MD3 by Method Archery: BROADHEAD TEST (One of the Best Scores of 2022)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- DISCOUNT CODE: LUSK = Free Shipping on any order
This is a test of the 125 gr, 3 blade MD3 Broadhead, by Method Archery.
For sharpening, pls watch this: • 344 sharpener by Stay ...
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the MD3 posted in parentheses as well.
Total MD3 125gr Score: 88.87 = 9 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 16 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16. The MD3 got 16 pts (it also received 1 bonus pt for excellent flight).
2. Cut Size (20%, 14.25 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.875"/2.5" x 7 = 5.25 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.875"/2.5" x 7 = 5.25 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.25"/2 x 6 = 3.75 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 18.65 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 350 grs=8.5/10=7.65 pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +0 grs=10/10=9 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (10/10=2 pts) Use the Stay Sharp Guide Diamond Plate or "344".
4. Penetration (20%, 16.97 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (7.25" = 7.25 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score (60 layers=7.72 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 20 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (5 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (10/10 = 3 pts)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: Heads will be rewarded bonus points for special, intangible features such as: rotation, no O rings/clips for mechs, extra thick, hole size, other unique designs, etc.
MD3 Bonus: +1 excellent flight
+1 extra triangular holes
+1 extra durability
Total Score: 88.87 = 9 Golden Arrows
Price = $23/head (Use Discount Code: LUSK for free shipping)
Grading Scale:
90-100 10 Golden Arrows
85-90 9
80-85 8
70-80 7
60-70 6
Special Notes:
Please check out my sponsor, Stay Sharp Guide. staysharpguide... or @Innovative Outdoorsman They make excellent broadhead sharpeners. The support I receive from them has helped me improve my channel
I also have some Broadhead Discount Codes I can share:
SEVR: LUSKFIVE saves you $5 on any order & can be used on top of any online sales.
Vector Custom Shop: LUSK gives Free Shipping
AFFLICTOR: LUSK10 saves 10%
Tooth of the Arrow: LUSK19 saves 15%
DEAD X BOWHUNTING Big Game Broadheads: LUSKFIVE saves $5 per pack.
Crimson Talon: LUSK15 saves 15%. - Спорт
Impressive head. It is nice to see a broadhead with a decent cutting diameter that still flies well. Thank you for the unbiased testing.
Yep.
I started hunting with a fixed blade head and then got sucked into the mechanical era had some issues with durability and reliability now I'm going back to a fixed blade with these heads. Awesome!!
:)
Wow! Impressive!! Super cool John to see these heads that aren't that popular but should be. 😊
I think these will become more popular. They haven’t even hit the market yet. But I do like finding & testing heads like that.
Wow that’s impressive. This head looks like it’s right up my alley
It is impressive
Nice solid broadhead , my type of broadhead you will have no problem shooting a water buffalo with this head , great review mate as always 👍👍🏹🏹
Thanks John
I’m not any sort of fan of a 3 blade whether 1 piece or not.
But nobody in the world can dispute the damage and toughness of this head.
I was mostly impressed with the heads hardness and resistance to chatter. Pretty amazing.
Love to see some animals taken with it because @ 1.25 inch cut, that’s bigger than normal and it tracked dead on with field tip @ 30 yards.
I’d like to see further yardages with its accuracy and its blood letting. I believe this head blades won’t flex and the hole sizes will be huge.
It’s a exciting head and a great test John. Thanks again for uncovering a little known beauty.
Thanks Mike. I've been shooting at 30 yards for a couple reasons. First, I can do it in my backyard :) Otherwise, I have to drive 20 minutes to the range and it costs $20 to shoot there. Second, I've found that if I'm getting a 1-2" group with my field points at 30 yds, then they're going to group fairly well at longer distances as well. I used to test every head at 80...then I switched to 70, then last year I switched to 40...now 30 :) With a well tuned bow and properly set up arrow and decent form, it seems pretty much every head flies fairly well out to distance.
Impressive results. Ordered some! Thanks for the free shipping code. Will give these a try and see if they will replace the Exodus and Tooth of the Arrow heads in my quiver this fall.
Nice. Those are all great choices!
I just sharpened one of mine on the stay sharp 344. It took about 30 minutes on 240 grit to get the angle right. I went all the way to 2500 grit then buffing compound.
Nice. It does take some work...but it's kind of fun doing it too.
Man what a awesome head!! Thank you for getting free shipping on orders that's pretty cool. Might make a order myself
Thanks Warren.
