I recently did artemis cast with exit wounds + got lucky with stygian with 3 casts. I had like 13 casts loaded on Hades when I used special and gdamn it was nice seeing the damage
Honestly, I'd genuinely like to say that I think that Greater Recall almost carried this run. Not having to get into "danger zone" to pick up the Casts has been invaluable, and potentially saved a lot of HP in return, in many instances. (also, it really feels good that you don't have to think about collecting the Casts yourselves, especially when you miss your Casts, and the moment they hit the ground, they return to ya)
Yeah, got it in one run and it felt so good. But I'm a noob, so it's especially dangerous for me to get close to enemies. Don't know about competent players.
@@Tilmann5138 I mean, the more competent you are, the less it matters, but no matter how competent you are, if you get it, it's great. But when you ARE more competent, that just means that there's less reasons to chase after it specifically, and that it's just "nice" to get it by accident, like Haelian did here. I do sometimes chase after it in advance, not cause I need it, but because it feels nice to have. A tip: an easier way to acquire it is to equip the Lambent Plume when going into Asphodel, because in order to get the Legendaries from Hermes, you need either of the Cast enhancing boobs, Flurry Cast or Quick Reload if you have Infernal Soul, or Auto Reload if you have Stygian Soul, but there's another way, and it's to have Lambent Plume, Hermes' keepsake, instead, which means that you don't need those other boons, and that you can potentially get the Legendary Boon on the first Hermes you get, if you get lucky! And I did that few times, and got lucky, and it's especially good if you don't get lucky with getting that, nor the prerequisite boons for those Legendaries, which means you can still get it on the next Hermes nonetheless. And, ofc, once you get it, you get rid of Lambent Plume. Unless you wanna keep it, but no need tbh. It served it's purpose of getting the Legendary.
@@GrimmBones thanks for the advice, didn't know that about the interaction between the legendary and keepsake. However, I always go fo the Poseidon keepsake in Asphodel to have higher chances to get the duo boon og Artemis and Poseidon. Is that not optimal?
@@Tilmann5138 Well, it's totally fine if you're going for some Cast build, but it's not always necessary. Plus, there's a bunch of different Cast builds you can try out. You can try out the Lightning Phalanx build, the Dionysus Cast build with some specific weapons, etc. Most of the casts have interesting builds around them. But the Arty and Poseidon duo boon is neato when you can get it. You should try the Poseidon Cast, and then get Demeter eventually (she's unlocked after the first completed run, dunno how far you got), and get their duo boon. It can be pretty fun too.
You know what would really make this better? Stygian Soul, Fully Loaded, Chaos +1 Cast and Auto Reload. Lets you fit about 20 casts into Hades, then "dislodge" them all at once (assuming the exit wounds/stygian soul interaction works). Then you'll see the true power of Exit Wounds
It's wild to me that I may have found one of your more recent (I know it's over a year old) videos that I haven't watched yet. Going through the full Hades playlist of 112 videos and seeing red progress bars most of the way through is bonkers. For anyone saying "Haelian why don't you do this build on stream?!?!" It's been done before I promise you and it's in this playlist.
As others mentioned, it requires the Artemis Legendary + Extra Casts to be extra useful. Especially with PP which makes it more insane. I know you don't want to Pom PP, but the damage of Exir Wounds does scale with it
A large part of why exit wounds is great is that you can use it as an additional source of damage on top of your normal source of damage. Pomming exit wounds and using only it for damage kind of misses the point on why it's so strong, namely that it can double the amount of damage you get out of casting, which means all casts boons are amplified. If you're incenitivized to keep getting your casts back by pulling them out, you can multiply all your cast boons too, especially if you use Hermes boons to speed up the cast/pull cycle.
Exit Wounds is really strong, on most casts it's like worth 2-4 poms on common rarity, with the benefit of not incrementing diminishing returns, and offering a diversifier for pom scaling. Imagine the damage if that those poms had been split between Exit Wounds and the starting artemis cast. also, for most sources of damage 10 per pom level is really competitive. especially above level 3-5.
Still yet to see Exit wounds after a combined on two different games of about 60 runs. This morning around 3am, i decided to hook up my controller too my PC. Long behold i made it to Hades and won for the 1st time. 6:30am now, still awake, shit to do today.
