Canada looking to cut $1B from national defence budget
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2023
- Rosemary Barton talks with retired general Tom Lawson, former chief of the defence staff of Canada's Armed Forces, about the suggestion that Ottawa is looking to cut $1 billion from the national defence budget.
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So we send 9 billion dollars to Ukraine??? And we can't even provide basic neccessities to our own in Canada? What in the hell is going on?
PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES!
i understand the outrage, but ukraine is essential. canadian border is actually in ukraine/greece/latvia…have the troops focused there instead of canada. obviously, other border is skorea/japan.
And still Canadian military defends our criminals in the government. If military really want to protect Canada they should do what Romain military did to Nicolay Choushescu in 1989. Everyone knows it.
Are the "we" in this sentence Canada? Because Canada don't need Americans babying them like that.
Virtue signalling. Look at us. We are so wonderful helping Ukraine defeat big bad Russia ! Meanwhile, our armed forces. Broke . Our health care? Broke. Our housing ? Don't ask.
We are tired of being embarrassed..
Then leave
Hmmm! I thought our PM committed to increased spending to meet our NATO commitment.
I was thinking the same thing.
Meh. We should decrease it significantly. The US is too invested in Canadian independence from American competitors like China to have leverage
It's not like the fight for Canada is happening with guns anyways, instead about buying resource access from capitalists who don't care, and influence with bureaucrats who don't care
@@lomiification If you decrease your military spending, that gives America more leverage over Canada than it already does. It jeopardizes Canada's sovereignty.
@@alexanderangelo7284exactly. Canada is not going to align closer with China or Russia PERIOD. That is a massive risk to our sovereignty.
However, if we cut defense we will become even more dependent on the United States to defend us … and risk our sovereignty there too.
9 billion was shoveled over to the Fascists in the Ukraine.
What more can we give?
Heck, they got all the serviceable tanks/How about those old guns at the cenotaphs around the country?
Oh, wait. We might need them someday.
Wrong move. We need to actively look towards defending our arctic sovereignty.
It'll be a matter of time when we either cede the Nunavut islands to the US since we are incapable to protecting it.
Ya that world class Russian navy that is loosing to dollar store drones with grenades on them. Is going to invade a barren wasteland to trigger a nuclear war through article 5. I'm concerned you are having a stroke, please seek immediate medical attention.
@@TherealRTZ973Article 5 only matters if you're a reliable ally worth defending.
Its the wrong move if you're trying to defend Canada as a country, which he's not hes a globalist so for him it's a good move for his bosses
This is odd we are sending billions overseas and im for helping Ukraine but I think we should be that serious on getting our people to a stable life again.
Right on!
The government needs to trim the budget and it’s targeting defence because typically over the last 35 years it has been an easy target for cuts. But the thing is that we are no longer living in a post-Cold War world. It’s also important to understand that these cuts are targeting training and operations. That money is going into the local economy in Canada. Canadian companies provide the training and support to training. If those budget are slashed, that is less contracts for those companies and those companies will have to cut staff. The government needs to take their heads out of their rear orifices and realize that cutting defence is not the easy path it used to be.
I can't even begin to tell fellow Canadians what a mess our military is. Former Naval Warfare Officer here. I warned them about this issue during my exit interviews, and now they are reaping what they sowed. I am an immigrant and been here since 1994. This country is going downhill. If you want somewhat of a future, go overseas.
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So funny 🤣... Canada is currently becoming political joke internationally
Has been for a while
Canada has always been a joke on the world stage since decades ago, lol
Becoming????
Since 2015 .
We were following US, what you expect? Isn't US politics had been world wide entertainment for years?
As a Canadian, I am feeling impotent. We are more Can'tada than Canada.
You can do something. Never vote for the Liberals.
You want to pay more taxes to buy guns? I'm happy to pay more taxes to fix broken systems, but not to waste the money on guns
Especially buying foreign guns
@@cuybueno all the parties do this. The conservatives did it in 2014.
