Abbree 42.5 Inch Baofeng Antenna Reviewed HAM Radio - TheSmokinApe
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- Abbree Antenna Reviewed - TheSmokinApe
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It is not a “Loading” coil, that’s cb lingo and that term does not belong in the Ham lexicon. It is a matching network, or more specifically an impedance matching network. In all likelihood it is probably not a true inductor/capacitor conjugate matching network, but rather a low wattage 50 to 300 ohm resistor with a leaky strap of metal tied to one side. This is done in order to broadband the ‘antenna’ for vswr purposes and somewhat radiate with a hunk of metal off one side. This is a popular technique for emergency broadband HF antennas such as folded dipoles. The folded end of the non-resonant dipole is terminated in a resistor to keep the impedance appearing low across the 1.8-30 MHz spectrum. This makes for a quiet HF receive antenna and gives an inefficient and skewed radiation pattern when transmitting (all the while maintaining a ‘broadband’ characteristic.) Nothing more than a gimmick antenna to appeal to the unwashed masses.
Thanks for that info! 10-4 👍
Fair comment, thanks DX Commander. When I wrote it I was not hearing it as you or others might have read or interpreted it. I was simply coming from the angle that it is a term used by cb’ers to physically shorten an antenna with an inductor (or to ‘Load’ the antenna) by electrically making up for its lack of length. Here we have the reverse, an antenna that is far beyond the length needed to resonate it at a quarter wavelength. There is nothing to ‘load’ for. There is however, plenty to ‘unload’ or remove as it is overly long at its lowest intended frequency. My apologies if it came out sounding abrasive,
I quite fancied the word “lexicon,” I didn’t want to sound redundant and reuse the word “lingo.” I thought the Op took it in fun and gave him a thumbs up. Sorry to all that took offence, I was trying to keep amateur radio at a technically higher spoken level than at the CB appliance operator level. I didn’t want to see Ham terminology devolving into simplistic CB lingo (lexicon?)
DX Commander, you’ve come in tree top tall and wall to wall. Keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down, we’ll catch you again on the flip-flop, ‘3’s, we gone now, bye-bye.... ;)
That is true.
Brian, what you say is true and I have no disagreement in that, but it doesn’t deselect the fact that these antennas are mismatched and inefficient. If people want to buy them for their visual or psychological appeal, so be it. But it certainly isn’t a dual band antenna who’s claim is to work in the HAM bands.
tami stone fair enough Tami, I bow to your experience on this one.
I’m awaiting delivery and will see how it functions 👍
These types of “tactical” antenna do work really well. It’s why the soldiers have been using a similar style antenna for a while.
Yeah, I was surprised at how well it worked, thanks for the comment 👍
It might be useful to research "similar style antennas" in use for military field radios. In short: the AT-892/PRL-24 3-ft semi-rigid steel tape "bush-whip" antenna was one of two deployed as part of the AN/PRC-10, PRC-25, and PRC-77 (Vietnam vintage and perhaps later radios) VHF 30-76 MHz field man-pack radios. The accompanying AT-271A/PRC 10-ft antenna improved range but also gave better visibility of radio operator location to the 'bad guys'. The AT-892 was a compromise antenna and to characterize it as working really well in their military application is inaccurate. My military experience was communications equipment repair. I'll admit to not having had the opportunity to sweep the AT-892 and therefore cannot attest to its VSWR across the range of 30-76MHz. In all likelihood VSWR was abyssmal. But the final stage of the radios were designed the horrible mismatch of the antennas. It's noteworthy that the length of the AT-892 is a 1/4-wavelength at 77MHz.
A reference with which to start:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN%2FPRC-77_Portable_Transceiver
@@jimpiper5297 ...what about the Comrod antennas? Rami Antennas?
Appreciate this review. I just ordered one. I like to carry my Baufeng when I'm out hiking. Also,,, you just got another subscriber.
Thanks for the sub! I picked up a shorter Abbree and will be testing on a video soon 👍
You prnounce it "AAAAAABBBBBBBBRRREEEEEEEE" and you yell it.
Lol, I should go back and re-edit the video 👍
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm a little.late to the party, but thanx for the review and thanx to the commenters clearing up some of the misinformation I just ordered two of the "made by Abbree" 42.5" ones. Very green and very new to Ham but I am fine ding it crazy interesting and fun! Thanx again guys!
