Gun Purchase Delayed / Denied ? Your Address Will Be Sent To Feds & Local LEO - An Explanation

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  • @2aEdu
    @2aEdu  2 роки тому +18

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    • @john.wick1
      @john.wick1 2 місяці тому

      Is this the same as a Delay Status when considering a Form 4 ? Asking because I currently have a Form 4 in Delay Status, and the FFL didn't say ANYTHING about having any knowledge of any kind about having to provide my address to the NCIS / FBI Delay. Should I inform my FFL? OR Iis that different from this video?

  • @johnnydroptopfc3s836
    @johnnydroptopfc3s836 2 роки тому +111

    A RIGHT DELAYED… IS A RIGHT DENIED!!!!

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +11

      True!

    • @michaelragusa5138
      @michaelragusa5138 2 місяці тому

      I agree.

    • @Whatsthedealsquirter
      @Whatsthedealsquirter Місяць тому +1

      Yeah im a pretty law abiding level headed person and I was delayed😡gotta have a concealed carry to buy on the spot without a problem

  • @jeffreywilliams3944
    @jeffreywilliams3944 3 місяці тому +11

    My ex wife accused me of domestic violence 25 years ago in 1999. In 2024 when I could not buy a personal protection hand gun at 63 years old. They first thing I thought was that I hate that woman that did that to me 25 years ago.

    • @michaelragusa5138
      @michaelragusa5138 Місяць тому +1

      That is one of the reasons that I have never married, have never had a "live in" relationship; and have never had any children. I have heard so many horror stories from divorcees about marriage and "living together."
      On a more humorous note, I majored in mathematics and physics in college. Mathematics is my wife, and physics is my mistress. Studying math and physics will never lead to a gun denial!

  • @jerroddooley374
    @jerroddooley374 5 місяців тому +5

    I don’t think people realize how huge of an infringement this is. They also don’t realize how often denials and days are issued. I’m a retired police officer and I stopped by academy about 15 years ago to pick up a new backup gun. I’m in a marked patrol car and full uniform. After about 20 minutes I decided on a little.380 and started the paperwork. By this time, there are several people waiting at the gun counter. Then the employee tells me in front of everyone that I was denied. People just stared at me like I was a dirty cop or an impersonator. Talk about feeling humiliated. It took me countless phone calls, letters from a district judge and district attorney, as well as my chief of police, to finally get my name cleared. Turns out, someone who spelled their name the same as me was a convicted felon and they thought it was them trying to buy a gun. Even though they had all my information, and drivers license, they denied me. If it can happen to an officer in uniform, it can happen to you. In my opinion, they need to completely do abolish background checks. Criminals ain’t buying their guns from reputable ffl’s. Every gun control law only affects us good folk.

  • @Airsoftforall
    @Airsoftforall Рік тому +10

    Ever since I was vocal about Biden I have been delayed! The delay is from 30 seconds to 7 days.

  • @commonsense7057
    @commonsense7057 Рік тому +23

    I just got a delay on a firearm in Florida. I have a CCW and have purchased many firearms over the years. Yet here I am, paid for the weapons permit and jumped through the hoops, and yet I have been delayed. This is beyond ridiculous and infuriating.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому +3

      It sucks. Happens to me all the time ☹️

    • @jameslelandmagofna4487
      @jameslelandmagofna4487 Рік тому

      Same boat. How long did you wait?

    • @commonsense7057
      @commonsense7057 Рік тому +2

      @@jameslelandmagofna4487 Today is day 7 and I haven't heard from the store yet. Probably going to go up there tomorrow. Has to be a mistake on the paperwork somewhere. Doesn't make any sense.

    • @alexsoghanalian1413
      @alexsoghanalian1413 Рік тому +1

      I am in the same position as you and have a ccw here in Florida. I’m on day 3 and always get approved. What could of gone wrong on the dealers end with paperwork

    • @commonsense7057
      @commonsense7057 Рік тому +2

      Today on day 30 the store called me this morning and told me the background check just came back clear this morning and I can come to pick the gun up. I have never waited longer than a couple of hours for a background check to come back. I will be heading up there shortly and will see if they have any idea why it took exactly 30 days to come back.

  • @Black84Beard
    @Black84Beard Рік тому +11

    Retired US Army Combat Veteran with three combat rotations to Iraq was part of a counterterrorism task force and I get deleyed once in a while as well! God bless America!🇺🇸

  • @davecamilleri9411
    @davecamilleri9411 2 дні тому

    I am former LEO, I live in Wyoming, I have had a current concealed carry permit since 1994. In 2001 I traveled to Billings, MT to purchase a new hunting rifle, I spent the entire day at the gun shop waiting for my approval, it took over 8 hours! About 8 years ago I wanted to purchase a 22 rifle for my then son in law for Christmas, I filled out the on line form at Cabela's in Billings, MT and my approval was once again delayed! I told them to cancel the transaction. I returned home and walked out of the gun shop within minutes after showing my concealed carry license. What a huge PIA!!!!

  • @Tech-gm9fd
    @Tech-gm9fd Рік тому +19

    During a trip to a gun store the associates behind the counter commented every background check that day was delayed including himself. And this is more than one store and different days. This should be a class action lawsuit.

    • @504Trey
      @504Trey Рік тому

      Guns are dangerous & should be delayed anyway 👌🏾

    • @thunder21x
      @thunder21x 11 місяців тому +18

      @@504Trey your commenting privileges should be delayed.......or revoked.

