When I did this one I had to restart the entire chapter because I'd run out of MP with Cait and Cloud by the time I got to here, and you really need magic to beat him. Hadn't yet found your MP/HP absorbing setup, and I also didn't realize I could swap Cloud out in Hard Mode. What a headache.
It literally baffles me people go through 30 hours on hard mode and don’t know you can swap out cloud… the game fucking tells you this immediately when you beat the game.
Yeah I had to provoke Vincent by throwing my weapon with yuffie and praying he kept attacking her while she was spamming brutal form. It really worked though
Already at Chapter 13 and I have sights of beating Hard Mode and Platting Rebirth tonight. Beated the beast first try and I didn’t really use Yuffie on this. Cait only had about 48 MP or so. So yeah I was surprised since I expected to take multiple attempts on this. Did more than fine by using some fire and timing when he’s wide open for attacks.
Just spent an hour and a half fighting this guy. In the end, I swapped out Cloud for Yuffie, following this guide more closely (though I didn't have Gotterdammerung) and managed to beat him on the first try after that. Great guide.
The worst part of this boss is walking up to the tube with cloud Looking forward to playing as him in part 3, because he’ll definitely be just as powerful as he is in this boss fight.
Just barely beat him. Omg. Cait died 1 min in. So it’s just Aerith and yuffie. The rest of the fight I managed to fill up aeriths immunity limit, called and did final move for Gilgamesh, and did yuffies limit when he was staggered as well as supreme art of war. After that aerith died so no time to waste reviving her since he had like two pixels of go left. I survived the whole fight as yuffie due to her quick dodge and brumal form. That ability was the real MVP of the fight.
oh this is really good. i didn’t think about using atb ward, just kind of abused clouds punisher, steadfast block on him. with genji gloves on aerith. but this is so much safer.
You have to watch out if he does Inner Turmoil. Because it'll wipe all your status alignments. He did it to me very early in the fight so I had to restart.
Crazy how these magic strats work against the bosses. I brute forced the overwhelming majority of these fights, including this one. Didn't have Gotterdamerung till Ch 13, so I just did like Magnify Haste, Magnify Manawall and fought a lot of these bosses kinda vanilla. LOTS and LOTS of prayer/chakra uses hahaha.
Dont think ive had to use any healing exclusive materia at all yet in Hard Mode, except for HP Absorption of course. Was the same in Remake for my guides there, think the first Hard fight in remake that I actually made a build involving exclusive healing was the Abzu fight in Chapter 14 think it was. Still yet to find out if I need to exclusively heal for any remaining boss fights
thanks a lot for this guide and all the others✌🏽 just a small note for further videos: (FF7 Reunion 😁) could you please as well shortly show the equipment by clicking in? i am from Germany and the item names are completly different, so its sometimes tricky to find them. I guess it would help out as well all others who are not playing the Game in English. Thanks a lot in advance ✌🏽
Rulers of the outer world vibes! Still one of the most creative builds I’ve seen but couldn’t you finish him faster if you went with Genji gloves? Or is the boss too aggressive you had to go with planets protection?
Soooo… this only really works if you somehow manage to get Cait Sith, Aerith, and Yuffie to this point with enough MP. Feels like a huge oversight to me.
If you dont get here with this much MP, then you wasnt conservative at all with it, that could be seen as the oversight ;) i have a full walkthrough for this chapter ;)
@@Optinooby it’s all good. I managed to get it all done with just Aerith and Yuffie with Cait Sith just providing his limit to be siphoned and haste. Aerith is powerful enough on her own.
If you watch my Rulers video, that breaks down the technique a little more. You essentially set Yuffie up so that Brumal Form with fast ATB so that doesnt cost anything, then she can just spam it in Aeriths ATB Ward generating ATB for everybody
You seriously got through 11 chapters and didn’t realize this? The game fucking tells you when you beat the game, holy shit some of you guys are baffling
@@DOC_951 oh so that's something that unlocked after beating it? I must have missed that. Thanks for telling me, and for not being a dickhead about it!
