a claim on it? He could have lived for years and years until the daughter was grown up. If it really was about the sentimental value why did she not get a hard drive and copy everything before he left? Why was it only these items she was interested in? I feel she wanted them for the monetary value.
The defendants wife is all over the place with her story! 😮
If the son accused the dad of being a pediment guessing the dad abused the son or the son witnessed something and it’s probably why he suffered from depression. Men rarely bring abuse up and the son did.
I don’t trust litigants who rent a motel room to appear on court.
I kind of feel like they both cared about the laptop for monetary sake not for anything sentimental
She's left to raise a child alone, she's going to need all assets that she is entitled to to care for the child.
The mom is only protecting her daughter & watching out for her daughters best interest. Rumors like that are spread, if their true or not, a mom needs to do everything in her control to protect her children. Any half way decent grandparent would understand that, rather the rumor was true or not. It’s not about the mother or the grandfather, it’s about the well interest in the child, ALWAYS.
ALSO if he “raised” his son from the age for 8- adulthood (which is weird bc my dad raised me from birth to adult hood, I raid my children from birth to adulthood, my husband raises our children from birth to adulthood & if he expects the mother to bring the child to him to get to know her own father, then why did he say he needed/wanted to keep the items so he could “get to know” his son?! Like that’s so dumb.
I don’t like how he gets a copy of the contents on the computer!
why do ppl not take these accusations about pedophilia seriously? Good for that mom for protecting her baby and not letting her go over there.