To The Point: Former President Pranab Mukherjee Exclusive Interview To Rajdeep Sardesai

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  • Watch the former President's first interview after stepping down from the position. Pranab Mukherjee talks about his recently released book in an exclusive interview with India Today.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 819

  • @kutchch
    @kutchch 7 років тому +1684

    who came here only to C how pranab daa slashed rajdeep sardesai..😂😂😂

  • @suryapratap6250
    @suryapratap6250 3 роки тому +76

    If anyone is having a problem in searching that "scolding clip"..let me tell you the point of time
    09:56 😂😂😂

  • @MrRajnikhil
    @MrRajnikhil 7 років тому +515

    9.53... Rajdeep shown his place... He lacks rspct...

    • @ritiksharma4546
      @ritiksharma4546 7 років тому +22

      Thanks, I came here only to see that.

    • @gabrielnadar5985
      @gabrielnadar5985 7 років тому +10

      He did not raised his voice, his voice is normal, pranab mukherjee is right when he said don't interrupt, which all journalist nowadays do.

    • @humungous09
      @humungous09 7 років тому +5

      Ritik Sharma I came to see the warning as well..

    • @ravirajghodke7255
      @ravirajghodke7255 6 років тому +3

      I was here for that only...thank you for saving time..

    • @sandeshkumar8500
      @sandeshkumar8500 6 років тому +2

      Thank you, saved my time..

  • @AniketSingh-ts1mq
    @AniketSingh-ts1mq 5 років тому +91

    9:48 If what u came for 😂😂

  • @rahulsingh-px6vo
    @rahulsingh-px6vo 7 років тому +347

    Shameless Rajdeep Sardesai forgotten all the ethical values after 2014.
    Mind got empty but pockets are full.

  • @MrTyagim
    @MrTyagim 7 років тому +61

    Dr. Pranab Mukherjee - a brilliant man.

  • @air9269
    @air9269 7 років тому +163

    Rajdeep can you please resign and do something else. You have lost cerdebility and respect of millions of Indians. This apparently happened because you think you are epitome of journalism, in reality your words and news doesn't sound geniune at all.

  • @devankaeron4541
    @devankaeron4541 7 років тому +35

    Small people discuss people
    ordinary people discuss events
    great people discuss ideas......
    Pranab Da being the legend discussed wisdom

  • @dandalasuman
    @dandalasuman 4 роки тому +16

    At the end Pranab also said to Rajdeep that “Sorry for I became little rude to you” , that’s Pranab

  • @pankaj4u4
    @pankaj4u4 7 років тому +317

    What a childish interviewer full of stupid questions. The guy is still living in the DD era thinking trying to humiliate the former president represents his interviewing skills.

    • @AnkitUmrao
      @AnkitUmrao 7 років тому +5

      Pankaj Agrawal
      When BJP kick him ...people think BJP id arrogant.

    • @bluesajjad1
      @bluesajjad1 7 років тому +1

      Ek Agrawal bhakt mil gaya

    • @ashwinikumar6803
      @ashwinikumar6803 7 років тому +11

      dont compare it with dd, u could say their presentation skill is bad bt they dont put finger in your mouth to tell something

    • @pankaj4u4
      @pankaj4u4 7 років тому +3

      no not comparing with DD, just the era when journalism was raw and interviewers to gain fame tried humiliating their guests, more so in the movie industry

    • @bluesajjad1
      @bluesajjad1 7 років тому

      lag gaya piswade mein beta? LOL.......jo bhi hoon, troll nehi hoon, tera jaisa gaandu nehi hoon.
      do paise ke liye ass licking karte ho aur chillate ho......Rum Rum

  • @MrRajnikhil
    @MrRajnikhil 7 років тому +331

    He is also point fingers on the ex president... Such a shame.. He lacks basic ethics

    • @paulamrana8981
      @paulamrana8981 6 років тому +4

      The indian Nationalist lol it doesnt matters whether he shows or points fingers because he may be the ex president etc. etc. But pranab is actually a dubious person and not only that there are many other intriguing things that people do not know and his presidency and modi's govt and the failure of this nation there are many things that are fishy in fact pranab had a long lasting history with the congress in fact he was a troubleshooter but what kind of troubleshooter only god knows ohh bdw being a Bengali being at the centre for a long time and being an FM he didn't do anything for his state then what the hell is he bragging about just releasing some sought of fictious books memoirs does not answer anything in fact he didn't take any step against modi govt. when this hopeless govt. started to termite the nations economy and overall hopeless policies

