Can You Cut Steel On A "Wood Cutting" Bandsaw?

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  • Опубліковано 9 кві 2016
  • In this video: We have all seen small home shop band saws marketed to folks working with wood. Some even saw that they are "wood cutting" saws... but are they really limited to cutting one kind of material? what about metals like aluminum or even steel?
    Darkmoon Metals is a home based business start up, I have decided to live my dream and work for myself. I am a trained welder with a strong interest in blacksmithing. Dana, a long time friend and talented artist has teamed up with me to create truly unique products that will help us stand apart from other metal crafters. Join us for our ups and downs while we learn as we go. Trying to forge a new life in a dead economy that has left many blue collar people just trying to survive.
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  • @jbl7092
    @jbl7092 Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much. Answered my question about cutting aircraft aluminum on a "wood" bandsaw. Just ordered a metal cutting blade for the same saw.

  • @jimkey920
    @jimkey920 6 років тому +11

    I had a band saw in the 1960's I installed a moor from a 1948 Bendix Automatic Washer. it had a 10 to 1 reduction system operated by a solenoid. I used the slow speed for cutting metal it worked veyt well.

  • @Sumibraxis
    @Sumibraxis 7 років тому +5

    THANK YOU! I've been wracking me brains trying to find, and review various metal/wood band saws for knife making. I was HOPING the materials were blade specific, and not "slow it down or you'll die!" LOL this was informative, and helped me find a band saw!

  • @lfpriego08
    @lfpriego08 4 роки тому +3

    thank you for your review. i needed to find out if a regular bandsaw would cut metal, but i kind new the blade would have to be for metal. you confirmed it. thank you

  • @AnMadreMor
    @AnMadreMor 7 років тому +1

    Stumbled on your video and I believe that I have the exact same bandsaw.....Thanks for the info..

  • @hc7190
    @hc7190 6 років тому +2

    I have an old 1994 reliant which looks just like yours and still works great . Mine has the different size pulleys for speed variations also . Thanks for your video as I will get a metal cutting blade , as I never thought of using it that way .

  • @jeffhampton6972
    @jeffhampton6972 Рік тому

    This is rally helpful, thank you for making it!

  • @aethelwolfe3539
    @aethelwolfe3539 2 роки тому +2

    I freaked out when I saw that there were no measurements or the use of the fence. Measure twice! This tool is way nicer than an angle grinder!

    • @jeffreysanto
      @jeffreysanto  2 роки тому

      Why would I measure a piece of scrap that was only being used in a demo? Is the guy at the scrap yard not going to accept it because it is unmeasured?

    • @user-je3uw3lq4m
      @user-je3uw3lq4m 3 місяці тому

      I’m 776

  • @fredbloggs4829
    @fredbloggs4829 4 роки тому +8

    I would like to make an addition to your video. When cutting metals, you should not just "let the blade do the cutting". So, for each metal there is an optimal feed and speed. And certainly true for harder metals, the blade will last longer if you do put the correct force into the cut. The problem with going too slow is that the teeth will rub rather than cut and wear the blade out quicker. Otherwise great video. PS I loved the comment about Dracula needs to be aware. Very funny.

  • @pauldiaz4273
    @pauldiaz4273 4 роки тому

    Awesome Video Jeff, very informative

  • @einars899
    @einars899 7 років тому +3

    It is really nice that you put in a caption telling that a segment is at a higher speed!
    Very few do that, and it can sometimes make an impression to those who do not know the process that it should go much faster than what it does when trying it yourself. And many who watch this kind of videos have little or no experience in the process themselves.
    When cutting round material freehand, put a visegrip or toolmakers clamp on the stock!
    It will try to rotate as the blade goes into and out of cut because the cut forces are not above the contact point stock/table. This can make the teeth catch the edge and the teeth or your hand can get hurt.

  • @peterzenner2020
    @peterzenner2020 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. It helps us DIY Builders a lot when we need to make a project and want to use the tools that are already available... instead of a hack saw!

  • @BigMjolnir
    @BigMjolnir 8 років тому +2

    Thanks for the demo! I've got a Delta 14", but speed isn't adjustable as it is, so it's not going to get fed any steel. I'll keep watch on Craig's list for something that can be modified to run slower. In the mean time I have a Miller Portaband mounted in a Swag Off-road table, so I have a 5" vertical bandsaw, and a portable saw for rough cutting wherever needed. For the sizes I'm working with it's been good enough.
    Thanks for the demos!
    -- Mike

  • @omorganstudios
    @omorganstudios 3 місяці тому

    Thx! I think I will finally get my metal blade to work, I was pushing too hard...Also for crazy shapes I plan to do straight cuts blocking it in rough and then grind to smooth everything out... cheers😊

  • @user-lf7en6rf8m
    @user-lf7en6rf8m 10 місяців тому

    Thank you, I thought this was correct, i simply want to weld small stuff as a hobby, Thank you for confirming my knowledge lol ,