60 tries later no good stupid ass shit like this makes the game go from a 10 to a 7 basically skill doesn’t matter at all just gotta be lucky asf hope someone start with a limit break and a bunch of other bullshit fuck square and fuck this game
Finally beat it like the 100th try Yuffie and aerith did the trick but I didn’t have any limit breaks so I just had to attack him until I had enough atb to use arcane ward then spam firaga i barely survived yuffie had about 1200 hp cait and aerith ended up dying
@@Optinooby I was able to get it with just the Limit Booster (and a TON of luck, and after several Rage-Quits). Your guides are great man, keep them coming.
I did it before w out but used cloud and not yuffie and had to dance around more and charge up areiths limit to protection. it wasn't as easy and cloud always outta MP for roche fight
@@Piynik think it depends on party beforehand, i actually wasnt entirely sure party could be different on this one. I figured it out on chapter 14 but didnt spend time figuring this out as didnt realise. Would my chapter walkthrough help?
I decided to go through Hard Mode first before doing any of the Brutal & Legendary VR challenges. So no Gotterdamerüng. He took me two tries. I forget the materia loadout, but nothing as strategic as this. The usual suspects: HP, MP, Healing… I don’t think I used First on him. In retrospect I should have. I do recall a lot of blocking/parrying. The fight after this, though. That one took me several attempts. Hard Mode 1v1 battles in this series are notoriously ill designed
I just fought him. No real build except the standard materia. I don’t remember it being too bad. There is lots of RNG to the FF rebirth experience for sure.
As said to a previous comment of yours, just adapt, go and get Gotter, or keep making hard, well harder. Gotter makes Hard easier, but Hard doesnt make Gotter easier, so you have to ask yourself what route you wanna go down. I personally didnt want to make hard even harder for myself because there would always be somebody saying this guide isnt done properly. You dont have Gotter right, but some will come into hard at level 50 straight after story, some will complain they dont have all materia maxed or the same equipment, etc etc So rather than intentionally make things harder, i just go with the easiest approach which is much more absolute. You can have an easiest approach and hardest approach, which i guess covers everybody, though im just doing the easiest. Hardest would be hardly no materia, level 50, no Gotter etc and no, im not doing that. Besides, im too bad to do that
“Unfortunately you have to use Cait Sith” 😂 truer words have never been spoken
When I did this one I had to restart the entire chapter because I'd run out of MP with Cait and Cloud by the time I got to here, and you really need magic to beat him. Hadn't yet found your MP/HP absorbing setup, and I also didn't realize I could swap Cloud out in Hard Mode. What a headache.
That was me
I barely beat him
I only had Aerith left and luckily beat him with like 100 health left!
It literally baffles me people go through 30 hours on hard mode and don’t know you can swap out cloud… the game fucking tells you this immediately when you beat the game.
Yeah I had to provoke Vincent by throwing my weapon with yuffie and praying he kept attacking her while she was spamming brutal form. It really worked though
Me too the same problem 😩 nd he is so fast,,, its not fair that he smash us that way and then he easily accompany the team 😒
Holy you cooked with this one! this was so clean
This boss kicked my ass in hard mode
Took like 10 tries to barely beat him
Already at Chapter 13 and I have sights of beating Hard Mode and Platting Rebirth tonight.
Beated the beast first try and I didn’t really use Yuffie on this. Cait only had about 48 MP or so. So yeah I was surprised since I expected to take multiple attempts on this. Did more than fine by using some fire and timing when he’s wide open for attacks.
Fun one without Aerith's Limit at start but doable, I got it off around phase 2 and luckily everyone was alive.
Just spent an hour and a half fighting this guy. In the end, I swapped out Cloud for Yuffie, following this guide more closely (though I didn't have Gotterdammerung) and managed to beat him on the first try after that. Great guide.
The worst part of this boss is walking up to the tube with cloud
Looking forward to playing as him in part 3, because he’ll definitely be just as powerful as he is in this boss fight.
Nice! Thanks! I wasn’t looking forward to this fight, but with your strategy it was fun!
Easy Win thanks, But I replaced Aerith with Yuffie, because Aerith MP was to low (15), Yuffie Fire attacks were nice too 😀
I did infinite ATB Yuffie with MP Consumption+Fire Aerith and Arcane Ward. Also used Genji Gloves on Aerith.
