The Dark Side of VICTORIOUS: Nickelodeon's WORST kept Secret | Deep Dive
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2023
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I will never forget trina singing "chicagoooo,chicagiiooo"😂
its a city thats exciting its a city thats inviting its a city thats for a woman just like meeee! there a lake they call lake Michigan i think im really fitting in this city is my perfect cup of teAA!
CHICAGOOOOOOOOOOO CHICAGOOOOOOOOOOO
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I stilll randomly yell it out
@@jennamichelle5491 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact that Dan Schneider didn't get punished but was given millions and closed the matter says a lot. He got away with everything.
he must have had some kind of multi-polarity leverage against the circle of executives… he must’ve “ ran stuff “
It's been 5 years since NICK dumped Dan schneider
@@thewholetruth4192 That's true. He created many hit shows and made Nickelodeon more popular. So network thought to settle the matter.
Because Hollywood is full of pedos
Did you see the Gibby pilot? It ends with a bunch of little kids, boys and girls, taking their shirts off around a 21ish year old guy playing Gibby, who I believe also took his shirt off. The whole thing was a mess.
So glad someone is finally talking about how Dan Schneider ruined Victoria Justices career. He is disgusting.
I don't think that's he really ruined her career, since she follows him on social medias and continues to responds to his comments on her posts and even praises him now and then
@@thestrong2401im pretty sure she’s trying to back up the fact that the lies he spread about her were false
@@thestrong2401 you couldn't have been more wrong on this one
how??
What a masculine narrator
I personally do not think that this man should ever be allowed around children.
him & anyone who defends him (shudder)
which one? 'cos there are many
Agreed
No, he shouldn't🚫! He needs to be behind the bars🔒🔒🔒.
wow. what a hot take ... 🙄
I honestly was wondering why does it seem like Victoria has nothing going on, but now it makes sense, she was blackballed.
She actually has quite a lot going on she stars in many indie and Netflix movies and releases independent songs now and then too lately. She wasn't really blackballed, not by Schneider at least since she continues to follow him, respond to his comments and even praises him sometimes on social medias. If she was really blackballed it was by Scooter Braun, Ariana's producer since initially he was producing Victoria's first single too which was Gold. Victoria wasn't agree to release that song as her debut single because she didn't like the song much and hadn't even write it herself but she was forced by Scooter to do so. The song was kind of a flop so Victoria decided to become an independent artist to have full control on her songs and that's when Scooter probably had her blackballed.
@@thestrong2401make sense kinda but not on her acting career tubi isn't really good bc that means her career status has restarted from when she was a kid meaning her status is D and not good at her age and talents she should be in a marvels and DC I mean the girl from raven home stars in DC Batgirl at age of 18 y Old and she left Disney in 2021 idk
Makes sense now
@@thestrong2401 majority of her work is indie or her series got cancelled. For a main star of a popular sitcom she should be further along and picking up great work like her costars who weren’t even in every single episode like she was. Blackballed doesn’t mean you don’t get work but you’re excluded from big gigs or Hollywood productions. Hence why she’s probably indie now and not even signed to a label. She should be bigger than what she is now.
@@tiannaspence9671Carly isnt big like she was. Drake and Josh either. Everyone hates Jamie Lynn. All were stars of their shows…most of the teen show stars aren’t relevant sooo
I feel so bad for Victoria, she didn't deserve all that
what happened??!
@@Mckenziechannellthe meme from her saying "I think we all sing" brought her a lot of hate and hindered her career
But the Internet took it out of context added their narratives made up from a ten second clip and demonized her for many years
Tbf, she didn't do anything to help her with all of that though either.
@@hizee5515 No, her career was dead long before that. And she's not that innocent since allegedly was a bully on z101
@@pikachu7572and ariana got away from everything, and she's the worst
everyone used to say victoria was a bully but now it seems as if she was just abused by dan and refused to sleep with him,and probabky tried to speak but couldnt for legal reasons and because he has way more power.i feel so bad for her.
She actually was a bully though according to Alexa Nikolas, she claimed that she was ganged up in by Victoria and Jamie😢
@@addyurdaddy2851 oh right i remember,although that was when they were super tiny(doesnt make it any better) so maybe shes changed with the years
@@addyurdaddy2851*she was 12. hardly the same thing*
I honestly don’t remember seeing hate for Victoria, but rather for her character Tori. Seeing these comments about how she got cancelled is honestly news to me
@@queenofcats9240 yes she actually had so much hate because ariana said one of the actresses bullied her on the set,so people tried to figure out who could that be,and also found a vid where liz says how talented ariana is and how she sings everything,then victoria was like "i think we all sing",so basically their beef became a thing and it was everywhere.idk if victoria did bully her,or just expressed a dislike tawards her,but i do feel very bad for both of them.ariana for having to be in such toxic enviorment having to be sexual(*aped.)to get parts,and victoria for not playing along and suffering the concequences.:/
When you realize Big Time Rush was the healthiest Teen Nick show because of a different executive producer.
The Thundermans too.
In my opinion icarly victorious and Sam amd cat were the best shows and talent but the relationship of the cast fkr the thundermans really made the show shine
@@user-gy4nk1bp8c In my opinion Drake And Josh , iCarly and Big Time Rush were the best shows of Nickelodeon.
I agree
I agree El Tigre is a healthiest Nicktoon
I get so mad online when people (most Ariana stans) attack Victoria Justice. Like, the character of TORI is annoying and selfish. Not VICTORIA. Leave her alone. And yes she did have the weakest voice in the cast but it’s not her fault she was the main character and given songs not fit for her vocal range. She was in the movie “Spectacular” where she also sings and honestly she was fine there singing wise. It’s just a shame she’s gotten so much hate for zero reason.
ariana even blamed victoria for ending the show, ariana said she wanted to continue the show, and it was unncessary for her to even comment, nobody asked her to out someone else and even if victoria had decided to quit, it was her right to do so...
@@mmmissmiss3356 i'm not surprised, ariana has always seemed shady to me :/
@@mmmissmiss3356You keep spamming this in every comment 😮
@@mmmissmiss3356 She wasn't exactly subtle, despite their best efforts at infantilizing her, Ariana's true colors peeked through the cracks many times. Before the home wrecking scandal, (seriously revolting, the man's wife had just given birth! It doesn't get much lower.) the donut-licking incident was simplyher most blatant.