@@darkanayer5867 sure thing. They talked how support fire really appeals to their audience and hades' players in general, because it has an awesome visual effect. Contrast it to some of poseidon's booms which add a fuckton of damage, but has no satisfying delicious and crunchy visual effect alongside it
I love how troll this is. So, I just did a run with Poseidon sword and I used Zues keepsake to get cast plus natural Athena dash and Special plus more Zues (jolted and Call) showing up causing me to doubt my commitment to Artemis.... So I got a natural Arty epic PP and then much later Attack (only after carrying Artemis keepsake through 2 biomes)... But I just kept Arty keepsake on for the rest of the game because why not try to get (epic) Exit Wounds and Legendary in Styx? This def wasn't a speed run (because it took so long to get all the pieces) but it was fun... epic Hunter's Mark and Arty-Athena Duo in Elesium for sure making it worth the wait on all the crits.
Pretty much every controller button is mapped to some action in combat - how would you set up controls on a mobile device that would still be fluid? (Supergiant did port Transistor to mobile, but I feel the Turn() system is what really allowed mobile, since it limited how many real-time reactions were necessary.)
@@chrayez idk how but dead cells did it really well. Dead cells and hades are very similar in combat design as well (both being fast paced, skill based). I'm sure they can work something out.
Does he use mods to get the first boon as something he wants? Seems too good to be able to start with Artemis without having to use their keepsake, and then you can get another one in asphodel
Obviously not. He’s a streamer, playing hours a day, obviously you upload the best videos, plus every attempt in Hades is seeded, meaning once you complete/fail a run, the next boon is set, so if you start with Artemis keepsake, it will always have the same options, or if no keepsake, it will always offer the same god or hammer. So you can prepare a run just by quickly jumping in, checking what you get, and then planning a build
Yes as the cast doesn’t dislodge when you regenerate your cast, so if you have Chaos + 1 cast and Chiron cast, plus Hermes auto reload boons you could effectively stack 10+ casts
How the fuck is this even possible, you have everything maxed out and still havent gotten persephone back to the city?? I got her back to the throne after just 10 wins at hades or something.
Why wouldn't they be okay, it's basically extra cast damage for main target... except with even higher base. The only problem is triggering them, and Poseidon and maybe Hera are good for that. As for its scaling, well... Nothing scales well at level 15, so... :P Aaaand as for dealing less damage later on, you've been losing High Confidence as well as Family Favourite. Aaaaaand finally... Is it just me or Exit Wounds appear to have really small AOE? Pretty sure I've seen you splitting stones between rats, but then they both get nuked for equal 1000+ damage once you special...
I recently did artemis cast with exit wounds + got lucky with stygian with 3 casts. I had like 13 casts loaded on Hades when I used special and gdamn it was nice seeing the damage
Honestly, I'd genuinely like to say that I think that Greater Recall almost carried this run.
Not having to get into "danger zone" to pick up the Casts has been invaluable, and potentially saved a lot of HP in return, in many instances. (also, it really feels good that you don't have to think about collecting the Casts yourselves, especially when you miss your Casts, and the moment they hit the ground, they return to ya)
Yeah, got it in one run and it felt so good. But I'm a noob, so it's especially dangerous for me to get close to enemies. Don't know about competent players.
@@Tilmann5138 I mean, the more competent you are, the less it matters, but no matter how competent you are, if you get it, it's great. But when you ARE more competent, that just means that there's less reasons to chase after it specifically, and that it's just "nice" to get it by accident, like Haelian did here. I do sometimes chase after it in advance, not cause I need it, but because it feels nice to have.
A tip: an easier way to acquire it is to equip the Lambent Plume when going into Asphodel, because in order to get the Legendaries from Hermes, you need either of the Cast enhancing boobs, Flurry Cast or Quick Reload if you have Infernal Soul, or Auto Reload if you have Stygian Soul, but there's another way, and it's to have Lambent Plume, Hermes' keepsake, instead, which means that you don't need those other boons, and that you can potentially get the Legendary Boon on the first Hermes you get, if you get lucky! And I did that few times, and got lucky, and it's especially good if you don't get lucky with getting that, nor the prerequisite boons for those Legendaries, which means you can still get it on the next Hermes nonetheless.
And, ofc, once you get it, you get rid of Lambent Plume. Unless you wanna keep it, but no need tbh. It served it's purpose of getting the Legendary.
@@GrimmBones thanks for the advice, didn't know that about the interaction between the legendary and keepsake. However, I always go fo the Poseidon keepsake in Asphodel to have higher chances to get the duo boon og Artemis and Poseidon. Is that not optimal?
@@Tilmann5138 Well, it's totally fine if you're going for some Cast build, but it's not always necessary.
Plus, there's a bunch of different Cast builds you can try out.
