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High rpm engines only have torque problems if the gearing is wrong. One shouldn't use the gear ratios of an engine that redlines at 6500 on an engine that redlines at 10000.
I think swapping out a final gear might be the most cost efficient way but I am not sure how available those are. I do wonder if this is a small price to pay for using less custom parts which seems to be one of the driving ethos of their designs.
There are actually a couple pretty cool custom engines derived from OEM engines. There's the V12LS mentioned below, H1 MAXI V8 made from 2 Hayabusa engines, and MV4-ZR V4 made by Motus, which is basically a LS V8 chopped in half.
I would love to see a video on the BMW P60B40 engine that was used in the E46 M3 GTR. So much of what people know about that car is based on video games but I would love to see more information on the actual car itself that raced ALMS/24Hrs of Nurburgring. Always happy to see a new upload from this channel, keep it up man! 💪🏼
Saw that car and motor at the BMW factory in Germany. That motor was supposed to be used in the E92 M3 but never made it do to torque and smoothness issues. What an engine though...
I'm still waiting for an engine design that runs on stochiometric ratios, uses overpower cooling for the block and has a filter system to deal with NOx emissions. Best modern engines consume at least twice the needed fuel just to avoid high explosion temps, block temps and exhaust that's hard to clean.
Don't diss properly engineered modern engines. OEM engines just don't run richer or just to make more torque like the aftermarket does. OEM's have prioritized the swirl flow for optimal mixture so they can make more power for the same amount of fuel and enable the ability to run on much lower octanes of gasoline, and then cram boost into it and toughen up the engine block. While a 500hp head ported turbo K24 from the aftermarket is cool, it might be running a bit rich with 93 octane, but the Mercedes M139 can still run 91 octane and produce 416hp while being reliable and passing emissions and fuel economy, despite being on high boost.
Opposing piston is not at bottom dead center, unless each piston has it’s own throw on the crank. On most V-8s, opposing pistons share a throw. This means that the opposing piston is always 90 degrees away from it’s counterpart in a 90 degree V-8. This will be true for both flat-plane cranks and cross-plane cranks.
Have you heard of Hartley Enterprises? Hartley has been producing 'busa based V8s for years now. They have an inline four and are working on a V4. Not sure when the V4 will make production, but sounds cool!
This engine is awesome, but $70k is beyond reach for most hobbyist. If they're making race car engines that's fine, but don't act like it's the small displacement, high reving v8 the aftermarket is looking for. Because until it's less than $7k-$10k it's basically unobtainium.
This is my project car and I want to use it to show off the quality and awesome engines that can fit into a volvo 245dl and represent the BRZ Synergy V8 2.4l engine.
Wow, so, these engine's rev like a serious 2 stroke correct? Just thinking, if these high revving engines is mated to the right geared transmission and rear end gears, this engine would be a huge revved out power beast?
It is a common practice for just about every manufacturer of a v-4, v-6, v-8, v-10, v-12, v-16 gas or diesel engines to manufacture one style head except for most overhead cam engines, that can be turned 180 degrees from each other and be installed on either side of the engine block or any V style engine for that matter it doesn't make any difference heads can be swapped from one side to the other, plus it saves money not having to engineer and manufacture two different heads identical in every way except they are reversed or mirror images of each other.
There’s a company that makes a cylinder head for the Datsun 280z with the inline 6 that’s actually a k20 copy but with 2 extra combustion chambers obviously . Only thing is it doesn’t have ivtec system . But it’s still a k20 copy that bolts onto the old sohc Nissan engines , super cool .
Good day , I was wondering if you can put a engine like that into a volvo 245dl station wagon. I want to overhaul it and I want to replace the engine brz v8 2.4l . And use the car to sponsor the supplier of the engine. . I am from paarl and no one has a rare classic volvo 245dl station wagon on the road .
