99% of People Don't Know This Simple Woodworking Term! (Lumber Terminology)
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99% of People Don't Know This Woodworking Term! (Lumber Terminology)
Can you name all the parts of a simple wooden board? Most people think they can...but quickly overlook some things!
There are 26 distinct surfaces on a rectangular wooden board.
It's really important to learn what to accurately call the parts of a wooden board so you can communicate your intentions quickly to other tradespeople. (I've seen newcomers constantly struggle with this.)
The flat, wider surfaces on a rectangular board are called FACES.
The flat, longer narrow surfaces are called EDGES.
The flat, shorter narrow surfaces are called ENDS.
But, the sharp intersections of two flat parts are called ARRISES.
You find arrises in all sorts of architecture. They can even be curved, like in arches.
The sharp intersections of 3 flat parts are simply called CORNERS.
But, don't confuse the edge of the board with the actual arris. And don't confuse the arris with a corner!
Keep your woodworking board terminology clean, and you'll always be able to communicate what you intend to do with a board to other tradespeople.
Thanks!
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Fancy Jargon words. Many people will say "what does it matter?" The matter is the difference between ordinary work, and the ability to turn out extra-ordinarily High Quality work. In ANY Field of human endeavor.
Because those high-falootin' jargon words are actually labels for concepts or techniques. Learned skills.
I come from 44 years in the field of Computer Programming. And this idea of learning / using the precisely right words IS Critical.
This is exactly right, Bradford! It can save so much time and frustration when you can go straight to the source of the word. Like you said-the concept is the reason. 👍
@@TheHonestCarpenter Thank you for the compliment. I will share one carpenter story, I use to train my Computer Programmers. "Russo's Leigh Eshelman Theory".
When I was in elementary school, dad hired this old man to custom build a project for his business. Old Mr. Eshelman showed up with only an old wooden tool box, he made, himself. Filled with ONLY a choice few HAND Tools. NO Power tools at all.
He was incredibly skilled at the use of those simple hand tools. It was fascinating to watch him work.
Decades later, I chanced to glance around my basement (hobby) "workshop". To proudly view the power tools I had accumulated. Both big and small. Table saw, drill press, router, sander, jig and circular saws, etc., etc.
Suddenly, I realized, with great embarrasment -- that old man did better work with his few hand tools -- than I could with my whole basement full of power tools !
Since then, I teach my employees and apprentices my "Leigh Eshelman Theory". Which I incorporated into my Programming business. ... Simple tools, wielded with greater skill ... Wins ... against fancy power tools, operated with less human skill.
@@bradfordrusso7480fellow software engineer here and couldn't agree more. Understanding the Details and nuance and having good practices are necessary for high quality work.
@@twothirdsanexplosive I will share one example of how we developed and used very precise jargon terms.
I started my custom software business in 1979. At the birth of the micro computer revolution. Machines were primitive. With tiny specs and capacities -- 4 MHz clock speed, 64 - 128 K RAM, NO Hard Drive. They only did one basic thing -- business data processing (book-keeping, inventory, etc.).
A common task was to read serially down a large file. One record at a time. To locate any records which matched a specified criteria. An arduous task for slow, primitive CPU's.
Well, I was an early fan of Nikola Tesla. (Before Anyone else knew about him.) When Thomas Edison died, scientists around the world wrote eulogies. Tesla wrote a left-handed compliment for his bitter enemy. ... "If Mr. Edison was given the task of finding a needle in a haystack ... he would set out with the dilligence of a bee. To carefully examine each straw, one at a time." (This was mocking Edison's savage ignorance of math and science.)
So, to perpetuate the insult, I coined a jargon term: "Haystack Method". I taught my programmers the origin, meaning, and usage of this concept / term. To slowly, painstakingly read through every record, serially -- counting or copying any matches. (Note that our term "serial" was carefully distinct from the pre-defined term "sequential", as in Sequential vs. Random Access files. Each had its own Precise meaning and application.)
The prgrammers were trained, one time. Then, all I had to do was say: "Search this inventory file by the 'Haystack method'. For any records low in stock. So we can re-order more." Very quick, simple, but precise work instructions. It worked like a charm. NO confusion, slip-ups, or long winded explanation for each new client / project.
They also need to be the correct jargon. He messed it up here with ariss
I'm 68, and just learned the correct terms. Thanks!!
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I learned something new today, thanks Ethan
Thanks for watching, David!
Using the correct terminology is paramount for success in every activity that involves two people communicating with each other.
I never knew a board had so many names. Not being a carpenter, it's just a board to me. Very educational video.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, Ethan! Always clear and concise information from your channel!
Thanks, Trapper!
Yup, decades of woodworking and construction and this is the first I've heard the term arris/arrises. Thanks Ethan, good video, as always!
