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@@godslayer1415 VTEC is not the same as variable valve timing. 2 different technologies. Variable valve timing is not better than VTEC either. They both however are valuable.
Depends on how much $$$ you've got to throw at your Z..Id rebuild the original with forged parts, balanced, ported, etc..then throw an electric-assisted turbo ( like what Audi/ VW uses) to cut turbo lag to zero and quickly get the 10-20+ PSI boost on...Or a belt- driven supercharger with intercooler...the original iron block can make 4-500 HP reliably tuned...no need to rev the crap out if it to great power like this pretty amazing mutant racecar engine that sounds Amazing....but it aint cheap and it needs to be fitted in with new mounts/ transmission/ driveshafts/ etc.
first of all, we will have flat plane sounds, V8 sounds, and VTEC sounds. what's not to love. my mechanical engineering/cad background has enjoyed every second of Craig's work greatly looking forward to his work coming to fruition
@@N4CR oh yeah, but in an engineering sense, this thing is awesome, but the LS is good, but Basic AF, everyone be doing LS swaps, those are a dime a dozen, Honda themselves should be making BONKERS crate engines like this.
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo A naturally aspirated flat plane V8 running up to 10k rpm is going to sound incredible. More like a Ferrari V8. The firing order is totally different, as is the exhaust. The sound will have basically zero similarity to the K24.
I’ve been watching this on Instagram, I’m a Pontiac and big block Chevy guy, but this is cool! I like the guy using what he has to solve the engineering problems
@@thebowtieguy777 there’s actually a bit of machining and welding of the head to make it work, unfortunately the swap lost popularity with the release of the new ecoboost 4 cyls
Can you imagine this in an nsx and just have the exhausts come out the back hatch window like a porsche carrera gt. that would be the wildest car but I doubt there is a transmission in that layout that could handle that sort of power
Just remember that the engine is Transversely mounted in the NSX. The old one at least. I don’t know crap about the new one. My point was your exhaust is gonna be facing the sides of the car. I’m not against it I actually quite like it and would like to try to build one.
@@corbantwiss174 but you can build the exhaust headers to point up or if your insane, build it with equal length headers where all 6 collect so it scavenges too
The Honda engines are Allready super powerful and they're just 4 cylinders just imagine how powerful the V8 VTEC would be or V10 VTECmore cylinders more power I wonder if it would be more powerful than a hemi ??
@@tayvonrose2528 but if it is going to be flatplane, then the firing order will change, and it'll need custom cams, not the ones that already exist for the k series
This is NUTS. Really hope he can hit his HP/Liter goals. Really awesome to see these "Hey I wanna make a custom motor." guys actually DOING IT. The LS V12 was probably the first I became aware of and they've actually became something! Hella expensive but...still. He should really start a Go Fund Me. Think he'd get alot of support. Best of luck to Craig Williams!
@john jones Jesus I completely forgot these motors existed. I remember seeing Dave Kindig's ol' Lincoln Maybellene? and 2 years ago and thinking damn..That's a beautiful motor.
Absolutely baffled how genius this engine is, having the air Intakes lower than the exhaust makes so much sense the hot air from the manifolds isn't going to rise into the top of the engine almost eliminating hot air going into the intake manifolds, it's a V8 with vtec that will rev up very high and could be very effective in a truck scenario low profile torquey cam profile then of course high end from the bigger cam would be a towing beast, If this can be made at an affordable price this very well has the ability to be a game changer
I had the tab from Neutron open in my browser for over a week to go through, but just wasn't getting the time.. and there you go make a video about it! Love it!!! Hope this works out!
if you check his Instagram he explains why its not a intake valley engine like the most v8. something to do with the timing and ascertain area preventing that on the block
Hey brother !!! I remember hearing about this back when he was talking about it in the beginning!! Any updates in this engine !!??? Would make for a kickass, highly anticipated video!!!
Now that’s called putting your money where your mouth is !!! I’ve dreamed of this engine and also a straight 6 K series with 2 blocks and heads cut down the middle of #3 and brought together. But this guy is doing it and I’m so glad somebody is taking the time and money to get it done !!