The issue is we need to tell ALL our politicians that Canadians do care about national defence. They need to know that the Canadians do want a well-funded and well equipped military. We need to tell all our politicians, in all parties, that this does matter and we are watching.
@@lomiificationmoron!
Fun fact: Canadians troops in Poland had to buy their own kit and was not fed because they couldn’t get money to them
Total joke. And the world knows.
We just don't know.
But WE don't care anyways. So, there you go.
That's bullshit
what a joke this government is!
No. They are serious about it.
The jokes are on us.
We are the Jokers ...
It's almost like Turdeau is trying to leave Canada defenseless when he leaves...
I think thats part of his agenda. He's sending all of OUR money to his pet peeves.
Goes along with destroying the economy .
Military budget went up by 2bln under 11 years of Harper and 10 bln under 8 of JT, you just know nothing like every conservative diareah spewer
I'm not a Conservative, they're just as bad. I just don't buy the Lib-dribble either.
How much could $9.5b help this country (Military and non-military included)? Instead he (proudly?) gave it to another country's military while our own soldiers are suffering abroad (the whole Latvia equipment shortage in June?).
I think we can both agree that none of our country's political parties have the best interests of the average Canadian citizen as the core of their priorities.
It’s so he has something to pitch for the next election
Only Justin would think cutting the defense budget is needed when the world is closest to the next major conflict. Dude has to be a saboteur for it to make sense.
That's what I've been saying. While Justine is no intellectual giant, there's no way he/she can be this incompetent. He/she is literally trying to destroy our country. I'm not 100% sure what has to happen but we can't let this continue.
Don't you get it?! If we can't afford war then war won't happen! Justin is truly playing 5d chess right now.
working for china no doubt
@@johnyliltoeis that drama teacher logic? niiiice
@@johnyliltoe This has to be sarcasm, unless you believe Canada has more power and influence on the world stage than it actually has.
Wonder what the 9 Billion borrowed and given to the Ukraine could have done for the Canadian military or just Canadians in general .
I’m sorry but as military members are struggling and equipment is aging, I just find this tone deaf and highly concerning that this is being even considered. This likely will also be further harmful to the image of the Liberals.
Hey agree with you and is an average everyday candan I think we should be increasing spending and find the proper equipment and replacing old hardware and so on. And also expanding our military in the hardware department. Not saying this is true cross the board but it's worse than when it was when I was young in the 90s. All branches of the armed forces need to increase spending and also simplified procurement so they can actually get their job done and get the hardware men and material we need. I am a firm believer that Canada should be meeting and exceeding NATO Target of 2.5% of GDP spending should probably be more towards the 3% or more to make up for decades of short. Across every branch
Struggling with what? We're paying the Ukrainians to fight for us
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@@micah1337we average Canadians must let our MPs know that this IS important.
I am a 20+ year veteran of the CAF, and I spent a number of postings working in headquarters in Ottawa. Politicians of all parties see the military as an easy target for finding cuts (both the liberals and conservatives as was done in 2014), because most Canadians are not concerned about defence and security. The reality has been that with the end of the Cold War Canada cashed in on the peace dividend, but as the OP stated, the international situation is deteriorating and as you stated, we need to update and boost all branches.
I firmly believe that the majority of Canadians support national defence and our military, but we need to make it clear to the politicians of all parties that they need to actually put the money into defence.
@@carlyar5281 yes and i have always felt that, the armed forces have been done dirty when we should have maintained the nato 2.5 if not more. We can not always rely on the US and others.
I think Canada should invest in Canada invest and make what we need here. I know its hard but if done right you make jobs and grow the economy and the forces. More of a win win even if it cost a bit more.
Here's an idea stop giving money to other countries and concentrate on ours!
Like funding gas pipelines in Asia.
Exactly. Every country should follow those guidelines. Thanks for your perfect comment.
that is against liberal ideology.
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How very un-Marxist.