Most of the other incidents were just easier to rug-sweep or for her fans to make excuses in her defense.
that was f false! @@mmmissmiss3356
I hope more people will speak out against Dan
I heard there’s an avalanche of NDA’s though… an Avalanche.
If I remember correctly Daniella Monet (Trina’s actress) spoke up about how she sometimes felt uncomfortable on the situations her character was put in sometime last year.
Yes!! I hope that too.
@@enchantingkatie ugh it's so fustrating
@@enchantingkatieariana this ariana that
It's absolutely depressing how such a big part of my childhood was built on an Empire of sexual abuse, solicitation and exploitation. Be it the fact that Drake & Josh had such a big fallout after their show, Zoey 101 being an absolute nightmare for the cast, Janette McCurdy being mentally ruined by iCarly and Sam& Cat and now this whole thing with Victoria being blackballed and the cast being effectively drugged up despite not being of legal drinking age at the time. Dan Schneider built the ultimate time of happiness for us as children just for the curtains to fall, the Façade to crumble and the dark truth being revealed to us as adults, realizing that our entertainment was built on the the backs of suffering and depression. Disgusting. F**k you for being such an amazing part of my childhood Dan.
Same I can’t believe you know when I used to watch Icarly sometimes in some scenes Jeanette would look in to the camera and her face would look like she was crying for help like it looked like a call for help I didn’t think much of it I mean I was only 8 at the time but now that im 12 I looked into the behind the scenes on the show and I don’t mean that behind the scenes but yeah I looked into everything and I found some shocking things that I will not mention because even mentioning it makes me vomit but yea I feel bad for the kids on both shows especially Jeanette she went through the worst of it all
Then call out people like Ariana Grande. And all like her
Most entertainment has been absolutely ruined for me after hearing about the ways actors are treated on set. Hollywood takes these young people who are still figuring out life and destroys them. It is so horrifying to think about how these people were treated
@@Not-Ken-Molestina exactly 💯
@Not-Ken-Molestina Ariana Grande is a victim too. You should stand behind anyone who shares their experience and listen to them, that doesn't mean that you can demand victims tell their story.
Victims don't owe anyone anything. I'm grateful that so many people are coming forward and sharing such personal stories to bring these problems to light but I certainly don't fault Arianna for not wanting to be involved in this big public movement at this time. She likely has trauma from the inappropriate treatment, we can't demand people lay their trauma out on the table just because other victims are.
Rewatching it as an adult makes you realize how short the skirts and dresses were…
Especially Ariana’s
This part! Watching it now it’s really weird to know I was enjoying it as a kid but the target audience could also be old adult men
@@kaksbaby You're onto something. My friend watched iCarly, but am not sure if he watched these other shows. I could never figure out why he was watching shows geared toward teens. After watching a couple Deep Dive documentaries I think I got it. The world is a sick place.
@@claytonbouldin9381 unless it reminded him of a different show from his childhood or friends he used to have when he was a teen.... your friend might be uh, *weird*
@@krims_kringle nope. we were in college and yes he can be weird.
Ariana’s Character (Kat) getting progressively child like by Sam & Kat just got a lot weirder
Yeah I feel like at first she was a little "head in the clouds" but at the end she'd be like "hehe pickle juice" out of nowhere
Yeah I did notice throughout both victorious and Sam and kat she just acted more and more childish
Yes! So weird. Went from “dumb blonde” type personality to full on child like even though was supposedly an adult in the sam and kat show. Very odd.
@allstopblue5717 her character was always like that
@@aaronnantz2289 s1 of victorious she was just kinda stupid, nothing exactly eluding to a child but in season 2 and 3 and sam and cat she had the character of a 10 year old both wardrobe wise and personality
Careful! Elizabeth Gillies might try to sue you the same way she tried to sue Sloan!
At least the information is getting out. She can’t sue all of us for that length of time in the eventuality of things. There’s too many of us.
He is Sloan...(edit) I think...
@@kacklinaEh what?
@@kacklinawait really, I knew he sounded familiar 😭
@@kacklina no he is not sloan
We have to blame a lot of the parents as well. I’m sure a lot of them knew exactly what was happening but saw nothing wrong because of Dan Schneiders power.
Watch the new documentary ! Allot of the parents tried to speak out and when they did it cost their kids their careers
@@khyrronrhodes2440 yess I’ve been watching and I’m enjoying it. My original comment has aged poorly lol
If you go on his last video on his channel, you see a Zoom reunion with the cast of Victorious. Every single person was there, even Ariana Grande. Idk why would they attend if they didn't like Dan. Maybe he paid them? But why would Ariana be there if people said she hated him.
Just think about that.
@@khyrronrhodes2440 As a parent you should be unconcerned about your kid’s career when they’re being abused. You don’t let them stay in the same situation, these parents failed their kids.
@@1saamor897yes, you have questions so do more deep dives. Things like some of these people getting paid off not to speak isn't exactly new. Some of us who always wondered and were branded as crazy simps but now these truths are coming to light. Given Ariannas actions over the past years, I'm not surprised one of her 704 followers is Dan. Wouldn't surprise me if it was AG into age play. But it definitely seems more like an Elizabeth thing.
Be careful - her legal team made a couple other channels take down their videos on her relationship with him and they're not allowed to talk about her anymore at all.
But this is still a great and informative video. Dan's an absolute creep.
Are there copies of these videos online?
considering that the guy is a former computer programmer (and probably still is as a hobby) and, of course, he also played one in the head of the class) i always assumed he had a one-eighty I Q (180 IQ)… now i am wondering if it is actually higher. You know those folks eventually don’t look right 👀
It’s all “allegedly” so hopefully any cease and desists will be shut down by BJ 👏👏
They did this to Sloan’s videos
@@Dave102693sloan's somewhere on Yt
No denying Dan Schneider made some great shows that are still fondly remembered today. But man was he a weirdo
Agreed. Great shows, however, Dan is a creepy pervert who likes little girls. 🤢🤮 And his foot fetish is so freaking weird. He's so inappropriate.
& that's an under statement 😂
The word is pedo.
