It’s because there’s no repercussions for those with specific views to get as political as they want, and they also tend to do it under the guise of ‘being brave.’ Those of us that have views slightly different from corporate approved ones have to bite our tongues. LinkedIn has actually created one of the most insidious echo chambers. At least on Twitter and other ones there is some form of opposition allowed to speak. I had to delete the app so now I only see something briefly when I use my LinkedIn for my actual job. These people go unchecked completely on LinkedIn. And if you do, they’ll have no problem trying to get you fired.
Notice how the CEO, who praises his star worker who works 90 hours a week, says NOTHING about how much the employee is compensated. "Who needs paid? We're family."
That's right: why make seven million dollars annually on your own (working for yourself--with the skills you so obviously have that even your boss admits to depending upon them--thus freed from the "revolutionary" open-space office while setting your own hours and level of productivity) when you can make $15 an hour at 90 hours a week and spiral into exhaustion and burnout just to make your blowhard boss rich?
That is messed up. That man is being slaved away and when he gets tired out he will be replaced because productivity is falling. US work culture is toxic is F.
Every office I've worked at, they always say, 'We're a big family here.' And it does motivate people to work harder, & neglect their actual families, & put up with all sorts of degrading shit." ~ Colin Robinson
It is genuinely funny to see a 'CEO' refer to software developers as essentially useless when the software developers are either creating/maintaining/supporting a product while the CEO's job is basically be charismatic, delegate to others and just pretend like you know what you're doing.
@@JeffCaplan313 Exactly, rich people define, to some extent, what's supposed to be charismatic and poor people have to either follow, or keep on being poor/die of poverty related causes...
@JeffCaplan313 hence the low pay. Could you imagine if a software developer got time/moneyto live a positive lifestyle that only enhances their charisma and gives energy to reflect on future prospects? They would be fucking unstoppable. I mean just look at Johnny Silverhands GF. And she was just hot with like a in 5 charisma.
Yes. If you people have to work more than 45 hours a week, there are some serious project management issues that need to be addressed. The more hours the developers work, the more mistakes they make because they are tired. It only takes 3 months of that horrid pace to burn out developers. For some, they bounce back over a long weekend. Others take a month or more to bounce back. Humans are not appliances that you plug in. We are not digital, we are analog beings. We work in cycles.
@@bitmanagent67It can be Due to lack of employees But there are 2 others reason as to why Unrealistic Timetables Excessive micromanagement Often times. The product leads set completely unrealistic goals. Underestimating the amount of work required for a project and sometimes They may be far to busy interrupting everything with useless meetings are other "company events" that the engineers spend more time doing anything But their job
That CEO has serious mental issues. The poor baby isn't constantly the center of attention because his mean software engineers are too busy working. I'm sure that company will be a big success with a CEO that has the mind and self-awareness level of a 10 year old, that thinks workers are to make them feel like a special boy or girl. His parents must have not given him enough hugs. I don't think his investors will be giving him many once he drives their investment into the ground either. He's the product of advancement being based on who is the best sycophant and bullshit talker.
Imagine being angry at your workers for doing what you pay them for instead of wasting everyone else's time and money like you (an incompetent CEO) do. I'd rather sit mostly in silence only talking to others about issues related to current tasks (and maybe chit chat a bit during break) but be a part of competent team than waste half the time chatting about unrelated crap that completely destroys efficiency of second half dedicated to work (remember that software engineerign is very focus-centric job)
I think managers, CEOs and other narcissists are beginning to feel backed into a corner. The rest of us are finally seeing them for what they are and it's scaring the shit out of them.
Software development is not a very fun profession, and the toxic corporate work culture just makes it worse. Unlike many useless corporate roles, it gets noticed pretty quickly when a developer isn't working. Sorry we can't be extroverted yuppies who waste most of our days chatting and appearing busy.
I've met a lot of software guys who jumped to IT just to get their work/life balance back because IT can just fuck off and as long as things are running okay no one notices.
@@IPODsify Mandatory fun! Team-building! Smile! Be present! Bring the real you! The real me feels violently sick whenever someone starts talking about "culture".
I don't know... I wouldn't consider myself an introvert. That's why I definitely go to in person meetings, that happen once a month or every few months. That's about as often I'd come into the office. My employer knows that and since I am not only developing stuff, but also developing teams and processes along with the customer, and the customer is happy and gladly extends the contracts every time, I must be doing something right. And that's even though sometimes I just work half the time. I also like to help my colleagues by reviewing their stuff or helping in some specific architectural problems, but I don't really care about their personal lives. And I don't expect them to care about mine either. It's work. And it's working out so far, though had I been a bit more ruthless, I'd certainly be earning more money by now and in the end my working hours and the salary are the two reasons I even do the job. Sure, a nice team makes things easier, but it's not the top priority.
As a software engineer, its very difficult to chit chat while programming, and it is annoying as hell to lose your train of thought. Some people can barely text their friends and breathe at the same time; try keeping track of several files and lines of code you are in the middle of editing and see if you can have a convo about some rando you met at Starbucks. You should be lucky to get a grunt, at least he squeezed in an acknowledgement that he heard you while his brain is on fire.
Outsider's perspective: "What a lazy ass. He's in his bubble." Insider the SE's mind: Typing code with no error whatsoever, keeping a block of code fresh in memory, and keeping an eye out for any problem coding will create. Software is a spaghetti code that feeds on braincells, not social niceties.
I hear you on the train of thought thing. Many years ago, on a first generation XBox project, one half-wit producer kept asking me "is it done yet?" every 20 minutes. In the end, I said "F*ck off, you smug tw*t!". He left me alone and the job was finished in about 45 minutes, if memory serves.
Some people have no concept of what real work is and how much concentration it can take. When you're are in the zone on a problem, the hours can melt away. The last thing you want it stop and stroke the CEO's ego.
To be a software engineer you need an IQ around 1 standard deviation above the average. A mentally challenged person will have an IQ 1 standard deviation below the average. The average person has as much capacity to understand what a software engineer is doing as a mentally challenged person can understand an average person. An office environment for a software engineer is like working surrounded by a crowd of Forrest Gumps.
@@reasonwarriorIf I told y'all who theorized over that exact same physical and spiritual disgust, albeit with slightly different words and more than a hundred years ago, some might probably don't believe me.
Imagine saying software developers that YOU hired are not valuable and not fundamentally realizing they can actually completely destroy your entire digital infrastructure with ease. Point in case, a coding bootcamp I went to years ago had an instructor tell me a story of how he hacked Disneyland's restaurant reservation system and basically cleared the entire year out for his entire family to come and go to the restaurant onsite whenever he wanted to go. He told them about what he did and they hired him to fix it lmao. People who don't know what they are leading should not be the leader.
Working in I.T. i can confirm that those without the slightest fucking clue about how things work just love to walk in and tell you how to handle things like its nothing.
@@AB-bx5to Or how about this one "this shouldn't take you more than a minute to fix. It's pretty easy." And he's telling you this all the while "demanding" your help.
@@AB-bx5to Also working in IT like desktop support, system admin, networking and etc.. they see you as a cost sink then a gain. They often shrink the IT team as small as possible which overloads the team.
@@acosilicon lol if someone came at me like this, I'd tell him: if it's easy and you can fix it in 5 minutes, then what's stopping you from fixing it? Don't you want to fix it or what?
Oh yes - absolutely true, especially considering how "testing in production" has been done ever since, it's really easy to mess up the production environment without anyone knowing who it was, because not everything is being logged. Though to be honest, my employer and his clients aren't that dumb to say we developers don't matter, because he knows we do.
Well - they can do this all they want, but as long as it's paying better than many other jobs, I don't care. There's always a lot of jobs to chose from.
It's funny because most of these CEOs don't even have a clue as to how their products/services actually work. It's literally the engineers and analysts who are doing all the actual work.
Don't forget they are also trying to protect their investments into commercial real estate that no one wants anymore. It's fun to tell those same entitled douchebags, too bad if you don't like it. Go cry into your pile of money. Commerical real estate owners can suck it.
And always remember in a lot of those posts "CEO" is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Most of them are just deluded desperate hustling salespeople thinking if they grind hard enough it will be them!* *NARRATOR: It never will.
That last guy is basically the owner of the small construction company I work for. I was told 'Buy a dog if you want a friend' regarding his very abusive and poor behavior. I responded with 'Buy a dog if you want loyalty'. Seems like a good idea to run off your top talent and highest contributors for no real reason, and lose all of the institutional knowledge your company has. It's like they think they're feudal lords and that we're serfs, unable to leave when we're abused. They're your boss, not your owner.
This is the real reason they want the non-compete agreements. They want massive contractual penalties for your leaving, without any for them making you leave.
Being polite and decent does not require to be friends. Look at the conversation between Neo and Agent Smith after the latter bragged about no longer being part of the system, right before their final clash ("thank you", "you're welcome"). Being boss is not an excuse for being an asshole.
Being a decent human is also better for profits... These people are so power and money hungry they've forgotten how business works. It doesn't matter how good your product is, if you're enough of a jerk, I'm not doing business with you.
If I caught my CEO talking about me like that I'd find a new job within the week. Software dev / IT is already thankless enough, but having a whining manchild in charge of you, no thanks. There's plenty places out there that are looking for my skillset.
