The DeWALT PowerPack: Juice Up Any Brand's Tools w/ 7200 Watts!

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  • @UndaCuvaChikin
    @UndaCuvaChikin Рік тому +433

    He was so preoccupied with whether or not he could, he didn't stop to think if he should. Absolute mad lad.

    • @brucewright5061
      @brucewright5061 Рік тому +7

      The advantage of mad science is not having to ask "what is the worst that could happen".

    • @calvinbarnes1721
      @calvinbarnes1721 Рік тому +4

      He should, by the way, Totally should

    • @NONO-hz4vo
      @NONO-hz4vo 11 місяців тому +2

      For sure my favorite of his creations. Brilliant.

    • @xXKisskerXx
      @xXKisskerXx 11 місяців тому +1

      I disagree. He Should do more.

    • @drewrinker2071
      @drewrinker2071 11 місяців тому

      Super awesome idea, and super cool to look at, is it practical? Nah, I wouldn't be surprised if you end up being able to get these super cheap after a year of failure to move the inventory. I need a backpack full of batteries said no contractor ever, he's going to grab his corded if he really is in a hurry and needs to get the job done. This is the complete opposite of having a "cordless" tool. If I have a choice between the backpack full of batteries or plug it into 110v, I'm going to reach for that outlet every single time. That added boost in watts, isn't worth the inconvenience of not being able to move around freely.

  • @PhillyFixed
    @PhillyFixed Рік тому +348

    Tim Taylor would be proud...
    Seems like Bosch has implemented the same "that's quite enough amps, thank you" system that Makita has on some of their tools.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 Рік тому +91

      as they should if they want to avoid milwaukee/dewalt smoke scenario :) yeah it's nice to win short tests, but in the real world usage scenario tools not smoking up is more desirable imho.

    • @thermobollocks
      @thermobollocks Рік тому +26

      AEUGH?!

    • @cerberus1166
      @cerberus1166 Рік тому

      you could always just gee i dont know, design your tools for the future? considering milwaukee and that m18 high torque is "the best" for 10 years they should over engineer the mechanical aspects and match the wiring to do the same. that would help for when batteries get more powerful.
      or just redesign tools as batteries improve. @@riba2233

    • @caleb234
      @caleb234 Рік тому +23

      Yes, well, one does typically want their tools to last longer than 2 weeks before all the smoke leaks out. 😂

    • @toolscientist
      @toolscientist Рік тому +12

      @@riba2233 looks like the 150mm grinder has a current limit. 1150 vs 1160 watts is basically the same, but 4x12ah got noticeably more RPM under load than the Forge. Circular saws are hard to overload as the gullets of the blade fill up, which limits how fast you can remove material, which limits how much torque you can put on it. Still, no current limit is a very Milwaukee thing to do.

  • @elkvis
    @elkvis Рік тому +1066

    A simple high current diode on each battery would prevent batteries from feeding back into each other
    Edit: please read the replies before adding another about how wrong I am, and that "ideal diodes" are needed instead.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Рік тому +433

      Oooh that's a good idea. I like it

    • @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
      @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse Рік тому +226

      ​@@TorqueTestChannel You can get pretty massive schottky barrier diodes for massive currents. They have less losses and voltage drop than a normal PN/Silicon diode. :)

    • @randydewees7338
      @randydewees7338 Рік тому +49

      Back when lithium primary batteries came out, we ultra runners quicky found out about not mixing fresh and partially used batteries in our flashlights.

    • @ionstorm66
      @ionstorm66 Рік тому +51

      ​@@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse1200W at 20V, is 60A, that's a ton though a diode. Better would be some LM5050-2s and big MOSFETs/GaNFETs.

    • @martijnveen5694
      @martijnveen5694 Рік тому

      for a simple high power application look at how cheap lithium jump-packs handle preventing backfeed@@TorqueTestChannel

  • @eadthryth8194
    @eadthryth8194 Рік тому +127

    I love these kind of videos. The skech factor makes everything more entertaining.

  • @jeffreycole2816
    @jeffreycole2816 Рік тому +62

    You had me in the first half, not gonna lie. I was ready to go to amazon and buy an official DeWalt battery backpack right now. Kudos for getting me so good. Good day sir!🤣

    • @PsRohrbaugh
      @PsRohrbaugh Рік тому +8

      Right? So disappointed it's not a real thing. We need Dewalt to make it happen!

    • @Dwigt_Rortugal
      @Dwigt_Rortugal 11 місяців тому +7

      I love how, in the end, he just threw some more nylon straps on it to hold the janky plastic door in place. Man, Hercules uses quality cells... that is a truly great bit of information.

    • @RadicallyHonestAutist
      @RadicallyHonestAutist Місяць тому +1

      I literally was about to send a link to my boss 🤣

  • @yoyodynepropulsion.systems
    @yoyodynepropulsion.systems Рік тому +56

    This is a throwback to the Black & Decker ThunderVolt. I have some of the pieces to this ancient system. 24v remote battery packs(lead acid!) power multiple tools.

  • @nareshangelia-sookrajjr.1365
    @nareshangelia-sookrajjr.1365 Рік тому +94

    That Milwaukee Forge battery is seriously impressive. It took 4 Hercules 12hr batteries to de throne it on the dyno. You really do get what you pay for

    • @Adroit1911
      @Adroit1911 11 місяців тому +2

      Milwaukee all day, or all week.