  • @chadkeech226
    @chadkeech226 3 роки тому

    Asbestos is still used throughout the world and is largely mined in Russia. Many believe that Asbestos is harmless and continue to produce to this day. In America it was banned for "our safety" because our research suggest it's causes negative health effects such as Cancer. While others suggest that it was a ploy to boycott the large Russian export. Great video! This helped me a lot with my project. Thank you

  • @marbleman52
    @marbleman52 6 років тому

    Jeff...if that bandsaw has variable speed, then you really snagged a deal. When you showed us the page that showed the different types of material and the appropriate blade speeds, I could only surmise that your bandsaw was variable speed. You didn't tell us that part. Yep...proper blade selection and proper speed...key factors. Thanks for your videos.

  • @f.e.1952
    @f.e.1952 4 роки тому

    Very informative my friend , Good video. Cheers

  • @DavidGarcia-sx8th
    @DavidGarcia-sx8th 4 роки тому

    BADASS.....USEFUL INFORMATION...VERY COOL....

  • @jamespolucha8790
    @jamespolucha8790 7 місяців тому

    I cut a lot of aluminum with my wood band saw, never tried metal but man it goes right threw aluminum

  • @drason69
    @drason69 7 років тому +4

    Depinately possible. It's not the tools fault to fail. It is the impatience of the operator that causes problems. We have a metal bandsaw at work, that the engineers destroy every new blade on the first use, as they FORCE to cut. The blades run about 120.00 from fastenal. I have a friend who cut blackpowder gun stocks on his meat cutting bandsaw, and it still works and blades last.

  • @michaelmcmenzie6928
    @michaelmcmenzie6928 3 роки тому +1

    I have been cutting metal on my bandsaw like this for 10 years. Granger or mcmaster Carr, if you contact those companies and tell them what you wanna cut they will sell you a blade that will work.

  • @ellieprice363
    @ellieprice363 5 років тому

    Good demo. Mine is a 1960 era cast iron Delta 14 converted to metal cutting with 135 rpm gear-motor. With five step pulley it cuts from 194 fpm to 1220 fpm with 1/4 x .025 x 10T Bi-Metal for tool steel, 1/4 x .025 x 4-6T for aluminum and 14T for sheet metal. I've never found a reason to go wider than 1/4 on my blades. I'm surprised you can cut thick steel that fast on a wood cutting saw even with 24T blade, I assume with a three step pulley and 1750 motor. Thanks from a retired tool maker.

  • @rissawheate9591
    @rissawheate9591 4 роки тому

    ive got a bandsaw with a wood cutting blade,gonna try cuttin some metal.cool video.

  • @carlthornton3076
    @carlthornton3076 4 роки тому

    Very Good!!

  • @57WillysCJ
    @57WillysCJ 7 років тому +1

    That looks identical to my Jet bandsaw I bought back in 97. Still works good. It's better to change those plastic guide blocks to rollers.

  • @newstart49
    @newstart49 4 роки тому +5

    I have two of these saws. 2003 and 2007. One is for wood, the other for metal or fine cutting with a metal cutting blade running at 576 sfpm. The ideal speed for steel is about 90-150 sfpm. I only cut thinner metal and leave the heavy cutting for the horizontal bandsaw. (SFPM is "surface feet per minute" the blade cuts, not the rpm of the pulleys)

  • @kimcurtis9366
    @kimcurtis9366 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks, Jeff! I was thinking of getting HF 14 inch band saw and now, you've confirmed what I always thought was probably the case! I will look for the model that model with the cast iron frame! I just bought a Skil 9 incher to get me by until I can find and afford a 14 incher!
    I am a beginning knife maker, and at 67, I'm a bit late to the game! I DO need to cut high carbon steel and some other metals so I bought 2 bimetal blades with 18 teeth per inch! I can't fond any blades with more teeth for the 59.5 inch blades I need so, I guess I'm stuck with 18 tpi. I'm hoping that it will cut 3/16th inch nickel steel! It works very well for bolsters and guards!
    Again, thanks for the video and the info!

    • @alfredhonarchian9866
      @alfredhonarchian9866 4 роки тому

      I don't think 67 is too late, my neighbor, he is 84 years old and he bought engraving tools and his doing well and he makes some money too, he told me if you have passion for something age it's not an issue:

  • @claytonlemieux4090
    @claytonlemieux4090 6 років тому +3

    II went to a store that sell metal removing CNC bits and order a metal steel cutting blade it was special made for my saw and was under $30

  • @vlvv3744
    @vlvv3744 6 років тому

    no way that's incredibly sick!! Kyle Metcalfe (VLVV)

  • @coburnlowman
    @coburnlowman 7 років тому +2

    I worked in a machine shop that bought several of these saws back in the 90's. My thought was they wouldn't cut metal. We but two sets of pulleys on them or an extra set I guess to say. we left the regular speed set then put a big time reduction set on with the motor made to slide or swivel (can't remember exactly) but we cut aluminum with the factory set speed and cut steel with the reduction set. Made a loop that would hold both belts. Also we added spray misters that made blades last a long time.