Why do you care just swallow your pride, do your job, and leave if you see something better. Your CEO is not your mom, your girlfriend, or your therapist
@@richardlyman2961why care you work for a daft sociopath who posts cringe on linked in? How about job, security, and self preservation? A CEO that bad can have a company last that long . But you, do you chief go work for the most toxic place ever and see how that goes. What a stupidly formed conclusion that it’s about feelings and personal pride. It’s bad leadership dolt. Lol
@@richardlyman2961because it's just business and as a software engineer I also would also switch if my CEO talked like that. It's easy to get another job, and often it'll come with a raise.
@@richardlyman2961 He does say that he will leave for something better. And no, the CEO doesn't have to be your mom, girlfriend or therapist. But if they and upper management actively hate or dislike you, your career progression is basically dead. So yeah, a company whose management talks like that, is a place that you should leave immediately.
Sad that these outsourced “recruiters” from India destroyed the IT job search. It’s nothing but resume harvesting with fake openings and getting more spam emails than usual.
That's not even the worst of it. It's full of buttkissing corporate rats posting feel good nonsense about teamwork and family while they ruthlessly count beans at the office.
I'm personally sick and tired of companies trying to instill a corporate culture. I have my own culture, I don't need your or want yours. I don't want to be part of your corporate family, it's not a family, we are treated like family, your job isn't the center of my life and never will be. I'm here to do the job and only the job I agreed to. If you want more, you need to pay more. I am not invested in the company success. Why should I be? the company isn't invested in me. I'll get laid off as soon as the company beleives it can boost profits by laying me off. Corporate hypocrisy is out of control.
The current system is engineered to be the way that it is. It wasn't an accident. Companies no longer have to compete for good workers due to several factors. Mega mergers, outsourcing and "softening the labor market" (intentionally increasing the unemployment rate) to name a few. That means poor work conditions and pay, along with higher profits for the few at the top. You're right, though. Desperate people will work themselves literally to death to keep food in their childrens' mouths. That's the whole point. Stop defending this broken system and keep your soul intact. @ch-yq5yn
@ch-yq5yn Did you read his message? He's not talking about not working. He's talking about not being part of the stupid, artificially imposed "culture" that so many companies feel the need to impose.
@ch-yq5yn Funny how "make yourself valuable enough that you can't be fired" is often misinterpreted. "Write clean, efficient and maintainable code" becomes "Write unmaintainable Eldritch abomination code that the company's entire tech stack depends on." The one losing to competition is not the one deserving it in this case
Isn't that talent though? We can complain about it but almost none of us can create a company that can generate millions (it's way harder than we may think).
@@johntoto5496Whether or not your business generates millions depends on many other factors than talent, though. It does require some skills with people and communication, but you don't have to be insanely talented. Just know the right people and make the right calls at the right times, which can heavily depend on luck.
@@me0101001000 the only thing more dangerous is the Engineer who is friends with his technicians and machinists. Not only does he have the knowledge of how to design and destroy you, he has the man to make it a reality too.
If an employer actually cared about their employee as a human being, they'd stop that person from working 90 hours a week. That is damaging. Every person needs to be part of a social circle and family that is NOT work. It always amazes me how companies see people working so many hours as a win. I understand it has to happen from time to time, but constantly, and to brag about it? It really shows who the sociopath is.
non productive people can not gauge the quality of people or the value they bring to the company. non productive people can only count the numbers on the clock.
Maybe, just maybe, software devs stick to themselves and get annoyed when they are disrupted because the CEO and sales type only think of us as magical unicorns that poop out working code on command. If you want developers to contribute to “Company Culture” consider recognizing and respecting their efforts without constantly overloading them with unrealistic deadlines????
Oh well, I am at a point, where I tell them to check my scrum board and add to it and prioritize things on it and not bother me otherwise. Then again if I leave, they'll be with no support or line function left AND I bring in the experience to work with other architects to develop proof of concept implementations and such. While I did train a colleague to be able to carry out most of the support tasks, sometimes he's lost, too (he's relatively junior, but he's doing awesome for a junior dev), and that's usually where I come in and find out what even needs fixing and if it's even our program malfunctioning.
I've seen good company culture. Good company culture looks like adults treating each other like adults. There's no artificial HR corporate BS about it. There's just "hey, we've got this problem, you're the guy to fix it. What do you need from me to get you started/unstuck?" and "Hey, I'm working on solving your problem, I've got a few concepts but I want this bit here clarified so I can pick which one to go with. Can you clear this up for me?" And that's it. That's a great workplace.
As a software developer let me say that I'm very happy I work from home surrounded by my kitties and don't give a duck for what any edgy trendy CEO thinks of me.
I have worked in the office for over 24 years in I.T and most people work behind a screen and many if not most lose productivity by working in the office. In the office there are more distractions that keep you from working on your task. I have the type of job that requires me to be in the office Monday through Friday and I will attest that in the office everyone only actually works for about 5 hours. The other time is wasted by constant shoulder tabs, Random conversations, God forbid your office workers are into sports or the big television show. Add in bathroom breaks, Lunch, Just getting up from your desk to stretch your legs. I was the most productive when everyone was working at home leaving me with absolutely no distractions at work. So yes working in the office only works if you have a job that requires you to be in the office and everyone else works from home. Driving into work on the days everyone else are not required to be office is the greatest thing ever. Sorry for the rant but most workers don't need to be in the office if their entire job is strictly working behind a screen.
@ch-yq5ynWhen I still worked in an office I had a coworker who'd always chat people up, talk for hours, watched soccer for hours, and then he would do overtime, lol. People who wanted to slack did so.
Sounds to me like these CEO don't understand their own business very well. Attaching a lot of value to things that are meaningless to the business itself. 40+ people working from him and he decides to publicly post this? If he's still working with software developers this is beyond dumb.
Many, dare I say MOST, of these CEOs are absolutely clueless and don't understand how their products actually work. Most of the time these ppl are just rich trust fund kids who had legacies at Ivy Leagues or other top schools, and they network with other rich families to provide funding. The person who actually develops the business idea is the lead engineer/CTO, and these CEOs are primarily glorified middlemen for the engineers to get connected to private equity funding.
Correct ceo and c suites are all useless. They are just funding the engineers to produce the product but do really nothing else. Legacy corporation ceos are truly worthless overpaid figureheads producing nothing of value.
@@BOSSDONMAN Realistically many CEOs basically become parasites of their own company with their inflated salaries. They're just taking large portions of the companies money for themselves that could be distributed among the workers instead (thus increasing moral and productivity) or used to continue to grow the company. Honestly... rich people get grifted just the same as poor people. They're just being grifted by either nepotism or social manipulation (from the CEO falsely claiming an overinflated value to the company).
In other words, the CEO is displeased that one group of employees have something better to do (i.e. productive work) vs. flattering his ego at every turn. Absolutely cringeworthy. That he feels free to post about it like this is really telling about the current state of the "corporate wotld."
As an embedded engineer, non-tech people drive me insane because they constantly interrupt me while I'm deep in concentration. And they want is some BS but they think it's important and top priority.
My wife is forced to work 6 days a week since it's the only job locally she could find that pays well, but now she's sick and has a whole ONE sick day a year. She burnt it up and is now dragging herself into work today and tomorrow. She woke up crying yesterday just wanting to stay home and rest. Fuck this evil country and it's treatment of workers.
People from the older generation, who were paid to live well with only one person's job in work, think its okay to berate and disrespect employees, likely because they were paid so well to take it. Nobody has ever paid me that well, and if someone's putting their work in my hands, showing me disrespect isn't going to do your business any favors.
It was also the case that a lot of times the skill they had was something very basic, something relatively straight forward. You cannot get a job today because you can type, fill out excel forms or pick up the phone and talk to customers.
Agreed, except that I think you thinking of the 50s when you talk about being paid so that your family could live comfortably on one salary. People who experienced that haven’t been in the workforce for a very long time.
Having worked with a software dev for the past 15 years it depends on the person. Most of them though are allergic to BS. There's nothing more annoying for devs of having a CEO who knows nothing of software engineering come to them with a "new idea". The time the CEO is gurgling with his own self-worth, there are lines of codes that aren't getting committed.
It's telling that Rilla posting focuses on what that overworked employee did for them instead of what they did for the employee. I see a pizza party in that employee's future for bringing in millions in revenue.
Don't forget, they will punish him for eating any of the pizza or participating in the party. If he doesn't participate in the party or eat any of the pizza they will punish him for not appreciating it.
"Every office I've worked at, they always say, 'We're a big family here.' And it does motivate people to work harder, & neglect their actual families, & put up with all sorts of degrading shit." ~ Colin Robinson
Notice how a CEO is a boss and not a leader, the difference is a boss will sit back and point at what he wants done, a leader is part of the team heading in the direction you need to go.
I remember one time casually mentioning how I don't like LinkedIn for having to put my picture and entire professional and academic history for literally everybody on the internet to see.. and boy the look i got from people around.
Did they point and starting screaming, "Heretic! Not one of us! Not one of us!"? I swear, the corporate environment is some sort of sick cult at this point.
It doesn't surprise me that these pieces of garbage see us this way. It says a lot about the issue of corporate cringe: for them, we are just puppets placed there for their profit and amusement.
With that last one, recently saw a video about the decline of Subway and noticed something with them as well. CEOs of these franchises all had one thing in common: loyalty. What I mean by that is that the people that made Walmart, McDonalds, Subway, iirc KFC, they all made sure to actually visit their stores and make sure things were running smoothly. They made sure their employees were taken care of, their managers were doing their jobs, the stores looked good, everything that you would want to do when your name is attached to something. When your name is attached, you don't want people to associate your name with "miserable employees and nasty store." I wish modern CEOs would take a page out of the past CEOs books. It is their responsibility to make sure you're happy, because if you're not happy, you will leave, and that isn't a good look for your brand.
