Notice how the CEO, who praises his star worker who works 90 hours a week, says NOTHING about how much the employee is compensated. "Who needs paid? We're family."
That's right: why make seven million dollars annually on your own (working for yourself--with the skills you so obviously have that even your boss admits to depending upon them--thus freed from the "revolutionary" open-space office while setting your own hours and level of productivity) when you can make $15 an hour at 90 hours a week and spiral into exhaustion and burnout just to make your blowhard boss rich?
That is messed up. That man is being slaved away and when he gets tired out he will be replaced because productivity is falling. US work culture is toxic is F.
Every office I've worked at, they always say, 'We're a big family here.' And it does motivate people to work harder, & neglect their actual families, & put up with all sorts of degrading shit." ~ Colin Robinson
It’s because there’s no repercussions for those with specific views to get as political as they want, and they also tend to do it under the guise of ‘being brave.’ Those of us that have views slightly different from corporate approved ones have to bite our tongues. LinkedIn has actually created one of the most insidious echo chambers. At least on Twitter and other ones there is some form of opposition allowed to speak. I had to delete the app so now I only see something briefly when I use my LinkedIn for my actual job. These people go unchecked completely on LinkedIn. And if you do, they’ll have no problem trying to get you fired.
Yes. If you people have to work more than 45 hours a week, there are some serious project management issues that need to be addressed. The more hours the developers work, the more mistakes they make because they are tired. It only takes 3 months of that horrid pace to burn out developers. For some, they bounce back over a long weekend. Others take a month or more to bounce back. Humans are not appliances that you plug in. We are not digital, we are analog beings. We work in cycles.
@@bitmanagent67It can be Due to lack of employees But there are 2 others reason as to why Unrealistic Timetables Excessive micromanagement Often times. The product leads set completely unrealistic goals. Underestimating the amount of work required for a project and sometimes They may be far to busy interrupting everything with useless meetings are other "company events" that the engineers spend more time doing anything But their job
It is genuinely funny to see a 'CEO' refer to software developers as essentially useless when the software developers are either creating/maintaining/supporting a product while the CEO's job is basically be charismatic, delegate to others and just pretend like you know what you're doing.
@@JeffCaplan313 Exactly, rich people define, to some extent, what's supposed to be charismatic and poor people have to either follow, or keep on being poor/die of poverty related causes...
@JeffCaplan313 hence the low pay. Could you imagine if a software developer got time/moneyto live a positive lifestyle that only enhances their charisma and gives energy to reflect on future prospects? They would be fucking unstoppable. I mean just look at Johnny Silverhands GF. And she was just hot with like a in 5 charisma.
@@reasonwarriorIf I told y'all who theorized over that exact same physical and spiritual disgust, albeit with slightly different words and more than a hundred years ago, some might probably don't believe me.
That last guy is basically the owner of the small construction company I work for. I was told 'Buy a dog if you want a friend' regarding his very abusive and poor behavior. I responded with 'Buy a dog if you want loyalty'. Seems like a good idea to run off your top talent and highest contributors for no real reason, and lose all of the institutional knowledge your company has. It's like they think they're feudal lords and that we're serfs, unable to leave when we're abused. They're your boss, not your owner.
This is the real reason they want the non-compete agreements. They want massive contractual penalties for your leaving, without any for them making you leave.
Being polite and decent does not require to be friends. Look at the conversation between Neo and Agent Smith after the latter bragged about no longer being part of the system, right before their final clash ("thank you", "you're welcome"). Being boss is not an excuse for being an asshole.
Being a decent human is also better for profits... These people are so power and money hungry they've forgotten how business works. It doesn't matter how good your product is, if you're enough of a jerk, I'm not doing business with you.
Software development is not a very fun profession, and the toxic corporate work culture just makes it worse. Unlike many useless corporate roles, it gets noticed pretty quickly when a developer isn't working. Sorry we can't be extroverted yuppies who waste most of our days chatting and appearing busy.
I've met a lot of software guys who jumped to IT just to get their work/life balance back because IT can just fuck off and as long as things are running okay no one notices.
@@IPODsify Mandatory fun! Team-building! Smile! Be present! Bring the real you! The real me feels violently sick whenever someone starts talking about "culture".
I don't know... I wouldn't consider myself an introvert. That's why I definitely go to in person meetings, that happen once a month or every few months. That's about as often I'd come into the office. My employer knows that and since I am not only developing stuff, but also developing teams and processes along with the customer, and the customer is happy and gladly extends the contracts every time, I must be doing something right. And that's even though sometimes I just work half the time. I also like to help my colleagues by reviewing their stuff or helping in some specific architectural problems, but I don't really care about their personal lives. And I don't expect them to care about mine either. It's work. And it's working out so far, though had I been a bit more ruthless, I'd certainly be earning more money by now and in the end my working hours and the salary are the two reasons I even do the job. Sure, a nice team makes things easier, but it's not the top priority.
@@me0101001000 the only thing more dangerous is the Engineer who is friends with his technicians and machinists. Not only does he have the knowledge of how to design and destroy you, he has the man to make it a reality too.
I'm personally sick and tired of companies trying to instill a corporate culture. I have my own culture, I don't need your or want yours. I don't want to be part of your corporate family, it's not a family, we are treated like family, your job isn't the center of my life and never will be. I'm here to do the job and only the job I agreed to. If you want more, you need to pay more. I am not invested in the company success. Why should I be? the company isn't invested in me. I'll get laid off as soon as the company beleives it can boost profits by laying me off. Corporate hypocrisy is out of control.
The current system is engineered to be the way that it is. It wasn't an accident. Companies no longer have to compete for good workers due to several factors. Mega mergers, outsourcing and "softening the labor market" (intentionally increasing the unemployment rate) to name a few. That means poor work conditions and pay, along with higher profits for the few at the top. You're right, though. Desperate people will work themselves literally to death to keep food in their childrens' mouths. That's the whole point. Stop defending this broken system and keep your soul intact. @ch-yq5yn
@ch-yq5yn Did you read his message? He's not talking about not working. He's talking about not being part of the stupid, artificially imposed "culture" that so many companies feel the need to impose.
@ch-yq5yn Funny how "make yourself valuable enough that you can't be fired" is often misinterpreted. "Write clean, efficient and maintainable code" becomes "Write unmaintainable Eldritch abomination code that the company's entire tech stack depends on." The one losing to competition is not the one deserving it in this case
Sad that these outsourced “recruiters” from India destroyed the IT job search. It’s nothing but resume harvesting with fake openings and getting more spam emails than usual.
That's not even the worst of it. It's full of buttkissing corporate rats posting feel good nonsense about teamwork and family while they ruthlessly count beans at the office.