    • @antonioreyes421
      @antonioreyes421 8 місяців тому +1

      I’m surely but slowly moving towards Milwaukee. I’m still using Milwaukee’s lil bro Ryobi. Ryobi did last me longer than I thought it would. Already slowly growing out of them.

    • @hvymtal8566
      @hvymtal8566 6 місяців тому +1

      4 hercules 12hr batteries in a teal (Makita) case panted yellow with dewalt stickers no less
      Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

  • @markhess3030
    @markhess3030 Рік тому +81

    How do you not have more subscribers? Everybody talks about this channel.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Рік тому +54

      Can't say subscriber numbers was ever a main goal of ours, which is why we don't ever really mention subscribing during videos. As you say, the info (or fun in this case) gets around so that's the goal!

    • @moccaloto
      @moccaloto Рік тому +17

      Everybody torques about this channel

    • @Miked1332
      @Miked1332 Рік тому

      "If you don't subscribe to this channel, then fnck you..." -Ricky Bobby

    • @MrNside
      @MrNside Рік тому +7

      Subscribers used to mean something on YT, but these days it's more about watch time and engagement (comments, like/dislike)
      It makes sense when you have many channels with millions of subs, but their views are less than 10% of that on most videos. Then you have some channels with maybe 10K subs, but millions of views on some videos.
      TTC seems to be in the sweet spot. Their videos seem to settle around 25% of their sub numbers at their lowest, but spike higher up to 100%+ on some videos. That tells me they have retention regardless of subs. People watch because they are genuinely interested and not because of some "to-do list" curated by UA-cam's subscription system.
      I wouldn't be surprised if even on TTC's lower performing videos, their views from people not subscribed was still over 50%.

    • @DeFausti
      @DeFausti Рік тому +4

      I mean it's a very niche channel

  • @scotttod6954
    @scotttod6954 Рік тому +34

    20 years ago I made a fanny pack battery for a Hilti SDS hammer drill to be used by guys opening climbing routes. Was small 6v gel cells for storage and built a fold out solar panel for charging. Ended up being 18v 48 ah battery that they hung over their butts. I enjoy this back pack completely.

    • @KHALABEEB
      @KHALABEEB Рік тому +1

      How much did it weigh?

    • @scotttod6954
      @scotttod6954 Рік тому +5

      @@KHALABEEB like around 20 lbs. Pretty energy dense for the time. 9 × 6 v at about a pound and a half each. Did 30xs the holes the original nickel cadmium could do. Had a loop to hang the drill from on the pack and a 10 gauge cable hooked right to the trigger with a wheelchair disconnect on the pack side. All off the shelf BMS batteries. Was cheaper than a the bigger OEM replacement battery. Made the drilling easier having the battery weight on the body too.

  • @curtisroberts9137
    @curtisroberts9137 Рік тому +57

    I love the visual of the Dring Millwaukee and the power pack. It's like ghost busters meets Bane/HD diesel mechanic or HD tire and wheel tech. Show up to the repair yard with that and just blast wheel assemlies off semis all day while a bunch of teenagers run around in a panic trying to keep up doing the mounting and balancing.

    • @blendpinexus1416
      @blendpinexus1416 Рік тому +9

      dude. i was at a u-pick the other day and someone was running around with a pack like this just ripping parts off. his two buddies would just hold the part so he could rip through the bolts, then they'd throw it into one of the two wheelbarrows they had. rinse and repeat and before long i'd heard his uggas all over the place long after my battery had died.

    • @curtisroberts9137
      @curtisroberts9137 11 місяців тому +2

      @@blendpinexus1416 That's awesome.

    • @Dwigt_Rortugal
      @Dwigt_Rortugal 11 місяців тому +6

      It's the BFG9000!

  • @zkuz8127
    @zkuz8127 Рік тому +11

    These "Hold my beer" ideas are the best. Keep up the good work TTC.

  • @goukenslay7555
    @goukenslay7555 11 місяців тому +8

    The fact he opened the pack up and modified it had me. Man is a dedicated genius

  • @ThriftyToolShed
    @ThriftyToolShed Рік тому +12

    Brings back memories of the commando belts for Ni-Cd tools years ago. I don't know if anyone remembers them, but you could build your own Ni-Cd string for you voltage tool and simply wire it in using the old battery housing as a shell. Like an Army ammo belt or shoulder sling. They worked really good compared to the orginal packs and also kept the weight accross your waste or chest. It was nice while working off of ladders or scaffolding.

  • @demonacles
    @demonacles Рік тому +4

    I really feel like you could be my new best friend. I have shown this video to all of my family and gotten simply a wide eyed blank stare back with a single word 'no'
    Thank you for putting out content like this, it helps me prove to everyone around me that I'm not just a wierdo with a shop in his garage that sometimes catches things on fire.

  • @thetruejay20
    @thetruejay20 Рік тому +93

    10/10 would buy a backpack like this. With the proper safety features of course 😜.

    • @Xeonerable
      @Xeonerable Рік тому +13

      Its not as cool if it isn't 100% sketchy ...!