Awesome review... Looks to me, they fly exactly field point accuracy.
Yeah, they fly great
May have to pick some up. Thank you John
Thank you
S7 is not generally known as a cutlery steel. Back in the late last century I talked a custom knife maker into building a knife for me out of it, despite his protestations. It took time but he did, and got a scary sharp edge on it. I nicked myself with that knife about every time I fooled with it. At 59 RC these 'heads should stay sharp for a long, long time.
Yep. It's not a cutlery steel as much as it is a tool steel. But in a broadhead application, impact resistance is much more important than it is in cutlery. And S7 is amazing at impact resistance.
Great looking broadhead, I’d like to see a test on the Vector VBS broadhead, maybe they will send you some to test.
Yeah, that’s coming as soon as they get them finalized and send me some.
Nice test John! Thanks. I hope when they begin delivering they will have the heads significantly sharper than the one you tested. I understand their price point given the quality of the steel but would really expect them to be sharper at that price point given the heads they will be competing against
Well, that is a challenge with 60 degree bevels like that.
Then they should not advertise “Hair Popping Sharp”. Not hard to get a 3 blade VPA to easily shave hair.
😒
Very nice John!!! Excellent durability!!!! Thanks John will need to order and try this on Elk!!!!! Also, congratulations on the buck you shot with it!!! God bless
Thanks Michael.
I definitely trust you I already bought 2 pack as soon as I watched this review Thank you for the code I used it got free shipping
Very good. Let me know what you think.
Wow! What an impressive head! My go to head has been the QAD Exodus but I may have to give this one a shot as well!
Yeah, it is a really solid choice.
I'm very impressed with this broadhead! The durability is incredible! The price is exceptional considering the quality and durability. I really can't find any fault with this one.
Agreed. Thanks for the comment.
Love the videos! Awesome head.
Thank you
After disappointment with the durability and customer service of TotA 175g heads last season, this is exactly what I've been looking for. A monolithic 3 blade with a large diameter cut, and available in weights beyond 100 grains. I was going to give annihilatilors a try, but I like the look of these a lot more. Wish they made a 150, but 125 will do.
Yeah, that S7 is no joke.
Nice head, good build great steel but they lost me at three blade. They just don't get sharp enough for my liking but that's just a personal preference. Great video and props to vector for building a high quality head.
Yeah, I hear ya. But if you use that 344 sharpener, you can get them really sharp.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures very true. Just seems like grinding a new bevel in that hard of a steel would be very time consuming. Very well could be worth it in the end. They bugger is tough and appears to hold one one hell of an edge even after impact. If like to see the edge tested on those after each media impact. Barring the cinder block of course. Thanks for the great videos. I enjoy watching you hammer the broadheads.
Been trying to purchase for awhile. Hoping they are available soon as I’d like to test and dial in before the season starts.
They released a whole new batch in May of this year, 2023.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures did they sell out already?
@@avidwaterfowler7522 their website does not seem to have any broadhead information posted.
Looks so much like the exodus but the solid steel build makes this so interesting. The exodus killed deer well too so the shape is great.
Yep.
Its an ss3 in different steel , as usual pretty much blunt out of the box. These heads don't sharpen up to shaving because of the angle of the bevel.
Well, these have a cut of 1 1/4” and the SS3 is 1 1/8”. So different cut size and different steel type. But both are one piece 3 blade heads :)
As a former die maker i can testify that S7 is a very durable and edge retaining steel.Wonder what the RC hardness is on this head?
Saw your follow up.
very very impressive but im very happy with my annihilator xl 125s and the damage it did on a deer i shot last year. Not to take away from these i like them alot!
Those are great heads. I do like the wider cut on these, but those can certainly get the job done.
I would love to see a review of the magnus stinger and black hornet with your updated testing!
Yeah, I've thought about re doing that. I bought those myself in the past and at this point, my broadhead budget is depleted.
Ordered them thanks for the LUSK code 😁👍🏻🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌
Nice. Good luck.
Ive asked a couple times where to send new heads to...
So sorry. I do my best to stay up to date on all the comments & questions. My address is 6159 Nottingham Dr, Johnston IA 50131 Thank you
The tip did curl, you can see it when you're spinning it
Ever so slightly...I could sharpen that off in about 15 seconds. There haven't been many, if any, heads that have handled the durability tests better.
That was better than the last one I watched here ... 💪😎🏹🦌
Well I'm glad to hear that.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures l love your videos ... 😉👍👍👍👍
Other than not being very sharp from manufacturer, these seem to be great. Almost indestructible.
