Fun stuff, I went am32 back in November last year and the initial bootloader flash was quite a challenge... It's fun to tinker though and boy does it work well.
Wow, I almost bought one of these ESC's and a Holmes revolver. I'm extremely happy I went with a fusion instead. I person shouldn't have to go through this to make something they paid for work correctly
Fusions are great-- we have 4 in the fleet here-- but the torque and low speed still isn't as good as what an outrunner can do. You can also run super-shorty outrunner motors that weigh around 2oz. I don't see the programming as a drawback-- I program every single ESC in the fleet, because pretty much nothing just works perfectly out of the box. This is also a great example of cost vs. labor. For a BLHeli32 ESC, the programmer, the arduino to tune it, and a mid/low KV outrunner, you're looking at maybe $75, around the same price as a HW1080 and a sealed-can brushed motor, but with incomparable performance. Oh, and most heli ESCs will handle at least 4S. The Ninja can handle 6S.
I understand your pain. I love to tinker but I've got an outrunner, the arduino and the st-link and I am having a hard time connecting, flashing, etc...
My servo tester/lipo Volt checker shows a low of 1000, high of 2000 and thus neutral at 1500 steps. The signal is a variable puls length which I can see with a scope. I assume you don`t own/know how to use a scope but than you can see what exactly the radio is outputting. Without knowing specifics either 1450 or 1550 is moving the centre the right way. Current settings has the deadzone of 75 all the way in the throttle so... If 1530 is better than 14XX than closer to 1600 is probably what you need with 0 trim. If trim 30 is also 30 steps and halve of 75... I guess 1590 1600 is likely the number we seek.
I'm not familiar with the Airtronics MT3, but I would assume there is a neutral center point that can be adjusted. And if not...do outrunner motors have timing that can be adjusted? Maybe adjust that timing in the forward direction. That should help with the throttle forward vs the reverse.
The timing on the motor can be set through the ESC, but going too far is gonna get heat. As I've said, the issue isn't with the ESC, but rather with the Airtronics/Sanwa radios I've had kicking around here for ages. I wanna say the MX3X is from around 2009 or so. There's probably deadband/neutral adjustment on my MT-4 radios (I have a couple of those as well) but the 3X was the "budget" 3-channel offering from Sanwa back then. Didn't stop it from being $180. Any $60 "modern" radio has no such issues.
@@CrawlerCanyon 10-4. I hope you get it working the way you want it too. I also use the MT-4 and while I'm not sure how long I've owned it...I did purchase it the month they were released. I'm anxious to see you use the heli esc out on the rocks.
You can contact AG Innovations through their Facebook page-- facebook.com/AG-Innovations-107283858589174 I don't know if they have another contact format. I bought mine through there, and received it in just a few days after ordering.
If you can reliably get Boot Camp/ Parallels running on it, I suppose so. The other, less labor-intensive option is to wait to see what Amazon offers during Prime Days-- they've already got a decent number of Windows laptops for around 150 bucks. On sale we might see a hundred. Even I'm not averse to picking up something newer and faster.
Am I understanding that you got through the BLHeli software and ran the bootloader, but can't get the ESC config tool to work? When you downloaded the ESC_Config_tool_1_82_WIN.zip from the Google Drive, did you click the download button to get the whole package? I don't think in Windows, so that wasn't immediately clear to me. The Config tool works pretty much like the bootloader, as far as I can recall.
@@CrawlerCanyon Yea I was able to configure the ESC with the Blheli software and use it in my crawler but I couldn’t get connected to the AM32 config tool. I’ll go back and check the download setting. That’s for all the hard work in your videos.
@@cybron7089 It's most likely the initial bootloader flash, the part where you run the config tool. It took me a couple of tries to get that installed, and once it flashed correctly everything went super smooth from then on.
@@CrawlerCanyon hi. Thank you for the reply. I downloaded the available multi esc tool 1.70 and it didnt work. I flashed the arduino with blheli32suite for about 6 times. What now?
If you have successfully gotten into the BLHeli software, it's in one of the checkboxes there on the lefthand side, just below Variable PWM (which should be on) and right above Stuck Rotor Protection (which should be off.)
@@CrawlerCanyon thank you so much everything is new to me your answer is really helpful to me and BLheli software will they work with any esc blheli on the market i mean esc blheli of any company
I've heard tell of people running brushed motors off of AM 32s, but if I'm buying one, it's to run an outrunner. I can't see a situation where you could get better performance out of a different motor.
@@PHILLIPfry2010 you can run an outrunner on any brushless ESC, it just won’t have as good low speed, and will sound some level of terrible. The PWM noise can get absolutely screamy with some ESCs.
I appreciate you covering the basics but if I'm honest, I'm as confused after watching your video as I was before. Clearly, you're not comfortable with the terminology or programming of this esc. As this video was several months ago, maybe you could revisit it (if you haven't already) and do an update? Thanks for trying to help 👍
Fun stuff, I went am32 back in November last year and the initial bootloader flash was quite a challenge... It's fun to tinker though and boy does it work well.
Wow, I almost bought one of these ESC's and a Holmes revolver. I'm extremely happy I went with a fusion instead. I person shouldn't have to go through this to make something they paid for work correctly
Fusions are great-- we have 4 in the fleet here-- but the torque and low speed still isn't as good as what an outrunner can do. You can also run super-shorty outrunner motors that weigh around 2oz. I don't see the programming as a drawback-- I program every single ESC in the fleet, because pretty much nothing just works perfectly out of the box.
This is also a great example of cost vs. labor. For a BLHeli32 ESC, the programmer, the arduino to tune it, and a mid/low KV outrunner, you're looking at maybe $75, around the same price as a HW1080 and a sealed-can brushed motor, but with incomparable performance. Oh, and most heli ESCs will handle at least 4S. The Ninja can handle 6S.