    • @tommymohlen8919
      @tommymohlen8919 Рік тому +3

      Need to live a little 😬

    • @Skobeloff...
      @Skobeloff... Рік тому +6

      fire extinguisher and running shoes

    • @ls_812
      @ls_812 Рік тому +3

      Just wear a wet t shirt from Justin Case

    • @calvinbarnes1721
      @calvinbarnes1721 Рік тому +9

      It's painted bright yellow. What other safety features could you want?

  • @michaelcrumlett187
    @michaelcrumlett187 Рік тому +8

    I love this Dr. Frankenstein skunk works stuff. I’d love to have this for lawn equipment.

  • @sculptormills
    @sculptormills Рік тому +8

    This episode just made me happy! I couldn't stop smiling while watching it. Watching the graphs is cool is and all, but watching the creativity of your channel and the projects you decide to do for fun is where I really find the most joy. Also, please the Fenix PD36R Pro when you test high-end flashlights. Thanks!

  • @Nolano386
    @Nolano386 Рік тому +2

    When I'm not actively looking for a purchase recommendation, these are my favorite types of videos.

  • @btrswt35
    @btrswt35 Рік тому +24

    The battery backpack is something I always thought might be a good idea depending on the circumstances. The tool itself can be smaller and lighter if it doesn't have a chunky battery attached to it.

    • @groomschild1617
      @groomschild1617 11 місяців тому +5

      yeah its definitely the solution for the professional landscaper. If you have to clear hundred of meters of dirt with your electric weed Wacker this is your friend

    • @goodvibes4891
      @goodvibes4891 11 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@groomschild1617running a stihl combi with cutting heads for hours and hours on end I can say, my arms appreciated the lack of battery. Plus, not needing to charge the backpack bat all day is amazing.

    • @ChevyConQueso
      @ChevyConQueso 11 місяців тому +3

      I have been wanting to just make an adapter that gives like a short 4-6' cord so I can drop the pack to get into tighter places. It's still way more convenient than dragging air hoses around, extension cords, or messing with a compressor. Be great for an M12 stubby. With all the adapters out I think I'll get it done now. Actually, I have some spare M12 battery holders at work that were once used to power some scales. Perfect.

    • @btrswt35
      @btrswt35 11 місяців тому

      @@ChevyConQueso exactly

    • @user-my5ey6ow7m
      @user-my5ey6ow7m 10 місяців тому

      I've wanted to customize a battery adapter for a backpack or just remote battery cable extension for a while. We use some of the bigger Milwaukee cordless impact guns for assembling large line size pipe for high pressure piping in our hydrostatic test stand. The vibration of the impact gun doing it's thing rattles the stock battery connection to the point where the terminal connections fail. We use stretch wrap film and duct tape to try to keep the battery connected to the gun. The big heavy batteries coupled with the harsh vibration of the gun just does not work well over time. The lightweight adapter plugged into the gun with a cable to the backpack or remote battery seems like the solution.

  • @kriid3107
    @kriid3107 Рік тому +40

    From watching the first 10 minutes alone, I have to say this is the most deranged thing I've ever seen you do. Can't say I didnt enjoy every second of the madness.
    Great video as always, Keep up the good work TTC

  • @IIlIIllII
    @IIlIIllII Рік тому +8

    The railroad maintenance department would like to speak with you. They appear to approve of the new 10hp standard for hand tools.

  • @thegamereliterest9550
    @thegamereliterest9550 Рік тому +198

    I wonder what 4 forge batteries or power stack batteries would do

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Рік тому +36

      Stacked pouch cell power tool batteries don't very much enjoy being pulled from old school +/- style. Just getting a voltage drop from them on a load tester takes a lot of tries. I'm not sure it would work or work very often or not kill them all

    • @paulwainwright5064
      @paulwainwright5064 Рік тому

      A black hole?

    • @chubbysumo2230
      @chubbysumo2230 Рік тому +43

      ​@@TorqueTestChannel since this contraption doesn't seem to care about anything but voltage, maybe consider getting some high output RC car batteries, 6ah 100c 6s batteries, 6 or 7 for density, could be fun, and they are typically cheaper than the tool brand batteries.

    • @madcow3417
      @madcow3417 Рік тому +5

      5A Powerstack can output up to something like 2A unless you have a Dewalt tool. There's some DRM shenanigans. There's a resistor you can put between a couple of leads that will fix that.

    • @thegamereliterest9550
      @thegamereliterest9550 Рік тому +1

      @@TorqueTestChannelI’m guessing you’re referring to when you used two flex batteries on the IR 1 inch. But for some reason I think the Milwaukee or dewalt will have a better result. Perhaps that backpack is best suited to the big MX FUEL Forge battery instead

  • @artor9175
    @artor9175 Рік тому +5

    Nice! The power backpack is an idea I've been considering for about 15 years now. I'm glad to see someone has been developing it. More things to think about if anyone wants to patent anything: Magnetic attachments at a wrist strap (with microfiber sweat band) to deliver power to your tools as you pick them up. Shoulder sockets for work light, filter helmet, stereo accessories, etc.

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow Рік тому

      - public domain is so much more fun, nothing ventured nothing gained, having the idea is nice - letting the field run it to wherever it ends is fantastic... Mag coupling is nice (fairly easy to work into a safe tool - positive switching makes for zero hazard when unplugged, keeping the crud off the magcontacts can be a challenge in some environments) to preserve coupling surfaces..