  • @jezchazania1336
    @jezchazania1336 5 років тому

    Cheers buddy thanks 👍

  • @wayneparris3439
    @wayneparris3439 6 років тому +2

    Any bandsaw... it is all about the band speed and the blade. Different speed ranges favor different material. Wood is typically a much higher speed than metals. Alum is a high speed also so a wood cutting saw with a good blade will cut alum. I cut up to 2 inch alum stock on my wood saw all the time (dry for those of you who insist it needs lube, it does not and will not stick to the blade either though on STEEL I do use a bit of wax). with a 6 tooth raker blade. The speed is not able to be adjusted slow enough to get a lot of cuts on steel etc. Too much speed and you will break off the teeth in a HSS blade in steel while the same blade at a slower band speed will cut a long time through steels.

    • @MarufMamnun
      @MarufMamnun 6 років тому

      Dear wayne , How are you , I want to buy a Band saw for cutting Buffalo Horn and produce some crafts , But i can not take a desition , what kind of band saw buy , Wood or matel . and what kind of Blade i used , Buffalo Horn is very very strong / hard .

  • @humlakullen
    @humlakullen 3 роки тому

    Thanks a bunch! Looking for a versatile band saw now. Can you recommend a band saw with variable speed?

  • @jeffbeck6501
    @jeffbeck6501 5 років тому +1

    wow it cut through that 3/4 ply like it was cutting through a banana. that was amazing.

  • @MrWoowootila
    @MrWoowootila 7 років тому +27

    I enjoy your videos, but I just want to correct you on something. Metal band saws usually have speed controls where as wood band saws do not. That chart you had out specifies the speed for the blade for the material to be cut. It is kind of similar to a drill press. You vary the speed to the material to be cut and also the diameter of the drill bit. Cutting wood the speed is not that critical, but cutting metal you usually use a slower speed and you can quickly dull a blade or bit if you are going too fast. Yes you can cut metal on a wood band saw, but you will most likely dull the blade more quickly.

    • @jeffreysanto
      @jeffreysanto  7 років тому +13

      Very good point, this model has 4 speeds all controlled with moving the belt to from one pulley to another. If I find myself using this saw in an upcoming video I will be sure to mention this. Thank you for the comment and view! Hope to hear from you again in the future :)

    • @foam_blaster
      @foam_blaster 6 років тому +3

      Also metal cutting band saws have ball bearing guides instead of those blocks. The blocks will work but are not ideal . Another major difference is the wheel. Wood cutting band saws have rubber on the wheel with a crown . metal cutting band saws do not have this but they do have a ridge at the back to keep the blade on the wheel. This is due to the higher pressure on the blade for metal cutting. All that being said I have one of these saws too. Set to the slow speed with nice starret blade works perfect for a home shop . I made a ball bearing guide for it too and that helped quite a bit. Cutting aluminum and plastic its a beast , rips threw it like nothing but cutting metal I agree with letting the blade do the work .

    • @codprawn
      @codprawn 5 років тому +1

      @@foam_blaster That is not the case, I have a Startrite 24" 10 speed metal cutting bandsaw. It uses blocks not ball races. The blocks provide better support and are more accurate!

    • @foam_blaster
      @foam_blaster 5 років тому

      @@codprawn really cool blocks like on a wood saw? My do all has block guids too but they are very different from wood band saw guids. They are one peace with a slit in them and they fit in ridged holders not like on a wood saw. Available in different sizes and materials. Arent yours more like that ?

    • @codprawn
      @codprawn 5 років тому

      @@foam_blaster Daniel - yes that is what mine are like. I thought you meant they all had ball races.
      The proper blocks are hard to get for my saw. You can make them from cast iron but some people make them from wood - lignam vitae which is very hard and self lubricating. Lignam vitae used to be used for shaft bearings on ships and nuclear subs so it is pretty good stuff!

  • @mathewabraham1701
    @mathewabraham1701 8 місяців тому

    Thank you fo the valuable information, I thought that I need variable speed saw to cut metal, just buy the blade for the metal ,Thanks again

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 7 років тому +2

    My 12" Sears 103.24280 has issue with the aluminum shavings sticking to the poly tires.

  • @lamnghipham7634
    @lamnghipham7634 5 років тому

    Im thinking of using a vertical 14" bandsaw with different blades in both metal and woodworking situations.
    Investing both the 6x4 horizontal and the 14" vertical at one time is possible but painful.
    Thanks for your experiments.

  • @mackermelchor5212
    @mackermelchor5212 4 роки тому

    Just got one exactly like it.

