It is a lot to give up. Considering this is probably the most likely trade to happen and it is still questionable, it shows how bad these trades really are.
I mean not really. It's a lot don't get me wrong but if they can hang on to the picks through '27 then I personally would be willing to pull the trigger. Offer Utah the players mentioned and Boston's '28 pick, SA's '29 pick, SA's 30 pick, and Dallas's '30 pick. The have to bet on themselves to be good by '29/'30. We know Boston is likely to still be good in '28 and unless Dallas loses Luka for nothing then they should be somewhere between competent and contender in 2030
Not really. 7 foot All stars in their prime, who’s game fit perfectly with a superstar are hard to find. Also, SA is not necessarily a free agent destination.
@@pr3minitions191 Not yet, but it will be once people see how good they are. We already saw some very promising signs at the end of last season. It might take a few years, but I think Wemby will be a top 10 NBA player asap.
As a Rocket's fan, I really think the Spurs should wait to see how big of a step Wemby takes this season. Everything might click and all of the sudden he's averaging 27-30 ppg this season. That kind of changes how you want to build the team going forward. They have so much flexibility right now and assests so they just hold firm. Unless it's an offer you can't refuse obviously
Lauri would be great but if thats the cost, Id hang up the phone. Lauri is on his last year and would cost a ton to resign. Danny Ainge is on the other side and he'll want a lopsided fleecing kind of deal.
@@hunttu1603a solid 3rd scoring option.. great shooter, athletic, adequate defense.. consistent on a bad team, yet to be proven on a contender team.. not a cornerstone you want to build your franchise with. very similar to a porzingis or zach levine type.. we're not talking about a jalen brunson or devin booker here. not worth what ainge is gonna be asking for.
Markkanen is a terrific player, but not worth two players, four draft picks, and a draft swap. Not to mention that he is on the final year of his current contact with Utah. He could be a free agent after the 2024-25 season. It would be an absolutely STUPID deal for the Spurs.
I needed a whole lot less than 5. It is interesting to think about if there is any way for these teams to fix this trade, but for some (like the Pelicans trade) there is no reason to do so. Yes, the Bulls want to get rid of Zach Lavine, obviously .. but the Warriors giving up multiple good players for someone who is at best a project? Hell no, that is not going to happen. Also the video creator mentions Brandon Ingram wants out .. I haven't heard that at all, he was always happy in NO. This is fans trying to either get him on their team or people trying to break up Zion and Ingram because they think it can't work. If he gets traded at all, it will be for a haul. Though I wouldn't hold it against the Pelicans if they still make a few good signs in free agency, since they freed up quite a bit of salary.
@@thedotmandoob People make a lot out of that single playoff series. 1. Ingram was just coming back from injury and sitll hobbled. Throughout his career he has had slower recovery after injury and takes some games to get back into rhythm. This series was his first games coming back. 2. Lu Dort, while a good defender, was extremely physical with him, which the refs allowed. Ingram does not show when he is fouled. Technically he got outplayed by Dort, but practically it was the refs that let them play this way, which was very hard to watch. In the series of OKC vs Luka, Dort played the same way, he was in foul trouble the whole series because Luka shows EVERY foul and can also just play through that shit. 3. If we look back at the 2022 season, the end of it, the play-in games and even the series against the Suns, Ingram was amazing there. He was fully healthy and played his ass off. It was his team that let him down there, but they still took the Suns to 6 games. Those Suns were considered one of the stronger teams which lost to the WC Finalist Mavs in the next round. I think we've seen one bad series and quite a bit of promising good play from Ingram, I'm biased but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in that he is at the very least a neutral playoff performer and at best a very good one.
@@jsports2665 The only thing Herro has over Ingram is speed and maybe better volume on threes. That last thing is something Ingram needs to work on anyways, regardless of what happends.
yeah I think everyone’s now thinking the Spurs are about to go crazy and make a bunch of win now trades since they signed 40 year old Chris Paul to a cheap rental 1 year contract. the only reason they made that signing was to give veteran leadership to players like Stephon Castle, Victor, and Devin Vassel, as well as get good playmaking from Chris Paul for One Year before they use their 3 first round picks in the loaded 2025 draft to find a replacement. The Spurs are going to build this the Spurs way, weather fans like it or not.
@@JaxonG-zg7xm The Chris Paul contract is very cheap and very tradable. He can be there just to get a young PG under his wing and offer some stability on the roster when needed. This is not a championship move, as much as I like getting CP3 a ring, they aren't rushing things in SA.