Because there's many engineering challenges that come with turning a L4 engine into a V8 as you might imagine. So it takes an engineer, with the proper connections and motivation to look at it and say "this is doable". No aftermarket company would spend thousands of dollars on manufacturing an engine they don't know how to make or might be a gamble to sell afterwards. Honda won't make it because Honda doesn't make V8s for the consumer, they've drawn the line on V6s and those will probably go out of the market soon enough as emissions become stricter and electrification becomes more apparent. Bottom line, this guy had all the resources and knowledge to start it, now that he has confidence in it, he can go all in and double down, specially when you have a severe health condition, having a project to keep your mind off things can help you cope with your condition a lot easier. So basically all things aligned for this guy and now we might just get to see a V8 K series. 🤷🏽♂️
Swear me and buddy always joked around about putting two k24 together making it 4.8l and it really could happen so awesome i could only imagine how it will sound
Yesss. Legend how can you not think turning one of the best 4cylinder engines if not the best into a v8 a bad idea.... Would love to see him succeed. Imagine the insane sound of it hitting v-tec ,mental.... Cheers from.a.tragic b16 Aussie
I like the exhaust on top because it would require less tubing for an intercooler with a turbo setup. And since heat rises you could potentially have colder air entering since the intakes are down lower. Having the exhaust on top like this will allow 8 to 1 exhaust setups much easier. I see this engine being used in racing applications a ton. Even personal off-road vehicles.
@@corbantwiss174 I feel like the top mounted exhaust would probably be best suited for a transversely mounted application. This way they can be run in opposite directions and still be equal lengths. As far as intake is concerned, I don't know how I feel about dual throttle bodies for NA applications. Forced induction would certainly allow for a single throttle body mounted after an intercooler.
I just wanna hear it, i cannot wait to hear it for the first time 😍 this is my process as a honda boy, if i ever become a multi millionaire ill make this happen 😁
Last week I designed this in my head, I thought that I would have to make mirror image right side head to solve this problem..so really the design is using Honda layout, but with many unique parts to accommodate being V8...
ill just say one of the last race engines my dad built we used the honda rods in a old chevy v8 because of the size/strength of the rods, won the championship at the race track.
Hell yes, I have been following him and this build on Instagram and I cannot wait to see this in the real world. This thing is going to be a beast and a go to engine. 😎💪
I thought about this for a long time where if I ever meet a honda tech at the factory I wanted to say this and have that V-TEC that be perfect 😏 good on you for trying this I hope it comes out right
Is the K series really that good? I know it’s good, but the GT350 Vodoo already exists and can make that power and revs with the right parts. More power to this dude, I hope he’s successful.
Yeah, the K series is arguably the best 4 cylinder engine ever made. You could argue that the 3S-GE BEAMS and the SR20VET approached it, but the K series is truly a monster.
@@LoudGuitar14 I know it’s good, there’s all kinds of dudes with $10k into a setup making well over 1000hp on nearly a stock block and crank. Don’t get me wrong, I want this to happen and be successful. I just don’t see the viability with all the relatively inexpensive 1000hp K setups.
Hot V twin turbo setup or have the intake up top and side 4:2 headers that run into twin scroll turbos, dry sump, V-Tech cams, flat plane crank, k24 stroke/bore best for turbo’d applications, lightweight flywheel
Honestly would love to see a fc based v8 but at the end of the day I would love a barra based v12 or even a vr5 based w10 but this also brings up the question how much harder is it to convert an online 4 to a v8 compared to converting to a flat 4
Having the exhaust exit the top is going to limit the engine to FF, MR and RR cars unless you just dump the exhaust straight out the hood, otherwise you're going to have to place the engine so far forward that a typical FR car would become front biased OR you'd have to run the exhaust in front of the engine and wind up heating the intakes/cylinder heads and potentially risk vaporlock/overheating issues not to mention power loss from heating the intake air. Also by placing the exhaust up high like that is going to make this engine top heavy , that coupled with individual intake/throttle's is going to put a LOT of rotational stress on the cylinder heads. Craig would be better off redesigning/relocating the timing tensioners and going with a more traditional valley intake. I'm no expert though and I'm just going off the limited/basic knowledge I have of thermodynamics and physics.
You never mentioned what is your plan to mount this into. What trans are you going to mount to it? I would consider the T56. It would be easier to have RWD. You also didn't mention cooling plans. Which water pump? O'ring the block? More detail. It sounds like a great idea. I hope it comes together for you.
Thanks for this video man! I really needed some clarity on the subject as I am thinking about buying a C6 Z06 as a DD. I guess I need to work in the price to get modified heads…..
I was like; Why not just have the heads the same way and have an intake and exhaust valley and then a one side intake and one side exhaust? before then I was like; is he spinning that head backwards? then I was like he must be; Then........ I saw a gear that reversed the rotation and instantly remembered I'm not an engineer! What a dream project, I've seen some bike engined versions but the fact you want to take this to cast has me sitting upright indeed. I'm so behind you bud I'll help if I can if not I wish you all the best and maybe I'll be a customer, fek, I'll be a customer it looks awesome..👍👌👍
He should also offer it as a sort of "complete" short block that way if someone wanted to they could build their own version using whatever heads/cams they preferred. As well as a full turn-key motor. I'd love to buy one but I'd imagine they'll be a bit pricey lol.
