Legacy of Kain | Turel - A Character Study
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2024
- As the leader of clan Turelim, Turel would have been the fifth and last Lieutenant to be battled, before Raziel encountered Kain in a final climatic showdown in the original vision for Soul Reaver 1.
This video contains spoilers for Legacy of Kain Blood Omen, Soul Reaver, Soul Reaver 2, Blood Omen 2 & Defiance which was made by Crystal Dynamics and currently owned by Square Enix.
The wonderful thumbnail art is Turel by もの久保もの久保
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Turel Render by Boyd Lake
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Soul Reaver : Turel Animations (Deleted Content) by Kevin Chatmajo
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Raziel and The Parasite by ArtyGamer
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Official concept art of Turel by Arnold Ayala
Turelim Tyrant (Nosgoth) by JLazarusEB
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Turelim Vampire by JLazarusEB
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Sarafan Turel by JLazarusEB
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The last day by Bastard--Prince
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Turel/Turelim concept art by Arnold Ayala
'Lieutenant Raziel' by omegaseraphx
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Azimuth (Blood Omen) by JLazarusEB
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Turel by Splurch2006
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Kain is deified by Infernauta
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All other artwork are official promotional cover art created for the series by Crystal Dynamics
Music:
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver Soundtrack - composed by Kurt Harland & Jim Hedges
These voice actors were giving it S class performances before the rest of the industry started taking video game performances seriously.
My favourite voice acting in any game series.
I have always thought of the KoK series as modern Shakespeare.
so true. it was the first that took voice performance seriously as far as I remember.
during a time when some games voice acting was frankly atrocious (looking at you resident evil) The narration of these games was absolutely awesome
Absolute facts
If there are any games out there that absolutely deserve a remake with today's hardware it is all of these games.
I'd say remastered. Remake would not be right given the fact that the elder voice actor died. It wouldn't be right playing it without the OJ voice actors.
@@timsincher5149 so they could just use the original sound track for it .
Then technically wouldn't it just be a remastered instead of a remake? Like RE2 is a remake from the ground up that also has new things that weren't in the OG one
@@timsincher5149 they can remake the game from the ground up and keep the same performances in tact. Similar to what Bluepoint did with Demon's Souls. It needs more than just a fresh coat of paint, which a remaster would provide.
Remake!!!
The fact he ended up with good hearing and blindness is thematically consistent, he listened to his master but was blind to the future he forged for himself.
That's deep
I love this interpretation. It also works with their rework, how he hears the worship from humans and despite recognizing how he is a prisoner, he is blinded by his desire to overcome Kain in terms of power when that doesn't really matter anymore.
I got chills
That moment when you finally find Turel in Defiance, OMG epic memories.
Hell yeah, you are talking true... that was a moment the player waited for through Soul Reaver I & II. I did not even expect to meet him anymore and got carried away by the story of Kain at that point so it felt like a thundrer struck 😁
Yeah, that WAS pretty epic. I remember when I first saw him, I was like "what the f**k is THIS?!" Then as he sniffed Raziel and made reference to the abyss, I nearly fell out of my chair. I was like "OOH! OOH! OOH!!! IT'S TUREL!!!! FINALLY!!!" And his "No more questions. No more worship, time to run. Time to scream. Time...to die" line was one of my favourite lines in the entire series (probably second only to Kain's "I always was considered heartless" line).
Also, it was at that moment that I realised Turel was Mr. Gromble from Nickelodeon's "Aaahh!!! Real Monsters" cartoon.
@@DisonantDyscord Couldn't have described it better!
@@DisonantDyscord I was like that too 👌🏾
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Turel it seemed really paid the price for his brutality. For despite that and his prideful nature, he was never truly free.
Here's what I believe happened to Turel post SL1:
After Kain and Raziel disappeared into the timestream, Turel continued the plan to cover Nosgoth in thick smoke - either due to his loyalty to Kain, or with him basically taking the now abandoned throne. What matters is that Turel succeded and did in fact block sunlight from reaching the land's surface... which lead to all plantlife dying out. Without plants, animals (including humans) also died out as herbivores would go first, and then carnivores wouldn't last much longer after that. Without animals and humans, there is no blood for vampires to feed on, therefore a time of darkness and hunger. It's possible that the Hylden saw that timeline and decided to sumon Turel from there, as desparate and weakened, he would be much easier to posess, and provided blood from there - his body would become strong enough again to host them.