The Pelicans do NOT need more “scoring firepower” Zion, CJ, Trey Murphy, and Dejounte Murray is more than enough scoring options Our offensive struggles are the result of poor playmaking and lineups which hopefully the Murray trade has fixed The real issue is the unaddressed center position It’s obvious that any Ingram trade will have to include a center More shooting could help but no center no deal
The Pelican's offense was good, but not spectacular. I would be more interested in trading CJ, whos value is at an absolute high coming off a very good shooting season, instead of trading Ingram, who's value is lower than what he actually brings to the court. Ingram has length and is a good defender and rebounder. I put the same thing in my post, if anybody gets traded, it would be for a really good center, not much else. There needs to be at least one modern plug and play center on this roster, preferably one that can defend the rim and shoot from 3, so the lane is more open for Zion. The Pelican's rookie center can maybe act as a backup if he's ready, or they bring back some trusty cheap option like Cody Zeller as a backup. I can see them starting Zion at 5 for stretches too, this would alleviate the shooting lack from that postition too, as Zion is the most threatening player on the roster that will for sure get defensive attention. I'm still a bit worried about their 5 spot, they just let both Naji and JV go basically for nothing and haven't signed anyone with their free agency money.
@@p_sardar_b that’s my preferred option of the rumored trades. Word is Kenny Atkinson really wants to keep Allen but I think that’s an offer they’d take. Especially since the Cavs haven’t really addressed any of their offensive needs yet this offseason
@@p_sardar_b Isn't it better to go for a center that can space? If we do have to give up on Ingram (which I really dislike, I prefer to let go of CJ if we have to give up someone) we should at least get a center back for him that can at least space the floor for Zion. Otherwise, why the hell did we get rid of JV?
A center could help but not as much as Zion staying healthy. He played more this year but still got injured. He’s got to change his diet--stop eating food contraptions and having apple butter Big Macs for dessert. Damn “GoLo”…he needs “GoNO.”
Lauri would be awesome indeed for the Spurs, but not for that much! Either you give all those picks plus Collins and Champagnie or you give Johnson and Malaki plus 2(not 4) 1st round picks, 1 or 2 2nd round and a swap. Lauri is a great player and would most likely be a spectacular partner to Wemby, but he just isn't worth that much.
@@florida1289 Trae Young is much more likely. If Atlanta is going into rebuild, which the Dejounté Murray trade makes it look like, they will want to get a big deal for Trae. His timeline is different though. Wemby might be already a top 10 player next year, but there is still time to build the team around him. Trae is the best PG on the market though, if he actually is .. the Hawks might also just do a re-tool, we don't know yet.
I'd give up the players if it meant I could give up the right picks. If I could hang on to all picks through '27 then I would trade them. Trade Boston '28, SA '29&'30, Dallas '30
These trades absolutely make no sense at all. It is wishful thinking stuff for one team, just to get one good player on a certain team. The only one I can see happen is the final one with Lauri going to the spurs and that is because of all the first round picks. He might even want out, as the Jazz aren't doing anything and getting to the Spurs to play with Wemby might be something he would like over staying with his current team. The Zach Lavine trade makes no sense because while Zach is a great scorer, I don't think they can afford to give up both Wiggins and Moody, let alone Looney and Payton II. Maybe Wiggings alone for the money is needed, but these are ALL rotation players. Moody is probably more valuable on his own as a young player that fits with any team, while Zach currently is more of a project you hope works out. If I were re-tooling the warriors and try to integrate Zach Lavine into the lineup, I would maybe try to offer Wiggins in a straight up swap .. but even that just feels wrong, as he at least is a great rotation piece that offers defense and a way more varied scoring package. Scoring a lot of points on a really bad team might look great on paper, but the Bulls were worse with him in the lineup for a reason, he can't defend, doesn't have a lot of playmaking and is basically only a shooter. Any new Warriors lineup I would go for would certainly include Moody, he is untouchable unless you get someone extremely enticing for him. The Brandon Ingram trade is the opposite in where the value lies, but it is equally bad in practice. In this case the starplayer is an actual great player. He offers a ton of playmaking, versatility in scoring and is even a good defender. Why would the Pelicans trade for Herro? He's a less good playmaker that can't defend well and offers a scoring package that is good, but certainly not better than Brandon Ingram. If they want to go for more youth, which is understandable, just offer CJ for him instead. CJ just came off his best shooting season of his career, so his value is probably also a bit higher than just Herro alone and some picks, but with Caleb Martin sweetening the deal, it could work out. Though, when I think about it, I don't think giving up CJ is something I would want to do, the team needs a great big, as the Pelicans have no center, so if they are to be giving up CJ, trade him for a very good center instead, not for someone that performs in the same role. If you're trying to make these trades, take a good look at what both teams want and then try to make that happen. For Lauri, it could make sense, he might even want out himself, but those other trades are just bad. I didn't even talk about the Trae Young trade, but if he was offered an equal amount it could work out and send the Hawks into rebuild themselves.
I don’t get why teams sleep on Zach Lavine. While valuing value Paul George so much. He's 34 and injury prone. Zach is younger and makes less money. Yeah, he's also injury prone, but not like PG. He’s a easily 25, 5, 5 a night player.