How was the bore spacing issue dealt with? I mean, a V8 is going to have wider bore spacing than an I4 due to the need to accommodate an extra rod on each crank throw. Were the mains and rods themselves made narrower to accommodate the tight bore spacing necessary from using I4 heads?
Narrower rods and redesigned crank journals give enough room to keep bearing spacing in place. I'm guessing here. Seems the only answer with keeping bore spacing the same.
@ Martha Mryglod There are a couple of other ways this could be handled. One would be a master rod setup similar to a radial engine. Interestingly, someone used this very setup when doing a similar project to this one - a V12 based on a Kawasaki KZ1300 inline six. An advantage here is that you could possibly use a stock crank without compromising strength so much. The other possibility would be a ‘fork and blade’ rod setup like a Harley V-twin. This setup would probably be cheaper than a master rod setup and have the advantage that both rods would still be the same length (unlike a master rod). However, it would be advantageous to make a crank with wider journals to increase strength. Both the master rod and ‘fork and blade’ setup would have the advantage of reducing bore spacing, which would enable the use of stock K-series heads. And with both setups, cylinders in each bank would be directly across from one another rather than staggered (like a traditional V8). This reduces engine length by a small amount, which could help with fitment in tight engine bays. But for a 10000+RPM motor, the ‘fork and blade’ setup would probably be better due to lighter weight and consistent rod length.
There are various v8 engines based on motorcycle cylinder heads, having a cam drive at each end of the engine. The most-produced of these is the Hartley v8, based on the Suzuki Hayabusa 1300cc engine. There are others, such as Synergy in New Zealand, who make V8s based on the Hayabusa, Kawasaki 1200, and also the BMW S1000RR. That's a fierce 2 litre race engine giving over 400 bhp
You can pick up a gen 1 f150 coyote motor for 1-2 grand and turn it into a monster and it comes out the box with 360 horse even the gen 1 truck version. The cost keeps going down every day...i think its wicked.
hmmmm smart idea to turn the one head around , you probably could put in a shaft in the place the camshaft would be on a old v8 and use that to make a take off from the front drive and have the reardrive above the clutch and bellhousing , think you should try to find a stock crank with the right cilinder spacing and stroke that could be adapted for youre engine block
This reminds me of the old forum discussions about bolting 3sge heads on 1uz v8's, except nothing matched up...from oil and coolant galleries to cylinder bores... Everything out of whack so it would require the same amount of rnd as this, working from the top down. This vs Judd music wise will be a great comparison :)
Should interview the Hartley V8 guy too! I believe he sold his endeavor to radical sports cars. I'd love to hear about his journey from conception to business sale!
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Why not do a review of the Yamaha V8?
Yes yes yes! Lol
Finally!!!!!! Been wishing for this for 10 years.
It isn't that hard to get real audio visualizations.
Why not just make a honda pony car with lift making 470 advertised power from a 4.8 or 5.2
I'm just excited for VTEC V8
You know practically every engine now has variable valve timing... and VTEC is probably the least impressive of them all
@@godslayer1415 VTEC is not the same as variable valve timing. 2 different technologies. Variable valve timing is not better than VTEC either. They both however are valuable.
@@NathanaelNaused someone who gets it! Also, don't k series have both VTEC and variable valve timing?
@@Baksteen_Express Some K series do. Not all IIRC.
V8TEC
This needs some sort of crownfunding. Imagine the S2000 swaps...
Rip drive train
Mmmmmm v8 honda... mmmm mid engine rwd da9 integra..
(Drooling while daydreaming about this)
@@dcorica79 why a DA? You might as well go for a HF Crx at that point
@@thebakerygarage because it's my favorite car and I own three of them right now
@@dcorica79 👍🏼 dc4
This may just be the 'V8' that I've been looking for my 350Z.
Why don’t you use the 4.5l v8 from the Q45 almost 400 torque stock
Depends on how much $$$ you've got to throw at your Z..Id rebuild the original with forged parts, balanced, ported, etc..then throw an electric-assisted turbo ( like what Audi/ VW uses) to cut turbo lag to zero and quickly get the 10-20+ PSI boost on...Or a belt- driven supercharger with intercooler...the original iron block can make 4-500 HP reliably tuned...no need to rev the crap out if it to great power like this pretty amazing mutant racecar engine that sounds Amazing....but it aint cheap and it needs to be fitted in with new mounts/ transmission/ driveshafts/ etc.