That CEO has serious mental issues. The poor baby isn't constantly the center of attention because his mean software engineers are too busy working. I'm sure that company will be a big success with a CEO that has the mind and self-awareness level of a 10 year old, that thinks workers are to make them feel like a special boy or girl. His parents must have not given him enough hugs. I don't think his investors will be giving him many once he drives their investment into the ground either. He's the product of advancement being based on who is the best sycophant and bullshit talker.
Imagine being angry at your workers for doing what you pay them for instead of wasting everyone else's time and money like you (an incompetent CEO) do. I'd rather sit mostly in silence only talking to others about issues related to current tasks (and maybe chit chat a bit during break) but be a part of competent team than waste half the time chatting about unrelated crap that completely destroys efficiency of second half dedicated to work (remember that software engineerign is very focus-centric job)
My wife is forced to work 6 days a week since it's the only job locally she could find that pays well, but now she's sick and has a whole ONE sick day a year. She burnt it up and is now dragging herself into work today and tomorrow. She woke up crying yesterday just wanting to stay home and rest. Fuck this evil country and it's treatment of workers.
As a software developer let me say that I'm very happy I work from home surrounded by my kitties and don't give a duck for what any edgy trendy CEO thinks of me.
Maybe, just maybe, software devs stick to themselves and get annoyed when they are disrupted because the CEO and sales type only think of us as magical unicorns that poop out working code on command. If you want developers to contribute to “Company Culture” consider recognizing and respecting their efforts without constantly overloading them with unrealistic deadlines????
Oh well, I am at a point, where I tell them to check my scrum board and add to it and prioritize things on it and not bother me otherwise. Then again if I leave, they'll be with no support or line function left AND I bring in the experience to work with other architects to develop proof of concept implementations and such. While I did train a colleague to be able to carry out most of the support tasks, sometimes he's lost, too (he's relatively junior, but he's doing awesome for a junior dev), and that's usually where I come in and find out what even needs fixing and if it's even our program malfunctioning.
I've seen good company culture. Good company culture looks like adults treating each other like adults. There's no artificial HR corporate BS about it. There's just "hey, we've got this problem, you're the guy to fix it. What do you need from me to get you started/unstuck?" and "Hey, I'm working on solving your problem, I've got a few concepts but I want this bit here clarified so I can pick which one to go with. Can you clear this up for me?" And that's it. That's a great workplace.
As an embedded engineer, non-tech people drive me insane because they constantly interrupt me while I'm deep in concentration. And they want is some BS but they think it's important and top priority.
In other words, the CEO is displeased that one group of employees have something better to do (i.e. productive work) vs. flattering his ego at every turn. Absolutely cringeworthy. That he feels free to post about it like this is really telling about the current state of the "corporate wotld."
People from the older generation, who were paid to live well with only one person's job in work, think its okay to berate and disrespect employees, likely because they were paid so well to take it. Nobody has ever paid me that well, and if someone's putting their work in my hands, showing me disrespect isn't going to do your business any favors.
It was also the case that a lot of times the skill they had was something very basic, something relatively straight forward. You cannot get a job today because you can type, fill out excel forms or pick up the phone and talk to customers.
Agreed, except that I think you thinking of the 50s when you talk about being paid so that your family could live comfortably on one salary. People who experienced that haven’t been in the workforce for a very long time.
I remember one time casually mentioning how I don't like LinkedIn for having to put my picture and entire professional and academic history for literally everybody on the internet to see.. and boy the look i got from people around.
Did they point and starting screaming, "Heretic! Not one of us! Not one of us!"? I swear, the corporate environment is some sort of sick cult at this point.
Notice how a CEO is a boss and not a leader, the difference is a boss will sit back and point at what he wants done, a leader is part of the team heading in the direction you need to go.
I'm a design engineer and I work from home. Luckily they closed the local office so there is no office to go to. Sales still whines about it, because me working from home doesn't allow for "in-person collaboration." I've never understood this criticism because "collaboration" in my mind assumes useful input from sides. The problem is that Sales doesn't understand the day one basics enough to form a useful idea. Their input boils down to them shooting themselves in the foot and asking me to patch them up. I wish they would understand that the best thing they could do is to get out of my way and let me work. I'm not trying to be arrogant and difficult, but Sales interrupting Engineering all day long to put out the fires they keep setting doesn't help anyone. It was so much worse before WFH was a thing.
You need to remember that sales is just emotional and mental manipulation to achieve a goal, in this case to sell something. Do you really think that their games end at the customers?
With that last one, recently saw a video about the decline of Subway and noticed something with them as well. CEOs of these franchises all had one thing in common: loyalty. What I mean by that is that the people that made Walmart, McDonalds, Subway, iirc KFC, they all made sure to actually visit their stores and make sure things were running smoothly. They made sure their employees were taken care of, their managers were doing their jobs, the stores looked good, everything that you would want to do when your name is attached to something. When your name is attached, you don't want people to associate your name with "miserable employees and nasty store." I wish modern CEOs would take a page out of the past CEOs books. It is their responsibility to make sure you're happy, because if you're not happy, you will leave, and that isn't a good look for your brand.
Black hole of enthusiasm here: the less we’re talking, the more work we’re doing. And most of us really enjoy ENGINEERING things. So, putting it all together, we enjoy building things, and need to focus to do so. Look at that. All you CEOs out there - I solved the mystery. Love, Jim, CEO/JFK/BBQ of Corncob Enterprises
@ch-yq5yn "Nobody ever figured it out all on their own" History and reality would beg to differ with such an erroneous generalization. Just check Google scholar as a start to see how many individuals hold patents by figuring things out on their own.
Devs are the ones who actually got shit to do, so of course we don't wanna talk to anybody. But even if we didn't, I still wouldn't want to take time out of my day to talk to any of the other corporate simps.
I’m a nurse, with average computer skills and no programming or dev skills. Even I know the developers are some of the people in a company doing the most actual work. They’re not lifting heavy things or sweating in the heat, but even I know their work has near constant effect on a company. These CEOs are all either clueless boomers, or young people trying to mimic boomer behavior.
Back when I was in a sales class, they had a simple personality map for people. One axis was sociability, the other dominance. The quadrants being labeled Analytical, Driver, Expressive, and Amiable. Sofware devs and CEOs would be on the same side of (low) sociable, but opposites in terms of dominance. It's not surprising that a CEO would have shit opinions about his employees. They're basically sociopaths.
Not long ago I had a wave of seminars for orientation in an internship role. One of the topics was on LinkedIn, and the woman giving the presentation was stressing the importance of the platform as if it’s a mandatory extension of your resume. This nutcase was swearing every other sentence and had to be told out loud not to do that in front of 40+ interns. She also might’ve been drunk. (She had a “mild buzz” energy to her speech and movement.) Easily the least professional presenter that we had. THAT’S the caliber of person LinkedIn attracts.
Strangers who swear a lot, in my experience, are usually either trying to fake authenticity, or they are trying to distract from the lack of content in their speech by amping up the emphasis provided by swear words. It’s the same dynamic used by comedians to get you to laugh at something that might otherwise only get a yawn.
