Gripen VS SU-30 Flanker BVR Dogfight | DCS World

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  • @snent468
    @snent468 2 роки тому +74

    You deserve more subs man!! Great vid.

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  2 роки тому +8

      I really appreciate it buddy! Thanks so much

    • @KayleeBlakeBTSARMY
      @KayleeBlakeBTSARMY Рік тому +4

      Yes without a doubt you deserve more subs and I think you’ll get them just keep up the excellent videos bud!! Big fan here, I even have my fiancé watch with me as she is an aviation fan and knowledgeable too!! I have been subscribed for quite a while I found you while watching GS vids a while back. Excellent content seriously and your quite the pilot, excellent and I truly enjoy your videos man keep it up my guy 😊😊

  • @truthseeker9454
    @truthseeker9454 2 роки тому +9

    9:58 - Man, Longshot had that Gripen moving so fast the sonic boom nearly knocked the camera over as he flew past! 😄

  • @elliotcmoussa
    @elliotcmoussa 2 роки тому +7

    11:17 You jumpscared me here! That sonic boom in the transition made me think you were about to pull a GS!

  • @avramnovorra
    @avramnovorra Рік тому +9

    What i love about BVR fights is that you can't see the missile itself until it's way too late, it adds tension like a well-made horror movie.. i need MORE

  • @HeirofCarthage
    @HeirofCarthage 2 роки тому +90

    I am shocked more countries aren't buying the Gripen in real life. It seems like such a budget friendly option for smaller countries and very capable.

    • @RJFlyer
      @RJFlyer 2 роки тому +29

      Well now the F-35 is just as cheap and much more capable (and with more logistical support too). Why do 4.5th Gen when you can have a more capable 5th Gen platform for same price?

    • @stark5353
      @stark5353 2 роки тому +16

      The F-16 is cheaper and just as capable, the F-35 is similarly priced and much more capable. Buying American planes also gives you favorable treatment in relations with the US. Sweden wont allow the sale of planes to the tinpot dictatorships that the US won't sell to (Russia sells to them instead). Just some of the reasons the Gripen isn't selling well.

    • @flyboymike111357
      @flyboymike111357 2 роки тому +9

      Low production numbers. A number of countries flirted with the idea. But under artesian workshop conditions Saab will never crank them out fast enough.

    • @gaiofattos2
      @gaiofattos2 2 роки тому

      @@flyboymike111357 And Brazil won't fabricate Gripens to SAAB like they think back in 2018.

    • @flyboymike111357
      @flyboymike111357 2 роки тому +4

      @@Bolter024 Pretty low production as well. I think a lot of the countries that wanted the Gripen wanted the Rafale, too. Brazil comes to mind.

  • @edwardking186
    @edwardking186 Рік тому +4

    Those IRIS-T loop around kills never get old! I love them! The new Python 5!😂

  • @M167A1
    @M167A1 2 роки тому +31

    Love the Grippen

    • @andersnoren6070
      @andersnoren6070 2 роки тому +7

      Gripen, not Grippen. It´s pronounced Gree-pen.

    • @M167A1
      @M167A1 2 роки тому +4

      @@andersnoren6070 Griffin :-p
      Thanks for the clarification

    • @andersnoren6070
      @andersnoren6070 Рік тому +3

      @@M167A1 No worries. ;)

  • @Fl-Pride
    @Fl-Pride 2 роки тому +25

    Man that Gripen is such a stunning plane

    • @davedeville6540
      @davedeville6540 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, it’s design has this F-1 vibe going on

    • @razorback139
      @razorback139 Рік тому +2

      yes sir. Whether its the C variant or the E variant... Both are very amazing fighters of the 4th Gen block of fighters

  • @184Kitkat
    @184Kitkat Рік тому +11

    Love the commenting and explaining all the time. Easier to follow the events even if I happen to look away for a sec. Keep em up!

  • @andrewrogers3067
    @andrewrogers3067 2 роки тому +40

    Man, even with all the incredible flying you did, it was a close fight both rounds, but you came out on top.
    I’m assuming it was the Su30SM you were fighting right? If so, how do you think the Su30MKI with Astra missiles would fair? Think the MKI would fare better or worse? IDK which Flanker is better between the two.

  • @debbiestimac5175
    @debbiestimac5175 Рік тому +5

    The best part was when you admitted that you did not do a great job working the MAR, as your opponent did. You admitted your mistakes and applied it to the next fight, well done! 😎 Your inner monologue spoken out loud is helping many, many people understand what is going on and how they need to tackle air combat the next time they fly their sim missions. Proud of you as always!