@@Truckerbot right? The VK is already a thing and will bolt up much easier to the Z
@@ciello___8307 Hell Yeah one of my Customer’s has a Q45 that thing is a beast
also probably can use the diff and axles would be a bad ass drifter
@@ciello___8307 because a k24/8 will probably make 150hp more NA than a VK. FBO K24A will make over 300hp on pump gas and rev to 8,700
first of all, we will have flat plane sounds, V8 sounds, and VTEC sounds. what's not to love. my mechanical engineering/cad background has enjoyed every second of Craig's work greatly looking forward to his work coming to fruition
I havent been excited about a grass roots project like this in a long time. Cant wait for the day we see this materialize.
More impressive considering he has Parkinson’s
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We must tell Brent and the boostedboiz spread the word I want a build around this motor
@@chismtrailgenetics 1800hp boosted k24 v8 smart car.
Imagine a custom open wheels single seater rear mid K48
@@noahpaulette1490 you want to kill someone! ^^
@@noahpaulette1490 Or an upgrade for Bully.
Wow, a Honda Based "Hot V" 4.8 liter V8 Engine?! Put that in an S2000 😳😍🔥
Heavy heads.. LS is cheaper, lower CoG and lighter. And probably makes similar power lol.
@@N4CR oh yeah, but in an engineering sense, this thing is awesome, but the LS is good, but Basic AF, everyone be doing LS swaps, those are a dime a dozen, Honda themselves should be making BONKERS crate engines like this.
A 9k rpm V8 k20 you can daily would be worth the LS price per HP imo, and I'm a die hard LS fan
@@N4CR ls heads won’t flow better then a 4 valve k series heads
@@N4CR K series head flow is superior. Response will be much better than a LS
The soundgasms to come
It would be interesting.... Because the k series engines sound terrible....
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo A naturally aspirated flat plane V8 running up to 10k rpm is going to sound incredible. More like a Ferrari V8. The firing order is totally different, as is the exhaust. The sound will have basically zero similarity to the K24.
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo I don't think k20/24s sound awful but D16s? yeah lol
I’ve been watching this on Instagram, I’m a Pontiac and big block Chevy guy, but this is cool! I like the guy using what he has to solve the engineering problems
I was asking myself why is there no Honda v8 engines I guess someone was listening.
Honda makes V8 and V10 engines but only for Formula 1 and Indy racing.
@@Dontbullymepls Yeah but a production VTEC version.
@@simpleclean2468 at a point honda was going to make a production V10 powered car but they stock market crash prevented that sadly.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 Was this the 08 crash or the recent one?
@@simpleclean2468 the 08 one
I've got to have this.. the PERFECT V8.. I've been saying this for years!!! Perfect for my E46 M3 build!
Almost as perfect as s54🙃
@@als5995 agree makes no sense
Guys back in the 90's were redrilling big block chevy blocks to bolt on Porsche v8 heads . the bore spacing was prety close.
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Not afraid to try something new, pete will pull from any parts bin to make what he wants work. Porsche four-valve heads on a big-block chevy? No problem. A pair of subaru heads (with twin cams) bolted to a 200-cid model a motor? Already got one. How 'bout a simple overhead cam conversion for a small-block chevy? He's made more than 50 of them. And he's finally started to adapt the ford big-block fes with one of his single overhead valve kits, too.
By accident, we discovered that the bore center on a 928 is within .030” of a BB Chevy and with help from Arias, an all aluminum 4-valve double OHC was born. The Dyno results at Westech in Mira Loma were better than expected. The engine made an astounding 550 ft. lbs. of torque at 2500 rpm.
I was reading the latest issue of Hot Rod magazine and it mentioned how he got the 928 heads on a BBC block. He ordered the aftermarket block without all the machining done (no head bolt holes) and then drilled & tapped the block to match the head bolt pattern of the Porsche heads. I guess there was also a slight offset boring of the cylinders to better position things.
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Volvo B234 16 valve head on Ford Lima engine block, that was a thing as well.
Volvo heads bolt directly to ford 2300 blocks
Only difference is an oik line
@@thebowtieguy777 there’s actually a bit of machining and welding of the head to make it work, unfortunately the swap lost popularity with the release of the new ecoboost 4 cyls
@@BlackTownie999 i may try my hand at it if i can get a cheap head
I always thought the BMW s65 motor in the e9x m3's were like what a Honda consumer v-tec V8 would look like if they made one.
Can't wait to see it built, running, and in use. Actual crazy idea and I love it
Hal tech NEXUS?
The fact that he is not a honda engineer is crazy..totally genius.. great job. I totally want this to happen. Mindblowing. Awesome!
Thank God! Finally.. THE VTEC HAS COME BACK WITH A V8!! CAN SOMEONE PAY THIS MAN?
Having air from the bottom would reduce intake temps, and having exhaust at the top would allow for cooler engine temps as well.