As a tree climbing arborist... 9 out of 10 help wanted ads for climbers- ONLY want to hire a competitor's climber. They don't want experienced unemployed climbers. I found it off putting enough to become a competitor. It's annoying having to sell jobs instead of just working but c'est la vie!
Those CEOs are the people who idolize the office being some sort of Grant Cardone sales environment where people are constantly shouting, ringing bells, and high fiving.
I have to remind my bosses they're replaceable at least twice a month. They think that they are the only manufacturing plant in Michigan, and no one else would ever hire someone with 15 years of experience, because I would want to much. I took another job making 4 more dollars an hour, then laughed at their " counter offer. I hope they never found another process tech, because they deserve to fail.
Really wild how people think more time = better outcomes for everything. I worked in a production (maintenance) work center and thankfully got to have a boss who when we met our goals we went home. Sometimes that meant getting a three day weekend just for being efficient. I was not in corporate, it was government, but that’s why the corporate world lacks so much incentive structure. It’s all retail and service driven.
Exactly, when everything is about time spent, people just find a way to do minimal work so they can last longer. Which only results in lower quality products and unmotivated employees.
Could be jealousy, but more likely their need to have people around them to control and/or get validation from. It is documented that the CEO mentality is often psychopathic. Psychos NEED other people around to carry out their BS.
CEOs and management are mostly parasites. They don't do real work; they don't create value. They need other people around them to simulate that they are useful and working. Their existence is a lie.
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I’m a software dev and I’m not anti-social. I go out all the time and can make friends easily. I just can’t be disrupted when I’m trying to solve a problem. I’m at my desk with a hoodie and headphones on? I’m not just chillin there to avoid you. I’m trying to figure out this Eldritch error message.
You know, I am a software developer, but it's not part of my job. Sometimes I have coworkers who know of my skill that will ask me to automate a task, write a quick script, or some oddball task that their guys can't do. And I do go to the city from time to time, to be seen, to be active, to get my lazy life going. I am 54 and can't afford to be in the same place at once for too long anyway.
CEOs learned that return-to-office mandates didn't work, so rather than admit they were wrong, they instead say "I didn't want you here anyway software engineers!! I'M breaking up with YOU!"
My ex was a big-time corporate lawyer who worked with several fortune 100 company CEOs. She had story after story of their arrogance, cluelessnes, and reckless incompetence. It matched my experience with management during the little bit of time I spent in the corporate world as an engineer.
return to office = unpaid emotional labor (and time, and wear and tear on car, and gas money, and prof clothes, and makeup, and babysitting, and road rage...)
Linkedin should really not be a necessity for any job application but the number of times interviewers ask for it is insane. I should just put a list of made-up things on there and get friends and family to pretend to be contacts or references. If people are actually doing this already i am late to the game 😅
Bro, had to stop you right from the beginning of the video: from the experience I got, the techie part of companies seems actually the most humane. Not one person who will force a smile and be fake-happy, real buddies with whom you can share jokes that would not fly in most circumstances, and we can roast each other knowing that it means nothing on a personal level. On the other side, when it comes to who hoards the coffee pods for themselves, doesn't clean shit up behind their backs etc...
I agree, the techy and the "dirty" labour are the most human people. They will tell you the truth and be real with you. Its where the streotype of vulgar "shop talk" comes from. Because they are actually either friends or being frank with each other. No relational warfare tactics and gossip for the most part. Be nice to the people who actually make your stuff and keep it working.
Nice someone who made a video on this! Ive seen so many ceos whos lost in the sauce and is out of touch with reality with their daily task is to keep their employees happy. You know the ones thats keeping their company afloat 😂
I'm a data scientist and I'm used to disrespect and misunderstanding of my profession coming from the seniority level. Also, I think they think they can do my job easily because I came in without knowing anything. The difference is that I haven't stopped learning a single day after hours. Unlike them they just do their job and presume they work hard, which is so cringy 😂
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I absolutely hate LinkedIn😂😂😂, the lies and fake niceness gets me. I have had the displeasure of meeting & working for some of the thought leaders in my country in person...they are actually HORRIBLE people and not nice as they project themselves to be.
Oh I am my CEO and he prohibits me from doing anything, that doesn't mostly benefit me or my company (family). And I obey this and only this CEO. The other bosses are just there for their own interests; I only care to receive my payment and/or raise, but I am not a slave. A job is a job, not a family.
4:15 Usually when I've worked jobs where i'm doing the 80 hours a week, rather than 40. It's indicative of a ship that's crashing and burning with subpar management or a subpar product and the extra hours are simply needed to stay afloat.
I'm wondering if there is a shorting opportunity by checking how many and how much employees are burnt out and how many yes men there are in a company and time the market when they inevitable fail to keep there numbers up. Yes men never do any work. If they did they wouldn't need to be yes men.
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It’s funny because I told my dad about corporate cringe at the work place, and he says, “If you keep working hard and keep your mouth shut, you’ll get to where you want to be.” Or “You’ll be in a higher position in 5 years.” But here’s the thing, this boomer of a 51 year old man has been running his own franchise and hasn’t worked under anyone for 18.5 years… So when he tells people, “I worked for this company” I roll my eyes because of how out of touch he is… Never going to him for work complaints or work advice ever again…
It is the same people who think we will be more productive in a room with 200 other people and constantly being disturbed. So sorry if you hunker down with noise cancelling headphones on to get peace and quiet to work.
"Software developers contribute nothing for the greater good", literally sending that message from a phone that is only possible because of devs, through a global network that works because of devs, to a million other devices that only work because of devs. Sure buddy.
Well I would never go out of my way to post something on LinkedIn regarding my CEOs role, I do agree with the part where they're niether my therapist nor there to be my friend. I'm there to do a job and get paid. Opening that door gives them access to my personal life which I don't want them to have.
Worked with a software vendor where the founder CEO was still a semi-active developer. He had jumped into a product demo with us, a large customer and was showing off the latest version of their software. It was cool but it was funny when he showed an unreleased feature and we were like “when can we get that?”. He was like oops, thats my private dev environment…😂
First post sounds to me like the devs are actually doing their job while the ceo and others are socializing, wasting time and money. I think I understand why the devs prefer working from home... nothing more annoying than people slacking off and distracting you when you're doing work. I honestly think this "CEO" is not fit to be in any kind of management position.
Good observations and points. Some of the best points by you, Joshua, are at about 3:59 . Thanks for analysis on certain corporate behavior which can help even bigger research. Like the research of what not to do, and hopefully what to do.
"My top performer works 6 days a week, 90 hours!" "BTW, we're hiring." Of course you are, you're obviously understaffed if you can't get your work done in 40.
These CEOs are the types to like Zom100 before the outbrake and would praise the depiction of "dedication", all notions of it be abusive go completely unnoticed.