I'm a design engineer and I work from home. Luckily they closed the local office so there is no office to go to. Sales still whines about it, because me working from home doesn't allow for "in-person collaboration." I've never understood this criticism because "collaboration" in my mind assumes useful input from sides. The problem is that Sales doesn't understand the day one basics enough to form a useful idea. Their input boils down to them shooting themselves in the foot and asking me to patch them up. I wish they would understand that the best thing they could do is to get out of my way and let me work. I'm not trying to be arrogant and difficult, but Sales interrupting Engineering all day long to put out the fires they keep setting doesn't help anyone. It was so much worse before WFH was a thing.
You need to remember that sales is just emotional and mental manipulation to achieve a goal, in this case to sell something. Do you really think that their games end at the customers?
Devs are the ones who actually got shit to do, so of course we don't wanna talk to anybody. But even if we didn't, I still wouldn't want to take time out of my day to talk to any of the other corporate simps.
I’m a nurse, with average computer skills and no programming or dev skills. Even I know the developers are some of the people in a company doing the most actual work. They’re not lifting heavy things or sweating in the heat, but even I know their work has near constant effect on a company. These CEOs are all either clueless boomers, or young people trying to mimic boomer behavior.
Back when I was in a sales class, they had a simple personality map for people. One axis was sociability, the other dominance. The quadrants being labeled Analytical, Driver, Expressive, and Amiable. Sofware devs and CEOs would be on the same side of (low) sociable, but opposites in terms of dominance. It's not surprising that a CEO would have shit opinions about his employees. They're basically sociopaths.
This sort of CEO attitude is the reason why so many big companies continue to be hacked - probably because software maintenance budgets have been slashed to pay the CEOs bonus.
Black hole of enthusiasm here: the less we’re talking, the more work we’re doing. And most of us really enjoy ENGINEERING things. So, putting it all together, we enjoy building things, and need to focus to do so. Look at that. All you CEOs out there - I solved the mystery. Love, Jim, CEO/JFK/BBQ of Corncob Enterprises
@ch-yq5yn "Nobody ever figured it out all on their own" History and reality would beg to differ with such an erroneous generalization. Just check Google scholar as a start to see how many individuals hold patents by figuring things out on their own.
"The morale in the sweatshop is awful. Just a cesspool of negativity. Obviously the workers' fault." - Ronald C. Flanglethorpe III, CEO, winner of the self-awarded Top 100 CEOs award
Imagine being pissed off because some of us wanna come into work, put their head down, and get shit done without joining in on your "social vibe".. unbelievable.
Not long ago I had a wave of seminars for orientation in an internship role. One of the topics was on LinkedIn, and the woman giving the presentation was stressing the importance of the platform as if it’s a mandatory extension of your resume. This nutcase was swearing every other sentence and had to be told out loud not to do that in front of 40+ interns. She also might’ve been drunk. (She had a “mild buzz” energy to her speech and movement.) Easily the least professional presenter that we had. THAT’S the caliber of person LinkedIn attracts.
Strangers who swear a lot, in my experience, are usually either trying to fake authenticity, or they are trying to distract from the lack of content in their speech by amping up the emphasis provided by swear words. It’s the same dynamic used by comedians to get you to laugh at something that might otherwise only get a yawn.
As a tree climbing arborist... 9 out of 10 help wanted ads for climbers- ONLY want to hire a competitor's climber. They don't want experienced unemployed climbers. I found it off putting enough to become a competitor. It's annoying having to sell jobs instead of just working but c'est la vie!
I have to remind my bosses they're replaceable at least twice a month. They think that they are the only manufacturing plant in Michigan, and no one else would ever hire someone with 15 years of experience, because I would want to much. I took another job making 4 more dollars an hour, then laughed at their " counter offer. I hope they never found another process tech, because they deserve to fail.
Really wild how people think more time = better outcomes for everything. I worked in a production (maintenance) work center and thankfully got to have a boss who when we met our goals we went home. Sometimes that meant getting a three day weekend just for being efficient. I was not in corporate, it was government, but that’s why the corporate world lacks so much incentive structure. It’s all retail and service driven.
Exactly, when everything is about time spent, people just find a way to do minimal work so they can last longer. Which only results in lower quality products and unmotivated employees.
Those CEOs are the people who idolize the office being some sort of Grant Cardone sales environment where people are constantly shouting, ringing bells, and high fiving.
This obsession with working tons of hours has got to stop. Why in the world would anyone be proud of either working that many hours or forcing someone else to? Grinding away day after day, hour after hour, only to be given a pat on the head and your walking papers whenever the mood strikes these sociopaths. Do any of these hours=quality or meaningful productivity junkies know that nothing you do will remain and nothing you earn can be taken with you when you die? Has the thought really never crossed their minds that their life is finite and,depending on your beliefs, also eternel in the sense that you will be judged in relation to your contribution to God's will? Hours spent piling up sand only to be washed away by the tides of time is not something to brag about.
Absolutely. I am currently working a lot of hours, but only because I am paid for each hour. If I wanted to, I could just bill double the amount of time and and get a lot more money. Sadly, I know several people doing exactly that. What I usually try to do is to deliver as much value as possible. It's of course harder to put an actual price on delivered value, so that's why this work is usually paid by the hour. The best developer is actually the one who can deliver the most value in the least amount of time. And with that I don't just mean a lot of code or even a lot of features, but especially maintainable code. You can usually finish a feature really quickly with bad code that has no automated tests, is very hard to understand and even harder to modify without breaking anything. That's usually what you get if you outsource your code, especially if you're relying on the one with the lowest price. Another thing is the difference between a code monkey and a software developer. For the code monkeys, you need to write down exactly what you want in every detail and they will deliver exactly that. A software developer will ask you questions, try to understand the business process as good as possible and give you suggestions on possible pitfalls and improvements so that you will get more value for your money. A lot of those bad managers only see a lot of features for a few bucks and they greedily accept the offer of the code monkeys. "They can do the same stuff for half the money!" Then, after a few years or sometimes even after a few months, they are furious why everything starts breaking and the flow of new features becomes slower and slower. If you want a quick prototype that will never run in production, you can of course do that. If you want anything that has to actually be used and then keep working for more than a few months, try to find the best developers you can find. This might look expensive in the beginning, but it's both cheaper and more productive in the long term. I won't say that it's easy to find these good developers. Those are rare. And if you have no one with the proper knowledge, it is also hard to distinguish the good devs from the ones who only sound good.
CEOs learned that return-to-office mandates didn't work, so rather than admit they were wrong, they instead say "I didn't want you here anyway software engineers!! I'M breaking up with YOU!"
As a lead Software Developer who has to interface with upper management it is incredibly frustrating dealing with people that have absolutely no idea how it works and think we can just magically add any feature they can dream up with a simple push of the button. It's even more frustrating explaining in great detail using simple language why we can't do it, then they say "well, I don't care how you do it just make it work" because if we don't push it out they lose their bonus. I can guarantee you software problems and useless features are 100% caused by management pushing crappy ideas and strict deadlines on developers.
My ex was a big-time corporate lawyer who worked with several fortune 100 company CEOs. She had story after story of their arrogance, cluelessnes, and reckless incompetence. It matched my experience with management during the little bit of time I spent in the corporate world as an engineer.
7:36 **slaps** 8:08 I’m not the CEO’s punching bag, wage slave, livestock, scapegoat, etc. I don’t have to take the job seriously, I don’t have to put up with unreasonable demands, I don’t have to do more than what I am paid. I don’t need to be loyal nor hardworking for a CEO who makes in an hour what I make in a year.
You don't have to be loyal to a corporation who will ditch you in a heartbeat if it means another uptick to the bottom line (and your manager's bonus).
As a CEO on LinkedIn lol, I acknowledge that success often correlates with familial advantages, emphasizing the significance of maintaining and growing inherited wealth. Success hinges on a combination of patience, luck, and strategic financial decisions, yet the inherent disparities in opportunities render it attainable for only a select few. The dynamics of success and failure underscore the reality that in the pursuit of triumph, there are inevitably those who do not prevail. Notably, within affluent families, even setbacks result in a transfer of wealth to subsequent generations.
You know, I am a software developer, but it's not part of my job. Sometimes I have coworkers who know of my skill that will ask me to automate a task, write a quick script, or some oddball task that their guys can't do. And I do go to the city from time to time, to be seen, to be active, to get my lazy life going. I am 54 and can't afford to be in the same place at once for too long anyway.
I’m a software dev and I’m not anti-social. I go out all the time and can make friends easily. I just can’t be disrupted when I’m trying to solve a problem. I’m at my desk with a hoodie and headphones on? I’m not just chillin there to avoid you. I’m trying to figure out this Eldritch error message.
Could be jealousy, but more likely their need to have people around them to control and/or get validation from. It is documented that the CEO mentality is often psychopathic. Psychos NEED other people around to carry out their BS.
CEOs and management are mostly parasites. They don't do real work; they don't create value. They need other people around them to simulate that they are useful and working. Their existence is a lie.
I have noticed this thing recently where i have seen companies/management look down upon software engineers even though engineers are the ones who DO the actual work!