That kind of talk is not acceptable.
We are a joke around the world.
It is who we are, as Justin loves to say.
I quit loving this place a long time ago. Just go with the flow I guess.
This is just insane.
its like when canada slashed the AVRO program
The Conservatives slashed the Program the Workers bailed went south and Started working for NASA , I don't hear any new Promises from Either Government.
AVro Arrow. we had our own home grown produced interceptor jets.....then years later we bought some from the states for more then it would have cost to make our own XD@@tw8060
They've gone mad. How can you cut from an already struggling department. Where is all the money going, there needs to be a white paper on government expenses.
Ukraine and climate change
Defence spending should be separate from Government ... steady budget with results expected from MOD
Wtf is he talking about? Turkey is not a laggard, it is one of the biggest defense spenders at 3.5%!! 3x Canadas!!
I really don't understand this. How are we giving money to Ukraine and we can't fund our own military??? Is that where they're getting the money for Ukraine from? Is the Ukraine money coming out of our military budget? Really??
It is rather simple, every weapon "given" to Ukraine is one that Canadians soldiers will not have to fire if Russia vanquish Ukraine and moves on to NATO countries. Remember Germany in WWII, it did not stop with Czechoslovakia, or Poland, or the Baltic countries or France. It went on to Russia, Africa and they even declared war on the USA. We can send weapons to Ukraine now, and hopefully stop Russia there, or send weapons and our children later.
@@yl9154you and Mike Pense constantly need to be reminded that the Soviet Union is no more
You "don't understand this" because you aren't very smart. We buy new guns, we send old guns to Ukrainian for "free", we call that both military spending and military funding Ukraine, so if we turn over 1 billion in guns we actually bought 1 billion and donated 1 billion.
@@xToxicNinjax lol you don't understand rhetorical questions
Look. ALL our military combined couldn't defend the smallest county in PEI for a week. Especially if the corner stores run out of food in the defended area.
It is/ has always/ been just a joke.
As Justin always says: 'it is who we are'
Or send 1 billion less to Ukraine. Is it smart to spend money antagonizing Putin and then at the same time cutting our defence budget?
Or defund the 1.2 billion the CBC gets.
A billion sent to Ukraine where it degrades RuZZian capacity is worth 5billion spent here. We can afford to support Ukraine and build up our forces. Only a liberal would disagree.
BINGO!!!
DISGUSTING is the only thing I can think of.
There's unfortunately a mass pocket of smooth brained Canadians that think we don't need nor know we even have a military.
Want to tackle the issue, let's start fixing our education system.
This cut is reopening an old wound! Justin Trudeau’s vision of Canada’s defence strategy is “team Barbie”! The Canadian Armed Forces are underfunded, unappreciated, unvalued and mismanaged by the Justin Trudeau liberal government. If Justin Trudeau, and all of his ministers, would have serve in any operational capacity within the Canadian Armed Forces, his priorities would be otherwise. The equipment is limited, outdated and scarce. When troops are deployed they lack basic necessities… including food! Justin Trudeau’s liberals are out of touch!
Right on, yet he and Freeland have sent billions to Ukraine ! They must be lining their own pockets while they empty ours !
Canada's armed forces are irrelevant on every stage, in every theatre
When you watch the interview, Rosemarie asked retired Gen Lawson about cuts made in 2014. Those cuts had a big impact, and those were done by Harper and the conservatives before they got voted out in 2015. Funding and investment in the national defence not increased since but there was some optimism with the last minister of defence… until she was removed in the last shuffle. Now these announced cuts demonstrate that the liberals just like the conservatives don’t actually give a damn about national defense.
Russia has proven how weak it is. EU not a threat. US would role Canada even if Canada spent 100% of GDP on military so no point in trying to defend ourselves from them. US will fight China and doesn't need our help. The rest is counter terrorism operations.
We need to vote now not 2025!