    • @JohnnyBravo02
      @JohnnyBravo02 10 місяців тому

      @@504Trey you’re an idiot. Somebody that already has 20 guns , delaying a purchase on the 21 one isn’t making anything safe. Criminals don’t follow laws

  • @MrSethamessiah
    @MrSethamessiah 4 місяці тому +15

    Sounds like they're building the national gun database

  • @harrygrimley4352
    @harrygrimley4352 2 роки тому +49

    The simple answer is they want all this information so they know who THEY should be afraid of. 🤔

    • @FragoutDesign
      @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому +5

      and they want us to report on yall too if youre being weird and shady...

  • @johnshea2395
    @johnshea2395 2 роки тому +55

    Can we have NICS checks run on every state and federal elected official before each of their votes? Should not the public know whether they are clean enough to buy and own firearms? Name, office held, proceed, denied and delayed should be enough. No individual with a firearm is potentially more dangerous to the public welfare than an elected official with a vote.

    • @FragoutDesign
      @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому +3

      lol we just need govt to stop growing at the rate it is. im still trying to process today, they dont make it easy and its clear theyre not making it easier for FFLs either. the only handout i got today was pretty much a threat and made it clear theyre coming for our licenses and we better be above par on everything or we will lose it. no excuses.

    • @Hawkeye62
      @Hawkeye62 2 роки тому

      How about age restrictions?

    • @Joncenalol235
      @Joncenalol235 5 місяців тому +2

      Criminal convictions don't bar one from office.

    • @glcart-cs5sc
      @glcart-cs5sc 2 місяці тому

      ......🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @kenneth6847
    @kenneth6847 Рік тому +10

    Relative went in an Academy today and asked him why he was in a different city than his residence. He told them it didn’t matter because his residence is in Texas, same as the store. They gave him a ration of blather.
    Stay the Hell out of Academy when you buy your firearms

  • @JoSt5646
    @JoSt5646 Рік тому +15

    Just arrived from the Philippines last night into San Francisco intl airport... Was the only one on the whole plane set aside for additional screening (open your luggage for customs).
    I went to the B line expecting long snaking lines... It was ONLY me.
    An officer was watching, already knew who I was (they were communicating with the original customs that told me to go to Line B) and separated me from my traveling group but not far enough that they all heard "Do you know why you were sent here?" I said no. He said "We're you recently denied a firearm?". I said oddly enough yes. He said thats why. Your info is now sent to local law enforcement as well as Customs and Border Patrol. This is to ensure you didn't go abroad to purchase firearms."
    I said "Thank you for the info. First, if I wanted to illegally purchase I firearm... I wouldn't be doing it in the Philippines where it caught I would spent who knows how long down some dark hole of a crappy prison eating rats. I'd drive down to Oakland and pick one up thru the drive thru McDonalds."
    Anyway... That's what's going on now. And the reason for the denial FYI is they claimed I had a 273 DV (domestic violence) conviction. INCORRECT. I had 272 NON DV and a 10 year ban which ended in 2010. I have already purchased legally a Glock and only had to deal with a delay. So now the gov is directly LYING forcing me to jump thru hoops.

    • @googlegmail9888
      @googlegmail9888 7 місяців тому

      Oh no. The official collapse of America has begun

  • @bob_mosavo
    @bob_mosavo 2 роки тому +12

    One time I was picking up a lower at my regular FFL, and the gentleman helping me said my check would probably come back as "Delay" because everyone that day had come back "Delay." He suspected that it was due to a lot of checks taking place. It was another record-setting month for NICS checks. Fortunately, mine came back proceed, and we were both surprised, since my checks seem to take A LOT longer than most at that FFL. If 9 of 10 "Deny" statuses are incorrect, how many "Delay" status turn out to be a "Deny" status?

  • @darrellmillner930
    @darrellmillner930 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you, just ran across your site. Solid, detailed info. Thank you

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful! 👍

  • @stevenwagner9912
    @stevenwagner9912 2 роки тому +11

    I miss the days of just filling out the paper and then leaving the store. interesting we had fewer school shootings then.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +4

      Yes, very interesting......

  • @johnklink4825
    @johnklink4825 4 місяці тому +5

    Great piece. I have a “ delayed” on a firearm. I cancelled the buy. I don’t want the firearm.

    • @log7029
      @log7029 3 місяці тому +1

      Considering doing the same at this point.

    • @michaelragusa5138
      @michaelragusa5138 Місяць тому

      Read my comment. This is what the government wants! Delays are a tactic to discourage you from buying a gun 🔫.

  • @johnnydroptopfc3s836
    @johnnydroptopfc3s836 2 роки тому +14

    My delays are indefinite…. I’ve waited 30 days for a purchase with no response. I went to another store… Delayed…. Finally found my local store that goes by Brady law. Getting as much as I can before this shit kicks in.

  • @OneLoveDesign
    @OneLoveDesign 2 роки тому +4

    Fueling the signal for a true patriot 🇺🇸😘

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you

  • @itstoph313
    @itstoph313 Рік тому +13

    Any advice on what to do for those who were wrongfully denied?

  • @vicious9864
    @vicious9864 Рік тому +2

    Great video. Just bought a gun thinking it'd be fine cause I already own two and already bought one of them in the same location who just told me I was denied and I have to appeal.

  • @jasonmaceyko1902
    @jasonmaceyko1902 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you ! You do a nice job researching.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому

      Thank you!

  • @pensezamoi1560
    @pensezamoi1560 Місяць тому +1

    Got delayed indefinitely in California, 5yrs ago...
    I moved to Oregon soon after.
    Got delayed indefinitely here too 4yrs ago...
    Built my own!
    Soon I will attempt again and if again delayed, I will increase the private build's caliber dramatically and construct multiple.
    2A was created for one purpose and I will perform the one and only "duty" required of us by the founders, when the time comes, and with a smile on my face.