Trey Young trade is crazy. Atl dumped Murray they dont have all their own picks for a few years therefore TY isnt going anywhere unless someone came with 4 or 5 1st type deal, easy.
Jazz have more than enough unprotected first round picks over the next three seasons, Spurs can use a few second round picks instead of one of the 2025 first rounders.
Castle, ATL 1st 2025, ATL 1st 2027, SAS 1st 2029, DAL 1st 2030, SAS 1st pick swap 2030, SAS 1st 2031, MIN 1st 2031 for Lauri. That is the haul Ainge and Zanik needs to want to move off of him. Anything less, we should keep him and build around him.
lol that's to much for trey and pels would need Jovic to even think about it maybe another pick, first offer for Lauri that Danny might not hang up on lol
To be fair, the only player I would accept for Brandon Ingram or CJ in return would be Bam, he is basically the one player they can actually use from the Heat. I don't think that is going to happen, unless Bam wants out or something.
no way we trade for lauri. If KJ had his own team at this point in time he would have the same stats as lauri or even better. KJ underrated rn. Spurs gonna get cp3 his first ring
Dealing with Ainge is a bad deal if you are buying Markkanen. As for LaVine, it’s going to cost the Bulls at least a FRP for each season remaining on LaVine’s contract (3) to jettison him. Corrosive player and he has corrosive management. No team wants that cloud.
Lavine is known for being a bad defender. I think the Warriors are trying to get back to there days of being a top 10 defensive team, where Steph tries to carry the offense.
If I’m the warriors screw going after Lauri they’re not gonna pull that off without throwing away kuminga and all their draft assets cmon it’s Danny ainge😂 just go after Lavine on a way lower asking price currently and find a way to get Vooch in the deal too.. ur telling me a 10 man rotation of Steph-Lavine-Kuminga-Draymond-Vooch and off the bench Podz-melton-Buddy-Kyle-TJD can’t compete?🤔🤔 Lavine and Vooch just need a motivating fresh start on a winning franchise/environment.. a 22-25ppg sg and a 18 n 10 stretch big is exactly what a desperate team like the warriors need to prolong Steph’s late prime chances.
BI is not the offensive player we need as a heart fan. He doesn't have the heart or will to elevate his game to the next level in the playoffs. This year proved that.
As a spurs fan, I’m good on Lauri, good fit yes, but the price is going to be way to high. Would much rather keep the picks as a form of long term currency that can be used however, including making a move for a real superstar (which I don’t think Lauri quite is), when that time comes.
Lauri is like a non-superstar player that produces like a superstar. His numbers were close to Kevin Durant in terms of efficiency. He also is younger, more athletic, stronger, less injury prone and doesn't cost as much.
Lauri is not a needle mover....not in Chicago, not for Finland and not even for Utah....Glorified Keldon in terms of stats....as a Spurs fan....no bro!
The Bulls have already been rumored to have been shopping LaVine with a 1st round pick attached. If it doesn’t happen, it’s not because the Bulls didn’t try.
The more I look at it, the worse this trade gets. Not only are the Warriors giving up way too many good players for 1 project, the Bulls want to rebuild, so they need either a really young player or first round picks, preferably both, not giving up their own picks. In this case, even though the trade is lobsided heavily towards the Bulls favor, neither team gets what they want ... which is an achievement by itself. Who even thought these things up? They are just horrible.
If Lauri goes to the Spurs then they go to the playoffs and I don’t get why they traded away their 14th pick this year if they’re rebuilding around Wemby!!! I’m not a Spurs fan but that didn’t make sense.
The Hawks just told the NBA they are Trae Young's team by trading Murray to New Orleans so to get Trae Young from the Hawks it would have to be a Paul George to the Clippers trade that would have to include lots of picks and have to include at least1 All-Star level player and Orlando doesn't have that to trade because the only 2 players that fall in that category are the two they won't trade so any big moves for Orlando are not possible. However with their cap room and history of helping rebuild a positive career from players the league has given up on why not take a chance and send 2 second round pics and Jett Howard to Brooklyn for Ben Simmons as long as he passes his Physical and is willing to play. His defense could help but only if they don't have to give anything of value to get him and I could see a 1st round pick or pick swap coming with him because of that massive contract.
Four guys who are all generally considered negatives on defense. Markannen may be the one who is more neutral & is worth trading for because of the offensive upside.
Ingram is a good defender. Maybe not in space, but he has great hands and is a good rim defender for a wing. He just came off his best defensive season of his career.
Utah is in a race to the bottom for 2025 draft class. warriors and Sacramento are not going to finish worse than Utah but spurs could be considered a competing team with Utah for the bottom SO trading LMarkennen to the spurs makes it highly unlikely spurs will finish worse than Utah. If Utah keeps LMarkennen then Utah will win more games. Priority is on the 2025 draft above all other things.