Seriously, 4 years is long enough for some of these clowns
I thought Canada was increasing military spending
And we all know that this current bunch of losers would NEVER lie to us ,right?
Rigggght
Yeh... To Ukraine!
Where did Canada find the money to send to Ukraine ? Cutting their own defence budget.
In times we live in, it is totally unacceptable to cut any of the defense budget. In fact they need to increase spending.
you don't get it, we are sending it to ukraine
Russia has proven how weak it is. EU not a threat. US would role Canada even if Canada spent 100% of GDP on military so no point in trying to defend ourselves from them. US will fight China and doesn't need our help. The rest is counter terrorism operations.
Your govt. literally made three giants ( China, India, Russia) angry recently , and now decreasing the defence budget, even though you don't have defence capabilities even near to them , wowww, what a time to be alive 👏👏
We're not even at war
@@Bhsh-Yes we know, you're Indian. India better not poke the Canadian bear. In WW2 we were top 5 strongest militaries.
Canada has no place in Nato. What happed to the rule based order?
We need to add to defense spending, not cut it!
I'm all for increasing defense spending as well as aid to Ukraine. However, is the aid to Ukraine partly the reason for the cuts being made? We've been sending equipment and providing training NATO forces for the last year and a half. After a major pandemic. Are we just tapped in terms of defense spending?
When you more than double the National debt in 8 years (over a half trillion dollars), 9 Billion is minor. Also, by funding Ukraine we are getting defence against Russia on the cheap and without direct danger to us.
The Entire budget needs an overhaul, down to the finances of each department.
Our interest payments on that debt are now greater than what the federal government transfers in health care funding to the provinces.
This is what bad planning and a lack of understanding of economics or even basic household budgeting really show.
Promises 1bn to Ukraine while cutting 1bn from our military….
That’s a great investment. It’s the other stuff the government wastes money on that is the problem.
Good joke CBC! It's not?
Canada out sorced most of the military to the USA starting in about 1957-1964 when defense spending went from about 5% of GDP to about 2.5% of GDP. It was the deal that the US pressured Canada into accepting in 1957-1964. Canada agreed. The US wanted to have the bulk of military spending and responsibility and wanted all of the military manufacturing. Since 1959, Canada buys pretty much all of its major military hardware from the USA. Canada’s military spending went down to 2% of GDP by about 1965 and since the 1970s has been around 1% of GDP. Whether you vote Liberal, Conservative, NDP or Bloc Québécois , we all should be putting pressure for more funding to Defence.
Canada should consider some production for defence within Canada as it would create jobs within Canada and be less costly than having to purchase from other countries.
Having a good defence is a deterrence of would be attackers. Russia under Putin had made previous claims to the North Pole. Then in April 2021 Putin formally enlarged its claim to the seabed in the Arctic Ocean all the way to Canada's and Greenland's (Denmark's) exclusive zones. A situation where they're claiming Canadian and Danish continental shelf as the Russian continental shelf. With the ice retreating in the Arctic Putin wants control of the Arctic for the natural resources and the Northeast Sea Trade Route. Putin has demanded all ships traversing thru Arctic get permission from Russia and use Russian pilots. In 2018 Beijing agreed it would cooperate with Russia on a new Arctic silk route, signing 20 bilateral documents and agreeing to invest in the region. As part of this Beijing will build several Chinese docks across Russia's north in ports.
Why ? bcoz you have America to defend you?
Literally the only logic I can make of this. Not going to pretend Canada isn't always going to rely on the US for protection being such a spread out and non-populous country, but we have a commitment to uphold.
@@johnyliltoewe have deals to make, more like
We're at a pretty good spot for looking at switching patrons from US to china, and we should make out like bandits with whoever has more to offer
Unbelievable. Hard times . Economically 2023 was expected to be the worse but experts say not until 2025 we may see an improvement.