True but it not ideal for front engine cars
@@johnnybravo4976 why
@@nepzskiexhaust in your face
@@tslamcyt Yeah exhaust tip is directly pointed at your face
Can you imagine this in an nsx and just have the exhausts come out the back hatch window like a porsche carrera gt. that would be the wildest car but I doubt there is a transmission in that layout that could handle that sort of power
Just remember that the engine is Transversely mounted in the NSX. The old one at least. I don’t know crap about the new one. My point was your exhaust is gonna be facing the sides of the car. I’m not against it I actually quite like it and would like to try to build one.
@@corbantwiss174 but you can build the exhaust headers to point up or if your insane, build it with equal length headers where all 6 collect so it scavenges too
@@joshuaszeto mad max style? I like it. I never thought about a fuel injected 4.8L V8 bade from two Honda 4 cylinders in a mad max style build.
Built dsg's would work. I'm sure a manual could be built to handle it too but I think a built dsg would be the "economical" option.
Higher numbers all motor just means higher numbers when you add boost.
@@dadigitechman great if you do your turbos like cleetus but horrible for a street car
@@shaynegadsden well it’s gonna be meant for racing obviously it’s not gonna be a production run of the mill engine lmao
all motor means no blowers. just NA
The Honda engines are Allready super powerful and they're just 4 cylinders just imagine how powerful the V8 VTEC would be or V10 VTECmore cylinders more power I wonder if it would be more powerful than a hemi ??
Huge respect for Craig. I'll never buy on of his engines but still appreciate the amount of effort he's put into this project.
I would gladly cash out and throw one of these into my S14
I'm really curious how it'll sound.
If it still uses the cross plane crank, I would say like a turned down Ford 5.0, but it'll rev a lot higher
@@carlosmmm2183 I bet it’s flatplane. He mentioned how he wants it to rev like crazy.
@@tayvonrose2528 but if it is going to be flatplane, then the firing order will change, and it'll need custom cams, not the ones that already exist for the k series
@@carlosmmm2183 I checked his Instagram and it’s flatplane
Booooooooooooowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa🔥🔥 🤣
Don’t get me wrong i have pilot :)
This is NUTS. Really hope he can hit his HP/Liter goals. Really awesome to see these "Hey I wanna make a custom motor." guys actually DOING IT. The LS V12 was probably the first I became aware of and they've actually became something! Hella expensive but...still.
He should really start a Go Fund Me. Think he'd get alot of support. Best of luck to Craig Williams!
@john jones Jesus I completely forgot these motors existed. I remember seeing Dave Kindig's ol' Lincoln Maybellene? and 2 years ago and thinking damn..That's a beautiful motor.
Absolutely baffled how genius this engine is, having the air Intakes lower than the exhaust makes so much sense the hot air from the manifolds isn't going to rise into the top of the engine almost eliminating hot air going into the intake manifolds, it's a V8 with vtec that will rev up very high and could be very effective in a truck scenario low profile torquey cam profile then of course high end from the bigger cam would be a towing beast, If this can be made at an affordable price this very well has the ability to be a game changer
Absolutely incredible. Inspiring, even.
I had the tab from Neutron open in my browser for over a week to go through, but just wasn't getting the time.. and there you go make a video about it! Love it!!! Hope this works out!
You have put disturbing music beat on top of already poor quality voice recording. Why? :/
This
That vocal fry 🥴
The muwic during the interview was really bad.
because it's the youtube content meta.
If ya haven't seen it yet check out the mad aussie that chopped n matched 2 LS's to make a V12 LS. Sounds off its head
That would be a v16
@@codewaterairsoftandmore1050 No 2 v8 is a W-16 engine. V fuse with v is W. Only 2 inline engines makes a V. Bugatti uses w12 engines.
@@effingwrecked1917 no
So many years in the making this guy's are building the dream.
I'm excited, what honda chasis will accommodate this engine...asking for a friend in South Africa
S3k hopefully :D
Anything you can fit it in, doubt it would go in a production car.
Just keep cutting it'll fit
@@Lupine. Technically then it would be an S5K
@@aygwm it'd be whatever the Japanese word for "WidowMaker" is :)
Neutron engines just went on HPAcademy’s podcast yesterday to speak about this 10k rpm v8 beast - Keep it up ! Can’t wait to see a prototype!
The reverse head flow is an interesting idea but it's really going to complicate/limit the chassis it can be put in without crazy modifications.
if you check his Instagram he explains why its not a intake valley engine like the most v8. something to do with the timing and ascertain area preventing that on the block
@@deandrej674
Nevertheless, probably going to be challenging to get the intakes past the frame rails and have to mess with injectors and sensors.
Just thought about this idea today and here I am researching for it. A k20 based V8 would be a beast.