    • @sourabhmorkhandikar3646
      @sourabhmorkhandikar3646 4 роки тому +9

      @@paulamrana8981 Chamcha spotted 🖕🖕😂😂

    • @aditiban002
      @aditiban002 4 роки тому +1

      Nikhil Rajkhowa. No fan of Rajdeep. But gotta say Rajdeep was moving his hand as a gesture but nnnah.. neverpointed his fingers at the ex-prez

    • @Capt_Sid
      @Capt_Sid 4 роки тому +2

      aditi banerjee are you fucking blind. Right after Pranab asked him to speak with courtesy he points right at him

    • @uh-oh323
      @uh-oh323 4 роки тому

      So uncouth. Pointing a finger while talking to someone.. What a joker🙄

  • @poisonoustoxin
    @poisonoustoxin 4 роки тому +14

    At 10:07 , look how he says sorry to that fool Sardesai for teaching him a lesson. The perfect gentleman, RIP The Legend.

  • @ranjankrishnapaul8118
    @ranjankrishnapaul8118 7 років тому +59

    Sir rajdeep sardard plz it's high time just take the retirement plan seriously.

  • @atuldhiman132
    @atuldhiman132 7 років тому +96

    Pranab Da just got my huge respect when he considered NDA led government as his vovernment and refused to comment on DeMo and GST from a political perspective.🙏🙏🙏

    • @rahulnamaste
      @rahulnamaste 7 років тому +2

      how can he criticize his own policies? that is why he didn't say anything

    • @paulamrana8981
      @paulamrana8981 6 років тому +2

      Atul Kumar exactly this man is actually a dubious and a very cunning politician he didn't do anything during his tenure except for making money for himself

  • @HarshKumar-sb3wt
    @HarshKumar-sb3wt 4 роки тому +15

    Who is came after the rest in peace of former president pranab Mukherjee
    RIP 🙏🙏

  • @15incognito
    @15incognito 7 років тому +85

    Pranab da is so decent...he is a school within himself, how can a Italian waitress understand his value? We would have seen and lived through a different India provided Pranab da was the Prime Minister . Rajdeep got a lesson. Look at Pranab da at the end he said sorry to Rajdeep. This is what to learn from ex President! I am so proud of you Pranab Da!

  • @suchith9327
    @suchith9327 6 років тому +8

    My perception of this man ( pranabji) changed from last 2 to 3 years . If we have 10 persons like. Him or even 50 percent like him in the govt our country would go miles away sky is the limit . He is not only genius but humble good human being . His body language does not suggest that so common people like me can get deceive ( with low IQ) by it . But after gathering knowledge about him he is really at another level of intellectuality . God bless him for his rest of years with good health.

  • @trnchawla
    @trnchawla 7 років тому +76

    Narendra Modi Govt was my government, well said Pranab Da !

    • @rahulnamaste
      @rahulnamaste 7 років тому +3

      He did not do any favour to Modi. all actions of the executive is in the name of the President.

    • @trnchawla
      @trnchawla 7 років тому +9

      I understand that sir. But I find him extremely apolitical and sensible.

  • @milliondollarquestion3447
    @milliondollarquestion3447 4 роки тому +54

    who is here after his death? very sad news for indian politics RIP Sir

  • @2491000
    @2491000 7 років тому +291

    No basic ethics of interview of former president. Senior interviewer only looking for bites for headlines....

    • @susengupsusengup1229
      @susengupsusengup1229 7 років тому +9

      yet in the end, it is Dr. Mukherjee who said sorry first for his "reminder" to the shameless interviewer! .. speaks of his own integrity and humility even as the former president of the country!!

    • @gururajavittal4394
      @gururajavittal4394 7 років тому +2

      Rajdeep are u not ashemed still u feel and continue as anchor any body in ur place would have committed suicide you.shameles an apology for journalism. I should blame Dileep who is responsible for giving birth for such a traitor

    • @rahulraichand6963
      @rahulraichand6963 6 років тому +2

      raju is a chutiya fellow .. shameless gandu

    • @premsagarsharma2907
      @premsagarsharma2907 6 років тому +3

      Mr Pranab Mukerjee certainly is very graceful in all his replies. Rajdasai should have said sorry at the end of the interview.