Glad you liked it 👍
Good review. I still want one to test. I think it would work well as a bigger antenna for my motorcycle when I do setups in the park. Been in my amazon cart for a bit, just haven’t pulled the trigger.
It performs well but doesn’t seem practical for my uses, good luck with whatever you decide. 👍
Been looking at these, great video
Thanks man, glad you liked it 👍
Hello from Norfolk UK, I have been using this antenna on a uv5r with repeater GB3NB which for me is about 20miles away. Works great in the open countryside and in wooded areas. The connection to the radio is horrendous, so I have made a few changes which work well. I have since found out that this antenna is not supposed to go on top of the radio, there is a coaxial cable for it and it is supposed to be used on a backpack tied into the webbing. There is also a tactical telephone speaker external mic for use with this that I haven't got yet because it costs more then the radio and I think I've spent enough money on this already, but it works very well indeed.
Thanks for sharing that!
the reason it's marked like that at the base is: those are the markings at the base of a Harris/Thales AN/PRC 148 or -152. it's purely cosmetic for the airsofters
I purchased the 18.8 inch Abbree for my TYT UV8000E back in July of this year, and the improvement on transmitting and receiving went up considerably. As for SWRs, on 146.775 a local repeater here in Cheyenne, I had a SWR of 1.03, and on 449.300, another local repeater I had SWR of 1.08, and this was on my TYT at 10 watts, no problems. I was amazed. If I where to get the 42 inch version I would not actually attach it too the radio. I'd attach it too my back pack or bike and use a short piece of coax, between the antenna and HT. Yes I was very surprised at how good the antenna preformed.
Glad it worked out for you, thanks for the comment!
I have this antenna but in the 13 inch version for when I am out and about in the hills. It does give a bit more antenna to receive and transmit on. I like it and have them on all 4 of my Baofengs.
I’m thinking about trying a shorter version.
Same
KI7PCX With a baofeng uv-5r I was unable to reach the local repeater. With the 42.5 in abbree I now can. Thank you for your video. To each as to their need.
Glad to hear it worked out for you 👍
From each, according to their ability?
look up on ebay you can get them for 15$.
Hey Paul, have you noticed a difference when you installed your new antenna?
Same here Paul, with this I can get my local repeater 20+ miles away day and night.
I've got the 33.5" version and it outperforms the Nagoya NA-771R on my cheap little BF-F8HP on both bands.
Yeah, I have been pretty happy with the Abbree's! Thanks for the comment!
The cut off on the JT rig is the feedback into the power supply .
Yuesu FT817 has a similar problem, you just need to keep the aerial away from the power supply unit and ferrite rings on the power cable.
Makes sense, that would explain why it didn’t happen with the dummy load. That said I used a battery for power.
If you expand the spectrum display on the SDR radio to 1 or 2 Db steps, you can measure the gain difference between different antennas by keying up different repeaters. Adjust the gain or pad it to stay in the upper third of the display. Also, would make a good portable base antenna mounted on a pole with 20 or so feet of good coax.
That’s a great tip, thanks 👍
Abbree makes a 48" version now. Attached to a kayak, you dont have to paddle anymore when the wind blows.
We use a very similar antenna with the Harris 152 Radio's in Defence. Obviously the Harris radios are designed to take these long flexible antenna's and they are great if you require that little bit extra range over the standard antenna supplied. That said if we can't reach our contact we always end up throwing a dipole and connecting that to the 152. I have 5 Baofeng UV-5R's and plan to carry two with these antenna's as well as the standard antenna when going on long treks. The fact they fold up and easy to store in a pack make them very convenient. I'm hoping to gain just a little extra distance should the trekking group be separated by any chance.
They do perform well, just too big for me. I did end up getting a smaller one to try out 👍
Reminds me of the antennas for a PRC-77, I'd agree, that is a lot of torque on an H/T. I always figured that having a good roll up j-pole for those times when you need more antenna is a good option. Good review as always brother!
Thanks man. I’m just not sold on this antenna, I’m surprised they are as popular as they are.
@@TheSmokinApe It's a novelty, check it out, I'm back in 'nam in the damn_Li valley!
Just ordered mine, going to take it camping with me this weekend
👍 nice, let us know how it turns out
How did it work for you and could you give a short description of location of camp site? (hill/valley/etc).