  • @zahnatom
    @zahnatom 2 роки тому +65

    Man the IRIS-T is just ridiculous

    • @keepingcalm6469
      @keepingcalm6469 Рік тому +1

      I always wounder how close that is to real live...

    • @zahnatom
      @zahnatom Рік тому +2

      @@keepingcalm6469 well according to some articles its quite realistic. it uses MIDS datalink to guide itself towards the target and the lock on(after launch). its specifically designed to be able to do this

    • @CookieMonster-nt8hh
      @CookieMonster-nt8hh Рік тому +1

      @@zahnatom imo its still underperforming. Gripen would be able to utilize the HMD and missile warning system to lock targets beyond 90 degrees. something that is understandably yet sadly not modeled in the mod.

    • @zahnatom
      @zahnatom Рік тому +1

      @@CookieMonster-nt8hh definitely. it should use some kind of datalink for better targeting and use a high-low-high thrust motor for maximum maneuverability for these situations

    • @CookieMonster-nt8hh
      @CookieMonster-nt8hh Рік тому

      @@zahnatom its gonna be interesting to see how TrueGrit/ Heatblubr implements that missile. This thing is gonna be deadlier in the merge than any other Fox 2 in the game

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan4566 Рік тому +10

    Round1 - What a missile! I actually felt sorry for him. Another GREAT video - as always. Glad to see more content from you recently, LS !

  • @checkmate7745
    @checkmate7745 2 роки тому +5

    11:19 man my heart goes out🤣

  • @dunc.macleod
    @dunc.macleod 2 роки тому +8

    Thanks for the Gripen video! Those canard bois dont get much love from DCS

  • @technowelliebobs4779
    @technowelliebobs4779 Рік тому +5

    Those missiles are actually insane. Looks like they belong in sci-fi!

  • @MattWaller04
    @MattWaller04 Рік тому +4

    Almost at 50k subs! Keep up the great work LS!

  • @gustavolrcoelho
    @gustavolrcoelho 2 роки тому +13

    My man doing God's work! Thanks for the Gripen content :)

  • @andreazaramella6689
    @andreazaramella6689 2 роки тому +2

    Fabulous gripen, i'll wait for the typhoon🤩...
    Good video long shot as always👍👍👍👍

  • @tmytyson
    @tmytyson Рік тому +1

    A fun video would be rounding up some buddies for Battle of the Canards: A WVR battle royale between the JAS39 Gripen, SU30SM Flanker-H, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Dassault Rafale. May the best 'nard win.

  • @SoloRenegade
    @SoloRenegade 2 роки тому +3

    nice bit of flying, could have gone either way it seems, but you managed to go 2 for 2

  • @brianmaynard7320
    @brianmaynard7320 Рік тому +1

    Great fights, LS!! You're really picking up your game!! Keep reaching for the stars!! More subs every day!!

  • @matthewwade4196
    @matthewwade4196 2 роки тому +13

    The Gripen has looked like a wicked little fighter in DCS. The Swedes put together a great package on it. Surprised its not a bigger seller with the upgraded engine as it seems rather budget friendly compared to some of its peers.

    • @davedeville6540
      @davedeville6540 Рік тому +6

      I believe the Gripen is a very competitive package for air forces with a predominantly defensive mission set.
      It’s not really built with penetrating ground attack in mind.
      However, it’s a clever interceptor that will stay hidden, pop up and shoot and then quickly land on a forward positioned make shift road base and rearm within 15 minutes.
      This means you get many more sorties out of every Gripen aircraft compared to a F-35 that needs to ferry longer distances and will take longer to rearm and service.
      The reason it hasn’t had more sales success is mainly politics (who do you want as your ally: USA or Sweden?) and the fact that to get optimal performance out of the Gripen System you need to rethink and reshape your air force strategy.
      For Ukraine the Gripen system would be ideal.