  • @rahulnamaste
    @rahulnamaste 7 років тому +44

    The level of his knowledge is colossal. He is a nationalist for sure

  • @RSI7368
    @RSI7368 7 років тому +51

    Moronic questions 😂..cannot expect any better.. Pranabda in the first place should not have accepted this interview.

    • @akarshh3136
      @akarshh3136 6 років тому

      Raghu S iyer especially when he ask which is better between coalition and majority govt...is he nutts or wat

  • @basantakumardhakal9436
    @basantakumardhakal9436 7 років тому +203

    Worst interview. Sharam karo mr interviewer

  • @Jackwesker3232
    @Jackwesker3232 7 років тому +10

    While Asking questions Rajdeep forgets that the Person infront of him is Former President of India,..... and not any local MP or MLA or someone like Raj Thakeray.

  • @adhirajsinghshekhawat2127
    @adhirajsinghshekhawat2127 4 роки тому +16

    Who came here after his death😢 RIP

  • @rajeshgupta866
    @rajeshgupta866 7 років тому +74

    This joker was rightly shown his place by the president. Dosnt know how to talk to an ex president. Shows humbleness only to his master Sonia.

  • @merusikharatechnologies9643
    @merusikharatechnologies9643 7 років тому +55

    Rajdeep I will teach you manners if u want it free.
    First of all the UPA2 was failed by congress due to its corruption
    And you want to make the president say otherwise failure of upa2 was becos of difficulties it had with coalition partners
    Are you even fit to be even called a journalist forget editor

  • @abhisheksain4251
    @abhisheksain4251 7 років тому +55

    दादा ने कह कर ले ली राजदीप की

  • @Abhilash9145
    @Abhilash9145 4 роки тому +5

    Lovely Interview. Pranab Sir is great Man in Indian Politics ✌️ I pray for his good health. Except few places, Rajdeep Sir you have taken the interview very well.

  • @ms439
    @ms439 7 років тому +25

    I appreciate pranab da views and ideas about India.

  • @ahsanaziz50
    @ahsanaziz50 4 роки тому +5

    RIP Sir... there will be many who will watch this after listening the sad news of your demise.

  • @shashankdubey90
    @shashankdubey90 7 років тому +8

    If only today's politicians had even 10% of this man's statesmanship politics would have been much civil.

  • @ritwizshrivastava7440
    @ritwizshrivastava7440 7 років тому +21

    Pranab da sir... U earned lot of respect being one of the most seasoned politicians we have today... Being finance minister... Or even being the President of this country.
    But ur comment today where u termed NDA led govt to be your govt was just amazing... Showed the class and greatness of you as an X President of India

  • @Jansurajksathbiharkavikas
    @Jansurajksathbiharkavikas 7 років тому +38

    This man's mindset is full of communal shame on u rajdeep

  • @merusikharatechnologies9643
    @merusikharatechnologies9643 7 років тому +21

    These Indian journalists talk more than the one they r interviewing
    May be they r still graduating

  • @sandeepan25
    @sandeepan25 7 років тому +11

    Greatest statesman alive. "It was my government" comment is a great lesson to understand how parliamentary democracy should work. To his wellness. amen.

    • @Sometimes_Happiness
      @Sometimes_Happiness 2 роки тому

      I was very impressed by that. A true statesman and a true public servant. Not many politicians anywhere in the world would be willing to take that sort of personal responsibility when you're the head of state of a different party of the government. Lots of respect to him and to Indian democracy for making him her president.

  • @nagunar8763
    @nagunar8763 6 років тому +3

    The best statement from the interview 'if India wanishes, nothing remains'..just loved it.

  • @siddharthchauhan8743
    @siddharthchauhan8743 6 років тому +4

    Its a privilege to have such politicians like Pranab Mukherjee who commands a holistic view on the long journey of democracy, has been at the helm of affairs for considerably long time and reached to the top post. A person of this stature has risen to legendary heights in eyes of common man when he lents us the impartial view of the system at the time when almost every politician is busy in partisan politics irrespective of what kind of constitutional responsibility one is bearing .