    • @AndrewBoheler
      @AndrewBoheler 2 місяці тому

      I mean, eventually you just get the power loader from Aliens. Make it nuclear powered and a fork lift and comes with an acetylene torch… 🤌👌 👽

  • @markchidester6239
    @markchidester6239 11 місяців тому +1

    For some reason, Myth Busters came to mind lol
    I got into an argument with a guy about this exact thing.
    He said that a larger battery won't make a tool perform any better just run longer.
    I said a larger battery will have less voltage drop therefore run at a higher voltage and be more powerful.
    Thank you for setting things straight.
    Cool channel. Just found you today!

  • @MrWizards1974
    @MrWizards1974 Рік тому +15

    So you turned back 25 years of batterie evolution and made cordless tools corded again.😜I love it

    • @mcspikesky
      @mcspikesky Рік тому +4

      Worst comment award.

    • @MrWizards1974
      @MrWizards1974 Рік тому +2

      @@mcspikesky Don't be so hard on yourself. At least you won something.

  • @MatthewDouglas805
    @MatthewDouglas805 11 місяців тому +1

    I can't express enough how awesome your forays into wonky battery builds are. It's like hot rodding cars but with different potential consequences. Thanks for the time, effort and money you put into this!

  • @larryseibold4287
    @larryseibold4287 11 місяців тому +4

    this is great. It is a big (but crazy) step towards a universal 18V battery tool interface, that i wish the US or the EU would adopt. Dont die!

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 11 місяців тому +2

      It would be nice to have the same level of interpretability as with the advent of usb-c...

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Рік тому +1

    Wow at the Testing with the 1 inch d handle Milwaukee with the custom backpack

  • @TheJensss
    @TheJensss Рік тому +7

    Haha what an awesome video! I think this concept could be taken a step further with a 3d printed case and a custom-made battery pack with a proper bms, fuses and Anderson connectors for the power leads to the tool. Higher voltage tools would also make a lot more sense for this type of applications do too current limitations and voltage drop problems with low voltages like 18v.

  • @SloppyMechanics
    @SloppyMechanics 11 місяців тому +1

    ahhh yes this is what i was asking about and you gentlemen said you had something up your sleeve lol

  • @jasonpohl2931
    @jasonpohl2931 Рік тому +5

    Seems like a good product for cheap/low capacity batteries to be used with outdoor/lawn equipment.

  • @PaganWizard
    @PaganWizard Рік тому +1

    As soon as you built this, I was going to comment about the tools giving up the little puff of magic smoke, but I decided to wait and see what happens in this test. This video did not fail my expectations. I have some of 3DPrintedAdapters adapters, that are specific for one brand of tool, and another brand of battery, and have no complaints with their performance. Unlike you, I do not have any custom pieces, and after watching this, I certainly won't be trying this for myself, I'm not THAT brave.

  • @grattetout69
    @grattetout69 Рік тому +3

    The shoulder straps are not mounted backwards, it’s just to help draining all the electrons from the batteries 😂

  • @chriskeith422
    @chriskeith422 Рік тому

    I nominate you to be awarded The Nobel Prize! Anyone else? Your channel ROCKS!

  • @Joe___R
    @Joe___R Рік тому +3

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a real dewalt version of that out in a couple of years.

  • @mcjdubpower
    @mcjdubpower Рік тому +2

    You have won the internet today for this vid 💯💥

  • @DMSparky
    @DMSparky Рік тому +7

    Totally awesome!
    As an electrician I just thought I’d mention a couple things. You can get ultra flexible silicone wire from McMaster, that would definitely help over standard building wire (if that’s what you’re using). (If wire flexibility is a problem in the pack it self.) More importantly to reduce the sketch factor for your splice in the pack you could order Multi-tap insulated Lugs the F4P IL2/0-5 from City Electric Supply are probably your least expensive option. They are a bit chunky though.
    Now I totally understand why you chose to install Hercules batteries over Forges or Powerstack since breaking either of those would be expensive quick! I doubt it would provide any higher performance than 60 21700 cells in series parallel… Although you know we are all curious to see different options. 🙂

    • @spacexvanityprojectslimite3315
      @spacexvanityprojectslimite3315 Рік тому +1

      He used vehicle jumper cables, watch the whole vid before comment! they look flexible already, he didn't use construction cables, your saying city electrics which is a UK company, if you were an electrician in the UK you would know that our colours for construction are blue for live, brown for neutral and yellow green combo for ground or earth. I'm calling you out dude, you're not an electrician.

    • @dkad7177
      @dkad7177 Рік тому

      ​@spacexvanityprojectslimite3315
      Does he have to be an electrician in the UK to be an electrician in the States? Maybe I missed your point but curious to the reference.