Other experts in the sciences are saying that solar storm cycles over the long term during last century and more so in this century are now much harder to predict too. Good thing no one in Canada is blaming mother nature for that too while wanting everybody here to fight for only mother Canada during her unification through military exercises. Oh well. More money in Canada for scientific expeditions in the North only for now too.
I think the timing is kind of rotten.This is a time for more protection not less.
It's cute you think f35s or some redneck with a gun, will stop nukes form burning everyone in the country alive.
What about our pledge to NATO to spend 2% of GDP?
we're the biggest military freeloaders to ever exist
It's an exchange. We could do something other than support the US, and the US bribes us I'm exchange.
But it's a bribe that's also a threat. We don't need to pay to threaten ourselves
lets peacefully go to Ottawa and show our disappointment with this.
So we can cut 1b to our protection but give how much to Ukraine ?
The price of a new “ battery plant “ is just over a billion. The Maritimes still need their pre- election bribe now that Ontario and Quebec are taken care of. I wonder if Halifax could use a “ battery plant “ ?
They need a sewer plant. Did that boondoggle ever get finished?
Bedford Basin 'brown trout' season just finished.
The CBC budget is 1.6 billion a year. I would cut a billion off of that.
This is deeply disappointing but not a surprise as Blair was appointed. The military is not just search and rescue, its a commitment to our allies and an assertion of sovereignty.
How's Canada buying a couple more tanks or US planes gonna defend Canadian sovereignty from the Americans in the north west passage?
It's useless
Word on the street in Defence circles is that Anita Annan was actually doing a good job as MND and advocating for national defence in cabinet. Rumour has it that she brought the long-awaited defence review to cabinet, with the price tag, shortly before the cabinet shuffle when she was replaced by Blair.
I’m not at all surprised to see this shortly after Blair comes in as MND. He probably rolled right over.
Well, Ukraine's Zelenskyy walked away with $650 million (CAD), and that's got to reflect on the budget somewhere right?
9 billion.
What!? We give billions to other countries…. We live in crazy town right now. Our troops needs more money.
WT actual F i get don increase budget but to cut back while you give 500 mill to Ukrain?
Hell yeah we gat permanent fund for Ukrain but not our own defence 🤦♂️
Give a billion from the cbc to the Canadian military!
Defund CBC first
We should be upping our game in defense spending, not lowering it, how can our troops do their jobs, how it is supposed to be done without the proper equipment, only Trudeau would find a way to mess up the country even more. cutting defense spending when we do not spend enough is just plainly stupidity at its finest.
is trudeau living in a different planet? i don’t get it
His own
Very odd this is happening-not good at all.
Thank you for making Ukrainian officials very rich
We should be copying Poland and making sure that we can supply Ukraine while maintains our own defence needs
We’re cutting the budget again?!?
I’m sorry but as Canadian citizens are struggling and disabilities are suffering, I just find this tone deaf and highly concerning that this is being even argued? This likely will also be further beneficial to the election of the NDP.
Not likely as many see the NDP as Trudeau lackies. Willing to toe the Trudeau line for a bit of power.
Even the NDP realizes that the military needs to be sufficiently funded. Especially when these cuts are targeting personnel.
This is dumb! Meanwhile Canadians are paying $650 million to Ukraine every year!
HTG, we should be investing in the Military, NOT cutting a BILLION from the DEFENCE BUDGET! Not Good Enough !
And will give this money to Ukraine people good job 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Shaking My Head srsly 😐.
If Canada was to go into conflict without intervention against, let’s say Australia or India or North Korea for example right now, we all know who’s assess will be handed to them.
I’m a LIBERAL, voted for Trudeau twice but cutting our military budget while we’re supposed to increase it is ridiculous! I’m slowly drifting away from the Liberal party!
You should. You’d be a fool to vote liberals again.
Twice? And now cause he cutting military funding you don’t want to vote for them? Wow take your head out of the sand the liberals are ruining Canada
And NDP
@@marilynhaley7033 NDP sold out their party in favour of the Liberals. Lots of NDP supporters I know are very mad about it. One even told me “we might as well have conservatives in office because Trudeau is just as bad”
I'd be running! They have robbed Canadians blind!