Thank you, Ted! Good to hear from you, buddy. 🙂
Great tutorial. Thank you!
Thanks went through 67 years without hearing these, in construction, engineering, woodworking. I have always been understood, and have made myself understood. I'll see if I can die not hearing them again.
Good revision for me.
Thanks Ethan
Thanks ethan finally terms that are universal across the English language
You can't take the first sentence of the Wikipedia page for the term 'surface', ("A surface, as the term is most generally used, is the outermost or uppermost layer of a physical object or space."), and pluck it out of context from the rest of the entry to suit your definition, while ignoring the entirety of the remaining content.
Yes, the surface is, at the most basic perceptual level, representative of what you can see of an object. However, once you start delving further into identifying specific components of an object, that loose definition no longer applies. As you get more specific, so too does the definition. You can't delve into the details and define more specific terms for certain features and then try to cordon off one term to be more loosely defined with a definition that is wholly inappropriate for the specific context.
A rectangular wooden board does not have 26 surfaces. It has six. The vertices and edges (not the long, narrow surface that you refer to, but an actual geometric, polygonal edge) are not surfaces. Surfaces are generalizations of a plane (curved or otherwise) and a rectangular wooden board has six planes.
You can say that a rectangular wooden board has 26 distinct features, but to claim that it has 26 surfaces is categorically false.
I never knew any of this. Great subject! 👍👍👍
Thanks for the lesson, Ethan. I was once one of the aforementioned 99 percent but thanks to you I no longer am. It may take me awhile to get it all right but you explained it well! 😊😊😊
I thought knowing face and end was all I needed. Thank you for humbling me in the best possible way. I feel smarter now. Thanks again
That's cool, never heard of arrises before. :)
Thanks for this information!
A new term to me that I did not know existed in wood working.
Thank you Mr. Ethan
Thanks, Timothy! 🙂
This is amazing knowledge! This channel definitely stays at my Top playlist. Thank for all you are giving away to educate!
Awesome! Thank you for watching, slaphappy! 😄
I learned something new today! Thank you!❤❤❤
What a cool word for an “edge”. It is a technical word that means something. It is more descriptive than an edge. Will tell my son and pester my dad and nephews. Somewhere Mr. Strunk and Mr. White are smiling.
Loved this! Thank you 😊
This is absolutely fascinating😮
Great information! Learning so much from you!😊
Good stuff. I remember where I was when a fellow woodworker introduced me to arrises in around 1990. It’s so helpful to possess a common knowledge of precise terminology in any technical field.
Agreed, brad!
🎶 The more you know 🎶 🤓 Thank you so much for this Ethan!
Thanks Ethan, that's interesting and useful. For those of us who work solo it's not game-changing but, for those who work with others.... it's huge. Having a precise 'common language' saves errors, time and $$
😮 absolutely love these videos
Gawd dang! I wish you d been my shop teacher! You re really good at this.
Never heard of this! Thanks!
Amazing video!
Fascinating! Seriously! Thanx for sharing…
Thanks, Doug! 😁
Excellent video topic especially when there is a face edge and a back edge on a board the communication is important. Arris
Thank You 🙏
Wow! Amazing and fun video. Thank you.
Thank you, Paul!
I love all your shows. Have learned a bunch. Thank you
Thanks so much, Cyn!
Love this content
Every industry has its own inside unique terminology. Thanks, Ethan.
So true, Ben 🙂
I did not know this but thanks for sharing the information! This was a very interesting tutorial.
Thank you, John!
I never knew any of the terminology beyond the first six. Very informative, thank you.
Great video. I know this is basic but it’s so useful!
Thank you, Reasonable! I see it as one of those things that’s just great to learn early on. 🙂
I do like it when you make these types of videos!
Bob
England
Thank you, Bob! 😄 🏴
Joiners have another 2. Face side and face edge 😊
Thank you, Stu! 😄
Knowing the different terminology can sure make things a lot smoother when working with others. If not, there would be too much time spent on describing or explaining what needs to be done. Learned something new today, thanks Ethan 👍
Back home in the UK these terms are commonly used,, and also, "Arris" is slang for a certain posterior anatomical part, as in, "Stop fidgeting and sit on your arris!"😁
Very nice video. Arris. New to me. A novice carpenter at best. Pipefitting is my profession. I enjoy your videos. Keep them coming neighbor !
Five letter word. Cant wait to use it in Wordle!