@@JohnJoe131Lavines contract is brutal for what he brings. Brings scoring, if he's healthy, but doesn't bring anything defensively. And on an expensive contract, not worth the risk, especially since the warriors have been wanting to get out of the aprons. If lavine was more of a 20m/year player, I think the deal would have been done, though
@@berserkmonk5331if lavine was 20 mil a year player, the warriors wouldn't even had a conversation because the bulls would want way more than cp3 and Wiggins.
@@jay-rboone3857 lol forsure. At 20m/year, the Bulls would be able to shop him around the league and could be involved in all different types of interesting deals.
@@jay-rboone3857 sure he was injured but he isn’t looked at as a positive asset anymore . Hasn’t been the all star he capable of being and is looked at as an overpaid asset. As a player with his fit i also dnt see many teams that would make any sense for him at this point either. I can see maybe the lakers, but other then golden state i dnt see any other team being interested in bringing that on
I wish, but the Heat wouldn’t give up Bam I know that sounds like good value for him but they plan to build around Bam even more with Jimmy aging. Bam is their future
and when 39 year old CP3 leaves in a year or at the trade deadline and you've given up all those picks, where are you gonna get your next point guard? Its such a dumb trade scenario
That would be a very dumb trade on Chicago's part they let Lori go too soon they didn't give him a chance to develop there but they've been doing a lot of dumb things
Lauri trade is like an impulse buy for the Spurs. Looks enticing until you realize how much it will actually cost in trade.
It is a lot to give up. Considering this is probably the most likely trade to happen and it is still questionable, it shows how bad these trades really are.
I mean not really. It's a lot don't get me wrong but if they can hang on to the picks through '27 then I personally would be willing to pull the trigger. Offer Utah the players mentioned and Boston's '28 pick, SA's '29 pick, SA's 30 pick, and Dallas's '30 pick. The have to bet on themselves to be good by '29/'30. We know Boston is likely to still be good in '28 and unless Dallas loses Luka for nothing then they should be somewhere between competent and contender in 2030
Not really. 7 foot All stars in their prime, who’s game fit perfectly with a superstar are hard to find. Also, SA is not necessarily a free agent destination.
@@pr3minitions191 Not yet, but it will be once people see how good they are. We already saw some very promising signs at the end of last season. It might take a few years, but I think Wemby will be a top 10 NBA player asap.
As a Rocket's fan, I really think the Spurs should wait to see how big of a step Wemby takes this season. Everything might click and all of the sudden he's averaging 27-30 ppg this season. That kind of changes how you want to build the team going forward. They have so much flexibility right now and assests so they just hold firm. Unless it's an offer you can't refuse obviously
Lauri would be great but if thats the cost, Id hang up the phone. Lauri is on his last year and would cost a ton to resign. Danny Ainge is on the other side and he'll want a lopsided fleecing kind of deal.
Agree if the cost is too much wait a year
Plus giving up on 1st draft pick next year is dumb considering the talent there is in 2025
Then you dont have no idea what Lauri's value is
@@hunttu1603If you know Danny ainge he won’t accept any of you don’t overpay by alot he is the goat scammer gm
@@hunttu1603a solid 3rd scoring option.. great shooter, athletic, adequate defense.. consistent on a bad team, yet to be proven on a contender team.. not a cornerstone you want to build your franchise with. very similar to a porzingis or zach levine type.. we're not talking about a jalen brunson or devin booker here. not worth what ainge is gonna be asking for.
Markkanen is a terrific player, but not worth two players, four draft picks, and a draft swap. Not to mention that he is on the final year of his current contact with Utah. He could be a free agent after the 2024-25 season.
It would be an absolutely STUPID deal for the Spurs.
Not really tho. They have plenty of money. And if it's the RIGHT picks it would absolutely be worth it
None of these make sense when you take more than 5 seconds to think about it.
I needed a whole lot less than 5. It is interesting to think about if there is any way for these teams to fix this trade, but for some (like the Pelicans trade) there is no reason to do so. Yes, the Bulls want to get rid of Zach Lavine, obviously .. but the Warriors giving up multiple good players for someone who is at best a project? Hell no, that is not going to happen.
Also the video creator mentions Brandon Ingram wants out .. I haven't heard that at all, he was always happy in NO. This is fans trying to either get him on their team or people trying to break up Zion and Ingram because they think it can't work. If he gets traded at all, it will be for a haul. Though I wouldn't hold it against the Pelicans if they still make a few good signs in free agency, since they freed up quite a bit of salary.
@@pinobluevogel6458 not to mention hero is a proven playoff performer and Ingram just came off a horrible playoff performance
@@thedotmandoob People make a lot out of that single playoff series.
1. Ingram was just coming back from injury and sitll hobbled. Throughout his career he has had slower recovery after injury and takes some games to get back into rhythm. This series was his first games coming back.