It's so effd up that he hurt so so so many children in order to profit and land himself a place in our childhood memories
Pedophile
Liz's voice reminds me a lot of Amy Lee from Evanescence, and it's surprising to hear she struggles with her identity as a musician. It makes me rather suspicious of the _creative team_ she surrounds herself with if you get my drift.
She's soulless
What do you mean?
100% agree. It's so obvious what she'd excell at I wonder who's telling her to doubt herself... Sigh
Right?? To have that amazing creative team and no one there to guide her to find her own musical identity? sus
At one Point, it feels like he is the one that doesn’t want her to be too successful. When she talks about her career (to be only a con singer) it sounds like he was telling her that too often, to hold her small. I think this is one thing that gives him power in their relationship. If she gets too independent or too confident it could endanger the relationship.
and he was always the stronger person. I don’t know what would happen when the relationship would be eye to eye.
Hearing what went on behind the scenes actually makes a lot of things make since. I always noticed how victorious was never the center of attention in her OWN show
I feel like Ariana and Liz,because they had previously worked on broadway and had more experience and an idea of how the entertainment industry works,they were conditioned or encouraged to see that type of behavior/environment as “”opportunities””.Just listen when Liz said she knew she would date that producer.Almost in a calculating way.He as an adult might have groomed her,but she also embraced the idea and knew what that could mean to her,because thats the mentality that she was probably conditioned to have as someone in that industry.Its like having a child trying to have that thinking and hustle mentality of an adult.
Hearing how Liz talks about her relationship in interviews feels like I'm watching a teenager doing their hardest to prove they are an adult ...and using their love life as the topic to prove that. It's so interesting as she says things like 'I don't talk about our relationship,' but in the same interview needs to tell us the story of how they met in a 'romantic' way, and in another interview needing to tell the story about her family meeting him for the first time. She has to talk about her relationship, because it is what makes her not feel like a 'nickelodeon' kid. She has no other concept of adulthood outside of drugs, and being groomed. When you watch interviews with Hillary Duff talking about Joel Madden, it's the same thing.
It’s sad because I feel like she’s such a strong woman without a man. But she knew that he would be a safety net and she likes that.
I do hope that if the time comes she eventually gets with someone her age in time.
At one Point, it feels like he is the one that doesn’t want her to be too successful. When she talks about her career (to be only a con singer) it sounds like he was telling her that too often, to hold her small.
I don't know how The Creator was able to get away with objectifying minors on his shows for so long. I hope that the current Nickelodeon child/teen actors are being treated better.
Profit over people. That's just capitalism.
Friends in High Places
$$$$, power, knowing the right ppl
It's "Hollywood." No child is treated better.😢
Blackmail like epstein
Im downloading this video because i feel like there's no way this will be kept up. I had no idea it went so deep holy crap.
Another creator named Sloan got a cease and desist when he tried talking about LG and her husband. This is coming down for sure
Liz is already aware of this video and channel
@@rydbthatsme😬
Oahp. That means i have to download a copy of this video. Thanks for the heads-up.
@@rydbthatsme that sounds ominous, how do you know?
I always wondered why Ari never spoke out in support of Jennette or even spoke on her experience as a child actor at all and all of this makes a LOT of sense. + recent stuff coming out further proving she’s not a girls girl… 😬 not a good loooookkk
true that ari has been doing shady things but let's not victim blame when it comes to this situation because if ari was exploited as a minor by dan - an adult in a position of power, the blame should not be on her
@@blue7609 wait where did I victim blame? Yes if he did those things when she was YOUNGER she is definitely the victim… But she’s an adult now with way more power than him now and could have still spoken out and shed light on the hardships of being child actor and supported Jennette or debunked the Tori rumors, but she never does, she never speaks out. Her not speaking up now doesn’t make her a victim, it’s makes her ally of the opposition.
@@blue7609 and the picture of her posing with him speaks values on where she stands!
wdym she's not a girls girl?
ariana even blamed victoria for ending the show, ariana said she wanted to continue the show, and it was unncessary for her to even comment, nobody asked her to out someone else and even if victoria had decided to quit, it was her right to do so...
This is exactly why I never hopped on the Victoria Justice hate bandwagon . She deserved so much better and I always loved her ! I hope one day she gets the courage to speak her truth , however I can understand if she never does
there is only the truth
when people claim "her truth, their truth, his truth" all that is is bias and hearsay
Yea she was THAT girl
I also think it's worth noting that Victoria didn't show up for Zoey 102 due to "scheduling issues."
didnt know this existed until now. Thank you
Don't think she didn't show up for the Zoey movie because of some noble reason, she didn't show up just because she is tired of being associated with nickelodeon's characters and wants to be taken more seriously as an actress since everyone mostly remembers her as Tori from Victorious and Lola from Zoey 101.
@@thestrong2401I wouldn't either the heck with them they all losers and Weirdos and the show flops and the movie
If you go on his last video on his channel, you see a Zoom reunion with the cast of Victorious. Every single person was there, even Ariana Grande. Idk why would they attend if they didn't like Dan. Maybe he paid them? But why would Ariana be there if people said she hated him.
Just think about that.
This video is so triggering to me today. Everyone knew about Dan for years. It really should be no surprise the Victorious set was a breeding ground for sex and drugs. It was like they were hiding it in plain sight. It just blows my mind how we all let this slide as a community of humans. How are we not asking more questions about where were the parents when these kids were on set? Were parents not allowed, or were these kids abandoned? The stuff in Victorious on re-watch seems so obvious now, but I didn't see it at the time. It's so...heartbreaking how exploited they were.
A lot of child stars have abusive parents that care more about their child being famous and making money than their well-being
Literally Rikki Valentina said, that Ariana asked her ex for a tip how to seduce a 40 yo o.o Allegedly
I cant believe this adds up
Triggering? Excuse me what has it triggered? And what is a trigger for you anyway?
@@2KMMC2 it has triggered my own childhood abuse. A trigger is something that brings you back to that trauma.
@@blue7609Jeanette McCurdy’s mom is the perfect example.
Justice for Victoria.
Also these kids, I feel so sickened. I'm so terribly sorry they got played, grommed and manipulated like this, to say the least. No child should ever go through this. Ever.