This channel has been essential in helping me get away from the work harder / ask no questions mentality when it comes to employment. I share it any chance I get. Keep up the great work 💪
Nice someone who made a video on this! Ive seen so many ceos whos lost in the sauce and is out of touch with reality with their daily task is to keep their employees happy. You know the ones thats keeping their company afloat 😂
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4:15 Usually when I've worked jobs where i'm doing the 80 hours a week, rather than 40. It's indicative of a ship that's crashing and burning with subpar management or a subpar product and the extra hours are simply needed to stay afloat.
Quick reminder that the main reason anyone is upset by working from home is that the commercial real estate market will crash. Now me? I think we should convert these now useless offices into residential space to combat the housing shortage.
I generally agree, but I suspect we will all discover some downsides when offices are no longer an option for us. Cottage workers were some of the most exploited workers in the early Industrial Revolution.
Always amazes me how these so called managers spend so much time trying to develop a culture. Most worker bees 🐝, on the other hand ✋🏻, just want to do their jobs and go home 🏡. Yes - there is life outside of a corporation! And they wonder why mental health is on the decline. 😳
"My top performer works 6 days a week, 90 hours!" "BTW, we're hiring." Of course you are, you're obviously understaffed if you can't get your work done in 40.
I don't see why I should care more about their company than them, especially considering the fact that I am the one who gets "let go" from the "family".
Bro, had to stop you right from the beginning of the video: from the experience I got, the techie part of companies seems actually the most humane. Not one person who will force a smile and be fake-happy, real buddies with whom you can share jokes that would not fly in most circumstances, and we can roast each other knowing that it means nothing on a personal level. On the other side, when it comes to who hoards the coffee pods for themselves, doesn't clean shit up behind their backs etc...
I agree, the techy and the "dirty" labour are the most human people. They will tell you the truth and be real with you. Its where the streotype of vulgar "shop talk" comes from. Because they are actually either friends or being frank with each other. No relational warfare tactics and gossip for the most part. Be nice to the people who actually make your stuff and keep it working.
2:05 That's a gross misrepresentation of that argument. That person is not "laughing at" or "shaming" people who put the "looking for work" label on their profile. He is just criticising the purpose of the label.
Linkedin should really not be a necessity for any job application but the number of times interviewers ask for it is insane. I should just put a list of made-up things on there and get friends and family to pretend to be contacts or references. If people are actually doing this already i am late to the game 😅
It’s funny because I told my dad about corporate cringe at the work place, and he says, “If you keep working hard and keep your mouth shut, you’ll get to where you want to be.” Or “You’ll be in a higher position in 5 years.” But here’s the thing, this boomer of a 51 year old man has been running his own franchise and hasn’t worked under anyone for 18.5 years… So when he tells people, “I worked for this company” I roll my eyes because of how out of touch he is… Never going to him for work complaints or work advice ever again…
return to office = unpaid emotional labor (and time, and wear and tear on car, and gas money, and prof clothes, and makeup, and babysitting, and road rage...)
Oh I am my CEO and he prohibits me from doing anything, that doesn't mostly benefit me or my company (family). And I obey this and only this CEO. The other bosses are just there for their own interests; I only care to receive my payment and/or raise, but I am not a slave. A job is a job, not a family.
If I'm a UX designer that has to work with software developers on the job all I need to do is just send them my notes with attached designs and ask for feedback on what works and what doesn't because we both want to get business done. Neither one of us is better or higher than the other because we're both here to get the job done. The CEO and their army of HR drones would demand things be done their way.
LinkedIn can be a turn off. It could be the tyranny of an extrovert. If you understand what I mean. Well I prefer to stick to trading the financial market. Who trades the financial market?
I was referring to the stock market. I was profitable from Nvidia this year. Solana spiked recently and I’m planning on purchasing some tech stocks and Ev stocks but I’m willing to try out other financial market. How do you trade?
Nvidia was superb this year. I also traded Apple. I trade based on the season of the market. It gives me a direction on implementing the right strategies for long or short term. I also trade based on the volatility of the market. Although it wasn’t easy till I came across a mentor who helped to keep me in the market loop. My mentor is Bernard Paul.
Paul is also my mentor and I’ve gained valuable insights from Paul and learnt about taking effective trade execution, optimising entry and exit points for better profitability
Good observations and points. Some of the best points by you, Joshua, are at about 3:59 . Thanks for analysis on certain corporate behavior which can help even bigger research. Like the research of what not to do, and hopefully what to do.
I'm a data scientist and I'm used to disrespect and misunderstanding of my profession coming from the seniority level. Also, I think they think they can do my job easily because I came in without knowing anything. The difference is that I haven't stopped learning a single day after hours. Unlike them they just do their job and presume they work hard, which is so cringy 😂
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You're part of that cringe.
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If I were to speak candidly, the AI run by the authoritarian corporation known as Google would surely censor me for the words involved.
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LinkedIn is so cringe, I have to show so much restraint from just roasting every post I see.
The political takes are what infuriate me. They're either bad, or completely head-in-ass awful. Lots of boot licking. Zero dignity.
That’s why I deleted the app from my phone.
It’s because there’s no repercussions for those with specific views to get as political as they want, and they also tend to do it under the guise of ‘being brave.’
Those of us that have views slightly different from corporate approved ones have to bite our tongues. LinkedIn has actually created one of the most insidious echo chambers. At least on Twitter and other ones there is some form of opposition allowed to speak.
I had to delete the app so now I only see something briefly when I use my LinkedIn for my actual job. These people go unchecked completely on LinkedIn. And if you do, they’ll have no problem trying to get you fired.
I tell them i don't put my personal info on the internet @TrueWolf111
@TrueWolf111 My employer said I should update my LinkedIn. Like the previous guy said, I'm only interested in doing my work well and going home.
Notice how the CEO, who praises his star worker who works 90 hours a week, says NOTHING about how much the employee is compensated. "Who needs paid? We're family."
"family' until the CEO/company kicks you out of the house/company.
That's right: why make seven million dollars annually on your own (working for yourself--with the skills you so obviously have that even your boss admits to depending upon them--thus freed from the "revolutionary" open-space office while setting your own hours and level of productivity) when you can make $15 an hour at 90 hours a week and spiral into exhaustion and burnout just to make your blowhard boss rich?
That is messed up. That man is being slaved away and when he gets tired out he will be replaced because productivity is falling. US work culture is toxic is F.
These CEOs don't have lives outside of work.
Every office I've worked at, they always say, 'We're a big family here.' And it does motivate people to work harder, & neglect their actual families, & put up with all sorts of degrading shit." ~ Colin Robinson
It is genuinely funny to see a 'CEO' refer to software developers as essentially useless when the software developers are either creating/maintaining/supporting a product while the CEO's job is basically be charismatic, delegate to others and just pretend like you know what you're doing.
Being charismatic is a lot of work when you're poor.
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@@JeffCaplan313 Exactly, rich people define, to some extent, what's supposed to be charismatic and poor people have to either follow, or keep on being poor/die of poverty related causes...
It would be funny if all that company's software developers quit and he had to find out how valuable they really are.
@JeffCaplan313 hence the low pay.
Could you imagine if a software developer got time/moneyto live a positive lifestyle that only enhances their charisma and gives energy to reflect on future prospects?
They would be fucking unstoppable. I mean just look at Johnny Silverhands GF.
And she was just hot with like a in 5 charisma.
If your employees are working 80 hours a week, you need to double your workforce.
They only get it after said employees leaves them...
Yes. If you people have to work more than 45 hours a week, there are some serious project management issues that need to be addressed. The more hours the developers work, the more mistakes they make because they are tired. It only takes 3 months of that horrid pace to burn out developers. For some, they bounce back over a long weekend. Others take a month or more to bounce back. Humans are not appliances that you plug in. We are not digital, we are analog beings. We work in cycles.
Nope. People need to be too busy working to realize they can start their own company.
Or halve your scope. Or delay your product. But nah, let's just keep doing the dumbest thing possible.
@@bitmanagent67It can be Due to lack of employees But there are 2 others reason as to why
Unrealistic Timetables
Excessive micromanagement
Often times. The product leads set completely unrealistic goals. Underestimating the amount of work required for a project and sometimes They may be far to busy interrupting everything with useless meetings are other "company events" that the engineers spend more time doing anything But their job
These are the people "NO ONE WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE"
No one wants to work for you anymore.
Yeah, they should take it personal😁
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The CEO's basically complaining that his software engineers are too engrossed in their work to entertain him.
They might as well just shout, "DANCE MONKEY". same vibe.
Well said, exactly. You must pay homage lol.
These kinds of CEOs sound like teenage attention whores who have never written code or built an application in their entire life.
That CEO has serious mental issues. The poor baby isn't constantly the center of attention because his mean software engineers are too busy working. I'm sure that company will be a big success with a CEO that has the mind and self-awareness level of a 10 year old, that thinks workers are to make them feel like a special boy or girl. His parents must have not given him enough hugs. I don't think his investors will be giving him many once he drives their investment into the ground either. He's the product of advancement being based on who is the best sycophant and bullshit talker.
Imagine being angry at your workers for doing what you pay them for instead of wasting everyone else's time and money like you (an incompetent CEO) do.
I'd rather sit mostly in silence only talking to others about issues related to current tasks (and maybe chit chat a bit during break) but be a part of competent team than waste half the time chatting about unrelated crap that completely destroys efficiency of second half dedicated to work (remember that software engineerign is very focus-centric job)
I think managers, CEOs and other narcissists are beginning to feel backed into a corner. The rest of us are finally seeing them for what they are and it's scaring the shit out of them.
Good
I'm sure they're shaking in their boots bud
You are talking like if employes cant be narcissic.