This design philosophy would make base model Mustangs and Camaros MUCH more appealing. Imagine a 2.3L V8 instead of the Ecoboost? Or the Chevy one with pushrods? It would be awesome
This is a cool motor but it would not be more appealing than ecoboost. I hate ford but those turbo motors they put out lately put down some solid power and have a lot of tuning headroom
That’ll be awesome, if it’s going to have a Crossplane crank. If it’s got the cylinder heads, barrels, valve train, connecting rods and pistons, all you need is the block, crank, cam to make.
Hey cool video thanks for sharing cool motor was wondering what's all out there for small displacement V8s I just bought a Range Rover with a 3.5 liter GM Fireball
Wouldn't it be easier to stick together two v4 rather than two l4? I honestly would like to see a 1.2l V8 from 2x 600cc bike engines, maybe stroked for torque though...
Better than just making another Turbocharged V6. Besides, I've been saying this for a while.....why not just make/create Smaller Block V8s if fuel efficiency and performance is a concern? Along with Turbochargers and Superchargers being options.
Because a v8 with the same displacement will always have much more combustion chamber surface area, which means more heat is lost and efficiency is worse, there are more frictional losses as well.
I have an idea for a video you could make. You could talk about other engines made my other manufacturers that have the same basic recipe as the 2jz which are : aluminium head, iron block, six cylinders, turbo charged and other. I think this would be an interesting topic because as we all know the 2jz is increasingly becoming more expensive and difficult to acquire so some light can be shed on some other great engines. A great example would be the mercedes OM606(which is a diesel but a great engine nonetheless) . Another is a six cylinder engine made by Volvo, I've heard it's called the 2j - swede. What do you think of this?
Yes Volvo B6304, B6284T and B6254. B for benzin, 6 cylinder, 3,0/2,8/2,5 liter, 4 valve, T for turbo. But! It's a modular family with 5 and 4 cylinder versions too. There is a 1000hp 4cyl modular volvo engine here in Finland; S40 with a B4204t. Extremely capable engines.
Love it! I don't know about a zx12 ~ I know I owned a zx14 for a couple of years, and I've often thought of doing exactly this with two zx14s. ~ 2.8 litres, about 400 hp, and torque is a little bit scarce below perhaps 3,ooo but once you get to that, it goes all the way to 12. It's got an awful lot more bottom end & midrange than a zx10r. Could you drive a small / mid-size car perfectly fine with a zx14? Hell yeah! So how would it go with 2 of them? [evil laugh] Let's find out! Imagine something like an Opel Cadet, or a Datson 1200, or a Mazda 808, but with a 400hp V8 in it, which weighed more or less exactly what the original motor weighed. You'd need a slippery diff, (The hell with it! Throw a spool in there. Who cares?) and .... a friend on the local police force ~
i know it's a Honda engine but still sounds like it were a 4 cilinder, I am sure that the sequence is the same as if it were a 4 cylinder bcuz if it had the sequence of a V8 it would sound very different
A V8 doesn't have a sequence, you're taking about the difference between flat/crossplane crank. Yamaha has their crossplane inline 4 sounds like half an American v8
Why would you think Judd is the only company capable of making these engines ? , this is established tech and company and has been around for a while....
The newer BMW S1000RR based Synergy 2.0 L V8 appears to be higher revving than the Kawasaki ZX12R based one and holds several land speed several records at Bonneville, e.g. class G/FCC for a production based 2.0 L naturally aspirated car. ua-cam.com/video/a7xqZbGA3v4/v-deo.html
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High rpm engines only have torque problems if the gearing is wrong. One shouldn't use the gear ratios of an engine that redlines at 6500 on an engine that redlines at 10000.
thanks! people are just dumb nowadays
I think swapping out a final gear might be the most cost efficient way but I am not sure how available those are. I do wonder if this is a small price to pay for using less custom parts which seems to be one of the driving ethos of their designs.
Christ Almighty, somebody that has common f*cking sense!