  • @manish3889
    @manish3889 7 років тому +20

    Despite slamming, he continued to do the same.

  • @Shortguyz
    @Shortguyz 7 років тому +63

    Thank god Rajdeep did not start with 2002 ;)

  • @UPSChotelwala
    @UPSChotelwala 7 років тому +11

    pranav da you were one of the great president

  • @sharatm3812
    @sharatm3812 6 років тому +3

    Nice and educative interview.. Former Pres. is humble enough to accept at the end that he was bit rude that's great!!

  • @rigzinyuthok8527
    @rigzinyuthok8527 4 роки тому +3

    Rajdeep got a good smashing by the Pranab Sir. he deserves that one..✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️

  • @saravananmariyappan5265
    @saravananmariyappan5265 6 років тому +4

    Great man done the job exceptionally well , I really proud of pranap ji, very decent man all the time 🙏🙏🙏🙏🇮🇳

  • @manojlele
    @manojlele 7 років тому +3

    Great maturity shown by Pranav da , kept high moral

  • @7Sujoy
    @7Sujoy 7 років тому +57

    Don't mess with a Bengali. They know very well to remind that "what is your position".
    Look that 'Murkha' Rajdeep, way of talk and look at Mr Former President. This Rajdeep really a Rascal.

  • @bluesajjad1
    @bluesajjad1 7 років тому +6

    Very good interview, full of insight.

  • @dsgblal1
    @dsgblal1 6 років тому +3

    Pranab Daa love u. Learned so much from this small interview, eager to read your books to learn as much as possible. I really learned how to avoid giving importance to obvious and superfluous, and how clarity of concepts and thinking help separate chaff from the brawn.

  • @koushalpatel
    @koushalpatel 7 років тому +16

    I was eager to know the past of our former president's life, his thoughts, his vast experience. I feel so bad watching these type of stupid questions.
    An example of best interview with another former president, Dr. Kalam by Arnab is best where Arnab asks about his past, wanted to focus on the leanings Kalam made. Shri Kalam also spoke about his wonderful journey and lessons on leadership and other beautiful aspects of life.

  • @manojlele
    @manojlele 7 років тому +2

    प्रणव दादा proud of you and your thinking , very mature answers shared

  • @siddharthraj1403
    @siddharthraj1403 7 років тому +33

    Rajdeep seems like someone who is immune to all the negative criticisms that he has "achieved" (not just received) since 2014 and someone who cannot feel any shame for saying sorry multiple times. He is a loser. India today is losing respect that is being gained by Anjana Om Kashyap and Rahul Kanwal because of Sardesai.

  • @amitnarayanmehta
    @amitnarayanmehta 7 років тому +13

    This person deserved to be PM of India in 2004.

    • @sapphire2172
      @sapphire2172 6 років тому +3

      amit mehta yes agreed... Shud have been the PM in 2014 as well

    • @sln7839
      @sln7839 4 роки тому

      He also would have been a puppet like MMS.

    • @rourib.dutt20
      @rourib.dutt20 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@sln7839nope, Bengalis never become puppet for anyone!

    • @sln7839
      @sln7839 11 місяців тому +1

      @@rourib.dutt20 Probably that’s why he wasn’t chosen as they needed a loyal puppet.

    • @rourib.dutt20
      @rourib.dutt20 11 місяців тому

      @@sln7839 yes :)

  • @samelight5958
    @samelight5958 6 років тому +1

    Wow! The former Indian President is indeed a man of great wisdom and finesse.

  • @atuljathar1222
    @atuljathar1222 7 років тому +33

    Yellow journalism shame on you rajdeep

  • @prabhalaramakumar499
    @prabhalaramakumar499 7 років тому +3

    Sir You are one of the greatest politicians who is respected by every Indian.

  • @pradyutkumarmahana204
    @pradyutkumarmahana204 7 років тому +4

    INDIAN Identity best described by pranav da, respected former President.

  • @rajateshkmaji
    @rajateshkmaji 6 років тому +2

    I was wondering if Congress would be in a better position today had Mr Mukherjee been promoted as the prime minister by the Congress in 2009. It was indeed a privilege to hear Mr Mukherjee! I need to read the memoirs now 😊

  • @renjithraj4834
    @renjithraj4834 7 років тому +1

    Hats off Pranab Mukherjee ji. You are the real reason for the existence of INC now and how INC have overcome the difficult periods.