It worked well! I’d say it doesn’t wear out very well over time but I’m actually taking the 42 inch antenna with me for a second camping trip this weekend, it survived one season so for the money spent I’d say go ahead and pull the trigger. It doesn’t break or anything, just gets a little bent over time, idk if you had the same experience @TheSmokinApe but that was my experience
@@dutchman55 thank you for this info. Mine should be in today or tomorow. I cant wait to out it to use.
Great review!
Thanks man! 👍
Great review, thanks
Thanks for watching!
It's been great for me on the trails
Nice 👍
I have the 18.5 inch models, one for a Baofeng and one for a Yaesu VX8. They work fine.
I’ve thought about picking up a shorter version. Thanks for the comment 👍
great stuff dude gotta get back into it after we move
Thanks UC! 👍
Thank you for the video.
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I wish you'd do a range test of these antennas from an elevated position. As for the purpose, it seems great as an emergency antenna for a bugout bag. Like a space blanket. Not something you'd wear to the Emmy's, but it's nice to have when needed.
My personal choice would be a J-Pole, but it seems tailor made for my TidRadio H6/Baofeng UV-H7, and when I put it on my Baofeng UV-5R, I don't have a spacing issue at all.
Finally, you said you feared your 5R might be damaged by the Abbree's fit. I wish you'd test that hypothesis because I don't think you could damage it. The male connector is in the 5R pretty good. I've tried to damage mine by whipping mine around, but in all fairness the Abbree fits flush in my 5R+. I've ordered an 8W 5R and will try that with the Abbree when it arrives. If be surprised if anything breaks. If stranded in a snowbank, I'd like to have an Abbree 42-inch in my car. Or a magnetic antenna on my car. Either way it might well come in handy. Cheers!
I had the ABBREE 33cm for Airsoft purposes in this last 2 years. Very clear and longer range !
The do perform well 👍
Great video!
Thanks 👍
Great video. Please post your results table. TU.
Nice review. I was thinking about trying one of these and you kinda confirmed my fears. It's got a sort of cool factor but I'm sticking with my signal stick. Little pun intended. Lol. Thank you
I wanted to love it... glad you liked the video 👍
Chipper2733
I use an Abree on a UV5RE and by telephone, I arranged to try a QSO to a friend on his main station.
I was to be outside on my back yard lawn. He was to be on his 2m station rig.
What I expected, happened.
I could hear HIM but not in reverse. However a third station joined in and said to # 2 that he could read me and he was farther away still!
I never spoke to #3 but heard him say that he could hear me. Not exactly a 2 way QSO but a
definite link in both directions.
If you go on Google Maps you'll see how far apart we are.
Greater Manchester UK.
Between two towns...Wigan, in the County of Greater Manchester and Stockport in the county of Cheshire.
Some haul for a Baofeng Hand Held on a full sized Abree.?
Gotta be 20 miles plus, across the city
That Abree works! Is it unwieldy...Oh Boy, is it ever? BUT IT WORKS!
I tried this antenna on an MT-AIO (APRS Tracker) with 12 Watts output, and it is amazing! Performs almost as well as the Smiley 5/8th wave "Search and Rescue" telescoping antenna, with much less chance of putting my eye out. I plan to carry one in my pack as a long-range back-up antenna. Of course, its totally worthless when folded.
Sounds like a good use case 👍
@@TheSmokinApe I was a little concerned about the alleged 8 Watts limitation too...As it turns out, not everything CHICOM's say is completely accurate.
Lol 😂
Thanks for the review! Did you a SWR reading with the Baofang and Signal Stick?
Glad you liked it, the only readings I did were shown in the video 👍
I’ll take it!🤟🏽
Haha, thanks for watching 👍
I've ran one for about a year on a ht that sits in my living room (or whatever room I'm in at the time) while the kids are on on small whip antennas around town. Radio to radio we seen almost 40% increase over quality whip to whip. Now we are reliable at about 2 miles in a havey residential area from ground level.
Antenna is good for camping, again where the radio is NOT being moved around. Antenna is to big for moving.
We dont have 2 antennas but I imagine for 2 fixed position HTC's with these antennas you would would pretty good reports for 4 watts.
