Two minutes in and I feel you've given me a gift. I've got new, high-dollar Festool sanders, a wide-belt sander, a 12" disc sander, and a stationary 6 x 48" sander. Now I'll have a use for one of the disused palm sanders hidden away, along with their abrasives in some repurposed lateral file drawer. Thank you!
There is another trick to applying patterns to wood. Use a laser printer. Print reversed and IRON the back of the paper. The iron reheats the fused toner and plops it right on the surface.
Great idea. Slight modification if you need to take the sander out regularly might be to use some insert nuts so have something solid to screw into each time which won't become loose over time like the holes straight into wood will. I have used these in access panels for the boiler boxing in etc and they are really easy to fit and take away the issues of removing and reattaching things.
Along with wax paper, every woodshop needs a can of Bondo. It is cheap, keeps for decades, and the harder is available separately for very little money.
Hi Peter, great idea and well executed. Here's another little addition. Squaring the ends of battens etc, has always been tricky, especially when trying to avoid spelching. A 90 degree sliding fence, referenced off the front edge of the table, will make make light work of this task.
Thanks Steve! And yes, a simple clamped-on fence will do the job, and you could take it further and make the table angle-adjustable too, depending on your needs of course. 👍👍
Great idea. I need to try this. I don't have a dedicated disc-sander so this might be very helpful. I am just about to spend more time in the shop as daylight time is getting shorter and shorter. Till now had the the plan to put my corded hand drill in a vice with a sanding disc construction mounted in the chuck. Now I have two things to try out and compare. Thanks to you for sharing the video and to Rob for the idea.
Brilliant idea and execution. If you’re taking the sander out a lot for other uses and the screws work loose a cross dowel and bolt fixing for the top would be a more durable solution.
Peter shows us yet another way to skin that cat! Thanks. (After I just today filed my thumb nail on my 6” x 99” wide belt oscillating belt sander, glad I had 400 grit on!)
Hi Peter. I have to say (and you probably hear this a lot) but these videos really are incredibly helpful. Highly watchable, highly informative, and the review videos can be a god send. I've made a ton of jigs for my workshop, mostly from videos such as this, and they're so helpful. I am in the fortunate position (albeit after an incredible amount of hard work) of owning and running my own independent timber merchant, which also offers a bespoke joinery service for all manner of commissions. I've always worked in the building trade but joinery is my main background and love. You're videos have helped me choose many of the tools for my ever growing workshop, festool domino, band saws, routers, dust units, and everything in between. I enjoy your honest opinion and information, and you seem to have a similar view on tools as I do. There's an awful lot of snobbery and bitterness about tools, but quite simply it's all relevant. If the job warrants it, and you can justify costs, then tools such as festool for example are worth their weight in gold, ie the domino, and I've just taken stock of the rotex 150 (wow). If not, then there are great cheap tools available, and I'm certainly not opposed to that, I have the titan bandsaw and a couple of other 'cheap bits' that work just fine. As I said earlier, I'm in a good position for these tools to pay for themselves, and I think that's a great argument for tools and one I'd love to see a video about, it's often about relevance to what you're doing. My trend t11 router paid for itself within the week, but years gone by I simply couldn't warrant the cost. I suppose my point is (and I realise I'm going on a bit ha ha) is that I hear a lot of negativity regarding festool prices for example, except some of the tools are quite remarkable, and often can quite easily pay for themselves relatively quickly. I'm not precious about any single brand, I love my dewalt drills, my trend router, festool domino and sander, titan bandsaw, and then some older more industrial tools, wallsaw and crosscut etc. So this is not a 'festool fanboy' post, more the point of 'relevant tools'. Anyway, I've gone on long enough, and I realise my post is not particularly relevant to the video, but I've been meaning to drop you a comment, just so happens to be on this video. Keep up the great work Peter, and if you're ever up north west way, come and pay us a visit! Ben
Wow, Ben, thanks so much for taking the time to make a comment like this! I can't tell you how much I appreciate the feedback, especially from guys in the trade like yourself. It pays to be brand-neutral - but also not to get hung up on 'best' - whatever works for *you* is best! My family's in cheshire - whereabouts in the NW are you? Cheers for now, Peter 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm in Lytham St. Annes just near Blackpool and I run Lytham Timber. Fylde Coast fencing is the manufacturing side of it. I may well do the odd video myself when I get the time, I'll be sure to get in touch if I get round to it 👍
I just built something similar last week independently. Just an old random orbit sander inverted even though I have a disc sander it produces a nicer finish less aggressively.
