The problem with Zeus is that you always want more Zeus, because most of his stuff starts out kinda sub par until you get a few other boons, then it becomes incredible. If I get Zeus in one of my core slots, Zeus becomes the only God I want to see for the rest of the run. _Which is so like him, friggin spotlight hog..._
jabberwagon very true, only exception for me is if i’m running poseidon and i want seastorm. Otherwise all zeus or no zeus (except for billowing and the boost to god gauge if i HAVE to have him)
And then you realize you maybe went a l i t t l e too hard on Zeus and you're fighting Hades with no defensive boons at all, no extra dashes or reflects or calls
Haelian, Thank you for uploading your content to youtube. More than anything you’ve taught me the “self dialogue” that is needed to succeed in hades when making decisions. I can’t watch your twitch due to fatherhood, but i’m eternally grateful for being able to see quality content when i do have time. Thank you. P.s. you need more hot sauce and push ups
Yeah, if there's one change I'd like to see, it's that the game weight the god boons you see a bit more towards your starting relic. It's annoying (very minor) to like start with the Zeus relic trying for a Zeus build and then see a total of 2 Zeus boons.
I had this happen with Athena the other day. I wanted to try a Lightning Phalanx build, and then the initial Athena boon didn't give me the cast even after spending a reroll. Then I never saw any more Athena, and wound up shifting gears into a Poseidon Mirage Shot build instead
Zeus Cast Beo is how I got my first 32 Heat win, it's weird, and a little awkward, but it was very strong, and I've done a few runs since and it's fun lol
I think mirage shot procs double strike so potentially every cast can be triple since I remember doing close to half em4 hades health damage. I had extra casts and artemis legendary so this build still does take so much work to be good. Maybe too much.
watching you stream made me feel like giving it a try finally, and ive met some cool people and had a great time. I've seen a ton of the Huge steamers and stuff from league to whatever, but i think you made me believe I should give it a shot. Your content is fantastic and your face is handsome. Thanks my dude.
21:28 I know it’s lame to be commenting on a 3 year old video. But the chain lightning boon is only offered when you have Zeus attack and his regular cast(basically non Beowulf cast).
Hmm I would have gone for artimes fully loaded and the switch caron keepsake try for chaos cast damage and blood stone, thats 3 more cast and damage on top of it, potentially get lightning rod if you do piercing strike like he did so when you do cast it leaves 6 stones witch proc a lighting as well and whith double bolts thats an other 12 bolts coming down
You don't need Poseidon attack to get sea storm in it with the shield, it has knockback naturally. Just put Poseidon on special to qualify for sea storm and something good on the attack, like Aphro or Arty and enjoy lightning bolts on it anyway.
Someone in chat said zeus's cast has a noticeable delay and the other casts don't, but the overpowered ice wine actually does (which is weird because trippy flare on its own doesn't).
Ice wine only does on beowulf and hera. Ice wine removes a lot of delay from normal trippy shot (which takes like 2 seconds to drop when you use it with a normal weapon like Achilles spear), but since Beowulf and hera completely remove that trippy shot delay, ice wine adds delay lol
If you get the lighting strikes twice thing then it's much more fun to load them all at once and turn 3 lighting bolts into 12. Good? No. Funny? Absolutely
Pretty cool build but yeah needing so many Zeus boons can make it unreliable. Fun when it happens though. Also what a mad lad taking Chaos curse on your attack and then spamming the hell out of it down to 1 hp not once but twice.
Hmmm I think it would be helpful, but not good. With how low the damage is, anything helps. Also, if you don't get the shot on your bull rush, it's less useful, because you're quite likely to pick up the bloodstones if you charge and then they go off Edit: Lmao someone in chat mentioned this duo at 30:45 (it's Lightning Rod) and he said absolutely no, so I guess not
How did he not know/think that getting the Poseidon attack would be a bad idea? I guess I wouldn't have known for sure if it would push outside of the cast radius either, but even if it didn't, the knockback is really annoying and the 30% damage is _WEAK!_
36:00 Ok I gotta ask this, because it's driving me nuts. Is there some sort of AI manipulation or move he's doing that directs the Cerberus shots? Because whenever I rush over to that side, the dog dumps like 3 shots right on that spot, instead of just leaving it bare as in every Haelian run. Had it happen when I started in the middle and when I was right there in that alcove from the start, so I have no fucking clue why he sometimes just decides to destroy me.
Yeah I know it would be nice if there was more Hades content on this channel but you know, he has to talk to plants and lemons and piles of salt first and that takes up a lot of time
After youve reached Hades once, don't have to kill him, and have spent enough Titan Blood and a few other condiotions then unlock phrases get added to dialogue pools
Give me a piece of advice please, how can I upgrade my companions? I gave Meg three ambrosia I guess, we've even had some quality time in Zags bed chambers, but still there is only one use.