    • @dkad7177
      @dkad7177 Рік тому +3

      ​@spacexvanityprojectslimite3315
      So can I call you out as well for not being attentive to detail?
      He said "City Electric Supply" NOT "City Electrics"
      City Electric Supply is a U.S. based company.
      Nice try though...😅

    • @DMSparky
      @DMSparky 11 місяців тому

      @@spacexvanityprojectslimite3315 Bro what the actual F are you talking about. He literally complained about the wires in the pack itself being inflexible. LOL also TTC is not in the UK, nor am I. Would you like me to email a picture of my Canadian Red Seal Electrical ticket? I certainly hope you're not an electrician in any country, you seem to struggle with basic reading comprehension and deductive reasoning.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 5 місяців тому

      Tip for jacketed cable: SJT is by far the most common for 3-wire AC power cord, but is hard and stiff. The S is always first and stands for service (600v rating) except if followed by the J (Service Junior, 300v and thinner insulation), but critically the T following S or SJ stands for 'Thermoplastic' (for jacket AND conductor insulation) which are materials like PVC and similar which are harder and less flexible. If you want good power cables (like used in some AC grinders, saws, etc) you don't want SJTxxx or STxxx. I'm familiar with 3 suffixes after SJT those being in order: SxxO (oil-resistant jacket), sxxOO (oil-resistant conductor insulation in addition to jacket), SxxxxW (weather-resistant rating for outdoor, water and UV resistant). Don't know that much about individual wire except that first letting T means thermoplastic, N means nylon, S means silicone, R means thermoset (flexible polymers), X is cross-linked polymer which I think is also thermoset.
      Therefor, you can find/buy good replacement power cords by looking for anything starting with S or SJ without a T afterwards. Common examples being SOOW (thicker than SJ, heavy duty, oil and outdoor rated), SJOOW (thinner jacket, more flexible than Sxxx), SJO (I think you get it..). SVxxx is lighter-duty than S or SJ and commonly used for vacuum cleaners but not entirely sure if it stands for that. Not that expensive from some places online and a really good upgrade over thermoplastic cables, HD/Lowes/Menards might stock replacement cords and I think HD or Lowes also sells it by the foot.

  • @NigiriCat
    @NigiriCat Рік тому +2

    This is some ghost bustin' levels of power on your back.

  • @jeffroalpha700
    @jeffroalpha700 Рік тому +9

    I would love to see Dewalt introduce a flexible, high capacity backpack using pouch technology with these kinds of capacities. It would be great for the outdoor tools, especially if it could support the 60 volt stuff!

    • @tylersmith1468
      @tylersmith1468 11 місяців тому +1

      And a solar panel too! Just add USB A and USB C and you'll have the ultimate camping/survival battery pack too.

  • @michaelmartin2276
    @michaelmartin2276 Рік тому

    Yes ! Now you have entered the sketchy place called Red Neck engineering the party's started ! You guys have the best job ever ! Keep it up !

  • @toddlynch7282
    @toddlynch7282 Рік тому +3

    Toro has a 60v backpack for their cordless lawn equipment that’s generally meant for professionals and contractors. I’d be curious if that could be adapted to big yellow’s FlexVolt tools…. Those Toro packs are rated in Ah at the full 60v since they’re single voltage (unlike the DeWalt batteries generally rated at 20v) and go up to 10Ah. That’s 600Wh per battery!
    Edit to add: the Toro pack takes 2 batteries so it’s ultimately a 1200Wh pack.

    • @Blaquer17
      @Blaquer17 Рік тому +2

      Ego runs at 56V and their backpack is 28 AH. 1568 Wh!!

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 Рік тому +2

      Makita has 1200 and 1500wh backpacks ;)

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow Рік тому

      @@Blaquer17 ... nice

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow Рік тому +1

      - all the manufacturers lie in the advertising... lol, we just fall for it most of the time, "fool me once, my fault..." (the Nominal voltage companies are more honest in my book)
      Let"s see: 16S (LiMNC) is both "60V class" and "57.6V nominal" (67.2V fully charged...)
      ?? Who speaks truth?
      14S is 50.4V Nominal 58.8V peak..... which is what... lower energy for the same cell type, probably lower power delivery too, or the same power for more thermal stress and shorter run time - quicker battery demise too.
      LFP changes it all as that chemistry has lower voltage per cell (3.3Nom and 3.65V peak (let's say..)
      58V nomial needs 18 cells, but then the power draw is averaged across more cells, for better cell life (without getting in to the - generally - higher cycle life of LFP)
      No battery in my inventory has a single voltage - it has a characteristic curve from flat to full (very few "power meters" are at all accurate).

  • @charleswooters
    @charleswooters 11 місяців тому +1

    The scary pixie magic that is held in that little yellow/teal box is exciting 🎉
    im working on a 60 amp hour hart project that can be used for 20v hardware tools, but with a flick/push of a button, I can power the 40v lawn tools.

  • @klipschkef0144
    @klipschkef0144 Рік тому +3

    For me it's clearly tell us that, it's all about the MOTOR despite of having enormous amount of AH that are ready to supply to the motor the motor will dictate how many amps of power it needs to run under heavy load. anyways thanks for this video very informative, ineed.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 5 місяців тому

      Basically. Brushless tools in general are ultimately limited by heat and somewhere in the circuitry they all must have current monitoring/limiting or it's straight-through with current the same and only higher voltage producing more power. They would need to use significantly bigger motors with some sort of cooling for the power electronics if they're ever going to approach the power of corded tools, but batteries are nowhere near good enough to supply them for more than 10-15 minutes

  • @TheDisorderly1
    @TheDisorderly1 Рік тому +1

    This is the high quality content I've come to expect from TTC.

  • @abccde3832
    @abccde3832 Рік тому +3

    Electric chainsaw only drawback is its runtime - even 15 amp only gets you like 10min of work. This pack could shine with the dewalt 20inch saw (DCCS677B)! Would be bad to see that test?