Very cool! I've never thought of that before. In my highschool woodshop class we would build lots of curved pieces like heart shaped jewelry boxes... The best way to sand weird shapes like curves is actually to turn the sander upside down in a jig and bring the piece to the sander. But I never thought of turning it 90°!
Thanks! Yes, before I made this I’d just clamp the sander to the bench - actually worked pretty well, but obviously you don’t get a table to bear against. 🤷♂️👍👍
Very clever! You’ve earned my subscription with this video. 😎 All kidding aside, your videos are quite good and well thought out. It is much appreciated for someone like me who is just getting onto woodworking. 👍
Love this idea, it's a great use for an 'old' sander! I went down the route of making a plywood disc for my table saw with heavy duty sandpaper glued on - but this is great for those without the space, as you said 👍
Great (simple idea) which has many applications - when I get home (to the COVID lunatic asylum😳) from sailing in Greece 😎⛵️ I am going to jump to it and make similar for my Bosch belt sander.😀👍
Well done. I did something similar with a second-hand 9 inch variable speed angle grinder. Can use it for grinding, polishing (wood and metal) as well as sanding. Dust extraction is not within cooee of yours.
@@10MinuteWorkshop Believe it or not I have the ,,I've got it somewhere,, downunder. I wonder if it is one of those invasive species came over with blackberries, rabbits and foxes
Well Peter, my mind is blown too. How fast that was to implement :) I reckon I'll make up one myself for my cheapo AEG ROS. the disc sander station I have is no substitute for this so far at getting the surface clean and accurate. Suffering Festool envy too, seeing you pull out old tools like that :) (but not for long, got my order in for a DF500 Domino as of yesterday and looking forward to some small cabinetry work next month.)
Thanks Rob! Brilliant idea, thank you, and good to hear you approve! To be fair I was using ‘old’ in the descriptive sense - it’s from 2007 and still my main 6” sander! Thanks again for the initial idea, very much appreciated. 🙌👍👍
I made this hoping it would be the holy grail to speed up sanding a lot of end grain by eliminating the sanding lines inherent with a belt sander. Unfortunately, trying to use this on hardwood like maple did not work well at all.
I was wondering why the notification I got for the live build led to nowhere! I have a spare Parkside sander that I got working after LIDL sent me a replacement, this seems like a good use for it!
Very good i did something similar for my belt sander a few years ago ...... but iam going to copy this for an orbital sander ...... if you don't mind .... cheers mate 👍
You bet I'll give that a thumbs-up ! 👍 Did you ever do a video about the pro's and con's of the various types of sanders ? I own a Bosch "mouse" type , a Bosch flatfoot (for lack of a better name) and a Bosch belt sander. Would my work benefit from a random orbital sander ?
Hi, and thanks! Yes, take a look at video 356 Which Sander, when? ua-cam.com/video/uBSOan7D1Ow/v-deo.html - should give you a decent idea of which way to go. 👍👍
Hi Peter, you used a Perspex square in this video could you please let me know where you got it or let me know a good make of square. There’s so many out there and such a huge price difference. Really enjoying your videos and many thanks.
Hi Steve. Links are in the video description: Mirock square - etsy.me/2MC0RT. These are lovely, made by Vladimir @Mirock's Toolworks out in the Ukraine 👌Great channel, great squares - and other things too! Highly Recommended, and a big step up from the usual 'speedsquare' you see so often. 👍📐
That's a great idea. I was just wondering how well it performed compared to the purpose built tool? It looked like it mostly did the job but the randomness stopped it being quite as directed?
Thanks! As I say I don’t have a disc & belt sander to compare it to, but it’s certainly not going to be as aggressive as a spinning disc - but that’s kind of the point ; I’d say it’s for finishing off the edges of small parts, not for grinding an oversize piece back to a line. 👍👍
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WOW, ingenious and cheap to build! How could I possibly hope for more!?