Downloaded it, in case anyone tries to take it down
I like the wordplay at the beginning
@@emilymeyers6069Yeah me too
Dude Ariana... with the donut licking , the innocent act , and stealing everyone's man 😭😭 this girl is such a mess
you don't know her 💀 you know what you read on the Internet.
you're talking about an abuse victim who was a minor.
@@cococole1569 yes , the video of her licking a donut and saying she hates American are on the internet 😂 too bad it's real video evidence 🤡
@@lifewithjadajarvis idc for reeaaalll because so was I , but I'm not rich and famous and no one cares. I'm also not a delinquent because of it and I have self respect. I'm not giving her excuses for growing up to be a bad person 😂 we all have choices.
I hope Liz can legit get away from her abusive marriage. It doesn't matter if she says its fine or healthy. She was involved with her husband when she was 15 and he was in his 30s!!! That automatically makes it abusive and him being her boss is a massive power imbalance.
it's so clear she has stockholm syndrome and her close circle from the cast are not calling it out. lowkey at her grown age of 30, she is grown to be self-aware. if she refuses to get out then that's her problem
@@PaolaTheTimeLordI don’t think it’s Stockholm, I think she just liked feeling like the young pretty girl too smart for any boy her age and she likes thinking that he became infatuated with her despite her age. At 30 he still makes her feel young. It’s crazy how she can talk about all of that and act as if she had a lot of experience with a straight face. If they fell on hard times her career would be dead and she wouldn’t have any connections
How do you know her marriage is abusive?And they didn’t start dating until she was an adult.Just because they met when she was 15 doesn’t mean they were dating.
@@LTay12except basically the second she turned 18 they started dating, as if he was waiting for it to happen. also.. an 18 year old dating someone in there 30’s still gives alarm bells does it not? a 30 year old should NOT be attracted to a child
@@cassiehartleyy8849 thank God a 18 year old is not a child.
The other producers won’t not work with her because she’s “hard to work with” they won’t work with her because she’s hard to SLEEP with. Let’s stop acting like we don’t know how this game goes.
Like Meagan Good that’s why she’s yet to win an award with all the years she’s been in the industry.
So does this mean Ariana and jade are his favs bc they slept with him? Makes me sick
It makes me angry 😡 🔥
I wouldn’t be surprised if y’all got hit with a cease and desist, Liz gillies team sent Sloan one after he talked about her in a video and threatened to sue him, I’m not really sure what happened but he won’t say her name anymore.
I think the male voice in this videos is Sloan...
@@kacklinathat's Jake.
He just deleted the video where he talked about her toxic relationship with that old dude she met when she was a teen and ended up marrying but he can still mention her name
So, everything about them is true then
Brooo these are some serious allegations so like innocent until proven guilty or whatever BUT I will say that this is the first time everything involving the Nickelodeon kids made since to me. Like why ari and liz never ever talk about those days, why Tori was hardly even the main character of her own show, why victoria just like dropped off the face of the earth, idk it’s wild but it checks out
Sigh 😞 it's the fact that all your questions were answered by this exact same video and yet here we are.
It breaks my heart to see how talented kids destroy themselves and were destroyed by adults and the industry. Why won’t these people let them be kids.
I’m like where were their parents tho? Their parent really let them do all these things? crazy cause there’s no way they didn’t see anything
because preyin on the kids has always been an open secret in hollywood
Drugs?? More sexual things in the show?? Sex???? KIDS????
TOTALLY my reaction, i'm SO appalled
That's show business
Yes I’m watching it now and decided to look up why their show ended and ran into this vid but it is alot of kissing and grabbing on set
yep...have u watched ned's classified school survival guide? their cast has been doing podcasts & they talked about doing sexual things during the show...the main girl even said she gave head to many guys, including the one who plays coconut head 😭😭😭 these sets were riddled w disgusting adults, i feel so bad for child actors
Still shocked😮
The sad part about Liz dating that producer is at the time I'm sure she believed it was what she had to do to succeed but a successful career for Liz would never be then his plans for her because he has her right where she wants her and when you continue relationships with abusers everything about yourself that you value will continue to disintegrate until you walk away. It's such a shame because she had the talent to do it on her own I wish you would have just believed in herself.
She’s going to be hit hard with reality when she gets a little older or has a teenage child, she will truly see what it was like when she was groomed. 16 is a CHILD. I mean I’m 31 and I see anyone under 25 as a baby child but still. Such a creep! Ari & Elizabeth were/are victims for so long, it kind of explains the acting out that Ari does by taking everyone’s man. So sad for them.
@@Silver_Arlington_ I agree
@@Silver_Arlington_yeah, lots of grooming victims start to realize how much shit they were/are in when they are of a similar age to their groomer when they started the relationship... Liz still has a few years to go. I hope she manages to wake up and escape
@silver_arlington_ this is what happened to vili fulao (forgot his name). He was r***ed by his teacher, had children with her, and when his kids got to the age he was (12?) what sa happened, he finally saw how fucked up his situation was...
Hopefully, if she ever has children, she does come to realize this It could become a cycle if she doesn't.
I’ve never seen such a deep dive of this show. Had no idea all of that was happening on set to the poor cast. I hope everyone sees this and finds out the truth.
the thought of miranda 'not a groomer just a loser' sings being in the same room as dan 'the pdf file' schiender makes me want to vomit.
12:36 “A young Liz would hide her ANCIENT boyfriend in the shadows.”
The SHADE 😂 I live
when he kept on saying dRuVUggs and SUVEx
Dan was on the prowl for children. This happened to me, and I never shared it with anyone cause no one would have believed me at the time, and I'm sure people will still doubt me today.
Back in the 90s, my mom brother and I got tickets for a live recording of All That when it was at its prime. It was a Lori Beth day... she was hilarious as the shouting librarian. There were also other skits and they recorded a concert.
Anyway, after the recording was over, my mom managed to get us a quick tour of the backstage area after recording.
I was 8 or 9 years old at the time and I was a shy, socially awkward girl who never got noticed by anyone. I will never forget the stare I received from this fat man all the way across the bleachers. It was like his eyes were targeting me when there were hundreds of children running around the bleachers, and he must have been 150-200 feet away!
After a milisecond of his stare I looked away. It still felt like I was being watched so I glanced back and he was still looking at me. I remember turning away, and we left the studio.