    • @kornaros96
      @kornaros96 Рік тому

      I'm imagining a power back with 8 of those 15Ah DeWalt bricks...

    • @abccde3832
      @abccde3832 Рік тому

      God damn I wonder what would runtime be @@kornaros96

  • @Wheatley_Darwin
    @Wheatley_Darwin Рік тому +1

    That Milwaukee 1 inch impact has been an absolute want of mine for a VERY long time

  • @paligga
    @paligga Рік тому +3

    This needs a Ghostbusters Proton pack makeover for all the nutbustin' power.

    • @cpthornman
      @cpthornman Рік тому

      When there's something's stuck, in your neighborhood....

  • @EliotTruelove
    @EliotTruelove Рік тому +1

    Id love to see you test Makitas ConnectX system, theyve released a 1200w power pack and now they have a 1500w on the way

  • @superspeeder
    @superspeeder Рік тому +5

    Nicely done! You could probably shorten those cables a bunch and reduce voltage drop even more!

    • @hngbros8346
      @hngbros8346 Рік тому +4

      Assuming he's using about 6 feet of 1AWG wire here and 100 amps of current he'd drop from 20v at the battery to about 19.85v at the tool. If he cut that down to 3 feet of wire it would be about 19.92. Not sure if that would make a noticeable difference. Also, 100 amps is probably worst case here so the actual voltage drop would generally be even less. I doubt most of these tools are using 2000 watts other than maybe the saw and that Milwaukee impact.

    • @superspeeder
      @superspeeder Рік тому +1

      @@hngbros8346 very true, but they are comparing voltage drops down to tenths of a volt, and the cables seem much longer than they need to be. It was just a thought. 👍

  • @stever7638
    @stever7638 Рік тому +2

    Awesome project!.big thumbs up for taking on the task.
    I figure you have a plethora of tools, but fwiw, for crimping I recently picked up a Temco TH0005 11-ton hydraulic crimper, best crimper that I wish I had years ago lol. 10AWG-600 MCM including half sizes...I highly recommend factory direct..awesome tool. That with a Wirefy handheld crimper, perfect duo.
    I haven't soldered a big wire since...but I see the safety side of your project.
    Just wanted to toss that out, hope I didn't mimic what you already know but can't hurt to try.
    Keep up the great work.

  • @EliotTruelove
    @EliotTruelove Рік тому +10

    This really goes to show that Makita are actually paradoxically so ahead of the game yet behind on LXT packs

    • @NBSV1
      @NBSV1 11 місяців тому +3

      It’s like makita approves all the ideas someone comes up with. But, passes it though all the bean counters so by the end it’s a neat idea that isn’t nearly as usable as it should be.

  • @blindsqurill
    @blindsqurill 11 місяців тому +1

    DIY proton pack!!!
    The ghostbusters would be proud

  • @KI4HOK
    @KI4HOK Рік тому +4

    The only way to make this sketchier is to make it for the 60v dewalt tools! I’d love a backpack of 15ah batteries feeding my grinder (I suck at welding)

    • @Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
      @Tool_Addicted_Carpenter Рік тому

      I believe this does work with 60v DeWalts, they just chose the most bang for the buck with the Hercules. My experience with my Dewalt 15ah battery is that it's not the best option because of its 18650 cells. When I use it on my cordless table saw it immediately loses power when it drops to 2 bars. I don't have the same issue with my 12.0(20,700 cells) and 9.0(21700 cells). They will both run at full power until they're just about dead. Luckily I got my 15.0 on sale for $265, but if I could go back and do it again I would simply get another 12.0 for $180. $265÷15=$17.66 per AH, $180÷12=$15 per AH, so the better battery is actually less $ per AH. All that said, I do like having the 15AH for the table saws runtime, regardless of the reduction in power.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 Рік тому

      ​@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter15ah actually has more power potential than even 9ah fv. Yes, it uses 18650s but powerful ones and a lot of them (30)

    • @Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
      @Tool_Addicted_Carpenter Рік тому

      @@riba2233 I won't argue the science behind the potential. I'm certainly not an electrical engineer or expert in that field by any stretch. I'm just telling my personal experience with each battery in the field and with that I do not consider the 15ah to be the best option both economically and in performance.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 Рік тому

      @@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter yeah, not arguing about that :)

    • @stanimir4197
      @stanimir4197 3 місяці тому

      @@riba2233 higher voltage is generally better as the voltage drop is less due to lower amps

  • @BraxtonHoward
    @BraxtonHoward 11 місяців тому

    Wow, first time watching one of these in a while and you've stepped up the tech by a couple orders of magnitude.
    Really impressive.

  • @cpthornman
    @cpthornman Рік тому +3

    Cant wait to see what kind of tool destruction this may cause. We haven't seen the limit yet for a lot of these tools.

  • @r3d-1truth17
    @r3d-1truth17 Рік тому

    Dude!! I love it! This video has me grinning ear to ear and wishing I could sit in background of your video workshop and clap & cheers along with your awesomeness. Cheers

  • @stevetaylor9265
    @stevetaylor9265 Рік тому +3

    I am seeing a hoped up electric scooter in my future. Your giving me bad ideas

  • @Riftsawnengineering
    @Riftsawnengineering Рік тому +2

    Makita has a 40v 1500wh backpack battery. Builds and Stuff did a video on the 1200wh not to long ago. We need to see that tested on this channel.