2. Lu Dort, while a good defender, was extremely physical with him, which the refs allowed. Ingram does not show when he is fouled. Technically he got outplayed by Dort, but practically it was the refs that let them play this way, which was very hard to watch. In the series of OKC vs Luka, Dort played the same way, he was in foul trouble the whole series because Luka shows EVERY foul and can also just play through that shit.
3. If we look back at the 2022 season, the end of it, the play-in games and even the series against the Suns, Ingram was amazing there. He was fully healthy and played his ass off. It was his team that let him down there, but they still took the Suns to 6 games. Those Suns were considered one of the stronger teams which lost to the WC Finalist Mavs in the next round.
I think we've seen one bad series and quite a bit of promising good play from Ingram, I'm biased but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in that he is at the very least a neutral playoff performer and at best a very good one.
Yah no way I take herro over Ingram I don't care what one recent playoff series shows
@@jsports2665 The only thing Herro has over Ingram is speed and maybe better volume on threes. That last thing is something Ingram needs to work on anyways, regardless of what happends.
What does Caleb Martin do for the pelicans? Seriously
What does Herro do for the Pelicans?
Pels need a center.
If I’m the spurs I’m gonna continue to do what I’m doing. Building for the long haul.
yeah I think everyone’s now thinking the Spurs are about to go crazy and make a bunch of win now trades since they signed 40 year old Chris Paul to a cheap rental 1 year contract. the only reason they made that signing was to give veteran leadership to players like Stephon Castle, Victor, and Devin Vassel, as well as get good playmaking from Chris Paul for One Year before they use their 3 first round picks in the loaded 2025 draft to find a replacement. The Spurs are going to build this the Spurs way, weather fans like it or not.
@@JaxonG-zg7xmweather was crazy
@@JaxonG-zg7xm The Chris Paul contract is very cheap and very tradable. He can be there just to get a young PG under his wing and offer some stability on the roster when needed. This is not a championship move, as much as I like getting CP3 a ring, they aren't rushing things in SA.
@@userlamezz autocorrect
Spurs trynna build the tallest line up ever
That Lauri trade isn't worth it on an expiring contract
They would get assurances of an extension before doing the deal
The Pelicans do NOT need more “scoring firepower”
Zion, CJ, Trey Murphy, and Dejounte Murray is more than enough scoring options
Our offensive struggles are the result of poor playmaking and lineups which hopefully the Murray trade has fixed
The real issue is the unaddressed center position
It’s obvious that any Ingram trade will have to include a center
More shooting could help but no center no deal
The Pelican's offense was good, but not spectacular. I would be more interested in trading CJ, whos value is at an absolute high coming off a very good shooting season, instead of trading Ingram, who's value is lower than what he actually brings to the court. Ingram has length and is a good defender and rebounder.
I put the same thing in my post, if anybody gets traded, it would be for a really good center, not much else. There needs to be at least one modern plug and play center on this roster, preferably one that can defend the rim and shoot from 3, so the lane is more open for Zion. The Pelican's rookie center can maybe act as a backup if he's ready, or they bring back some trusty cheap option like Cody Zeller as a backup.
I can see them starting Zion at 5 for stretches too, this would alleviate the shooting lack from that postition too, as Zion is the most threatening player on the roster that will for sure get defensive attention. I'm still a bit worried about their 5 spot, they just let both Naji and JV go basically for nothing and haven't signed anyone with their free agency money.
Trade Ingram and a 1st round for Jarrett Allen maybe
@@p_sardar_b that’s my preferred option of the rumored trades.
Word is Kenny Atkinson really wants to keep Allen but I think that’s an offer they’d take. Especially since the Cavs haven’t really addressed any of their offensive needs yet this offseason
@@p_sardar_b Isn't it better to go for a center that can space? If we do have to give up on Ingram (which I really dislike, I prefer to let go of CJ if we have to give up someone) we should at least get a center back for him that can at least space the floor for Zion. Otherwise, why the hell did we get rid of JV?
A center could help but not as much as Zion staying healthy. He played more this year but still got injured. He’s got to change his diet--stop eating food contraptions and having apple butter Big Macs for dessert. Damn “GoLo”…he needs “GoNO.”
Have any of these projected trades ever happened?
BR just loves throwing shit at the wall
They are all way too onesided, just to try and get big name players in a trade. None of that is going to work.
Man this is just a terrible video, all of these trades are one sided.
Lauri would be awesome indeed for the Spurs, but not for that much! Either you give all those picks plus Collins and Champagnie or you give Johnson and Malaki plus 2(not 4) 1st round picks, 1 or 2 2nd round and a swap. Lauri is a great player and would most likely be a spectacular partner to Wemby, but he just isn't worth that much.
Right, and Ainge will want the picks.