  • @kbproductions8387
    @kbproductions8387 Рік тому +16

    Several months ago I purchased a handgun with absolutely 0 issue. Even utilized the E-Check, which was convenient and was a good experience for me as a customer.
    Fast forward to today: I went to buy another handgun and I was delayed. I figured no worry, I haven’t committed any crime, and perhaps it’s the fact that it’s later afternoon is why I had to wait. Come around 2 hours, I left the store with a grave thought in my head (denial for no reason.) Now it’s 1:39 AM next day and I’m seeing this video. With all the control and BS laws in place, it really deters people from wanting to exercise their rights. God help us all as our government is becoming more and more corrupt. Law abiding citizens are the ones who truly pay, and everyday we’re closer to losing our rights.

    • @mohamadfaiz326
      @mohamadfaiz326 Рік тому

      Appeal it

    • @user-sl4ul4nc3t
      @user-sl4ul4nc3t Рік тому +1

      @Mohamad Faiz you cannot appeal a delay since by definition there is no decision to appeal. You either must wait for the denail or stop the process.

    • @mohamadfaiz326
      @mohamadfaiz326 Рік тому

      @@user-sl4ul4nc3t thats true. But i was refering to his thought when a denial does happen.

  • @Sigrafix
    @Sigrafix 2 роки тому +34

    This is truly worrying.. a friend of mine who has purchased a gun previously with no issues, was denied this year when he tried to purchase a new handgun with no explanation. He requested a police background check which showed nothing... I told him about these new laws taking effect in August now he's afraid to even purchase a gun. He doesn't have a carry permit, he literally only owns a PCC which he uses for sport and home defense.
    I have a carry permit and even I'm worried about this bs law..

    • @FragoutDesign
      @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому +2

      they taught us how to run checks on the LTCs and also said its ok to still run you thru nics even with having the exception is we want too. hint hint

    • @mr.unknowncali-life9350
      @mr.unknowncali-life9350 Рік тому +8

      I bought guns in 2019 , now 2023 my stuff got delayed.

    • @middleburg11
      @middleburg11 Рік тому

      U have right to contest background check..also it's RUN BY STATES NOT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT...if you can legally own it who cares if name and address given to local police...

    • @mr.unknowncali-life9350
      @mr.unknowncali-life9350 Рік тому

      @Nasty Habitz did you ever do a live scan ? Am in California am going to try again without the live scan . If it comes back undetermined again then i may go do the live scan.

    • @j.l.b.1816
      @j.l.b.1816 11 місяців тому

      @@Nastyhabitz I've read that you can't APPEAL an delay... with that said, do you have a link to how I can APPEAL my delay.

  • @ij2750
    @ij2750 2 роки тому +9

    This just another firearm registry plain and simple, I doubt that very many prohibited persons try to legally purchase firearms.

    • @user-qo3yy9nv1u
      @user-qo3yy9nv1u 10 місяців тому

      Fuck no. Hell itd be easier to get 1 illegally

  • @oo7-ro6bu
    @oo7-ro6bu 2 роки тому +3

    Yup 👍👍

  • @markbarnaart2381
    @markbarnaart2381 2 роки тому +7

    The British are coming !

  • @QGJohn
    @QGJohn Рік тому +2

    So you mentioned delays of minutes or seconds. Back in Nov 22 I was getting a S&W M&P 15 Sport II at my local gun shop, FFL Transfer from PSA. It took a good 90 mins or more. Would that have been a delay? Guy in the store said FL is just weird like this, sometimes it's done in a few minutes, other times it can take a couple hours. Was never visited by police after. Also in early Jan 23 I got a Canik Mete SFx from G4G, FFL at same shop, probably didn't even take 5 mins for the background to go thru.

  • @Reloadeez
    @Reloadeez Рік тому +6

    They are 100 percent keeping all nics proceed search records indefinitely. Federal law allows denial records to be kept indefinitely. A passed check, also known as a proceed, is only supposed to be kept by the ATF for 24 hours, and some partial info for 90 days then destroyed. Hold records are supposed to be kept for 90 days unless it gets a proceed or denial; if it's denied it goes to the denial records, proceed or passed it then follows the proceed rules. Here is the official ATF rule.
    § 25.9 Retention and destruction of records in the system.
    i) NICS denied transaction records obtained or created in the course of the operation of the system will be retained in the Audit Log for 10 years, after which time they will be transferred to an appropriate FBI-maintained electronic database.
    iii) In cases of NICS Audit Log records relating to allowed transactions, all identifying information submitted by or on behalf of the transferee will be destroyed within 24 hours after the FFL receives communication of the determination that the transfer may proceed. All other information, except the NTN and date, will be destroyed after not more than 90 days from the date of inquiry.
    The ATF is not destroying records from passed checks as required by law. I 100 percent know this. I have customers who would always get a hold on a gun purchase every time, I'm talking 20-plus transactions each over 2-3 year periods. They always eventually get proceeded after 1-3 days, they most likely share a name or DOB with a denied buyer. At the start of 2021 these customers got one hold, the first of the year; since that time all purchases have been instant proceeds. The ATF is keeping their proceed purchase records on file past the time allowed by law. When they come in to buy a gun, the system sees their last 5 purchases were proceeded, so it gives a proceed on the current purchase. Before 2021, when the records were destroyed as required by law, the background system didn't see those prior purchase proceeds, because they were destroyed, so the always got a hold.

  • @ralphwiggum5309
    @ralphwiggum5309 Рік тому +1

    How long can delays be? The FBI website says they scrap the NICS check after 88 days but I’ve heard people say they’re delayed indefinitely

  • @peterk8909
    @peterk8909 Рік тому +6

    My state uses NICS. The state denied me twice. Both times I appealed and was granted a "conditional permit", which FFLs are not required. And they don't.
    This all goes back to an arrest and two charges, which were dismissed in 1973. This is reflected in a NICS document I received from the FBI.