Software development is not a very fun profession, and the toxic corporate work culture just makes it worse. Unlike many useless corporate roles, it gets noticed pretty quickly when a developer isn't working. Sorry we can't be extroverted yuppies who waste most of our days chatting and appearing busy.
I've met a lot of software guys who jumped to IT just to get their work/life balance back because IT can just fuck off and as long as things are running okay no one notices.
Dude like who the fuck cares about the work culture? Like let me do my job and go home
@@IPODsify Leaving you alone to do your job and go home is part of a work culture. Bad work cultures don't let us do that.
@@IPODsify Mandatory fun! Team-building! Smile! Be present! Bring the real you!
The real me feels violently sick whenever someone starts talking about "culture".
I don't know... I wouldn't consider myself an introvert. That's why I definitely go to in person meetings, that happen once a month or every few months. That's about as often I'd come into the office. My employer knows that and since I am not only developing stuff, but also developing teams and processes along with the customer, and the customer is happy and gladly extends the contracts every time, I must be doing something right. And that's even though sometimes I just work half the time.
I also like to help my colleagues by reviewing their stuff or helping in some specific architectural problems, but I don't really care about their personal lives. And I don't expect them to care about mine either.
It's work. And it's working out so far, though had I been a bit more ruthless, I'd certainly be earning more money by now and in the end my working hours and the salary are the two reasons I even do the job. Sure, a nice team makes things easier, but it's not the top priority.
As a software engineer, its very difficult to chit chat while programming, and it is annoying as hell to lose your train of thought.
Some people can barely text their friends and breathe at the same time; try keeping track of several files and lines of code you are in the middle of editing and see if you can have a convo about some rando you met at Starbucks. You should be lucky to get a grunt, at least he squeezed in an acknowledgement that he heard you while his brain is on fire.
Outsider's perspective: "What a lazy ass. He's in his bubble."
Insider the SE's mind: Typing code with no error whatsoever, keeping a block of code fresh in memory, and keeping an eye out for any problem coding will create.
Software is a spaghetti code that feeds on braincells, not social niceties.
I concur. They fail to appreciate concentrated deep thought. They fail to see that they themselves are disruptive and detriment to developers.
I hear you on the train of thought thing.
Many years ago, on a first generation XBox project, one half-wit producer kept asking me "is it done yet?" every 20 minutes.
In the end, I said "F*ck off, you smug tw*t!".
He left me alone and the job was finished in about 45 minutes, if memory serves.
Some people have no concept of what real work is and how much concentration it can take. When you're are in the zone on a problem, the hours can melt away. The last thing you want it stop and stroke the CEO's ego.
To be a software engineer you need an IQ around 1 standard deviation above the average.
A mentally challenged person will have an IQ 1 standard deviation below the average.
The average person has as much capacity to understand what a software engineer is doing as a mentally challenged person can understand an average person.
An office environment for a software engineer is like working surrounded by a crowd of Forrest Gumps.
I sometimes wonder if the people who regularly use Linkedin are even real humans at this point.
Ripley : You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see [AI] fkg each other over for a goddamn percentage.
They're only physically human. I'm not so certain about the rest.
Agree. I feel some of the comments are too generic and fake to to be humans. Almost like bots or something similar.
It's a strange phenomenon but for some reason when I attempt to scroll Linkedin I always end up being physically and spiritually disgusted.
@@reasonwarriorIf I told y'all who theorized over that exact same physical and spiritual disgust, albeit with slightly different words and more than a hundred years ago, some might probably don't believe me.
Imagine saying software developers that YOU hired are not valuable and not fundamentally realizing they can actually completely destroy your entire digital infrastructure with ease. Point in case, a coding bootcamp I went to years ago had an instructor tell me a story of how he hacked Disneyland's restaurant reservation system and basically cleared the entire year out for his entire family to come and go to the restaurant onsite whenever he wanted to go. He told them about what he did and they hired him to fix it lmao. People who don't know what they are leading should not be the leader.
Working in I.T. i can confirm that those without the slightest fucking clue about how things work just love to walk in and tell you how to handle things like its nothing.
@@AB-bx5to Or how about this one "this shouldn't take you more than a minute to fix. It's pretty easy." And he's telling you this all the while "demanding" your help.
@@AB-bx5to Also working in IT like desktop support, system admin, networking and etc.. they see you as a cost sink then a gain. They often shrink the IT team as small as possible which overloads the team.
@@acosilicon lol if someone came at me like this, I'd tell him: if it's easy and you can fix it in 5 minutes, then what's stopping you from fixing it? Don't you want to fix it or what?
Oh yes - absolutely true, especially considering how "testing in production" has been done ever since, it's really easy to mess up the production environment without anyone knowing who it was, because not everything is being logged.
Though to be honest, my employer and his clients aren't that dumb to say we developers don't matter, because he knows we do.
Imagine having an employee working double time, bringing in 7M, and you still refusing to hire someone to cut his workload in half.
I bet he doesn’t get much of a raise or bonus of any kind as well
Work from home has become the new battleground that CEOs are using to propagate social class warfare.
Well - they can do this all they want, but as long as it's paying better than many other jobs, I don't care. There's always a lot of jobs to chose from.
It's funny because most of these CEOs don't even have a clue as to how their products/services actually work. It's literally the engineers and analysts who are doing all the actual work.
Don't forget they are also trying to protect their investments into commercial real estate that no one wants anymore. It's fun to tell those same entitled douchebags, too bad if you don't like it. Go cry into your pile of money. Commerical real estate owners can suck it.
And always remember in a lot of those posts "CEO" is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Most of them are just deluded desperate hustling salespeople thinking if they grind hard enough it will be them!*
*NARRATOR: It never will.
If CEO refuses to agree with hybrid work, they can pay my allowance via taxes.
That last guy is basically the owner of the small construction company I work for.
I was told 'Buy a dog if you want a friend' regarding his very abusive and poor behavior. I responded with 'Buy a dog if you want loyalty'.
Seems like a good idea to run off your top talent and highest contributors for no real reason, and lose all of the institutional knowledge your company has. It's like they think they're feudal lords and that we're serfs, unable to leave when we're abused. They're your boss, not your owner.
This is the real reason they want the non-compete agreements. They want massive contractual penalties for your leaving, without any for them making you leave.
Being polite and decent does not require to be friends. Look at the conversation between Neo and Agent Smith after the latter bragged about no longer being part of the system, right before their final clash ("thank you", "you're welcome").
Being boss is not an excuse for being an asshole.
Being a decent human is also better for profits...
These people are so power and money hungry they've forgotten how business works. It doesn't matter how good your product is, if you're enough of a jerk, I'm not doing business with you.
If I caught my CEO talking about me like that I'd find a new job within the week.
Software dev / IT is already thankless enough, but having a whining manchild in charge of you, no thanks.
There's plenty places out there that are looking for my skillset.
Why do you care just swallow your pride, do your job, and leave if you see something better. Your CEO is not your mom, your girlfriend, or your therapist
@@richardlyman2961 Troll Bait Denied. Go swallow your CEO
@@richardlyman2961why care you work for a daft sociopath who posts cringe on linked in?
How about job, security, and self preservation?
A CEO that bad can have a company last that long .
But you, do you chief go work for the most toxic place ever and see how that goes.
What a stupidly formed conclusion that it’s about feelings and personal pride. It’s bad leadership dolt. Lol
@@richardlyman2961because it's just business and as a software engineer I also would also switch if my CEO talked like that. It's easy to get another job, and often it'll come with a raise.
@@richardlyman2961 He does say that he will leave for something better. And no, the CEO doesn't have to be your mom, girlfriend or therapist. But if they and upper management actively hate or dislike you, your career progression is basically dead. So yeah, a company whose management talks like that, is a place that you should leave immediately.
All these "networking" and job sites are dumpster fires. Rife with misleading listings and scam ads. I'll be happy to see them eventually fail.
Yea, it is absurd how bad they are. The amount of scamming, lying, and cheating is unreal.
Sad that these outsourced “recruiters” from India destroyed the IT job search. It’s nothing but resume harvesting with fake openings and getting more spam emails than usual.
That's not even the worst of it. It's full of buttkissing corporate rats posting feel good nonsense about teamwork and family while they ruthlessly count beans at the office.
Better to apply directly than waste time going on job sites.
@@tunebeat3809Too bad most fucking jobs are the website now are days.
I'm personally sick and tired of companies trying to instill a corporate culture. I have my own culture, I don't need your or want yours. I don't want to be part of your corporate family, it's not a family, we are treated like family, your job isn't the center of my life and never will be. I'm here to do the job and only the job I agreed to. If you want more, you need to pay more. I am not invested in the company success. Why should I be? the company isn't invested in me. I'll get laid off as soon as the company beleives it can boost profits by laying me off. Corporate hypocrisy is out of control.
The current system is engineered to be the way that it is. It wasn't an accident. Companies no longer have to compete for good workers due to several factors. Mega mergers, outsourcing and "softening the labor market" (intentionally increasing the unemployment rate) to name a few. That means poor work conditions and pay, along with higher profits for the few at the top. You're right, though. Desperate people will work themselves literally to death to keep food in their childrens' mouths. That's the whole point. Stop defending this broken system and keep your soul intact. @ch-yq5yn
@ch-yq5yn Did you read his message? He's not talking about not working. He's talking about not being part of the stupid, artificially imposed "culture" that so many companies feel the need to impose.
@ch-yq5yn found the corporate simp!
@ch-yq5yn Funny how "make yourself valuable enough that you can't be fired" is often misinterpreted.