Bonus: the near absolute absence of light could explain his evolution. Without light, sight is useless, but extremely accute hearing can thrive.
Ill buy this for a dollar
That's nice. This is the new part for me, that Turel stayed in the future and finished it off. That makes it tougher for Kain to return there and hope to get anything done. Maybe new life spreads outward from the new nature pillar, no sweat. Or else.... Kain's endgame would be aimed at some other time and place.
@@larrymcmacarroon9529 The pillars are ruined in that future, so I wouldn't count on the nature pillar... However, with Turel gone and other vampires likely going insane, it is possible that the smoke stack will not be maintained and eventually stop working. this could lead to the smoke cloud thinning out and allow light back in, and nature could return by spreading from other lands.
but turiel was too strong for three hylden to possess .
thats why they feed him only few blood as they knew if he fed normally or overfed he will overpower them easly and break from their control.
traits for kains vampire who were stronger than most vampire.
I like to believe both his models have existed in lore
The book found in Blood Omen in Avernus Cathedral reads:
And Hash'ak'gik spoke to the world, and all who heard trembled.
"Bring me your first born, and shed their blood on the altar of the world, so I might take nourishment from them.
Do this without question, or suffer my wrath for eternity."
And its will was done.
This book is very easy to miss and doesn't seem to have much relationship with Blood Omen's story, so the fact that the Defiance writers decided to use that name as a pseudonym for Turel is impressive.
Well it's no accident. Amy Henning helped with the writing of Blood Omen too, and when Crystal Dynamics ended up taking over the rights to making more games it makes sense that they would pull from the older titles. The only game in the series she didn't have a hand in writing was BO2, which kinda explains a lot but she managed to tie it mostly together (some writing threads from BO2 couldn't really be neatly resolved).
I think I saw it on one of Lonewolf’s videos.🤔
Man Turel has completely lost his mind and the cult has gone completely crazy.🙁
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that in Blood Omen there is a book that mentions the God Hash'Ak'Gik. A year ago I decided to replay Blood Omen and when I saw that book and read the name my mind was blown. The amount of detail that the writers put in this series is awe inducing.
And then Raziel being the reason Malek was late to defend the circle, allowing Vorador to kill them...absolutely incredible
@@ohgodthisitches it was hilarious because prior to the explanation given by SR2..the intro to BO made Malek out just to be a bumbling, incompetent idiot lol.
Yeah, that book was insane detail. And it brings me question - there was primary Hash'Ak'Gik, primary god, whom Turel took place, or it was created, the whole cult, when he was brought "back" to this time?
1:21 ...ive seen the opening so many times...never noticed the smoke stack
Haha, same.
IKR was thinking the same when he mentioned that and suddenly noticed it in the background I was like wtf why didn't I notice this before???
Me too. ☺
I truly love the tone of voice when he says "Oooooh, it remembers THAT..." with all the resignation of someone who just flipped their spouse's rant switch. He knows the next five minutes are gonna suck
Gregg Berger really did a great job with that VO.
@@cgraham6 Agreed. They just went to a Shakespeare production, hired people and told them to bring lots of ham to the recording studio
@@cgraham6 was that him? It sounds like Jim Cummings to me.
@@crimsondynamo615 It was Gregg. Matter of fact, if you look up the bonus features for Defiance there's some video of his recording sessions.
@@cgraham6 The same Gregg Berger known for his performances as Transformers' Grimlock and Spyro's Ripto!?
"I smell no blood! Throat cut *_first,_* blood gouting! *_Then_* it falls into the pit! The sacrifice is rejected! You will know my wrath!"
Raziel: "Stand away monster!" 10:45
Meeting Turel in Defiance is one of the most memorable moments of all the games in LoK series. That dialogue (and especially voice acting) - grovely voice of Gregg Berger adds so much to it. That "Time to run, time to scream, time... to diiiie" gives me chills and goosebumps every time. Pure gold.