    • @michaelragusa5138
      @michaelragusa5138 Місяць тому

      @peterk8909 It sounds as though you need a lawyer to expunge the arrest records. However, even this won't guarantee anything because expungements are a joke.

    • @peterk8909
      @peterk8909 Місяць тому

      @@michaelragusa5138 The point is I was never indicted, tried or found guilty and my name doesn't even come up in Federal Records in that jurisdiction. The arrest shows in NICS but no dispensation.

  • @houndgangent.mac_lar8840
    @houndgangent.mac_lar8840 Рік тому +4

    This helps 4 years ago I walked in and right out ffl.
    Week ago I ordered 300 blackout pistol
    Went to do fed paperwork and got a delay.
    So I had to leave my purchased firearm there until

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому +2

      Yep, the delays are getting bad lately!

  • @FragoutDesign
    @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому +5

    Spent all day today with my regional AFT office. This is legit 100% we will be required to report you and give your address too. And all the other stuff. It's overwhelming

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +1

      I did a bunch of research to confirm this. And you know it is true too. It is insane!

    • @FragoutDesign
      @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому +1

      @@2aEdu YUP spent 7 hours today with the ATF, FBI, and DOD for my regional area FFLs "seminar" they called it. im exhausted.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому

      @@FragoutDesign I bet you are exhausted! BTW ....are you the guy who does some cool engraving? The one who did my friend Rom Wayne's BB gun?

  • @JustTheTip556
    @JustTheTip556 Рік тому +16

    I got denied today trying to buy a new rifle. I have several firearms that I've purchased legally and I have no criminal record (just a couple speeding tickets). It's very frustrating and I feel my right has been denied. Finding out why I got denied is a very frustrating process too. The background check center has to send me a letter to tell my why I was denied and couldn't tell me on the phone. I filled out an appeal to the denial with the FFL so hopefully I'll be good to go soon. I'm just curious what could have even caused me to be denied. And now I'm hearing this news and I'm even more po'd

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому +5

      That sucks! It is very frustrating. There was a recent report that the NICS check database has millions of incomplete entries and errors. A right delayed is a right denied.

    • @Reloadeez
      @Reloadeez Рік тому +3

      Start the firearm-related challenge, VAF process, and get your UPIN.

    • @truckpilot01
      @truckpilot01 Рік тому +2

      Did you ever straighten it out? What happened?

    • @Entropy106
      @Entropy106 Рік тому

      You didn’t put your social security number, and you share the same name with known rapists/murderers.

    • @CSAcrazy
      @CSAcrazy 11 місяців тому

      @@Entropy106I put my ss# every time and they deny 1 out of every 4-5 background checks. Then overturn the appeal every time. I really think they are just trying to discourage people from buying guns because they can’t outright ban them

  • @John-zi4ii
    @John-zi4ii 9 місяців тому +1

    Good video, thanks !

  • @BLACKWOLF-1911
    @BLACKWOLF-1911 2 роки тому +1

    My first ffl called on the phone for my nics checks and I was delayed the last 4 times. My new ffl uses the computer and they go right through. Don't know if that's a coincidence or what.

  • @ANGRYFATBOY1776
    @ANGRYFATBOY1776 2 роки тому +12

    I get delayed every single time I buy a gun. My FFL told me that if someone gets delayed one time, they will be delayed every time

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +5

      Yes, that does seem to be true. Once delayed usually always delayed.

    • @hodgemods
      @hodgemods 2 роки тому +2

      Idk about that. I got delayed about a year ago but then my next 4 purchases went smooth with no delay

    • @andrewslagle1974
      @andrewslagle1974 2 роки тому

      not true i do some times and some times not?

    • @mikeoxlong5304
      @mikeoxlong5304 Рік тому +1

      I believe it. I get delayed every time also. I’m in Arizona with pretty much no gun restrictions.

    • @AllAmericanDreamChaser
      @AllAmericanDreamChaser Рік тому +2

      @@mikeoxlong5304 I live in Arizona also. I always get delayed. Now I just have my wife purchase. It's a lot easier that way.

  • @bob_mosavo
    @bob_mosavo 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks!!

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому

      No problem!

  • @MrJayharr58
    @MrJayharr58 Рік тому

    I’m late to the game on this video ! It was suggested to me today.
    Great video, appreciate the information.
    I just want to add on to your video with some information.
    I’m a resident of Washington state where we have universal background checks and mental health checks. Our cwp holders are no longer exemplified from NiX checks as well.
    Hand guns and semi auto rifles/ pistols are checked with local law enforcement and long guns/shotguns bolt action, lever action and receivers are done with NIX.
    The part that is being left out is either a NIX check or a local law enforcement check if there is a delay , Nix/LLE has 3 business days to reply with denied or proceed.
    If they do not the FFL has the discretion to proceed with the sale.
    Many gun shops will however your larger box stores will not.
    I am a customer that always gets a delay with NIX . They never respond with a proceed. It’s NEVER HAPPENED. Just a delay and the ffl proceeds with the transaction after (3) business days. If it’s sportsman warehouse or cabelas or a large box store again they will only release the firearm with a proceed.
    I just wanted to clarify the fact you can only get the firearm with a proceed is not true. Many local government as well as national are trying to close this so called “loophole”.
    Seems to me NIX needs to get their sht together.
    I have 0 criminal record but will be delayed everytime!!! I’ve just accepted it, never been denied.

  • @venetiakelley
    @venetiakelley 3 місяці тому +1

    I was delayed in Oregon, for about two months! I’m thinking of canceling the buy.

