I heard these at APOXNA last year. Very imperessive to say the least. HOWEVER, one year later, still a prototype, pinned grill cloth, no news on availability, price, different models, DSP or not, and so on. I love Maggies! I currently use 3.7i's and have owned 5 other pair in my lifetime. My message to Magnepan is either get on with it or quit trying to promote a non existent product. Either it is a commercial reality or it is not.
Axpona last year? Thats almost a year later, maybe they have been developing it still with all of the feedback...I'm going to the Montreal show next weeked, I'll see if there is any Magnepan representation there that I can get more details from! I guess a lot of people are waiting for this given all the promotion.
I agree. Vaporware is impressive in theory, but the product will be quite expensive, and it'll be years before it comes out. I own two pairs of Maggies, but my next pair of speakers will be the Zu Audio Union 6. Efficiency, detail, and airy spaciousness to rival my Maggies, but dynamics to completely blow them away. And they're real speakers. Right now. Not just a fancy proof of concept that's years and thousands of dollars in the future. Zu has enjoyable sound, finesse, detail, and dynamics that must be heard to be believed.
Yes, dynamics of efficient speakers can be quite a drug! I have not heard much from Zu, but I was super impressed with a set of Devore speakers, they are quite efficient as well.
I've owned Maggies since 2001 and currently have the 1.7i. I've heard a lot about those bass units and the sneaky demo😉. Hopefully they'll come to SoCal for some demos.
Hey Tony, if you need some extra bass I think that these are just the ticket. Didn't hear them with Maggies, just the Martin Logans, but I'm sure it will be a similar match. Not sure if you will need another amp to power them or not, still lots of questions!
Hey Doug, yes it for sure has a lot of promise, but im not sure it needs scaling up! The sound levels and impact were very impressive. Possibly another model that digs deeper might be useful, i had limited listening so i didnt hear everything it could do.
I'm from Montreal too....and i own the MG-12 Maggie's !!!! I put some good CARDAS plugs on it and pull out the fuses... and on back of each i have a SVS and PARADIGM powered subs.... the sound now is so crazy good !!!!!!!! :)
Hey KK, I'm so glad that you are happy with your system, you have achieved something that is elusive for so many audiophiles! I love the sound of the Maggies, I heard them first playing Fleetwood mac Dreams powered by a Levinson No. 23 in 1989, and it made such an impression on me, loved them since.
Yes, very good question! I'm going to the Montreal show next month, I'll see if I can get any info then. Don't have any specific contacts at Magnepan but I'll also reach out.
Hi Joseph, Magnepan reached out to me, the system is still in development and will likely be ready later this year! I'll keep on top of it and let you know.
Sounds like mid-bass speakers that are not rolled off in the higher frequencies as much as their last subwoofer speaker. Not sure I would want another set of almost full range speakers sitting in non-balanced areas of the room where the bass is usually the best but not for other frequencies. Interested in hearing for myself.
Yes, integration with the main speakers seems to be a big concern for Magnepan with this product, so hopefully they have some innovative technology to assist with this. Interesting to see where this goes!
@@davelistenstohifi They will not be at Montreal but will be at Axpona. I know they have presentations just for the press but not sure if it is open to the public.
Multiple voice coils in the bass array are likely helping generate the perceived power of the system, without dynamic compression interference interfering with the overall sound quality.
Yes, that will do it, but i'm not sure how those many voice coils will treat the amplifier hooked up to them. The Schiit Vidar run in mono seemed quite capable thouugh.
Magnepans while delivering fantastic sound stage have terrible WAF and are very finicky to be set up & amplified the right way. I ended using them with sustained plateau bias class A monoblocks, unfortunately they were terrible heavy and too much of heat produced when music is on still & speakers themselves should be placed some reasonable distance away from a wall which forms a fragile annoying obstacle in a room, can't be vacuum cleaned and being constantly worried about it is too much of a headache. Bass they delivered was never an issue for me, pipe organ recordings reproduction sounded absolutely fantastic. I am using fullrange DIY and several watts amp nowadays thanks to my previous Maggies experience.