I’m so sorry he did this to you. I’m happy that it didn’t go any further and you were with your mom. I hope all is well with you.
i believe you. i’m so sorry because that’s disgusting.
That is Creepy and disgusting 🤮 thank god you were with your mom
😨😨😨😨
@@bLYSfullyherethank you. I'm fine. Back then I had no idea who he was. Once I started seeing blind items on the internet, it took me a while to process.
oooh, jysk liz is known to file cease & desist letters against ppl who talk about her and her husband, hope this stays up - she’s been trying to silence people
I think it's more, she wants people to stop guessing about her marriage. She's 30 now. They didn't date until she was 20.
@@rosieglowsthey met when she was 15-16 and him 35-36. They started dating at 18 and 38.
I'm confused at how she would have grounds to sue, is it just that other UA-camrs have been scared of a potential legal battle? Theres no way she wins a defamation case for a video like this, when everything is made clear about the sources of reports and identifies which ones aren't verified
@@rosieglows exactly
@@townfool4682 she filed a cease & desist against the youtuber sloan and threatened to pursue further legal action if he ever spoke of her again, even if it’s just saying her name
Why does he have such a fascination with feet, of all things?! Also, I just want to give Jennette McCurdy and Alexa Nikolas, to name but a few former teen actors, huge hugs after the trauma that they had to endure by his hands.
How old are you? Never heard of a foot fetish before?
Even as a kid, I always thought it was weird. Not to mention the actresses being sexualized, most notably Ariana Grande holding a potato as if she's giving a hand job. How was that allowed to air on television for kids?
Because there is a vein that runs along the prefeontal cortex of some humans that ‘confuse’ certain body parts with orgiastic responses. Like, para-normative sexual disorders are real.
It's a commonplace fetish
Trust me… feet are not the worst fetish to have. (I don’t personally have that.) but just be glad it’s not something worse… but children’s feet… is so creepy.
Omg I love how you included "Elizabeth's husband at the time this video was produced "
👀
Didn’t he say “Elizabeth’s 50-year-old husband at the time this video was produced”? It was her husband’s age that he was qualifying, not his status as her husband.
I see why spongebob was referring Dan As Dirty Dan lol
Omg I had the same thought 😂
the allegation between Ariana & Dan schneider sleeping together really shook me because i remember in the (full vers) video where Liz & Ari were sitting on the floor. Ariana whispers something to Liz & cameraman asks “what are you girls talking bout?” to which Ariana replies “im asking Liz how to seduce a 40 year old man” 🤯
*edited* : sorry, NOT “sleeping together” it was sexual coercion/abuse.
Considering there’s videos of Cat Valentine in weird positions, that’s not surspring.
@@Dave102693 i had heard bout that but this was my first hearing bout any sexual interaction between the two. i just thought it stopped at the weird feet fetish.
where was that video?,in the recent alligations against ariana being a homewrecker,some girl made a tiktok saying ariana actually stole her bf during this time,and said that when she asked her bf what was ariana talking to him about he said she asked him how to seduce a 40 yearold man😦😦😦.honestly this is sickening.poor children didnt even get a chance to grow up properly and were made to believe they want to have *ex with older people when theyre underage.and liz can say she was alwayd into older men but that doesnt mean its coming from a healthy place,considering her upbringing of course she'll be into older men.
wait a minute…. There was a full version?
@@idkyurherenope it didn’t. There’s been blinds on CDAN about how her mother encouraged her to sleep with Dan
Liz Gilles has 100% been conditioned to lie about her relationship with this old ass dude. Her PR team instructs her on how to address the questions so that it doesn't seem as predatory as it is. I just hope she's doing okay
Even as a kid, I always felt weird watching Victorious with my parents in the room. It didn't feel like a kids' show. But I didn't know how bad things really were for these actors and actresses. They all deserved better. It sucks that this show is nostalgic for people at the same time. It's even nostalgic for me.
Yeah I felt the same way. It felt like a show I wasn't supposed to watch.
I didn't like victorious I love Victoria justice but her show was just unfunny to me the characters always acted like they were better than everyone else. They always treated the character Trina like shit its like the characters were forced to hate each other they always acted like they couldn't do anything cause they were so grown up or whatever I hated the show I just couldn't get into it whatsoever.
There were so many episodes that I felt weird watching, especially with the rest of my family in the room. Nothing was inherently sexual but it just felt off even as a kid
Try watching the episode"the gorilla club". The first scene, Tori is acting and sykowitz is watching, then starts laughing.
Kat comes in, carrying her purple giraffe, they both watch her act and both start laughing(😂) ! Tori gets angry and throws the giraffe out the window and pulls sykowitz's pants down (🤨)then leaves ! Kat yells out" Mr purple!!" And jumps out the window 🤷!?!?
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RIGHT?! some stuff was off putting, and I wonder what it would be like watching that from an adults POV for the first time
I thought I was the only one. Seeing Victoria get sandwich by Matt & avan 🤮🤮
esp the breakfast club episode, yeah its not that subtle with the hidden meaning behind robbie and cat being "vegans" was a code name for people who have never done drugs before, but the whole feet thing w victoria and just sexual stuff in that ep was so fucking creepy
This makes me mad for sooo many reasons, first and foremost the way Liz and Ariana were groomed and still remain in the same psychological state and then how people inside the industry and outside turned on Victoria for standing her ground when that is extremely hard to do
This is what evil cowardly people always do. Evil supports evil and they gang up against individuals. It happens everywhere.
I keep seeing comments about Elizabeth Gillies trying to silence anyone who talks about her. I'm glad I saw this now, just in case its taken down.
If you have UA-cam Premium i recommend downloading the video like a few others so we can keep any evidence
Same 💯
@@GalaxyfullofStars💀💀💀💀?
@@DaBraaat I'll run you down on the lore: Around when this video was uploaded others were making similar videos calling out Liz's sketchy relationship but Liz was wiping them all off the Internet so everyone was panicking for Deep Dive and downloading the video because this situation rlly needed bringing to light
@@GalaxyfullofStars ohhhh ok. thanks for shedding light on that!