If my business starts asking me to contribute to "the culture" I'm leaving immedietly. You asked me to pick up the phone and get yelled at all day. Of course I'm not happy after an 11 hour work day
From my experience, it's best if you have the software developers personally talking with the people who actually want and will use the software. No layers between. Not even the people PAYING for the software or "managing" its development. The result will be software that the people using it will f$#@ing love, and developers who are proud to see that people love what they made. Siloing your software people guarantees crappy products that nobody actually wants, but that MANAGERS can feel like they did something big and shoot for promotions based off of.
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As as (former) software developer, I am so very glad to be retired and finally out of the myopic and malignant world of corporate NPCs. I loved developing software. I did not love the blind, fumbling, arrogant nonsense that passed for most corporate leadership.
I was an All Star on LinkedIn with 500+ connections, 10 years on there, 40+ endorsements for multiple top skills and I got banned for commenting (I think) about either Communism or Biden's vax mandate. They would put Liberal comments right in your face and if you replied those people could report you. I never went back. Got several other jobs in the 2 years since (contractor).
CEOs don’t see overworking people as having diminishing returns. The way their minds work, it will always have increasing returns, just based upon it being an ego boost, that they have the power to lean on people. Some of those CEOs have no calculable idea what the actual financial worth is of overworking people. It’s about ego and power. Or you can say it’s about stupidity.
Working is working (out). At some point, your muscles are done. It doesn't matter if your mind isn't done. It doesn't matter if it hasn't been X time. You're done.
I'm getting serious OT since my employer was threatened with a major lawsuit last year over unpaid wages. Nevertheless, I'm nearly 55 and this last year I developed sciatica. 90 hours per week? Forget it. 60 can put you in the hospital, more can put you in the ground. What will they say then? "He was a hard worker, but died so young he actually grossed less than the rest of us"???
I'm sure the mood in the dev team is really good until this CEO shows up at the team. He can be lucky that his dev team is non responsive goo because if they responded to him it would not be pretty. If devs react to you like this they have really good reason to do so.
I think that first loser CEO is one of those that needs help to put an attachment in a mail... and that three times an hour. I've known several like that and yeah, I'd put my earphones in, avoid eyecontact and pretend I didn't hear them... like having a baby that needs a diaper change, dammit.
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Notice how the CEO, who praises his star worker who works 90 hours a week, says NOTHING about how much the employee is compensated. "Who needs paid? We're family."
"family' until the CEO/company kicks you out of the house/company.
That's right: why make seven million dollars annually on your own (working for yourself--with the skills you so obviously have that even your boss admits to depending upon them--thus freed from the "revolutionary" open-space office while setting your own hours and level of productivity) when you can make $15 an hour at 90 hours a week and spiral into exhaustion and burnout just to make your blowhard boss rich?
That is messed up. That man is being slaved away and when he gets tired out he will be replaced because productivity is falling. US work culture is toxic is F.
These CEOs don't have lives outside of work.
Every office I've worked at, they always say, 'We're a big family here.' And it does motivate people to work harder, & neglect their actual families, & put up with all sorts of degrading shit." ~ Colin Robinson
LinkedIn is so cringe, I have to show so much restraint from just roasting every post I see.
The political takes are what infuriate me. They're either bad, or completely head-in-ass awful. Lots of boot licking. Zero dignity.
That’s why I deleted the app from my phone.
It’s because there’s no repercussions for those with specific views to get as political as they want, and they also tend to do it under the guise of ‘being brave.’
Those of us that have views slightly different from corporate approved ones have to bite our tongues. LinkedIn has actually created one of the most insidious echo chambers. At least on Twitter and other ones there is some form of opposition allowed to speak.
I had to delete the app so now I only see something briefly when I use my LinkedIn for my actual job. These people go unchecked completely on LinkedIn. And if you do, they’ll have no problem trying to get you fired.
I tell them i don't put my personal info on the internet @TrueWolf111
@TrueWolf111 My employer said I should update my LinkedIn. Like the previous guy said, I'm only interested in doing my work well and going home.
If your employees are working 80 hours a week, you need to double your workforce.
They only get it after said employees leaves them...
Yes. If you people have to work more than 45 hours a week, there are some serious project management issues that need to be addressed. The more hours the developers work, the more mistakes they make because they are tired. It only takes 3 months of that horrid pace to burn out developers. For some, they bounce back over a long weekend. Others take a month or more to bounce back. Humans are not appliances that you plug in. We are not digital, we are analog beings. We work in cycles.
Nope. People need to be too busy working to realize they can start their own company.
Or halve your scope. Or delay your product. But nah, let's just keep doing the dumbest thing possible.
@@bitmanagent67It can be Due to lack of employees But there are 2 others reason as to why
Unrealistic Timetables
Excessive micromanagement
Often times. The product leads set completely unrealistic goals. Underestimating the amount of work required for a project and sometimes They may be far to busy interrupting everything with useless meetings are other "company events" that the engineers spend more time doing anything But their job
It is genuinely funny to see a 'CEO' refer to software developers as essentially useless when the software developers are either creating/maintaining/supporting a product while the CEO's job is basically be charismatic, delegate to others and just pretend like you know what you're doing.
Being charismatic is a lot of work when you're poor.
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@@JeffCaplan313 Exactly, rich people define, to some extent, what's supposed to be charismatic and poor people have to either follow, or keep on being poor/die of poverty related causes...
It would be funny if all that company's software developers quit and he had to find out how valuable they really are.
@JeffCaplan313 hence the low pay.
Could you imagine if a software developer got time/moneyto live a positive lifestyle that only enhances their charisma and gives energy to reflect on future prospects?
They would be fucking unstoppable. I mean just look at Johnny Silverhands GF.
And she was just hot with like a in 5 charisma.
These are the people "NO ONE WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE"
No one wants to work for you anymore.
Yeah, they should take it personal😁
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I sometimes wonder if the people who regularly use Linkedin are even real humans at this point.
Ripley : You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see [AI] fkg each other over for a goddamn percentage.
They're only physically human. I'm not so certain about the rest.
Agree. I feel some of the comments are too generic and fake to to be humans. Almost like bots or something similar.
It's a strange phenomenon but for some reason when I attempt to scroll Linkedin I always end up being physically and spiritually disgusted.
@@reasonwarriorIf I told y'all who theorized over that exact same physical and spiritual disgust, albeit with slightly different words and more than a hundred years ago, some might probably don't believe me.
Imagine having an employee working double time, bringing in 7M, and you still refusing to hire someone to cut his workload in half.
I bet he doesn’t get much of a raise or bonus of any kind as well
That last guy is basically the owner of the small construction company I work for.
I was told 'Buy a dog if you want a friend' regarding his very abusive and poor behavior. I responded with 'Buy a dog if you want loyalty'.