A rare channel where I know I can hit the like button before watching the whole video, and never have to change my mind.
thanks Peter.
Wait what - you can change your mind?? 😱😂😂And thanks!👍👍
Two minutes in and I feel you've given me a gift. I've got new, high-dollar Festool sanders, a wide-belt sander, a 12" disc sander, and a stationary 6 x 48" sander. Now I'll have a use for one of the disused palm sanders hidden away, along with their abrasives in some repurposed lateral file drawer. Thank you!
Glad to hear it! 👍👍
There is another trick to applying patterns to wood. Use a laser printer. Print reversed and IRON the back of the paper. The iron reheats the fused toner and plops it right on the surface.
Great idea. Slight modification if you need to take the sander out regularly might be to use some insert nuts so have something solid to screw into each time which won't become loose over time like the holes straight into wood will. I have used these in access panels for the boiler boxing in etc and they are really easy to fit and take away the issues of removing and reattaching things.
Saved me a huge amount of money, in buying a new sanding equipment. Thanks.
Thank you! 👍👍
Along with wax paper, every woodshop needs a can of Bondo. It is cheap, keeps for decades, and the harder is available separately for very little money.
So simple yet so effective Peter, love it mate.👍
Thanks David! 👍
Hi Peter, great idea and well executed. Here's another little addition. Squaring the ends of battens etc, has always been tricky, especially when trying to avoid spelching. A 90 degree sliding fence, referenced off the front edge of the table, will make make light work of this task.
Thanks Steve! And yes, a simple clamped-on fence will do the job, and you could take it further and make the table angle-adjustable too, depending on your needs of course. 👍👍
Great idea. I need to try this. I don't have a dedicated disc-sander so this might be very helpful. I am just about to spend more time in the shop as daylight time is getting shorter and shorter. Till now had the the plan to put my corded hand drill in a vice with a sanding disc construction mounted in the chuck. Now I have two things to try out and compare.
Thanks to you for sharing the video and to Rob for the idea.
Thanks Hans! 👍
Brilliant idea and execution. If you’re taking the sander out a lot for other uses and the screws work loose a cross dowel and bolt fixing for the top would be a more durable solution.
Got to be one of my favourite videos in some time Peter. thanks again for sharing all of your knowledge.
Thank you! 👍👍
Peter shows us yet another way to skin that cat! Thanks.
(After I just today filed my thumb nail on my 6” x 99” wide belt oscillating belt sander, glad I had 400 grit on!)
Ouch! Be happy it was only the nail! 😬👍👍
Peter Millard - Yes quite pleased. It needed trimming anyway. That 3HP motor really eats!
Be safe.
Hi Peter. I have to say (and you probably hear this a lot) but these videos really are incredibly helpful. Highly watchable, highly informative, and the review videos can be a god send. I've made a ton of jigs for my workshop, mostly from videos such as this, and they're so helpful.
I am in the fortunate position (albeit after an incredible amount of hard work) of owning and running my own independent timber merchant, which also offers a bespoke joinery service for all manner of commissions. I've always worked in the building trade but joinery is my main background and love.
You're videos have helped me choose many of the tools for my ever growing workshop, festool domino, band saws, routers, dust units, and everything in between.
I enjoy your honest opinion and information, and you seem to have a similar view on tools as I do. There's an awful lot of snobbery and bitterness about tools, but quite simply it's all relevant. If the job warrants it, and you can justify costs, then tools such as festool for example are worth their weight in gold, ie the domino, and I've just taken stock of the rotex 150 (wow).
If not, then there are great cheap tools available, and I'm certainly not opposed to that, I have the titan bandsaw and a couple of other 'cheap bits' that work just fine.
As I said earlier, I'm in a good position for these tools to pay for themselves, and I think that's a great argument for tools and one I'd love to see a video about, it's often about relevance to what you're doing. My trend t11 router paid for itself within the week, but years gone by I simply couldn't warrant the cost. I suppose my point is (and I realise I'm going on a bit ha ha) is that I hear a lot of negativity regarding festool prices for example, except some of the tools are quite remarkable, and often can quite easily pay for themselves relatively quickly.