  • @brasstard7.627
    @brasstard7.627 2 роки тому +7

    Good this is what everyone gets for complying with 4473s in the first place

    • @iamnotpaulavery
      @iamnotpaulavery 2 роки тому +3

      What other alternatives are there?

    • @brandenimhoff2713
      @brandenimhoff2713 10 місяців тому

      ​@@iamnotpaulaveryhe's alluding to buying illegally.
      Another liberal posing as a gun owner on the internet to hurt the reputation.

  • @MrRose-nr3ez
    @MrRose-nr3ez 7 місяців тому +1

    Michigan here... have cpl get delayed every time for a long gun but can walk out the door in minutes with pistol and ammo. Its annoying, didn't used to happen.

  • @cchristopher4377
    @cchristopher4377 5 місяців тому +1

    Good Stuff.

  • @Imakebootysclap
    @Imakebootysclap Рік тому +2

    I always get a 30 day delay but right now Im on day 32 and the gun store still hasnt heard back from the DOJ

  • @hvega8199
    @hvega8199 Рік тому +2

    Great video. I’m out here in California. Been delayed from bass pro shop. My 30 days are up tomorrow. I job requires a live scan so I’m clean. I purchased a Henry lever about 5 months ago with no issues. I purchased ammo about a week ago with no issues.
    We’ll see if I get the Undetermined dros.

    • @allahabumboclaata1427
      @allahabumboclaata1427 Рік тому +1

      Did you get undetermined or any other problem?

    • @rjhamilton7397
      @rjhamilton7397 4 місяці тому

      Hey how did that all work out for you? I’m in the same situation, in Cali and delayed and my job did live scan before employment also.

  • @FEMl_
    @FEMl_ Рік тому +1

    Great information

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому

      Thank you!

  • @mikeoxlong5304
    @mikeoxlong5304 Рік тому +35

    How can an 18 year old walk out of a store with a rifle and a bull of ammo the same day, and a 40 year old with zero criminal record get told to wait? Makes no sense. 😤

    • @KawaiiCreamery1
      @KawaiiCreamery1 Рік тому +3

      Exactly

    • @Reloadeez
      @Reloadeez Рік тому +1

      Because that's the government for you, I have active cops who used to always get holds before NICS started keeping proceed records indefinitely, which is illegal.

    • @adamgrbic4449
      @adamgrbic4449 10 місяців тому

      an 18 year old cant

    • @CancelLuis
      @CancelLuis 9 місяців тому

      I was 18 at the time and it took 3 months for them to clear my background check

    • @mobbnation3196
      @mobbnation3196 6 місяців тому

      @@CancelLuis it took you 3 months to purchase your first firearm ?

  • @anthonydominguez8153
    @anthonydominguez8153 Рік тому

    Went to purchase my first lower receiver, currently active law enforcement since 06, purchased more then a few firearms in the past. Just as recent In Nov 2022. Got a delayed response and then a letter from the DOJ regarding possible name and physical descriptions match to a prohibited person. Don’t understand especially when I provided current Department credentials and current DL information. Any suggestions or advice?

  • @adamlong54
    @adamlong54 2 роки тому +3

    Many common name people get denied in the system then after going thru the hoops your approval is granted. My buddy John Tyler has a common name happens every time he gets a gun.

  • @alexcantu331
    @alexcantu331 Рік тому

    I have a question for you. I don't have an address as I live out of my van. I've had a few incidents where people have tried to break into my vehicle while I'm asleep in it. I went the other day to the gun shop to buy a handgun but the owner of the establishment required that I provide a valid address to buy a gun. What can I do to buy a new gun if I don't have a permanent address? I would prefer not to buy used from Facebook or Craigslist.

  • @mikeoxlong5304
    @mikeoxlong5304 Рік тому +2

    Just purchased a ruger Lcp max in Phoenix Arizona and got delayed 😡. It happens every time and I have no criminal record. Really chaps my ass.

  • @johnnyrebless
    @johnnyrebless 6 місяців тому

    Hi, one of my first jobs was at a skeet and trap club-Pistol and Rifle. I was 14 and this was 1985. I used to hunt every year, but haven't for years until this year. I tried to get ammo, after getting my hunting license, and was told I needed a background check. My gun was not registered to my current address, so I switched to black powder and air guns. The switch was not just because of that issue, but more related to the huge price for ammo, parts, and accessories needed. I've found it a cool hobby, especially since my father and Grandfather took me shooting and fishing. My father loved shooting since his Service in the Army. (He was an Interrupter for Army intelligence in Thailand in 1963 and my grandfather hunted to provide meat for the family during the depression). This recent law, which I'm watching you explain now popped up as you explained. I could walk down the street when I was 14 out into the orchards and hills behind home without trouble. Now, I had to take the hunting test again, when I had previously taken it and used it for many years, but the last time before I tried after COVID. I needed to take it again, I passed the test. Now when I tried to get ammo for a gun, I owned it for 40 years with a valid hunting license. I needed to give my address and then no gun showed up. I've moved around a bit, like the Philippines and Thailand as a missionary. In Thailand, I helped with Tsunami relief. Now that I'm home and after my father passed away from Valley Fever and a Stroke (I cared for him till the end in Hospice) I thought of shooting, which I did with my father in my youth. Now everything is so convoluted, the process, prices, and limited places to shoot a gun without having someone call the cops. I've gotten myself a membership at a local gun club (which has been in service since WW2) and started shooting my air rifle and black powder guns. Let me tell you! Even getting ammo and supplies for that has become a pain. I just came across your Video, because I'm going for an interview at a local sporting goods store. I really appreciate your time and info. Hopefully, it will help with the interview, you know understanding these new and convoluted gun laws. I must also state (I said this to a surveyor who called about who I'm voting for, what if anything would I want to have brought before the ballot)

  • @Cameraman148
    @Cameraman148 2 роки тому +5

    During the Middle of the Plandemic, I Bought a Pistol From My LGS and I got a Delay when I Filled out the 4473. mind you I have been Buying and Selling Guns for Fifty Years Never had a Problem, This was on a Thursday or a Friday, The store said if they got a Proceed, I could pick it up that following Monday, needless to say they called and said come pick up your Pistol..Now I wonder if these means I get a Delay every time ? This is more Bullshyte for Gun Buyers.....

