Yeah, I always believed that Hagoromo had more children than just Indra and Ashura so I'm not surprised if every distant land, he had 1 son or daughter
This would also make sense of Kimmimaru's Kaguya clan. While they seem to have inherited a form of Kaguya's Ash-Killing Bones, they don't seem to have inherited the great chakra or lifeforce indicitive of Asura nor any dojutsu from Indra.
@@Razeeq623 if we get technical here, Hagoromo has nothing. Indra has Uchiha and Ashura has Senju and Uzumaki (after the retcon of the Uzumaki). Hamura has the Hyuga and the "Otsutsuki" clan. During the warring state period there was another clan apparently linked to them named "Hagoromo".
I'm thinking the kaguya clan is the clan that hagaromos father was apart of maybe? Like maybe all of them would take her name at some point and then throughout the years bred with some of the 4 main branch families eventually creating their kekkei genkai 🤔 that was just a quick theory please don't roast me😩
Like hear me out, and tell me if I'm wrong... in hagaromos dad's time ( Idr his name) ita not like it was very peaceful..and his clan did hold a bit of authority if I'm not mistaken 🤔 so maybe after the world was flooded with Chakra and their clan was losing its standing and power fast... they took up kaguya as their surname in an attempt to intimidate some of the other clan into not attacking them but also try to hold onto what power and influence they had left... this is a clan bitter and stuck in the past where they held all their power and then over the years the power they held is forgotten even by them but all that's left is the bitterness and rage which translates to bloodlust in narutos modern area because no one remembers what they are so mad about ..not even them ...again don't roast me !!! Lol and I know this is an old video
An argument that would make more sense would be that he had a DAUGHTER as well considering how much of a point the series makes about his 2 sons, snd would also serve as an easier explanation to why she effectively vanished from history And it would be really funny if TenTen was her reincarnation
haha, that would be an interesting twist if Hagoromo had a daughter too, and if TenTen was her reincarnation. It would definitely add some comedic value to the story.
I like this idea. Hagoromo supposedly had two sons. Ginkaku and Kinkaku are also two brothers. Kind of makes sense? Might be a daughter rather than a son
Good point. It's always stated that he has two sons. But they never said he didn't have a daughter. So if the author come out and say Hagoromo has a daughter, it still doesn't conflict with original story.
The Father of Hagoromo and Hamura had the strongest Wood Release in the world. It tamed an Alien Goddess. When you think about it that way, Hagoromo is the second strongest person in Naruto history.
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about without telling me. No one had Chakra except Kaguya until Hagoromo and Hamura were born. They were the first two people ever born on Earth with chakra. You should probably delete this comment.
I always thought that kinkaku and Ginkaku were descendents from a group of Senjus that betrayed the clan and got chased away but Hagoromo having a third child is also a cool idea
Even then I think this theory would make sense for Kimmimaru's Kaguya clan. While they seem to have inherited a form of Kaguya's Ash-Killing Bones, they don't seem to have inherited the great chakra or lifeforce indicitive of Asura that even Kinkkaku and Ginkkaku had nor any dojutsu from Indra.
@@jameshollister8294 my headcanon is that Kinkaku and Ginkaku were the last descendants from that clan. The timeline fits as they died at 44 and were stated to have consumed Kurama's flesh way before Madara tamed him.
My head canon is the kinkaku and ginkaku are from the Fuma clan and the reason why is because the Fuma clan is related to the Uchiha clan which would explain how they are descendants of Hagoromo
One thing I have seen posited is that the Gold and Silver brothers are actually the children of another Otstsuki visiting the earth. Given how in the manga, their skin tone is depicted as exactly the same as Hagoromo's, implying they are both half breed Otstsuki. It would also explain the presence of their Horns.
That’d be really cool! Like what if Jigen tried in past years to see if having a child would make a vessel strong enough to hold a mark but it didn’t work, then eventually down the line you get those clowns
Hagoromo's third child is obviously Hikaku Uchiha, the true, ultimate, and absolute Secret Ninja. He's responsible for most if not all the lore in Naruto. Truly one of the characters of all time
I’m surprised Nic didn’t mention that Kinkaku and Ginkaku… you know… have the power to just eat part of a tailed beast and get its power forever. Also how the Tailed Beast Drug from Sakura’s light novel is partially made using the body of a random descendent of Hagoromo. Maybe the third child of Hagoromo’s unique genetic gift had something to do with high comparability with external phenomenon and Otsutsuki related things.
@@bellwood36313well yeah but his special thing was that his tissue received any foreign tissue with success, which does sort of sound a bit like being able to munch on the Fox’s guts but I feel that’s a stretch
@bellwood36313 from what I understand Orochimaru didn't create him, just found him and experimented on him. He chose the Uchiha name for himself after learning about and becoming fascinated with them, believing that his artificially implanted sharingan made him one of them.