Seems like a good idea to run off your top talent and highest contributors for no real reason, and lose all of the institutional knowledge your company has. It's like they think they're feudal lords and that we're serfs, unable to leave when we're abused. They're your boss, not your owner.
This is the real reason they want the non-compete agreements. They want massive contractual penalties for your leaving, without any for them making you leave.
Being polite and decent does not require to be friends. Look at the conversation between Neo and Agent Smith after the latter bragged about no longer being part of the system, right before their final clash ("thank you", "you're welcome").
Being boss is not an excuse for being an asshole.
Being a decent human is also better for profits...
These people are so power and money hungry they've forgotten how business works. It doesn't matter how good your product is, if you're enough of a jerk, I'm not doing business with you.
Software development is not a very fun profession, and the toxic corporate work culture just makes it worse. Unlike many useless corporate roles, it gets noticed pretty quickly when a developer isn't working. Sorry we can't be extroverted yuppies who waste most of our days chatting and appearing busy.
I've met a lot of software guys who jumped to IT just to get their work/life balance back because IT can just fuck off and as long as things are running okay no one notices.
Dude like who the fuck cares about the work culture? Like let me do my job and go home
@@IPODsify Leaving you alone to do your job and go home is part of a work culture. Bad work cultures don't let us do that.
@@IPODsify Mandatory fun! Team-building! Smile! Be present! Bring the real you!
The real me feels violently sick whenever someone starts talking about "culture".
I don't know... I wouldn't consider myself an introvert. That's why I definitely go to in person meetings, that happen once a month or every few months. That's about as often I'd come into the office. My employer knows that and since I am not only developing stuff, but also developing teams and processes along with the customer, and the customer is happy and gladly extends the contracts every time, I must be doing something right. And that's even though sometimes I just work half the time.
I also like to help my colleagues by reviewing their stuff or helping in some specific architectural problems, but I don't really care about their personal lives. And I don't expect them to care about mine either.
It's work. And it's working out so far, though had I been a bit more ruthless, I'd certainly be earning more money by now and in the end my working hours and the salary are the two reasons I even do the job. Sure, a nice team makes things easier, but it's not the top priority.
Lol I haven't heard "engineers are dirty nerds eeew" for a while, this guy time travelled from 1995
Engineers are smart and hardworking people. Picking a fight with someone like that is tickling a dragon's tail.
Devs in 1995? Devs were like 0.5% of your payroll back then, now it's like 10%
@@me0101001000 the only thing more dangerous is the Engineer who is friends with his technicians and machinists. Not only does he have the knowledge of how to design and destroy you, he has the man to make it a reality too.
more like his brain is stuck in high school.
These people's only job is to be well-connected and they confuse that with intelligence.
I'm personally sick and tired of companies trying to instill a corporate culture. I have my own culture, I don't need your or want yours. I don't want to be part of your corporate family, it's not a family, we are treated like family, your job isn't the center of my life and never will be. I'm here to do the job and only the job I agreed to. If you want more, you need to pay more. I am not invested in the company success. Why should I be? the company isn't invested in me. I'll get laid off as soon as the company beleives it can boost profits by laying me off. Corporate hypocrisy is out of control.
The current system is engineered to be the way that it is. It wasn't an accident. Companies no longer have to compete for good workers due to several factors. Mega mergers, outsourcing and "softening the labor market" (intentionally increasing the unemployment rate) to name a few. That means poor work conditions and pay, along with higher profits for the few at the top. You're right, though. Desperate people will work themselves literally to death to keep food in their childrens' mouths. That's the whole point. Stop defending this broken system and keep your soul intact. @ch-yq5yn
@ch-yq5yn Did you read his message? He's not talking about not working. He's talking about not being part of the stupid, artificially imposed "culture" that so many companies feel the need to impose.
@ch-yq5yn found the corporate simp!
@ch-yq5yn Funny how "make yourself valuable enough that you can't be fired" is often misinterpreted.
"Write clean, efficient and maintainable code"
becomes
"Write unmaintainable Eldritch abomination code that the company's entire tech stack depends on."
The one losing to competition is not the one deserving it in this case
All these "networking" and job sites are dumpster fires. Rife with misleading listings and scam ads. I'll be happy to see them eventually fail.
Yea, it is absurd how bad they are. The amount of scamming, lying, and cheating is unreal.
Sad that these outsourced “recruiters” from India destroyed the IT job search. It’s nothing but resume harvesting with fake openings and getting more spam emails than usual.
That's not even the worst of it. It's full of buttkissing corporate rats posting feel good nonsense about teamwork and family while they ruthlessly count beans at the office.
Better to apply directly than waste time going on job sites.
@@tunebeat3809Too bad most fucking jobs are the website now are days.
The CEO's basically complaining that his software engineers are too engrossed in their work to entertain him.
They might as well just shout, "DANCE MONKEY". same vibe.
Well said, exactly. You must pay homage lol.
These kinds of CEOs sound like teenage attention whores who have never written code or built an application in their entire life.
That CEO has serious mental issues. The poor baby isn't constantly the center of attention because his mean software engineers are too busy working. I'm sure that company will be a big success with a CEO that has the mind and self-awareness level of a 10 year old, that thinks workers are to make them feel like a special boy or girl. His parents must have not given him enough hugs. I don't think his investors will be giving him many once he drives their investment into the ground either. He's the product of advancement being based on who is the best sycophant and bullshit talker.
Imagine being angry at your workers for doing what you pay them for instead of wasting everyone else's time and money like you (an incompetent CEO) do.
I'd rather sit mostly in silence only talking to others about issues related to current tasks (and maybe chit chat a bit during break) but be a part of competent team than waste half the time chatting about unrelated crap that completely destroys efficiency of second half dedicated to work (remember that software engineerign is very focus-centric job)
My wife is forced to work 6 days a week since it's the only job locally she could find that pays well, but now she's sick and has a whole ONE sick day a year. She burnt it up and is now dragging herself into work today and tomorrow. She woke up crying yesterday just wanting to stay home and rest. Fuck this evil country and it's treatment of workers.
Did you say one day of PTO...?
Funny part is, I am ok with this. IDGAF what they think so long as they pay me from home. I had zero intention of meeting them anyway
And while they waste their lives at the office, I only work 4 hours from home and the rest I actually live my life.
If this is how they view people, we're better off away from such judgemental and pretentious people
With the added bonus of not dealing with office politics or the probability of getting Me-Alsoed.
As a software developer let me say that I'm very happy I work from home surrounded by my kitties and don't give a duck for what any edgy trendy CEO thinks of me.
Maybe, just maybe, software devs stick to themselves and get annoyed when they are disrupted because the CEO and sales type only think of us as magical unicorns that poop out working code on command. If you want developers to contribute to “Company Culture” consider recognizing and respecting their efforts without constantly overloading them with unrealistic deadlines????
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They always pop in when you get a bunch of p1 reports on a Friday.
It's like dude, my Adderall is already wearing off. Don't kill my vibe.