Agreed, good for a stationary station 👍
Good thing I watched this video. I almost that same antenna
Some people love it, it just doesn’t seem practical to me... thanks for watching 👍
Can you do a few more transmits with the 25 W radio and then take apart the loading coil area and check the capacitors?
Nope, I no longer have the antenna. Sorry bro...
arnt max power and what its recommend for different anyways?
The juintiaaai mobile cut off because rf was getting into it. You DON'T have to have reflected power to have rf on it.
With regard to the differences in antenna power handling...I've found the "specs" provided by vendors on amazon, ebay, etc to be OFTEN wrong, and even self-contradictory on the same page. For example, an LED array spec'd in the vendor's "Description" as operating from 9V-32V and then in "Product Description" it shows 10V-60V on the same webpage! Same sort of problem as the 8W v. 20W...the specs are incompatible and can result in damage to the item if you use the wrong one.
When in doubt always go to the manufacturer's specs. I usually also search out and download the product's User Manual /Operator's Guide /etc just to be sure...either from the manufacturer's website or a general documentation provider website (preferably free ones).
The inconsistency drives me crazy! Thanks for the comment 👍
WRT to your concern of the stresses caused to the HT at the antenna base, would it be feasible to make some kind of coax piece as an extension to remove any possible strain?
I hope my question doesn't sound stupid but as a complete rookie concerning all thing HAM related, but my background in aviation and fixing/fabricating components that endure significant stresses I am curious if an extension as I mentioned would work or if it would cause other problems due to frequencies being "off" or some such technical issues I'm not familiar with.
As some say, I'm asking for a friend and, besides Inquiring minds wanna know.
TIA for any insight you can give me as, like I said I'm a total rookie and tend to over-think and investigate stuff before buying such things.
Thanks for your assistance.
You could do that for sure, I just didn’t want to bother with the hassle. If I was going to use a setup like that I would just use a rollup antenna. 👍
@@TheSmokinApe, again, being a Newb, I'm not familiar with the terminology so can you describe what you mean by a "roll up antenna?"
Thanks in advance.
It’s an antenna made of a flexible wire called ladder line. Google “roll up j-pole”
Thank you very much for the video, I love it!! "A little bit over kill??" "Say hello to my little friend!!!" LOL 😆
Haha, glad you liked it CTP
@@TheSmokinApe this should fit the anytone 868 reverse female sma, I looks like it in all the photos, what do you think?
@@CinematicTouchProductions I’d check but I don’t have this antenna any more
@@TheSmokinApe it does right after I asked you i found a video that had that antenna to my 868
Cool video! I had one of these antennas for about a week that I used on my FT-70 and FT-2. I found it to be a bit "directional." Is this something you had noticed?
I didn’t , seems like it’s a tape measure on a loading coil.
@@TheSmokinApe If i wasn't so cheap I would have cut it open and done a video on it. I too figured this was a tape measure and being a blade is what was causing the antenna I had to be directional. I was using the 28.3" one.
I was thinking about cutting it open but figured that it would be better to pass it along
@@TheSmokinApe Good decision. I am not exactly running short on antennas.
I also found it to be a bit directional too. I found that out by keying up one of the repeaters about 30 miles away. Depending where I face, I could hit it but not all the time. Plus it was like that listening to several of the weather channels as well.
I noticed swr meter goes up and watts go up. Lower swr and watts drop. I'm confused???? But counterpoise makes ultimate range. Easy and cheap
Your name made me chuckle because my mum used to call me "big ape" or "fuckin' ape" when I was in my teens cuz puberty made me hairy as shit
Lol 👍
Just ordered one, we'll test it and see how it goes..although i have no clue if it's an original one or a fake
Fingers crossed, they work really well.
How’d it work out?
@@lcm7541 Well shit happens..it isn't an original one and it doesn't work very well so there's 20$ wasted in garbage
@@Cr3dibleThreat awe damn sorry to hear! I bought one from Amazon so fingers crossed 🤞
Its one of the best antennas out there
Will that antenna work on the Beofeng GMRS V1?
@@tellitlikeitis1828 yes
What would be the effect of sending too much wattage into the antenna if it is only rated for 8w? Will it damage the antenna or the radio?
It could damage either. I’d expect high swr and damage to the radio first.
@@TheSmokinApe if it would just fry the antenna then no biggie, but it's not worth damaging the radio. Thanks for the review!