You're forgetting someone, Nick. What about Kimimaru's clan? His clan, the Kaguya Clan tried to invade the Hidden Mist Village. Did Hagoromo have a fourth kid and they just so happen to carry Kaguya's Shikotsumyaku ability but it just came out as a recessive gene? So, did Hagoromo leave behind a fourth child in the Land of Mist that just happened to have one of his mom's abilities but it just skipped her sons' generation since recessive genes do exist. How do recessive genes even work in Naruto like recessive genes in terms of kekkai genkai?
In the Warring states Era there was a clan called the hogoromo who fought against the senju and uchiha. Idk if that has a connection to this theory but it could make sense that one of ashuras children kept the hagoromo clan while his other 2 children founded the senju and Uzimaki.
I haven't watch the video yet but I wanted to say I appreciate you. You literally put up videoes almost every other day on this channel for a year about Naruto. I kind of died out on all of the other Naruto videos but I love watching Nick for some reason. I just wanted to say thank you. I pretty much only watch you and Timthetatman at this point. And I'm 31 if it matters for any analytic data. Have a good day brother.
Totally down with Hagoromo having a 3rd child, but I think that the Land of Redaku must be an island just off the map in between the Land of Lightning and the Land of Water, because it's not just the Hidden Cloud that has a bunch of magic ninja tools passed down through the generations and a clan with a direct connection back to Hagoromo. The Hidden Mist has the Seven Ninja Swordman, who each wield a magic ninja tool we NEVER learn the origin of, and they had the Kaguya Clan (they died attacking Kirigakure, so they MUST have lived within the Land of Water somewhere.) If Hagoromo put down roots in Redaku, and it was situated somewhere between the Lands of Lightning and Water, that explains the origin of BOTH their similarities. The Hidden Mist just squandered it on in-fighting.
Tenten is the reincarnation of the third child, they just kinda only get taijutsu and using the treasured ninja tools, maybe even throw suigetsu in there too
I really like your theory-I think Hagoromo did “Genghis Khan” his way through that region. With that, I wonder if any light novels or databooks can shed more light in terms of the Cloud's clans. Like, which clans formed the Hidden Cloud? Do any Hidden Cloud clans have hidden jutsus? And which clan do the “A’s” belong to?
You said the Cloud is defensible because of its height. Ohnoki can fly. I wonder if, in his younger days, he ever thought about flying above detection and just dropping particle style jutsus to destroy the entire Cloud. He was 80 and fatigued when he blew away a decent portion of Madara’s pollen forest.
He may have thought about it...but that would be highly unfeasible. Here's why: 1. When Oonoki blew Madara's pollen forest, it was a rather short range usage of the Particle Style. Attacking the Hidden Cloud from above detection would require a much longer range usage, which is, in fact, A LOT harder to accomplish, as you have to exert your chackra into the cube you form. Even for a younger Oonoki, that would have been probably too much. 2. Since Mu died at quite a young age, Oonoki was the only one who could fly. This means it would have been a solo mission. As strong as Oonoki was, such a solo mission would have been too risky, especially since he would have had to launch the attack from a closer range in the end. 3. Oonoki was BY FAR the strongest in his village, and the main deterrence against any invasion. Going into such a mission would have left the Hidden Stone highly vulnerable. If he were to die in the mission, the whole Hidden Stone would have been doomed. Even if he were to succeed, though, the 2 villages arent's really close to each other. The 2 way journey would take quite some time...enough time for the Hidden Leaf or even the Hidden Sand to invade. Lastly, such an indiscriminate attack would have likely been seen as an act of terrorism by the other villages. As a Kage, Oonoki couldn't really afford that from a political point of view.
My headcanon is that Kinkaku and Ginkaku were the last descendants from that clan. The timeline fits as they died at 44 and were stated to have consumed Kurama's flesh way before Madara tamed him.
That whole thing is weird. The Hyuga came from Hamura, the Uchiha from Indra, the Senju and Uzumaki from Ashura. There was a clan during the warring state period named Hagoromo clan, theres the Kaguya clan and then you have Ginkaku and Kinkaku believed to be descendants of him.
Would also make sense why hidden cloud have magnet release, everyone in the sand village learned it from the one tails but how would the cloud have learned it. Makes sense that they can use a technique that directly comes from the splitting of hogoromos chakra. I mean litterly the only people who can use mag release is people who learned it from one tails, except toroi. I find that a little weird. Mabye more people from cloud can use it too. Also makes sense that jiga could use a form of mag release and he’s from the land of veggies. Which is most likely in or near the land of lightning, givin it’s in the high mountain ranges.
The craziest thing is that some how males seem to inherit the power. We just can’t glance over the fact that it seems the Tenji has some very special swimmers.
I think when Hagoromo arrived there, they're probably more people like Mabui, Samui and Karui. I didn't blame Hagoromo for having at least 1 child there.
Honestly really hard to be Hidden when people realize that Hashirama made the forest surrounding Konoha. How do you hide when someone did THAT with the rarest Jutsu in the world?
Everyone's talking about hagaromo's third child, but no one's talking about his true father... The Sage of 6 bowls: Teiyuchi (idk how to spell it, probably got it wrong lol.)