It’s so amazing that Ripto’s voice actor voiced Turel in Defiance.
I hope if there’s a remastered collection,
Gregg Berger should return to voice him.
replaying the series made me realize how we never really got the true ending of legacy of kain and how Kain restore the pillars.
It stings even more knowing that such a game, alternatively titled The Dark Prophecy or Blood Omen 3, was in development between 2004 and 2005 before getting cancelled by Eidos.
@@Zeburaman2005 yeah it sucks, did see tweet once about a remaster but nothing came of it, that was a few years ago.
There's a short fan animation called Lost Chronicle that gives a very satisfying end to the series
@@critcialminxswell guess what, we now have those remastered versions
Damn, how Raziel could cut an enemy to pieces with verbal vicissitude. Savage.
The writers for this series were/are absolute wordsmiths.
Not even Bioware has ever matched _this_ level of intellectual dialogue and philosophical complexity.
Ah I remember back in the day, the name Hash'ak'gik held great mystery for fans who managed to find the tome in Blood Omen. It often got linked to the Lost City secret area leading to great speculation as to what was going on in Nosgoth's hidden depths.
Can't wait to see Varador and Mortanius and Janos Audron characters study
I'm really hoping we get a look at the Razielim too
Oh, so the absence of Sun in the Soul Reaver 1 Era was artificial. I convinced myself it was a side effect from the dying land without the pillars.
I've had the PS1 version and it was mentioned in one of these little background story texts in the contained booklet. :)
Also the ps1 had little draw distance, it is the perfect console for that atmosphere.
The wait for Turel was worth it. That scene alone is absolutely beautiful and the fight is still faithful to the previous ones; where no direct confrontation is viable but you must find a specific weakness. This franchise truly is a gem.
Legacy of kain series is my passion, and you deliver Top Quality content to match that passion love an excellence equally in kind!
@DeadNinjutsu Vae victis!
Damn, I wish this game would be remade and rereleased. I've dreamt for years about seeing all of this with better graphics; along with all the things that were originally left out of the series.
Guess what buddy
@hunterskidmore1672 I know right! I bought and played it through a couple times already. The original cheat codes still actually work too.
I liked how they ended Turel in Defiance and still left some meat for post SR1. So much lore, thanks for another amazing LOK video!!! Still keeping the hope alive that at some point we will get another LOK game to explore post Defiance and SR1 timelines. Cheers!
Thank you for doing all the brothers. I really enjoy your LoK content.
They may not make anymore but the fans haven't forgotten the series.
Definitely not forgotten👍
Legend says that Turel first recognised Raziel by his enhanced smelling sense. He could smell Raziel's soul.
An amazing video as always, can't wait on your next video.
I believe in the very first Legacy of Kain game, while exploring the Catacombs, you actually could find a book which mentions Hashagik. It's amazing how they take such a minor thing and expand upon it greatly.
Yes, that's correct. A year ago I decided to play Blood Omen again, and when I saw that book and read the name my mind was blown. The books says that it is some good humans offer sacrifices to.
how can you play bloodomen ? I cant see it on internet.
@@MrRustyDust I have it on PS1.
@@marionetamtz yeah its not in the stores or in the internet xd. the only game I didnt play
@@MrRustyDust You can download the game for free in the site called "abandonia", it has allot of old abandonware games in it.
Great place for nostalgia.
Now I cant wait ANOTHER MONTH for the next video and now that you hyped it up I'm even more impatient. Could it be the history of Vorador or Janos Audron? The Pillar Guardians themselves? The world of Nosgoth itself?
I have to thank you for getting me into the lore of this series. Take care!
STILL WAITING OH BOY IS THIS GONNA BE GOOD
Dude. No words can describe how much I appreciate all the work you've done with these incredible videos! My favorite franchise LoK brought to life again in such a nice way through your character studies. I subscribed, and can't wait to see what's next. Just keep the LoK hype alive. In time, Square Enix might notice us. Thank you once again!
You are a gift to this fan community.