It would have been nice to see it compared with a more appropriate size for an HT. I notice it comes in a 13" size as well. I wonder how that actually works?
Good point. As mentioned I got this one to use as "mobile whip" for a mobile radio and after seeing it used on so many HTs I decided to do the video. Thanks for watching 👍
I can't speak for the 13 inch, but I have the 18.5 inch and it performs wonderfully. I can place it in my vehicle's door close handle area and it doesn't hit the roof which is good for me. I can also consistenly hit repeaters 70 miles away that I can't even hear with the stock antenna.
So could you use this with a relocation wire? Trying to figure out this stuff, want longer range communication capabilities to run in a plate carrier, which would include my ham license.
People to remote mount these, it's possible.
I know it's a cheapy radio, but my UV5R worked flawlessly for 3 years until I put an genuine Abbree 42 on it. Now radio is desensitized and deaf as a door nail, even with the antenna switched back out to a 771
I wonder if something was damaged electrically
I got the genuine abree. Not bad. But save your money and get a uniden Auto antenna for uhf with adapter. I get amazing range. Cheers
I wouldn't use this on a mobile rig but in home on the craddle I see this an a great option. THAT or tapping into an antenna thats mounted outside but at that point wouldn't you own a better transceiver?
Yeah, you’d want an antenna that had a higher wattage rating for a mobile 👍
Cool thanks.
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The radio cutting out could have been from the antenna being too close to the radio.
I bought one of the 18" Abbree antennas and had to return the first one due to SWR was almost 3:1. The replacement is around 1.6:1 which is perfectly fine and it works well. I check in to a "local" net once a week through a repeater 50 miles away on a mountain using the 18" Abbree and a 5 watt Wouxun hand held from inside my house and it does the job.
Sorry but your check with your sdr doesn't tell me much as it is just too close to give any meaningful information.
I think it was from being too close. The SDR video was to show the performance difference between antennas, which was pretty apparent. Thanks for watching and for the comment 👍
I tried to fir the 23" version on my Yaesu FT 60, and the base of the antenna is too thick. It interferes with the operation of the power switch.
That sucks, do you have a different radio you can use it in?
I found that out too with same radio and 28" Abbree antenna. A quick but not heavy duty fix is an sma male to sma female adapter (tons on eBay) to rise just above the thicker part of the on/off/volume knob. But still searching for one that seats flush like the ones I have as sma to bnc adapters, which maybe is also an option...
I got the 21 inch one, have used it quite a bit for a few months now. It doesn’t feel super well built, feels a little flimsy. Also the velcro strap fell off after a few weeks of use 😂😂 73 and subbed!
Thanks for the sub! I picked up a shorter version, hopefully I can get a video done on it at some point 👍
TheSmokinApe man I’ve been getting into homebrew antennas myself, some of your videos on the Yagi style kinda inspired me to give it a shot and it has been WAY better than anything Abbree is going to sell for 20$, I’ve had a ton of fun with it!
Wait, where do the gaskets go? I had read somewhere the gaskets weren't necessary.
You need to use them between the gap at the connecters if there is a gap 👍
I wonder if you can also use the gooseneck antenna efficiently WITHOUT the gooseneck. Is the gooseneck an integral part of the antenna?
As far as I know, you need both parts, thanks for watching!
@@TheSmokinApe How can I check if the setup works if I don't have another radio here to test?
used an 18.8-inch version on my UV5R 8W version and could reach out 10 miles. Buuuuut I wouldn't say it is the best, but you also shouldn't expect too much for a 10-20 dollar antenna. The funny thing was I had to tilt the antenna and the rig to get the better signal. If I used it vertically like I supposed to do, it wouldn't get a signal even on the hilltop. Now I have this 42-inch version of the antenna and will see how well it performs in the same condition I had with the 18.8-inch version.
What I have found over the years is that HT antennas are a mixed bag, lol. Thanks for watching KTA!
It might work fine for the Yaesu FT-817/818
That’s not a bad idea. I should have tested that. 👍
I am looking at a sdrplay unit for my apartment do you think this could be an option on my balcony
Sure. I would probably use a mag mount on a cookie sheet in a situation like that though.