We know that Hagoromo had two sons: Ashura and Indra. However, it’s possible Hagoromo has possible daughters. Which explains the Hagoromo Clan, Kaguya Clan, and Jugo’s Clan being connected to Otsutsuki Bloodline Kekkai Genkai and Senjustu!
We saw from the scene at hagoromo's death bed, Ashura had multiple children. So obviously, the main family, probably from his eldest son, founded the Senju and the others lead to Kaguya clan, Kinkaku and Ginkaku and of course another lead to the birth of the Uzumaki clan. Indra's children definitely did not branch out so Ashura would have to have been the ancestor of everyone in the modern day who is linked to Kaguya or Hagoromo except the Uchiha clan.
Before the end of the war arc and the reveal of hamura, there was the theory that hagoromo was an uzumaki or the lineage that produced them. While theres really nothing left to base that on, hagoromo having a 3rd child later who's line could evolve into the uzumakis is still a fun idea
I mean. Consider that it's been at roughly 1000 years between Hagoromo's time and Naruto's, there's bound to be quite a few offshoot clans from the Senju and Uchiha, like the Uzumaki. There's even the whole Kaguya clan, which is clearly no longer affiliated with either of the clans from Konoha but are descended from them, as they had to have inherited shikotsumyaku from one of Kaguya's children
Honestly, I like the idea that the Hidden Cloud just amassed strength on their own through innovation. Noticing that only fairer skinned characters seem to be related to the Otsusuki bloodline in general, I think its unlikely that darker skinned characters share a blood connection. They could be simply amazing on their own like Onoki and Mu of the Hidden Rock with a knack for generating more prodigies than average, creating all the innovation and talented shinobi we see. Also, Samui? Karui? Nah bro Mabui is the way to go.
Or the land they reside in changed their skin tone to account for increased sunlight and therefore various forms of radiation one would have to deal with at that altitude over the course of thousands of years. You know like real life. While living in cloudy climates often results in fairer skin the Cloud as we know it sits above the clouds and is always shown as quite sunny. None of this conflicts with the theory stated in the video
I mean Hagaromo and thus his children lived literally THOUSANDS of years ago. Thats simply not how genetics work either in naruto or the real world. This is why a lot of white people can have a black ancestor and not be black. Do you understand?
@@TheLastSane1 I understand completely. It can take as little as 3 generations. However, this is fiction, and narratively speaking most authors will typically have descendants that have traits of their ancestors (Indra w/Sharigan and Susanoo for Uchiha, Ashura with Rasengan/Wood Buddha for Uzumaki/Senju), so that the audience can make easy connections. If that's not the case, they will often explain why the descendants look different (breeding, environmental mutations, etc). Neither of these are present in Naruto in regards to a canon link between the hidden cloud and Hagoromo. I was just expressing my preference for them not being related to Hagoromo.
Yeah, that would make more sense. Plus, there is like a thousand years between Naruto Shippuden's timeline and Hagoromo's children's time. A lot can happen in that time. I don't think Indra and Asura just only had like three clans come from them. Maybe those were just the three clans that didn't go exist. I think there was also a clan called the Hagoromo Clan that faced off against Hashirama or Madara, right?
Where else could the Kaguya and Hagoromo Clans come from? The Senju and Uzumaki came from Asura, and the Uchiha came from Indra. Unless Kaguya had a secret child we don't know about?
My theory has always been that Hagoromo had four children, two sons being Indra and Ashura who are the progenitors of the Uchiha Clan and the Senju and Uzumaki Clan respectively. And the two daughters being the progenitor of the Kaguya Clan and Hagoromo Clan respectively, with the Hagoromo Clan being the clan that Kinkaku and Ginkaku stems from, and of course Kimimaro stemming from the Kaguya Clan. Just a personal theory and I love that someone that you have a similar one❤
Jiraiya also spread ninshu all over the Naruto world. But we all know he was also trying to spread His ninshu all over the Naruto world. 😂 So Hagoromo definitely could have had a secret family. Just like Minato didn't want anyone knowing Naruto was his son so he gave him Kushina's last name instead.
What if the branch that went to the cloud village was surviving members of the Uzumaki which is prolly why the brothers could take the 9 tls chakra and somewhat control it I think I saw some cloud ninja with red hair like Uzumaki
My theory why hagoromo had more children is that hes trying to spread ninsho throughout the world isnt it better to leave a couple kids here and there so when they grow up they can do the same because by them having children it will jave the same effect as him spreading ninshu and as a man he can have many children in 1 year of traveling
Certainly it isn't absurd to think he had a third child, who of course was just not that absurdly special or noteworthy. They were not relevant to the 4th war in any way so he never thought to mention them, They had no sibling swear to reincarnate for a mutli-generational grudge that inspired them to reincarnate themselves to stop them, so they just moved on when they died. Of course you are also not limited to passing on your powers only to one of your children. We literally see Itachi and Sasuke have Sharingan, both got their fathers ocular abilities. So this third child still could have gotten some mix of body and chakra powers as well as maybe his knack for science and inventing tools, but again never had a special reason to do anything majorly noteworhty with it especially in the super peaceful land they were born in.