Hey brother !!! I remember hearing about this back when he was talking about it in the beginning!! Any updates in this engine !!??? Would make for a kickass, highly anticipated video!!!
Now that’s called putting your money where your mouth is !!! I’ve dreamed of this engine and also a straight 6 K series with 2 blocks and heads cut down the middle of #3 and brought together. But this guy is doing it and I’m so glad somebody is taking the time and money to get it done !!
Bruh for so long I was wishing someone with the skills would make a v8 block for k24 heads. Ecu will be fun to figure out
ECU is relatively easy; Motec, Syvecs, etc... have options that'll work.
Haltech. Easy. Done
Run it like a 1 uz each bank run independent ecu with a common shared timing sensor data
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 Interestingly enough, the Lamborghini/Audi V10s are run in a similar configuration.
@@jackcurrence263 neat
The iconic DFV cosworth V8 finds its origins from the BDA inline 4. Watching this with great interest
Wasn’t it based on the Ford Kent engine?
i’m confused. everyone has had this idea... how is it we’re just building one? haha
Because there's many engineering challenges that come with turning a L4 engine into a V8 as you might imagine. So it takes an engineer, with the proper connections and motivation to look at it and say "this is doable". No aftermarket company would spend thousands of dollars on manufacturing an engine they don't know how to make or might be a gamble to sell afterwards. Honda won't make it because Honda doesn't make V8s for the consumer, they've drawn the line on V6s and those will probably go out of the market soon enough as emissions become stricter and electrification becomes more apparent.
Bottom line, this guy had all the resources and knowledge to start it, now that he has confidence in it, he can go all in and double down, specially when you have a severe health condition, having a project to keep your mind off things can help you cope with your condition a lot easier. So basically all things aligned for this guy and now we might just get to see a V8 K series. 🤷🏽♂️
@@minimumeffortenthusiast8242 the question is: Will this fit in a miata? 😂
@@Dewree69 of the heads aren't too spread I suppose you can. I'd like to see this on a NSX like some Ferrari transmission and shit lol. Would be sick.
@@minimumeffortenthusiast8242 hell yeah that would be sick
@@Dewree69 will this fit in a S2000?
This is perfect for a awd honda 2022. No turbos, No supercharger.. no of that BS! All motor.
I think crossing the intakes through each other would look spectacular and no doubt, aid in the flow too.
that's going to be a task and a halfe if they're on the outside haha
On the other side if its a hot v you can drop a single turbo in there. Great choo choo potential.
@@SoulTouchMusic93 for shure! but i personally doubt that would sound better than long headers with a big single, makes it schream like an eagle!
@@guidoheeling1179 fair. Na fan here too.
@@guidoheeling1179 No American confused screaming pls
Swear me and buddy always joked around about putting two k24 together making it 4.8l and it really could happen so awesome i could only imagine how it will sound
this reminds me of the guy made 1jz v12
True but at the same time he could've just gotten a already made toyo 1GZ V12.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 I'm pretty sure he did. The 1gz is two mated 1jz bottom ends in reality. The heads were swapped to two 1jz heads, I believe.
Or the LS1 based V12.
I already want one of these. Super cool project!
That thing is going to have more rice than Uncle Ben, I love it.
That is the coolest exhaust ever
No it is not
Mercedes already did this...... it's nothing new
Yesss.
Legend how can you not think turning one of the best 4cylinder engines if not the best into a v8 a bad idea....
Would love to see him succeed.
Imagine the insane sound of it hitting v-tec ,mental....
Cheers from.a.tragic b16 Aussie
exhaust on top would increase cooler temperatures going through intake, heat rises
I like the exhaust on top because it would require less tubing for an intercooler with a turbo setup. And since heat rises you could potentially have colder air entering since the intakes are down lower. Having the exhaust on top like this will allow 8 to 1 exhaust setups much easier. I see this engine being used in racing applications a ton. Even personal off-road vehicles.
@@corbantwiss174 I feel like the top mounted exhaust would probably be best suited for a transversely mounted application. This way they can be run in opposite directions and still be equal lengths. As far as intake is concerned, I don't know how I feel about dual throttle bodies for NA applications. Forced induction would certainly allow for a single throttle body mounted after an intercooler.
I just wanna hear it, i cannot wait to hear it for the first time 😍 this is my process as a honda boy, if i ever become a multi millionaire ill make this happen 😁
The all new K48 💪💪💪
I’m so happy I’m not the only one who thought of this!
Last week I designed this in my head, I thought that I would have to make mirror image right side head to solve this problem..so really the design is using Honda layout, but with many unique parts to accommodate being V8...
ill just say one of the last race engines my dad built we used the honda rods in a old chevy v8 because of the size/strength of the rods, won the championship at the race track.