Even the Nickelodeon logo is a foot 😭🤚🏼
Hearing Liz talk about her boyfriend/husband in interviews is giving Hillary Duff/Joel Madden vibes. She sounds like a teenager acting as an adult, who thinks the best way to 'act' like an adult is to talk about your personal love life in public interviews. 🙃
I bet it would be so heartbreaking for these child stars to reframe these problematic relationships for what they really were....because it would mean they aren't 'special' and 'mature' for their age. They are just easily manipulated.
There is a reason she feels like she doesn't have an identity. There are grown men who have been manipulating her since age 15.
Duff and Madden would've been better than Mike and Liz
I always thought that Victoria would be amazing for a reboot of the vampire diaries; she looks so much like Nina Dobrev and she would be perfect as Elena and Damon's daughter.
Dude the fact that there were scenes that felt icky too me even as a kid says a lot!Of course in didn’t fully understand a lot of the “jokes” I could still tell that something wasn’t right
He made me sick to my stomach even when I was a kid
And to think people called Alexa Nikolas back in 2017 or 2019 a crazy ass there's no way Nickelodeon was capable of this. Now that the truth is coming out shes not crazy at all. She has been warning us about how Dan Schneider really was.
let’s hope this doesn’t get taken down like Sloan’s video did
It will cause Liz doesn’t mess around
I already have a copy of it.
Basically everyone on the Victorious cast was extremely talented. Trina’s actress was in the front running for Hannah Montana at one point.
what does that have to do with the video?
@@leahscontemporary the talent of the young actresses was brought up. I’ve always thought it was ironic how Trina was an untalented character, yet Daniella Monet had enough talent to nearly get one of the biggest roles in kids’ television. Just an observation. Everyone on that cast was too talented to be bowing down to a creep like Dan Schneider that’s for sure.
It was a breeding ground for drugs and sex. All super talented and attractive. And with a sicko producing the whole thing. No wonder the show didn’t last long despite it being a huge hit.
I want the sam and cat video next! Or one on Ariana grande! She's definitely been shown to be a horrible person for YEARS. And people are just now starting to believe it
Especially with her home wrecking and all
Jeannette McCurdy definitely did not speak very highly of her in her book
@@BoadieBroadus3211yeah, but I don't think it was so bad.
Dude chill the fuck out. We are talking about children here. It is concerning how willing people are to put blame on children rather than the adults who were obviously manipulating them.
@@BoadieBroadus3211she was a kid
Wiiild what a coincidence,I literally just found out Liz married this fossil yesterday,and I was wondering what the story was. Thank you for doing the research for me!
Yeah. 😕 I don’t know why marry him
@@thedastone1939trauma bond?
I Hope She Doesn't Have A "Daddy" Kink 😳
The story is that they fell in love and got married. Why are people upset about their relationship?
@@jonathancharron7360 because when they met, she was a 16 year old kid and he was almost 40. What other explanation do you need?
If all these allegations are true, it would explain why Viacom got rid of Dan Schneider and gave him a severance pay. It's possible Viacom got a new CEO who investigated many allegations against Dan including the way he mistreated actors on set especially child actors. Although Ariana Grande got her big break as a singer through Victorious and had a rich family to help her get ahead in show business, she doesn't seem to be doing too well. Last fall, she took a picture of herself weighing just over 100 lbs and said her weight loss was due to a vegan diet. She said she was only 107 lbs to be exact. But, she looked pretty ill to me and it wouldn't surprise me if she actually weighs less and is around 95 lbs. I believe the higher ups at Nick knew about Dan's antics for years which is why they cancelled Victorious when the ratings were still high. They then ended up terminating him with a $7 million severance pay. I heard Dan Schneider has since tried to pitch his show ideas to other networks, but no other network has picked him up. It's possible he has been blackballed.
He needs to be arrested not just black balled
@@Bobsbugur8140 While it would do Dan's victims justice to see him go to prison, I don't see that happening. Of course, there's a first time for everything. But, at this point, Dan has been blackballed and will probably never work in the entertainment industry again as a producer or an actor. He did it to himself.
@@jessicasmith5728I wonder what he’s doing these days tho?
The video was so twisted. Seeing some of clips now I’m older feels so weird. One thing I realized now is that it’s not just the kids in the studio. Where were their parents for real? We’re they thinking oh they are actors and the need to be out night and day? Or that it’s normal to see your child hungover consistently? I can’t imagine what kind of conversations the studio and management people were having
@@Bobsbugur8140 and given black balls, am thinking a boot
It's infuriating how Victoria faced severe public bullying for not meeting their standards of being "star enough." Considering the alternative would've been her getting 🍇-ed. Dan deliberately named the show after her actual name thus blurring the lines between the actor and the role, preventing her career from taking off. She was unfairly targeted for the character Tori's actions on the show. The mob mentality and its impact on her is utterly revolting.
Let's also not forget when he'd tweet out asking fans to write on their feet and tag them when they post the feet pics. I was 12, but that seemed so weird to me even back then.
😂😂😂
Eww seriously?? That is SO fucked-up. _Why_ was that man allowed to get away with so much deeply troubling behaviour?!
Amanda Bynes I think was by far the most traumatized by nickelodeon. That girl wasn't able to live a normal life for over a decade. She is literally just now starting to live a semi normal. The way Hollywood treats their actors is honestly disgusting.
That blind item was very troubling. If that stuff is true it makes these shows pretty depressing in retrospect, honestly.
Be careful! SLOAN got a cease and desist from Liz because he talked about her husband grooming her
I feel bad for Victoria. She was painted as the villain and now she can’t land a gig. And I love Liz but her not realizing this was grooming… girl come on. At least she’s happy with him. She was always so grown for her age tho. She looked more mature out of the whole cast too. I also feel bad for the entire cast. To be essentially ruined by drugs and alcohol while on set as children… it’s disgusting that the directors and staff pushed that on them.
She's still with a groomer and you're saying "come on" at her? It's very hard to realize abuse while you're in the situation. The longer they're together, the harder it is. She's still under his manipulation. And seeming grown for one's age is a sign of having to be grown too young too. This isn't a "come on" situation smh
@@sourgreendolly7685 I still say come on cause she’s been told it’s grooming and she’s still in love with him. She’ll never leave him so he wins. Like what else can you say? She has to come to the realization herself. Authorities can’t help her now
@@jpachu16that’s what grooming is babe they can’t just grow up and realize they were groomed obviously if they are only still around that person they will keep getting manipulated into thinking it was normal??? and reject anyone else who is against them because of the whole us against the world mentality groomers instill on their victims
and no one supported victoria
ariana even blamed victoria for ending the show, ariana said she wanted to continue the show, and it was unncessary for her to even comment, nobody asked her to out someone else and even if victoria had decided to quit, it was her right to do so...
