Since you were discussing it, meme run proposal: get as much stuff that slows enemies down as possible? Could be pretty hilarious, with dad showing his age not being able to run at all anymore lol
@@AndersonWave17 There are hammers that can slow, like targeting system on rail, or rending claws on fists. Arthur aspects special also has a good slow effect. Numbing sensation can be pommed btw. Killing freeze for extra slow with chill is good. And we have to remember to take abyssal blood instead of boiling blood. I've pitched Haelian on this run before in chat and then ended up doing it myself a few days later. It honestly didn't get nearly as slow as I'd hoped
@@matthewmason660 yeah it should affect bosses more. And ramp harder on enemies. 80 percent should be near stand still as well as projectiles. Projectiles should just be included in all slowing effects
Me after reading the title: "Must have gotten an early Exclusive Access." Me after finishing the video: "...or you know getting blessed by RNGesus themselves works too I guess."
I agree I think Pom Blossom is kind of a trap relic, for a while I would just keep it on from go and let the gods do what they wanted with me, but I think because of the diminishing returns on poms it doesn't do a whole lot if you keep it on for all four biomes. Once I started going back to using god keepsakes to craft my runs more my win percentage went way up. Blossom probably has a high pick % because it reads really well, but I'd be curious about its conversion rate is if carried for more than 1 biome.
I like to pick it up going into styx if I don’t have something specific I want. Idk if it’s that good but you can get at least 5 poms off it, which feels good lol
When I was going for win streaks I took Pom Blossom so I didn't get bored with the same gods every run. You could get one or two poms on your core stuff pretty easy by Elisium, then I switch to a defensive keepsake.
8:11 They really need to reword Sweet Surrender. It reads as if it reduces the enemies defenses but in fact just gives you an additive 10% (for the normal rarity) damage against weakened enemies. It's misleading and, as you so aptly put, pretty bad compared to a lot of other options. Edit to say: 13:13 Holy balls...
Wait Sweet Surrender isn't a 10% multiplier, it's just 10% additive? I assumed damage taken was going to be multiplicative this whole time. I also assumed Urge to Kill or whatever the attack, special, cast Ares boon is was a multiplier too and Haelian at least says that's additive as well. Definitely need some clarity updates
@@RandomMagus Yup, I don't blame you for thinking that. I thought it too until I finally looked it up. Urge to Kill is at least better because it doesn't require the enemy to be weakened.
For the amount of Duos you got the damage is pretty meh. Also I'm waiting for that Chamber 4 Exclusive Access run so that chat can drool over all the purples, greens and oranges that you'll encounter throughout the run.
depends on how you see it. since crit in hades deal 200% extra damage, if you take the average he'd get about a 6% increase. though it could also proc 20 times in a row, or not at all, so having something more consistent is sure to give you the benefit you want. though it depends on playstyle on wether or not you'd want pp there. there is also the fact that taking the special there increases his chance of getting other boons from gods, since they're more likely to give you a new one, instead of a replacement.
was just watching the old lucy poison vid when triple shot still op then this video happen.... how...? am I a clairvoyant?? or can Haelian read my mind?? what is this!?????
So Im not too familiar with strats or anything yet but for a no hit run is it possible to combine a hoarding slash run with a backslash build? If so I feel like combining it with butterfly is pretty od
For this game, it's too risky. Getting back stabs consistently is not feasible unless you're using spear which naturally does backstab with special on the recall. No hit run is mostly via Athena for deflect and extra dashes via hermes.
@@bruhder5854 Idk how to feel with lord Sasuke himself telling me something is “too risky” but sure 2020 has been weirder. Thanks senpai for the knowledge :)
I've realized why I don't like Lucifer. I play on Switch, so I don't get to keep shooting while dashing, with the default controls. I'd have to really mess with controls and learn something that'll probably make my thumbs cramp.
It depends. Aphro is a better strict dps increase but it can be hard to keep enemies weakened + more stacks (probably not that hard on Lucifer, harder on like chaos shield), while ares is only slightly weaker and requires no maintenance, so I think the ares one is better in general.
Aspect of lucifier. It's a hidden aspect so jankiness is present on it as always. It changes up your attack into a beam and special into spheres that radiates dmg slowly or do burst dmg by exploding.
The fact that Splitting Headache isn't the Athena/Zeus duo is SUCH a missed opportunity
This joke is gold lmao good one
@@synnova32 yeah
For sure
That's big brain levels of comedy
I don't get it, please explaine i need to know!!!