I'm not precious about any single brand, I love my dewalt drills, my trend router, festool domino and sander, titan bandsaw, and then some older more industrial tools, wallsaw and crosscut etc. So this is not a 'festool fanboy' post, more the point of 'relevant tools'.
Anyway, I've gone on long enough, and I realise my post is not particularly relevant to the video, but I've been meaning to drop you a comment, just so happens to be on this video. Keep up the great work Peter, and if you're ever up north west way, come and pay us a visit!
Ben
Wow, Ben, thanks so much for taking the time to make a comment like this! I can't tell you how much I appreciate the feedback, especially from guys in the trade like yourself. It pays to be brand-neutral - but also not to get hung up on 'best' - whatever works for *you* is best! My family's in cheshire - whereabouts in the NW are you?
Cheers for now, Peter 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm in Lytham St. Annes just near Blackpool and I run Lytham Timber. Fylde Coast fencing is the manufacturing side of it. I may well do the odd video myself when I get the time, I'll be sure to get in touch if I get round to it 👍
I just built something similar last week independently. Just an old random orbit sander inverted even though I have a disc sander it produces a nicer finish less aggressively.
Genius idea. Thanks for sharing!!
Well done Peter. You are an expert.
Thank you! 👍
Very cool! I've never thought of that before. In my highschool woodshop class we would build lots of curved pieces like heart shaped jewelry boxes... The best way to sand weird shapes like curves is actually to turn the sander upside down in a jig and bring the piece to the sander.
But I never thought of turning it 90°!
Thanks! Yes, before I made this I’d just clamp the sander to the bench - actually worked pretty well, but obviously you don’t get a table to bear against. 🤷♂️👍👍
This is a great magic trick, can you let us in on how you were able to get your hands on the baltic birch ply?
Old vid! 👍
Very clever! You’ve earned my subscription with this video. 😎 All kidding aside, your videos are quite good and well thought out. It is much appreciated for someone like me who is just getting onto woodworking. 👍
Thanks, and welcome! 'quite good' is all I aspire to, lol! 😂 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop my aspirations are simple “above average” 😆 cheers from your cousins in America.
Thanks for the share Peter. Great simple video. Can't wait to have a go.
Cheers Ian! 👍👍
Brilliant! Thanks Peter, stay safe,
Cheers Paul, you too! 👍
That's good, and an obvious extension when you think about it. Lateral thinking is quite something.
Miroc would make that out of aluminum with ball-detent vernier table adjustment.
But I prefer this :-)
😆👍👍
Love this idea, it's a great use for an 'old' sander! I went down the route of making a plywood disc for my table saw with heavy duty sandpaper glued on - but this is great for those without the space, as you said 👍
Very nice & simple. I bought the ferrex belt & orbital sander about 2 years ago. €100. Not to big, brilliant machine, but boy is it heavy.
Yeah, that’s the biggest issue with them. Don’t need to hit the gym after moving one of those around! 😂💪👍
Wham bam thank ya ma'am, too easy, mate.👍🏽
Great space saver. 👌🏽
Thanks Bill! 👍👍
Cool idea for a Brit! 🏴
😂👍👍
Great (simple idea) which has many applications - when I get home (to the COVID lunatic asylum😳) from sailing in Greece 😎⛵️ I am going to jump to it and make similar for my Bosch belt sander.😀👍
Thanks Norman, sounds nice! Love Greece, sailed there a lifetime ago (BC - before children). Enjoy! ☀️😎🍻
Yeah that's what I'm talking about, good job boss.
👍
Well done. I did something similar with a second-hand 9 inch variable speed angle grinder. Can use it for grinding, polishing (wood and metal) as well as sanding. Dust extraction is not within cooee of yours.
Great idea! I have a 9” angle grinder somewhere... 🤔👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Believe it or not I have the ,,I've got it somewhere,, downunder. I wonder if it is one of those invasive species came over with blackberries, rabbits and foxes
I bet today was just as exhausting as your last big install 😂😂😂👍👍
More so I think Leo! 🤷♂️👍
Good evening a very interesting and useful tool. Thanks
Thanks! 👍👍
Well Peter, my mind is blown too. How fast that was to implement :)
I reckon I'll make up one myself for my cheapo AEG ROS. the disc sander station I have is no substitute for this so far at getting the surface clean and accurate.