Every video in your series is amazing. Please keep making this content. For those of us who genuinely love the legacy of kain series, your videos provide a huge respit full of nostalgia and comfort. There's not a lot of LoK content out there. So you're awesome for making it, despite the fact LoK is a niche subject. From your fans and fans of the series. We applaud you and thank you.
Fun fact: Defiance Turiel is voiced by Greg Berger who also voiced Transformers G1 character Grimlock, among others (Micheal Bell voiced another Dinobot, Swoop. Which makes this a small reunion of sorts)
Don’t forget that Gregg also voiced Ripto and he originally voiced Hunter in the Spyro games.
Michael Bell also voiced Drew Pickles and Charles Finster in the original Rugrats series.
You are doing the lord's work. Always look forward to videos explaining the lore of this great franchise. 👍
Fantastic character study once again. I look forward to seeing whT you have in store next. Its so frustrating that we'll likely never see the conclusion to this story. I wish we could at least get a remake.
Just gotta say I'm happy LoK is getting traction almost 20 years(!) after the last game. Thanks for making these and spreading the lore.
Turel's voice acting is some of my fav in the games. I still listen to it from time to time. Thanks for the lengthy vid
Turel's transformation looks like janos audren's from blood omen 2 near the end of the game when you find him before reverting him back to normal. I believe he was used as a battery of sorts by the hilden while torturing him at the same time.
Janos devolved due to blood deprivation to power the device.
Turel was being fed by the cultists to be used by the hylden, he evolved because of Kain's gift.
Something you forgot to mention, in Blood Omen 1 you can find a holy tome in Avernus cathedral that contains an excerpt talking about Hashagik, obviously where the writers took the inspiration for the Turel plot in Defiance
Exactly! I kept thinking "When is he going to mention this?" while watching. Good stuff.
Hashagik is actually the name of the leader of the Hylden, I believe.
Turel is called that because, of course, the Hylden keep possessing him.
@@jonathancampbell5231 Yeah but at the moment I don't think none of the writers knew who or what exactly was Hashagik when mentioned in Blood Omen, it was just briefly mentioned, so it was easy to make Turel or the Hylden this false god down beneath the cathedral.
In a way everything turned out to fit in the whole lore.
Wow!! I never knew about the dialogue and character model! Man, I love this content. Thank you for shining light on all of our childhood memories
Thanks for watching :)
Check out the official Lost Worlds channel, it has an amazing breakdown of the alpha levels!
Raziel seemed genuinely shocked to see Turel devolved into something not as grotesque as the others and like you mentioned he probably noticed the similar bat like traits he and Turel had developed
Plus Turel seemed like he wanted death even in his deranged state of mind so fighting Raziel must have been a desperate gamble against his own madness to achieve
Oh and here I thought he meant something like... "The others were grotesque but you're even uglier than them"
@@TheMastermind729 Same. I think that's more likely the intention behind it. 'the others were grotesque but you? You look good!' doesn't quite have the same impact.
@@uninvited1 yeah that just seems weird lol
@@TheMastermind729 hell id argue that Melchiah is uglier than Turel.
I'd argue it's that being pulled through time, turel has had a lot longer to evolve
It's never stated how long he's under Avernus but given how much more devolved he is than in his sr1 design it could be centuries
Given Turel answers by acknowledging how much he's changed and claiming to have surpassed Kain, it sounds like they're discussing how much further evolved/devolved he is than the others
In my eyes the SR1 depiction is what he looked like at that time, meanwhile the defiance version is the result of possibly more centuries stuck at the bottom of the dark sacrificial pit.
This series deserves a remake. It was genius, and I'm sure people would very much enjoy a graphically and gameplay wise, enhanced Soul Reaver/Blood Omen series.
Gregg Berger should return to voice Turel in the remastered pentalogy collection.
I personally have to thank the lord for your channel and your Legacy of Kain videos. it's always been my favorite series. While the gameplay can be called into question the story , writing and voice acting had always been beautiful and very Shakespearian. Thank you so much for your character study videos. You are a great creator and I hope to see more of your LOK videos soon. Stay wonderful .
Kind of makes you wonder what would have happened to Raziel had he started to devolve while a vampire.