I bought one of the Abbree 42 inch just because and my curiosity can get the best of me for a whole whopping 12 dollars but I noticed that in the folding twice position it works better then extended full out and my 18 inch Abbree whip antenna has the same results. I wanna do a distance test and see how far I can go with two baofeng UV-5R using each with the same antennas. Why, because why not!
lol, good luck with the testing!
the reason its popular with airsoft guys is cause this is a standard antenna we use on our 152 in the military but we almost always run the antenna through our plate carriers with a antenna relocator (takes away a lot of the awkwardness of it if its on your back and can be extended or folded with a quick reach over the shoulder.. also our radios are significantly heftier. didn't actually know there was a civilian following for these, kind of makes me sad that they are used for airsoft when that is a lot of overkill.
Yeah, these antennas have become very popular. Thanks for the comment / info 👍
Would like to see if u could do js8call on HF with this and how far it would reach vs an nvis setup
The radio and the antenna are not HF compatible, so skywave propagation like NVIS isn't possible. I do have a video on propagation that might be helpful 👍
I got one of these antennas at a pallet bin store the other day for $5. Like you, I think it's a bit of overkill for an HT because of the strain it can put on the antenna connector. Also mine has two bent places in it and while I have managed to kind of straighten one of them out, the other one isn't as easy. I think these antennas are made out of "tape measure" metal and that's what makes them bend so easily. I have seen where people have made "tape measure" antennas and I'm guessing these are made by putting 2 tape measures top to top, to give them a "round" look then covered with a long length of heatshrink tubing. Might be good for a little mobile radio like you have there for a go box. I have a similar radio and I was thinking of using it for a go box and this antenna might do good for that. Just have to wait and see. Also I didn't pay attention that the loading coil unscrewed from the antenna. Might come in handy for making a better antenna.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a tape measure. Thanks for the comment!
@@TheSmokinApe You're welcome.
There's a 42.5-inch Abbree antenna that's a tri-band and a 42.5-inch dual-band. I think they might be the same, but I'd love for you to do a test on it. Also, Signal.Stuff claims its Signal.Stick works very well with GMRS frequencies. That too would be worth knowing, as many antenna makers make specific antennas for GMRS. Anyway, it's a good emergency antenna.
Thanks for the info. I have one of the earlier models of Signal Stick, I should do a test of that. Thanks for watching 👍
How does the folded state of the antenna impact transmission and reception? Or must it always be unfolded for use?
It needs to be unfolded for use 👍
@@TheSmokinApe
Thank you for the quick reply!
I need advice, I hit the woods with some friends, what is the best model of Baofeng, and will this antenna give me reach over 3D terrain ? I rather spend the extra $$$ once . My buddies program their handset if that means anything
VHF and UHF are line of sight, any antenna will have trouble with "3D terrain." Check out the BTECH branded Baofengs, that's what I would buy if I was picking one up.
Just use your phone?
I use a coaxial cable and put in a back pack. Safe and no damage. Perfect Swr too. Try this method and please post results??? Any reply appreciated cheers from Australia . Subbed a while ago. Great video
Tua ks for the idea and for the sub Dragan 👍
@@TheSmokinApe actually I think I should be thanking you man. I watched basically all ur vids. Went jaycar electronics in Australia. Bought connections, coaxial cable. Watched more tutorials. I love it. It's a great hobby on the electronics field. Thank you 🙂👍👍👍. Oh and the counterpoise made a big difference that I can't explain. Clear and with standard Antenna on 4 watt baofeng uv5r iii I got around 2 plus kms line of sight. But that's in dense suburb. With trees( Gumtrees) here in Australia.
@@dragan3290 awesome man, glad you like that me channel!
I have the baofeng GM-15Pro, (1 pair), i was wonding if it would be practical to get the proper connectors and coax, put the abree antenna several feet above a house roof or maybe even high up in a tree top or on a pole? anyone?