You can try out the Lightning Phalanx build, the Dionysus Cast build with some specific weapons, etc.
Most of the casts have interesting builds around them.
But the Arty and Poseidon duo boon is neato when you can get it.
You should try the Poseidon Cast, and then get Demeter eventually (she's unlocked after the first completed run, dunno how far you got), and get their duo boon. It can be pretty fun too.
"That's more pixels than I have" that was such a dad thing to say and we love you for it
I'd like to see him do this with PP, to try to get the highest amount of Critical Strike Chance in the game.
You know what would really make this better? Stygian Soul, Fully Loaded, Chaos +1 Cast and Auto Reload. Lets you fit about 20 casts into Hades, then "dislodge" them all at once (assuming the exit wounds/stygian soul interaction works). Then you'll see the true power of Exit Wounds
should've gambled for more casts considering that exit wounds basically scales with the number of casts you have
It's wild to me that I may have found one of your more recent (I know it's over a year old) videos that I haven't watched yet. Going through the full Hades playlist of 112 videos and seeing red progress bars most of the way through is bonkers.
For anyone saying "Haelian why don't you do this build on stream?!?!" It's been done before I promise you and it's in this playlist.
As others mentioned, it requires the Artemis Legendary + Extra Casts to be extra useful. Especially with PP which makes it more insane. I know you don't want to Pom PP, but the damage of Exir Wounds does scale with it
A large part of why exit wounds is great is that you can use it as an additional source of damage on top of your normal source of damage. Pomming exit wounds and using only it for damage kind of misses the point on why it's so strong, namely that it can double the amount of damage you get out of casting, which means all casts boons are amplified. If you're incenitivized to keep getting your casts back by pulling them out, you can multiply all your cast boons too, especially if you use Hermes boons to speed up the cast/pull cycle.
It’s a meme run dude
It’s like a cake with only icing, lol
Hot take: exit wounds is a more inconvenient version of a dire misfortune doom build
I’m late as hell to this but yes
Exit Wounds is really strong, on most casts it's like worth 2-4 poms on common rarity, with the benefit of not incrementing diminishing returns, and offering a diversifier for pom scaling.
Imagine the damage if that those poms had been split between Exit Wounds and the starting artemis cast.
also, for most sources of damage 10 per pom level is really competitive. especially above level 3-5.
Still yet to see Exit wounds after a combined on two different games of about 60 runs. This morning around 3am, i decided to hook up my controller too my PC. Long behold i made it to Hades and won for the 1st time. 6:30am now, still awake, shit to do today.
Tried a Exit Wounds run recently on EM4 and was at Elysium in sub 5 mins. It can be a fast EM2 run if you get epic Exit Wounds.
I dunno why but the more pixels joke got me good and made me laugh way harder than it honestly should have.
I just discovered this tactic with Poseidon sword special and spam the cast and dislodge damage.
This honestly seems like a kick ass strategy, if you have a cast.
What about support fire next? With either rama(for the special hitting a lot of times) or rail ( fast attack speed).
and a pp run for max crit chance after that
@@Azg4l0R1 yes, thats another thing i was thinking
So funny to read that after hearing Haelian on Hidden Aspects podcast 🤣
@@malenkas3 may i ask why? I havent been able to listen to it, nor i think i will be able to in the foreseeable future
@@darkanayer5867 sure thing. They talked how support fire really appeals to their audience and hades' players in general, because it has an awesome visual effect. Contrast it to some of poseidon's booms which add a fuckton of damage, but has no satisfying delicious and crunchy visual effect alongside it
Usually I immediately go and try a build after watching your videos... this is too damn stressful
24th man these videos are so fun to watch and study with, keep up the great work Chboi
I'm high-key disappointed I wasn't watching this stream. Chat was having a rad conversation during Styx lol
Exit wounds carried me on my EM4 10 heat sword run where I also got fully loaded for the first time. It was super fun.
Pulling out has never been so fun.
that was pretty good but what if you had exit wounds?
You should try it out with stygian + pray for chaos and hermes reload + artemis legendary, you can hit like 12x
This run made me feel like my early runs :) clutch hades win
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"Aw man a pp would be so nice right now"
Haelian's squeals and cries are a lot funnier at 2x speed! :D
Wait you're telling me electric shot was able to activate the exit wounds when going from one enemy to another?
So does that mean it could potentially work with athena Zeus duo? Meaning it could potentially be used for a deadly reversal combo?
No, he said imagine if it did
@@derandi2324 deadly reversal is Athena+Artemis though
I think I never heard this part of third phase theme before
10 damage every level? Guess the dev should update the scaling for the pom-able boons, tho...