I'd rather see Trey Young and Wemby together their pnr would be unstoppable
@@florida1289 Trae Young is much more likely. If Atlanta is going into rebuild, which the Dejounté Murray trade makes it look like, they will want to get a big deal for Trae. His timeline is different though. Wemby might be already a top 10 player next year, but there is still time to build the team around him. Trae is the best PG on the market though, if he actually is .. the Hawks might also just do a re-tool, we don't know yet.
As a Spurs fan, I don't want to see Trae anywhere near San Antonio
I'd give up the players if it meant I could give up the right picks. If I could hang on to all picks through '27 then I would trade them. Trade Boston '28, SA '29&'30, Dallas '30
These trades absolutely make no sense at all. It is wishful thinking stuff for one team, just to get one good player on a certain team. The only one I can see happen is the final one with Lauri going to the spurs and that is because of all the first round picks. He might even want out, as the Jazz aren't doing anything and getting to the Spurs to play with Wemby might be something he would like over staying with his current team.
The Zach Lavine trade makes no sense because while Zach is a great scorer, I don't think they can afford to give up both Wiggins and Moody, let alone Looney and Payton II. Maybe Wiggings alone for the money is needed, but these are ALL rotation players. Moody is probably more valuable on his own as a young player that fits with any team, while Zach currently is more of a project you hope works out.
If I were re-tooling the warriors and try to integrate Zach Lavine into the lineup, I would maybe try to offer Wiggins in a straight up swap .. but even that just feels wrong, as he at least is a great rotation piece that offers defense and a way more varied scoring package. Scoring a lot of points on a really bad team might look great on paper, but the Bulls were worse with him in the lineup for a reason, he can't defend, doesn't have a lot of playmaking and is basically only a shooter. Any new Warriors lineup I would go for would certainly include Moody, he is untouchable unless you get someone extremely enticing for him.
The Brandon Ingram trade is the opposite in where the value lies, but it is equally bad in practice. In this case the starplayer is an actual great player. He offers a ton of playmaking, versatility in scoring and is even a good defender. Why would the Pelicans trade for Herro? He's a less good playmaker that can't defend well and offers a scoring package that is good, but certainly not better than Brandon Ingram. If they want to go for more youth, which is understandable, just offer CJ for him instead. CJ just came off his best shooting season of his career, so his value is probably also a bit higher than just Herro alone and some picks, but with Caleb Martin sweetening the deal, it could work out.
Though, when I think about it, I don't think giving up CJ is something I would want to do, the team needs a great big, as the Pelicans have no center, so if they are to be giving up CJ, trade him for a very good center instead, not for someone that performs in the same role.
If you're trying to make these trades, take a good look at what both teams want and then try to make that happen. For Lauri, it could make sense, he might even want out himself, but those other trades are just bad. I didn't even talk about the Trae Young trade, but if he was offered an equal amount it could work out and send the Hawks into rebuild themselves.
I don’t get why teams sleep on Zach Lavine. While valuing value Paul George so much.
He's 34 and injury prone. Zach is younger and makes less money. Yeah, he's also injury prone, but not like PG. He’s a easily 25, 5, 5 a night player.
In my opinion:all this rumors,trades cntract sgning,1st draft pick?_all of this.. .its all abwt,money&businesses arwnd the league!!🌀🤔🤔😤
Trey Young trade is crazy. Atl dumped Murray they dont have all their own picks for a few years therefore TY isnt going anywhere unless someone came with 4 or 5 1st type deal, easy.
Jazz have more than enough unprotected first round picks over the next three seasons, Spurs can use a few second round picks instead of one of the 2025 first rounders.
Dont want lauria injury pron, cost too much. And draft capitol. Ill trade for miles Bridges, more athletic, and younger
4 1st and 1 pick swap is too much. Markannen is in an expiring contract. They could get him at the 2025 free agency.
If the Jazz not interested in OKC’s offer for Lauri who have endless assets they most definitely not accepting a trade offer from any other team
"Everything that could have went wrong..." BAD GRAMMAR
spurs have 15 first round picks over next 6 years , that's way too many. we need to get rid of some for some offense
You’re assuming Mike Dunleavy Jr is a bad gm, which you’d be right.
Nah this is super unrealistic, Zach to the GSW not happening they don’t need him at all
As an Orlando fan I don't mind this at all... As you said.. hawks say no all day😁😂
You think the zhawks trade was crazy but not the spurs one ? Huh
I wanna see vuavic from Chicago be traded Knicks csn use him so can mavs
Castle, ATL 1st 2025, ATL 1st 2027, SAS 1st 2029, DAL 1st 2030, SAS 1st pick swap 2030, SAS 1st 2031, MIN 1st 2031 for Lauri. That is the haul Ainge and Zanik needs to want to move off of him. Anything less, we should keep him and build around him.
Um pretty sure the Warriors said no to a Lavine trade...