He definitely had other children, the Kaguya clan 100% descended from Hogoromo or Homura, I suppose that they could be a Senju equivalent to the Hyuga but its implied that they descended from Hogoromo yet there are no Uzumaki's, Senju's or Uchiha walking around, using their spines as swords and figer tips as bullets, so an extra 1 or 2 or 150 bastard children were made.
I like the theory, but instead of inheriting his “ability to use treasured tools,” I’d just say his chakra capacity since the Raikage had ridiculous chakra levels
12:41 if i can take a moment to be “ that guy”… The correct way to pronounce his name in english is either CHangus or Jangus (same “J” sound as Judo or Junky). Both are considered correct by scholars.
If Hagoromo had a charkra disease that would take away his ability to use chakra and kill him. And Naruto had the same disease. Can't they just sneeze on the Otsutsuki?
Random thing I just thought of. When a non-Uchiha receives a sharingan, they can't deactivate it. Sooooo, if an Uchiha died with their Sharingan deactivated, would no one be able to turn it on? Imagine getting an eye from an Uchiha, but it's just a normal eye.
Hei mate! I don't know if you already talked about this subject, but what is your opinion about the red chilli pill that Choji used in the OG Naruto against the sound 4? The pill is supposed to make the user 100 times stronger, like the 8th gate. Do you think that Naruto or Someone more powerful than og Choji would get the same power up?
It’s super clear that he had TWO sons…. But a daughter… we can work with that…
“And considering what the women from the hidden cloud look like, I don’t blame him” 😂😂😂
Yeah, I always believed that Hagoromo had more children than just Indra and Ashura so I'm not surprised if every distant land, he had 1 son or daughter
This would also make sense of Kimmimaru's Kaguya clan. While they seem to have inherited a form of Kaguya's Ash-Killing Bones, they don't seem to have inherited the great chakra or lifeforce indicitive of Asura nor any dojutsu from Indra.
I also made that connection!
*I always felt like that should have been another descendant clan of Hamura's. He only has the Hyuga, whereas Hagoromo has the Uchiha & Senju.*
@@Razeeq623 if we get technical here, Hagoromo has nothing. Indra has Uchiha and Ashura has Senju and Uzumaki (after the retcon of the Uzumaki). Hamura has the Hyuga and the "Otsutsuki" clan. During the warring state period there was another clan apparently linked to them named "Hagoromo".
I'm thinking the kaguya clan is the clan that hagaromos father was apart of maybe? Like maybe all of them would take her name at some point and then throughout the years bred with some of the 4 main branch families eventually creating their kekkei genkai 🤔 that was just a quick theory please don't roast me😩
Like hear me out, and tell me if I'm wrong... in hagaromos dad's time ( Idr his name) ita not like it was very peaceful..and his clan did hold a bit of authority if I'm not mistaken 🤔 so maybe after the world was flooded with Chakra and their clan was losing its standing and power fast... they took up kaguya as their surname in an attempt to intimidate some of the other clan into not attacking them but also try to hold onto what power and influence they had left... this is a clan bitter and stuck in the past where they held all their power and then over the years the power they held is forgotten even by them but all that's left is the bitterness and rage which translates to bloodlust in narutos modern area because no one remembers what they are so mad about ..not even them ...again don't roast me !!! Lol and I know this is an old video
Hagoromo went to the Hidden Cloud and met a black woman and said one more wouldn’t hurt 😭😭
I mean... yeah
An argument that would make more sense would be that he had a DAUGHTER as well considering how much of a point the series makes about his 2 sons, snd would also serve as an easier explanation to why she effectively vanished from history
And it would be really funny if TenTen was her reincarnation
😂😅😢
Bruh 😂
haha, that would be an interesting twist if Hagoromo had a daughter too, and if TenTen was her reincarnation. It would definitely add some comedic value to the story.
Finally a connection between the Sage of Six Paths and the Sage of Six Seconds of Screentime!
haha, that's a clever connection, The Sage of Six Paths and the Sage of Six Seconds of Screentime would make quite the team.@@alexb6234
I like this idea. Hagoromo supposedly had two sons. Ginkaku and Kinkaku are also two brothers. Kind of makes sense? Might be a daughter rather than a son
Good point. It's always stated that he has two sons. But they never said he didn't have a daughter. So if the author come out and say Hagoromo has a daughter, it still doesn't conflict with original story.
Has to be boy girls suck sexist life forever 🔥🔥🔥🔥😤🫰
Her name was kagyua named after his mom
His daughter's name is Elsa. When discussing the feuding of Indra and Asura, she told them to "let it go"
@@zaphappy2656 thats funny as shit
The Father of Hagoromo and Hamura had the strongest Wood Release in the world. It tamed an Alien Goddess. When you think about it that way, Hagoromo is the second strongest person in Naruto history.
😂😂😂
Lol
@Harisfd1 Hagoromo's daddy's wood release 🤣
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about without telling me.
No one had Chakra except Kaguya until Hagoromo and Hamura were born. They were the first two people ever born on Earth with chakra.