There's more to it than gearing. Power band is a thing.
If my fg2 civic had the same gearing as my buddy's fusion sport, my civic would not be faster haha 😂
I love small displacement V8s. I gotta see one of these.
There are actually a couple pretty cool custom engines derived from OEM engines. There's the V12LS mentioned below, H1 MAXI V8 made from 2 Hayabusa engines, and MV4-ZR V4 made by Motus, which is basically a LS V8 chopped in half.
Not to mention the I4 made from a LS cylinder head 😊
I would love to see a video on the BMW P60B40 engine that was used in the E46 M3 GTR. So much of what people know about that car is based on video games but I would love to see more information on the actual car itself that raced ALMS/24Hrs of Nurburgring. Always happy to see a new upload from this channel, keep it up man! 💪🏼
Saw that car and motor at the BMW factory in Germany. That motor was supposed to be used in the E92 M3 but never made it do to torque and smoothness issues. What an engine though...
Nowadays, Synergy have their next generation version of that engine, based on the BMW S1000RR engine this time.
I'm still waiting for an engine design that runs on stochiometric ratios, uses overpower cooling for the block and has a filter system to deal with NOx emissions. Best modern engines consume at least twice the needed fuel just to avoid high explosion temps, block temps and exhaust that's hard to clean.
Don't diss properly engineered modern engines. OEM engines just don't run richer or just to make more torque like the aftermarket does. OEM's have prioritized the swirl flow for optimal mixture so they can make more power for the same amount of fuel and enable the ability to run on much lower octanes of gasoline, and then cram boost into it and toughen up the engine block.
While a 500hp head ported turbo K24 from the aftermarket is cool, it might be running a bit rich with 93 octane, but the Mercedes M139 can still run 91 octane and produce 416hp while being reliable and passing emissions and fuel economy, despite being on high boost.
You mean any modern turbocharged engine ?
It’s like a really toned down F1 car! Sounds great 👍🏼
Coincidentaly 2.4 V8’s were used in Formula 1 between 2006-2013 (with the exception of the STR-1 which used a de-tuned V10)😅🤣
Opposing piston is not at bottom dead center, unless each piston has it’s own throw on the crank. On most V-8s, opposing pistons share a throw. This means that the opposing piston is always 90 degrees away from it’s counterpart in a 90 degree V-8. This will be true for both flat-plane cranks and cross-plane cranks.
Just to say Daimler did an all aluminium V8 2.4L 60 years ago for their Daimler dart.
I have a s2000 with bad engine ... would synergy v8 fit the car?
Those have large engine bats I assume you could fit one
In your drawing of the reversed head , you have a hot V shown , was this going to be the original design that changed ?
Have you heard of Hartley Enterprises? Hartley has been producing 'busa based V8s for years now. They have an inline four and are working on a V4. Not sure when the V4 will make production, but sounds cool!
K24 based inline 6: the K36
Isn't that a similar concept to the engines radical produces? Sounds awesome.
This engine is awesome, but $70k is beyond reach for most hobbyist. If they're making race car engines that's fine, but don't act like it's the small displacement, high reving v8 the aftermarket is looking for. Because until it's less than $7k-$10k it's basically unobtainium.
That's completely naïve or unrealistic, try building a performance anything with just 7-10 grand... 70K is cheap for that level of engine...
This is my project car and I want to use it to show off the quality and awesome engines that can fit into a volvo 245dl and represent the BRZ Synergy V8 2.4l engine.
I’m ok with small v8s.
Any v8.
Love the videos, how about a 2.8 Duramax video
One of my fav V8s is the Toyota/Lexus 4.0 V8. It's small and mighty
Wow, so, these engine's rev like a serious 2 stroke correct? Just thinking, if these high revving engines is mated to the right geared transmission and rear end gears, this engine would be a huge revved out power beast?
A beautiful marvel of engineering.