I wish the music wasnt fighting his voice at times
4 I-vtec cam rockin this v8 I can’t imagine how it will sound
Good luck 🙏🏻
I’ll buy a Cosworth 👍🏼
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This is the most American thing I've heard and I love it
The Hemi Honda sounds super cool. Could become a top seller aside from the trouble's
Hell yes, I have been following him and this build on Instagram and I cannot wait to see this in the real world. This thing is going to be a beast and a go to engine. 😎💪
10,000 RPM 🤯
Love the inboard exhaust choice explanation
I always thought about an inline 6 k20. It could be anywhere from k30 to k36
There’s a company that makes a k24 style head for the old Datsun engines , look it up! It’s awesome.
@@AnDrEw122100 that sounds badass
I thought about this for a long time where if I ever meet a honda tech at the factory I wanted to say this and have that V-TEC that be perfect 😏 good on you for trying this I hope it comes out right
Seems like the project was scrapped 😔
No tf it wasn't go on the website
I had this idea five years ago it's a excellent thought👍👍🙌
I had this idea too with k20s, there needs to be a group of entps that gather our resources together for inventing stuff
Is the K series really that good? I know it’s good, but the GT350 Vodoo already exists and can make that power and revs with the right parts. More power to this dude, I hope he’s successful.
reliability at its finest though. lol
Yeah, the K series is arguably the best 4 cylinder engine ever made. You could argue that the 3S-GE BEAMS and the SR20VET approached it, but the K series is truly a monster.
Honda k heads
The K series is a really good design. There is a guy that took this head design and adapted it to the Nissan L series 6 cylinder
@@LoudGuitar14 I know it’s good, there’s all kinds of dudes with $10k into a setup making well over 1000hp on nearly a stock block and crank. Don’t get me wrong, I want this to happen and be successful. I just don’t see the viability with all the relatively inexpensive 1000hp K setups.
Hot V twin turbo setup or have the intake up top and side 4:2 headers that run into twin scroll turbos, dry sump, V-Tech cams, flat plane crank, k24 stroke/bore best for turbo’d applications, lightweight flywheel
Yeah please hand me the autoCAD files for this...so I can mass produce it thank you 🔑🏆
You gotta pay for it
Honestly would love to see a fc based v8 but at the end of the day I would love a barra based v12 or even a vr5 based w10 but this also brings up the question how much harder is it to convert an online 4 to a v8 compared to converting to a flat 4
Having the exhaust exit the top is going to limit the engine to FF, MR and RR cars unless you just dump the exhaust straight out the hood, otherwise you're going to have to place the engine so far forward that a typical FR car would become front biased OR you'd have to run the exhaust in front of the engine and wind up heating the intakes/cylinder heads and potentially risk vaporlock/overheating issues not to mention power loss from heating the intake air.
Also by placing the exhaust up high like that is going to make this engine top heavy , that coupled with individual intake/throttle's is going to put a LOT of rotational stress on the cylinder heads. Craig would be better off redesigning/relocating the timing tensioners and going with a more traditional valley intake.
I'm no expert though and I'm just going off the limited/basic knowledge I have of thermodynamics and physics.
Did you know Mercedes, BMW, Aston Martin and many others already have a Hot Vee setup?
Years ago I actually had a very similar thought process but with 2 H22A heads and it would be called the H44.
It never happened
Wrong. Craig's still working on the project.
You never mentioned what is your plan to mount this into. What trans are you going to mount to it? I would consider the T56. It would be easier to have RWD. You also didn't mention cooling plans. Which water pump? O'ring the block? More detail. It sounds like a great idea. I hope it comes together for you.
For some reason I feel like this needs to be in a classic mustang with twin turbos to piss poeple off
Then drift against DK in Tokyo so that you don't have to leave town.
@@SaltySRT lol
Thanks for this video man! I really needed some clarity on the subject as I am thinking about buying a C6 Z06 as a DD.
I guess I need to work in the price to get modified heads…..
basically a corvette c8 zo6/c8r 5.5 v8. this guy better hope GM doesn’t offer a crate engine
But this one got V-tec
@@chomin3025 yes GM engines have vtec correct
@@michaelgomez4994 I was reffering to the k48 but ok...
@@chomin3025 k48??? the c8 z06 engine hasn’t been named. but it does have valve timing
@@chomin3025 unless your saying a corvette race car engine doesn’t have valve timing
Finally I found somebody making a v8 from Honda k
The perfect engine for my 2019 CR-V
This is sick I was dreaming of a b18 v8 build, to see this is amazing
so cool man I am disabled engineer as well and time is all we need
I was like;
Why not just have the heads the same way and have an intake and exhaust valley and then a one side intake and one side exhaust? before then I was like;
is he spinning that head backwards?
then I was like he must be;
Then........