You should probably delete this comment.
@@dalt91their talking ab his dick
The way I started laughing when you said, "...I can't blame him." 10/10 ending & 10/10 theory. Keep up the good work!
You know what they say.. Once you go black you never go back
I always thought that kinkaku and Ginkaku were descendents from a group of Senjus that betrayed the clan and got chased away but Hagoromo having a third child is also a cool idea
i thought that maybe they were just another off shoot from the senju like the uzumaki but weaker
Even then I think this theory would make sense for Kimmimaru's Kaguya clan. While they seem to have inherited a form of Kaguya's Ash-Killing Bones, they don't seem to have inherited the great chakra or lifeforce indicitive of Asura that even Kinkkaku and Ginkkaku had nor any dojutsu from Indra.
Hagromo clan where they where from
@@jameshollister8294 my headcanon is that Kinkaku and Ginkaku were the last descendants from that clan. The timeline fits as they died at 44 and were stated to have consumed Kurama's flesh way before Madara tamed him.
My head canon is the kinkaku and ginkaku are from the Fuma clan and the reason why is because the Fuma clan is related to the Uchiha clan which would explain how they are descendants of Hagoromo
Those hidden cloud women jokes at the end were hilariously true and unexpected Lol
Haguromo was really out here showing Hidden Cloud women all Six Paths
One thing I have seen posited is that the Gold and Silver brothers are actually the children of another Otstsuki visiting the earth. Given how in the manga, their skin tone is depicted as exactly the same as Hagoromo's, implying they are both half breed Otstsuki. It would also explain the presence of their Horns.
That’d be really cool! Like what if Jigen tried in past years to see if having a child would make a vessel strong enough to hold a mark but it didn’t work, then eventually down the line you get those clowns
Hamura was around as well hagoromos brother who the hyuga are descended from
@@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 Jigen was a monk during that time and he ain't Otsutsuki.
Hagoromo's third child is obviously Hikaku Uchiha, the true, ultimate, and absolute Secret Ninja. He's responsible for most if not all the lore in Naruto. Truly one of the characters of all time
I can't believe y'all sleeping on Mary Suechiha like this.
Dygoknight in disguise 😅
@t3k-nika1Kevin uchiha 😅😅😅😅 Man I'm weak😂
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Wrong. It's Shisui Uchiha. Truly the Naruto of all time
I’m surprised Nic didn’t mention that Kinkaku and Ginkaku… you know… have the power to just eat part of a tailed beast and get its power forever. Also how the Tailed Beast Drug from Sakura’s light novel is partially made using the body of a random descendent of Hagoromo.
Maybe the third child of Hagoromo’s unique genetic gift had something to do with high comparability with external phenomenon and Otsutsuki related things.
This could even tie to Shin being a distant descendant of Hagoromo which could explain his mutation
@@lydiamourningstar2028shin Uchiha was Orochimaru failed attempts to clone a Uchiha.
@@bellwood36313well yeah but his special thing was that his tissue received any foreign tissue with success, which does sort of sound a bit like being able to munch on the Fox’s guts but I feel that’s a stretch
@bellwood36313 from what I understand Orochimaru didn't create him, just found him and experimented on him. He chose the Uchiha name for himself after learning about and becoming fascinated with them, believing that his artificially implanted sharingan made him one of them.
@@lydiamourningstar2028 so Orochimaru's lab rat gotcha
Nick: this is how Hagoromo layed his roots
Me: he used the sage art doggy style jutsu
You're forgetting someone, Nick. What about Kimimaru's clan? His clan, the Kaguya Clan tried to invade the Hidden Mist Village. Did Hagoromo have a fourth kid and they just so happen to carry Kaguya's Shikotsumyaku ability but it just came out as a recessive gene? So, did Hagoromo leave behind a fourth child in the Land of Mist that just happened to have one of his mom's abilities but it just skipped her sons' generation since recessive genes do exist.
How do recessive genes even work in Naruto like recessive genes in terms of kekkai genkai?
1000 yards of clans have so it's spread out
Not Nick constantly say the land of Rudaku 😂
Hagoromo did love that chocolate😂
I'm not surprised if he made it with someone as beautiful as Mabui
In the Warring states Era there was a clan called the hogoromo who fought against the senju and uchiha. Idk if that has a connection to this theory but it could make sense that one of ashuras children kept the hagoromo clan while his other 2 children founded the senju and Uzimaki.
I haven't watch the video yet but I wanted to say I appreciate you. You literally put up videoes almost every other day on this channel for a year about Naruto. I kind of died out on all of the other Naruto videos but I love watching Nick for some reason. I just wanted to say thank you. I pretty much only watch you and Timthetatman at this point. And I'm 31 if it matters for any analytic data. Have a good day brother.