Hi Antitrust, yes Magnepans can be a lot of trouble, the ones who really fall for the sound make it work for them! Full range, dipole and open baffle efficient speakers have a seductive sound as well, I'm just playing with a vintage set of coax Isophon speakers now and they are very interesting! Glad you found something that brings you joy.
Hey FOH, actually stunningly powerful regardless of the physical size. Strong impact and high sound levels created by this 'sub' were unexpected, and this was in a room with 15 people in it. I tried to get this level of sound impact when I got home that evening, I was pushing my 300W amp into my speakers with 3x12" bass drivers per side, and was having trouble getting the same impact.
C’mon man, everyone knows that they are like giant resistors that vibrate and make sound. Horrible speakers low impedance capacitor voltage suckers that load amplifier output stages.
The new add-on woofers from Magnepan are not planar magnetic drivers but instead conventional woofers. No one outside of Magnepan has measured their sensitivity or impedance curve as they have not been put into production.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks, loved the experience !
Kind of makes perfect sense to use it as a center channel, can do double home theatre duty.
Yes, that might be a great application! Weird form factor to make it work, though.
I heard these at APOXNA last year. Very imperessive to say the least. HOWEVER, one year later, still a prototype, pinned grill cloth, no news on availability, price, different models, DSP or not, and so on. I love Maggies! I currently use 3.7i's and have owned 5 other pair in my lifetime. My message to Magnepan is either get on with it or quit trying to promote a non existent product. Either it is a commercial reality or it is not.
Axpona last year? Thats almost a year later, maybe they have been developing it still with all of the feedback...I'm going to the Montreal show next weeked, I'll see if there is any Magnepan representation there that I can get more details from! I guess a lot of people are waiting for this given all the promotion.
I agree. Vaporware is impressive in theory, but the product will be quite expensive, and it'll be years before it comes out. I own two pairs of Maggies, but my next pair of speakers will be the Zu Audio Union 6. Efficiency, detail, and airy spaciousness to rival my Maggies, but dynamics to completely blow them away. And they're real speakers. Right now. Not just a fancy proof of concept that's years and thousands of dollars in the future. Zu has enjoyable sound, finesse, detail, and dynamics that must be heard to be believed.
Yes, dynamics of efficient speakers can be quite a drug! I have not heard much from Zu, but I was super impressed with a set of Devore speakers, they are quite efficient as well.
That's Wendell for you...... And everything is a secret with him lol! Just use eminence open baffle drivers. Easy peasy, Don't wait for this crap.
@@jasonmelo1974 any recommendations for model and mounting?
I've owned Maggies since 2001 and currently have the 1.7i. I've heard a lot about those bass units and the sneaky demo😉. Hopefully they'll come to SoCal for some demos.
Hey Tony, if you need some extra bass I think that these are just the ticket. Didn't hear them with Maggies, just the Martin Logans, but I'm sure it will be a similar match. Not sure if you will need another amp to power them or not, still lots of questions!
If it’s a good design, they can scale this up on different models. Never thought new tech/ breakthrough would be in the subwoofer category.
Hey Doug, yes it for sure has a lot of promise, but im not sure it needs scaling up! The sound levels and impact were very impressive. Possibly another model that digs deeper might be useful, i had limited listening so i didnt hear everything it could do.
I'm from Montreal too....and i own the MG-12 Maggie's !!!! I put some good CARDAS plugs on it and pull out the fuses... and on back of each i have a SVS and PARADIGM powered subs.... the sound now is so crazy good !!!!!!!! :)
Hey KK, I'm so glad that you are happy with your system, you have achieved something that is elusive for so many audiophiles! I love the sound of the Maggies, I heard them first playing Fleetwood mac Dreams powered by a Levinson No. 23 in 1989, and it made such an impression on me, loved them since.
If I have a pair of LSR speakers, is it enough to integrate with just one of their subwoofers?