It is a common practice for just about every manufacturer of a v-4, v-6, v-8, v-10, v-12, v-16 gas or diesel engines to manufacture one style head except for most overhead cam engines, that can be turned 180 degrees from each other and be installed on either side of the engine block or any V style engine for that matter it doesn't make any difference heads can be swapped from one side to the other, plus it saves money not having to engineer and manufacture two different heads identical in every way except they are reversed or mirror images of each other.
If I had the means I'd commission a Honda K20/24 based inline 6 cylinder with heavy duty cast block and head since billet is typically race only.
There’s a company that makes a cylinder head for the Datsun 280z with the inline 6 that’s actually a k20 copy but with 2 extra combustion chambers obviously . Only thing is it doesn’t have ivtec system . But it’s still a k20 copy that bolts onto the old sohc Nissan engines , super cool .
@@AnDrEw122100 - Wow that's pretty awesome!
Good day , I was wondering if you can put a engine like that into a volvo 245dl station wagon. I want to overhaul it and I want to replace the engine brz v8 2.4l . And use the car to sponsor the supplier of the engine. . I am from paarl and no one has a rare classic volvo 245dl station wagon on the road .
This design philosophy would make base model Mustangs and Camaros MUCH more appealing. Imagine a 2.3L V8 instead of the Ecoboost? Or the Chevy one with pushrods? It would be awesome
This is a cool motor but it would not be more appealing than ecoboost. I hate ford but those turbo motors they put out lately put down some solid power and have a lot of tuning headroom
Would love to build this, just with Harley Davidson cylinder heads!
That’ll be awesome, if it’s going to have a Crossplane crank. If it’s got the cylinder heads, barrels, valve train, connecting rods and pistons, all you need is the block, crank, cam to make.
If they turn one head around, and being familiar with these\ motorcycle heads, I would love to see the cam / cam chain set up...
Doesn't variable valve timing mitigate the low end torque issues? That would be an excellent thing to integrate into an engine like that for the road.
If same configuration turbo would be there, it would look nice
Dreaming with a Factory 5 Cobra with one of these.
Incredible Engine 💪
Hey cool video thanks for sharing cool motor was wondering what's all out there for small displacement V8s I just bought a Range Rover with a 3.5 liter GM Fireball
Someone should put this in a miata! :D
and now turbocharge that beast
Wouldn't it be easier to stick together two v4 rather than two l4?
I honestly would like to see a 1.2l V8 from 2x 600cc bike engines, maybe stroked for torque though...
this engine would be perfect for WEC hypercar, especially if it's pared with a hybrid system
This question of the opposite heads I kept thinking thousands of times
Everyone seems to love the 4BT Cummins, or at least they used to
I have a engine suggestion. The Mercury SB7. A LS7 based engine with DOHC. Dope as hell.
Better than just making another Turbocharged V6.
Besides, I've been saying this for a while.....why not just make/create Smaller Block V8s if fuel efficiency and performance is a concern?
Along with Turbochargers and Superchargers being options.
Because a v8 with the same displacement will always have much more combustion chamber surface area, which means more heat is lost and efficiency is worse, there are more frictional losses as well.
@@laurean5998 I don't see much difference.
@@laurean5998 And besides, Lexus LS Sedans has the V8 4.0 liters, and some of McLaren's vehicles has V8s of 3.8 liters.
Do you have Synergy Auto's website? Googling seems to bring up a lot of unrelated companies.
sounds great, pushes mildly
Link to the site?
thank you very much for the information, I'm from Brazil and I had already seen Jun a while ago. I'm wanting to do it with m50 bmw
Judd v8,v10 race engines......sound so cool and make alot of hp.
I really want to put one of these into an Opel GT.
I have an idea for a video you could make. You could talk about other engines made my other manufacturers that have the same basic recipe as the 2jz which are : aluminium head, iron block, six cylinders, turbo charged and other. I think this would be an interesting topic because as we all know the 2jz is increasingly becoming more expensive and difficult to acquire so some light can be shed on some other great engines. A great example would be the mercedes OM606(which is a diesel but a great engine nonetheless) . Another is a six cylinder engine made by Volvo, I've heard it's called the 2j - swede.