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Bro I swear NCHammer 23 and Dygoknight always post at the same time🤔
Totally down with Hagoromo having a 3rd child, but I think that the Land of Redaku must be an island just off the map in between the Land of Lightning and the Land of Water, because it's not just the Hidden Cloud that has a bunch of magic ninja tools passed down through the generations and a clan with a direct connection back to Hagoromo. The Hidden Mist has the Seven Ninja Swordman, who each wield a magic ninja tool we NEVER learn the origin of, and they had the Kaguya Clan (they died attacking Kirigakure, so they MUST have lived within the Land of Water somewhere.)
If Hagoromo put down roots in Redaku, and it was situated somewhere between the Lands of Lightning and Water, that explains the origin of BOTH their similarities. The Hidden Mist just squandered it on in-fighting.
And that’s why I want a Warring states Naruto spin-off, that would go so crazy on top of that so many questions could be answered through it
Tenten is the reincarnation of the third child, they just kinda only get taijutsu and using the treasured ninja tools, maybe even throw suigetsu in there too
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To compare tenten and suigetsu smh Lol its a sad day for him
@@7thswordsmenofthemist oh don't get me wrong suigetsu is my favorite Naruto character
Hagaromo "Chad" Otsutsuki
I really like your theory-I think Hagoromo did “Genghis Khan” his way through that region. With that, I wonder if any light novels or databooks can shed more light in terms of the Cloud's clans. Like, which clans formed the Hidden Cloud? Do any Hidden Cloud clans have hidden jutsus? And which clan do the “A’s” belong to?
You said the Cloud is defensible because of its height.
Ohnoki can fly.
I wonder if, in his younger days, he ever thought about flying above detection and just dropping particle style jutsus to destroy the entire Cloud.
He was 80 and fatigued when he blew away a decent portion of Madara’s pollen forest.
He may have thought about it...but that would be highly unfeasible. Here's why:
1. When Oonoki blew Madara's pollen forest, it was a rather short range usage of the Particle Style. Attacking the Hidden Cloud from above detection would require a much longer range usage, which is, in fact, A LOT harder to accomplish, as you have to exert your chackra into the cube you form. Even for a younger Oonoki, that would have been probably too much.
2. Since Mu died at quite a young age, Oonoki was the only one who could fly. This means it would have been a solo mission. As strong as Oonoki was, such a solo mission would have been too risky, especially since he would have had to launch the attack from a closer range in the end.
3. Oonoki was BY FAR the strongest in his village, and the main deterrence against any invasion. Going into such a mission would have left the Hidden Stone highly vulnerable. If he were to die in the mission, the whole Hidden Stone would have been doomed. Even if he were to succeed, though, the 2 villages arent's really close to each other. The 2 way journey would take quite some time...enough time for the Hidden Leaf or even the Hidden Sand to invade.
Lastly, such an indiscriminate attack would have likely been seen as an act of terrorism by the other villages. As a Kage, Oonoki couldn't really afford that from a political point of view.
My headcanon is that Kinkaku and Ginkaku were the last descendants from that clan. The timeline fits as they died at 44 and were stated to have consumed Kurama's flesh way before Madara tamed him.
That whole thing is weird. The Hyuga came from Hamura, the Uchiha from Indra, the Senju and Uzumaki from Ashura. There was a clan during the warring state period named Hagoromo clan, theres the Kaguya clan and then you have Ginkaku and Kinkaku believed to be descendants of him.
Would also make sense why hidden cloud have magnet release, everyone in the sand village learned it from the one tails but how would the cloud have learned it. Makes sense that they can use a technique that directly comes from the splitting of hogoromos chakra. I mean litterly the only people who can use mag release is people who learned it from one tails, except toroi. I find that a little weird. Mabye more people from cloud can use it too. Also makes sense that jiga could use a form of mag release and he’s from the land of veggies. Which is most likely in or near the land of lightning, givin it’s in the high mountain ranges.
Hagoromo really be sleepin around
The craziest thing is that some how males seem to inherit the power. We just can’t glance over the fact that it seems the Tenji has some very special swimmers.
Let's be honest, if Mabui, Samui and Karui are even close to the norm, I'd rather live in Cloud than anywhere else.
I think when Hagoromo arrived there, they're probably more people like Mabui, Samui and Karui. I didn't blame Hagoromo for having at least 1 child there.
Ngl I've always assumed It was Black Zetsu who made The Chinoke,Kaguya Clan, and Gold Silver Bros
Why are they called hidden villages when none of them are hidden?
Tbh the hidden leaf is literally the only none hidden village
Honestly really hard to be Hidden when people realize that Hashirama made the forest surrounding Konoha. How do you hide when someone did THAT with the rarest Jutsu in the world?
The Hidden Mist is hidden by Mist that you need to navigate through
because ninja
@@lucen3dtechnically the cloud is on a moving turtle i believe and the sand is surrounded by a lot of sand so eh?
Kaguya also had a third child. Zetsu.