You could do that 👍
I got that 42in abbree antenna . the real one. keep it in gobag .has great broadband. nice low SWR on VHF MURS and UHF GMRS. have tried it camping and great range but only use it at fixed location .walking with it would break it. I normally use the abbree 771 duel band . has great match GMRS,MURS ,2m ,70 cm. same length as Nagoya NA-771 . which is great as well. but swr is slight higher at GMRS and MURS. I have many abbree and Nagoya Ht antenna's . work great. most GMRS HT radios are SMA-F on radio. UV5-R is SMA-M . and the UV-5X(G) part 95 legal GMRS is a SMA-F on radio. only UV-5R that is different. adapters will break SMA in radio if not the right one that has support. wide base on HT . They have a CB one with BNC as well. got that one and worked better than the stock duck . but CB 27Mhz. not much range on a HT. camping found GMRS/MURS much better . no licence needed MURS/FRS . not all campers are HAMS .73's
Great info Robert, thanks 🙏
Can you do a review on ABBREE AR-F8?
I will see if I can get one of these. 👍
Not sure what others have said but it might come in handy in an emergency, stuff it in your fishing pack.
Not a bad idea 👍
People say the longer antennas can damage the antenna jack and therefore the radio. Can the strain actually damage the radio connector with regular use? If used for emergencies, it could come in handy, especially if search parties are looking for you and cell phones aren't working.
These obviously aren't for serious use, but I'd like to see if they can be used for emergency use. As for this video, it's only an unboxing video and not much good for anything else. 🔹🌞🌛✨
Yeah, be careful with the longer antennas. You do not want to stress that connector.
New to the radio world and know very little. Just wondering
what antenna I could add to Baofeng UV-5R MK5 8 watt to get better range than
the one that came in the box. (suburban environment)
I’d look at an authentic Nagoya 701 or 771, I have a link in the description for the stuff I use 👍
@@TheSmokinApe Thank you!
The stats look the same on the Nagoya NA-24J 16.2-Inch Ultra Whip so may go with that so it is bendable..
crawdaddy203 👍
I use an Abree on a UV5RE and by telephone, I arranged to try a QSO to a friend on his main station.
I was to be outside on my back yard lawn. He was to be on his 2m station rig.
What I expected, happened.
I could hear HIM but not in reverse. However a third station joined in and said to # 2 that he could read me and he was farther away still!
I never spoke to #3 but heard him say that he could hear me. Not exactly a 2 way QSO but a
definite link in both directions.
If you go on Google Maps you'll see how far apart we are.
Greater Manchester UK.
Between two towns...Wigan, in the County of Greater Manchester and Stockport in the county of Cheshire.
Some haul for a Baofeng Hand Held on a full sized Abree.?
Gotta be 20 miles plus, across the city
That Abree works! Is it unwieldy...Oh Boy, is it ever? BUT IT WORKS!
That they do, thanks for sharing 👍
How heavy is it about?
You should try it in a small field box
That was the plan, the whole 8w vs 20w was a deal breaker for me so I passed the antenna along. 👍
Can the antenna be used in its folded position?
No
this is an old video but its christmas so i cant help myself, they sell a glow in the dark signal stick, im ordering that one, cuz it'll match my glow in the dark 3d printed parts im going to make
Yeah, glow in the dark is cool...
антена 108 лучше или нет?
Can somebody answer my question please I really appreciate it. so my question is I've got a Abbree antenna set for 144/430 MHz so can i fold it in half and still transmit without ruining my dual band ham radio? and if I can do this ( or not)with the antenna what's it do to the frequency if anything or not. Thank you for someone's help appreciate it great show watch you all the time.👍 🇺🇸
No, do not transmit folded
@@TheSmokinApe thank you so much 👍
Hi,what is that device RS-40 ? Thanks in advance.
Yep, RS-40
42.5 inch works good on my UV-5R when on it's base and NOT walking around with it.
agree with you i also think it is too heavy for a HT.
Thanks for the comment 👍
I think the Juentai probably went off due to bad shielding. I've had Raspberry PI's reboot when keying my digital pack until I replaced the clamshell with an aluminium one.
You might want to open it up and paste in some foil shielding on the inside of the case, as it can help with the cheaper chinese radios. Even if it's never happened before, the higher output power from the larger antenna could be swamping the digital lines. I've had chinese junk that missed out pull-down/up resistors on lines making them very susceptible to RFI.
The PSU may also need a small choke.
Just a thought.
All great points, thanks for the comments 👍
@@TheSmokinApe No, thanks for taking the time to make the video.. I would never have guessed that an Abbree would ever match so well... and with a Baofeng too. What a lovely little pairing, and so cheap too. How cool is that! :D
What length have you found to work best?
I use a 19”, I think that’s what it is 👍
How much?