    • @CH1K3N99
      @CH1K3N99 Рік тому +3

      @@davedeville6540 I think you hit the nail on the head here.
      So many seem to forget that many of these planes are scalpes in military doctrine rather than a do all.
      The eurofighter is the fastest climber after a scramble, because that's what it needs to do primarily. Defend sea borders and climb HIGH FAST.
      The Gripen is protecting very tight borders, so has a short distance to defend, but needs to be ready everywhere invisibly.
      France is all of the above, and on the African continent, so they built a true in house multi role jack of all mass communicating plane.
      And frankly it feels like most of the American aircraft doctrine is: Cruising to distant engagement zones, often in questionable territory, engage and go home as safe as possible (high, fast, long radar)
      Russia is a bit harder, but I'd say: Offence and defence have the right tool for the vast part of Russia you are over?? (When you can mine the raw materials airaft are free, but R&D is not. So build specific aircraft: attack, intercept, scout, escort, heavy, light, (Su-34 for DCS?)

  • @KayleeBlakeBTSARMY
    @KayleeBlakeBTSARMY Рік тому

    My fiancé and I share an account, she does her thing and I do mine but we both enjoy your uploads quite a lot! but we both enjoy your videos you’ve turned into an elite pilot truly!! Like I said I’ve been watching and subbed for a long time!! You deserve hundreds of thousand subs!! I rarely post but wanted to let you know the content is second to none! Love when you and GS make vids together also! Just keep it up man ! 😀😀

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  Рік тому

      I really appreciate the kind words, means a lot. Thanks so much buddy!

  • @davidsmith8997
    @davidsmith8997 2 роки тому +2

    Good fight by Toxic! Fun video.

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 2 роки тому +3

    After that harrowing fight, all I can say is thank God for IRIS-Ts.

  • @Wyvern1-1
    @Wyvern1-1 Рік тому +2

    I think meteor is relatively useless in close range due to its ramjet engine, whereas irist has relatively longer range for an ir missile

  • @maitreytelang2312
    @maitreytelang2312 Рік тому +1

    Hey LS, how about a redo of this video with the Flanker carrying missiles under its engine nacelles and with couple of long range FOX-2s? Please do it when you’re in the Flanker. You’re crazy good anyways, but in a Flanker, you’re OP.

  • @fl398motorsports3
    @fl398motorsports3 Рік тому

    The Gripen is a cool airplane, but I can’t get over The Who Framed Roger Rabbit vibe.

  • @tomas7158
    @tomas7158 2 роки тому

    Great one. That camo fits the Gripen well. And then the IrisT turn. Thnx for that bwr against a skilled aponent.

  • @B14ckic3
    @B14ckic3 2 роки тому +2

    @Longshot Excellent video again! For the 50K sub do a Live BVR Dogfight, 1 vs 1, or maybe even 2 vs 2 !!!

  • @Killflap
    @Killflap Рік тому +1

    Great fight from both of you 👏

  • @stevemc6010
    @stevemc6010 2 роки тому +7

    Drippin' in the Gripen

  • @RM-el3gw
    @RM-el3gw Рік тому

    That was exciting to watch! You really earned that first kill!

  • @n0kodoko143
    @n0kodoko143 2 роки тому +3

    Grippen kinda reminds me of the F16XL

    • @davedeville6540
      @davedeville6540 Рік тому +2

      Or a delta winged version of the F-20 Tigershark

  • @731trident
    @731trident Рік тому

    That was an awesome longshot, Longshot!

  • @ricardopieper11
    @ricardopieper11 2 роки тому +1

    the gripen HUD is the coolest one

  • @riddlex
    @riddlex Рік тому

    Excellent video! IrisT is an awesome Fox 2 missile.

  • @jnx4803
    @jnx4803 2 роки тому +2

    Iris-T, the missile which remembers XD

  • @SledgeFox
    @SledgeFox Рік тому

    Very exciting from start to finish, please more Gripen! Thank you very much!

  • @BeingFireRetardant
    @BeingFireRetardant Рік тому

    Great BVR fight, that came down to some white hot nap of earth flying, that ended with exceptionally capable Fox-2's, and you did it not once, but twice.
    From the defensive.
    _______

  • @justinpridham7919
    @justinpridham7919 Рік тому

    Beautiful commentary on round 1. I'll continue

  • @andrewmorke
    @andrewmorke Рік тому

    Thanks. I love the Gripen.

  • @off_grid_javelin
    @off_grid_javelin Рік тому

    Even the most advanced model of gripen E is half the cost of F35 when comparing lifetime costs. I don't know why people say the dogfighting era is gone because bvr missiles are still very "evade-able".