Everyone's talking about hagaromo's third child, but no one's talking about his true father... The Sage of 6 bowls: Teiyuchi (idk how to spell it, probably got it wrong lol.)
you were close. it's Teuchi
@@Xavier-d4h ah, thank u
Teuchi Ootsuki
@@Holebaas np man. you were really close tho. lol
Literally just checked your channel not expecting a drop cuz I realized you just posted. Music to my ears lol
So if there was a third child who wielded the ninja tools, is TenTen also a reincarnation? 😂
We know that Hagoromo had two sons: Ashura and Indra. However, it’s possible Hagoromo has possible daughters. Which explains the Hagoromo Clan, Kaguya Clan, and Jugo’s Clan being connected to Otsutsuki Bloodline Kekkai Genkai and Senjustu!
He wants to put his root into UA-cam...
he had sex with a dark skin and that’s why all the black people in naruto come from the hidden cloud.
only nick could think this stuff up
If even the God of Naruto, the sage of the six paths, couldn't resist the baddies of the cloud what chance does someone like Choji have 😂
Bro cooks more than kishimoto
Hagoromo's primary nature element was Lightning, which makes perfect sense ⚡️
We saw from the scene at hagoromo's death bed, Ashura had multiple children. So obviously, the main family, probably from his eldest son, founded the Senju and the others lead to Kaguya clan, Kinkaku and Ginkaku and of course another lead to the birth of the Uzumaki clan. Indra's children definitely did not branch out so Ashura would have to have been the ancestor of everyone in the modern day who is linked to Kaguya or Hagoromo except the Uchiha clan.
Don't forget the hyuga. They come from Hamura
Like your but the blood dragon eye came the cloud area as well which could be from either brother.
Damn Hagoromo was an international gigolo and was laying PIPE
Before the end of the war arc and the reveal of hamura, there was the theory that hagoromo was an uzumaki or the lineage that produced them. While theres really nothing left to base that on, hagoromo having a 3rd child later who's line could evolve into the uzumakis is still a fun idea
HE HAD A DAUGHTER AND THATS WHY SHE WASNT EVER MENTIONED BEFORE BECAUSE HISTORY IS NOT HERSTORY
I'm saying history often forgets women
I mean.
Consider that it's been at roughly 1000 years between Hagoromo's time and Naruto's, there's bound to be quite a few offshoot clans from the Senju and Uchiha, like the Uzumaki.
There's even the whole Kaguya clan, which is clearly no longer affiliated with either of the clans from Konoha but are descended from them, as they had to have inherited shikotsumyaku from one of Kaguya's children
Naruto Black History facts gotta love it
We all know it went down in the Clouds.
Honestly, I like the idea that the Hidden Cloud just amassed strength on their own through innovation. Noticing that only fairer skinned characters seem to be related to the Otsusuki bloodline in general, I think its unlikely that darker skinned characters share a blood connection. They could be simply amazing on their own like Onoki and Mu of the Hidden Rock with a knack for generating more prodigies than average, creating all the innovation and talented shinobi we see.
Also, Samui? Karui? Nah bro Mabui is the way to go.
Or the land they reside in changed their skin tone to account for increased sunlight and therefore various forms of radiation one would have to deal with at that altitude over the course of thousands of years. You know like real life. While living in cloudy climates often results in fairer skin the Cloud as we know it sits above the clouds and is always shown as quite sunny. None of this conflicts with the theory stated in the video
@@SecretMarsupialthat doesn't makes sense by the hidden sand being More hotter
@@SecretMarsupialhidden villages are only like 80 years old
I mean Hagaromo and thus his children lived literally THOUSANDS of years ago. Thats simply not how genetics work either in naruto or the real world. This is why a lot of white people can have a black ancestor and not be black. Do you understand?
@@TheLastSane1 I understand completely. It can take as little as 3 generations. However, this is fiction, and narratively speaking most authors will typically have descendants that have traits of their ancestors (Indra w/Sharigan and Susanoo for Uchiha, Ashura with Rasengan/Wood Buddha for Uzumaki/Senju), so that the audience can make easy connections. If that's not the case, they will often explain why the descendants look different (breeding, environmental mutations, etc). Neither of these are present in Naruto in regards to a canon link between the hidden cloud and Hagoromo.
I was just expressing my preference for them not being related to Hagoromo.
Hagoromo's third child is the ancestor of Ginkaku and Kinkaku.
First LGBT shinobi Twinkaku
@@smelly1060 no, not naruto, please.
@@DingDongBingBong-il2ve didn’t Naruto and Sasuke kiss and hold hands?
Another option is that Indra could have had many children as well who went their own ways and created their own clan.
Yeah, that would make more sense. Plus, there is like a thousand years between Naruto Shippuden's timeline and Hagoromo's children's time. A lot can happen in that time. I don't think Indra and Asura just only had like three clans come from them. Maybe those were just the three clans that didn't go exist. I think there was also a clan called the Hagoromo Clan that faced off against Hashirama or Madara, right?
Where else could the Kaguya and Hagoromo Clans come from? The Senju and Uzumaki came from Asura, and the Uchiha came from Indra. Unless Kaguya had a secret child we don't know about?