  • @Hardcase19691
    @Hardcase19691 Рік тому +1

    I get delayed every time also, someone commented that you should apply to get your UPIN? Anyone have experience doing this? Has it eliminated your delays? Is this a good idea?

  • @billkampouris2286
    @billkampouris2286 2 роки тому +6

    This is just another part of a multi pronged attack on the 2A, it's meant to have a chilling effect on would be purchasers of firearms.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +2

      Yes, of course that is what this is. I agree

  • @daniellocke5720
    @daniellocke5720 10 місяців тому

    I live in California. What can I do about an undetermined? Turners told me they cannot do anything and that is that. But I haven’t been denied. Need some help as I am new to all of this.

  • @DieselDick03
    @DieselDick03 Рік тому +15

    I’m in law enforcement and even I got delayed. Looking forward to hearing what exactly they needed to look into in regards to my background as they’ve already done that thoroughly in the past multiple times.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому +5

      They are wrong on 99% of the delays and denials. It is a very flawed database and system.

    • @lincolnosiris8439
      @lincolnosiris8439 11 місяців тому +6

      I literally passed a check a week ago, delayed today

    • @mrincredible2330
      @mrincredible2330 10 місяців тому +1

      Any update?

    • @Det1911
      @Det1911 10 місяців тому +2

      @@mrincredible2330 right it's so frustrating

    • @alvinrrr6409
      @alvinrrr6409 9 місяців тому +1

      I got delayed so I have to call the shop or will they call me when I get denied or approved

  • @wsidepac455
    @wsidepac455 Рік тому

    Hello sir quick question 🙋‍♂️ I bout a ar 15 lower California during my 10 day waiting period I got arrested and served a ticket with 2 misdemeanors not at all domestic violence.
    Should I run into any problems when I go to pick it up ?

  • @lisacothern9436
    @lisacothern9436 Рік тому +1

    Is the a process you can do to find out why you received a delay then proceed to see why and how to be sure they have correct information I received a delay twice law abiding citizen

  • @brothajim01
    @brothajim01 3 місяці тому +1

    Cool vid. I think the issue is that the law sort of jumps the gun in treating delays as people who they think are going to turn into denials. It kind of punishes people way before the fact.

  • @screwedupclick1374
    @screwedupclick1374 Рік тому +4

    I’m 18 (8 months until 19) live in Texas , no criminal background at all and got delayed on ar 15. Got delay 6 days ( Saturday and Sunday included ) they called me today to say I got delayed another 10 days. What do you think might be the issue ?

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому

      Probably because you are under 21. That is part of the new bi-partisan law that passed last year.

  • @richardcarte8378
    @richardcarte8378 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  5 місяців тому

      Thank you!

  • @trtrhr
    @trtrhr Рік тому +1

    I refuse to go though Gun shows or gun stores, I go though Private gun sales with no background checks are legal in my state.
    A: Indiana does not require the registration of firearms. Registration is not required for private transfers or sales, but federal law does require specific forms to be completed when purchasing a firearm from a dealer.

    • @MexicanODee
      @MexicanODee 3 місяці тому

      How do you go about finding private sellers ?

  • @harrygrimley4352
    @harrygrimley4352 2 роки тому +10

    Smash the thumbs up people 👍👍👍

  • @mikeking6830
    @mikeking6830 9 місяців тому +1

    The last NICS check after the 4473 changed took over an hour. Outrageous. I have been delayed many times sometimes 6-8 months apart with no issues in between. When you are 100 miles from home and get delayed I abort the purchase. Prefer to always buy local on purpose or shipped to a local FFL for NCIS just for that reason. They are using this as A self imposed 3 day waiting period. This never happened three years ago.

  • @ricknoriega1288
    @ricknoriega1288 2 роки тому +9

    Just went to my ffl this weekend , was delayed. An hour later I was cleared . For that 9x18 Macarov , not sure if those blow lungs out too 🤔

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +5

      I also got delayed for about 15 minutes yesterday. I transferred 8 firearms. ATF will probably be at my house soon for a checkup.....

    • @FragoutDesign
      @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому

      new rules go into effect on the 26th if i remember right from today. they really want us snitching on our customers now its very uncomfortable.

    • @FragoutDesign
      @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому

      @Patrick Perales yeahhhh i like your spirit but im not optimistic.

  • @dwayneroberts6616
    @dwayneroberts6616 Рік тому

    I was just cleared in about 15 minutes a few days ago. They had to call the store back with the approval though. I live in Florida so I don't know if that makes a difference. I also do not and have never purchased anything registered with the ATF. I don't have any pistol braces or suppressors or stock piles of ammo and I don't buy a lot of firearms. I have a few but they have been purchased over a 10 yr span. In other words I don't think I'm on anyone's radar.