  • @phrodendekia
    @phrodendekia 5 років тому

    So is it safe to use a wood cutting bandsaw, those old belt-driven cast iron ones?
    Say, if I channge pulley ratios so it goes a bit slower, or if I calculate the saw's speed to match its recomended specifications, would it be ok?
    Is there any other characteristic that makes a wood cutting bandsaw suitable for wood-only?

  • @matteo9682
    @matteo9682 6 років тому

    Nice video, but what brand blade did you use and how did it hold up?

  • @georgewocosky
    @georgewocosky 7 років тому +14

    Old timer's trick that will help your blade last a lot longer : use some beeswax on the blade before cutting thicker material . . . * it can nearly double the cutting speed ! ( especially in aluminum plate ) :) This would be a fine candidate for a treadmill motor !

    • @YvanR0Y
      @YvanR0Y 7 років тому +2

      Cutting aluminium is a pain without beeswax or other lubricant. It sticks in the teeth! It doesn't take much beeswax to to the trick either.

    • @GAIS414
      @GAIS414 7 років тому +3

      Try methylated spirit when you work with aluminium. That makes machining, cutting or drilling a lot faster and keeps the aluminium from sticking to the tools. It's due to the cooling effect of alcohol evaporating rather than lubricating. As a bonus you save yourself from cleaning up the oil from everywhere.

    • @Sumibraxis
      @Sumibraxis 7 років тому +1

      thanks for the input!!!! this trick WILL come in handy! cheers, mate!

    • @rampanttricky17
      @rampanttricky17 7 років тому +4

      For those who use handsaws (particularly with some woods), beeswax helps there as well. And if you are using a good functioning bench/hand plane bees wax can make a nice plane work great -- just scribble a bit across the base.

  • @brotherricksafety
    @brotherricksafety 7 років тому

    Cool.

  • @joeltrickcheap627
    @joeltrickcheap627 4 роки тому

    Thank you . I have a bandsaw like that. But i never try to cut a sheet metal. I think its need a special kind saw for metal. But i haven find the saw yet.

  • @BraggenritesNetwork
    @BraggenritesNetwork 4 роки тому

    Awesome thnx

  • @gl7011
    @gl7011 6 років тому

    Crap, i really wish i grabbed one of those earlier central machinery saws. Those things are built like a tank and has 4 speeds and 1 hp motor. awesome saw for the money. The current generation has 3/4 hp motor. great video btw.

  • @eviltwinx
    @eviltwinx 8 років тому +1

    Hey Jeffrey, does that bandsaw have an adjustable speed setting? It seems much slower than mine. I did buy one of the bench models, Craftsman 10", and some bi-metal blades. I've done a video on cutting aluminum with it but the speed seems crazy fast to try steel. I even bought blade wax to help. Great Craig's List find.

    • @jeffreysanto
      @jeffreysanto  8 років тому

      +eviltwinx `This bandsaw has 4 speeds that are changed by moving a belt on step pulley. It reminds me of the setup on an older craftsman wood lathe.

    • @jeetenzhurlollz8387
      @jeetenzhurlollz8387 5 років тому

      add a VFD motor control

  • @johnzudans7724
    @johnzudans7724 6 років тому +2

    What was the ft/min on those cuts?

  • @gdzan_man1459
    @gdzan_man1459 7 років тому

    Can you post a link for the specific blade you used for this.

  • @bodeine454
    @bodeine454 6 місяців тому

    I'm going to be cutting out a couple of skinner knife blades out of 3/16" thick 440C steel and I was hoping to be able to use my table top (9" I think) wood bandsaw for this. The speed isn't adjustable though so I'm not sure if it will work. I was going to try a high tooth count bi-metal blade and cut a little at a time and allow the blade to cool off between cuts so I'm hoping I can pull it off but not sure. I do have a 4 1/2 angle grinder I can use but I'd rather not if I can help it.

  • @dillwiggle2
    @dillwiggle2 6 років тому +4

    Most wood bandsaws have speeds much faster than a metal horizontal bandsaw and will dull the blade very quickly. Just as an abrasive metal chop saw cuts much faster than a dry cut chop saw, so if you try and put a metal blade on an abrasive chop saw it will work but it will dull out the blade quickly because of the speed. So its all about the SPEED of the machine thats the important part. So yes it will work but how long the blade lasts depends on the speed of the machine.

  • @Skrappie
    @Skrappie 4 роки тому

    about how long would the metal cutting blade last if only using it to cut sheet metal?

  • @peterhellyar4265
    @peterhellyar4265 4 роки тому

    Hello, i made a sliding sledge which runs in the guide rail, it cuts perfectly straight! I just purchased a wood metal blade, lets see if it works!!!

  • @SocalMarineUSA
    @SocalMarineUSA 4 роки тому

    hi - nice vid thanks, what HP is that motor?