That’s some good information concerning the amount of sides to a board! I knew I had a good reason for watching you! I just gotta little smarter today and enjoyed it. Keep up the good info! 🏆👍🥇
Thank you, Lee! I appreciate you supporting the channel 🙂
I’m happy to do so, it’s a blessing to be able to learn what should’ve been taught by professional carpenters but, for some reason was lacking. I appreciate you sharing knowledge in an understandable way. Thanks
👋 ETHAN,COMMUNALITY OF TERMINOLOGY IS VERY IMPORTANT,THANKS FOR THE EDUCATION 🧐🤗👍💚💚💚
Agreed, Budget! 😄
@@TheHonestCarpenter HONESTLY,IT IS GREAT THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH UA-cam 💚💚💚
Here I was thinking that "Arris" is just a cable modem brand. You learn something new every day. 👍
As did I just now, Craig 😆👍
Wow and "I'll see you next time Ethan" always educational.
Thanks, Nash!
Mind blowing information and hopefully I remember this to impress the cool kids!😂 Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Pa! I know they’ll be impressed 😆
I learned aris from reading Drew Langsner's Green wood working and chair making books. Definitely worthwhile
That’s awesome! 😄
You should demonstrate this by going out to a random jobsite and working with the carpenters on site. I would love to see that on video.
Oh I’ve had this conversation on jobsites before 😆
OK - heading out to impress my friends now!
Hi Ethan. Great video in the 26 surfaces of boards, mate. We are furniture makers in Western Australia. We found the video while having a break for a cup of if tea, and watched it twice. Cheers, mate ! Don.
That’s awesome, Don! I love hearing from tradespeople overseas. Thanks for watching! 😄 🇦🇺
This was awesome and totally unexpected Ethan - thanks for this! I wonder how many of my union carpenter friends know the term arris??
Thank you, Kevin! Time for a quick survey 😆
Thank you, Ethan. This was really interesting. And now I can be in that 1% and say things like, “Knock down that arris!” (Probably a good thing I work solo.) 😊
I used to work solo too, Phil. No one can complain about our fancy words that way 😜
Yeah...Nobody working at Lowes or Home Depot is gonna have this level of expertise on Lumber. 👷🏿
Generally not, W! 😅
You would be surprised how much the Home Depot people know.
Now I feel silly
I wasn’t calling those surfaces arrises, I was calling that line an arse! Guess that makes me the butt of that joke!
That contradicts the terminology that comes up in mathematics (there it's vertices, edges and faces), but each sector has its own naming convention. You can keep track of Arrises, Flat surfaces and Corners by the following fact (some restrictions apply) Corners - Arrises + Flat surfaces = 2.
*Two thumbs up*
Edge vs. End: It is not determined by size, it is determined by which one has the end-grains and which doesn't. In most boards, the shorter one also happens to be end
This is true in dimensional, but not mdf or any other composite boards. Plywood would probably be determined by surface grain. But I should have indeed mentioned that.
I can’t wait to school my boss tomorrow, gotta start the week off right 😎
Get him! 😁😁
@@TheHonestCarpenter update, you hiring?
LOVE this stuff!! So what happens when I put a kerf down the middle of the board? Would those be inner-edges and what about where the "inner-edge" meets the face at the bottom of the kerf cut? I think I just locked up my brain....
It just gets harder and harder to comprehend 😅
I always though the arrises were the women who inherited the house from family.
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More than one ARRIS is Arri? LOL, great vid!
Just 🤯
"Harris's arrisses were heavenly", say this in a British accent..Thanks for the info!
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Fun fact: it comes from the Old French word areste (arête in modern French), which means “stop”. So I guess they are the places where the faces, edges, and ends “stop”.
That’s a great fact, Marc! 😄
Interesting! Now I know that I knocked down the arrises to my sharp dresser I had assembled recently. I noticed the edges were too pointy so I beveled them..I think I said that right 🤔
You got it, Mary! 😁
It's also important to recognize where the same words are given different meanings in other contexts.
For example, the long narrow surface called an edge in carpentry would be considered a face in CAD. An arris would be called an edge: the curve of intersection of two faces.
Interesting Dane!
"Put that thing in this thing this way" - Expert to apprentice.
Also, if you round up the sides you dont need to use extra terminology.
That’s what I’ve heard on a million jobsites 😂
Its pine, i remember this from HS carpentery class from trade school. I didnt lean arrise
What a pain in the arrise!
When I try to translate “arrises” into my language, it says “opstår”, which means “occurs” in danish 😂
I wonder if there even exists a danish word for arrises. If it does I’ll find out. Great and useful terms in this video 👍
That’s amazing, SWA! I love hearing about carpentry in other languages/countries 😁👍
@@TheHonestCarpenter Well i figured that the word would be “linje” (line), which normally is a commonly used word when doing drawing stuff like blueprints or for distinction of close or joined parts. But I’ve never heard of the word being used as a term exclusively for boards like that 👍 now you know 🙂
I was expecting an explanation for "crown", "cup" and "grain" too since you had so many terms.