We just shrink our economy and boom 2% GDP and $1B in cuts. Target achieved!
Pathetic Move. Stop sending the Money to Ukraine. We should look to increase our defense spending in line with our Income
Good work Turdeau!
If their is a War just send Trudeau and his team for special operations
Cut 100,000 federal employee, that will be easily 10 billion dollar every year.
Why dont we spend money on our own military instead of other countries?
In these stressfull times they should get more ... nevermind cutting budget
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Why you gave then 650mil to Ukraine give that to our military
Australia has 13 million less people, and spends 2% gdp 53billion Aus. thats 47.7 billion Canadian. we have almost exactly the same number of personnel, we both have huge coastlines, we both deal with extreme temperatures, and we use quite a bit of the same gear. Canada currently spends 36.5 billion Canadian and 1.29 % of our GDP.
The way things are going, soon Canada won't have any armed forces to speak of. Shame.
When will we think about Canada First?
Peace always prevails under the shadow of swords, until our internal security and defense are strong we can forget about being a democracy.
What Mr Zelenski things about that? Does he demand any cut from the budget?
CANADA is 1st. Canadian = 1st.
Protect Our People. Protect Our Land. Protect Our Kids Future.
STOP GREED = CORRUPTION = FRAUD = MONEY LAUNDERING.
Truly a head-scratcher I’ll say, he pissed off the Russians, the Indians, soon possibly NATO and now our own military and threatens Canada’s defence capabilities…
I would rather cut 1 billion from the CBC!
That's because you have more teeth than IQ points. The vast majority of support has been retired or obsolete equipment dug out of CAF storage. If anything, it's save the cost of disposal in come cases.
@@PopulismIsForBottomFeeders I don't have any teeth 😬, can't afford them because half my pay goes to taxes to fund a war that I want no part of. 😅
Let’s cut our defence budget so we can fund Ukraines defence budget. Nothing against Ukraine but just shows how incompetent our leaders are in planning.
Ho ho... It is NOT 1/10 jobs... It is more than that...
Most reserve units are at 60% capacity.
Just Send it all oversees instead, easier to back door it to friends and family.
We should take one billion from Trudeau salary to pay for defense budget. If he will to give 9.6 billion dollars away for other country defence.
That’s awful .
You save enough to send every Canadian $26.14!
WTF? Canada is supposed to be increasing its defence budget right now to meet NATO guidelines, not decreasing it.
Re-arm the Haida.
A good refit should do the trick.
We have those subs to escort it around lake Ontario.
Unless this 1 B is used on F35. I don't see any difference. Remember those local made warships? Such a joke.
Cuts can come from the huge number of staff in a huge building in Ottawa. More people here than involved on the ground. Also stay out of Europe and places we do not have to be. Europe can look after itself. Defend Canada not the EU
Let's stop sending billions overseas and support our own country and peoples!
Ranked 27th in the world and heading in the wrong direction.
What Happened to Canada’s NATO Commitment .. 🙄
Wayne Eyre needs to make a statement about his trained seal performance in parliament.
Harp seal.
Group think
@@marynancy1187 A fatal flaw in a military leader.
On purpose
Well can’t blame anyone except everyone who voted this clown in. And the media who condoned JT policies when faced with criticism.
You always say Canada is the leader, what kind of leader it is? Actually if you want to against China, 9B isn't making any difference, so it's not a big deal.
Wait, what??
This video is 10 days old we should not be putting a budget Canadian armed forces there's the incident and Ukraine going on right now and the incident Israel can't protect Canadian we are not willing to put resources towards our national security Canadian armed forces.
good! if we our PM is giving money away, glad someone is like nah, HOLD UP, STOP
Stop sending money to Ukraine, and other countries, and focus on the needs of Canadians.
stop giving money to other nations and start spending on your own necessities