  • @DanielCollins85
    @DanielCollins85 5 років тому

    I have to cut a piece of wood and I know it has two decking scews in it. Is that going to be a problem for my band saw to cut through?

  • @BMRStudio
    @BMRStudio 6 років тому

    Lucky boy!

  • @timberwrightsvs480
    @timberwrightsvs480 Рік тому

    @Jeffrey Santo - I realize that this video is a bit long in the tooth, but some things never change, so I was hoping to get a bit more information about the bandsaw used in this video. Harbor Freight is presently advertising a "14-inch 4-speed Woodworking Band Saw" that's made by Central Machinery (SKUs: 60564, 32208, 67595, 68835) that sells for $499.99 (February 2023). They're advertising that it weighs 167.2 pounds and that it uses 93.5-inch bands, so I was wondering if you think that it's anything like the saw you filmed herein? If not, I'd appreciate any identifying information you can find for your saw. I've both liked and subscribed, so please keep up making the informative videos. 👍

  • @Pearlequipmentcompany
    @Pearlequipmentcompany 2 роки тому

    Nice

  • @kennygee6627
    @kennygee6627 6 років тому +3

    I have an old (60s- 70s) craftsman cast iron wood cutting bandsaw that I re-powered to slow the blade feet per minute to @ 250-300 FPM. I used a snowblower auger gearbox to reduce the speed. I works awesome! I’ve been using it for about 8 years. Blades last forever, I think 3 blades in 8 years and I use it ALL the time. Steel, aluminum, sheet metal - whatever.
    Speed of blade is absolutely critical, however - another critical aspect of converting a wood saw to a metal saw is the blade. I went to www.toolcenter.com and bought .025 x 14 TPI NEO-type metal blade. There like 12 or 13 bucks apiece. These blades are totally awesome as I said earlier, they last forever. PS, I’ve never used any lubrication.

    • @68pishta68
      @68pishta68 5 років тому +1

      Kenny, throw up a vid of that reducer in action! Im doing the same to a Craftsman 12" but am using 2 go-kart chain and cogs. Its loud! I think I got it down 12:1 or about 250 fpm.

  • @stoffes
    @stoffes 7 років тому

    do u can saw off a branch in dat saw blade?

  • @fredio54
    @fredio54 Рік тому

    Hey Jeff, old video, but do you still own that machine? Have you been happy with it? I have a more worn out one similar that I need to modify/fix and am just ordering some blades for it this evening :-)

  • @gwasha11
    @gwasha11 6 років тому +1

    hi Jeffrey, Compliments of the season!!! could you let me know the details of the band saw blade company at India, I been trying to find one here at India.

    • @vikassm2383
      @vikassm2383 6 років тому +1

      Ayres deSouza try Bipico bimetal bandsaw blade from Amazon. That's what I use all the time. I'm from Bangalore.

  • @kevinarnold8981
    @kevinarnold8981 7 років тому

    It depends on the Motor and the Blade. The motor on a metal bandsaw is lower rpm.

  • @michaelhorn9267
    @michaelhorn9267 6 років тому +2

    considering cutting geometries it is a fundamental rule that you always let the tool do the work. Each tool has it's limitations in terms of cutting capacity (room for swarf and chips) and you can't run above these limits.
    BTW - the speed about which you talk in your vid is actually the cutting speed and not the feed rate. For linear cutting processes such as sawing it's a function of the rpm's while for rotating cutting such as drilling, milling or turning it's a function of rpm and tool diameter (for turning dia. of your work). While the feed rate - as the name already indicates - indicates how fast you feed your work to the tool.

  • @davejoseph5615
    @davejoseph5615 4 роки тому

    If you install a metal-cutting blade and if you feed the metal to be cut extremely slowly so that heat does not build up, and cut only thin materials...and use extreme caution, but used horizontal bandsaws are cheap (Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace) and most of them will stand up in a vertical position. All you need to do is build a small table to mount on them... My wood-cutting bandsaw has aluminum wheels with rubber tires. My metal-cutting bandsaw has cast iron wheels with no rubber tires. I think metal chips might eat up rubber tires.

  • @PaydayGabeBCNV
    @PaydayGabeBCNV 3 роки тому

    I realize this is a older video but,,
    I'm doing the same conversion.. its a 10" Rockwell model 28-113 wood cutter. It has a 3/4hp motor.
    Can I use a variable speed rotary switch to reduce the rpm speed to a comfortable level without damaging the motor.?? Thanks for any reply from anyone who would know. 🙏👍

  • @AlbiesProductsOnline
    @AlbiesProductsOnline 5 років тому

    If you are able you turn the piece vertical and the blade being straight it will cut a curfew that you can then follow and the blade will stay true and you guys all have a 5x mode but I have looked and I can’t find mine do you have to pay extra 🤔

  • @bowlweevil4161
    @bowlweevil4161 7 років тому

    Jeffrey I have cut tons of aluminum and steel on a verticle band saw and you need to stay as close to the recommended blade speed as you can and you can buy band saw blade wax in a cardboard tube you just rub the wax on the blade while it is running every 3-4 cutswax makes blades last longer and cut quicker good video thanx

  • @patricksmith4424
    @patricksmith4424 Рік тому

    Very informative video thanks. As you cannot buy a metal cutting vertical band saw it would appear converting a wood one is the only option. I think a good cross cut fence would need to he made though with clamps preferably. Many wood cutting band saws only have one t slot which is a nuisance.