That's a great question, I'm not sure how they will be sold. No mention of them on their site yet.
love these for my own set up at home 😎
I'm sure they would be a great addition to your system, let's see when they are available!
OK, we've been hearing about the UWB for well over a year now. When is it going to be available?
Yes, very good question! I'm going to the Montreal show next month, I'll see if I can get any info then. Don't have any specific contacts at Magnepan but I'll also reach out.
I reached out to Magnepan, no word from them yet. I don't have any specific contacts there so I may not get a reply but I'll keep checking.
Hi Joseph, Magnepan reached out to me, the system is still in development and will likely be ready later this year! I'll keep on top of it and let you know.
@@davelistenstohifi Cool. Hey....thanks for reaching out and letting me know.
@@davelistenstohifi That's a good news.
i have these exact same speakers in my basement!
Me too
What this could do for classical & strings Also maybe I could afford it. Interested to hear. Spatial cues might be able to be worked out.
Yes, with orchestral music you really get a better sense of space and room when you add the lowest frequencies in.
Sounds like mid-bass speakers that are not rolled off in the higher frequencies as much as their last subwoofer speaker. Not sure I would want another set of almost full range speakers sitting in non-balanced areas of the room where the bass is usually the best but not for other frequencies. Interested in hearing for myself.
Yes, integration with the main speakers seems to be a big concern for Magnepan with this product, so hopefully they have some innovative technology to assist with this. Interesting to see where this goes!
Interesting wonder if they show up at axpona
Yes, I'll be looking for them in Montreal in a few weeks. Will you be going to Axpona?
@@davelistenstohifi They will not be at Montreal but will be at Axpona. I know they have presentations just for the press but not sure if it is open to the public.
Félicitation ! Très apprécié
De rien! Merci d'avoir regardé
Multiple voice coils in the bass array are likely helping generate the perceived power of the system, without dynamic compression interference interfering with the overall sound quality.
Yes, that will do it, but i'm not sure how those many voice coils will treat the amplifier hooked up to them. The Schiit Vidar run in mono seemed quite capable thouugh.
Magnepans while delivering fantastic sound stage have terrible WAF and are very finicky to be set up & amplified the right way. I ended using them with sustained plateau bias class A monoblocks, unfortunately they were terrible heavy and too much of heat produced when music is on still & speakers themselves should be placed some reasonable distance away from a wall which forms a fragile annoying obstacle in a room, can't be vacuum cleaned and being constantly worried about it is too much of a headache. Bass they delivered was never an issue for me, pipe organ recordings reproduction sounded absolutely fantastic. I am using fullrange DIY and several watts amp nowadays thanks to my previous Maggies experience.
Hi Antitrust, yes Magnepans can be a lot of trouble, the ones who really fall for the sound make it work for them! Full range, dipole and open baffle efficient speakers have a seductive sound as well, I'm just playing with a vintage set of coax Isophon speakers now and they are very interesting! Glad you found something that brings you joy.
SVS 3000Micro goes up to 200Hz down to 32Hz!
I guess the question is, does the SVS pair nicely with Magnepan speakers?
So Izzy cooked food 😂
Well, cooked, ordered, is there really a big difference? 😁 Hospitality was there though!
Stunningly powerful?
Or stunningly powerful considering the visual ... the cognitive dissonance?
Hey FOH, actually stunningly powerful regardless of the physical size. Strong impact and high sound levels created by this 'sub' were unexpected, and this was in a room with 15 people in it. I tried to get this level of sound impact when I got home that evening, I was pushing my 300W amp into my speakers with 3x12" bass drivers per side, and was having trouble getting the same impact.
Fascinating
Thank you
C’mon man, everyone knows that they are like giant resistors that vibrate and make sound. Horrible speakers low impedance capacitor voltage suckers that load amplifier output stages.
Yes, i guess you are right, they can present a difficult load, but the bass units seem to be traditional drivers I believe.
The new add-on woofers from Magnepan are not planar magnetic drivers but instead conventional woofers. No one outside of Magnepan has measured their sensitivity or impedance curve as they have not been put into production.