@@sourgreendolly7685every time I see someone say “come on” I always assume it’s a man saying it. It’s so cringe💀
The blind item about Ari being abused by Dan tracks. I think her upbringing with her dad and now the blind item about Dan would make sense why Ariana often jumps from relationship to relationship or isn’t a girls girl and has had so many relationship scandals lately.
Victoria got so much shit for the “i think we all sing” comment even tho they were complimenting each other and she added i think we all sing as in Leon Thomas, her, Ariana, Liz and others sing as well. Just a normal comment
I got the vibe that Victoria was thinking about how an audience could interpret the repetition of "shes always singing" as a way of saying "shes always showing off". So she chimed in "we all sing" to make sure the audience knows that it's not like that.
To be clear, I don't think Victoria viewed it as a dig from Liz. But that she was fully aware of how people could misinterpret the situation.
I saw the video I cant understand what the buzz is about.
Hearing all of this makes me wonder about a rumor I heard years ago. There was a rumor that was quickly squashed that the father of Jamie Lynn Spears’ oldest daughter was really a producer on her show.
You mean Britney Spears 🙄
@@RossBaby91 Last time I checked, Jamie Lynn Spears had a baby at 16, not Britney. So no, I mean Jamie.
Deep Dive: "People needed to knock before entering ..."
Me" Well duh, someone might be getting changed"
Deep Dive:"... because people were having sex"
Me:😯🙀
But honestly, it's so disgusting to think about those grown people sexually pursuing these children and pushing them to do drugs and alcohol 🤢🤮
And putting a camera in their faces while doing all that. Really sick 🤢
🤮 🤮 🤮 I think I'm gonna be sick
I will never forget, watching these shows with my kids when they were growing up and definitely seeing things that they did not pick up on. Especially the feet thing. I knew who was ever making these shows was a predator.
I couldn’t agree more with you! My daughter is now 21 years old, so I watched many, many episodes of Nickelodeon and Disney with her as she was growing up. I remember her telling me that some of the characters were so rude and nasty to each other and adults on the shows…and it made her uncomfortable at times. (My girl has always been an old soul!). She would say that younger kids watching would think it is okay to emulate the behavior because it was fun being so “sassy” like the kid actors on the shows. We would talk all the time about the episode we had just watched and how the dialogue was so unrealistic and she could tell an “adult wrote the dialogue pretending to be a tween or young teenager”. (My daughter is now a senior in college and is student-teaching in a middle school. Her goal is to continue teaching middle school upon graduating in the spring and starting a theater program for the underserved students she teaches!
I’ll recommend that she watch this Deep Dive when she has a spare minute during her winter break! I know she will be horrified by the way those grown men treated those young female (and male) actors. 😢
I've known for years that there was bullying in all of his shows. Not long after sam and cat ended there were MANY rumors Ariana was a massive diva and bullied everyone and put the show aside.
Victoria has been in shows, many dramas and stuff, but yeah nothing severely in the limelight unfortunately
I dont like the personality of Victoria Justices character Tori, but Victoria herself seems kind and sweet she looks out for others and she just seems truly passionate about acting.
I was too old for Victorious. I tapped out with Drake and Josh. But, this whole thing is completely disgusting.
I believe this is about VJ. It's so sad that she could be painted as difficult and lose her career when she was just being true to her personal values and not sleeping with a nasty old man in a position of extreme power.
I hope she can get back into acting if that's what she wants.
This is so appaling that this show with many children was known for sex and drugs on set. That's terrifying.
I found it hard to watch, I was actually shocked to hear it even though I expected it
Drake & Josh was the last hoorah for me
Victoria is an actress, she has 3 movies on netflix.
If you dont accept shit from people you are often labeled as difficult to work with.
I'm watching this as a 41 year old woman who never watched these shows. I was already in my 20s when these were on air and remember seeing an episode when over my cousin's house and my little cousin was watching it. And the first thing I remember telling my cousin is how I couldn't get this was a kid's show. The adult humor was all over it and it wasn't remotely hidden.
That's how all his shows were
it’s worse in iCarly imo, there’s this one scene where Carly gets a comment calling her a stick, and she basically gets offended and says she’s “getting curvier by the day” and her friend Freddy (who’s known to have a crush on her) says “I know”…
I had a similar experience too! I was also in my 20's thinking about how there was such obvious underage sexuality on that show. Couldn't believe that was okay back then.
@@moniqueg9481 I remember feeling super uncomfortable and I watched it for my little cousin but as soon as he got bored, we switched it. I couldn't watch these teens, some pre-teens with heavy, heavy sexual innuendo. And it wasn't me looking too into it or anything. It was so obviously there.
@@meIatonin now I know why I couldn't handle any of those shows. They all seemed too corny but the sexual innuendo was just so heavy.
Uhhhhhh Liz is a little weird for her views on her relationship…. She’s been brainwashed
It's really sad, I love Liz Gillies but it's upsetting that she was a victim of grooming.
Honestly this channel has been such a guilty pleasure and then you decide to cover LIZ? Never stop, please, slaaaaay
Not going to say my source but ALLEGEDLY a CERTAIN Nickleodeon show producer really had a fixation on 13 year olds, and he liked Ariana because she would act young for him and roleplay, even doing her Cat voice and laugh in between takes.
That fact that Ariana might have gotten dirty with the producer 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Dan used to post behind the scenes little factoids on Twitter after new episodes of icarly and victorious episodes premiered. One of them was that he prefers to have "his girls" to have their hair down- there was one scene of Victoria and she had her hair up in a ponytail (which is why this was mentioned in the factoids), and it's just about the only time you see a girls hair up in his TV shows. I was watching a newer episode of icarly reboot and Miranda had her hair up in a messy bun and she looked SO beautiful! It's so weird just how much say Dan had over so many tiny little aspects, down to having their hair styled to fit his personal preferences.