Most likely, he would have deformed and mutated like his brothers into some kind of winged monster
How nice that they haven't forgotten about me in 2k21
Or 2024!
My masta
Those LoK videos are making me have the same feeling that I had when I was playing the LoK games. Thank you, Richie, I'm a great fan of your job.
I want to thank you for giving me this piece of hidden treasure from my childhood!
Mannn.....keep these up!!!!! I was freakin waiting for this! I even go back and watch your old Legacy of Kain videos. These are great!
Isn't the reason that Turel was so powerful and didn't so much devolve as evolve because he was the second vampire lieutenant to be raised by Kain? We hear it from Raziel himself in Soul Reaver:
"Melchiah was created last, and received the least of Kain's gifts." Implying that those born first received the most of Kain's gifts.
I think that can be said for his Soul Reaver 1 model but given enough time, even he changed so much to the point of being considered more grotesque by Raziel.
He was well fed, for being a prisoner, gifted blood is more powerful to a vampire than stolen blood, (stolen works too, but its like harvesting a little sister in bioshock, only 80 Adam, whereas gifted the same amount it would be 160), (common vampire lore) anyways he's been down there gifted sacrifice on a regular basis for at least a long minute.. Its no wonder he went beast mode
Locked in his environment, slavery and solitude drove him to madness and his evolutionary abilities adapted to cave like settings, eyes became useless, but yeah being the only one to have blood given to him willingly, on a regular basis no less, set him apart from the others as far as power scale goes
0:11 he looks a lot creepier than i remember.
i think he is using a mod, i looked up the turel scene and his ears arnt ripped up and his flesh does not look as decayed.
@@Skott_Kennedy yeah I think its a mod too,because your right he doesn't look mangled in any other version. He looks more like a hairless humanoid wingless manbat
Yes, it's a HD Defiance Retexture with Texmod by the UA-camr "The Hylden". If you want to play the game like this, you can download the Texmod here: www.fileplanet.com/archive/p-16225/Texmod-v0-9b
And the skins and ReShade here: drive.google.com/file/d/1sChw6N1veJxyHiSJOtewgoLBE3GMFlCV/view
I am so happy that someone is still talking about this fantastic series. Keep it up.
Can’t wait to see what you do next. It’s always a highlight when I see these vids pop up.
Just found this channel. I thought no one was talking about LOK in 2021. Thanks for the great content!
My favorite game's series ever. It is great that after so many years someone still talk about it!!
Exellent video!!
Thank you so much for helping in keeping this franchise alive. The story is so well written, and so many questions I had while playing the games so many years ago help get answered in this series.
Uploaded before 4 minutes and already 58 calls, 16 likes... nice work, dude 😀
Your videos are a pleasure to see for fans of LoK.
Scraping every inch of *Soul Reaver* for Tural drove me to madness. I remember jumping up and down like an excited child when I finally got closer in *LOK :Defiance*
Just wanted to say I love these character analysis from LoK and you're one of the few channels I have the notification set up for them.
Going by the deleted dialogue, it gives the impression that Turel was the brother that Raziel was closest to, and that it disappointed him to see the one he respected most had chosen to be little more than a guard dog.
I think it was more than just fatigue that initially stayed his hand, I believe Raziel just didn't want to fight his favorite brother.
I get so hyped when I see you post a new entry in this series.
i waited so anxiously for this video! thank you so much for this amazing series on Legacy of Kain
Hell yes! I'm loving these LoK videos!
Turel's monster form looks like a giant Gremlin to me
I would love to share my old lok art. Ty for making these. Could you do one on the human citadel or maybe the spirit world?
Hello Queen of Madness - why don't you share it? I assume that there are plenty of people who would like to see your works ☺
Yay a new Soul Reaver video! Great one never knew he was scrapped in the first game as i was a kid then and thought thats how it goes but now i know your supposed to face Turel.
Another great video! Can't wait for the next one!
I've been waiting for SO LOOOONG
Keep em coming. I love these in depth look at all these Legacy Of Kain characters. Great job. 👍🏻
In Blood Omen at one point there is a mention of a mysterious Hash'agik cult in Avernus Cathedral; I was most impressed how the developers connected this one obscure detail to Turel in order to make Raziel meet him.
