WWE vs AEW Wrestling Tribalism & My Response to
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Responded to Tranquilo Club on Twitter from a month ago and my thoughts on AEW fans attack WWE fans and vise versa.
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Tranquilo is definitely the type of person who takes criticism as a personal insult rather than advice to help people improve.
No wonder TK listens to him.
@@homework9102 lmao this popped me. But this is unfortunate to hear.
@@homework9102Still fucking wild to me that happened. Imagine HHH reaching out to Wrestleops for booking advice.
@@NickK-v6ethat's how I can tell you guys don't watch his content. He never said Tony Khan reached out to him for advice. He saw a video Tranquiloclub put up and asked for his feedback like a business normally does and Tranquiloclub said what he didn't like and did like. Tranquiloclub even said he didn't reach out for advice. Idk where some of y'all are getting this from
He's as bad a DrainBamger and Wrestling Otaku. They want Tony's "WAR" on the evil Fed as much as Tony does.
Tranquilo is a tool. I quit following him a while ago.
Tranquillo Club had a full blown mental breakdown when Cody left AEW. He had it in his head that Cody was going to turn heel and lead the charge to take down WWE.
Since then, he's only become more and more sure of his opinions. The guy is totally radicalized. Just quite nasty overall. He's the perfect example of why people can't stand AEW fans.
Oh shit ! He started to become unhinged, once cody left. That's soooo true he fukin lost his mind.
It’s no wonder he was taking a mental break during the whole Brawl Out fiasco
@@USHARDYlmfao
Right now he's a total Copemonster. Lol everything he says about AEW makes it seem like the greatest thing in the history of the sport. 🤣
@@USHARDY Same thing happened when cm punk left lmao
Bro tran has always been like this he bans people form his live who criticize aew or calls out his bias
Pretty sure he banned me too.
he's that bad? no way!
@@WorldofGeekdom yes he’s that bad bro😂😂😂😂😂
At least Punk buried AEW on a podcast instead of their international flagship show.
Tranquilo Club is the textbook example of a fanboy, he is so sure about his own opinions that he tries to pass it off as objective fact. He'll be a white knight for AEW and never admit their flaws, but the second that AEW *does* fucks up, he either ignores it or does the whole "Well, WWE did this" fallacy. When the Brawl-out incident first happened he turned off replies in all his videos and went completely radio silent on Twitter.
He like the wrestling otaku
He's a Dunning-Kruger. Yes, he either formulates his uneducated opinion as facts and uses Whataboutism towards WWE. Typical grifter.
Nightquil club is one of the more pathetic aew fanboys.
He's not really an AEW fanboy. He will critique the product but he does tend to praise it more than others
F A C T S
@@kidz919 oh that's a lie.
@@WGPhil-uw5cs no it's not a lie. Do you watch his videos? He actually made a video a few months back about AEW's booking issues. Like I said, he does criticize the product but he praises it a lot more than others do which to some people make him seem like a fanboy which I totally can understand
@@kidz919 he's more anti wwe than aew. His Twitter behavior like "Therealone" is pure deranged sycophant behavior
I am 43, and i think that you can have your favorites but there should be no tribalism. People should be allowed to love what they want, but also be respectful of others loving what They want.
We should just love wrestling period!
I'm a big Matches guy, all I need is: The reason for the Match -> Have the Match -> Hopefully it's a sick Match. That's all I ever have and ever will want from Wrestling. That's why my absolute favourites are Bret Hart and Kurt Angle. Simple reasonings to have a Match, and then the Match itself blows the house down with either its physical nature, impactful storytelling, or fantastic choreography. Even then, I wouldn't ask people to cater to what I get out of Wrestling, because I know my biases. Not everyone enjoys the actual Matches as much as I do. The promotions should be trying to deliver on all aspects, not just the Matches.
That's why I get dissapointed with Wrestling Fans so much, you can like what you like without having to drag others down. And so many people fail to realise that what they get out of Wrestling is almost assuredly not going to be the same as what other people get out of Wrestling. People should appreciate hard work, good stories, mic skills, and in-ring ability when it appears, no matter what form.
Very well said.
I've noticed that a lot of AEW-exclusive hardcores see WWE mostly as a Political entity (thanks to Vince, and him being friends with a... certain... person), and even after Vince left, they still see it that way. They treat it as if it's an election.
Even with Vince gone, they still want to hate WWE just to hate WWE. When there is no need for this. Hell, I think if Tony would stop making a fool of himself HHH and TKO would even be willing to work with AEW.