Suffering Festool envy too, seeing you pull out old tools like that :) (but not for long, got my order in for a DF500 Domino as of yesterday and looking forward to some small cabinetry work next month.)
Thanks Rob! Brilliant idea, thank you, and good to hear you approve! To be fair I was using ‘old’ in the descriptive sense - it’s from 2007 and still my main 6” sander! Thanks again for the initial idea, very much appreciated. 🙌👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Loved the way you amped up the idea. i would have just clamped the first one on the side of my bench :)
Rob Robertson That’s what I usually do! 😂👍
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Thanks! 👍
Great idea.
Thanks Frits! 👍
I made this hoping it would be the holy grail to speed up sanding a lot of end grain by eliminating the sanding lines inherent with a belt sander. Unfortunately, trying to use this on hardwood like maple did not work well at all.
Why? Too slow?
That’s very Izzy Swan 💪. Perhaps a trip to the Deed Poll office is in order.
Peter Mallard.
👍👍
I was wondering why the notification I got for the live build led to nowhere!
I have a spare Parkside sander that I got working after LIDL sent me a replacement, this seems like a good use for it!
Yeah, sorry about that. Weather 🤷♂️ Also, sounds like the perfect use for a Lidl sander! 👍👍😆
Very good i did something similar for my belt sander a few years ago ...... but iam going to copy this for an orbital sander ...... if you don't mind .... cheers mate 👍
Please do - better still, improve on it, then share how you did it! 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop ill give it a go
Yours to be fair is probably the most practical way for doing it mate
You bet I'll give that a thumbs-up ! 👍
Did you ever do a video about the pro's and con's of the various types of sanders ? I own a Bosch "mouse" type , a Bosch flatfoot (for lack of a better name) and a Bosch belt sander. Would my work benefit from a random orbital sander ?
Hi, and thanks! Yes, take a look at video 356 Which Sander, when? ua-cam.com/video/uBSOan7D1Ow/v-deo.html - should give you a decent idea of which way to go. 👍👍
Hi Peter, you used a Perspex square in this video could you please let me know where you got it or let me know a good make of square. There’s so many out there and such a huge price difference. Really enjoying your videos and many thanks.
Hi Steve. Links are in the video description: Mirock square - etsy.me/2MC0RT. These are lovely, made by Vladimir @Mirock's Toolworks out in the Ukraine 👌Great channel, great squares - and other things too! Highly Recommended, and a big step up from the usual 'speedsquare' you see so often. 👍📐
Thank you for the reply Peter 👍
That's a great idea. I was just wondering how well it performed compared to the purpose built tool? It looked like it mostly did the job but the randomness stopped it being quite as directed?
Thanks! As I say I don’t have a disc & belt sander to compare it to, but it’s certainly not going to be as aggressive as a spinning disc - but that’s kind of the point ; I’d say it’s for finishing off the edges of small parts, not for grinding an oversize piece back to a line. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for the info, that's useful to know.
I working with micro parts, can you tell me if any manufacture makes a stationary Orbital sander?
No idea I’m sorry. 🤷♂️👍
Neat idea ;-)
Thanks Goran! 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Wow! Your quick ;-) LOL.
😂👍🏁
Now imagine this with a rotex :)
Yeah, absolutely! 👍👍
🤔 bit random 🤣
Brain exploded 🤯 and in orbit 🤭
💥😂👍
👍
Damn!!
Doesn't the strap cover the switch?
Makes it a two-handed power-on, yes. Lots of other ways to fix the sander in place - Velcro straps, zip ties etc... 👍
Bravissimo un saluto da Diego il falegname di impariamo e ripariamo il canale che insegna veramente a lavorare il legno e tra poco ti manda in vacanza vieni a dare un'occhiata a vedere le novità, iscriviti x provare a vincere una Smart box 😉a 1000 iscritti si parte!!!