Regarding Rogue Legacy _"you start off super weak and there's a really steep learning curve, but the upgrades can let you get really really powerful" _*_hmm sounds familiar..._*
Beowulf is probably my favourite shield aspect😅😂😂😂😂especially with slicing flare. This one time I got slicing flare with mirage shot, and that slapped like hell. Does more damage than Ares' Aid actually, with cast boons ofcourse.
I don't know how I feel about any aspect of the shield past the chaos aspect... To me they all feel sluggish. Every one of them loses out on special being much useful. Beowulf just feels too slow for its dmg especially when compared to Arthur (which I love).
@@bruhder5854 I do understand where you're coming from. Arthur tends to be my favourite sword too, but I recently beat Hades faster with Poseidon's sword. I think Beowulf shield works best with supplementary damage, like doom on the special. Beowulf, at least for me is a total cast build.
The problem with Zeus is that you always want more Zeus, because most of his stuff starts out kinda sub par until you get a few other boons, then it becomes incredible. If I get Zeus in one of my core slots, Zeus becomes the only God I want to see for the rest of the run. _Which is so like him, friggin spotlight hog..._
jabberwagon very true, only exception for me is if i’m running poseidon and i want seastorm. Otherwise all zeus or no zeus (except for billowing and the boost to god gauge if i HAVE to have him)
And then you realize you maybe went a l i t t l e too hard on Zeus and you're fighting Hades with no defensive boons at all, no extra dashes or reflects or calls
@@joaogomes9405 who needs em? (double strikes my way to victory)
@@joaogomes9405 eh i find defensive boons optional, why take defense if you know youre not gonna get hit/kill hades before you die
Nothing says confidence like putting a Chaos curse on your attack, and using it constantly.
Haelian,
Thank you for uploading your content to youtube. More than anything you’ve taught me the “self dialogue” that is needed to succeed in hades when making decisions. I can’t watch your twitch due to fatherhood, but i’m eternally grateful for being able to see quality content when i do have time. Thank you.
P.s. you need more hot sauce and push ups
10:53 he hits the exact same note Persephone's keepsake makes when you equip it
Yeah all you need is everything Zeus could ever give you lmfao
Ah yes, the usual Zeus run.
I mean... In all fairness, Zeus is probably the best hero... This is despite Ares being my main man...
You only really need the cast and double strike to get most of this damage.
@@Fledermausmann hero
Yeah, if there's one change I'd like to see, it's that the game weight the god boons you see a bit more towards your starting relic. It's annoying (very minor) to like start with the Zeus relic trying for a Zeus build and then see a total of 2 Zeus boons.
I had this happen with Athena the other day. I wanted to try a Lightning Phalanx build, and then the initial Athena boon didn't give me the cast even after spending a reroll. Then I never saw any more Athena, and wound up shifting gears into a Poseidon Mirage Shot build instead
@@bombshellblonde544 Live by the gods die by the gods!
Zeus Cast Beo is how I got my first 32 Heat win, it's weird, and a little awkward, but it was very strong, and I've done a few runs since and it's fun lol
he didnt even end up needing patty... the madman
Thing is beowulf is already super good at bossing, just get mirage shot with flood flare and you could get similar numbers
22:12 is this casual 3600dmg hit
Boosted trap damage
I think mirage shot procs double strike so potentially every cast can be triple since I remember doing close to half em4 hades health damage. I had extra casts and artemis legendary so this build still does take so much work to be good. Maybe too much.
watching you stream made me feel like giving it a try finally, and ive met some cool people and had a great time. I've seen a ton of the Huge steamers and stuff from league to whatever, but i think you made me believe I should give it a shot. Your content is fantastic and your face is handsome. Thanks my dude.
Hahaha did the same, I had those 10 bucks on epic and got this game for 8 bucks, totally worth it
The lightning hits so quickly that it hits within the invurnablity from the previous hit so it only does 1 strike of damage
10:54 sounds like a broken flute
21:28 I know it’s lame to be commenting on a 3 year old video. But the chain lightning boon is only offered when you have Zeus attack and his regular cast(basically non Beowulf cast).
Hmm I would have gone for artimes fully loaded and the switch caron keepsake try for chaos cast damage and blood stone, thats 3 more cast and damage on top of it, potentially get lightning rod if you do piercing strike like he did so when you do cast it leaves 6 stones witch proc a lighting as well and whith double bolts thats an other 12 bolts coming down
You don't need Poseidon attack to get sea storm in it with the shield, it has knockback naturally. Just put Poseidon on special to qualify for sea storm and something good on the attack, like Aphro or Arty and enjoy lightning bolts on it anyway.
This is true, totes forgot
Someone in chat said zeus's cast has a noticeable delay and the other casts don't, but the overpowered ice wine actually does (which is weird because trippy flare on its own doesn't).
Ice wine only does on beowulf and hera.