Since you were discussing it, meme run proposal: get as much stuff that slows enemies down as possible? Could be pretty hilarious, with dad showing his age not being able to run at all anymore lol
Is there anything more than the Dionysus and Dmemeter boons that do that ?
@@AndersonWave17 There are hammers that can slow, like targeting system on rail, or rending claws on fists. Arthur aspects special also has a good slow effect. Numbing sensation can be pommed btw. Killing freeze for extra slow with chill is good. And we have to remember to take abyssal blood instead of boiling blood. I've pitched Haelian on this run before in chat and then ended up doing it myself a few days later. It honestly didn't get nearly as slow as I'd hoped
@@matthewmason660 yeah it should affect bosses more. And ramp harder on enemies. 80 percent should be near stand still as well as projectiles. Projectiles should just be included in all slowing effects
@@AndersonWave17 If it's Demeter and Dio as main, that means you will literally chill with Hades.
I haven't made it all the way to hades so I don't want to watch the full videos:(
Me after reading the title: "Must have gotten an early Exclusive Access."
Me after finishing the video: "...or you know getting blessed by RNGesus themselves works too I guess."
God blessed this run. rigged out the wazzu
"Duo Digger" you can't really find a more fitting achievement
the thumbnail is gold lol
Daddy got damp lol
HaelGasm
The problem with Triple Laser is how wide it is,needs to be a slightly smaller cone to actually hit more than 1 enemy directly ahead of you
I agree I think Pom Blossom is kind of a trap relic, for a while I would just keep it on from go and let the gods do what they wanted with me, but I think because of the diminishing returns on poms it doesn't do a whole lot if you keep it on for all four biomes. Once I started going back to using god keepsakes to craft my runs more my win percentage went way up. Blossom probably has a high pick % because it reads really well, but I'd be curious about its conversion rate is if carried for more than 1 biome.
I like to pick it up going into styx if I don’t have something specific I want. Idk if it’s that good but you can get at least 5 poms off it, which feels good lol
I put it on in Styx because I don’t play with the time limit .
When I was going for win streaks I took Pom Blossom so I didn't get bored with the same gods every run. You could get one or two poms on your core stuff pretty easy by Elisium, then I switch to a defensive keepsake.
Dodging attacks: exist
Haelian: and i took that personally
playing with Lucifer gun reminds me of playing as the Team Fortress 2 Demoman. The gun's special is similar to the Demoman's stickybomb
I like starting with mom’s pom because it basically gives you two upgrades to your starting boon
Me too
Persephs keepsake and what else?
When Hades fires off his beams in all directions you can stand inside his hitbox and not take dmg while still dealing some
Not on Extreme Measures 4 you can't
Damn this was a REALLY weird run, like, so many things going on
Don’t know if you read/take ideas from yt comments, but I’d totally watch a fresh account series where you just start from scratch
Recently found your channel and I see I've been playing Hades wrong. (Sits down and takes out notebook...)
13:15 ah of course. Aphrodite is of course the one that will have a 4 way.
daddy had a lil too much wine kreygasm
8:11 They really need to reword Sweet Surrender. It reads as if it reduces the enemies defenses but in fact just gives you an additive 10% (for the normal rarity) damage against weakened enemies. It's misleading and, as you so aptly put, pretty bad compared to a lot of other options.
Edit to say: 13:13 Holy balls...
Wait Sweet Surrender isn't a 10% multiplier, it's just 10% additive? I assumed damage taken was going to be multiplicative this whole time. I also assumed Urge to Kill or whatever the attack, special, cast Ares boon is was a multiplier too and Haelian at least says that's additive as well. Definitely need some clarity updates
@@RandomMagus Yup, I don't blame you for thinking that. I thought it too until I finally looked it up. Urge to Kill is at least better because it doesn't require the enemy to be weakened.
Curse of nausea must be thing first duo I go for when doing a hangover run
"Six duos and a legendary" sounds like an ensemble movie
Haelian’s 13
Oooooohhh my man drinkin the pabst while going for dionysis build! Nice!🍺
Thumbnail is OMEGAPOG
For the amount of Duos you got the damage is pretty meh.
Also I'm waiting for that Chamber 4 Exclusive Access run so that chat can drool over all the purples, greens and oranges that you'll encounter throughout the run.