  • @therealjigsawjp
    @therealjigsawjp Рік тому +4

    Went to Dunhams for Black Friday to snag the G3c for $200. Bought my first firearm (g2c) in 2020. Have never been in trouble , and got a delay. Today is Tuesday and I am still waiting. I'm in Michigan as well.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому +1

      Yep. It is happening a lot lately. I talked about this topic in my last livestream too. Good luck 👍

    • @therealjigsawjp
      @therealjigsawjp Рік тому +1

      @@2aEdu thanks! Hoping to hear back from them tomorrow!

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому

      @@therealjigsawjp Try not to worry too much about it. It is stressful, and BS that it happens so much.

    • @therealjigsawjp
      @therealjigsawjp Рік тому +1

      Update: they called today with a "proceed". It was a total of 3 days I had to wait.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому

      @@therealjigsawjp Good!

  • @Emily_M81
    @Emily_M81 6 місяців тому +2

    the mental health prohibition is wild, too. A guy in Michigan was involuntarily committed to a mental hospital in 1986 was denied a gun purchase in 2011. 25 fucking years later o.O Literally one really bad day and the subjective opinion of someone and goodbye forever unless you appeal to the courts.

  • @joemorganeatmyshortschannel
    @joemorganeatmyshortschannel 2 роки тому +7

    This is redundant stuff just for control so they can attempt to start disarm process

    • @FragoutDesign
      @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому +3

      theyre going to do it buy taking away all our FFL Licenses.

  • @ShowTheReal
    @ShowTheReal 6 місяців тому +1

    To me I am like ok then come to my house, inform local law enforce and the FBI, just simply do my background check already. I have nothing that would prohibit me from owning a firearm. I feel like my Background check is just sitting on a dusty shelf somewhere in the NICS office. I don't know what to do anymore.

  • @johnnyatm30
    @johnnyatm30 2 роки тому +2

    I was given a two day hold when I went to purchase Taurus GX 4 had to wait two days had my permit for 30 years never had a problem until recently

    • @johnnyatm30
      @johnnyatm30 2 роки тому +2

      They never explained why this occurred to me

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому

      Same here. I have purchased more guns than I care to count without delay. Recently I get delayed every time.

  • @HUGH_JHANIS
    @HUGH_JHANIS 8 місяців тому

    LETS GO SCOTUS...! Im in jersey nd its crazy over here, lots of moves otw though.. great vid ..

  • @gavinsheets9889
    @gavinsheets9889 9 місяців тому +10

    First gun buyer, went in and got denied. Clean record and everything such bullshit.

    • @paleo704
      @paleo704 4 місяці тому +2

      Wonder what for if no arrests or psychological commitments

    • @MorningTurd
      @MorningTurd 2 місяці тому

      Go back to a different location happen to me last year, no arrest either

  • @TM-ti3md
    @TM-ti3md 9 місяців тому

    i'm in california i got delayed back in december. i waited 10 days then 30 days and nothing so they asked for a live scan i did the livescan. i emiled the doj and they pretty much said i have to wait unitl they get to my paperwork.... almost a year and still waiting.

  • @danInRealife
    @danInRealife Рік тому

    What happens if I don't follow through with my Delayed status?? Will I still get visited by police or feds??!

  • @corywilliamsmith
    @corywilliamsmith 4 місяці тому +3

    Why TF does local law enforcement need to know about my fire arms purchase. 😖

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  4 місяці тому +2

      Because they are the ones who will be tasked to take them if or when the time comes.

  • @zivkogrozdanic5733
    @zivkogrozdanic5733 2 роки тому

    Also are you talking about rifles background check as in Maryland you can’t get your hand gun but after 7 days waiting period. I see someone mentioned that they got a “delay” answer while in the shop. Here in Maryland you could only get that if you wait while buying a rifle**

  • @jacobcarson2559
    @jacobcarson2559 Рік тому +3

    Kindve wild that you can't legally own a gun as a medical marijuana user.
    Alcohol and opiates are far more damaging to people's judgement.

  • @TheGadgetwiz
    @TheGadgetwiz 2 роки тому +17

    I have NEVER not been delayed. I normally get a proceed 1-2 days later. This makes me uncomfortable.
    I will happily sign onto a lawsuit here in Missouri.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +6

      Many people get delayed every time. This is BS

    • @rumdog117
      @rumdog117 2 роки тому

      It takes longer to fill out the paperwork than it does to run the check here in Georgia with a concealed carry.

    • @mikehawk120
      @mikehawk120 Рік тому

      I have a couple different state permits and also a LEOSA card, I get delayed every time. In my current state, I have to wait 10 business days after a delay to pickup my firearm. Will getting a known person number or whatever help?

  • @hamiltonharper
    @hamiltonharper Рік тому +4

    Seems like delaying everyone on occasion is a great way to farm everyone's home addresses. Seems after they got busted scanning FFL books they needed a new method.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому +1

      I agree!

  • @walkercustoms
    @walkercustoms 2 роки тому +4

    my last 8 transfers in 2 years are all delayed. I think because of that exact reason of another person in the state with the same first, middle, last name as me. a police officer told me about it once in a traffic stop, the other me that is. I've never been arrested, or jailed or convicted of a crime, I have my CCW and I get delayed every time. will this effectively stop me from buying firearms? we'll see I guess.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +1

      Same here. I have a CPL, and get delayed recently.

    • @walkercustoms
      @walkercustoms 2 роки тому

      @@2aEdu all mine go through overnight but apparently that doesn't matter to them. And oddly enough like many are saying it started January 2020 during C Vid for me also.

  • @fadedxrealities
    @fadedxrealities 23 дні тому +1

    Got delayed. It’s been about 3 days and still nothing. Very frustrating

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  23 дні тому

      That sucks!

  • @jbcustom3745
    @jbcustom3745 Рік тому +7

    you can get denied for simply putting your taller or shorter by 1 inch then your state ID says.