Ice wine removes a lot of delay from normal trippy shot (which takes like 2 seconds to drop when you use it with a normal weapon like Achilles spear), but since Beowulf and hera completely remove that trippy shot delay, ice wine adds delay lol
Maybe rechargable cast was better, because the lightning can't strike a few times in a row
At that point just stagger your shots. Load, shoot, load, shoot
If you get the lighting strikes twice thing then it's much more fun to load them all at once and turn 3 lighting bolts into 12. Good? No. Funny? Absolutely
3:46 why didn't he pick the special damage?
13:05 The JoJo fans looking at the chat and seeing Dio
If you had that insta return Hermes boon this run would have been amazing
Pretty cool build but yeah needing so many Zeus boons can make it unreliable. Fun when it happens though. Also what a mad lad taking Chaos curse on your attack and then spamming the hell out of it down to 1 hp not once but twice.
This was...a run.
So normally Zeus cast is chain but Beo changes it to bolt
Correct
Pretty unlikely but if you get mirage shot as well it gets pretty insane
Would the artemis duo boon be good for this?
Hmmm I think it would be helpful, but not good. With how low the damage is, anything helps. Also, if you don't get the shot on your bull rush, it's less useful, because you're quite likely to pick up the bloodstones if you charge and then they go off
Edit: Lmao someone in chat mentioned this duo at 30:45 (it's Lightning Rod) and he said absolutely no, so I guess not
it's just not something you would go out of your way to get
He didn't need the Paddy in the end POGU 1HP 0DD DREAM
did they change the requirement for the Double Strike, when i checked the wiki the req is the Dash, Aid and the Special ?
How did he not know/think that getting the Poseidon attack would be a bad idea? I guess I wouldn't have known for sure if it would push outside of the cast radius either, but even if it didn't, the knockback is really annoying and the 30% damage is _WEAK!_
36:00 Ok I gotta ask this, because it's driving me nuts.
Is there some sort of AI manipulation or move he's doing that directs the Cerberus shots? Because whenever I rush over to that side, the dog dumps like 3 shots right on that spot, instead of just leaving it bare as in every Haelian run.
Had it happen when I started in the middle and when I was right there in that alcove from the start, so I have no fucking clue why he sometimes just decides to destroy me.
Same, it's usually safe, but it's a bit of a crapshoot.
It's the most consistent safe spot but is not 100% guaranteed
I'd say this, usually works but not always.
I noticed it and Ares cast were way better on Beo with cshot. Easier to control.
what about greater recall? you not like that one? i find it pretty useful..
Try a Talos fist + curse of drowning run soon :)
You should make some more videos about Hades.
Yeah I know it would be nice if there was more Hades content on this channel but you know, he has to talk to plants and lemons and piles of salt first and that takes up a lot of time
DELETED Lernie, lmao!
Wow the Hero fight
How are you collecting gems when you get the darkness after the boss fights?
There's a work order eventually that gives gems as boss rewards.
How do you get the 4th aspect varient? If the answer is to just keep playing dont answer XDD I've killed Hades twice
After youve reached Hades once, don't have to kill him, and have spent enough Titan Blood and a few other condiotions then unlock phrases get added to dialogue pools
For example, Guan Yu needs you to buy the fated list, and unlock at least 5 of the 12 starting alt aspects, then speak to Achilles
Arthur is reveal (just reveal dont have to unlock) Guan Yu, Spend 5 blood on swords, and talk to Nyx
I got Beowulf after I talked to chaos he mentions it
Never punished.
Give me a piece of advice please, how can I upgrade my companions? I gave Meg three ambrosia I guess, we've even had some quality time in Zags bed chambers, but still there is only one use.
Have you give ambrosia to the keepsake instead of meg?
Upgrade it in the keepsake display case
@@MrKen007007 no, but now I know, thanks!
How did he know he'd get a Zeus boon when he started without the Zeus keepsake?
He must have reset until he had a natural Zeus pop up in chamber 1. Either that or he was using a mod. But I don’t know if he used mods 3yrs ago.
THICC BOLTS DO WORK
There, i fixed your title.
Haelian has Twitter?
Regarding Rogue Legacy _"you start off super weak and there's a really steep learning curve, but the upgrades can let you get really really powerful" _*_hmm sounds familiar..._*
Beowulf is probably my favourite shield aspect😅😂😂😂😂especially with slicing flare. This one time I got slicing flare with mirage shot, and that slapped like hell. Does more damage than Ares' Aid actually, with cast boons ofcourse.
I don't know how I feel about any aspect of the shield past the chaos aspect... To me they all feel sluggish. Every one of them loses out on special being much useful. Beowulf just feels too slow for its dmg especially when compared to Arthur (which I love).
@Max Haines meant it as in both the Arthur sword and beowulf are very slow but hit harder.
@@bruhder5854 I do understand where you're coming from. Arthur tends to be my favourite sword too, but I recently beat Hades faster with Poseidon's sword. I think Beowulf shield works best with supplementary damage, like doom on the special. Beowulf, at least for me is a total cast build.
Do an intermediate guide please, bro. Love the content. Keep it up and you got this.
I used Zeus on Beowulf once and decided pretty quickly it was horrible.
Click bait!
blessed run though!
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