Anyway, that was a clutch on Hades's fight, dad :D
37:52 the FLINCH
ooOoooOAAAaaOooOhHhhhH
Skip to a random moment, just to read "My hysteria wears off after like 8 orgasms". Oh chat, you never disappoint.
23:42 So in your pursuit for power, you have forgotten the true power of family, making your quest meaningless, huh?
Not sure if I saw right but i think the exit wound hit with every spark with zeus cast
I love how troll this is.
So, I just did a run with Poseidon sword and I used Zues keepsake to get cast plus natural Athena dash and Special plus more Zues (jolted and Call) showing up causing me to doubt my commitment to Artemis.... So I got a natural Arty epic PP and then much later Attack (only after carrying Artemis keepsake through 2 biomes)... But I just kept Arty keepsake on for the rest of the game because why not try to get (epic) Exit Wounds and Legendary in Styx? This def wasn't a speed run (because it took so long to get all the pieces) but it was fun... epic Hunter's Mark and Arty-Athena Duo in Elesium for sure making it worth the wait on all the crits.
23:14 elite moneyyu
weird how haelian supposedly loves gambling but scared of taking chaos boons :P
Crazy run. I would have been toast. lol
Does Exit Wounds even scale with any bonuses other than global damage?
Since this game is available on switch, would love to see it come to android/ios as a premium game.
Pretty much every controller button is mapped to some action in combat - how would you set up controls on a mobile device that would still be fluid?
(Supergiant did port Transistor to mobile, but I feel the Turn() system is what really allowed mobile, since it limited how many real-time reactions were necessary.)
@@chrayez idk how but dead cells did it really well. Dead cells and hades are very similar in combat design as well (both being fast paced, skill based). I'm sure they can work something out.
As well as making legendary boons pommable, how about duo boons? Imagine being able to pom sweet nectar.
Yo Haelian did this run to spite twitch chat
Does rush delivery affect exit wounds?
I think so
not sure if mirage cast stacks with exit wounds. Cuz double cast?
Do you think it'd be more dmg then a cast boon if he went with shackles?
Pullout game strong
I had this once with 8 casts. I have no idea why you skipped chaos extra casts are the shit
no rolls for chaos, he could have get the middle finger
@@thesenate8268 'he could have gotten'
get fucking *EXITED*
What does palmable (or something like that) mean? And why is it relevant to boons?
Pommable* meaning they are capable of using Poms of Power on. Some boons cannot be Pom'd.
@@Haelian thanks 👊🏻
if u have mirage shot, will exit wound exit twice for each cast?
Nah still counts as one lodge.
Does exit wound have a chance to critical?
Does he use mods to get the first boon as something he wants? Seems too good to be able to start with Artemis without having to use their keepsake, and then you can get another one in asphodel
Obviously not. He’s a streamer, playing hours a day, obviously you upload the best videos, plus every attempt in Hades is seeded, meaning once you complete/fail a run, the next boon is set, so if you start with Artemis keepsake, it will always have the same options, or if no keepsake, it will always offer the same god or hammer. So you can prepare a run just by quickly jumping in, checking what you get, and then planning a build
How was the cast doing so much damage at the start?
Posidon aspect gives your cast like 50% bonus damage
Does exit wounds work when you have the time regeneration?
Yes as the cast doesn’t dislodge when you regenerate your cast, so if you have Chaos + 1 cast and Chiron cast, plus Hermes auto reload boons you could effectively stack 10+ casts
where can I sign up to worship at the Church of Exit Wounds?
At www.dampdad.com
Max PP run when?
How the fuck is this even possible, you have everything maxed out and still havent gotten persephone back to the city?? I got her back to the throne after just 10 wins at hades or something.
I thought support fire started at 50 dmg
Wrong i was
That would be broken.
Why wouldn't they be okay, it's basically extra cast damage for main target... except with even higher base. The only problem is triggering them, and Poseidon and maybe Hera are good for that.
As for its scaling, well... Nothing scales well at level 15, so... :P
Aaaand as for dealing less damage later on, you've been losing High Confidence as well as Family Favourite.
Aaaaaand finally... Is it just me or Exit Wounds appear to have really small AOE? Pretty sure I've seen you splitting stones between rats, but then they both get nuked for equal 1000+ damage once you special...
chboi
5th :) keep up the vids man
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Lately ur runs felt sadomasochistic, I don't get joy from it, rather a bit frustration, but you do you 👍🏻
Deez nuts
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