Tran is the biggest mark on UA-cam
Tribalism is tough especially I felt like I was bullied out of the aew discord over tribalism, since I was a wwe fan and the last set of months I was slowly not being an AEW fan anymore
Internet wrestling fans are one of the most toxic people I’ve encountered. It is the main reason why I don’t usually talk about wrestling with other people anymore.
yeah incredibly toxic
Tranquilo club is actually the worst. He rebranded to Aew once they started and privated all of his old wwe videos. dude is literal toxic
You can tell these were the kids who constantly ran their mouths and had a smart ass response to anything, but when clapped back at or straight up confronted ran to the first adult and played victim.
With a name like that you would think he would be more “tranquilo” 😅
I wanna like aew, i really am. But these types of people drives me away from the product.
If a person who doesn’t run the show drives you away from watching a product then you just ultra soft and the product may not be for you cuz why would you care about what a UA-camr says
@@princevegeta9149 People who run the show PAY attention to the toxicity and tribalism of AEW, thats the problem. I'm not basing my opinion on a UA-camr or anything, I'm talking about the bigger IWC environment. Why would I like something where I couldn't even critize what's bad in the product, have a good healthy discussion around the product, where the product in itself is built around that culture itself. Call me soft or whatever, but there's no denying that these tribalism hurt AEW.
@@mr.zehaha4960 we could have a normal discussion anytime but the reason why we are “toxic” is because we keep seeing the other side talk shit and for some reason the algorithm pushes it and we keep seeing those Edrones and old heads
@@princevegeta9149😂😂😂Edrones
@@princevegeta9149 Exactly, its a much bigger problem in the end of the day toxicity sells and a lot of people uses that either for clicks or baits. Inherently its not only a problem for wrestling but everything in general. I want AEW to be successful as it will be better for the whole wrestling environment, but in the end if they wanna cater too much for that audience I don't think they would fully prosper as they could ever be.
Tranquilo Club needs to find something to center his personality on other than AEW. He’s a prime example of what people can’t stand about AEW fanboys.
It's funny how he calls people "fed drones" when he's the #1 aew drone 😂
Who needs a pr team when you got nerds on Twitter to do it for you
I stepped away from wrestling for a decade and just got back into it last year. I made a huge mistake and went on X/Twitter to see what the landscape looked like. I asked a few questions about AEW and quickly learned how tribalistic and toxic the fans are. It turned me off from the product. I just stick to watching the shows I like and a bit of UA-cam now.
Tranquilo is a aew d rider
When AEW first started I used to watch that dudes videos and he made great videos with awesome editing, he def has talent. But I quickly realized that’s all he liked he was the biggest AEW mark ever and you’re right these ppl like the tribalism like TK so they can act like they’re in some type of fake wrestling war and relive it like the old days which isn’t the case at all it’s pure delusion. Anyways, I left a comment couple months back on one of his videos saying he should cover WWE content so he can grow his channel more cause he has talent editing and making videos but he just won’t he’s hurting himself just to be a ride or die mark for AEW which is sad to me. Plus it doesn’t help I keep hearing about negative interactions he’s had with ppl who disagree with him they end up getting banned or blocked lmfao. 😂 keep doing you Geekdom and speaking how u really feel don’t let these 💩 heads especially the worst fan base of them all imo in AEW ruin that for you. Much love keep up the great work brother. 💯🎯
What's crazy is, I lost interest in AEW because of how they booked Samoa Joe into getting his world title shot. And ever since then, the product has had more bad than good. WWE has had more good than bad. NWA has been highly entertaining to me. And MLW and TNA are there, I like the Steve guy in TNA.
But with how tribalism is in wrestling community, I don't share my opinions with anyone except a small group chat with like 5 other people in it... And even then, I don't talk much.
There is no tribalism. it’s WWE at the top and then everybody else in the Indies.
lol that's already tribalism right there.
You literally just did an act of tribalism lmao
@@mikewillnotdie that’s not tribalism that’s just a fact
@@Bluis5445 yea ok
Thank god someone’s finally talking about tranquilo club, ever since punk left his tweets and videos have been unbearable
The only wrestling fan more unhinged than Tranquillo is Sean Ross Sapp and they are both big AEW guys.
I was never a TNA fan, but never once saw such seething hatred from their fans when they were #2.
Bro TNA was the coolest thing ever back in the day when I discovered it and not once did I ever experience tribalism hell I didn’t even know that was a thing until AEW came along yikes 😬
@@homework9102 Yeah, only reason I couldn't get into TNA is it didn't have all the history like WWE did. I liked to go back and watch the old documentary DVDs and Wrestlemanias, etc.