Oh well, I am at a point, where I tell them to check my scrum board and add to it and prioritize things on it and not bother me otherwise. Then again if I leave, they'll be with no support or line function left AND I bring in the experience to work with other architects to develop proof of concept implementations and such. While I did train a colleague to be able to carry out most of the support tasks, sometimes he's lost, too (he's relatively junior, but he's doing awesome for a junior dev), and that's usually where I come in and find out what even needs fixing and if it's even our program malfunctioning.
I've seen good company culture. Good company culture looks like adults treating each other like adults. There's no artificial HR corporate BS about it. There's just "hey, we've got this problem, you're the guy to fix it. What do you need from me to get you started/unstuck?" and "Hey, I'm working on solving your problem, I've got a few concepts but I want this bit here clarified so I can pick which one to go with. Can you clear this up for me?" And that's it. That's a great workplace.
@@doughboy_6439 could not agree more. This is exactly what a healthy work culture looks like and man is it nice when things work like this
As an embedded engineer, non-tech people drive me insane because they constantly interrupt me while I'm deep in concentration. And they want is some BS but they think it's important and top priority.
Bro, the bootlicking on LinkedIn is insane. It feels like it's 1870.
I think an engineer told him no once and now he's throwing a fit.
In other words, the CEO is displeased that one group of employees have something better to do (i.e. productive work) vs. flattering his ego at every turn. Absolutely cringeworthy. That he feels free to post about it like this is really telling about the current state of the "corporate wotld."
People from the older generation, who were paid to live well with only one person's job in work, think its okay to berate and disrespect employees, likely because they were paid so well to take it. Nobody has ever paid me that well, and if someone's putting their work in my hands, showing me disrespect isn't going to do your business any favors.
It was also the case that a lot of times the skill they had was something very basic, something relatively straight forward. You cannot get a job today because you can type, fill out excel forms or pick up the phone and talk to customers.
Agreed, except that I think you thinking of the 50s when you talk about being paid so that your family could live comfortably on one salary. People who experienced that haven’t been in the workforce for a very long time.
I remember one time casually mentioning how I don't like LinkedIn for having to put my picture and entire professional and academic history for literally everybody on the internet to see.. and boy the look i got from people around.
Did they point and starting screaming, "Heretic! Not one of us! Not one of us!"? I swear, the corporate environment is some sort of sick cult at this point.
You can make it so it's only visible to your connections...
Notice how a CEO is a boss and not a leader, the difference is a boss will sit back and point at what he wants done, a leader is part of the team heading in the direction you need to go.
I'm a design engineer and I work from home. Luckily they closed the local office so there is no office to go to. Sales still whines about it, because me working from home doesn't allow for "in-person collaboration."
I've never understood this criticism because "collaboration" in my mind assumes useful input from sides. The problem is that Sales doesn't understand the day one basics enough to form a useful idea. Their input boils down to them shooting themselves in the foot and asking me to patch them up. I wish they would understand that the best thing they could do is to get out of my way and let me work. I'm not trying to be arrogant and difficult, but Sales interrupting Engineering all day long to put out the fires they keep setting doesn't help anyone. It was so much worse before WFH was a thing.
You need to remember that sales is just emotional and mental manipulation to achieve a goal, in this case to sell something. Do you really think that their games end at the customers?
With that last one, recently saw a video about the decline of Subway and noticed something with them as well. CEOs of these franchises all had one thing in common: loyalty. What I mean by that is that the people that made Walmart, McDonalds, Subway, iirc KFC, they all made sure to actually visit their stores and make sure things were running smoothly. They made sure their employees were taken care of, their managers were doing their jobs, the stores looked good, everything that you would want to do when your name is attached to something. When your name is attached, you don't want people to associate your name with "miserable employees and nasty store."
I wish modern CEOs would take a page out of the past CEOs books. It is their responsibility to make sure you're happy, because if you're not happy, you will leave, and that isn't a good look for your brand.
Black hole of enthusiasm here: the less we’re talking, the more work we’re doing. And most of us really enjoy ENGINEERING things. So, putting it all together, we enjoy building things, and need to focus to do so.
Look at that. All you CEOs out there - I solved the mystery.
Love,
Jim, CEO/JFK/BBQ of Corncob Enterprises
@ch-yq5yn "Nobody ever figured it out all on their own"
History and reality would beg to differ with such an erroneous generalization. Just check Google scholar as a start to see how many individuals hold patents by figuring things out on their own.
“My CEO is not my proofreader… my inconsistent and incorrect use of elipses and accidental extra spaces are not his responsibility.”
Devs are the ones who actually got shit to do, so of course we don't wanna talk to anybody. But even if we didn't, I still wouldn't want to take time out of my day to talk to any of the other corporate simps.
I’m a nurse, with average computer skills and no programming or dev skills. Even I know the developers are some of the people in a company doing the most actual work. They’re not lifting heavy things or sweating in the heat, but even I know their work has near constant effect on a company. These CEOs are all either clueless boomers, or young people trying to mimic boomer behavior.
Back when I was in a sales class, they had a simple personality map for people. One axis was sociability, the other dominance. The quadrants being labeled Analytical, Driver, Expressive, and Amiable. Sofware devs and CEOs would be on the same side of (low) sociable, but opposites in terms of dominance. It's not surprising that a CEO would have shit opinions about his employees. They're basically sociopaths.
@americandissident9062 👏 👏 👏
Now please find a good man to go "nurse" for life. The entire Healthcare industry is about to collapse. ✌️
I think it's a Christian Nellemann problem rather than a software developer problem. I'm fairly sure not even his own family wants to talk to him.
@@americandissident9062server rooms used to be hot, loud and full of heavy equipment
I’ve known some buff IT guys back in the day.
Not long ago I had a wave of seminars for orientation in an internship role. One of the topics was on LinkedIn, and the woman giving the presentation was stressing the importance of the platform as if it’s a mandatory extension of your resume.
This nutcase was swearing every other sentence and had to be told out loud not to do that in front of 40+ interns. She also might’ve been drunk. (She had a “mild buzz” energy to her speech and movement.) Easily the least professional presenter that we had. THAT’S the caliber of person LinkedIn attracts.
It makes it more realistic, to me if someone does not swear, they are more fake.
Strangers who swear a lot, in my experience, are usually either trying to fake authenticity, or they are trying to distract from the lack of content in their speech by amping up the emphasis provided by swear words. It’s the same dynamic used by comedians to get you to laugh at something that might otherwise only get a yawn.
As a tree climbing arborist... 9 out of 10 help wanted ads for climbers- ONLY want to hire a competitor's climber. They don't want experienced unemployed climbers.
I found it off putting enough to become a competitor. It's annoying having to sell jobs instead of just working but c'est la vie!