    • @Factchecker9111
      @Factchecker9111 8 місяців тому

      Well I got denied today and I did just that. My ID says 6 ft and I put 5 ft 11 in

    • @venetiakelley
      @venetiakelley 3 місяці тому

      I shrunk 1 inch; and, I did this.

  • @shaunhall8894
    @shaunhall8894 Рік тому +1

    I literally just bought a shotgun a week ago. Found a sweet deal on a pistol today and was delayed. Stupid. 24 year Army vet still active and I get a delayed all of the sudden.

  • @northcountryoutlaw9704
    @northcountryoutlaw9704 Рік тому +1

    I have purchased several firearms no problem I've only been delayed once for 3 or 4 days a few years ago. I have a Michigan cpl. I just bought a 1911 in December, it's now February and I just got delayed again for my rifle purchase. The only criminal record I have is 1 traffic ticket. hopefully I get the all clear in 3 days you would think if you provide your SSN they could look up your info up faster

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому

      I have a MI CPL too, and I get delayed every time for the past year or so. I have never provided my ss#.

  • @bassman6619
    @bassman6619 Рік тому +1

    Ive only been able to buy 1gun where I actually walked in and out the same day all others five days.

  • @PrimericanIdol
    @PrimericanIdol 9 місяців тому +2

    This will make all gun owners buy exclusively via private sales, legally or otherwise.
    We should buy all guns from the streets, so they'll be in responsible hands as opposed to criminal ones. 😂

    • @googlegmail9888
      @googlegmail9888 7 місяців тому

      Someone’s gonna take this serious so I’ll help that person out , hopefully they’re reading. Don’t buy guns from criminals, stolen gun, murder weapon, or you will get robbed especially if you’re not black

  • @kevinburton5323
    @kevinburton5323 Рік тому +2

    I went to a FFL today to purchase my first firearm, I got a "Delay". The FFL told me to come back in 4 days if I haven't heard from them and I can pick up my pistol. I have never been in trouble with the law ,, I also have my hazmat endorsement on my CDL which required a background check with the FBI that I passed. It really does suck to be forced to wait

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому

      I agree! I get delayed too. Good luck 👍

    • @AimaginationHub
      @AimaginationHub Рік тому +1

      @@2aEdu how do you typically get the notification for the status update of the Delay?

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому

      @@AimaginationHub I get a call from my LGS when it changes to proceed.

    • @TexasPapa13
      @TexasPapa13 Рік тому +1

      I have DHS and FBI clearance for high security areas but sometimes I can’t buy a gun in a store and sometimes I can . Make it make sense

  • @jacksonpegram5153
    @jacksonpegram5153 Рік тому +1

    I am 20, bout my first AR through an FFL in my town and it got delayed 3 weeks. Bought the rifle on June 3rd, delayed til the 10th, now it’s delayed til the 22nd.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  Рік тому +1

      That is terrible. A right delayed, is a right denied.

  • @Joe-qh4px
    @Joe-qh4px 2 місяці тому

    3rd time I've had a delayed status, they tell the FFL dealer on the phone 7 days from the call for the background check and then I just go pick it up. Makes no sense they deny it but then give a date that I can just come in and get it?

  • @redstingraycorvette
    @redstingraycorvette 4 місяці тому

    I love your website I love all the information that you give I was involved with a deal. I was buying a VRAD from a sporting good store, and I went through the process of answering the questions, and at the end of it, the person took the laptop away from me and said you’re gonna have to come back in 30 days now I have a CPL and I have a problem every time I buy a gun They have to do it seven day background check on me because somebody has my last name so they have to check me out but I guess the point I’m trying to get that is why do they have to be such idiots when something supposedly was wrong they refused to tell you what you did wrong on the paperwork and just tell you to come back in 30 days talk about gun control. I bought many guns. I was a gun dealer for a while. This is insulting and it’s who do we turn to

  • @ANGRYFATBOY1776
    @ANGRYFATBOY1776 2 роки тому +2

    Hey 2A EDU, in the state of Louisiana if you were delayed and there is no response from the nics check for 72 hours the FFL can sell you the firearm

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 роки тому +2

      That is the Federal law. Which has nothing to do with what I said in regard to them requiring your address. The FFL may transfer. But many FFLs will not until a processed is given.

    • @ANGRYFATBOY1776
      @ANGRYFATBOY1776 2 роки тому +1

      Ok now I understand what you are saying

    • @FragoutDesign
      @FragoutDesign 2 роки тому

      you will still get reported on with the new rules.

  • @gotslack6957
    @gotslack6957 Рік тому +1

    I love you

  • @troy9er
    @troy9er Рік тому

    Good 👍🏻 info. Thanks! They have CCW in Illinois but I won’t get one, I have survived over 60 years without one and I refuse to pay the state to use my God. Given rite according to the Constitution. Period.

  • @lamatracapuntocompuntove6257
    @lamatracapuntocompuntove6257 Місяць тому

    Hello friends, i got a denial in my first purchase and i appeal with fbi and they overturned, i go to the gun shop they told me all its fine and they call me when i can pick up the gun, they never call me i went to the gun shop and they told me i go denied again with the fbi original letter says i can receive a posses firearm from xxx. What should i do

  • @gammacrush3351
    @gammacrush3351 9 місяців тому +3

    👍👍

  • @danielzaymn654
    @danielzaymn654 2 місяці тому +1

    I just got denied in Michigan but I just obtained a CPL a month ago, makes no sense, I had to do a background check and give fingerprints to obtain the Cpl. so I’m allowed to legally carry but can’t purchase.

    • @2aEdu
      @2aEdu  2 місяці тому

      Denials & delay are in error about 90% of the time.