Me : set high quality in settings
The video : *is now on lower quality*
35:07 read chat, they predicted Hades 2
The boons in this run were paid actors
12:48 seemed like a no-brainer for him, but isn't PP on all the laser ticks and hangover procs just overall a pretty sizable damage increase?
depends on how you see it. since crit in hades deal 200% extra damage, if you take the average he'd get about a 6% increase. though it could also proc 20 times in a row, or not at all, so having something more consistent is sure to give you the benefit you want. though it depends on playstyle on wether or not you'd want pp there.
there is also the fact that taking the special there increases his chance of getting other boons from gods, since they're more likely to give you a new one, instead of a replacement.
I don't know why but everytime i pick dio i just get bombarded with duo boon
I hope we see some hades again once the new update/mod thing comes out
I can’t seem to get good runs with the Lucifer Rail
Good old Haelian. Runs a Hangover build. Gets only 1 pom toward Hangover damage.
was just watching the old lucy poison vid when triple shot still op then this video happen....
how...? am I a clairvoyant?? or can Haelian read my mind?? what is this!?????
Am I crazy? How can you tell that you didn’t get a Duo boon before even accepting the Artemis boon? 14:35
The animation for picking up the boon is different if there's a duo or legendary
laser go brrrr
Does lucifer have rocket bomb?
I thought for the longest time that the hidden aspect of the rail gun was gonna be Aspect Of Chris Kyle lolololol
I assumed it would be a joke too, like aspect of Doomguy or something, but Supergiant is too legit
So Im not too familiar with strats or anything yet but for a no hit run is it possible to combine a hoarding slash run with a backslash build? If so I feel like combining it with butterfly is pretty od
For this game, it's too risky. Getting back stabs consistently is not feasible unless you're using spear which naturally does backstab with special on the recall.
No hit run is mostly via Athena for deflect and extra dashes via hermes.
@@bruhder5854 Idk how to feel with lord Sasuke himself telling me something is “too risky” but sure 2020 has been weirder. Thanks senpai for the knowledge :)
Woah, I just saw the stream notification a while back, haelian is fast
I hate that skelly takes friendly fire. He'd be pretty good if he didn't.
13:13 LOL! I'll have some more duo boons, please! ;)
damn, so many duos and build still doesn't have too much damage ))
Aphro special rather than dash would have helped. 115% bonus damage on the Lucifer special explosion is fat damage
you missed the best poison duo in my opinion Curse of Nausea
My favourite boys, Haelian and Dionysus getting on fabulously.
Great run 😁
DADDY NO
(More like daddy yes)
Also holy crap it was duo central. Green. Every green.
People bring Pom Blossom because of sentimental reasons... If they are nerfing it because of usage, that's pretty silly.
This dude plays on 20 heat better than I can on 10.... X3
I wonder what a fresh file speedrun to beat EM4 would look like. Probably too long to be worth doing?
Unlocking em4 means getting the credits and more, that would be a loooong run
@@Haelian Ah, I didn't realize the credits were a requirement for that
6 duos and a legendary....there's a sitcom in there somewhere.....
Sad Ares noises
Son of the Morning build !
WATCH 13:12 OUT OF CONTEXT
Just realized you could use skelly on runs to test dps
why do you hate hydralite gold so much? I don't see how it's worse than one more death defy when you're already below half hp
Does he have lasting consequences?
@@orionar2461 Not in this run, no
Anyone else notice how he inexplicably got four cast stones during the Hades fight?
he had three...
I've realized why I don't like Lucifer. I play on Switch, so I don't get to keep shooting while dashing, with the default controls. I'd have to really mess with controls and learn something that'll probably make my thumbs cramp.
Just swap cast with special and you are good to go, it takes a bit to get used to it but you will be better off in the long run.
Hi forgetful_x from 35:00
I wonder is ares is better than Artemis for his dio Duo boon
It depends. Aphro is a better strict dps increase but it can be hard to keep enemies weakened + more stacks (probably not that hard on Lucifer, harder on like chaos shield), while ares is only slightly weaker and requires no maintenance, so I think the ares one is better in general.
In most scenarios, yes, very much so.
pew pews
Lets see how i'll never be this good jajsjaja nice rng
Wow
1 minute gang
First!
What aspect are you using on the gun?
More importantly, what does that aspect do?
Aspect of lucifier. It's a hidden aspect so jankiness is present on it as always. It changes up your attack into a beam and special into spheres that radiates dmg slowly or do burst dmg by exploding.
@@bruhder5854
How do you unlock hidden aspects? I just started the game myself and this is the only rail aspect I've seen that interests me
@@disgruntledcommenter idk the specifics but it can be googled. The true answer is to play the game a whole lot and you'll unlock it naturally.