  • @graniteamerican3547
    @graniteamerican3547 Рік тому +4

    how to make your cordless tools corded:

  • @Novagunner
    @Novagunner 11 місяців тому

    This .... this is real youtube content right here. loved this video!!!! everything about it... editing.. the monologue the subject matter ! great job !

  • @johnhawkinson
    @johnhawkinson Рік тому +10

    The nightmare here is that the backpack catches on fire and you can't get the straps off. Probably needs a thermal cutout at least, maybe with an audible warning.
    It's not like a tool where you can just drop it/throw it and run away.
    It would be interesting to know the voltage drop across the assembly from the battery terminals to the tool, and maybe also some clamp current meter measurements on the individual battery leads (or voltage drops across individual leads if they have known resistance).

    • @firesurfer
      @firesurfer Рік тому +2

      A seatbelt quick release is needed for the pack and a metal 50 gallon drum half filled with sand is necessary. Throw it in and dump the rest of the sand on top. Not exactly a practical solution.
      Did I mention that EMS and the fire dept should be standing by?

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow Рік тому

      - The sand is a good start (rare to see a well supplied half ton bag primed to go as needed) salt water for some brining action makes for more excitement.... sand plus salt water ??? Time to test...
      Military backpacks with quick releases are a concept well tried.

    • @athhud
      @athhud Рік тому

      Cobra buckles would be my choice.

  • @Duane2004
    @Duane2004 11 місяців тому +1

    Now it's time to run it in the "project ludicrous" DeWalt impact I feel like it would benefit extremely from the extra juice with its turbo mode it has

  • @jtbmw318ti
    @jtbmw318ti Рік тому +3

    Time to amp clamp it and see the current draw.

    • @stanimir4197
      @stanimir4197 3 місяці тому

      you had both volts and power on the screen. just divide them

  • @jonathancorbett5917
    @jonathancorbett5917 Рік тому

    So, TTC does analitical scientific tool reviews? Yeah, all of them are scientific, but some are more mad scientist.
    This is the best channel on YT.

  • @cat192
    @cat192 Рік тому +4

    April 1st already?😂

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Рік тому +1

    Wow them 12ah Hercules packs for 78 bucks a peice that is a steal compared to the Milwaukee 12ah price and even the 15ah Dewalt Price as well

  • @jeremyjedynak
    @jeremyjedynak Рік тому

    Christmas came early this year, with this video!
    Also, nice that the wife's car has a new set of short jumper cables!

  • @BNOVA
    @BNOVA Рік тому +2

    I haven't even watched the video yet and all I can say is that.... You are a mad lad lol.

  • @commonsenseisdeadin2024
    @commonsenseisdeadin2024 Рік тому +1

    Get some "fork lift battery quick connectors" and you can easily switch adapters and have them nicely attached to the tabs.
    Add a nice metal shield on the bottom that wraps up over the top edge if you think it would have any lithium runaway to cover your back and head.

  • @Xeonerable
    @Xeonerable Рік тому +1

    the "big power no boom" typed into the aliexpress search made me laugh so much.

  • @Parents_of_Twins
    @Parents_of_Twins 11 місяців тому

    You know it's good when it causes spontaneous LOL just watching the beast being made. OMG I love this channel.

  • @avellinklater3566
    @avellinklater3566 Рік тому +1

    My stihl lithium yard equipment have a 32ah 36v backpack battery. Doesn't give more power, but run all day fun.

  • @comptegoogle511
    @comptegoogle511 Рік тому +1

    The batteries in parallel reduce the internal resistance of the batteries taken individually. 1/Rtot= 1/R1+1/R2+1/R3+1/R4

  • @Griffinwoodworks
    @Griffinwoodworks Рік тому

    The looks I get at work while watching this with Tim the tool man Taylor grunts is priceless. 😂

  • @bsanders9106
    @bsanders9106 Рік тому

    This is one of my favorite UA-cam channels.

  • @davidhensel8256
    @davidhensel8256 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for all your channel does for the average consumer. I'd like to recommend a 3/4 drive Amazon test for autojare, vikky, ework, and seesii.

  • @sjgrundy
    @sjgrundy Рік тому

    Awesome!! I chuckled a lot watching this, thanks for cheering up the Monday evening here in rainy Stuttgart! :-)

  • @sidewinder193
    @sidewinder193 11 місяців тому

    Great episode, the commentary was tasteful, humerus and well placed. Cheers!

  • @Techsupport243
    @Techsupport243 Рік тому

    Well I am going to make one of these out of a massive 18650 pack now now. This is awesome! I will finally be able to use my table saw all day on one charge.

  • @bradleykornele
    @bradleykornele Рік тому

    Been waiting for dewalt to come out with backpack power for lawn equipment come on DEWALT

  • @user21XXL
    @user21XXL Рік тому +1

    You could set it up with a initial connection through a resistor(for each battery) to balance the batteries and then a series of switches to short the resistors. That way you limit the balance current but have almost 100% power in ''run'' mode. You also could try mosfet's as soft switches (with big capacitances on gates to slowly rump up the current)

  • @TheModelmaker123
    @TheModelmaker123 Рік тому

    This was a great video! I had all the fun without the cost. Keep 'em coming "Battery Busters"!