  • @dandaly7305
    @dandaly7305 Рік тому

    First, tell us the range occasionally for our SA. Second, turn off your radar and rely on RWR if you are 'trying to sneak up on him'. If you're transmitting, he knows where you are... at 9:28, you say "see how he changed vector?" No. Put a circle around the display you see that on, and it gives us an idea of where he is. Interesting video, though

  • @pappajag
    @pappajag 2 роки тому +1

    I love it when you challenge yourself

    • @wilsonrawlin8547
      @wilsonrawlin8547 2 роки тому

      Agreed. LS is always doing that with his tactics.

  • @busterdee8228
    @busterdee8228 Рік тому +1

    Intense. Respect to both.

  • @ediss821
    @ediss821 Рік тому

    Good Job Longshoot

  • @mynamejeff4656
    @mynamejeff4656 Рік тому

    no way that fox 2 gonna track like that XDD

  • @penguin9725
    @penguin9725 Рік тому +1

    Oh my God, why is this flanker constantly turning away instead of pushing!?

    • @ironic8340
      @ironic8340 Рік тому

      Idk, people who play against youtubers always seem to not know what to do

  • @petro3366
    @petro3366 Рік тому

    These cinematic shots are so good

  • @TheSithTeacher
    @TheSithTeacher Рік тому

    07:20 flaring and still in afterburner... doomed

  • @EGLately
    @EGLately Рік тому

    so with these mods, they aren't really capturing the planes abilities are they? Or are they just using like an vipers stats and changing the the appearance?

  • @internetposta7389
    @internetposta7389 2 роки тому +14

    Gripen RCS is massively lower IRL than as modeled in DCS. it's an SU killer.

    • @briarrandolph307
      @briarrandolph307 2 роки тому +1

      Radar cross section correct?

    • @tonyrun5802
      @tonyrun5802 2 роки тому

      @@briarrandolph307 yep

    • @tonyrun5802
      @tonyrun5802 2 роки тому +4

      source is...?

    • @Duron13
      @Duron13 2 роки тому +4

      @@tonyrun5802 "trust me".

    • @tomas7158
      @tomas7158 2 роки тому

      That wont matter with the new EW suite. But rcs is low.

  • @ferdeboergd256
    @ferdeboergd256 Рік тому +1

    Great duels! And great action shots. You have a good taste in kinematics.

  • @veyev4320
    @veyev4320 2 роки тому +1

    Such a great fight!! Love it!!

  • @axlsane427
    @axlsane427 Рік тому

    The Meteor has a Maximum range of 200 km, R-37 is said to have a 150-398 km range. How can you say that you (with Meteors) can outrange the Flanker?

  • @letsgo_inc
    @letsgo_inc Рік тому +1

    Lol, why worry about out-rating the two circle when the missile can do it for you?

  • @scotscheideman9800
    @scotscheideman9800 2 роки тому

    Glad to see another Gripen Video,,, do more!!

  • @abhishekgiri1201
    @abhishekgiri1201 Рік тому +1

    R73 is under performing in DCS

  • @netwrkguy
    @netwrkguy 2 роки тому

    Have you applued for any of the USAF drone pilot pisitions they are advertising for? They have turned F16s into 10/12G Supersonic unmanned drones.

    • @jesperviktorsson8027
      @jesperviktorsson8027 2 роки тому

      Source? Dont doubt it can be done.. Doubting it has been done... And dont give me some target drone bullshit

  • @LighthouseProductions1
    @LighthouseProductions1 2 роки тому +1

    One of my favorite jets

  • @davidreeves8388
    @davidreeves8388 Рік тому

    You think the gripen would be a top seller to countries like turkey Greece Pakistan Brazil etc etc

  • @user-wf7gp4es5i
    @user-wf7gp4es5i 2 роки тому

    Is that ok to try Gripen VS. F16V in rate fight??? A lot of people said Gripen's rate fight data better than F16V!!!

  • @williamdufour
    @williamdufour 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing fight! Please more of Gripen, Eurofighter et Rafale! Lovely planes

  • @LongShotChannel
    @LongShotChannel  2 роки тому +3

    Check out the Store: www.longshotstore.com/
    Join the Discord channel: discord.gg/drNE6bT
    Hey guys! In this DCS World Simulator video I'm flying the JAS39 Gripen against a SU30 Flanker flown by Toxic, thanks so much for the help!
    We are fighting in a BVR fight (beyond visual range).
    Hope you guys enjoy!

  • @peterweller8583
    @peterweller8583 2 роки тому

    I'd rather be lucky than good if I could live too.