Next time I'm looking for a great head, I probably won't be thinking of my girlfriend.
:)
Pretty much identical results with the annhiolator my favorite broadhead
Yes...except it has a much larger cut size.
real nice, my kinda head there. i can only think of one improvement they could make to it, if they moved the blades back, to be blade over shaft, like a qad exodus or deepower solid, i dont think a better head could be designed.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Reminds me of that Deepower head you reviewed.
There are some similarities. Different lengths and steels.
Happen to know anyone “holding” some of these? Would love to try these in the last few weeks of the season
They are great heads. Hope they make a comeback.
This head is bad ass 😁🦌🦌Your videos are fabulous 👌, turned my buddy onto your videos he was amazed at your content and depth
Thank you!
WOW!! Nice head. Might have to make a purchase. Ty John. Hey, what’s the chances you could do a video with the stay sharp system on a head like this. I know you have done them before, but it’s been awhile. This head is awesome, but comparatively speaking it’s a bit less sharp out of the box. Seems like you could show the advantages of sharpening a head like this. 🤷♂️ Anyways, Ty for the discount. 👊🏻🙏🏻
Thanks Donald. I thought about doing it, but since I've already done it with a few others, I figured I'd just post one of the vids of Stay Sharp using them on another 3 blade...and I did that in the Video Description. It would work just the same, but would take a bit more time due to the steel hardness.
Good review as always. It’s a good head but seems to be a clone of some others. Don’t care for the shininess of it. Someone in the market for a new head that hasn’t settled on one or the other, will benefit giving this one a try.
Well, I don’t know of many other solid 3 blade heads with a cutting diameter of 1.25” and a length of .85”-and being made of S7 Tool Steel. But there are other solid 3 blade heads if you mean that.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures - that’s exactly what I mean. You give us a broadhead to look at and watch you test. We give our opinions as consumers and hunters.
Amazing head
Right?
Hmmm… you peaked my curiosity.
So Exodus or md3?
They’re both so good! Replaceable blades have their advantages and once piece heads have theirs.
First! haha looks like a good option
Thank you :)
The only fault I see here is it’s initial sharpness. I knew it would maintain its edge bc of the blade material and thickness, but if you used the stay sharp on this thing and got it to around 200g (or less)….. whew this would take the crown imo. As always, great video 🐐
Yep.
Wow
I will be buying this hopefully they have it in 150 gr
I don't know if they do at this point, but hopefully they will in the future.
Cool head it's amazing how much the quality of broadleaf keeps improving. Did you try sharpening on stay sharp guide? It sure helped get my annihilators much sharper.
I didn't do that yet, but I'm sure it would work just the same. I've done it on several other 3 blade solid heads, including the Cutthroat, which uses 41L40 steel...not as hard to sharpen as S7, but still pretty challenging.
Would you rather go with these or tooth of the arrow?
They’re both great. Different budget ranges. I like the square holes of the TOTA but the durability of these.
Very nice head .
Yep
Ty 🏆
:)
Hi John. I was very interested in trying some method Broadheads but I just went to the website and found out that they’re “closed for the season” due to an inability to keep up with customer demand
I’m sure they make a quality product but I would be afraid to deal with any manufacture that cannot provide customer support if it should be needed. I wasn’t sure if you were aware of this or if your followers were aware.
Yeah, they were bought out and I don't know what will happen in the future.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I hope they’ll continue on with the design. Do you know who bought them or can’t you divulge that info?
My bad didn't hear 59 RC..
:)
I would compare them with slick trick ss3 broad head, looks like the accuracy is a little better with slick trick, also cheaper price, and has same cutting diameter. ALSO Can sharpen both easy due to similar designs. Do you think in the long run this broad head would be better after multiple kills and resharpening, vs the ss3 due to the metal it is made out of? OR would both have a long life span in the quiver when resharpening?
Thanks for your review.
Well, this has a cutting diameter of 1 1/4" and the SS3 is 1 1/8. That's a significant difference. And the steel quality is night and day and will deform much less readily. As for flight, I was really surprised by how well these flew. I shot them out past 60 yds the other day and they were dead on with my field points.
Looks very similar to the SS3 and the Ozcut Elite, but better quality steel. I may need to try these out. I would try the SS3 but they don't come in 125 grain, and the Ozcuts seem to be too soft and not hold an edge.