Competition is inherently destructive. See "no contest" by Alfie Kohn
@ch-yq5ynsee red bead experiment
Those CEOs are the people who idolize the office being some sort of Grant Cardone sales environment where people are constantly shouting, ringing bells, and high fiving.
It's essentially judeoangloamericanism. Highly toxic.
I have to remind my bosses they're replaceable at least twice a month. They think that they are the only manufacturing plant in Michigan, and no one else would ever hire someone with 15 years of experience, because I would want to much. I took another job making 4 more dollars an hour, then laughed at their " counter offer. I hope they never found another process tech, because they deserve to fail.
_"does it hurt, when it goes that deep"_ - that one came unexpected, i actually had to burst out a bit 😅
Really wild how people think more time = better outcomes for everything. I worked in a production (maintenance) work center and thankfully got to have a boss who when we met our goals we went home. Sometimes that meant getting a three day weekend just for being efficient. I was not in corporate, it was government, but that’s why the corporate world lacks so much incentive structure. It’s all retail and service driven.
Exactly, when everything is about time spent, people just find a way to do minimal work so they can last longer. Which only results in lower quality products and unmotivated employees.
@@skinnytimmy1 and people making busy work for other people so their management positions seem more important than they are.
Sitting at home with a hoodie on and headphones sounds like heaven to me, that guy's totes projecting his jealousy lmao
Could be jealousy, but more likely their need to have people around them to control and/or get validation from. It is documented that the CEO mentality is often psychopathic. Psychos NEED other people around to carry out their BS.
CEOs and management are mostly parasites. They don't do real work; they don't create value. They need other people around them to simulate that they are useful and working. Their existence is a lie.
LinkedIn can be a turn off. It could be the tyranny of an extrovert. If you understand what I mean. Well I prefer to stick to trading the financial market. Who trades the financial market?
Yeah i understand what you mean and it can be a turn off. I trade the financial market. Which aspect of the financial market are you referring to?
I was referring to the stock market. I was profitable from Nvidia this year. Solana spiked recently and I’m planning on purchasing some tech stocks and Ev stocks but I’m willing to try out other financial market. How do you trade?
Nvidia was superb this year. I also traded Apple. I trade based on the season of the market. It gives me a direction on implementing the right strategies for long or short term. I also trade based on the volatility of the market. Although it wasn’t easy till I came across a mentor who helped to keep me in the market loop. My mentor is Bernard Paul.
Paul is also my mentor and I’ve gained valuable insights from Paul and learnt about taking effective trade execution, optimising entry and exit points for better profitability
Nvidia was superb, Apple was also good for long term! I also traded the crypto market. Paul been helpful in keeping me in the loop.
Linkedin went from a good idea to some sort of facebook and now it´s getting closer to Tinder.
The pretty, dolled up HR girls everywhere aren't helping 😂
So the "code talker CEO" message just screams. "I dont know how to communicate and thats on you" 😂😅
That was so cringe 😂 dude thinks he has some esoteric knowledge that we're all begging for
These "CEOs" have no clue. They have no idea who's actually doing the work.
I’m a software dev and I’m not anti-social. I go out all the time and can make friends easily. I just can’t be disrupted when I’m trying to solve a problem. I’m at my desk with a hoodie and headphones on? I’m not just chillin there to avoid you. I’m trying to figure out this Eldritch error message.
Narcissism is real in linkedin; everyone showcasing who's smarter, and wise.
You know, I am a software developer, but it's not part of my job. Sometimes I have coworkers who know of my skill that will ask me to automate a task, write a quick script, or some oddball task that their guys can't do.
And I do go to the city from time to time, to be seen, to be active, to get my lazy life going.
I am 54 and can't afford to be in the same place at once for too long anyway.
Strange that the CEO didn't say how much of a bonus the salesman was making from all of that revenue.
They are usually paid on commission so it could be quite a lot. It would be nice to hear.
I mean, average commission is 10-20% on profit so, easily in the hundred thousands of bonus commission unless this company is massively inefficient
CEOs learned that return-to-office mandates didn't work, so rather than admit they were wrong, they instead say "I didn't want you here anyway software engineers!! I'M breaking up with YOU!"
My ex was a big-time corporate lawyer who worked with several fortune 100 company CEOs. She had story after story of their arrogance, cluelessnes, and reckless incompetence. It matched my experience with management during the little bit of time I spent in the corporate world as an engineer.
return to office = unpaid emotional labor (and time, and wear and tear on car, and gas money, and prof clothes, and makeup, and babysitting, and road rage...)
Linkedin should really not be a necessity for any job application but the number of times interviewers ask for it is insane. I should just put a list of made-up things on there and get friends and family to pretend to be contacts or references. If people are actually doing this already i am late to the game 😅
Everybody on their is lying lmaooo don't feel bad at all
@ch-yq5yn that's why you interview them before hiring. You don't need LinkedIn to decide if you like the person
Bro, had to stop you right from the beginning of the video: from the experience I got, the techie part of companies seems actually the most humane. Not one person who will force a smile and be fake-happy, real buddies with whom you can share jokes that would not fly in most circumstances, and we can roast each other knowing that it means nothing on a personal level. On the other side, when it comes to who hoards the coffee pods for themselves, doesn't clean shit up behind their backs etc...
I agree, the techy and the "dirty" labour are the most human people. They will tell you the truth and be real with you. Its where the streotype of vulgar "shop talk" comes from. Because they are actually either friends or being frank with each other. No relational warfare tactics and gossip for the most part. Be nice to the people who actually make your stuff and keep it working.
Nice someone who made a video on this! Ive seen so many ceos whos lost in the sauce and is out of touch with reality with their daily task is to keep their employees happy. You know the ones thats keeping their company afloat 😂
I'm a data scientist and I'm used to disrespect and misunderstanding of my profession coming from the seniority level. Also, I think they think they can do my job easily because I came in without knowing anything. The difference is that I haven't stopped learning a single day after hours. Unlike them they just do their job and presume they work hard, which is so cringy 😂
I relate to this deeply, bless you bro
LinkedIn wouldn't be so bad if it got rid of the wall posts or at least allowed users to hide them.
CEO: "I don't have to be kind to you."
Me: "I don't have to work here."
As a CEO on LinkedIn lol, I acknowledge that success often correlates with familial advantages, emphasizing the significance of maintaining and growing inherited wealth. Success hinges on a combination of patience, luck, and strategic financial decisions, yet the inherent disparities in opportunities render it attainable for only a select few. The dynamics of success and failure underscore the reality that in the pursuit of triumph, there are inevitably those who do not prevail. Notably, within affluent families, even setbacks result in a transfer of wealth to subsequent generations.
1:37 "the greater good" here probably translates to zombification of the staff.
I absolutely hate LinkedIn😂😂😂, the lies and fake niceness gets me. I have had the displeasure of meeting & working for some of the thought leaders in my country in person...they are actually HORRIBLE people and not nice as they project themselves to be.