@@CrawlerCanyon As well as sometimes it's just plain fun to tinker.
I understand your pain. I love to tinker but I've got an outrunner, the arduino and the st-link and I am having a hard time connecting, flashing, etc...
Ever since I got my hands on a pancake out runner I have been obsessed. The addiction is real. I currently have 5 and counting
My servo tester/lipo Volt checker shows a low of 1000, high of 2000 and thus neutral at 1500 steps.
The signal is a variable puls length which I can see with a scope.
I assume you don`t own/know how to use a scope but than you can see what exactly the radio is outputting.
Without knowing specifics either 1450 or 1550 is moving the centre the right way.
Current settings has the deadzone of 75 all the way in the throttle so...
If 1530 is better than 14XX than closer to 1600 is probably what you need with 0 trim.
If trim 30 is also 30 steps and halve of 75... I guess 1590 1600 is likely the number we seek.
Perfect timing! Thank you for this!
Loading the boot loader on the arduino is a pain
Bobble heads as crawler figures should be standard practice😂
I'm not familiar with the Airtronics MT3, but I would assume there is a neutral center point that can be adjusted.
And if not...do outrunner motors have timing that can be adjusted? Maybe adjust that timing in the forward direction. That should help with the throttle forward vs the reverse.
The timing on the motor can be set through the ESC, but going too far is gonna get heat. As I've said, the issue isn't with the ESC, but rather with the Airtronics/Sanwa radios I've had kicking around here for ages. I wanna say the MX3X is from around 2009 or so. There's probably deadband/neutral adjustment on my MT-4 radios (I have a couple of those as well) but the 3X was the "budget" 3-channel offering from Sanwa back then. Didn't stop it from being $180. Any $60 "modern" radio has no such issues.
@@CrawlerCanyon 10-4. I hope you get it working the way you want it too.
I also use the MT-4 and while I'm not sure how long I've owned it...I did purchase it the month they were released.
I'm anxious to see you use the heli esc out on the rocks.
Will this work wilth any esc if you know? I wonder if my hobbywing max6 will be able to run a multi rotor esc 🤔
I have to try this, the ESCs are so much cheaper
Anyone, i can’t connect the m1. I’m guessing because the arduino nano won’t turn to light green. What the solution?
Did you make a video on how to make the usb a programmer?
Try setting the 1530 to 1500 that is normally the center of the band. The high is 2000 & low should be 0
Nope, low is 1000
I just bent pin D2 out of the way, I'm not planning to use the Arduino for anything else.
Great video. Do you have a link for the ESC?
You can contact AG Innovations through their Facebook page-- facebook.com/AG-Innovations-107283858589174
I don't know if they have another contact format. I bought mine through there, and received it in just a few days after ordering.
Do you have a video of this in action?
I have an old 2013 Mack air book is it possible to use it I’ve been having trouble.
If you can reliably get Boot Camp/ Parallels running on it, I suppose so. The other, less labor-intensive option is to wait to see what Amazon offers during Prime Days-- they've already got a decent number of Windows laptops for around 150 bucks. On sale we might see a hundred. Even I'm not averse to picking up something newer and faster.
I was able to get the Blheli software to work but I couldn’t get the AM32 config tool to work.
Am I understanding that you got through the BLHeli software and ran the bootloader, but can't get the ESC config tool to work? When you downloaded the ESC_Config_tool_1_82_WIN.zip from the Google Drive, did you click the download button to get the whole package? I don't think in Windows, so that wasn't immediately clear to me. The Config tool works pretty much like the bootloader, as far as I can recall.
@@CrawlerCanyon Yea I was able to configure the ESC with the Blheli software and use it in my crawler but I couldn’t get connected to the AM32 config tool. I’ll go back and check the download setting. That’s for all the hard work in your videos.
Hello. I also have the problem that i cannot connect with the multi esc tool to the esc. M1 button "fails"
@@cybron7089 It's most likely the initial bootloader flash, the part where you run the config tool. It took me a couple of tries to get that installed, and once it flashed correctly everything went super smooth from then on.
@@CrawlerCanyon hi. Thank you for the reply. I downloaded the available multi esc tool 1.70 and it didnt work. I flashed the arduino with blheli32suite for about 6 times. What now?
Do you know why mine would be saying it cannot connect after doing all the steps correctly?
Double, then triple check that you have the connector from the ESC plugged into the correct pins on the Arduino. I've gotten it wrong more than once.
please help me how to be able to run bidirectional on that esc
If you have successfully gotten into the BLHeli software, it's in one of the checkboxes there on the lefthand side, just below Variable PWM (which should be on) and right above Stuck Rotor Protection (which should be off.)
@@CrawlerCanyon thank you so much everything is new to me your answer is really helpful to me and BLheli software will they work with any esc blheli on the market i mean esc blheli of any company
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Do you have to run an outrunner with the am35?
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I've heard tell of people running brushed motors off of AM 32s, but if I'm buying one, it's to run an outrunner. I can't see a situation where you could get better performance out of a different motor.
Can you run an outrunner with other types of esc? I have some rtrs and rx8 and hobbywing sc esc.
@@PHILLIPfry2010 you can run an outrunner on any brushless ESC, it just won’t have as good low speed, and will sound some level of terrible. The PWM noise can get absolutely screamy with some ESCs.
I appreciate you covering the basics but if I'm honest, I'm as confused after watching your video as I was before. Clearly, you're not comfortable with the terminology or programming of this esc. As this video was several months ago, maybe you could revisit it (if you haven't already) and do an update? Thanks for trying to help 👍