"Write clean, efficient and maintainable code"
becomes
"Write unmaintainable Eldritch abomination code that the company's entire tech stack depends on."
The one losing to competition is not the one deserving it in this case
CEOs are the best proof that you don't have to be smart or talented to be obscenely rich. In fact those two traits seem to be a detriment.
These CEOs probably have lots of connections that got them here.
Doing work does not make you rich, others doing your work does.
@Dredge22 There is definitely a lot of pretenders for sure.
Isn't that talent though? We can complain about it but almost none of us can create a company that can generate millions (it's way harder than we may think).
@@johntoto5496Whether or not your business generates millions depends on many other factors than talent, though. It does require some skills with people and communication, but you don't have to be insanely talented. Just know the right people and make the right calls at the right times, which can heavily depend on luck.
Lol I haven't heard "engineers are dirty nerds eeew" for a while, this guy time travelled from 1995
Engineers are smart and hardworking people. Picking a fight with someone like that is tickling a dragon's tail.
Devs in 1995? Devs were like 0.5% of your payroll back then, now it's like 10%
@@me0101001000 the only thing more dangerous is the Engineer who is friends with his technicians and machinists. Not only does he have the knowledge of how to design and destroy you, he has the man to make it a reality too.
more like his brain is stuck in high school.
These people's only job is to be well-connected and they confuse that with intelligence.
Ranting about software engineers, yet they complain about it on a social network made by software engineers
Everybody looks down on the computer nerd until their computer needs fixing.
If an employer actually cared about their employee as a human being, they'd stop that person from working 90 hours a week. That is damaging. Every person needs to be part of a social circle and family that is NOT work. It always amazes me how companies see people working so many hours as a win. I understand it has to happen from time to time, but constantly, and to brag about it? It really shows who the sociopath is.
This is unfortunately true for eastern countries as well, especially Japan (known for its workaholic culture).
Or they would compensate said employee for the 90h work, that's probably what the employee truly wants anyway over having rest
non productive people can not gauge the quality of people or the value they bring to the company.
non productive people can only count the numbers on the clock.
why would you say that ... I thought we were family! Walmart family is more important than real family, my manager said so
It's like they care more about hours worked than the actual product.
Software developers might sit in front of screens all day long being focused because software development exactly requires that.
Maybe, just maybe, software devs stick to themselves and get annoyed when they are disrupted because the CEO and sales type only think of us as magical unicorns that poop out working code on command. If you want developers to contribute to “Company Culture” consider recognizing and respecting their efforts without constantly overloading them with unrealistic deadlines????
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They always pop in when you get a bunch of p1 reports on a Friday.
It's like dude, my Adderall is already wearing off. Don't kill my vibe.
Oh well, I am at a point, where I tell them to check my scrum board and add to it and prioritize things on it and not bother me otherwise. Then again if I leave, they'll be with no support or line function left AND I bring in the experience to work with other architects to develop proof of concept implementations and such. While I did train a colleague to be able to carry out most of the support tasks, sometimes he's lost, too (he's relatively junior, but he's doing awesome for a junior dev), and that's usually where I come in and find out what even needs fixing and if it's even our program malfunctioning.
I've seen good company culture. Good company culture looks like adults treating each other like adults. There's no artificial HR corporate BS about it. There's just "hey, we've got this problem, you're the guy to fix it. What do you need from me to get you started/unstuck?" and "Hey, I'm working on solving your problem, I've got a few concepts but I want this bit here clarified so I can pick which one to go with. Can you clear this up for me?" And that's it. That's a great workplace.
@@doughboy_6439 could not agree more. This is exactly what a healthy work culture looks like and man is it nice when things work like this
As a software developer let me say that I'm very happy I work from home surrounded by my kitties and don't give a duck for what any edgy trendy CEO thinks of me.
I have worked in the office for over 24 years in I.T and most people work behind a screen and many if not most lose productivity by working in the office. In the office there are more distractions that keep you from working on your task. I have the type of job that requires me to be in the office Monday through Friday and I will attest that in the office everyone only actually works for about 5 hours. The other time is wasted by constant shoulder tabs, Random conversations, God forbid your office workers are into sports or the big television show. Add in bathroom breaks, Lunch, Just getting up from your desk to stretch your legs. I was the most productive when everyone was working at home leaving me with absolutely no distractions at work. So yes working in the office only works if you have a job that requires you to be in the office and everyone else works from home. Driving into work on the days everyone else are not required to be office is the greatest thing ever. Sorry for the rant but most workers don't need to be in the office if their entire job is strictly working behind a screen.
@ch-yq5ynWhen I still worked in an office I had a coworker who'd always chat people up, talk for hours, watched soccer for hours, and then he would do overtime, lol.
People who wanted to slack did so.
Sounds to me like these CEO don't understand their own business very well. Attaching a lot of value to things that are meaningless to the business itself. 40+ people working from him and he decides to publicly post this? If he's still working with software developers this is beyond dumb.
He doesn't understand what work is when he describes fake smiles as work and claims that software developers "contribute nothing."
Many, dare I say MOST, of these CEOs are absolutely clueless and don't understand how their products actually work. Most of the time these ppl are just rich trust fund kids who had legacies at Ivy Leagues or other top schools, and they network with other rich families to provide funding. The person who actually develops the business idea is the lead engineer/CTO, and these CEOs are primarily glorified middlemen for the engineers to get connected to private equity funding.
Correct ceo and c suites are all useless.
They are just funding the engineers to produce the product but do really nothing else.
Legacy corporation ceos are truly worthless overpaid figureheads producing nothing of value.
@@BOSSDONMAN Realistically many CEOs basically become parasites of their own company with their inflated salaries. They're just taking large portions of the companies money for themselves that could be distributed among the workers instead (thus increasing moral and productivity) or used to continue to grow the company.
Honestly... rich people get grifted just the same as poor people. They're just being grifted by either nepotism or social manipulation (from the CEO falsely claiming an overinflated value to the company).
they dont care all they want more money and middle management and its insecurity have workers at home to micromanage
In other words, the CEO is displeased that one group of employees have something better to do (i.e. productive work) vs. flattering his ego at every turn. Absolutely cringeworthy. That he feels free to post about it like this is really telling about the current state of the "corporate wotld."
As an embedded engineer, non-tech people drive me insane because they constantly interrupt me while I'm deep in concentration. And they want is some BS but they think it's important and top priority.
My wife is forced to work 6 days a week since it's the only job locally she could find that pays well, but now she's sick and has a whole ONE sick day a year. She burnt it up and is now dragging herself into work today and tomorrow. She woke up crying yesterday just wanting to stay home and rest. Fuck this evil country and it's treatment of workers.
Did you say one day of PTO...?
Funny part is, I am ok with this. IDGAF what they think so long as they pay me from home. I had zero intention of meeting them anyway
And while they waste their lives at the office, I only work 4 hours from home and the rest I actually live my life.
If this is how they view people, we're better off away from such judgemental and pretentious people
With the added bonus of not dealing with office politics or the probability of getting Me-Alsoed.
People from the older generation, who were paid to live well with only one person's job in work, think its okay to berate and disrespect employees, likely because they were paid so well to take it. Nobody has ever paid me that well, and if someone's putting their work in my hands, showing me disrespect isn't going to do your business any favors.
It was also the case that a lot of times the skill they had was something very basic, something relatively straight forward. You cannot get a job today because you can type, fill out excel forms or pick up the phone and talk to customers.
Agreed, except that I think you thinking of the 50s when you talk about being paid so that your family could live comfortably on one salary. People who experienced that haven’t been in the workforce for a very long time.
Having worked with a software dev for the past 15 years it depends on the person. Most of them though are allergic to BS. There's nothing more annoying for devs of having a CEO who knows nothing of software engineering come to them with a "new idea". The time the CEO is gurgling with his own self-worth, there are lines of codes that aren't getting committed.
It's telling that Rilla posting focuses on what that overworked employee did for them instead of what they did for the employee. I see a pizza party in that employee's future for bringing in millions in revenue.
😂😂 pizza is currency.
LOL
Don't forget, they will punish him for eating any of the pizza or participating in the party. If he doesn't participate in the party or eat any of the pizza they will punish him for not appreciating it.
Exactly...but the time for the pizza party will not be counted as work, hence no pay for that time.
"Every office I've worked at, they always say, 'We're a big family here.' And it does motivate people to work harder, & neglect their actual families, & put up with all sorts of degrading shit." ~ Colin Robinson
Notice how a CEO is a boss and not a leader, the difference is a boss will sit back and point at what he wants done, a leader is part of the team heading in the direction you need to go.
I remember one time casually mentioning how I don't like LinkedIn for having to put my picture and entire professional and academic history for literally everybody on the internet to see.. and boy the look i got from people around.
Did they point and starting screaming, "Heretic! Not one of us! Not one of us!"? I swear, the corporate environment is some sort of sick cult at this point.
You can make it so it's only visible to your connections...
It doesn't surprise me that these pieces of garbage see us this way. It says a lot about the issue of corporate cringe: for them, we are just puppets placed there for their profit and amusement.
Thats why I only work half of the actual time.
There's a reason the term 'souless corporations' exist.
Bro, the bootlicking on LinkedIn is insane. It feels like it's 1870.
I think an engineer told him no once and now he's throwing a fit.