  • @souravghosh2161
    @souravghosh2161 Рік тому +2

    He is one of the greatest politicians of India..

  • @worthwatching4924
    @worthwatching4924 7 років тому +4

    Pranab ji demonstrated once again his statesmanship. One should really appreciate his respect towards the president post, and never allowed it to come low by commenting on his own(Modi's) govt.

  • @trybolero
    @trybolero 7 років тому +2

    India Today, why dont you have guts show this interview uncut? Your cuts are clearly noticable and clearly very political.

  • @sasikumarn27
    @sasikumarn27 7 років тому +3

    OUR PM MODIJI SHOWED TO HIM DUE RESPECT AND COURTESY ALWAYS WHETHER HE IS IN OR OUT OF OFFICE ! IF HE COMES EVEN THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT WILL STAND UP WITH ALL HIS HUMILITY. I CANNOT USE THE WORDS HERE , THAT SARDESAI DESERVES ALONG WITH THE NAME OF PRANABDA.... HE SHOWEDTHE RIGHT PLACE WHERE Mr, SARDESAI BELONGS ! THE GUTTER.

  • @AnkitUmrao
    @AnkitUmrao 7 років тому +6

    Thanks Dada, Last worlds Politics is not confined to individuals. Your dissent is awesome...we understand what is stopping congress to rejuvenate again.

  • @venujagarlamudi8604
    @venujagarlamudi8604 7 років тому +46

    I am not eager to appear on TV. Ha ha

  • @vasudevrameshbabu3427
    @vasudevrameshbabu3427 6 років тому +2

    The moment someone apologises, he becomes a wonderful person for me. Because one needs a lot of credibility to do that. So I appreciate the interviewer

  • @FabSanju
    @FabSanju 6 років тому +1

    pillar of indian parliamentary democracy mr mukherjee.. long live sir. we always need stalwarts like you to have a say in the country's welfare.

  • @drranjeetkumarlal5248
    @drranjeetkumarlal5248 6 років тому +2

    contrary to the comments below..to my mind .. it was an excellent interview credited to both pranab da and rajdeep...
    an real enlightening

  • @ajinkyagadgil2747
    @ajinkyagadgil2747 7 років тому +15

    Rajdeep Sardesai, most insulted editor. 😂😂😂

    • @rakeshreddy1571
      @rakeshreddy1571 4 роки тому

      Sorry bhai.. But I genuinely feel he must hv been very bad at writing LEAVE LETTERS in school..That continued in his chosen career.. SUCH A WASTE

  • @akanitkar1078
    @akanitkar1078 7 років тому +7

    Dadas perfect slap to a prestitute

  • @prissyp8529
    @prissyp8529 5 років тому +2

    Mr. Rajdeep Sardesai ... Enjoyed your show throughly. You always conduct your interviews with great grace. As an interviewer, sometimes it becomes difficult to understand the guests ... you still did a great job.👍

  • @ManojSingh-bb9ib
    @ManojSingh-bb9ib 4 роки тому +1

    Well done with Rajdeep Manners are very important.

  • @psrreddy6478
    @psrreddy6478 2 роки тому +1

    Miss you sir we love you from Telangana state.

  • @AniketSingh-ts1mq
    @AniketSingh-ts1mq 4 роки тому +4

    That is the reason exactly why this guy was thrashed in New York 🤦😂

  • @bretrulz
    @bretrulz 6 років тому +1

    Too seasoned to expect anything or regret anything, marvelously put!

  • @adityakhunteta9028
    @adityakhunteta9028 4 роки тому +1

    R.I.P. Shri Pranab Mukherjee

  • @nisargchauhan1706
    @nisargchauhan1706 6 років тому +12

    10:01 to 10:25 thax me later😂😂

  • @nitinj6
    @nitinj6 6 років тому +1

    Interviewer is more interested in asking questions rather than listening to the answers

  • @Dachrful
    @Dachrful 6 років тому +1

    I liked the way he pronounced his Bengali name as
    Pro-nob Moo-khaar-ji and not Prah-nab Mu-ker-ji :)
    Every Indian should pronounce their names as per their mother tongue,as it sounds more sweeter in my view.