Kaguya clan use same color face as indra
19:21 ong. That sums everything up 🍷🗿
My theory has always been that Hagoromo had four children, two sons being Indra and Ashura who are the progenitors of the Uchiha Clan and the Senju and Uzumaki Clan respectively. And the two daughters being the progenitor of the Kaguya Clan and Hagoromo Clan respectively, with the Hagoromo Clan being the clan that Kinkaku and Ginkaku stems from, and of course Kimimaro stemming from the Kaguya Clan. Just a personal theory and I love that someone that you have a similar one❤
Hagoromos third child is actually Nick, he just used his ninja god powers to get out of Narutoverse into our world. Thats why he knows so much. 🤔
My guess is Hagoromo had a DAUGHTER in the Hidden Cloud
6:07 Kaguya is literally stated to be the strongest in Shippuden, tf you on?
Jiraiya also spread ninshu all over the Naruto world. But we all know he was also trying to spread His ninshu all over the Naruto world. 😂 So Hagoromo definitely could have had a secret family. Just like Minato didn't want anyone knowing Naruto was his son so he gave him Kushina's last name instead.
What if the branch that went to the cloud village was surviving members of the Uzumaki which is prolly why the brothers could take the 9 tls chakra and somewhat control it I think I saw some cloud ninja with red hair like Uzumaki
I emailed you about this like last week I literally feel so special lololololololol
My theory why hagoromo had more children is that hes trying to spread ninsho throughout the world isnt it better to leave a couple kids here and there so when they grow up they can do the same because by them having children it will jave the same effect as him spreading ninshu and as a man he can have many children in 1 year of traveling
Certainly it isn't absurd to think he had a third child, who of course was just not that absurdly special or noteworthy. They were not relevant to the 4th war in any way so he never thought to mention them, They had no sibling swear to reincarnate for a mutli-generational grudge that inspired them to reincarnate themselves to stop them, so they just moved on when they died. Of course you are also not limited to passing on your powers only to one of your children. We literally see Itachi and Sasuke have Sharingan, both got their fathers ocular abilities. So this third child still could have gotten some mix of body and chakra powers as well as maybe his knack for science and inventing tools, but again never had a special reason to do anything majorly noteworhty with it especially in the super peaceful land they were born in.
This ideia is really cool, but not Nick thirsting over Hidden Cloud women 😂
Just skipped over the hyuga being descended of hamura
He definitely had other children, the Kaguya clan 100% descended from Hogoromo or Homura, I suppose that they could be a Senju equivalent to the Hyuga but its implied that they descended from Hogoromo yet there are no Uzumaki's, Senju's or Uchiha walking around, using their spines as swords and figer tips as bullets, so an extra 1 or 2 or 150 bastard children were made.
goat talk
Remember when we were introduced to the sage he was a master with lighting
someones sky daddy left for his sky milk lmao
I like the theory, but instead of inheriting his “ability to use treasured tools,” I’d just say his chakra capacity since the Raikage had ridiculous chakra levels
12:41 if i can take a moment to be “ that guy”…
The correct way to pronounce his name in english is either CHangus or Jangus (same “J” sound as Judo or Junky). Both are considered correct by scholars.
Keep up the awesome work and videos Nick
Karui’s ancestors over here teaching Hagoromo Booty no Jutsu.
Awesome as always thanks
Dude I almost spit out my drink at that last line🤣🤣
hol up....hagoromo had a sidechick?!?
Don't forget that the ketsuryugan dojutsu original was from the hidden cloud as well, so there might have been more than one child there.
this is ten ten's origin story obvs
At the beginning of the video I thought you were crazy, by the halfway point I was already convinced
Hagoromo had many children. We only know about his 2 eldest. But he had a daughter after them and a few other children, with lots of grandkids.
Watching this during school
Thicc hidden cloud kunoichi 😂
lmao. indeed, that's most likely true, Kishimoto just decided not to delve into that
If Hagoromo had a charkra disease that would take away his ability to use chakra and kill him. And Naruto had the same disease. Can't they just sneeze on the Otsutsuki?
I thiught the most important ones were hidden leaf and hidden sand
Hagoromo saw the YAMS and decided to spread Ninshu among other things...😂
For some reason adding ninja onto normal things is really funny. Ninja weapons of mass destruction. Also good video
I love stories in the Naruto universe to be set in the diffrent hidden villages so we would get to see more of them 😁
Random thing I just thought of. When a non-Uchiha receives a sharingan, they can't deactivate it. Sooooo, if an Uchiha died with their Sharingan deactivated, would no one be able to turn it on? Imagine getting an eye from an Uchiha, but it's just a normal eye.
You have to call him ninja sky daddy. 😂
Hei mate! I don't know if you already talked about this subject, but what is your opinion about the red chilli pill that Choji used in the OG Naruto against the sound 4? The pill is supposed to make the user 100 times stronger, like the 8th gate. Do you think that Naruto or Someone more powerful than og Choji would get the same power up?
We need a hagaromo story
Finally got to watch this.... snapped a axle on my tractor today.......
Bro just disrespected Gaara's entire existence 😂
Hidden Sand should've really mined oil 😂😂😂😂
isn't weird that the sage of SIX paths created only 5 tools? is it possible there is a lost 6th tool?