With that last one, recently saw a video about the decline of Subway and noticed something with them as well. CEOs of these franchises all had one thing in common: loyalty. What I mean by that is that the people that made Walmart, McDonalds, Subway, iirc KFC, they all made sure to actually visit their stores and make sure things were running smoothly. They made sure their employees were taken care of, their managers were doing their jobs, the stores looked good, everything that you would want to do when your name is attached to something. When your name is attached, you don't want people to associate your name with "miserable employees and nasty store."
I wish modern CEOs would take a page out of the past CEOs books. It is their responsibility to make sure you're happy, because if you're not happy, you will leave, and that isn't a good look for your brand.
I'm a design engineer and I work from home. Luckily they closed the local office so there is no office to go to. Sales still whines about it, because me working from home doesn't allow for "in-person collaboration."
I've never understood this criticism because "collaboration" in my mind assumes useful input from sides. The problem is that Sales doesn't understand the day one basics enough to form a useful idea. Their input boils down to them shooting themselves in the foot and asking me to patch them up. I wish they would understand that the best thing they could do is to get out of my way and let me work. I'm not trying to be arrogant and difficult, but Sales interrupting Engineering all day long to put out the fires they keep setting doesn't help anyone. It was so much worse before WFH was a thing.
You need to remember that sales is just emotional and mental manipulation to achieve a goal, in this case to sell something. Do you really think that their games end at the customers?
Devs are the ones who actually got shit to do, so of course we don't wanna talk to anybody. But even if we didn't, I still wouldn't want to take time out of my day to talk to any of the other corporate simps.
I’m a nurse, with average computer skills and no programming or dev skills. Even I know the developers are some of the people in a company doing the most actual work. They’re not lifting heavy things or sweating in the heat, but even I know their work has near constant effect on a company. These CEOs are all either clueless boomers, or young people trying to mimic boomer behavior.
Back when I was in a sales class, they had a simple personality map for people. One axis was sociability, the other dominance. The quadrants being labeled Analytical, Driver, Expressive, and Amiable. Sofware devs and CEOs would be on the same side of (low) sociable, but opposites in terms of dominance. It's not surprising that a CEO would have shit opinions about his employees. They're basically sociopaths.
@americandissident9062 👏 👏 👏
Now please find a good man to go "nurse" for life. The entire Healthcare industry is about to collapse. ✌️
I think it's a Christian Nellemann problem rather than a software developer problem. I'm fairly sure not even his own family wants to talk to him.
@@americandissident9062server rooms used to be hot, loud and full of heavy equipment
I’ve known some buff IT guys back in the day.
Those CEOs should just fire all of their developers. Those guys clearly provide them nothing that the CEOs want.
Sarcasm obviously.
This sort of CEO attitude is the reason why so many big companies continue to be hacked - probably because software maintenance budgets have been slashed to pay the CEOs bonus.
Black hole of enthusiasm here: the less we’re talking, the more work we’re doing. And most of us really enjoy ENGINEERING things. So, putting it all together, we enjoy building things, and need to focus to do so.
Look at that. All you CEOs out there - I solved the mystery.
Love,
Jim, CEO/JFK/BBQ of Corncob Enterprises
@ch-yq5yn "Nobody ever figured it out all on their own"
History and reality would beg to differ with such an erroneous generalization. Just check Google scholar as a start to see how many individuals hold patents by figuring things out on their own.
“My CEO is not my proofreader… my inconsistent and incorrect use of elipses and accidental extra spaces are not his responsibility.”
"Are you sure the software developers are responsible for the mood?" 😂😂😂
"The morale in the sweatshop is awful. Just a cesspool of negativity. Obviously the workers' fault."
- Ronald C. Flanglethorpe III, CEO, winner of the self-awarded Top 100 CEOs award
Imagine being pissed off because some of us wanna come into work, put their head down, and get shit done without joining in on your "social vibe".. unbelievable.
Not long ago I had a wave of seminars for orientation in an internship role. One of the topics was on LinkedIn, and the woman giving the presentation was stressing the importance of the platform as if it’s a mandatory extension of your resume.
This nutcase was swearing every other sentence and had to be told out loud not to do that in front of 40+ interns. She also might’ve been drunk. (She had a “mild buzz” energy to her speech and movement.) Easily the least professional presenter that we had. THAT’S the caliber of person LinkedIn attracts.
It makes it more realistic, to me if someone does not swear, they are more fake.
Strangers who swear a lot, in my experience, are usually either trying to fake authenticity, or they are trying to distract from the lack of content in their speech by amping up the emphasis provided by swear words. It’s the same dynamic used by comedians to get you to laugh at something that might otherwise only get a yawn.
As a tree climbing arborist... 9 out of 10 help wanted ads for climbers- ONLY want to hire a competitor's climber. They don't want experienced unemployed climbers.
I found it off putting enough to become a competitor. It's annoying having to sell jobs instead of just working but c'est la vie!
Competition is inherently destructive. See "no contest" by Alfie Kohn
@ch-yq5ynsee red bead experiment
I have to remind my bosses they're replaceable at least twice a month. They think that they are the only manufacturing plant in Michigan, and no one else would ever hire someone with 15 years of experience, because I would want to much. I took another job making 4 more dollars an hour, then laughed at their " counter offer. I hope they never found another process tech, because they deserve to fail.
I forget LinkedIn exists until Josh posts about it. I wonder what companies would do if LinkedIn ever became nonexistent.
Nothing would fundamentally change
Mid to upper managers would have to put their self-assigned awards on their Facebook pages instead.
Really wild how people think more time = better outcomes for everything. I worked in a production (maintenance) work center and thankfully got to have a boss who when we met our goals we went home. Sometimes that meant getting a three day weekend just for being efficient. I was not in corporate, it was government, but that’s why the corporate world lacks so much incentive structure. It’s all retail and service driven.
Exactly, when everything is about time spent, people just find a way to do minimal work so they can last longer. Which only results in lower quality products and unmotivated employees.
@@skinnytimmy1 and people making busy work for other people so their management positions seem more important than they are.
Those CEOs are the people who idolize the office being some sort of Grant Cardone sales environment where people are constantly shouting, ringing bells, and high fiving.
It's essentially judeoangloamericanism. Highly toxic.
_"does it hurt, when it goes that deep"_ - that one came unexpected, i actually had to burst out a bit 😅
These "CEOs" have no clue. They have no idea who's actually doing the work.
This obsession with working tons of hours has got to stop. Why in the world would anyone be proud of either working that many hours or forcing someone else to? Grinding away day after day, hour after hour, only to be given a pat on the head and your walking papers whenever the mood strikes these sociopaths. Do any of these hours=quality or meaningful productivity junkies know that nothing you do will remain and nothing you earn can be taken with you when you die? Has the thought really never crossed their minds that their life is finite and,depending on your beliefs, also eternel in the sense that you will be judged in relation to your contribution to God's will? Hours spent piling up sand only to be washed away by the tides of time is not something to brag about.
Well said. It's pure insanity.
Absolutely. I am currently working a lot of hours, but only because I am paid for each hour.
If I wanted to, I could just bill double the amount of time and and get a lot more money. Sadly, I know several people doing exactly that.
What I usually try to do is to deliver as much value as possible. It's of course harder to put an actual price on delivered value, so that's why this work is usually paid by the hour.
The best developer is actually the one who can deliver the most value in the least amount of time.
And with that I don't just mean a lot of code or even a lot of features, but especially maintainable code. You can usually finish a feature really quickly with bad code that has no automated tests, is very hard to understand and even harder to modify without breaking anything.
That's usually what you get if you outsource your code, especially if you're relying on the one with the lowest price.
Another thing is the difference between a code monkey and a software developer.
For the code monkeys, you need to write down exactly what you want in every detail and they will deliver exactly that.
A software developer will ask you questions, try to understand the business process as good as possible and give you suggestions on possible pitfalls and improvements so that you will get more value for your money.
A lot of those bad managers only see a lot of features for a few bucks and they greedily accept the offer of the code monkeys. "They can do the same stuff for half the money!"
Then, after a few years or sometimes even after a few months, they are furious why everything starts breaking and the flow of new features becomes slower and slower.
If you want a quick prototype that will never run in production, you can of course do that.
If you want anything that has to actually be used and then keep working for more than a few months, try to find the best developers you can find.
This might look expensive in the beginning, but it's both cheaper and more productive in the long term.
I won't say that it's easy to find these good developers. Those are rare.
And if you have no one with the proper knowledge, it is also hard to distinguish the good devs from the ones who only sound good.
@ch-yq5yn Don't disagree with that at all.
@ch-yq5yninb4 growing your own food is banned like gas stoves lol. They'll take away every single one of your rights until you depend on them.
CEOs learned that return-to-office mandates didn't work, so rather than admit they were wrong, they instead say "I didn't want you here anyway software engineers!! I'M breaking up with YOU!"
CEO: "I don't have to be kind to you."
Me: "I don't have to work here."
As a lead Software Developer who has to interface with upper management it is incredibly frustrating dealing with people that have absolutely no idea how it works and think we can just magically add any feature they can dream up with a simple push of the button. It's even more frustrating explaining in great detail using simple language why we can't do it, then they say "well, I don't care how you do it just make it work" because if we don't push it out they lose their bonus.
I can guarantee you software problems and useless features are 100% caused by management pushing crappy ideas and strict deadlines on developers.
My ex was a big-time corporate lawyer who worked with several fortune 100 company CEOs. She had story after story of their arrogance, cluelessnes, and reckless incompetence. It matched my experience with management during the little bit of time I spent in the corporate world as an engineer.