    • @heisenburg1144
      @heisenburg1144 10 місяців тому

      you can absolutely buy a 14" vertical metal cutting bandsaw

  • @codprawn
    @codprawn 5 років тому

    Great video but that blade isn't set up very well. Needs tracking and more tension along with guide adjustment.

  • @davidfrank2824
    @davidfrank2824 3 роки тому

    Perhaps you or someone else can explain what do you mean by a 9-in and a 14-in saw? Is it the opening from the top of the table to the adjustable foot?
    Also thank you for putting a video out about this saw. I've seen them online and wasn't sure of the quality. It looks like I might need to check one out.

    • @jamesb7651
      @jamesb7651 3 роки тому

      Measurement is width available from blade horizontally to frame

  • @EllinonEnosis
    @EllinonEnosis 7 років тому +50

    those 5 dislikes are probably from satanists who's head started spinning around when you brought the cross at the camera :P

    • @Sumibraxis
      @Sumibraxis 7 років тому +8

      no, im a Satanist, and thankful!!

    • @EllinonEnosis
      @EllinonEnosis 7 років тому +7

      BEGONE SATAN ! hahah

    • @GEK69NY
      @GEK69NY 5 років тому +2

      No, those are who want to be people narrow-minded, not open-minded.. lol

    • @corncobjohnsonreal
      @corncobjohnsonreal 4 роки тому +4

      I just turned my screen upside down

    • @ScaredCivilian
      @ScaredCivilian 4 роки тому +2

      I disliked it because people are gonna do this. Your gonna get a few cuts before the blade is trashed at that speed. I don't care how much coolant/oil you use. It's at about 2800fpm. You want 80-200 fpm.

  • @mikegager
    @mikegager 7 років тому

    how would that blade work in nail embed pallet wood?

    • @codprawn
      @codprawn 5 років тому

      Blades like that do work but for that I prefer a Rage chopsaw

  • @ooheasy01
    @ooheasy01 3 роки тому +1

    I tried this with my Jet brand bandsaw. Brand new blade I made 3 inch and a half cuts through some 16th inch mild steel. They went very nice and I thought I was rolling. Fourth cut on some eighth inch angle and it won't cut. Need to find a smaller pulley to slow the speed down. 60 dollar blade no good!!!! Ugh!!

    • @mildyproductive9726
      @mildyproductive9726 3 роки тому

      Why can't YT figure out the truth? It's insane. We have the internet, now. But incorrect (or at least misleading) information is all that it will feed you.
      This dude can do it because his saw has 4 speeds, and the lowest is only 700 fpm. So I give him a pass, since he probably didn't know. But other YT'ers copy this guy and show how they can easily cut (one piece of) steel on their saw, while making a shower of sparks. Then they claim they "do this all the time." Yeah, right. Posers identified.

    • @mildyproductive9726
      @mildyproductive9726 3 роки тому

      I'm sure you'd like your $60.00 back. But hey, these guys made 1.2 cents off your view!

  • @jeffbeck6501
    @jeffbeck6501 5 років тому +3

    It is also about the speed, and not just the blade

  • @Dahna_
    @Dahna_ 7 років тому

    is that saw is really that quiet? wow

  • @51diogenes
    @51diogenes 6 років тому +1

    Nice video! Does this model have the multi speed pulleys?
    I've been saying this for decades. A band saw will cut anything as long as the operator selects the correct blade type, T.P.I., blade speed, feed rate and coolant if indicated. Give a skilled operator a mediocre saw,, he'll know how to do the job right. Give a ham handed baboon a good machine, he'll instinctively screw up the work and the machine.
    I've got similar Taiwanese band saw. I fabbed steel upgrades for almost all the essential die-cast parts like guides, tracking hinge, and installed a pair of four sheave pulleys. Now its a champ at just about any job.

    • @akbychoice
      @akbychoice 6 років тому

      51diogenes I just bought ($100) saw that looks identical to this saw, it has 4 different pulley selections for speed control.