Commenting before I watch video.
Just barely beat him. Omg. Cait died 1 min in. So it’s just Aerith and yuffie. The rest of the fight I managed to fill up aeriths immunity limit, called and did final move for Gilgamesh, and did yuffies limit when he was staggered as well as supreme art of war. After that aerith died so no time to waste reviving her since he had like two pixels of go left. I survived the whole fight as yuffie due to her quick dodge and brumal form. That ability was the real MVP of the fight.
oh this is really good. i didn’t think about using atb ward, just kind of abused clouds punisher, steadfast block on him. with genji gloves on aerith. but this is so much safer.
Did it 1st try with this, once again super solid strat, thanks!
You have to watch out if he does Inner Turmoil. Because it'll wipe all your status alignments. He did it to me very early in the fight so I had to restart.
Crazy how these magic strats work against the bosses. I brute forced the overwhelming majority of these fights, including this one. Didn't have Gotterdamerung till Ch 13, so I just did like Magnify Haste, Magnify Manawall and fought a lot of these bosses kinda vanilla. LOTS and LOTS of prayer/chakra uses hahaha.
Dont think ive had to use any healing exclusive materia at all yet in Hard Mode, except for HP Absorption of course. Was the same in Remake for my guides there, think the first Hard fight in remake that I actually made a build involving exclusive healing was the Abzu fight in Chapter 14 think it was. Still yet to find out if I need to exclusively heal for any remaining boss fights
@@Optinooby That's awesome. I'm very curious how you will set up the Chapter 14 gauntlet with being forced to spread your materia a lot thinner.
Next game lvl 3 spells will cost 3 atb hehehe😂😂😂
For all those who having issues with MP, you know you can rest at a chocobo stop and get your MP back on hard mode, just saying
thanks a lot for this guide and all the others✌🏽 just a small note for further videos: (FF7 Reunion 😁) could you please as well shortly show the equipment by clicking in? i am from Germany and the item names are completly different, so its sometimes tricky to find them. I guess it would help out as well all others who are not playing the Game in English. Thanks a lot in advance ✌🏽
I will mate, just like I did for the chapter 14 fights
Barely managed to beat him, stil no Gottamerung, like with Gi Nattak.
Ok ok, how did that brumal form/ATB ward trick worked without yuffie's ATB going down?
Best to watch my Rulers vide, all explained there
Rulers of the outer world vibes! Still one of the most creative builds I’ve seen but couldn’t you finish him faster if you went with Genji gloves? Or is the boss too aggressive you had to go with planets protection?
Exactly, needed Planets Protection
The problem is by the time u get here with Cait , most his mp is gone
sounds like you need to follow my chapter walkthrough ;)
When I cast Planet's Protection, I get "no effect," and it misses. Any ideas what's causing that?
@@jacobl.1266 No idea, maybe the boss is casting something which is stopping you?
This set up sort of helped. This battle is a teaching moment because of how aggressive this boss is and how trash cait sith is.
Nice❤
You really enjoy this game
So i use limit siphon but it goes away? Its actually just spliting it between the party and not giving it to just her
Not working the same as im doing?? Do you have, Limit Support materia on her i think its called which gives others your limit?
@@Optinooby I figured it out I had limit assist accidently equipped to aerith, which was splitting it. I'm an idiot. 3 more chapters to go 🤕
Thats it, sorry couldnt remember the name
Soooo… this only really works if you somehow manage to get Cait Sith, Aerith, and Yuffie to this point with enough MP. Feels like a huge oversight to me.
If you dont get here with this much MP, then you wasnt conservative at all with it, that could be seen as the oversight ;)
i have a full walkthrough for this chapter ;)
@@Optinooby it’s all good. I managed to get it all done with just Aerith and Yuffie with Cait Sith just providing his limit to be siphoned and haste. Aerith is powerful enough on her own.
Am I missing something? I spam yuffie's brumal form but her atb just keeps depleting. What benefit does this have?