Thankfully it seems like Victoria Justice has been in a good bit of Netflix recently. I watched a lot of it & I've really liked it
which show?
This is disgusting . Always thought it was gross how he was foot obsessed but the fact that he likely slept with a lot of these kids is heartwrenching
Bro just subtly dropping that he was in a restrictive cult
I know, so smoothly lol
Be careful with this video. I like Elizabeth Gillies but she has no problem sending out cease & desist regarding the topic of her marriage
I love Liz, but yea. She doesn't like it that people are talking about the man that obviously targeted her before being a legal adult. The man she would marry.
So if Liz is such a talented actress.. who thinks that she always tells the truth in her interviews? To me it all seems like a set up personality, this bubbly, funny, lightweight character. Maybe she just knows what to say and how to act (literally) to come off as very nice and cute? Obviously just thoughts of mine with no kinds of evidents.
I get a similar feeling. I think she is happy, but it feels she is indeed hiding something.
I just listened to an interview where Liz says she has no “female” friends ☹️ and that she spends most of her time with her husband…I think he likes her isolated. So I agree, she pretends like it’s all normal & fine in interviews, rationalizes it-but that’s not uncommon for victims-so I think you’re spot on.
@@CLB134 Yea, that's a scary thought.
@@CLB134She might not even realize it isn't normal. She's been under his manipulation so long, even pretending to be happy could be normal to her rn
@@CLB134wasn't she used to be real close with Ariana Grande?
Poor Victoria 😢
liz trying to specify that her husband had no interest in here when she was 15/16 but them dating immediately when she turned 18 just screams groomed. you don’t suddenly become an adult when you turn 18 you’re very much a young teenager and he was 40. she was just a kid and he knew that pursuing her so young isn’t good optics so they kept it hidden. she seemed so well spoken and very mature and im sure you have to be when you’re a child actor and are put to work as a kid but she was still a child. i wish her the best always she seems so genuine and is really talented.
I noticed in most of the videos that some of the cast members posted, Victoria was excluded from the group. I remember when Ariana would always sit on someone’s lap. It clicks
Dan ruined so many lives of young innocent teen girls..i hate the fact he is protected by hollyweird and will never spend any day in jail. He ruin Amanda life, rumors had it he got her pregnant in her teen years. Rumors had it jamie lynn first kid was Dan...the whole foot thing is disturbing but allowing kids to do and on tv.. 🤢 so i wouldnt doubt he slept with ariana. The casting couch is real in Hollywood and to get acting roles or album deal sometimes they have to sleep with producers, executive, directors, etc to make it in Hollywood.
I think the dynamic of the ICarly Cast was very different from the Cast of Victorious. Poor Jenette McCurdy that she had to work with crazy ass Ariana Grande.
what are you talking about crazy? stop being weird
@@krystal4301 stop trying to make other people feel bad about their views and opinions just because they're not yours. "Weird" is not in insult, it's an attempt to push others to think like yourself because you lack the ability of self reflection and your deem your own world view to be overall valid. Get over yourself and start to think.
@@Daurelius girl ur weird lol
@@krystal4301nah she’s right, you can have opinions but that doesn’t mean one is right or wrong.
And Ariana has done some awful things
@@cattykrazy581 we have ALL done awful things literally no one is perfect to judge anyone else. unless you are 100% a saint you have no right to judge someone else because they’ve made mistakes
Liz Gilies sued other youtuber bc of mentioning her merriage and calling her husband groomer
Sloan. I heard about that.
Not surprising that dude is always pushin boundaries of what he can get away with saying
the suit didnt go anywhere and he still speaks out about it to this day.
@@walkinonthebeachyes however my obserervation is that she sued him one day after posting video (april 2021 and later he was even scared to say name Jade) so she must be following tge ,,drama,, with Dan Schneider and never speak up to support Jennette. And Sl0an Last year made video about that so he was scared for long time
@@Niki72662nobody cares
The fall of Victoria Justice was weird and quick, the amount of hate that came out of sudden towards her was just astonishing! Scooter Braun, the manager of Ariana was the person behind the drama. He saw that two girls from the same show can't be both stars, so he forcefully tried to shut Victoria from the media and have killed her career before it starts. Ariana herself went silent for years without supporting Victoria even with a word to clear out the misunderstanding.
this isnt true loll😭😭 ariana has clarified the drama n debunked it so many times but ya’ll delude yourselfs it never happened or you dont care n wanna shit on ariana for no reason.
All of what Ariana did is saying "stfu" in an instagram comment, which is honestly more than enough to fix everything.@@pearlyyoj
To be fair, Tori still sang 90% of songs. Most of the songs Liz and Ariana sang in were with Tori. They did get more screen time as the show went on though
that’s the point of what he said… as it went on tori was slightly written out.
But I think one of the reasons is that Victoria's character " Tory" was annoying and boring ( not her fault though), and people liked Jade and Kat better.
The fact that Dan Schnider hasn't been MeToo'd is crazyy
Here before Liz and her team gets this removed like they did When Sloan mentioned how weird her relationship is. If she's truly happy that's great but she can't deny the ick behind it
Being groomed and used is all she has ever known so of course she thinks she is happy to the extent of even defending her abusers.
I feel so bad for all the children who were victims of Dan Schneider. Also, young Ariana reminds me soooo much of young Brittany Murphy!
Yeah me too
i feel like i need more proof abt these blind items, these accusations are so scary :(
why is nobody talking about the parents and how they’re at fault too?
finally, someone speaking the TRUTH.
i've been looking everywhere ever since jannette came out with her book, trying to understand what really happened with the cast.
this is truly terrifying. the fact that most were underage and probably didn't know any better is sickening.
is liz truly safe and happy? i feel like she could fooling all of us and even HERSELF, she said she's a con artist after all. i hope she reaches out and seeks help if she ever needs it.
anyways, thank you so much for this video it was AMAZING. i also really enjoyed your narration 👏 HOPING TO SEE MORE VIDEOS!
This makes me so mad. This girl thinks waiting until the day she turned 18, makes everything prior to, okay ? Everything about these kids shows had a sexual element to them.
Let's get Victoria Justice a show.
A quality one
That would be awesome