It's not like you didn't just do a video earlier about WWE have a trash draft
which isn't true
Right. Most of us agree the Draft was Trash, just like putting the title on Becky might not have been the best idea. We can admit when WWE does something wrong and be critical of it, in hopes WWE will do better. You are not allowed to do that about AEW in anyone, and it''s guys like Tranquilo, Wrestling Otaku, and DrainBramger that make it worse.
@@vegetalover9297 it is true
What's sad is that these are grown ass men taking this wrestling shit way too serious
Lol that guy is a fanboy that was not WWE taking shots it was CM Punk and it was in an interview about his journey to his current run in WWE. That wasn't him "selling" he was being himself answering honestly. Tony in response chose to make it part of his show when it was something that wasn't even said or mentioned on WWE tv.
Geekdom how do you feel about the Young Bucks? I’m not sure if you mentioned them in previous videos, but I would be interested to hear more of your perspective of them.
good wrestlers - should NOT be EVPs.
Tony Schiavone having PTSD rn
WWE has some crazy stars too, but what sets them apart from AEW fans is that they can at least admit when their product is doing badly, such as the WWE draft and the Rock’s insertion into Cody’s story, which they then turned into a monster storyline.
Tribalism is the reason I don’t fuck with any wrestling subreddits anymore. Every time you express an unpopular opinion, the mob will swarm you.
That's how my buddy is he's a aew hardcore fan n I tell him I like all shows equal I call all shows out equally
Tranquilo is one of the worst tribalists out there. And so is TK. These are the same crowd who cry ENJOY ALL WRESTLING when AEW hits rock bottom.
BTW keep up the good work geekdom. You are a good sub on yt
I genuinely don't know how these people like Solomonster, Going in Raw or JDfromNY cover professional wrestling for a living. The wrestling fanbase is something else. I couldn't imagine actually putting a spotlight on yourself to attract these people.
TK does listen to them from what I've heard
He does
And that how he gets his terrible booking ideas
thats why i said that.
AEW tryhards can't see the reality
I used to like tranquilo club when he was more a Punk fan
I hope at some point we can move past the tribalism. If AEW keeps improving and starts doing well, great. If WWE keeps a steady pace, building up stories until the time of the big PLEs come and the big stars come back, awesome. If TNA has great shows arld its popularity rises, fantastic. If the NWA can pick up a few of the WWE releases and do something with them, that'd be cool too. If Tony Khan finds a way to give ROH more exposure, perfect. Why can't we like more than 1 promotion?
Just with those 5 promotions there are about 20 hours worth of wrestling content every week on TV and Digital. Without all the commercial breaks and it might be about 15 or 16. I'd say about 60% of it is great, 20% or more is good or at least ok, I'd say about 10% is just meh and only about 5-10% is actually bad. If only about an hour and a half is bad but there are so many shows, I think wrestling is doing very well.
Tranquilo club is just like what culture and all the other wrestling channels there all marks for Aew.
Sad part is WhatCulutre or AEWCulture get paid to do it. But yes Sidgwick so much want to be Metlzer he doesn't even hide it.
TranquiloClub like DrainBamager and WrestlingOtaku are of the most tribalistic trolls I've ever seen. I don't even use Twitter and I've seen and heard all the time their responses to everything. They will die on the sword of AEW while making sure to take every shot at "Evil Fed" they can. They are the soldiers Tony needs and wants for his "WAR' that will never happen. You'd almost think they get paid to do this or they are burner accounts of Tony and the Bucks. Hell most of us agree the WWE Draft was terrible and needs to be scrapped, or that putting the title on Becky might not have been the best idea. These three are examples of you are not allowed to talk bad about AEW in anyone. The match last night with Jericho and Shibata was garbage, even more so when AEW claims to be pure "Pro Wrestling" yet they'll praise it as pure genius by Tony and totally not "Sports Entertainment."
Tranquillo has definetly been critical of AEW and NJPW(His favorite promotions). He was very critical of some of the booking last year especially. He is not a "They can do no wrong" guy.
The same guy who said 1 month ago “this is the best vibes aew has had. Aew is on a role. Same vibes from 2021 will be in 2024 in aew. That same mark?
@@Moneymanwow Yeah, he was actually pretty critical last year.
@@lonewolf7396 maybe I didn’t see the ones from last year but the 3 I watched this year of him has been the opposite of critical. I’ll take your word though
@Hissonyou Well, they've mostly been consistently good this year, so yeah.