If you watch my Rulers video, that breaks down the technique a little more. You essentially set Yuffie up so that Brumal Form with fast ATB so that doesnt cost anything, then she can just spam it in Aeriths ATB Ward generating ATB for everybody
this one way easier than cloud build lol used other before but cloud always outta MP for last fight. this one SMOOOOTH
Cloud build?
Oh my f*cking god! You really humiliated Vincent. 😱
What if I don’t have Gotterdamurung?(however you spell it)
improvise ot go and grab it mate
Eh, i did this just fine without the LB. Just take his attention with someone who can drop manawall. Setup the atb farm as usual.
Epic stuff
my limit siphon isnt transffering all of caiths limit to aerith, is that a bug??
she getting interrupted?
Same
You could have limit support on Aerith like I did lol
Easy peasy. Give a lot if bonds of friendship would be as easy....
I was under the impression Cloud always had to be in your party? Apparently not
You seriously got through 11 chapters and didn’t realize this? The game fucking tells you when you beat the game, holy shit some of you guys are baffling
@@DOC_951 oh so that's something that unlocked after beating it? I must have missed that. Thanks for telling me, and for not being a dickhead about it!
Cait sith has 7 mp ig I gotta do the whole chapter over cuz I tried like 30 x I’m using red cloud and cait
60 tries later no good stupid ass shit like this makes the game go from a 10 to a 7 basically skill doesn’t matter at all just gotta be lucky asf hope someone start with a limit break and a bunch of other bullshit fuck square and fuck this game
Finally beat it like the 100th try Yuffie and aerith did the trick but I didn’t have any limit breaks so I just had to attack him until I had enough atb to use arcane ward then spam firaga i barely survived yuffie had about 1200 hp cait and aerith ended up dying
What if I don't have gotterdamerung?
Either adapt, go back and get it, or i guess follow another video my friend
@@Optinooby I was able to get it with just the Limit Booster (and a TON of luck, and after several Rage-Quits).
Your guides are great man, keep them coming.
I did it before w out but used cloud and not yuffie and had to dance around more and charge up areiths limit to protection. it wasn't as easy and cloud always outta MP for roche fight
Fucc this… to much work
He keeps negating my planetary protection!
@@alystyn think he does have a few attacks that go through it
I finally got it. Thank you! Kinda RNG.
huh am I playing the same game? I am locked with Cloud and Barrett
@@Piynik think it depends on party beforehand, i actually wasnt entirely sure party could be different on this one. I figured it out on chapter 14 but didnt spend time figuring this out as didnt realise. Would my chapter walkthrough help?
I decided to go through Hard Mode first before doing any of the Brutal & Legendary VR challenges. So no Gotterdamerüng.
He took me two tries. I forget the materia loadout, but nothing as strategic as this. The usual suspects: HP, MP, Healing… I don’t think I used First on him. In retrospect I should have. I do recall a lot of blocking/parrying.
The fight after this, though. That one took me several attempts. Hard Mode 1v1 battles in this series are notoriously ill designed
I just fought him. No real build except the standard materia. I don’t remember it being too bad. There is lots of RNG to the FF rebirth experience for sure.
Oh yes… let’s just use the gotter… the thing you get for doing the hardest challenge in the game. No one would fucking be here bud.
As said to a previous comment of yours, just adapt, go and get Gotter, or keep making hard, well harder. Gotter makes Hard easier, but Hard doesnt make Gotter easier, so you have to ask yourself what route you wanna go down.
I personally didnt want to make hard even harder for myself because there would always be somebody saying this guide isnt done properly. You dont have Gotter right, but some will come into hard at level 50 straight after story, some will complain they dont have all materia maxed or the same equipment, etc etc
So rather than intentionally make things harder, i just go with the easiest approach which is much more absolute. You can have an easiest approach and hardest approach, which i guess covers everybody, though im just doing the easiest.
Hardest would be hardly no materia, level 50, no Gotter etc and no, im not doing that. Besides, im too bad to do that
Can be done without it.
At the first stagger you should have enough limit for Aerith to siphon and use her limit.
Useless guide
Thank you, give it a dislike my friend and look elsewhere. Quite a few going around so i hope you find the one you need.
I think I got to restart the chapter i have 11MP with Cait Sith lol