I saw a gear that reversed the rotation and instantly remembered I'm not an engineer!
What a dream project, I've seen some bike engined versions but the fact you want to take this to cast has me sitting upright indeed. I'm so behind you bud I'll help if I can if not I wish you all the best and maybe I'll be a customer, fek, I'll be a customer it looks awesome..👍👌👍
He should also offer it as a sort of "complete" short block that way if someone wanted to they could build their own version using whatever heads/cams they preferred. As well as a full turn-key motor. I'd love to buy one but I'd imagine they'll be a bit pricey lol.
This is the engine that the RX-7 FD deserves.
So what happened? I dont find any videos showing one running in real life.
How was the bore spacing issue dealt with? I mean, a V8 is going to have wider bore spacing than an I4 due to the need to accommodate an extra rod on each crank throw. Were the mains and rods themselves made narrower to accommodate the tight bore spacing necessary from using I4 heads?
Narrower rods and redesigned crank journals give enough room to keep bearing spacing in place. I'm guessing here. Seems the only answer with keeping bore spacing the same.
@ Martha Mryglod There are a couple of other ways this could be handled. One would be a master rod setup similar to a radial engine. Interestingly, someone used this very setup when doing a similar project to this one - a V12 based on a Kawasaki KZ1300 inline six. An advantage here is that you could possibly use a stock crank without compromising strength so much.
The other possibility would be a ‘fork and blade’ rod setup like a Harley V-twin. This setup would probably be cheaper than a master rod setup and have the advantage that both rods would still be the same length (unlike a master rod). However, it would be advantageous to make a crank with wider journals to increase strength.
Both the master rod and ‘fork and blade’ setup would have the advantage of reducing bore spacing, which would enable the use of stock K-series heads. And with both setups, cylinders in each bank would be directly across from one another rather than staggered (like a traditional V8). This reduces engine length by a small amount, which could help with fitment in tight engine bays. But for a 10000+RPM motor, the ‘fork and blade’ setup would probably be better due to lighter weight and consistent rod length.
@@matthewstorm5188 I hadn't thought about most of these solutions. Thanks for the reply!
i dabbled in something like this it's a cool design! i also considered a flat 8 with one of these
I was literally thinking about this the other day and here it is
There are various v8 engines based on motorcycle cylinder heads, having a cam drive at each end of the engine. The most-produced of these is the Hartley v8, based on the Suzuki Hayabusa 1300cc engine. There are others, such as Synergy in New Zealand, who make V8s based on the Hayabusa, Kawasaki 1200, and also the BMW S1000RR. That's a fierce 2 litre race engine giving over 400 bhp
And the Yamaha version
I want to see one based on the Austin A-Series, with a cross plane crank.
I want a K48 Flatplane V8 powered Honda Accord that sounds like a Ferrari with VTEC.
I remember first seeing 2.75L K builds making around 400hp all motor
This is going to be dope
WOW!!!! FINALLY someone makes our dream high revving DOHC NA motor for us broke guys🔥🔥🔥💓💯💪💪👍👍👌👌👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼Thank you xmillion😁😁
Not gonna be cheap lmao
You can pick up a gen 1 f150 coyote motor for 1-2 grand and turn it into a monster and it comes out the box with 360 horse even the gen 1 truck version. The cost keeps going down every day...i think its wicked.
@@midnight347 most ls motors are dirt cheap as well, plus theres a bigger aftermarket for LS than for Coyote
Using the superior head flow of the K series with the capacity of the V8. Nice
I have always thought of a block like this & 4g63 v8. Or inline 8ss. Hell yea🤘🤘
THE NEW KING ON THE PLANET!
hmmmm smart idea to turn the one head around , you probably could put in a shaft in the place the camshaft would be on a old v8 and use that to make a take off from the front drive and have the reardrive above the clutch and bellhousing , think you should try to find a stock crank with the right cilinder spacing and stroke that could be adapted for youre engine block
This reminds me of the old forum discussions about bolting 3sge heads on 1uz v8's, except nothing matched up...from oil and coolant galleries to cylinder bores... Everything out of whack so it would require the same amount of rnd as this, working from the top down. This vs Judd music wise will be a great comparison :)
An affordable and reliable flatplane V8. The best engine swap you can think of. I already want to see a Ferrari-sounding RX8.
Oh the possibilities of a K50 V8!!! I want one yo!
Can't wait to see this in an nsx
Should interview the Hartley V8 guy too! I believe he sold his endeavor to radical sports cars. I'd love to hear about his journey from conception to business sale!