Different video:
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When I realized that latin in science is fundamental :/
And I entered from a engineering background lol its a pain but fun challenge to learn them terms
This is a lot of information, but not really necessary for a DIY handyman/handywoman. I hat never heard of Arrises & it hasn’t been a problem for me for the (probably) 55 years. I don’t think my dad let me handle power tools until I was around 16 y/o so I’ve done over half my life not knowing this term. I am a weekend fix-r-upper so it was not necessary for me to ever hear that term. It’s good for the builders of housing and everything else you use wood to make. That’s too technical for my needs & requirements.
Perhaps, Anthony. But my guess is…now you’ll never forget it! 😏
My surname is Harris, and I’m from London (UK). So the correct pronunciation of it is indeed Arris - how fitting
Tidy vid too, love learning things like this. Now to bore my wife with it…
Thank you for watching, ‘arris! 😆 🇬🇧
All these years of cutting wood, I referred to everything as “this edge, that edge, the top, the bottom, no..*that* bottom” I’m going to regain so much more time in not having to explain.
I’ve been there, Ian. Lots of convos like, “flip it to the other side…no, the good side!” 😅
LOL. I love how the computer programmers comment that precise terminology is paramount.
Knowledge for knowledge's sake isn't a bad thing. Might help you win a game of Trivial Pursuit someday. But carpentry ain't programming. In my 40+ years around construction and wood working no critical error was ever made on a jobsite or workshop, because someone didn't use the word arris. As a matter of fact no one ever uses the word arris. If it's so important, it wouldn't be a "secret." Using arris on the job is in most instances going to get you nothing but a blank stare, or a hammer thrown at you.
I can just imagine:
"Hey Joe, run your tape up to that arris... wait, what? Ow!" "No! Stop! I didn't say run that tape up your anu...Ow!"
"Yo Tom, don't forget to shave the edge banding off of that arris... Tom? Tom? You okay?"
Here's some more important parts of a board: Long point, short pint , heel, toe, crown, bend, cup, knot, hole...
Those words matter. Not arris.
I know it! It's wood.
I'm not a carpenter, but i know what an Arris rail is ;)
Ariss is what you do to the sharp edge. When you ariss the edge ro take paint. Follow for more accurate information😅 the term ariss the edge or ariss it, mean to take thhe sharp edge off.
And we call that chamfering. 'Arris would be Harris with a dropped H.
@@bobs12andahalf2 chamfering is different to an arris. If you'd done an apprenticeship you would know thst
@@needaman66 sorry, didn't see you way up there on your horse.
@bobs12andahalf2 Chamfering is usually a small 45. The action you're referring to is usually called "break" "soften" or "deburr" (if the material is metal)
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Why are the sides called edges when they're also faces and the bits where the faces join are edges? It's always confused me
Very informative as always Ethan 😀
Thank you, Bill!
"arrises" : ok i learnt a new word today
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That most people working in the industry don't know the word means there's probably been no need for it. And if you already do your job at a high level, learning jargon is not going to improve your work. Naming 26 or 40 parts of a single piece of lumber just sounds like way overcomplicating. It just doesn't come up in general carpentry.
Most of us carpenters don't know our arrises from a hole in the ground. 😁
I got wood. 👍
That edge is a pain in the arris
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It just chaps my arrises and corners when the wrong words are used!
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What you name as "ends", in german language is named as "Stirnseite" which literaly translate to "Forehead side". And the wooden grain you can see there we name as "Hirnholz" - literaly translated to "Brain wood". Translations of technical terms are often very confusing.
Wooooah! I did not know that Markus. Amazing. Thank you!
Arris! Hahaha new world
Totally board with this video.
I’ll allow this 😆
Never knew this in 50 years of wood butchering. Your percentage is too low. Add point nine to that. If I utter it I’ll have to provide a link to your video.
Hell Ethan there's a lot of folks who can't even spell s4s
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ARRISES are sharp edges where 2 surfaces meet at an angle. They are not sharp SURFACES (two-dimensional spaces) and are not LAYERS (thickness of material). You are welcome.
Zoom in with 20x magnification, and you will find out that an arris is not actually that sharp and very much a surface.
In practice, describing it as an edge, a surface or a layer depends on how fitting that description would be for the actual task.
@@ayrnovem9028 Hey genius, if you zoom in with electron microscope and you were the size of bacteria...... Try to bring your IQ out of single digit zone. Do you understand what it means when surface is described as 2 dimension space?
@@piotrtrocki3842 I definitely understand what it means when someone starts personal verbal attacks for no reason.
It means that your psyche is too delicate for this conversation. Sorry for making you upset, bye.
@@ayrnovem9028 lol, I'm not complaining, maybe it's you who is too delicate. At least try to prove, I'm wrong and throw in "moron" at the end of your comment.