Bro I'ma be honest none of these trades are happening 💀
Brandon podzemski is the replacement
lavinento warriors is already rejected
this was a school presentation right? -_-
You absolutely hate the warriors.
lol that's to much for trey and pels would need Jovic to even think about it maybe another pick, first offer for Lauri that Danny might not hang up on lol
To be fair, the only player I would accept for Brandon Ingram or CJ in return would be Bam, he is basically the one player they can actually use from the Heat. I don't think that is going to happen, unless Bam wants out or something.
OMG! This Lavine to the Warriors actually makes sense
These trades all look pretty bad to me.
1st trade is not that good for the warriors
Steph will be a LAKER!
no way we trade for lauri. If KJ had his own team at this point in time he would have the same stats as lauri or even better. KJ underrated rn. Spurs gonna get cp3 his first ring
I would give up zach collins and branham’s trash ass. Sidy could go to if he has, too same with champagnie.
ainge will ask for alot imo
These are better trade places
HEAT get Demar Derozon
GSW get Lauri Markennen
MINN get Brandon Ingram
NYK get Walker Kessler
SAC get Myles Bridges
Ingram for Ayton?
Dealing with Ainge is a bad deal if you are buying Markkanen. As for LaVine, it’s going to cost the Bulls at least a FRP for each season remaining on LaVine’s contract (3) to jettison him. Corrosive player and he has corrosive management. No team wants that cloud.
Lavine is a 25 top scorer and the bulls won't be attaching any picks to the trade. Tf are yall thinking 😂
You have no idea wtf you are talking about.
Brook lopez is also good for backup center if lauri falls thru just need a 3&d player that can shoot like gary trent jr
Spurs never do much during trade time. Pop is getting older, how long does he want to keep rebuilding at his stage of life.
Lavine is known for being a bad defender. I think the Warriors are trying to get back to there days of being a top 10 defensive team, where Steph tries to carry the offense.
If I’m the warriors screw going after Lauri they’re not gonna pull that off without throwing away kuminga and all their draft assets cmon it’s Danny ainge😂 just go after Lavine on a way lower asking price currently and find a way to get Vooch in the deal too.. ur telling me a 10 man rotation of Steph-Lavine-Kuminga-Draymond-Vooch and off the bench Podz-melton-Buddy-Kyle-TJD can’t compete?🤔🤔 Lavine and Vooch just need a motivating fresh start on a winning franchise/environment.. a 22-25ppg sg and a 18 n 10 stretch big is exactly what a desperate team like the warriors need to prolong Steph’s late prime chances.
BI is not the offensive player we need as a heart fan. He doesn't have the heart or will to elevate his game to the next level in the playoffs. This year proved that.
spurs take ravine and his contract in exchange for bulls making the pick they traded to spurs for 2025 unprotected?? Worth it??
No
@@jay-rboone3857 lol
Spurs should avoid trading for anyone else. Just continue to draft future HOFers
The Warriors don't need Lavine now that the Warriors just signed Buddy Heild.
As a spurs fan, I’m good on Lauri, good fit yes, but the price is going to be way to high. Would much rather keep the picks as a form of long term currency that can be used however, including making a move for a real superstar (which I don’t think Lauri quite is), when that time comes.
Lauri is like a non-superstar player that produces like a superstar. His numbers were close to Kevin Durant in terms of efficiency. He also is younger, more athletic, stronger, less injury prone and doesn't cost as much.
I’m not giving those 2025 picks for lauri if I was the spurs
Lauri is pronounced closer to Kyle Lowry's last name.
I think Lori could be really special repeat that word contending team
No, muy caro markanen
You know this trades doesn't makes sense and you still created video out of it.
Utah aint getting those 2025 1st rd picks. Gtfo. 😂
Lauri is not a needle mover....not in Chicago, not for Finland and not even for Utah....Glorified Keldon in terms of stats....as a Spurs fan....no bro!
bulls are not attaching a pick to trade lavine. especially to get wiggins back in the trade lol.
Bulls trade is horrible, we aint giving that pick
Thats why yall in the bottom of the east, thats weak
@@dc9646they were 9th in the east. Stop being stupid on purpose.
The Bulls have already been rumored to have been shopping LaVine with a 1st round pick attached. If it doesn’t happen, it’s not because the Bulls didn’t try.
The more I look at it, the worse this trade gets. Not only are the Warriors giving up way too many good players for 1 project, the Bulls want to rebuild, so they need either a really young player or first round picks, preferably both, not giving up their own picks.
In this case, even though the trade is lobsided heavily towards the Bulls favor, neither team gets what they want ... which is an achievement by itself. Who even thought these things up? They are just horrible.