I used to think tranquilo club was spitting truth back in 2021. But now with aew in an a bit of an obvious slump its easier to see tranquilo club is hardcore meatriding
Like i understand aew still has qualities that people would enjoy over wwe but tranquilo is acting like aew is a solid 9/10 while wwe is a 3/10 like its 2019 which is untrue
Enjoy all wrestling
As long as it's AEW
I disagree anyone who runs a business or owns a company should listen to feedback from fans but they shouldn't go by every single thing they say. That was what led to the decline of WWE. Vince McMahon refused to listen to fans. 6:13 - 6:29
And honestly the success of a wrestling business or any business may not change our life but as fans it may have an impact. Tony Khan just needs to step his game up. Tony Khan needs to stop acting like a fool. The reason why AEW gets so much heat is because of him. And I'm not even an AEW fan. I have no reason to watch AEW. Everyone says the samething. AEW for the most part is just a bunch of exhibition matches. Until that changes I won't even entertain the idea of watching. I'm good with WWE and TNA.
youre not disagreeing, you're saying the same thing im saying w/ different words (and prob better)
Tranquiloclubs like the Chris Stuckmann of wrestling when it comes to AEW criticisms . Wouldn’t surprise me if one day he said, “I’m not about bashing bookers or wrestlers. I know how hard it is to book a wrestling show”😂😂
Did you see the new Jim Cornette controversy?
yeah it was stupid
@@WorldofGeekdom some people on X literally said I don't need to watch it or hear about it to know it's racist
If u thought about the all in footage u would know it was released the same week because of bad timing they was already doing the cry me a river and scapegoat a week before so they was doing it for the story but people just want to believe itvwas petty for some reason the footagevwould have still been released and Jack is now more other because people see he did nothing wrong in the footage
It's real funny these hardcore fans are the reason I don't bother with wrestling anymore if you want to start drama over some entertainment it just shows how pathetic the person is
Trans Club rides AEW suavemente
roflmao
Who In The Blue Hell is that
AEW Tuber.
@@WorldofGeekdom that name sounds familiar
Every AEW superfan is worse than any WWE fan
both as bad as each other
The tribalism is so exausting sometimes espically towards AEW. All I see is when people insult AEW it's the all empty wrestling take and talking about sales. While it is true to an extent i'm just so tired of seeing that certain take.
Aew fans are snyder fans of wrestling
Geekdom just mad TK doesn’t tweet him for advice lol
lmaooooooooooooooooooo
It's not about tribalism for MOST wrestling fans. We can recognize good wrestling shows and bad wrestling shows and unfortunately AEW prefers to keep putting on bad wrestling shows.
I give TranquiloClub credit, unlike the Bruv Club, and every single dirtsheet guy (heres looking at you Sapp and Meltz) at least hes honest about being biased towards AEW
that's fair
Haters going to hate. Not a bad guy, hating on aew. It’s not aew fans it’s wwe fans
TBH I don't listen to your AEW reviews because you come off as bias. Not sure if it's your dislike or Tony Khan or what. I like your other videos though.
And TBF most critics of AEW online is just farming for views. It's become cool to hate on AEW. If the product is that bad why do so many UA-camrs spend so much time covering it? I never see half as many videos about TNA or NJPW. And those videos on AEW get a lot of views. I guess there is a thin line between love and hate.
Is Tranquilo wrong tho? Nah he’s right, triple h took shots at Will Ospreay and Roman said that Cody was doing a whole bunch of nothing in 2020 on TV meaning AEW so AEW has every right to take a shot back
Triple h never mention his name and roman comment was over 4 years ago and he was right.
@@xzenitramx666 Ospreay didn’t mention any names too
@@princevegeta9149 he say triple h was mart of wwe because he was raw dogging the owner of the company, dont defend flaworless ricochet his a dumb, soft thin skin and inmature kid.
"AEW has every right to take a shot back", it's not like AEW has taken countless shots at WWE since it's creation; oh wait they do. While WWE barely mentions AEW, but when they do AEW fanboy weirdos like Tranquilo Club acts AEW is victim who needs to defend themselves.
There is a plethora of anti aew or "pro wwe" channels and accounts. Tranq is one of the very few pro aew channels. He has to go as hard has he does. And i 100% support him
Lol, lmao even
Dork
Tranqúilo club match mark 4 LIFE
Tranquiloclub and WWEREALONE are the biggest AEW D riders on X.
Used to listen to you talk about dragon ball z, and now listen to talk about wrestling 🔥🔥🔥 i knew your voice sounded familiar