  • @omaral-maitah181
    @omaral-maitah181 2 роки тому +3

    do a new Su 35 Thrust Vectoring video 🙏🏽😁

  • @Rhawk.4
    @Rhawk.4 Рік тому

    Could you do wwi dogfights

  • @aaronjohnson2565
    @aaronjohnson2565 Рік тому

    is there a Gripen E/Gripen NG mod out?

  • @mendezzz8948
    @mendezzz8948 2 роки тому +1

    Brazil take 40 gripes E/F

  • @dejannacic6292
    @dejannacic6292 Рік тому

    missle do loop only in the game

  • @Steve_Hayden
    @Steve_Hayden 2 роки тому

    That Fox 2 isn't fair.

  • @MrKnoxguy101
    @MrKnoxguy101 Рік тому

    Gripen and rippin..

  • @soumyajitsingha9614
    @soumyajitsingha9614 Рік тому

    Please make a video on the Tejas mod and we'd like to see how far it has progressed

    • @davedeville6540
      @davedeville6540 Рік тому

      The Tejas is a rather odd fighter for the 2020’s.
      What is the actual thinking behind the design. What is it built to do exactly?

    • @soumyajitsingha9614
      @soumyajitsingha9614 Рік тому

      @@davedeville6540 it's actually kinda shares similar philosophy as the Gripen A B C the older variants does as Tejas is also a light weight fighter making use of reliable GE engine and Tejas has a very similar payload capacity and range and a greater service ceiling than Gripen also it's now equipped with AESA radar and has Astra BVR missile which give it a range of 110 km BVR capabilities so if you compare the Tejas mk 1 and Mk 1a it's very similar to that of Gripen older variants and also has more components and radar absorbent material used and a superior fly by wire system so that's it and Tejas mk 2 will be similar to Gripen E and most likely it will be a bit superior

    • @davedeville6540
      @davedeville6540 Рік тому

      Ok, thanks for the answer.
      Why do say it will be superior to the Gripen?

    • @soumyajitsingha9614
      @soumyajitsingha9614 Рік тому

      @@davedeville6540 well because of the price point that's it and also due to more composite materials radar absorbent material use reducing RCS and also better fly by wire along with its service record of zero crashes although to be honest Gripen for the time being the Gripen E to be more specific is superior to both Tejas mk 1 and Mk 1a but we'll have to see how it fares against Tejas mk 2 as for Tejas mk 1a is kinda superior mainly due to avionics when compared to older Gripens

    • @davedeville6540
      @davedeville6540 Рік тому

      @@soumyajitsingha9614 How come India do not offer the Tejas for export?

  • @hemendraravi4787
    @hemendraravi4787 2 роки тому

    holy shit 1 meteor missile costs 2 million euros , how many meteor missiles are even produced ?

  • @coquibunny8797
    @coquibunny8797 Рік тому

    👍

  • @guventokgoz5812
    @guventokgoz5812 2 роки тому +1

    I watch your videos on my TV late at night, a little less sonic booms in your videos please :)

  • @maitreytelang2312
    @maitreytelang2312 Рік тому +1

    There is far fetched and there’s this….

  • @manoouu
    @manoouu 2 роки тому

    As good as the gripes seems on simulations it’s not a good package due to its serviceability and high failure rates in the past. Not a good deal for many smaller countries.

  • @BlyGuy
    @BlyGuy 2 роки тому

    Is there a Gripen in DCS with the single large display?

  • @BlackMasterRoshi
    @BlackMasterRoshi 2 роки тому

    morel ike Su-30 WANKER

  • @miladinperic837
    @miladinperic837 Рік тому

    Gripes can win in a battle against Flanker only in your dreams

    • @shi01
      @shi01 Рік тому +1

      There were an excercise with Thai Gripen and Chinese J-11 aka modernised Su27 so flankers in 2015. The J-11 were superior in dogfights, but absolutly got slauthered in BVR when the Gripen could use simulated Meteor missiles.

    • @davedeville6540
      @davedeville6540 Рік тому

      Opinion or fact?
      The Flanker is being shot down by SAMs and Manpads every week in i Ukraine. If they can’t stay alive against ground forces I don’t see them surviving against a modern western air force.
      But your name tells me you might consume a different flavour of propaganda than me. Slavic?

  • @mladenpredojevic241
    @mladenpredojevic241 Місяць тому

    You outrange him?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