    • @51diogenes
      @51diogenes 6 років тому +1

      A good score. With the two four sheave pulleys (usually 2",3", 4",5" combo) top and bottom, you'll have a decent speed range for woods. Typically, they are run with a 1425 rpm motor. Your slowest speed pulley combination you'll have is about 570 rpm. One revolution of this 14" band saw's lower drive wheel moves 44 inches of blade. So at 570 rpm you will move 2,137.5 feet of blade . At this speed you can probably cut 20 to 18 ga mild steel acceptably with a 24 tpi metal cutting blade. But at that speed you will still shorten the life of the blade somewhat. If you want to saw say 1/4" mild steel plate with this saw, a 14 tpi blade is recommended at a maximum speed of 110 to 120 FEET per minute. Your goal then is to reduce the motor input speed to 32 rpm or a bit less. BTW please check my arithmetic. Good luck with your new machine.
      Check out videos on making wooden pulley gear boxes.

  • @dementedbowine8681
    @dementedbowine8681 5 років тому

    is it quiet ? im trying to make a low noise metal workshop and a hacksaw is not a lot of fun

    • @jeffreysanto
      @jeffreysanto  5 років тому +2

      If your looking for quiet metal cutting options the best thing would be a horizontal metal cutting bandsaw. I can cut with that and you can't hear it just taking a couple of steps out into the driveway with solid stock. Hollow stock like pope can vibrate a little bit but other than that you'll forget its running. Its a good thing there is an auto shut off when the cut is finished. On thick stock the loudest part of the cut is when the drop hits the floor.

  • @jameshanoomansing1442
    @jameshanoomansing1442 4 роки тому

    asbestos ...couldn't stop laughing

  • @bobbg9041
    @bobbg9041 6 років тому

    TPI on a blade is not definitive on what the blade is used for I ran a 42" wide or 36" tall horizontal band saw with speed control we used a blade that was 24-26' long and the teeth on it cut everything from 6061 to Stainless steel the teeth were 1/4-1/2 spaced and the fillets were deep for the chip to go, it had more to do with coolant and blade speed, and what that blade was designed to do. The blade dropped straight down, we also had a pivot type saw and a roll in type saw and a doall, they all used differnt type blades.
    I cut cold rolled hot rolled stainless brass and aircraft aluminum on it all the time on the same blade, the 6061 always clogged up the guide bearings with chips.
    First time I cut Stainless steel with it I had it speed set for aluminum needless to say I case hardened the steel and burnt up a back then 400 dollar blade I'd just put on the saw new. OOPS. Got my ass chewed out for it.
    I didn't make many mistakes after that but I'll tell you if you're making parts for the welder don't cut them short, or you'll find your ass fixing the 80 parts you screwed up with a Lincoln and a lot of welding rod. Oh well I needed to learn how to lay a bead .
    I would use one of the cooling lube sticks to help keep the blade cool because you're not cooling it with coolant.
    agscompany.com/product/cut-ease-cutting-lubricant-stick-1-lb/
    You can use that on a drill press or about any tool using high speed cutting tools. Or even a hand saw on metal, Its real handy on a bandsaw and its been around for a long time, the sticks used to be green if I recall.

  • @flhusa1
    @flhusa1 7 років тому

    i put the metal cutting blade on my vertical woodcutting band saw. it works great but don't try cutting bed frame angle iron. i knew it was tough to cut but i just had to try.saw sparks and the blade will still cut plastics but not metal.

    • @rasmusb2523
      @rasmusb2523 7 років тому +1

      You do know that bed frames are hardened, right? Otherwise they would have to make them alot thicker if they should stand up to years of humping, jumping and other kinds of abuse ;)

    • @hootinouts
      @hootinouts 6 років тому

      Stay away from bedframe angle. I've ruined many a band saw blade on that stuff. Bedframe angle is made from old railroad rails and it is very tough; however, the hardness is inconsistent and you might be able to cut one part of it with no problem, then the next cut encounters a hard spot in the angle.

  • @MegaRiffraff
    @MegaRiffraff Рік тому

    👍🏻

  • @sheepleslayer586
    @sheepleslayer586 5 років тому

    Worth its wait huh lol

  • @bobweiram6321
    @bobweiram6321 3 роки тому

    You last name Santo means saint in Portuguese and Spanish. It's ironic you introduced the video with a cross. Was it to scare aware the trolls?

  • @dougvail3008
    @dougvail3008 4 роки тому

    You need to consider surface feet per minute

  • @ibidesign
    @ibidesign 5 років тому

    Might be a dumb question but, whenever I see anyone cut steel on a 'wood-cutting' bandsaw, I always wonder: don't you need some sort of cutting oil?

    • @FixNewsPlease
      @FixNewsPlease 4 роки тому

      Vertical saws generally use a stick lube like DoAll Toolsaver for the simple reasons it's a hassle to capture coolant on a vertical machine with a work table and intricate cuts are harder to make freehand under a coolant bath.