Oh I am my CEO and he prohibits me from doing anything, that doesn't mostly benefit me or my company (family). And I obey this and only this CEO. The other bosses are just there for their own interests; I only care to receive my payment and/or raise, but I am not a slave. A job is a job, not a family.
The typical software developer is intently focused on, you know, developing software. Excuse us for not being social butterflies.
4:15 Usually when I've worked jobs where i'm doing the 80 hours a week, rather than 40. It's indicative of a ship that's crashing and burning with subpar management or a subpar product and the extra hours are simply needed to stay afloat.
Interesting point.
If you
can't write
a simple message
without double pressing enter after every sentence,
you just might be suffering from
LinkedIn brain.
I'm wondering if there is a shorting opportunity by checking how many and how much employees are burnt out and how many yes men there are in a company and time the market when they inevitable fail to keep there numbers up. Yes men never do any work. If they did they wouldn't need to be yes men.
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A "good" game of telephone is one where the middle men faithfully relay messages to one another.
The "bad" game is more akin to monkey in the middle with the middle men chasing the idea of a family and a home that's being tossed about by murderers and thieves.
It’s funny because I told my dad about corporate cringe at the work place, and he says, “If you keep working hard and keep your mouth shut, you’ll get to where you want to be.” Or “You’ll be in a higher position in 5 years.” But here’s the thing, this boomer of a 51 year old man has been running his own franchise and hasn’t worked under anyone for 18.5 years… So when he tells people, “I worked for this company” I roll my eyes because of how out of touch he is… Never going to him for work complaints or work advice ever again…
"Does it hurt when it goes that deep?!* 😂😂😂
that last message from the "Global Super Connector" sounds like a cult member like holy shit the guy just got done with his hypnosis session.
It is the same people who think we will be more productive in a room with 200 other people and constantly being disturbed. So sorry if you hunker down with noise cancelling headphones on to get peace and quiet to work.
I identify as unresponsive goo
"Software developers contribute nothing for the greater good", literally sending that message from a phone that is only possible because of devs, through a global network that works because of devs, to a million other devices that only work because of devs. Sure buddy.
You should make a video about how having a degree working for a corporation equals instability. It guarantees only what you point out to us
Well I would never go out of my way to post something on LinkedIn regarding my CEOs role, I do agree with the part where they're niether my therapist nor there to be my friend. I'm there to do a job and get paid. Opening that door gives them access to my personal life which I don't want them to have.
You know that sales guy isn’t working 90 hours a week, he’s selling the company on the idea that he’s working 90 hours a week.
Yep……these so called CEO’s are pathetic
Worked with a software vendor where the founder CEO was still a semi-active developer. He had jumped into a product demo with us, a large customer and was showing off the latest version of their software. It was cool but it was funny when he showed an unreleased feature and we were like “when can we get that?”. He was like oops, thats my private dev environment…😂
First post sounds to me like the devs are actually doing their job while the ceo and others are socializing, wasting time and money. I think I understand why the devs prefer working from home... nothing more annoying than people slacking off and distracting you when you're doing work. I honestly think this "CEO" is not fit to be in any kind of management position.
Good observations and points. Some of the best points by you, Joshua, are at about 3:59 . Thanks for analysis on certain corporate behavior which can help even bigger research. Like the research of what not to do, and hopefully what to do.
Can you imagine denigrating someone for focusing at work? Yeah, screw you software engineers trying to focus on work rather than being distracted ¿
I think theses CEOs might have lithium insufficiency and they might start having episodes soon.
I did a 1 week trial with a company who's owner was like this, holy shit I was glad that the week was over and that I wasn't going to work there.
We can all be CEO's
"My top performer works 6 days a week, 90 hours!"
"BTW, we're hiring."
Of course you are, you're obviously understaffed if you can't get your work done in 40.
These CEOs are the types to like Zom100 before the outbrake and would praise the depiction of "dedication", all notions of it be abusive go completely unnoticed.
If my business starts asking me to contribute to "the culture" I'm leaving immedietly. You asked me to pick up the phone and get yelled at all day. Of course I'm not happy after an 11 hour work day
From my experience, it's best if you have the software developers personally talking with the people who actually want and will use the software. No layers between. Not even the people PAYING for the software or "managing" its development. The result will be software that the people using it will f$#@ing love, and developers who are proud to see that people love what they made. Siloing your software people guarantees crappy products that nobody actually wants, but that MANAGERS can feel like they did something big and shoot for promotions based off of.
I mean let's keep in mind that there are also horrible devs with no clue of ui and anything. But in general I agree.
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As as (former) software developer, I am so very glad to be retired and finally out of the myopic and malignant world of corporate NPCs. I loved developing software. I did not love the blind, fumbling, arrogant nonsense that passed for most corporate leadership.
I was an All Star on LinkedIn with 500+ connections, 10 years on there, 40+ endorsements for multiple top skills and I got banned for commenting (I think) about either Communism or Biden's vax mandate. They would put Liberal comments right in your face and if you replied those people could report you. I never went back. Got several other jobs in the 2 years since (contractor).
It’s the most insidious echo chamber on the internet
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@@JeffCaplan313 I tried to explain what happened on LinkedIn and youtube censored me.
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Damn it's almost like being a developer requires long periods of uninterrupted deep focus or something
CEOs don’t see overworking people as having diminishing returns. The way their minds work, it will always have increasing returns, just based upon it being an ego boost, that they have the power to lean on people. Some of those CEOs have no calculable idea what the actual financial worth is of overworking people. It’s about ego and power. Or you can say it’s about stupidity.
Aaah, so this is the WFH cheat code. Just be an energy sapping goo! Imma do this.
Working is working (out).
At some point, your muscles are done. It doesn't matter if your mind isn't done. It doesn't matter if it hasn't been X time. You're done.
90 hours a week to make my CEO more money????? Where do I sign up!? 🤣
I'm getting serious OT since my employer was threatened with a major lawsuit last year over unpaid wages. Nevertheless, I'm nearly 55 and this last year I developed sciatica. 90 hours per week? Forget it. 60 can put you in the hospital, more can put you in the ground. What will they say then? "He was a hard worker, but died so young he actually grossed less than the rest of us"???
I'm sure the mood in the dev team is really good until this CEO shows up at the team. He can be lucky that his dev team is non responsive goo because if they responded to him it would not be pretty. If devs react to you like this they have really good reason to do so.
CEO comparing people who actually create something tangible with people in email jobs. How does "contributing to company culture" pay the bills?
You know that LinkedIn is just a trolling ground. Linkedin is like looking for a professional in Craigslist.
They just disqualified themselves from the position of CEO. 🤦
I think that first loser CEO is one of those that needs help to put an attachment in a mail... and that three times an hour. I've known several like that and yeah, I'd put my earphones in, avoid eyecontact and pretend I didn't hear them... like having a baby that needs a diaper change, dammit.
Great points Josh !!