What do you think of this?
I6s are for losers. 1UZ life
Yes Volvo B6304, B6284T and B6254. B for benzin, 6 cylinder, 3,0/2,8/2,5 liter, 4 valve, T for turbo. But! It's a modular family with 5 and 4 cylinder versions too. There is a 1000hp 4cyl modular volvo engine here in Finland; S40 with a B4204t. Extremely capable engines.
Ford Barra, Nissan RB series, Toyota JZ are all iron block aluminum head inline sixes.
another if you want to say in toyota is the 1FZ engine, a 4.5 litter inline 6 made for land cruisers
Love it! I don't know about a zx12 ~ I know I owned a zx14 for a couple of years, and I've often thought of doing exactly this with two zx14s. ~ 2.8 litres, about 400 hp, and torque is a little bit scarce below perhaps 3,ooo but once you get to that, it goes all the way to 12. It's got an awful lot more bottom end & midrange than a zx10r. Could you drive a small / mid-size car perfectly fine with a zx14? Hell yeah! So how would it go with 2 of them? [evil laugh] Let's find out! Imagine something like an Opel Cadet, or a Datson 1200, or a Mazda 808, but with a 400hp V8 in it, which weighed more or less exactly what the original motor weighed. You'd need a slippery diff, (The hell with it! Throw a spool in there. Who cares?) and .... a friend on the local police force ~
Dude if someone put this into a like a Dallara f308, that would be so fucking ultimate.
I can't find their website.
The Daimler Hemi is only 100cc bigger than this, but Honda does a five litre small block.
I've always thought did it would be pretty cool to put a big angry 2-stroke engine in a car
I'm still waiting on someone to build a V8 from twin F20s.
Kinda wish this thing revved to 21000 RPM like old F1 V8s
i know it's a Honda engine but still sounds like it were a 4 cilinder, I am sure that the sequence is the same as if it were a 4 cylinder bcuz if it had the sequence of a V8 it would sound very different
A V8 doesn't have a sequence, you're taking about the difference between flat/crossplane crank. Yamaha has their crossplane inline 4 sounds like half an American v8
Kawasaki...
Just add 2 baby turbo to help it more
F1 v10, more one and two liter v8's and more cylinders in tiny street cars!
It's the same as an F1 engine used from 2007 to 2013
I love it 🥰
Sounds like a DFV
below 10.500 is touring
While interesting. I'd call Judd for their 3.0L V8 any day of the week first. Race proven for over 20 years.
But still well outside my budget.
Why would you think Judd is the only company capable of making these engines ? , this is established tech and company and has been around for a while....
Hear me out…. 2 4cyl eco boost to make a v8 version
Brz STI anyone?
Cosworth v8
The newer BMW S1000RR based Synergy 2.0 L V8 appears to be higher revving than the Kawasaki ZX12R based one and holds several land speed several records at Bonneville, e.g. class G/FCC for a production based 2.0 L naturally aspirated car. ua-cam.com/video/a7xqZbGA3v4/v-deo.html
Who was the idiot who put music over the engine sounds?
Why do people like small engines lol
V8 busa
What I took away from this is Craig is not spelled or pronounced with an E fucking yanks mispronouncing every second word lolz ^^
I dont understand why they would keep it single over head cam its durabulity as a single is fucked since its such a small cam with 8 cylinders
Why? A v8 is big. Vs 4cyl.
Stop moving your F'in arms when talking!
70000, pita to work on, ford cologne clone.
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low end power is fixed with extremely high gear ratios, that's not a problem, stop spreading BS
Lower gear ratios mate, bigger numbers= lower gearing.... High ratio's are for the highway... Stop spreading BS...hahahaha