  • @nezermv
    @nezermv 10 місяців тому

    This little band saw has turned out to be the best tool purchase I've ever made ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx5ZrqmYO2uJq_nuU8TopyWxVzn8vqmPUL Once doing the set-up as per the included suggestions, this table top tool has been my go-to saw ever since (8 months as of this review). There are few things I wouldn't attempt with this saw. It takes up much less space than my table saw yet delivers twice as much punch. I've used it to create slices of wood no thicker than an 1/16th of inch by using the POWERTEC BS900RF Rip Fence. For small shop projects this tool can't be beat.

  • @daverindos1074
    @daverindos1074 4 роки тому

    If it's a Toyota!

  • @ericclaeyborn8359
    @ericclaeyborn8359 5 років тому

    Now that I saw this demonstration, I"m thinking I can cut down rocks with my bandsaw to put into a tumbler. Thank you!

    • @paulesterline5714
      @paulesterline5714 5 років тому

      A wet saw would be better... if you try it ware a respirator unless you want cement in your lungs...

    • @dougvail3008
      @dougvail3008 4 роки тому

      Ya. See how that works out for you

  • @rhiannemoll3386
    @rhiannemoll3386 3 роки тому

    Slaanesh!

  • @paulesterline5714
    @paulesterline5714 5 років тому +1

    I tried putting a metal cutting blade on my 9 ince wood cutting bandsaw it didn't EVEN cut a little! It will cut wood, and plastic, not carbon fiber, and not steel. You need to slow that blade down. Some thing is going to take a shit, sooner or later, hopefully it is minor. Think about this. If you make a band saw and all you have to do is switch the blade out why on earth would you say "this saw is for wood only" why not say "hey just change the blade and you can cut anything you want!" It would be a great marketing edge that EVERY company would use EVEN IF they sold one for metal cutting as well.

    • @mildyproductive9726
      @mildyproductive9726 3 роки тому +1

      His exact bandsaw has 4 step pulley, with 4 different speeds. The lowest speed is about 700 SFPM. Some of the smaller, portable metal cutting saws will run around 500 SFPM. So it's pretty close.
      Your 9" saw runs at like 2500 SFPM or higher. Way too fast.
      This is the reason this guy falsely believes that any bandsaw can cut steel with the right blade. Wrong. Well, technically you can cut a tiny bit before your blade is dead.

  • @nathandean1687
    @nathandean1687 7 років тому +1

    diresta does that all the time.

  • @anthonydivincenzo8827
    @anthonydivincenzo8827 6 років тому

    anybody try a rheostat for speed control ?

    • @thekehoeshow..
      @thekehoeshow.. 6 років тому +1

      anthony di vincenzo if you slow the rpm's in that manner, you will lose a lot of torque and the blade will just stop.

    • @68pishta68
      @68pishta68 5 років тому +1

      wont work on induction motor, Only on a DC motor and you wont find a DC motor rated 1HP. Only way to regulate an induction motor is a 3 phase or a variable frequency drive as its the frequency (60hz) divided by # of poles gets you ~1700-3600 RPM.

  • @ClownWhisper
    @ClownWhisper 5 років тому

    The spacing of the teeth have nothing whatsoever to do with if it's a metal or wood cutting bandsaw. TPI for wood cutting is a very important indicator on Arc of radius that you're cutting the way the wood chips are being pulled out of your curfe

  • @427med
    @427med 6 років тому +1

    you want three teeth in work for proper cut one entering one leaving one in middle of work for size of metal 100 to 300 feet of blade per minute i put a right angle gearbox in mine to slow it down

  • @rontobisch9765
    @rontobisch9765 7 років тому

    Hi , can you show us the pulley setup on the bandsaw please

    • @jeffreysanto
      @jeffreysanto  7 років тому +1

      I wish I could, I sold that about 2 months ago to a buddy of mine who was getting into wood working. I believe that there were 4 positions the belt could be moved to. Tell you what, if you would like to send me a privet message with your e-mail address I will be over his place this Thursday. I'd be more than happy to take a couple of pictures for you and send them over.

  • @stephanieharper2421
    @stephanieharper2421 6 років тому

    True fact. I have cut asbestos tiles on a band saw. Wearing a standard dust mask. Good old General Dynamics...

  • @miguelhita149
    @miguelhita149 2 роки тому

    Just so everyone knows there is no such thing as a woodcutting blade and a steel cutting blade. There is Carbon, Bimetal, Carbide and Diamond blades .The most common blade for wood is Carbon and that is the least expensive. You can cut Carbon steel, and Aluminum with these Carbon blades . Bimetal is used for most steels from carbon steel to stainless steel.
    Carbide is used on exotic hardwoods, and can be used to cut just about any steel or wood.
    Carbide is expensive , and the more teeth the blade has the more expensive it gets. Diamond saw blades are used to cut quartz, glass, ceramic and other materials.. Carbon, Bimetal, Carbide and Diamond is what the blades are made of . No wood or metal blade.

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Рік тому

    what am i doing in life, i have two mini bandsaw and one of them sucks for wood, i could have been cutting metal this whole time! duh