@@chrischris7956 we only giving a portland lottery pick, not our own picks
That Brandon Ingram trade is amazing for nola
I disagree. That trade does absolutely nothing for the pelicans. They are trading for their 7th man? And Martin is a non factor. They need a big
Didn't he lead the heat in scoring last year?@@kingsamthefirst5053
One of the worst bi trades I’ve seen tbh
No it not we don't have a big that what we looking for
Caleb Martin is on the sixers now I don't see this happening anyway
If Lauri goes to the Spurs then they go to the playoffs and I don’t get why they traded away their 14th pick this year if they’re rebuilding around Wemby!!! I’m not a Spurs fan but that didn’t make sense.
2nd trade is pretty good for both sides but the pels would have 2 players that play like Tyler herro
The Hawks just told the NBA they are Trae Young's team by trading Murray to New Orleans so to get Trae Young from the Hawks it would have to be a Paul George to the Clippers trade that would have to include lots of picks and have to include at least1 All-Star level player and Orlando doesn't have that to trade because the only 2 players that fall in that category are the two they won't trade so any big moves for Orlando are not possible. However with their cap room and history of helping rebuild a positive career from players the league has given up on why not take a chance and send 2 second round pics and Jett Howard to Brooklyn for Ben Simmons as long as he passes his Physical and is willing to play. His defense could help but only if they don't have to give anything of value to get him and I could see a 1st round pick or pick swap coming with him because of that massive contract.
The Nets aren't attaching anything to Simmons because he is an expiring contract.
Four guys who are all generally considered negatives on defense. Markannen may be the one who is more neutral & is worth trading for because of the offensive upside.
Ingram is a good defender. Maybe not in space, but he has great hands and is a good rim defender for a wing. He just came off his best defensive season of his career.
Laurie on the Spurs with Victor would be great to see 🔥
Lauri would cost too much in trade.
Just realized this is really just a reaction channel. No original content.
Sexton to the magic ?
Utah is in a race to the bottom for 2025 draft class. warriors and Sacramento are not going to finish worse than Utah but spurs could be considered a competing team with Utah for the bottom SO trading LMarkennen to the spurs makes it highly unlikely spurs will finish worse than Utah. If Utah keeps LMarkennen then Utah will win more games. Priority is on the 2025 draft above all other things.
Im not giving up all that for lauria
Dude, do at least a little research wtf... the bulls already offered Lavine for Wiggins and Paul and got rejected...
He didn’t write the article bro
@@alexmason5521 My brotha he talking about the warriors would take the deal in a heartbeat and shit, that's literally false
@@JohnJoe131Lavines contract is brutal for what he brings. Brings scoring, if he's healthy, but doesn't bring anything defensively. And on an expensive contract, not worth the risk, especially since the warriors have been wanting to get out of the aprons.
If lavine was more of a 20m/year player, I think the deal would have been done, though
@@berserkmonk5331if lavine was 20 mil a year player, the warriors wouldn't even had a conversation because the bulls would want way more than cp3 and Wiggins.
@@jay-rboone3857 lol forsure. At 20m/year, the Bulls would be able to shop him around the league and could be involved in all different types of interesting deals.
I really like the lavine to warriors idea, think that would be the perfect place to rejuvenate his career
Chicago isn't attaching a pick. That would be stupid. Also his career doesn't need to be "rejuvenated" 😂😂😂😂 he was injured.
@@jay-rboone3857 sure he was injured but he isn’t looked at as a positive asset anymore . Hasn’t been the all star he capable of being and is looked at as an overpaid asset. As a player with his fit i also dnt see many teams that would make any sense for him at this point either. I can see maybe the lakers, but other then golden state i dnt see any other team being interested in bringing that on
Pelicans heat trade is terrible. I would trade BI Jordan Hawkins and two firsts for bam
Bam isn’t going anywhere; the Heat is his team now and he’s a DPOY caliber player who is just approaching his prime.
I wish, but the Heat wouldn’t give up Bam
I know that sounds like good value for him but they plan to build around Bam even more with Jimmy aging. Bam is their future
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Zach Lavine To The Warriors Is Perfect
Except it just isn't, the warriors declined the bulls offer of lavine and a first, for cp3 and Wiggins. They then proceeded to waive cp3.
@danajohnston2653 the bulls didn't offer a first
Your trae young trade sucks. Mikal b got 6 pics ....dj got 4. Trae will get a kings ransom
Get Lauri on the Spurs. CP3, Victor, Lauri, Vassell and Sochan would be crazy. They should at least make the play in with that roster.
and when 39 year old CP3 leaves in a year or at the trade deadline and you've given up all those picks, where are you gonna get your next point guard? Its such a dumb trade scenario
Lavine for Jordan Poole
What😂
That would be a very dumb trade on Chicago's part they let Lori go too soon they didn't give him a chance to develop there but they've been doing a lot of dumb things
Second 🎉
Luari just been traded to the warriors
Source?
B/R doesn’t have it
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@@adityaswamy5657his ass
The warriors aren’t getting him, they don’t have enough to offer without being worse than the Jazz lol