Awesome work. The SR1 design looks like it was an earlier stage in the evolution of what he ultimately became
Been looking forward to this 👌🏾👌🏾🔥🔥🔥
I'm glad to see there are still people making great LoK content. Love your channel man
This man must be preserved for eternity
one of your best videos so far
Turtles was probably my favorite vampire lieutenant, and I do remember being sad we never saw him in Soul Reaver. When I later got to play Defiance, I did so with no online aid, so finding Hash A Gik was cool, but then I saw those ears, and remembered the Turelim from SR. I hoped really hard the game was going to slip the name, even though I still didn't expect it, and then they did, and I was thrilled! A nice loose end, finally tied up.
Thxxx, love those videos! I like when the vídeos come with captions, my english is trash but i understand when i read. Good Job!
I prefer the SR1 cut design.
It's also important to note that Turel and his clan were adept machinery craftsmen. It's presumable that they would have created siege weapons and traps for Kain's army, and also operated them.
For an engineer, going blind is a greater curse.
Can't wait for the next video. Awesome material !
Another fantastic entry! I always look forward to these.
Thanks for a great character study. Prior to watching this, I'd never seen the footage of Turel from SR1, so many thanks for sharing that. It always fascinated me how & why the vampire Turel was transported far back in time to serve as a god in the bowels of Avernus Cathedral. Now I have a measure of understanding as to why. It also fits with the dialogue from BO1. I think I prefer this to an encounter with him in SR1 (plus the version we get of him in Defiance) as it adds an interesting depth to the story. Can't wait to see what you have in store for this series. Would love at some point for you to cover fan efforts (games and websites) & maybe some of the rare comic strips from this series.
All the characters studies were great! Keep up the awesome work and Thank You for all that you do.
Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it. :)
Have you considered doing a character study on the pillar guardians
One could argue that Raziel's execution had an upside in that it both opened his eyes and spared him from becoming a bona fide monster.
He might have become almost entirely skeletal and lost his lower mandible, but at least he hasn't devolved, physically or mentally.
Rahab was probably the most sane out of Raziel's brothers, while Zephon was barely sapient, and Melchiah had to assimilate and graft the flesh of others to his body just to stave off death.
Very cool. I love these. Hopefully we get a video on raziels clan next, including whatever concept art may have been around to show a potential evolved raziel had he not been executed.
There was something chilling and sad about their confrontation in Defiance. It makes Raziel’s journey feel so long and pointless in a way. Here he is, slaughtering the last of his brothers for the second time.
An grinding, endlessly turning wheel of fratricide and betrayal that wears away whatever qualities the flawed warriors once had in their lives. Now they’re all just monsters fighting monsters.
By that point, I think killing Turel in Raziel's mind was more about tying up loose ends than fulfilling any desires of vengeance he once had
Raziel had, I think, put those feelings to bed, and he was more concerned with discovering his true destiny
He even had empathy for Turel being trapped in the disgusting bowels of Avernus
The depth of each characters in the LoK universe is amazing and these videos truly make them justice.
The one I’ve been waiting for.
I loved seeing Turel in the second game. It was nice to get an answer for his absence. Stuck in a pit lol. But I just can't find him intimidating. Those ears, he reminds me too much of my dog
keep it up buddy, one video at a time you're growing
As always perfect video and great explanation. Thank you
At last, a human who shares an equal passion. Count me subbed brother
This was a awesome video thank you for the content
Brilliant work! Looking forward to the new stuff!!👏
"I smell water, tell me Turel; have you, like Rehab, learned to swim."
So pleased to see this land and to enjoy this next chapter. Thanks again :D
Been waiting for this one!!!
Thanks for these videos man!
6:46 Pathfinder morlock illustration all of the sudden! :O
Found you today and have binged all these awesome job definitely have the like and sub
i can't wait for the next video already!
Keep it coming, I love these videos....
Faustus, Marcus, Sebastian, and Magnus Character Studies next.
Not much character there to study.
Yay, i really love your character studies 😄, keep up with such great work!
love your videos, keeps these games alive