7:36 **slaps**
8:08 I’m not the CEO’s punching bag, wage slave, livestock, scapegoat, etc. I don’t have to take the job seriously, I don’t have to put up with unreasonable demands, I don’t have to do more than what I am paid. I don’t need to be loyal nor hardworking for a CEO who makes in an hour what I make in a year.
You don't have to be loyal to a corporation who will ditch you in a heartbeat if it means another uptick to the bottom line (and your manager's bonus).
Exactly. I never understood why there are some people who feel a need to white knight for these companies and their CEOs.
As a CEO on LinkedIn lol, I acknowledge that success often correlates with familial advantages, emphasizing the significance of maintaining and growing inherited wealth. Success hinges on a combination of patience, luck, and strategic financial decisions, yet the inherent disparities in opportunities render it attainable for only a select few. The dynamics of success and failure underscore the reality that in the pursuit of triumph, there are inevitably those who do not prevail. Notably, within affluent families, even setbacks result in a transfer of wealth to subsequent generations.
I'm loving the Linkedin content, keep it up
You know, I am a software developer, but it's not part of my job. Sometimes I have coworkers who know of my skill that will ask me to automate a task, write a quick script, or some oddball task that their guys can't do.
And I do go to the city from time to time, to be seen, to be active, to get my lazy life going.
I am 54 and can't afford to be in the same place at once for too long anyway.
I’m a software dev and I’m not anti-social. I go out all the time and can make friends easily. I just can’t be disrupted when I’m trying to solve a problem. I’m at my desk with a hoodie and headphones on? I’m not just chillin there to avoid you. I’m trying to figure out this Eldritch error message.
Linkedin went from a good idea to some sort of facebook and now it´s getting closer to Tinder.
The pretty, dolled up HR girls everywhere aren't helping 😂
Sitting at home with a hoodie on and headphones sounds like heaven to me, that guy's totes projecting his jealousy lmao
Could be jealousy, but more likely their need to have people around them to control and/or get validation from. It is documented that the CEO mentality is often psychopathic. Psychos NEED other people around to carry out their BS.
CEOs and management are mostly parasites. They don't do real work; they don't create value. They need other people around them to simulate that they are useful and working. Their existence is a lie.
I have noticed this thing recently where i have seen companies/management look down upon software engineers even though engineers are the ones who DO the actual work!
This channel has been essential in helping me get away from the work harder / ask no questions mentality when it comes to employment. I share it any chance I get. Keep up the great work 💪
Narcissism is real in linkedin; everyone showcasing who's smarter, and wise.
Perfect, how to settle the WFH debate. Don't adhere to business dress code and take up a natural bathing routine.
Or, alternatively, use an obnoxious amount of cologne.
Nice someone who made a video on this! Ive seen so many ceos whos lost in the sauce and is out of touch with reality with their daily task is to keep their employees happy. You know the ones thats keeping their company afloat 😂
0:00 🌐 Software developers seen as lacking enthusiasm and human interaction, fit for remote work.
1:00 🏢 Negative perception of software teams impacting workplace energy and culture.
1:55 📈 CEOs and influencers dominating LinkedIn, claiming titles extensively.
3:34 ❌ Condescending attitudes towards those seeking work and hustling for opportunities.
4:54 ⏰ Startup CEO advocates long work hours for success, dismissing concerns of burnout.
6:00 🕶 Holzkern's unique products, mixing materials for sunglasses, watches, and accessories.
7:10 📽 Marketing transformation: From Maven to Artistic Soul, highlighting a short film.
8:54 🤯 Provocative posts challenging traditional corporate hierarchy and CEO perceptions.
Talk about "infecting the office with your moody gloom".
4:15 Usually when I've worked jobs where i'm doing the 80 hours a week, rather than 40. It's indicative of a ship that's crashing and burning with subpar management or a subpar product and the extra hours are simply needed to stay afloat.
Interesting point.
Quick reminder that the main reason anyone is upset by working from home is that the commercial real estate market will crash.
Now me? I think we should convert these now useless offices into residential space to combat the housing shortage.
I generally agree, but I suspect we will all discover some downsides when offices are no longer an option for us. Cottage workers were some of the most exploited workers in the early Industrial Revolution.
"At our company, you're family.... as long as you agree with everything I say as the parent without question. If you don't, I'll disown you."
Always amazes me how these so called managers spend so much time trying to develop a culture.
Most worker bees 🐝, on the other hand ✋🏻, just want to do their jobs and go home 🏡.
Yes - there is life outside of a corporation!
And they wonder why mental health is on the decline. 😳
"My top performer works 6 days a week, 90 hours!"
"BTW, we're hiring."
Of course you are, you're obviously understaffed if you can't get your work done in 40.
Strange that the CEO didn't say how much of a bonus the salesman was making from all of that revenue.
They are usually paid on commission so it could be quite a lot. It would be nice to hear.
I mean, average commission is 10-20% on profit so, easily in the hundred thousands of bonus commission unless this company is massively inefficient
I don't see why I should care more about their company than them, especially considering the fact that I am the one who gets "let go" from the "family".
So the "code talker CEO" message just screams. "I dont know how to communicate and thats on you" 😂😅
That was so cringe 😂 dude thinks he has some esoteric knowledge that we're all begging for
Bro, had to stop you right from the beginning of the video: from the experience I got, the techie part of companies seems actually the most humane. Not one person who will force a smile and be fake-happy, real buddies with whom you can share jokes that would not fly in most circumstances, and we can roast each other knowing that it means nothing on a personal level. On the other side, when it comes to who hoards the coffee pods for themselves, doesn't clean shit up behind their backs etc...
I agree, the techy and the "dirty" labour are the most human people. They will tell you the truth and be real with you. Its where the streotype of vulgar "shop talk" comes from. Because they are actually either friends or being frank with each other. No relational warfare tactics and gossip for the most part. Be nice to the people who actually make your stuff and keep it working.
LinkedIn wouldn't be so bad if it got rid of the wall posts or at least allowed users to hide them.
2:05 That's a gross misrepresentation of that argument. That person is not "laughing at" or "shaming" people who put the "looking for work" label on their profile. He is just criticising the purpose of the label.
Linkedin should really not be a necessity for any job application but the number of times interviewers ask for it is insane. I should just put a list of made-up things on there and get friends and family to pretend to be contacts or references. If people are actually doing this already i am late to the game 😅
Everybody on their is lying lmaooo don't feel bad at all
@ch-yq5yn that's why you interview them before hiring. You don't need LinkedIn to decide if you like the person
It’s funny because I told my dad about corporate cringe at the work place, and he says, “If you keep working hard and keep your mouth shut, you’ll get to where you want to be.” Or “You’ll be in a higher position in 5 years.” But here’s the thing, this boomer of a 51 year old man has been running his own franchise and hasn’t worked under anyone for 18.5 years… So when he tells people, “I worked for this company” I roll my eyes because of how out of touch he is… Never going to him for work complaints or work advice ever again…
return to office = unpaid emotional labor (and time, and wear and tear on car, and gas money, and prof clothes, and makeup, and babysitting, and road rage...)
Oh I am my CEO and he prohibits me from doing anything, that doesn't mostly benefit me or my company (family). And I obey this and only this CEO. The other bosses are just there for their own interests; I only care to receive my payment and/or raise, but I am not a slave. A job is a job, not a family.
If I'm a UX designer that has to work with software developers on the job all I need to do is just send them my notes with attached designs and ask for feedback on what works and what doesn't because we both want to get business done. Neither one of us is better or higher than the other because we're both here to get the job done. The CEO and their army of HR drones would demand things be done their way.
If you
can't write
a simple message
without double pressing enter after every sentence,
you just might be suffering from
LinkedIn brain.
LinkedIn can be a turn off. It could be the tyranny of an extrovert. If you understand what I mean. Well I prefer to stick to trading the financial market. Who trades the financial market?
Yeah i understand what you mean and it can be a turn off. I trade the financial market. Which aspect of the financial market are you referring to?
I was referring to the stock market. I was profitable from Nvidia this year. Solana spiked recently and I’m planning on purchasing some tech stocks and Ev stocks but I’m willing to try out other financial market. How do you trade?
Nvidia was superb this year. I also traded Apple. I trade based on the season of the market. It gives me a direction on implementing the right strategies for long or short term. I also trade based on the volatility of the market. Although it wasn’t easy till I came across a mentor who helped to keep me in the market loop. My mentor is Bernard Paul.
Paul is also my mentor and I’ve gained valuable insights from Paul and learnt about taking effective trade execution, optimising entry and exit points for better profitability
Nvidia was superb, Apple was also good for long term! I also traded the crypto market. Paul been helpful in keeping me in the loop.
Can you imagine denigrating someone for focusing at work? Yeah, screw you software engineers trying to focus on work rather than being distracted ¿
Good observations and points. Some of the best points by you, Joshua, are at about 3:59 . Thanks for analysis on certain corporate behavior which can help even bigger research. Like the research of what not to do, and hopefully what to do.
"I'm overtly overly toxic and demeaning to people, get paid x5-x20 more than everyone, but I wonder why my developers don't like me." - CEO
I'm a data scientist and I'm used to disrespect and misunderstanding of my profession coming from the seniority level. Also, I think they think they can do my job easily because I came in without knowing anything. The difference is that I haven't stopped learning a single day after hours. Unlike them they just do their job and presume they work hard, which is so cringy 😂
I relate to this deeply, bless you bro
1:59 Literally this, the "charismatic" chaotic unorganised CEO thinking he adds to the mood
The typical software developer is intently focused on, you know, developing software. Excuse us for not being social butterflies.