  • @melgross
    @melgross 10 місяців тому

    Man, I was so excited when I first saw the picture. I thought DeWalt came out with this.

  • @Entropy512
    @Entropy512 Рік тому +2

    You probably should use an Anderson SB-series connector (commonly used for forklifts) here, since that's properly insulated. Or at least wrap those terminals on the tool end with tape...

  • @xaytana
    @xaytana Рік тому +2

    I suggested this kind of idea _years_ ago when tools and lithium packs were first getting to the point of being unwieldy and power hungry, even before DW started pushing flexvolt on large otherwise stationary tools. A semi-corded tool where you have a short lead to a backpack or belt clip just make more sense, you're moving both a static and dynamic weight to a part of the body that doesn't have to handle it, and the tools can also benefit from it; and it's not just about weight issues, it's also size issues and endurance issues. I'm honestly surprised that Milwaukee didn't do this when they first announced their MX platform, just considering those packs are going to be close to the weight of some tools themselves.
    Also are jumper cables now the cheapest? I haven't checked cable cost in awhile, but I would've thought welding cable would've still been the affordable option.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 11 місяців тому +1

      Many companies already do this, Makita, ego, stihl, etc

  • @SpatialDragon
    @SpatialDragon 11 місяців тому

    You guys are always coming up with crafty ideas. "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." Red Green.

  • @michaelburke1023
    @michaelburke1023 10 місяців тому +1

    I think TorqueTest watches AvE channel as well (he is starting to talk the same haha). You guys need to get together and do a talking hands video together lol his hilarious commentary with your tests would be great

  • @avnut5517
    @avnut5517 Рік тому +1

    The leaf blower application is really legit.
    It could replace gas for commercial use.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 Рік тому +1

      You know that stuff already exists right?

    • @EliotTruelove
      @EliotTruelove Рік тому +1

      That's exactly what Makita is doing with there ConnectX line

  • @jjones7837
    @jjones7837 4 місяці тому

    This is something my pops would make for sure. Well played.

  • @After_Tech_Industries
    @After_Tech_Industries 11 місяців тому +1

    Online I've heard of a so called "active diode" module which is just an ic and a mosfet taking the place of a diode and it is commonly used for high power solar installments because it has less voltage drop across itself thus both letting more power flow and run cooler.
    It does however need a source of power so that it can turn on the mosfet. (
    The better ones also have a bypass diode in case of
    1. No power,
    2. Mosfet failure,
    3. Assisting the mosfet during overload

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 5 місяців тому

      Must be a marketing buzzword... transistors and especially FETs (i.e. MOSFET) like IGBTs are so widely used for high-current circuits because they have so little resistance and are thus efficient/cool. They do need control circuitry as you noted but they've been used in everything for so long and are largely why semiconductors like diodes and transistors were so revolutionary over inefficient vacuum tube and linear power supplies without FETs. First time seeing the term 'active diode' but not surprised it's a solar buzzword that basically all power supplies use.
      That said it does suck when power transistors overheat and fail (like in my Panasonic Plasma TV..) and is already a problem for all the new 'inverter' AC motor stuff like air conditioners and furnaces. They can fail out of nowhere but it's especially bad if manufacturers cheap out and don't have sufficient cooling for them.

  • @D3M3NT3Dstrang3r
    @D3M3NT3Dstrang3r Рік тому

    This is my kinda stuff right here. Love to see the yolo engineering! Definitely something I would come up with given the money, time, opportunity!

  • @rawrmusic55
    @rawrmusic55 Рік тому

    I can’t help but think ghostbusters when I see this in action. I’m here for it.

  • @wiredforstereo
    @wiredforstereo Рік тому +1

    What I really need is a DeWalt Flexvolt 60v version for my string trimmer and leaf blower. A backpack with 4 batteries would mean I don't have to carry 4 batteries around the yard in my pockets. Grinder would be awesome too, but that's less of an issue because if you're grinding out a whole battery, it's time for a break anyway. Also, who knows how it would affect maneuverability. But being able to weed eat the whole property without having to switch batteries would be very nice.

  • @acecabezon
    @acecabezon Рік тому

    Awesome. I've been asking for one of these from Ridgid for awhile now, hopefully your video inspires them.

  • @emmetmyers
    @emmetmyers Рік тому

    There's a similar comment right up when I was also going to recommend high amp diode isolating every batteries oftentimes we forget about the simple old school solutions.
    In recent times they've become more expensive, I have some saved from early solar panels that were decommissioned and taken out of army gen-sets

  • @hjvisagie
    @hjvisagie Рік тому +1

    Please test that awesome thing on the Makitas, we have been waiting so long for makita to come out wit a 9ah

  • @ChevyConQueso
    @ChevyConQueso 11 місяців тому

    These are my favorite episodes. 😂 But that Forge though.... damn. That thing is impressive as hell. Can't wait for the 8-12 amp hour.

  • @WHSHAFT
    @WHSHAFT Рік тому +1

    Welcome to the new HERCULES QUADCULES PACK!!!!!!!!!!! .... this needs to be an actual thing....

  • @lahma69
    @lahma69 Рік тому

    This channel and its videos are SO damn satisfying to my (admittedly) male-centric brain..

  • @prototype3a
    @prototype3a Рік тому +2

    Kinda wish you had painted the backpack to look like a big Energizer cell.