Ive been really considering this antenna for my mobile go box setup. I have an ic-2730a with both a built in mfj power supply (in the event I have access to AC power), and also a 12v 18ah battery as backup power. My own design layout, but much similar to the countless others online in Pelican (or Harbor Freight Apache) cases.
So would you think this antenna is a good match for that particular use, or would you get a signal stick? Ive got two signal sticks now that I use on our ft-4xr HTs. Nice antennas with great results from my experience
I’m not sure what the signal stick is rated for but the Abbree is only 8 watts, so keep that in mind 👍
Mine came in the yellow bag
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Does it work good on baofeng uv-82 Hp ?
Haven't tried but it sould.
does this fit on a quansheng tg-uv2 ? :)
Sorry, I don’t have that radio or this antenna any longer to test 😔
Hello this antenna is basically made for military use on the back of a plate carrier. Thank you for your time.
Thanks for the info 👍
And this shows why it is impractically long on the hand held directly but one attached with a relocation cable on the back of a soldier it does the job pretty well.
Thanks makes sense, for me it was too cumbersome 👍
Thats what I use mine for...
If anyone has any idea where I can find a ribbon antenna for a motorola xts 3000 or 5000 that would be awesome
Sorry, no idea 👍
@@TheSmokinApe thankyou for the reply I'll keep looking then
Pls make a range test
Sorry bro, I don’t have the antenna anymore
Does it work on uv-82 Hp. ??
I would assume so but haven’t tried 👍
Hey, newish operator here cx5aoz, whould this antena work when folded? Did you ever try that?
Don’t use them folded, they will reflect back into your radio and potentially damage it 👍
@@TheSmokinApe I agree that it has the potential to damage the radio since it's changing the characteristics of the antenna, but if it's still showing a low SWR when folded would there still be any significant risk of "reflected RF"? At that point are you concerned about the radiation pattern and having RF coming into the radio somewhere other than the SMA connector?
Josh Krull nah, just swr reflecting back unless I am missing something 👍
This antenna looks preposterous. Anyone got a link for a UK source for signal stick, assuming it is THE best replacement antenna for Baofeng?
Norm McCorkell I actually prefer the Nagoya 👍
@@TheSmokinApe 771?
Any of them... I have the 771 and it works great 👍
@@TheSmokinApe Just purchased a genuine 771 from a reputable ham radio dealer in UK, rather than fleabay. Keep up the great work bro.
Will this antenna work with the GT-3TP? Can anyone recommend a Throat Mike with earpiece etc for the GT-3TP? Thanks Guys ♡
Sorry, I don't have a way to check that.
@@TheSmokinApe No Problem. Thanks for your response. I appreciate that very much. Stay Safe ♡
Here’s a crazy comment. But first, I really like the one I have. I really worry sometimes that all that [ARM] weight could really crank in so much that it might break the antenna mounting shaft and nut off the radio. But I’ve found that it takes a little TLC to insure that doesn’t happen.
The length and diameter of the antenna base are such that a large hand or a strong twist could break the antenna mount completely off the radio! So just be careful.
I just make sure that doesn’t happen and no problem at all!!!
NOW THAT CRAZY COMMENT I MENTIONED:
I am a Vietnam Era Veteran. Have you ever seen that 6 foot antenna that is seen; so easily as well matter of fact, that the radioman is a sure target ????
That’s one reason I love mine folks! It serves as a reminder of being 18, on active duty in the ARMY. I mean just a kid! But I loved those radios and that antenna that is an icon today.
My favorite antenna eventually became any type an antenna that was mounted on the tail boom of a Hughes OH6A. Known better as the Loach. Always had the highest antenna anywhere I flew it. (STATESIDE ONLY THOUGH). Sorry to bore you all, my friends.
Thanks for the comment and for your service 👍
Awesome video / review! It seems this antenna is great if your a "wanna be", appear or act like you're tacticool or are a weekend warrior. The only two people using this are a 14 year old air-soft dude or a middle aged rotund "patriot" with a red baseball cap. Thanks again....well done. Great camera work, sound and editing! Great info!
Do y'all notice a difference in audio quality, depending on the configuration? Rubber washers, no washers? Folded, unfolded? I'd read they do better in different configurations, depending on vhf vs uhf. Thanks Kats!