Is there any advantage to this head over the Tooth of the Arrow 1" solid other than being able to sharpen on a sharp stone?
Yeah, but this is 1.25" cutting diameter and those others are 1 1/8". And this is a bit shorter...and as you said, it's S7 tool steel vs much inferior steel. Any advantage over the TOTA is the steel--so edge retention & durability--and sharpening, as you said.
i think, with that and a FAD arrow, you dont need to invest anymore, last forever haha
:)
After seeing the difference in sharpness with the 344 and the toughness of the s7 steel that’s the route I would go. It would still hold an edge well at 44*.
Yep...but might be fairly difficult to do that with that steel. Could be done though.
when you shot them it sounded like there was a slight whistle from the broadhead, is that just my ears playing a trick on me or do they make some noise flying down range? Those look like some wicked heads either way!
That sound was because I'm standing inside my house when I shoot, and the camera mic is flush with the bow, so it maximizes the initial sounds. And my helical Blazers make a lot of noise, but these heads are relatively quiet, due to them not being vented.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures ok. Thank you for clarifying!!
Where can I buy these broadheads?
At www.contact-archery.com. Use my Discount Code: LUSK10 to save 10%.
What’s you opinion on 2 Blade Vs 3 Blade heads ? You say 2 or 3 in “You Opinion?”
I prefer multi blade, unless I’m hunting Cape Buffalo.
Did they quit making these?cant find them
Yeah, the company was sold. Not sure what the status of it is now.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Oh thanks for the quick response sir.. well thats a bummer..looked like a good head
It's unfortunate they can't be sharpened as sharp as a exodus. Other than that it looks like a great head..
Yeah, there are advantages to both models.
i get my 3 blade one piece solid heads shaving sharp in about 2 minutes on sandpaper, a file, or a flat stone. i have heard several people say they cant get them real sharp, but it has never been the slightest problem for me. i practice with the same heads i hunt with. a few strokes and im shaving arm hairs. the easy re-sharping of this style head is a big selling point to me.
Nice three blade. I like that it is a good tool steel. Not a fan of how short it is though and how steep the blade angles are. I like the longer three blades with a more shallow blade angle for better penetration, but it looks like this head will do the job just fine. Is it made in the U.S.A.? If not, I am going to have to label it complete garbage.
Yeah, US made. But in all my testing, the shorter heads far outpenetrate the longer heads...at least in every medium I've ever tested them in. In some ways, it's counter intuitive, but that's what's happened--check out the penetration of these, Tooth of the Arrow, Exodus, SS1, etc. Then compare them to heads like Montec, or the longer VPAs. That 3:1 ratio thing is misapplied in a cutting application. The extra friction of the longer blades impedes penetration as well as flight.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures or is it that the steeper blade angles does not allow the ballistic gel to grab the shaft as quick a shallower angled blade would? The only test media that really matters is live animals with hides, bones, and slippery organs with blood.
Why haven't you tested the broadsheets I sent you over a year ago when you were asking for samples? It's your website and you decide the content. Just wondering.
Thanks Michael. I’ve tested every head I’ve received. And all the vids are done…but they are scheduled to drop 2/week till mid October. What was the head you sent again?
Didn't hear the price?
I always list it with the scores in the video description.
Bad ass. One piece exodus..🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yep
What can this broadhead do better than a qad exodus can do for $20 less?
Well for one, no replaceable blades to worry about.
@@jeffcopenhaver2217 but exodus broadheads can survive concrete
@@jackbuendgen389 the blades can break on the exodus at the front tip where they go under the ferrule point. several vids i have seen on yt showing that.
@@jackbuendgen389 I know Exodus are woodpecker lips tough, but if I have the option between replaceable blades vs fixed I’m taking the fixed seven days a week and twice on Sunday. One less thing to worry about.
They're both great heads. The difference is largely the difference between replaceable blades and solid construction. Each have their advantage. These will be more durable, overall, due to the geometry and steel. And they're super easy to sharpen by being 60 degrees like this. But the Exodus are nice in that you can just replace the blades if you want to....and they're really sharp.
very nice head. Blade angle is a bit steep for my taste but super high quality for sure
Yeah…but they did penetrate well, even with that steep angle.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thats for sure, You can't argue with how well they did.
Would this work for a crossbow?
Most likely they would, buy some and try them good luck and happy hunting 🏹🏹
Probably would plane a lot do to the blade angle
Yep. They fly great.
Lol looks like a Deepower copy.
Well, there are some similarities. But different dimensions and steels