  • @mdarbaaz4896
    @mdarbaaz4896 7 років тому +10

    Past things do not lead to further new... Leave it... Past is past..

  • @souryamajumdar953
    @souryamajumdar953 5 років тому +1

    India is proud of you sir,fully deserved Bharat Ratna

  • @Bibilophile01
    @Bibilophile01 2 роки тому +1

    At 36:36 Former Indian President make apology on his rudeness on Rajdip, that is pranab Mukherjee lots of love.. there are no such curtecious politicians today's era.

  • @arunprakashmishra6313
    @arunprakashmishra6313 7 років тому +1

    rajdeep tried very hard to put his words in Pranab's mouth...but Pranab sir is a seasoned politician......

  • @sharad7783
    @sharad7783 7 років тому +7

    Superbly shown the place....

    • @sharad7783
      @sharad7783 7 років тому

      Bugger should remember for lifetime.

  • @arnavsawhney
    @arnavsawhney 3 роки тому +3

    Even after getting rebuked for interruptions he's still pointing fingers at the President 10:20

  • @shashankkumar209
    @shashankkumar209 6 років тому +5

    Indians,who are watching this interview. Good thing to learn from our beloved ex-president Pranab Da @33:00 to 34:10(apart from Rajdeep sardesai stupidity).Thankyou Pranab Da☺

  • @hardikdave3776
    @hardikdave3776 7 років тому +11

    creat a journalist like rohit sardana but not like rajdeep sardesai...
    kitna different he dono RS me

  • @kubervishwas4716
    @kubervishwas4716 7 років тому +1

    India will always indebt to Pranab da for his work as a good politician,FM , & President .We have seen politics & greedy politicians work only for money,no values & knowledge , but Only because of politicians like Pranab da, India's democracy is thriving , else it were collapsed very early in the eighty's. Thank u very much Pranab da for ur devotion to people of India.

  • @kush-d4205
    @kush-d4205 6 років тому

    Me....Also..came to see that...And offcource..Pranav da ...speak very well.... Always nice to here him...God bless him.. Healthy life....

  • @venkateswaranbalasubramani5534
    @venkateswaranbalasubramani5534 4 роки тому +3

    If he had become PM, the CONgress would have continued in power even today. Surprised that a political Novice Italian Antonio Maino was given the opportunity to decide, who should be the PM of Hindustan.

  • @dksingh1900
    @dksingh1900 7 років тому +2

    Pranab Da the statesman...
    You were good Rajdeep sir as much as I could see. Thanks for the interview.

    • @prissyp8529
      @prissyp8529 5 років тому +1

      Devendra Kumar Singh ... I agree with you. As an interviewer you have to ask difficult questions too.

  • @rsj6894
    @rsj6894 6 років тому +1

    As a whole, Rajdeep Sardesai handled the interview very well. He did not lose his balance in spite of a rebuke from the ex President. It is an honest mistake and well handled by both of them.

  • @ankmun2684
    @ankmun2684 6 років тому +2

    Manmohan was proficient in silence..😂

  • @rohitdass3358
    @rohitdass3358 7 років тому +26

    pranab dada is great
    Worst interviewer i have ever seen

  • @AmitDas-ty4fb
    @AmitDas-ty4fb 6 років тому +1

    Wow! Such an informative interview.. That's why Pranabda truly deserves the highest respect in 20th and 21st Century. Great Rajeedeep! I appreciate the way you handled and instantly apologized to the former president for your mistake. That's a piece of honest journalism!

  • @raunakmhatre9844
    @raunakmhatre9844 7 років тому +1

    Why do people even agree to be interviewed by Rajdeep Sardesai

  • @csbalajicsb3778
    @csbalajicsb3778 7 років тому +1

    nice interview. Very informative and useful

  • @Vgvivek123
    @Vgvivek123 7 років тому +2

    9:53 min is the proof that he could be a flambuyant prime minister India could ever had.....

  • @OpenMinded2509
    @OpenMinded2509 2 роки тому +2

    Was it live? Because if it wasn't they could have easily edited it...

  • @anjanikumar8648
    @anjanikumar8648 7 років тому +3

    Even I don’t like congress but I respect and admired my former president....

  • @prabhubagul3447
    @prabhubagul3447 Рік тому +1

    What is significant that , anchor can easily edit that little hard part, but he did not.